EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

08.02.08

Do-No-Evil Saturday – Part II: OpenSUSE 11.1 on People’s PCs, Events Behind and Ahead

Posted in KDE, Linspire, Novell, OpenSUSE, SLES/SLED, Turbolinux, Xandros at 1:53 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

SuSE logo

OpenSUSE

OpenSUSE 11.1 is already here in the form of a test build and it has received some attention. For another perspective on OpenSUSE, there’s always the OpenSUSE Web site.

In this week:

* openSUSE 11.0 Survey
* openSUSE 11.0 PromoDVD
* openSUSE 11.1 Alpha1 is Available
* Bugzilla: Changed Definitions
* One Year of openSUSE News
* Andrew Wafaa: Lug Radio Live 2008 Report

OpenSUSE 11.1

Perhaps most interesting is the fact that an early live CD of KDE 4.1.0 (final) is built on top of OpenSUSE 11.011.1 alpha 1. Mixing stable with unstable? Anyway:

The KDE team today released KDE 4.1. The KDE developers, including the openSUSE KDE Team, have been working on it for the last six months. Lots of feedback from people trying out KDE 4.0 has gone into KDE 4.1, filling most of the gaps people experienced with the 4.0 releases. See the release announcement for more information and screenshots.

Here is an early look at this combination.

OpenSUSE 11.1 alpha 1 with KDE 4.1

[...]

Recently with the rise of KDE 4 and especially KDE 4.1 I’ve kinda wanted to try it just to see whats really going on. Now, personally I cannot stand KDE or qt, I’m a Gnome and GTK kinda guy. So where did I start? I went to Google to find OpenSUSE’s newest alpha which I’ve heard to have KDE 4.1. So I downloaded it, burned it, booted it, and was amazed at the art went into OpenSUSE.

Novell is also looking for some free labour with artwork. Yes, OpenSUSE’s face is bound to change again. Will it stay green? Back to blue maybe?

OpenSUSE 11.0

There was a variety of technical posts such as this one about Windows shares. In what appears like a new site, SUSEGeek, there have been quite a few instructional posts published, including this, this and this.

The following post about Debian 5.0 offers some good words to this latest release from the OpenSUSE developers.

I really like openSUSE…a LOT. It works well for me on my laptop, which is an interesting case. It doesn’t get along very well with a lot of Linux distributions. It’s an older Pentium-M Thinkpad R40 with a dead on-board NIC – it’s only Internet connection now is an Atheros based Wifi PCMCIA card which requires Madwifi to work. Although openSUSE doesn’t have Madwifi out of the box, it’s very easy to hit the Madwifi repository, download the RPM’s, install them and then keep it up-to-date with YaST.

CRN is, as usual, a little cautious and it labels OpenSUSE a distro for the pros.

OpenSUSE is probably best for power users, those who can take advantage of the virtualization support and more experienced Linux users. But for those just looking for a simple desktop to use e-mail or listen to MP3s, OpenSUSE is probably overkill.

If Power Users are the target audience, then surely Beranger might like it.

I was so lazy and disenchanted lately, that I didn’t care anymore about “morality” with regards to what OS I am using. This being said, the “new” laptop is still under openSUSE 11.0, and this should be regarded as a shame for the other Linux distros! So far, this bastard son of SuSE A.G. and Novell Inc. is performing well and it’s very stable with GNOME and KDE3 applications.

Another rants mix from Beranger says a little more about hardships with installation.

How on Earth can such a big distro as openSUSE 11.0 NOT have Glipper in the official repositories? (Or Parcellite, if not Glipper.) You can only get it from from zdenekzapp’s repository, which is hosted on opensuse.org, but it’s not an official repo!

Here are some experiences with KDE 4.x and word about Zypper.

Speaking about OpenSuSE in general… 11.0 seems like a solid release to me. In 10.3 Zypper just sucked. Totally. Waiting 5 minutes before it had even pulled together it’s repository caches was unbearable. It’s a lot better in 11.0, not as fast as apt, but almost there.

Negative experiences exist as well and here is one such examples.

My next pick was openSUSE 11.0, which I already was somewhat familiar with. It is a very nicely productized desktop environment and has some nice repositories available for backports. After installing and fine-tuning everything in place, I went on to watch a video in YouTube that a friend has sent me – Firefox crashed. Restarted it and tried a couple more videos, and got just as many crashes.

