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12.23.07

Interesting Quotes from SUSE Forums

Posted in Microsoft, Novell, Opensuse, Samba, Ubuntu, Interoperability, Quote at 6:14 pm by Roy Schestowitz

A reader has informed us of some quotes of interest. These come from suseforums.net, which very recently suffered technical issues.

It is worth seeing how they try to spin the Samba deal in Novell’s favour, despite the fact that Groklaw, for example, used that deal to explain Novell’s stupidity.

Here’s a side topic:

I hope this is also a little step closer to loosening all those tightly held asscheecks on the matter of Novell (and others) working together with Microsoft to get better interoperability between Linux and MS product.

Here is the reasonable response:

It’s interesting that Samba never saw the need to sign a deal similar to the MS/Novell covenant, in order to get full protocol interoperability information. Not only that, no revenue is changing hands. All in all a good deal worked out by the PFIF legal team. Here’s a podcast by Jeremy Allison that explains the deal.

In another separate thread you’ll find more of these sour grape excuses, targeting Ubuntu, as usual.

Normally, we wouldn’t feel the need to post a forums announcement from another forum, but the actions of the Ubuntu Forums members it addresses hurt everyone in the Linux community, and are antithetical to the spirit of the global Linux community.

This seems very reasonable, but one might say that assigning liability to Ubuntu Forums is a bit unfair.

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3 Comments »

  1. Victor Soliz said,

    December 23, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Speaking of these things, This looks like an OpenSUSE developer spreading FUD against Kubuntu. For starters it is not true 3.5 will not be supported anymore, I am trying to research more about the “No LTS for Kubuntu before 2010″ one.

  2. Roy Schestowitz said,

    December 23, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    Yes, it’s incorrect. I see this guy in Digg sometimes.

    There were other recent incidents where Kubuntu/OpenSUSE arguments led to accusations about lies, e.g. his one.

    OpenSUSE is still popular among KDE users (SuSE’s KDE roots), so Kubuntu is seen as a threat.

  3. Roy Schestowitz said,

    December 24, 2007 at 8:39 pm

    As a little update, I’ve just found some information here

    Thoughts on the Kubuntu 8.04 - No longer an LTS

    There has been a lot of discussion in regards to what exactly going on with the next version of Kubuntu 8.04, the Hardy Heron. I am a little disappointed to find out the 8.04 will not be a long term release for Kubuntu due to the nature of KDE4 being released.

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