EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

09.26.07

Even Microsoft Might Not Obey That Broken OOXML

Posted in Ecma, Formats, ISO, Interoperability, Microsoft, Office Suites, Open XML, OpenDocument, Standard at 7:31 am by Roy Schestowitz

“Implementing OOXML, let alone all of the undocumented bits, is an impossible task.”What would be the point of establishing a comprehensive set of specifications and then engaging in corrupt activities if what you lobby for is not even your target? It surely begins to seem like OOXML is just a scarecrow that permits Microsoft to crow about “openness” and standardisation.

As various articles pointed out before, OOXML might be implemented by no-one. It does not seem like Microsoft will avoid subverting OOXML in its published form. It might actually apply for and add its own little ‘extensions’, making the real OOXML a moving target. It has already been pointed out that Microsoft Office 2007 does not implement OOXML, but only a derivative thereof. And here’s the new nugget of information, which comes right out of the horse’s mouth:

Now consider this from Brian Jones, a Microsoft manager who has worked on OOXML for six years. In July, Jones was asked on his blog whether Microsoft would actually commit to conform to an officially standardised OOXML. His response:

“It’s hard for Microsoft to commit to what comes out of Ecma [the European standards group that has already OK’d OOXML] in the coming years, because we don’t know what direction they will take the formats. We’ll of course stay active and propose changes based on where we want to go with Office 14. At the end of the day, though, the other Ecma members could decide to take the spec in a completely different direction. … Since it’s not guaranteed, it would be hard for us to make any sort of official statement.”

Now that’s cynical. After all this work to make OOXML a formal, independent standard — a standard created and promoted by Microsoft, remember — Microsoft won’t agree to follow it.

This is something for everyone — including Novell — to consider. Implementing OOXML, let alone all of the undocumented bits, is an impossible task. Even if this goal was ever achieved, it would most likely be pointless. Microsoft will have moved somewhere else by then, so there will be no cross-application compatibility.

As frustrating as the OOXML fiasco may be, Microsoft has similar plans when it comes to squashing PDF. We mentioned the XPS plan/plot/scheme before. It is now back to some headlines.

This working draft 1.0.1 “XML Paper Specification” submitted to Ecma TC46 by Microsoft in September 2007 is available in PDF format and XPS format.

Isn’t it ironic that PDF format is used to contain the specification of something which strives to have it destroyed? Either way, this brings back memories of the ISO, which sort of rejected votes and comments unless they were embedded in proprietary Microsoft Office formats.

In other news, OpenDocument-formatted files can now be displayed seamlessly in Mozilla Firefox. To some people, such integration was desirable.

If you are running OpenOffice.org and Firefox at the same time you can view OpenDocument and other OpenOffice.org supported file formats using the provided Mozilla plug-in.

Related articles:

Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • StumbleUpon
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Propeller
  • Slashdot
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Webnews
  • YahooMyWeb

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channel. To use your own IRC client, join channel #boycottnovell in FreeNode.

Pages that cross-reference this one

A Single Comment

  1. Zaine Ridling said,

    September 26, 2007 at 9:51 pm

    Gravatar

    Microsoft has also gone through some incredible — and sadly useless — gymnastics to create sites and “projects” that supposedly implement MS-OOXML “solutions.” Of course, no one has yet to actually use them, and to date, when you do a google ODF vs. MS-OOXML document count online, ODF is killing MS-OOXML even nine months later.

    September has not been kind to Microsoft. Let’s hope every month is the same!

What Else is New


  1. Eye on Microsoft: Signs of Game Over

    The press seems pessimistic about Microsoft, which is increasingly seen as unable to evolve and innovate; Microsoft's security problems (and security PR) persist in a major way



  2. Windows 'Battery Killer' (Vista 7) Also Has USB Data Transfer Issues and Stability Problems, Does Not Sell Well

    Vista 7 is plagued by serious bugs and new patches from Microsoft are said to be making things even worse; Microsoft is still unable to formulate a response to the new problems and Vista 7 sales continue to disappoint, so more vapourware and fake "leaks" are being used instead



  3. Norwegian Agency for Public Management and eGovernment Slams Microsoft OOXML

    The authorities in Norway justify the country's decision to reject Microsoft's standards-hostile ploy



  4. Steve Ballmer Visits Obama Once Again as His Fight Against Google Continues

    Updates on the competition between Microsoft and Google -- a rivalry that takes political form