Public Appearances/Events

Zonker (Joe) took some notes about OSCON that he wanted to share :

I can’t believe OSCON is over already. It seems like the week flew by, probably because there was almost zero downtime from the time I arrived in Portland until the time I went to the airport.

Serdar Yegulalp also had some notes ‘spillover’ from OSCON. Some of it was about Joe.

(Joe Brockmeier (“Zonker”) sounded off on the above as well, although more from the point of view of the Linux community now being more willing to accept criticism of its methods and practices generally than the silo effect alone.)

A few days ago, Joe sent out the following E-mail about LinuxWorld.


Join the openSUSE Project for a day of fun and FOSS at the LinuxWorld
Expo! On Wednesday, August 6th, the openSUSE Project will be holding
its first “openSUSE Day” in North America, in conjuction with the
LinuxWorld Expo at the Moscone Center in San Francisco.

We’ll have a full day of presentations about the openSUSE Project,
KDE, GNOME, the Linux kernel, the openSUSE Build Service, and much
more. Come by and learn all about openSUSE, pick up an openSUSE 11.0
DVD and some of the fabulous door prizes — We’ll be giving away two
Chumby’s (must be present to win) and tons of openSUSE swag –
including openSUSE t-shirts, caps, and other big prizes.

The schedule runs from 9:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., including an openSUSE
Birds of a Feather at 4:15 p.m. See the full schedule at:

http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Day_at_LinuxWorld_Expo.

We will also have a booth in the .Org area at LinuxWorld, so stop by
and say hi and learn all about openSUSE. Attendance is free, and if
you’re registered you also have access to the show expo floor. To
register, go to http://linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015.
Select the openSUSE Community Day and sign up.

Want to help with the openSUSE Day or help staff the openSUSE booth in
the LWE .Org Pavilion? We’d love to have you! If you’d like to get
involved, speak up on the opensuse-marketing list or contact Joe
‘Zonker’ Brockmeier (zonker@opensuse.org).


Joe has also just blogged about it here.

Community

Videos like this new one make it difficult to criticise the project.

Ogg Theora

SUSE (SLES/SLED)

Not much to see here, but watch Gentoo taking over SUSE territories.

Companies like 1and1 and Strato offer virtual servers based on the Virtuozzo virtualization technology. While these machines are quite cheap and provide a full linux work environment they run SUSE by default. Not my favorite linux distribution…

I was pretty certain that I could also switch the server to Gentoo. But when I asked the customer support they told me that they have no one running Gentoo on any of these machines. And that they would have no clue if that could work.

Here is a bit of a fluke that can either be blamed on IBM or SUSE (or something upstream).

I was preparing to move to my Linux desktop yesterday when all hell broke loose. It seems the SLED 10 box and its partner in crime Lotus Notes were having a very bad day. Let me recapitulate.

[...]

IBM and Novell, the two of you are going to have to a whole lot better if you are going to think about challenging the Microsoft hegemony. I just hope I’m still around to see it!

Also SUSE-based are the products from rPath, which are covered in this article.

One thing that did catch my attention is the amalgam of licenses used in the rBuilder Appliance. rBuilder itself also isn’t open source, at least as far as I can tell. But I’ve suspected for a while now that we’re going to see more of this kind of amalgamating of open and proprietary.

Mixed-source? Perfect match for Novell.

Turbolinux

Turbolinux Appliance Server 3.0 seems to have been released. Most of the mysterious articles seem to be in Japanese. Turbolinux is another company that sold out to Microsoft. There has been nothing from Xandros recently; it devoured Linspire silently.

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

2 Comments

  1. Anonymous said,

    August 3, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Gravatar

    > live CD of KDE 4.1.0 (final) is built on top of OpenSUSE 11.1 alpha 1.

    It’s built on top of openSUSE 11.0.

    > Mixing stable with unstable?

    No, just usual misinformation of this site.

  2. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 3, 2008 at 12:49 am

    Gravatar

    Hmmmm… someone told me it was OpenSUSE 11.1 alpha 1. Bad source. I’ll correct the post, thanks.

What Else is New


  1. The Latest EPO Victim Card (Played by Željko Topić) Should be Treated as Seriously as Those Bogus Claims of Violence by a Judge (Updated)

    In its desperate pursuit of a narrative wherein the staff of the EPO is violent and aggressive the management of the EPO, renowned for institutional aggression, finds (or claims to have found) a little tampering with a bicycle



  2. Links 25/5/2016: Nginx 1.11, F1 2015 Coming to GNU/Linux Tomorrow

    Links for the day



  3. The Media Starts Informing the European Public About the Downsides of UPC While EPO Accelerates Its Lobbying for Ratification

    The EPO's shameless UPC promotion takes another step forward as the European press outlets (even television channels) begin to explore the secret deal that's negotiated by patent lawyers (with corporate clients) and patent offices, not the public or any public interest groups



  4. Some Details About How the EPO's President is Rumoured to be 'Buying' Votes and Why It's Grounds/Basis for “Immediate Dismissal”

    Some background information and a detailed explanation of the systemic financial dependency, created by Battistelli at the cost of €13 million or more, which prevents effective oversight of Battistelli



  5. How the Patent Lawyers' Microcosm Continues to Boost Software Patents Filth by Misdirecting Readers, Relying on Highly Selective Coverage

    Under the guise of reporting/analysis/advice the community of patent lawyers is effectively lobbying to make software patents popular and widely-accepted again, based on one single case which they wish to make 'the' precedent



  6. Documents Show Zagreb Police Department in Investigation of Vice-President of the European Patent Office

    Željko Topić's troubles in Croatia, where he faces many criminal charges, may soon become an extraordinary burden for the EPO, which distances itself from it all mostly by attacking staff that 'dares' to bring up the subject



  7. [ES] Interrumpiendo la Propagánda Distractante de Battistelli: los Empleados de la EPO Protestará de Nuevo en una Quincena

    La exágerada extravagancia (desperdicio de dinero) en la Ceremonia de Premiación al Inventor Europeo de la EPO tendrá que competir por atención de los medios con miles de empleados de la EPO (en todaslas sedes de la EPO) marchándo en las calles para protestar por los abusos de la EPO



  8. Windows and Microsoft's Other 'Burning Platforms'

    It's not just Windows for phones that's reaching minuscule market share levels but also Windows, but Microsoft is skilled at hiding this (cannibalising Windows using something people do not even want, then counting that cannibal, Vista 10)



  9. Links 24/5/2016: CRYENGINE Source Code is Out on GitHub, Jono Bacon Leaves GitHub

    Links for the day



  10. Links 23/5/2016: GNOME 3.22, Calculate Linux 15.17

    Links for the day



  11. 'Celebrity' Patent Trolls and the Elusive Battle Against Patent Trolls (or Eastern District of Texas Courts) Rather Than Software Patents

    Some of last week's more important reports, which serve to demonstrate how the system is attempting to tackle a side-effect of software patents rather than the patents themselves (their irrational scope)



  12. The Circus of Patent 'Reporting' (by Omission) on the Subject of Software Patents in the US and USPTO Bias

    look at some of the latest oddities in the US patent system and much of the reporting about software patenting (more or less monopolised by those who profit from it, not harmed by it)



  13. IP3 Demonstrates That Today's Patent Systems Devolve Into a Conglomerates' Game, Won't Protect the Mythical Small Inventor

    Multinational corporations bring together their shared interests and steer the increasingly-inseparable patent systems according to their needs and goals, but has anyone even noticed?



  14. Disrupting Battistelli's Distracting Propaganda: EPO Staff to Protest Again in About a Fortnight

    The overly extravagant (waste of money) EPO European Inventor Award will have to compete for media attention with thousands of EPO staff (in all EPO sites) marching in the streets to protest against the EPO's abuses



  15. Corrupting Democracy? Growing Frequency of Rumours That the EPO's President Battistelli is 'Buying' Votes of Small Member States

    Several sources suggest that rather than appease the Administrative Council by taking corrective action Battistelli and his notorious 'circle' now work hard to remove opposition from the Administrative Council, especially where this is easier a task to accomplish (politically or economically)



  16. [ES] Los Mitos de la EPO ‘Calidad’ de Patentes y de ‘Creación’ de Patentes: Basados en Ventas de Cafe y Trauma

    La carrera hacia el fondo, o la ridícula asumpción de Battistelli de que otorgar más y más patentenes más rápidamente (e.g. usando PACE) sería beneficióso a largo término, puede guíar al final colapse del valor de la EPO y la pérdida de su lárgamente ganada reputación a nivel mundial



  17. Links 22/5/2016: Systemd 230, Debian Installer Alpha 6

    Links for the day



  18. EPO Patent 'Quality' and 'Patent Creation' Myth: Capsule-Based Coffee Sales and Trauma

    The race to the bottom, or Battistelli's ludicrous assumption that granting more and more patents faster (e.g. using PACE) would be beneficial in the long run, may lead to the ultimate collapse of the EPO's value and demise of its long-earned reputation worldwide



  19. Guest Post: How Vista 10 Imposes Itself on Users of Windows

    A reader's experience being nagged by Microsoft, as documented and explained by this reader



  20. [ES] El Notorio Tirano de la EPO, Benoît Battistelli, Se Reune Con Otros Tiranos, Reportes de Que ‘Limpia’ el Consejo Administrativo

    El régimen de Battistelli, talvez la fuente de verguénza más grande, alegadamente está “cortejándo países pequeños/corruptos para asegurárse de que los delegados que votarón contra él serán remplazados”



  21. [ES] Comentadores Anónimos Debaten Si la EPO de Battistelli Puede Revocar las Pensiones de Empleados Que Se Atreveen — GASP — a Buscar Empleo Alternativo

    Una mirada a las causas de desesperación e imensa presión en la EPO, donde las pensiónes pueden ser cortadas como medio de represália y la gente puede ser negada empleo aún después de dejar la Oficina Europea de Patentes (EPO)



  22. [ES] Otra Casi Vacía Presentación de la EPO en La Hague

    El propagandístico “estudio social” de Battistelli (básicamente un montón de engañosas afirmacionesdisfrazadas como ‘investigación’) ayuda a demostrar que los empleados de la EPO no tiene absolutamente fe en la gerencia



  23. Links 21/5/2016: Manjaro Linux RC, Flock 2016 Schedule

    Links for the day



  24. USPTO Ignores a Lot of Cases Against Software Patents to Justify Resumption of More Software Patenting

    The US patent system (USPTO) is so obsessed with granting as many patents as possible -- even bogus patents in areas that are no longer patent-eligible -- that its guidelines are further perturbed and whose appeals board is massively overwhelmed/overworked/understaffed



  25. Notorious EPO Tyrant, Benoît Battistelli, Meets Other Tyrants, Reportedly 'Cleanses' the Administrative Council

    The Battistelli regime, perhaps the biggest embarrassment of Europe right now, is allegedly "courting smaller countries to make sure the delegates who voted against him will be replaced"



  26. Links 20/5/2016: Purism Tablet, ChromeOS PCs Outsell 'Mac'-Branded PCs

    Links for the day



  27. CAFC Rules Against Software Patents But Witness With Horror the Silence From Patent Lawyers (Bias by Omission)

    In an effort to protect software patents in the United States, where these patents came from in the first place (and continue to spread from), patent lawyers pretend not to see cases where software patents get invalidated and instead focus on the rare exception



  28. It's All Just Artificial Distractions From EPO Management, 'Yellow' Union Comes Under Scrutiny Again

    What's happening inside the EPO these days and what meaningless rubbish the management of the EPO would rather have the media obsessed with



  29. Anonymous Commenters Debate Whether Battistelli's EPO Can Revoke Pensions of Dismissed Employees Who Dare -- GASP -- Find Alternative Employment

    A look at causes for desperation and immense pressure at the EPO, where pensions can be cut as means of reprisal and people can be denied employment even after they leave the European Patent Office (EPO)



  30. Australian Productivity Commission's Research Calls for Ban on Software Patents, Davies Collison Cave Calls for Complaints Against This Finding

    As the push against software patents grows in Australia, much to the chagrin of Australian software developers, Davies Collison Cave (patent law firm) publicly calls for opposition, calling its side "the truth" and pretending it represents "Australian innovators."


CoPilotCo

RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

CoPilotCo

Recent Posts