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	<title>Comments on: Snapshot of the Software Patents Situation in the US, India, EU</title>
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	<description>Exploring the reality behind exclusionary deals with Microsoft and their subtle (yet severe) implications</description>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30/software-patent-situation/comment-page-2/#comment-17490</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and based on what I&#039;ve read, there&#039;s danger that Novell&#039;s buggier fork will incorporate various features that Microsoft wants in it, too. 

With Novell, there&#039;s Microsoft money on the table (Sun is another story). Trust erodes because OOo is a &quot;biggest competitor&quot; to Microsoft (it says so explicitly). I wrote some more bits about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/politely-steal-from-linux/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this morning&lt;/a&gt;. They shelter Windows, OOXML, .NET/VBA, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and based on what I&#8217;ve read, there&#8217;s danger that Novell&#8217;s buggier fork will incorporate various features that Microsoft wants in it, too. </p>
<p>With Novell, there&#8217;s Microsoft money on the table (Sun is another story). Trust erodes because OOo is a &#8220;biggest competitor&#8221; to Microsoft (it says so explicitly). I wrote some more bits about it <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/politely-steal-from-linux/" rel="nofollow">this morning</a>. They shelter Windows, OOXML, .NET/VBA, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30/software-patent-situation/comment-page-2/#comment-17489</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because Sun run OOo like a cathedral, even while talking up the advantages of the bazaar.

1. Sun are ridiculously slow taking in the patches of others. This is why the Novell fork existed - it started as the Ximian fork, many years ago.
2. Sun refuse to accept contributions to OOo where you have not signed the copyright over to Sun in such a way that they can proprietise it. I realise this is what Novell do with Mono, but that doesn&#039;t make it a good idea either.

It&#039;s open source - when a project is being badly hampered by being run as a cathedral, a fork run as a bazaar is just the thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because Sun run OOo like a cathedral, even while talking up the advantages of the bazaar.</p>
<p>1. Sun are ridiculously slow taking in the patches of others. This is why the Novell fork existed &#8211; it started as the Ximian fork, many years ago.<br />
2. Sun refuse to accept contributions to OOo where you have not signed the copyright over to Sun in such a way that they can proprietise it. I realise this is what Novell do with Mono, but that doesn&#8217;t make it a good idea either.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s open source &#8211; when a project is being badly hampered by being run as a cathedral, a fork run as a bazaar is just the thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30/software-patent-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-17439</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know why they are not accepted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know why they are not accepted?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastiaan Veld</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30/software-patent-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-17435</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastiaan Veld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; A OO fork with a lot of M$ capabilities

Old news. It&#039;s not a fork, it a OO build with patches that are not yet accepted upstream (since accepting patches by Sun seems to be sooo slow).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; A OO fork with a lot of M$ capabilities</p>
<p>Old news. It&#8217;s not a fork, it a OO build with patches that are not yet accepted upstream (since accepting patches by Sun seems to be sooo slow).</p>
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		<title>By: maerklin</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30/software-patent-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-17398</link>
		<dc:creator>maerklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; A OO fork with a lot of M$ capabilities

The go-oo.org builds are used in Debian, Gentoo and Ubuntu; also the Mac OS NeoOffice is based on it.

You, too, are probably using it but that doesn&#039;t stop you from bad-mouthing the company behind it, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; A OO fork with a lot of M$ capabilities</p>
<p>The go-oo.org builds are used in Debian, Gentoo and Ubuntu; also the Mac OS NeoOffice is based on it.</p>
<p>You, too, are probably using it but that doesn&#8217;t stop you from bad-mouthing the company behind it, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30/software-patent-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-17349</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Novell is a bad company.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

s/bad/mcrosoft/

This was predictable. Thanks for the headsup.</description>
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Novell is a bad company.
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<p>s/bad/mcrosoft/</p>
<p>This was predictable. Thanks for the headsup.</p>
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		<title>By: self_liar</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/30/software-patent-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-17348</link>
		<dc:creator>self_liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roy 

I know this is not a place for this but look this:

http://go-oo.org/discover/

A OO fork with a lot of M$ capabilities

Look the authors  ; )

Novell is a bad company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roy </p>
<p>I know this is not a place for this but look this:</p>
<p><a href="http://go-oo.org/discover/" rel="nofollow">http://go-oo.org/discover/</a></p>
<p>A OO fork with a lot of M$ capabilities</p>
<p>Look the authors  ; )</p>
<p>Novell is a bad company.</p>
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