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08.15.08

No Mono in Fedora 10 (“Cambridge”) Live CD

Posted in GNOME, Mono, Novell, Red Hat at 4:48 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Mono was spotted in Fedora 8, but we noticed it was absent from the Fedora 9 Live CD. It happened around the time that Fedora said no to Moonlight, which itself depends on Mono. We can now confirm that the same goes for the current build of Fedora 10. A reader of ours, ‘neighborlee’, has sent us the following screenshots as proof.

Here you can see that Tomboy is not installed. Its icon is nowhere in sight.

GNOME Fedora Desktop

Another example of abstinence:

GNOME Fedora Menu

Validation of the claim that Mono is excluded:

GNOME Fedora Install

Good news overall.

Fedora seems to have mitigated its dependency on Novell's (and Microsoft's) potential trap.

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19 Comments

  1. self_liar said,

    August 15, 2008 at 4:52 pm

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    Very Good!!!!!

    Because of this, i will install fedora in next release.

    And I will do a lot of publicity about this

    Thanks Roy!

  2. Victor Soliz said,

    August 15, 2008 at 5:44 pm

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    Is that the default look? So nice, with it and no Mono I might switch to Fedora.

  3. mopfus said,

    August 15, 2008 at 6:03 pm

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    Sadly, there is a difference between “No Mono on the Live CD” and “No Mono in the installed distro”

    Mono is still included in the default install of Fedora w/ GNOME

  4. HC said,

    August 15, 2008 at 6:13 pm

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    I have been using Ubuntu up until now, but this is really good. I will look at switching over the weekend also.

  5. neo said,

    August 15, 2008 at 10:33 pm

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    “Mono is still included in the default install of Fedora w/ GNOME ”

    Umm, No. The live cd is the installer that is recommended by Fedora for desktop users.

  6. Hun said,

    August 15, 2008 at 11:46 pm

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    http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu810alpha4-large_003.jpg

    Tomboy not in the panel but its still installed.

    Fspot still there…

    http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu810alpha4-large_005.jpg

  7. gggggg said,

    August 16, 2008 at 1:44 am

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    @Hun

    You are confusing things. We’re talking about fedora!

  8. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 16, 2008 at 1:52 am

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    Yes, you beat me t it. We area already aware of Ubuntu’s disappointing stance on the subject.

  9. Hun said,

    August 16, 2008 at 3:59 am

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    gggggggggggggggggggg

    i am checking whether ubuntu is stil infected with mononono

  10. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 16, 2008 at 4:02 am

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    Here is a good place to start.

  11. Ashish Shukla said,

    August 16, 2008 at 3:05 pm

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    Hope to see mono wiped off from their repositories too… :-D

  12. Victor Soliz said,

    August 17, 2008 at 9:07 am

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    it is ok to have it in repos. Bad to have it necessary for default.

    I just found this in groklaw: http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20080805144125413&title=How+to+remove+Mono+(M%24)+from+Ubuntu+Hardy+Heron&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=716633#c716651

    Is this true? And why does it happen? Why would ooO require libmono in PCLinuxOS? Are they using go-ooo? That would suck, PCLinuxOS is kind of over hyped and it would suck if such a popular distro supported Novell’s ill intentions like that.

  13. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 17, 2008 at 9:12 am

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    Excellent find. Thanks, Victor. It’s not very surprising.

  14. stevetheFLY said,

    August 17, 2008 at 2:08 pm

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    you people really suck. R U stoopid? it’s obvious this is only a mistake in PCLinuxOS’s package management. go-oo is used in Ubuntu, too.

    Note: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, abusive Internet troll that posts from open proxies and relays around the world.

  15. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 17, 2008 at 2:17 pm

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    Hi, ‘eet’. Nice nymshift. Your IP gives it all away, never mind the obvious giveaway that’s your nym.

  16. Faldegast said,

    August 18, 2008 at 4:57 am

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    While i actually like mono i agree that it should be removed from Fedora and CentOS. I would prefer to install mono from its own repositories, that worked a lot better. Mono is progressing rapidly and its one of the few components where i actually wanna be at the edge.

  17. Doreen said,

    August 21, 2008 at 11:42 pm

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    Could someone advise if Mono is installed in Linpus Linux Lite which is pre-installed in the Acer Aspire One Mini? TIA

  18. Bryon said,

    October 18, 2008 at 10:23 pm

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    Without “Mono”, How can I write C# programs on Linux ?

  19. Roy Schestowitz said,

    October 19, 2008 at 1:53 am

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    Why not use programming languages not owned and controlled by a corporate aggressor?

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