EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

08.15.08

No Mono in Fedora 10 (“Cambridge”) Live CD

Posted in GNOME, Mono, Novell, Red Hat at 4:48 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Mono was spotted in Fedora 8, but we noticed it was absent from the Fedora 9 Live CD. It happened around the time that Fedora said no to Moonlight, which itself depends on Mono. We can now confirm that the same goes for the current build of Fedora 10. A reader of ours, ‘neighborlee’, has sent us the following screenshots as proof.

Here you can see that Tomboy is not installed. Its icon is nowhere in sight.

GNOME Fedora Desktop

Another example of abstinence:

GNOME Fedora Menu

Validation of the claim that Mono is excluded:

GNOME Fedora Install

Good news overall.

Fedora seems to have mitigated its dependency on Novell's (and Microsoft's) potential trap.

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

19 Comments

  1. self_liar said,

    August 15, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Gravatar

    Very Good!!!!!

    Because of this, i will install fedora in next release.

    And I will do a lot of publicity about this

    Thanks Roy!

  2. Victor Soliz said,

    August 15, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    Gravatar

    Is that the default look? So nice, with it and no Mono I might switch to Fedora.

  3. mopfus said,

    August 15, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Gravatar

    Sadly, there is a difference between “No Mono on the Live CD” and “No Mono in the installed distro”

    Mono is still included in the default install of Fedora w/ GNOME

  4. HC said,

    August 15, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Gravatar

    I have been using Ubuntu up until now, but this is really good. I will look at switching over the weekend also.

  5. neo said,

    August 15, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Gravatar

    “Mono is still included in the default install of Fedora w/ GNOME ”

    Umm, No. The live cd is the installer that is recommended by Fedora for desktop users.

  6. Hun said,

    August 15, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    Gravatar

    http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu810alpha4-large_003.jpg

    Tomboy not in the panel but its still installed.

    Fspot still there…

    http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu810alpha4-large_005.jpg

  7. gggggg said,

    August 16, 2008 at 1:44 am

    Gravatar

    @Hun

    You are confusing things. We’re talking about fedora!

  8. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 16, 2008 at 1:52 am

    Gravatar

    Yes, you beat me t it. We area already aware of Ubuntu’s disappointing stance on the subject.

  9. Hun said,

    August 16, 2008 at 3:59 am

    Gravatar

    gggggggggggggggggggg

    i am checking whether ubuntu is stil infected with mononono

  10. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 16, 2008 at 4:02 am

    Gravatar

    Here is a good place to start.

  11. Ashish Shukla said,

    August 16, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Gravatar

    Hope to see mono wiped off from their repositories too… :-D

  12. Victor Soliz said,

    August 17, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Gravatar

    it is ok to have it in repos. Bad to have it necessary for default.

    I just found this in groklaw: http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20080805144125413&title=How+to+remove+Mono+(M%24)+from+Ubuntu+Hardy+Heron&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=716633#c716651

    Is this true? And why does it happen? Why would ooO require libmono in PCLinuxOS? Are they using go-ooo? That would suck, PCLinuxOS is kind of over hyped and it would suck if such a popular distro supported Novell’s ill intentions like that.

  13. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 17, 2008 at 9:12 am

    Gravatar

    Excellent find. Thanks, Victor. It’s not very surprising.

  14. stevetheFLY said,

    August 17, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Gravatar

    you people really suck. R U stoopid? it’s obvious this is only a mistake in PCLinuxOS’s package management. go-oo is used in Ubuntu, too.

    Note: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, abusive Internet troll that posts from open proxies and relays around the world.

  15. Roy Schestowitz said,

    August 17, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Gravatar

    Hi, ‘eet’. Nice nymshift. Your IP gives it all away, never mind the obvious giveaway that’s your nym.

  16. Faldegast said,

    August 18, 2008 at 4:57 am

    Gravatar

    While i actually like mono i agree that it should be removed from Fedora and CentOS. I would prefer to install mono from its own repositories, that worked a lot better. Mono is progressing rapidly and its one of the few components where i actually wanna be at the edge.

  17. Doreen said,

    August 21, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Gravatar

    Could someone advise if Mono is installed in Linpus Linux Lite which is pre-installed in the Acer Aspire One Mini? TIA

  18. Bryon said,

    October 18, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    Gravatar

    Without “Mono”, How can I write C# programs on Linux ?

  19. Roy Schestowitz said,

    October 19, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Gravatar

    Why not use programming languages not owned and controlled by a corporate aggressor?