  5. Microsoft's Hostile Takeover of the Healthcare System

    Microsoft wants to make medical records and management of patients a lot more dependent on Windows and its own private servers



  6. More Mono and Patent Poison from Novell

    “Pinta” comes from Novell staff and software patents tax (on SLE*) comes from Microsoft in the form of vouchers



  7. Patents Roundup: EFF Defends VoIP; Google, Apple, and Black Duck Stifle Progress; Microsoft Joins RPX

    A quick look at some patent news from the past week, ranging from defence to offence



  8. United Nations and World Bank Help Bill Gates and Microsoft Colonise Africa

    Microsoft's and Gates' incursions in Africa are backed by self-serving Western agenda of patents and proprietary software



  9. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 8th, 2010

    IRC Log for February 8th, 2010



  10. Links 8/2/2010: Linux 2.6.33 RC7 and Parsix GNU/Linux 3.0r2 Released

    Links for the day



  11. Xbox 360 Still Under Many Lawsuits

    Lawsuits from many fronts add to the trouble that Microsoft's Xbox 360 already faces



  12. Facebook and Microsoft Revisited; New Examples of Microsoft Entryism

    A look at Facebook's relationship with Microsoft in 2010; Microsoft employees have an effect in competitors of Microsoft, so this issue is addressed too



  13. Microsoft Still Exploits the Taxpayers-Funded NASA to Spread Silver Lie and Close Down Research

    Microsoft-imposed corruption of NASA's obligation to the public carries on as it strives to capture academia too



  14. Microsoft 'Cloud' Falls Offline for a Quarter of a Day, Zune 'Cloud' Deletes Music, Microsoft Shop Also Kaput

    Microsoft continues to give online operations and online storage a bad name because of its sheer incompetence



  15. Ubuntu Perspectives: Signs of Change

    Analysis of Canonical's latest moves, which are being defended by some and severely criticised by others



  16. Apple's Newton Executive Negative About Apple's Latest Attempts at a Shinier Newton

    Apple's iPad still faces sometimes-overwhelming criticism, even from the company's own supporters and existing/former staff



  17. Microsoft Loses Another Vice President, Management Vacuum Alarms the Press

    Another Microsoft Vice President has just left Microsoft, joining the ranks of many more



  18. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 7th, 2010

    IRC Log for February 7th, 2010



  19. Links 07/2/2010: Linux Mint 8 KDE, Linus on Nexus One

    Links for the day



  20. Patents Roundup: Extortion, Protection Rackets, Patent Trolling, and Small Victory for Mozilla

    Johnson and Johnson's multi-billion-dollar patent fine, patents' harms to real science and life, patent trolls thrive, and Mozilla's opposition to patent-encumbered codecs gradually pays off



  21. The Microsoft Apologists and Boosters Really, Really Like Novell!

    A complete list of news articles about Moonlight 3.0 preview shows that its biggest fans are Microsoft fans



  22. iPad is Like Zune

    iPad -- like Zune -- might not reach the European Union (EU), possibly due to lukewarm reception and lack of appeal, not trademarks



  23. Microsoft Shows Yet Again That It is Allergic to GNU/Linux

    Microsoft's hatred of GNU/Linux, as demonstrated in this weekend's news



  24. Michael Arrington a Hypocrite: Bribed by Microsoft Yet Fires Bribed Bloggers

    Another fine example of an influential blogger who sells out to Microsoft yet does not apply to himself the same standards that he applies to colleagues



  25. Microsoft Refuses to Comment About (Deny) the Sex Parties, Drug Use

    No denial from Microsoft in the face of very strong allegations



  26. Another Misdirected Response from the Government to the Company “Not Engineered for Security”

    Another terrible month for Microsoft insecurity and the government is still unable to respond sensibly to the threat



  27. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 6th, 2010

    IRC Log for February 6th, 2010



  28. Links 6/2/2010: GNOME Journal Released, ARM CEO Sees Bright Future

    Links for the day



  29. Novell Executives Still Cannot Write Blog Posts?

    New evidence of ghostwriters in Novell's own Web site



  30. Microsoft Wants More Licensing Instead of Windows Bans

    At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Microsoft super-lobbyist Craig Mundie requests new laws that complicate the Internet and ignore the real problem (Microsoft negligence)


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts