EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS
Boycott Novell

10.19.07

OOXML and ODF: Where Do We Go from Here with a Broken ISO?

Posted in Formats, Microsoft, Novell, Deception, Office Suites, Standard, OpenDocument, Open XML, Ecma, ISO at 9:17 am by Roy Schestowitz

As you stroll around various forums you’ll find that one thing is beginning to become very clear. ISO is broken and in order to repair the ISO, serious changes need to be made. The ISO is broken for two reasons:

  1. It seems to be biased in favour of a certain large company, as we showed many times in the past
  2. Its process is too open for benevolent intervention and therefore to manipulation as well

OpenISO was born some months ago in response to Microsoft’s manipulation in Switzerland. The OpenISO is not quite ready yet (the site lacks sufficient substance). However, we received some information from a reputable source which tells us that the ISO needs be overhauled. It’s matter of fixing a broken (existing) system or starting from scratch, which still seems like wishful thinking.

“The system assumes that all participants are gentlemen.”Ecma, by the way, is in a worse state 1, 2]. We ought to prepare ourselves for more pseudo standards coming from Ecma. Microsoft has them stacked up like cannon balls, for that whole ‘politically correct/suitable’ game. Increasingly, governments adopt stronger pro-open standards policies.

Novell loves moneyAccording to an unnamed source, the ISO’s rules are “based on the assumption that participants are acting in good faith. They are also biased towards making participation easy, in order to allow everyone affected by standards to have a voice in their creation.” How about cases where a company x (let us call it “Novell”) receives money from another company, y (for convenience, let us call it “Micro-Soft”) to support a standard which does not truly serve anyone? You get the picture.

Rob Weir made some similar observations some months ago. The system assumes that all participants are gentlemen. As someone who studies Microsoft’s behavior (far beyond standards in terms of scope), I am through being a gentleman in this game simply because thugs beat gentlemen as long as the broader (and broken) system prevails. It even boils down to economics and politics, which I try to avoid. These cannot be separated though.

What we are left with are at (least) three ways of fighting for standards and fair competition:

  1. Identify and make it the public’s common knowledge that Microsoft is gaming the system
  2. Promote open standards by word of mouth and by setting a good example
  3. Produce tools that facilitate and support truly open formats and standards

With regard to point (3), progress is being made. Yesterday I spotted the following neat tool which is Web-based.

The GooTrad (Beta) web application of the Traducindote project, is a OpenOffice Writer documents translator (OpenDocument format), which uses Google Translate.

Additionally, version 3.3 of Docvert was released some days ago.

Docvert takes word processor files (typically .doc) and converts them to OpenDocument and clean HTML.

[…]

It’s released under the GPL v3 so although it’s open source there’s no legal problems developing proprietary software ontop of it. The XML produced is easier to understand and more structured than the OOXML or .DOC formats.

Ensuring that OpenDocument prevails and spreads is ensuring the the market is fair, competitive, and in a healthy state that benefits the consumer. Anything else is likely to be greed-driven. Just ask Microsoft and it will admit this.

OOXML is a monopoly

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channel.

Pages that cross-reference this one

Listed from October 23rd 2007 onwards, pingbacks and trackbacks (external) are omitted

A Single Comment »

  1. Yuhong Bao said,

    October 19, 2007 at 9:29 pm

    I wonder what would happen if OOXML wins as the standard file format?

Leave a Comment

What Else is New


  1. How Novell and Microsoft Cooperate Behind the Scenes

    A detailed article showing how an actual voucher deal with Novell/Microsoft comes about



  2. Novell Keeps Losing Money, Revenue Declines

    Novell's report is finally out, so here is some preliminary analysis (before a more comprehensive one)



  3. Microsoft Layoffs Worse Than Initially Reported

    The Razorfish layoffs broader than reported weeks ago



  4. Novell Declines Sharply Ahead of the Report

    Novell's stock down for several days in a row before the quarterly report comes



  5. Novell/Microsoft Deceive About Moonlight, Generate Hype

    Analysis of the Moonlight hype around the Web (it's just a beta)



