EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

07.27.08

Microsoft Hates Apache, Wanted to Sue It, Now Wants to Ruin It

Posted in FOSS, GNU/Linux, Microsoft, Patents, SCO, Security, Vista, Windows at 2:54 am by Roy Schestowitz

The EEE theory

Yesterday we presented various possible explanations for Microsoft's investment in its direct competitor, Apache. It would be unnatural to believe that a commercial entity did this for goodwill alone. There is surely something to be gained; an expectation, condition, an opportunity. It is important to understand motive.

As expected, the discussion about this subject resumes, most notably in Technocrat (Bruce Perens’ site). He has been pursuing this for quite some time as he hawked Apache. His immediate instinct was negative and he now shares the story about Microsoft planning to sue Apache. As a high-level official, he knew something confidential.

And then I got stuck with keeping the secret of Microsoft’s plans to bring suit against Open Source developers, for years. All of that time, I felt that I was being disloyal to my own community. This finally came out after I was long gone from HP.

Microsoft backed SCO’s lawsuit after releasing this information to HP.

For information about Microsoft’s connection with SCO, start here. More recent developments are covered in [1, 2, 3].

The incident that Perens refers to was properly documented by Joe Barr, who was never shy to expose Microsoft’s bad behaviour [1, 2, 3].

The memo — its full text is provided later in the story, along with HP’s response — briefly explains a patent cross-licensing deal between HP and Microsoft. By itself, that’s not a big deal, especially since it was sent two years ago. But the memo asserts that “Microsoft will soon be launching a patent-based legal offensive against Linux and other free software projects.” Leaders in the open source community have been warning of such attacks for some time. The memo reveals there may be very good reason for the worry.

That’s the same HP that now has some level of influence/control over GNOME, engages in collusion schemes with Microsoft, spreads Silverlight (i.e. poisons the open Web), promotes Microsoft Web services, and lobbies for Microsoft's OOXML, essentially intervening with a process it should stay out of.

Here comes the interesting part.

Yesterday it was argued by some people that Microsoft could or would ‘extend’ Apache to better suit Microsoft’s business goals. Here is one newer speculation.

Ladies & Gentlemen I give you Web 2.0, the new and improved thin client cum cloud computing model where all you need to do anything is a browser and a fat pipe.

And what do browsers send GET requests to?

Penny dropping yet?

So Microsoft 7 ships with what used to be once the Berkeley TCP/IP stack for network communications and with what used to be once the Apache web server for Web 2.0, in EXACTLY the same way that Internet Explorer was bundled in the past, Web 2.0 requires a browser to be bundled with the OS and integrated into it.

When I say “Microsoft 7″ I mean of course every version from Microsoft 7 Embedded to Microsoft 7 Godzilla Enterprise Server, they will all ship with the default, ooh, let’s pick a catchy name, MicroSoft Internet Foundry, so default MSIE and MSIF neatly complementing each other.

By 2011 we can have MS in Court facing anti trust charges, but as with MSIE by then the damage will be done, and maybe Mitchell Baker will be doing a Marc Andressen and praising MS for embracing a Open Source code and making the net a better place.

To be fair, if MS had not embraced and extended the Berkeley TCP/IP stack the internet as we know it today would be a very different place, and that includes the Apache web server as we know it today.

In the meantime…

All your Web 2.0 are belong to us.

signed, MicroSoft.

One person who was in touch with us a few months ago predicted that Microsoft would ‘extend’ TCP/IP with DRM (or TPM). The DRM infrastructure and the wholly-new stack that come in Vista may only be a preparation for this. See this old article:

Researchers with Symantec’s advanced threat team poked through Vista’s new network stack in several recent builds of the still-under-construction operating system, and found several bugs — some of which have been fixed, including a few in Monday’s release — as well as broader evidence that the rewrite of the networking code could easily lead to problems.

If it’s not broken, why ‘fix’ it? Why does Microsoft rewrite the stack from scratch, possibly under the guise of “security”, where security means control?

Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • StumbleUpon
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Propeller
  • Slashdot
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Webnews
  • YahooMyWeb

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channel. To use your own IRC client, join channel #boycottnovell in FreeNode.