What Else is New


  1. Links 31/1/2015: Open Lunchbox, Librem 15 at Around $400,000

    Links for the day



  2. Links 30/1/2015: CERN Adopts 64-bit GNU/Linux, Inkscape 0.91 Released

    Links for the day



  3. Apple- and Microsoft-Friendly Media Continues Attacking Android/Linux

    Some of the latest examples where corporate media (funded and run by large corporation) distorts facts, selectively covers facts, and generally serves to protect the Apple-Microsoft duopolist world view



  4. Qualys Admits That Its Scare Campaign (So-called 'GHOST') Somewhat Baseless

    Even the company that bombarded the media with its "GHOST" nonsense admits that this bug, which was fixed two years ago, does not pose much of a threat



  5. European Unitary Patent and Court System in Trouble

    New resistance to the Unitary Patent amid allegations of misconduct in the European patent authorities



  6. Text of Ruling/Decision Against Željko Topić (Regarding Audi as a Bribe)

    The legal loss of Željko Topić laid bear for the public to see even outside Croatia



  7. Media Coverage of Demonstration Against Jesper Kongstad of the Administrative Council (EPO)

    Last week's EPO demonstration has been covered by Danish media, raising awareness of the "banana republic" state of the EPO



  8. Links 29/1/2015: Android Shipments in 2014 Exceed 1,000,000,000, LibreOffice 4.4 is Out

    Links for the day



  9. Corporate Media, Led Astray by Patent Lawyers, Continues to Distort the Reality of Software Patents Post-Alice

    The press of the rich and the powerful continues its attempt to preserve software patents, despite the US Supreme Court's decision to abolish a lot of them on the basis of abstraction



  10. An Estimated 1,000 EPO Employees-Strong Legion Engulfs Danish Consulate to Protest Jesper Kongstad's (of Administrative Council) Protection of Benoît Battistelli

    A large protest waged by staff of the EPO targets one of the key facilitators of Battistelli's terrifying tyranny



  11. Links 28/1/2015: Ubuntu Touch Windowed Mode, NVIDIA Linux Legacy Drivers Updated

    Links for the day



  12. Breaking: EPO Vice-President Željko Topić Loses Defamation Case in Croatia

    The EPO's notorious Vice-President, whose appointment at the EPO is still raising some alarming questions, has just lost his case in Croatia (one of many cases), motivating us to accelerate coverage about the persona known as Željko Topić



  13. Qualys Starts Self-Promotional FUD Campaign, Naming a Bug That Was Already Fixed 2 Years Ago and Distros Have Covered With Patches

    Responding to the media blitz which paints GNU/Linux as insecure despite the fact that bugs were evidently found and fixed



  14. The Openwashing of Microsoft is Now Threatening to Eliminate the Identity of Free Software

    More openwashing of Microsoft, including in the corporate media, shows just to what great an extent and how quickly the old "Microsoft Open Source" Big Lie grows feet



  15. Links 27/1/2015: Plasma 5.2, Dell Precision With GNU/Linux

    Links for the day



  16. Microsoft's Media Attack on Free Software and GNU/Linux

    Brainwash war is still being waged by Microsoft and its friends to convince people that Windows is universally dominant and that Microsoft is now part of the Free software world



  17. Microsoft Accounting Practices After Fire Again, After Previous Abuses and Book-Cooking

    After the infamous IRS brawl comes another confrontation between Microsoft and the SEC, which is unhappy with Microsoft for seemingly cooking the books again



  18. Links 26/1/2015: Debian 8.0 “Jessie” RC1, Linux Kernel 3.19 RC6

    Links for the day



  19. Links 25/1/2015: Android Wear 5.0, Tizen in Bangladesh

    Links for the day



  20. IRC Proceedings: January 11th, 2015 – January 24th, 2015

    Many IRC logs



  21. Links 24/1/2015: Zenwalk Linux Reviewed, Netrunner 14.1 Released

    Links for the day



  22. The Latest 'Microsoft is Open Source' Propaganda a Parade of Lies

    Microsoft myth makers continue their assault on what is objectively true and try to tell the public that Microsoft is a friend of "Open Source"



  23. Apple -- Like Microsoft -- Not Interested in the Security of Its Operating Systems

    Apple neglected to patch known security flaws in Mac OS X for no less than three months and only did something about that vector of intrusion when the public found out about it



  24. As Battistelli Breaks the Rules and Topić Silences Staff, New European Parliament Petition for Tackling the EPO's Abuses is Needed

    The neglected (by EPO) Article 4a of the European Patent Convention (EPC) and the European Parliament petition/complaint against the EPO's crooked management



  25. Links 23/1/2015: Red Hat on IBM Power, Meizu Leaks With Ubuntu

    Links for the day



  26. Links 23/1/2015: Plasma 5.2, Manjaro 0.9-pre1

    Links for the day



  27. Microsoft is Dying Due to Free Software, Tries to Infect GNU/Linux With .NET and to Infect Moodle in Schools With Microsoft Office and OOXML Lock-in

    'Free' drugs (a proprietary software analogy) the new strategy of Microsoft in its latest battle against Free software, especially in schools where choice is a rarity (if not an impossibility), with the premeditated intention of forming dependency/addiction among young people



  28. Microsoft Symptoms of a Dying Company: More Boosters Depart, Back Doors Revealed, Microsoft's Outlook Cracked

    Bad news for Microsoft shortly before the marketing extravaganza served to cover much of it up



  29. The Collapse of European Patent Office Management Culminates With Resignations

    No blood is spilled, but even the management of the EPO is falling apart as the Director of Internal Communication is said to have just resigned



  30. New LCA Talk: Open Invention Network's Deb Nicholson on Software Patents and Patent Trolls

    Deb Nicholson's LCA talk is now publicly accessible


CoPilotCo

RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

CoPilotCo

Recent Posts