  6. Novell: Powered by Red Hat

    Mono promotion site used to run Fedora and may still be running it



  7. Patents Roundup: Microsoft Employs Patent Hawks, Google's Chrome Sued, Ambush Denounced and More

    Various bits from the news, with particular emphasis on those that affect Free software



  8. The Latest of 'Open' XML is Another Scam

    Ugly truths (and lies) about the latest OOXML marketing push



  9. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 3rd, 2008

    IRC Log for December 3rd, 2008



  10. Links 04/12/2008: GNU/Linux in China, ODF in Germany

    Links for the day



  11. News Warping and Microsoft

    Some new explanations of ways in which Microsoft is able to control media coverage



  12. Novell Down Sharply Ahead of Tomorrow's Results

    Novell (NOVL) slides and readers should be prepared for deception from Novell's PR



  13. US Army Becomes Zombies Army; London Hospitals Still Ill (Windows Viruses)

    Security issues that are staggering hit the Web, US military, hospitals



  14. Quick Mention: Novell is Helping Microsoft OOXML Again

    Microsoft's work with Novell bears fruit: ODF 'killer'



  15. “Twisted Ideological Crusade” and Other Excuses

    Known critic of Boycott Novell tries to justify choice of SUSE; GNU India responds to Boycott Novell protest



  16. Beware the Mono

    Another explanation of the Mono problem; Miguel de Icaza makes Windows software



  17. EU Commission re ACTA: STFU

    The European Commission comments about the ACTA whilst things continue to escalate



  18. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 2nd, 2008 - Part 2

    IRC Log for December 2nd, 2008 - Part 2



  19. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 2nd, 2008 - Part 1

    IRC Log for December 2nd, 2008 - Part 1



  20. Links 03/12/2008: GNU/Linux Called Better Than Vista; Nokia Linux Phones Rumoured

    Links for the day



  21. (Another) Microsoft-Commissioned 'Study' Inverses Truths

    Microsoft lies about gains in search, using Microsoft-commissioned pseudo-studies



  22. Microsoft's Own Servers Become Zombies, Spew Out SPAM

    Microsoft's search engine servers are reportedly being hijacked to send SPAM



  23. FOSDEM 2009: Sponsored by Microsoft Partner

    Novell is a prominent organiser/sponsor



  24. Patents Roundup: From Microsoft's Trolls to Obama Policies

    A summary of news about patents across the world (mostly software related)



  25. Links 01/12/2008: North South Wales for F/OSS or GNU/Linux, OpenMoko Expands

    Links for the day



  26. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 1st, 2008 - Part 3

    IRC Log for December 1st, 2008 - Part 3



  27. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 1st, 2008 - Part 2

    IRC Log for December 1st, 2008 - Part 2



  28. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 1st, 2008 - Part 1

    IRC Log for December 1st, 2008 - Part 1



  29. Exploring the BECTA-Microsoft Relationship

    Boycott Novell takes a look at who runs BECTA and how BECTA's judgment is made



  30. A Gradual Fall of W|Intel... Thanks to OLPC?

    Intel is confronted with a problem that was introduced inevitably, amid rise of the OLPC


An invade, divide, and conquer Grand Plan

Novell CEO Ron HovsepianHighlight: Novell was the first to acknowledge that Microsoft FUD tactics had substance. Novell then used anti-Linux FUD to market itself. Learn more

Xandros founderHighlight: Xandros let Microsoft make patent claims and brag about (paid-for) OOXML support. Learn more

Linspire CEO Kevin CarmonyHighlight: Linspire's CEO not only fell into Microsoft arms, but he also assisted the company's attack on GNU/Linux. Learn more

Hand with moneyHighlight: Microsoft craves pseudo (proprietary) standards and gets its way using proxies and influence which it buys. Learn more

Eric RaymondHighlight: The invasion into the open source world is intended to leave Linux companies neglected, due to financial incentives from Microsoft. Learn more

XenSource CEOAnalysis: Xen, an open source hypervisor, possibly fell victim to Microsoft's aggressive (and stealthy) acquisition-by-proxy strategy. Learn more

More analysis >>

Recent Posts