Pages that cross-reference this one

5 Comments

  1. Victor Soliz said,

    July 28, 2008 at 7:48 am

    Gravatar

    I think, this is all about DRM and not about suing Apache, MS might sue Apache, one day but it will not be in relation to this. It is quite certain the priority here is not (MS’) imaginary property else they wouldn’t have accepted the L-GPL. You can say this is for a bigger, much more evil project…

  2. Aaron Farr said,

    July 28, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Gravatar

    You know, you could always just, I dont’ know, maybe go ask some of the Apache committers what’s going on rather than say, make stuff up. This is getting ridiculous.

    First off, Microsoft could ship with Apache software _before_ the sponsorship. It’s already open source. They get _nothing_ from the sponsorship money that helps them get the web server running on Windows, so I don’t see this line of thinking working out.

    The linked article is clearly just speculation and not even good speculation. You people need to work harder on your conspiracy theories.

  3. Roy Schestowitz said,

    July 28, 2008 at 10:30 am

    Gravatar

    Aaron, I never suggested it was about committal of code. I don’t think it is. Microsoft doesn’t commit to the Free Desktop either, but it paid a lot of money to Novell and it has been getting its money’s worth.

    You know, Microsoft has also been sending the Firefox team at Mozilla some cakes and invited them to Redmond to work on Windows compatibility (at the expense of time spent on other platforms). And then there’s Zend.

    People live and learn. I’ve seen Microsoft back-stabbing partners time after time after time. It’s not a charity and it’s not even ethical.

    I received this E-mail from a friend a few hours ago (partly related to this):


    Basically, SCO was baseless and is kept alive by MS funding and MS party activists. However, I’m sure at some point it became apparent that it could work if there were real licensing issues to be found. So: a short “truce” with Novell to spend 5 years frantically injecting licensed technology into every possible project. e.g. GNOME, Ubuntu

    Apache has been the major obstacle for following through on the strategy outlined in the “Halloween Documents” It keeps TCP/IP and HTTP on top. However, I notice that more and more MS shops are quietly (secretly) pulling the plug on other standards like DNS, at least in-house and behind the smoke screen of a firewall and ’security’.

    One thing that just occurs to me is that this distracts from the catastrophic bank failures in Europe induced by ideologs shoehorning MS Sharepoint into banking without regard even to basic phases of software engineering or product evaluation. Mismanagement.

  4. Allan Frisby said,

    December 4, 2008 at 4:44 am

    Gravatar

    This sounds kinda kooky – I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying, but you have to accept that, businesses, as they have been doing for thousands of years normally try to uphold their interests, whichever way possible.

    This just reads like a conspiracy nut’s rambling about someone what may have wronged them in the past. The whole ‘Microsoft is evil’ is even more tired – there’s many reasons why they hold a 90% share in world desktops, the one that sticks out the most is that manufacturers and corporations don’t want to roll out organic, ever changing, open-source applications. They would prefer to pay an up-front fee for something that may not be perfect, but generally everything built for it ‘just works’.

    Just something to think about. Also, I am a 100% linux user, fyi. Not because I have something against Microsoft, but because it doesn’t offer me anything I can’t figure out for myself on linux.

  5. pcolon said,

    December 4, 2008 at 5:54 am

    Gravatar

    that may not be perfect, but generally everything built for it ‘just works’.

    Why then would Microsoft need the Mojave advertisements?
    Why haven’t they fixed Vista? It’s been 2 years and all you hear is “Windows 7″

What Else is New


  1. Eye on Microsoft: Signs of Game Over

    The press seems pessimistic about Microsoft, which is increasingly seen as unable to evolve and innovate; Microsoft's security problems (and security PR) persist in a major way



  2. Windows 'Battery Killer' (Vista 7) Also Has USB Data Transfer Issues and Stability Problems, Does Not Sell Well

    Vista 7 is plagued by serious bugs and new patches from Microsoft are said to be making things even worse; Microsoft is still unable to formulate a response to the new problems and Vista 7 sales continue to disappoint, so more vapourware and fake "leaks" are being used instead



  3. Norwegian Agency for Public Management and eGovernment Slams Microsoft OOXML

    The authorities in Norway justify the country's decision to reject Microsoft's standards-hostile ploy



  4. Steve Ballmer Visits Obama Once Again as His Fight Against Google Continues

    Updates on the competition between Microsoft and Google -- a rivalry that takes political form



