Comments on: Links 31/07/2008: Big Win for Ogg, Microsoft Vista Site Powered by GNU/Linux http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/ Exploring the reality behind exclusionary deals with Microsoft and their subtle (yet severe) implications Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:49:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: David Gerard http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-17583 David Gerard Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:41:47 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/#comment-17583 <i>"I believe that Firefox (Mozilla) did this because it realised the threat of a proprietary Web"</i> - very likely. But it's worth noting the <video> element was proposed by Apple for use in Safari! It's just Firefox and Opera (in a labs experimental build, not in actual release-line stuff) have been the first to implement it with Ogg in place. The main vector of attack for Apple would be to put up a metric buttload of H.264 or similar encumbered-format content themselves. “I believe that Firefox (Mozilla) did this because it realised the threat of a proprietary Web” – very likely. But it’s worth noting the <video> element was proposed by Apple for use in Safari! It’s just Firefox and Opera (in a labs experimental build, not in actual release-line stuff) have been the first to implement it with Ogg in place.

The main vector of attack for Apple would be to put up a metric buttload of H.264 or similar encumbered-format content themselves.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-17560 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:13:14 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/#comment-17560 IIRC. Microsoft.com had it Flash preloader running fedora. Hotmail might still run on FOSS. IIRC. Microsoft.com had it Flash preloader running fedora. Hotmail might still run on FOSS.

]]> By: aaaa bbbb http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-17559 aaaa bbbb Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:00:33 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/#comment-17559 Wasn't there a screenshot (ages ago) of a WinUpdate-server running on GNU/Linux? Wasn’t there a screenshot (ages ago) of a WinUpdate-server running on GNU/Linux?

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-17555 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:31:32 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/#comment-17555 I believe that Firefox (Mozilla) did this because it realised the threat of a proprietary Web. Opera too recently started Ajax/standards seminars because it sees it under threat by lazy developer that champion the binary SDKs and binary page content/viewer (which Google and Yahoo now encourage by indexing!). I believe that Firefox (Mozilla) did this because it realised the threat of a proprietary Web. Opera too recently started Ajax/standards seminars because it sees it under threat by lazy developer that champion the binary SDKs and binary page content/viewer (which Google and Yahoo now encourage by indexing!).

]]> By: David Gerard http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/comment-page-1/#comment-17514 David Gerard Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:22:16 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/31/big-win-for-ogg/#comment-17514 The Ogg Theora thing is a big win for FOSS. Particularly as Wikimedia has been desperately waiting for this - remember, we only allow Theora videos. The WMF installation of MediaWiki does allow the <video> tag if supported by the browser, but it's presently the last option as browser support is still really crappy. But with people beating on the Firefox nightlies and generating bug reports and crash reports, it may be in better shape by 3.1-final than the current option, which is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortado_(software)" rel="nofollow">Cortado</a> under Java! (WMF does allow a little bit of Java into the system software. That's because so far Sun have been making good on everything they promised with freeing Java, so we think it unlikely they'll embarrass us at this stage.) The Ogg Theora thing is a big win for FOSS. Particularly as Wikimedia has been desperately waiting for this – remember, we only allow Theora videos. The WMF installation of MediaWiki does allow the <video> tag if supported by the browser, but it’s presently the last option as browser support is still really crappy. But with people beating on the Firefox nightlies and generating bug reports and crash reports, it may be in better shape by 3.1-final than the current option, which is Cortado under Java!

(WMF does allow a little bit of Java into the system software. That’s because so far Sun have been making good on everything they promised with freeing Java, so we think it unlikely they’ll embarrass us at this stage.)

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