  5. Microsoft's Hostile Takeover of the Healthcare System

    Microsoft wants to make medical records and management of patients a lot more dependent on Windows and its own private servers



  6. More Mono and Patent Poison from Novell

    “Pinta” comes from Novell staff and software patents tax (on SLE*) comes from Microsoft in the form of vouchers



  7. Patents Roundup: EFF Defends VoIP; Google, Apple, and Black Duck Stifle Progress; Microsoft Joins RPX

    A quick look at some patent news from the past week, ranging from defence to offence



  8. United Nations and World Bank Help Bill Gates and Microsoft Colonise Africa

    Microsoft's and Gates' incursions in Africa are backed by self-serving Western agenda of patents and proprietary software



  9. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 8th, 2010

    IRC Log for February 8th, 2010



  10. Links 8/2/2010: Linux 2.6.33 RC7 and Parsix GNU/Linux 3.0r2 Released

    Links for the day



  11. Xbox 360 Still Under Many Lawsuits

    Lawsuits from many fronts add to the trouble that Microsoft's Xbox 360 already faces



  12. Facebook and Microsoft Revisited; New Examples of Microsoft Entryism

    A look at Facebook's relationship with Microsoft in 2010; Microsoft employees have an effect in competitors of Microsoft, so this issue is addressed too



  13. Microsoft Still Exploits the Taxpayers-Funded NASA to Spread Silver Lie and Close Down Research

    Microsoft-imposed corruption of NASA's obligation to the public carries on as it strives to capture academia too



  14. Microsoft 'Cloud' Falls Offline for a Quarter of a Day, Zune 'Cloud' Deletes Music, Microsoft Shop Also Kaput

    Microsoft continues to give online operations and online storage a bad name because of its sheer incompetence



  15. Ubuntu Perspectives: Signs of Change

    Analysis of Canonical's latest moves, which are being defended by some and severely criticised by others



  16. Apple's Newton Executive Negative About Apple's Latest Attempts at a Shinier Newton

    Apple's iPad still faces sometimes-overwhelming criticism, even from the company's own supporters and existing/former staff



  17. Microsoft Loses Another Vice President, Management Vacuum Alarms the Press

    Another Microsoft Vice President has just left Microsoft, joining the ranks of many more



  18. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 7th, 2010

    IRC Log for February 7th, 2010



  19. Links 07/2/2010: Linux Mint 8 KDE, Linus on Nexus One

    Links for the day



  20. Patents Roundup: Extortion, Protection Rackets, Patent Trolling, and Small Victory for Mozilla

    Johnson and Johnson's multi-billion-dollar patent fine, patents' harms to real science and life, patent trolls thrive, and Mozilla's opposition to patent-encumbered codecs gradually pays off



  21. The Microsoft Apologists and Boosters Really, Really Like Novell!

    A complete list of news articles about Moonlight 3.0 preview shows that its biggest fans are Microsoft fans



  22. iPad is Like Zune

    iPad -- like Zune -- might not reach the European Union (EU), possibly due to lukewarm reception and lack of appeal, not trademarks



  23. Microsoft Shows Yet Again That It is Allergic to GNU/Linux

    Microsoft's hatred of GNU/Linux, as demonstrated in this weekend's news



  24. Michael Arrington a Hypocrite: Bribed by Microsoft Yet Fires Bribed Bloggers

    Another fine example of an influential blogger who sells out to Microsoft yet does not apply to himself the same standards that he applies to colleagues



  25. Microsoft Refuses to Comment About (Deny) the Sex Parties, Drug Use

    No denial from Microsoft in the face of very strong allegations



  26. Another Misdirected Response from the Government to the Company “Not Engineered for Security”

    Another terrible month for Microsoft insecurity and the government is still unable to respond sensibly to the threat



  27. IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: February 6th, 2010

    IRC Log for February 6th, 2010



  28. Links 6/2/2010: GNOME Journal Released, ARM CEO Sees Bright Future

    Links for the day



  29. Novell Executives Still Cannot Write Blog Posts?

    New evidence of ghostwriters in Novell's own Web site



  30. Microsoft Wants More Licensing Instead of Windows Bans

    At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Microsoft super-lobbyist Craig Mundie requests new laws that complicate the Internet and ignore the real problem (Microsoft negligence)


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts