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	<title>Comments on: Friendly &#8216;Boycott Novell&#8217; Supportes Robbed of Voice</title>
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	<description>Exploring the reality behind exclusionary deals with Microsoft and their subtle (yet severe) implications</description>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-6/#comment-38506</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be missing the point that it was not a Novell event, it was carried under the FOSS banner, and it was not disclosed that a proprietary software company (Novell) would have it sort of hijacked to deceive. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/18/anivar-aravind-on-novell-protest/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this later post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be missing the point that it was not a Novell event, it was carried under the FOSS banner, and it was not disclosed that a proprietary software company (Novell) would have it sort of hijacked to deceive. See <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/18/anivar-aravind-on-novell-protest/" rel="nofollow">this later post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Shankar Anand</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-6/#comment-38503</link>
		<dc:creator>Shankar Anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with HeadMonkey. It was a conference that Novell had sponsored. These protesters did not have any business entering Novell&#039;s stall and pasting anti-Novell posters in Novell&#039;s stall or on Novell&#039;s name/log on the conference advertisement boards.

If they wanted to protest, they should have done it outside the premises.

As HeadMonkey said, this &quot;is like saying, I can come to your rented apartment, and call your wife a whore, and your kid a dumb ass, and assert my right to free speech while doing so, without you being able to call the police and have me removed from your rented apartment.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with HeadMonkey. It was a conference that Novell had sponsored. These protesters did not have any business entering Novell&#8217;s stall and pasting anti-Novell posters in Novell&#8217;s stall or on Novell&#8217;s name/log on the conference advertisement boards.</p>
<p>If they wanted to protest, they should have done it outside the premises.</p>
<p>As HeadMonkey said, this &#8220;is like saying, I can come to your rented apartment, and call your wife a whore, and your kid a dumb ass, and assert my right to free speech while doing so, without you being able to call the police and have me removed from your rented apartment.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: devidas</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-6/#comment-38494</link>
		<dc:creator>devidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kenney, 

The fault ain&#039;t with Communist Government ruling the state. The fault was, as far as my knowledge about the event is concerned, with the organizers who failed to see the Microsoft-Novell tie-ups, and made them the sponsors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kenney, </p>
<p>The fault ain&#8217;t with Communist Government ruling the state. The fault was, as far as my knowledge about the event is concerned, with the organizers who failed to see the Microsoft-Novell tie-ups, and made them the sponsors.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Known</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-6/#comment-37443</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Known</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closed source software businesses promote Collusion in the industry. 
Open source software businesses promote Competition in the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closed source software businesses promote Collusion in the industry.<br />
Open source software businesses promote Competition in the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-5/#comment-37292</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a few questions about the incident 

http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/11/17/who-is-the-real-culprit-novell-or-cusat/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a few questions about the incident </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/11/17/who-is-the-real-culprit-novell-or-cusat/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kenneyjacob.com/2008/11/17/who-is-the-real-culprit-novell-or-cusat/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-5/#comment-37125</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting pressure on Novell is totally fair. They should be distancing themselves from the likes of these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting pressure on Novell is totally fair. They should be distancing themselves from the likes of these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragsagar</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-5/#comment-37057</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragsagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@zenny

nice job buddy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zenny</p>
<p>nice job buddy!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-5/#comment-37050</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m preparing a followup post that&#039;s more comprehensive. This was just a quick one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m preparing a followup post that&#8217;s more comprehensive. This was just a quick one.</p>
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		<title>By: Zenwalker</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-5/#comment-37049</link>
		<dc:creator>Zenwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see the link i referenced to you getting published here soon. 

Thanks Roy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see the link i referenced to you getting published here soon. </p>
<p>Thanks Roy.</p>
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		<title>By: stephanruby</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-4/#comment-37038</link>
		<dc:creator>stephanruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please post some more pictures/videos. 

Recovering those deleted pictures from your mobile shouldn&#039;t be a problem with something like:
http://www.snapfiles.com/opinions/Zero_Assumption_Digital_Image_Recovery/Zero_Assumption_Digital_Image_Recovery.html
Thanks

- stephanruby (on slashdot.org)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please post some more pictures/videos. </p>
<p>Recovering those deleted pictures from your mobile shouldn&#8217;t be a problem with something like:<br />
<a href="http://www.snapfiles.com/opinions/Zero_Assumption_Digital_Image_Recovery/Zero_Assumption_Digital_Image_Recovery.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.snapfiles.com/opinions/Zero_Assumption_Digital_Image_Recovery/Zero_Assumption_Digital_Image_Recovery.html</a><br />
Thanks</p>
<p>- stephanruby (on slashdot.org)</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-4/#comment-37035</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this took me by surprise and I was asleep at the time. I&#039;m surprised the site did not go down (unless it did at one stage). The response to the event of Kerala was also a surprise. We were not responsible for any of this.

The person responsible sent me this some hours ago:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Posters available from below link
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fci/images/0/00/Boycottnovell.pdf

Statement from Swathanthra Malayalam computing
http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SMC/StatementOnNCFS2008Kochi
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this took me by surprise and I was asleep at the time. I&#8217;m surprised the site did not go down (unless it did at one stage). The response to the event of Kerala was also a surprise. We were not responsible for any of this.</p>
<p>The person responsible sent me this some hours ago:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Posters available from below link<br />
<a href="http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fci/images/0/00/Boycottnovell.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fci/images/0/00/Boycottnovell.pdf</a></p>
<p>Statement from Swathanthra Malayalam computing<br />
<a href="http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SMC/StatementOnNCFS2008Kochi" rel="nofollow">http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SMC/StatementOnNCFS2008Kochi</a>
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		<title>By: JJMacey</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-4/#comment-37031</link>
		<dc:creator>JJMacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

Wow, I&#039;m surprised to see such activism regarding a  meeting. I&#039;m sure that you know that Slashdot has picked this up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Wow, I&#8217;m surprised to see such activism regarding a  meeting. I&#8217;m sure that you know that Slashdot has picked this up.</p>
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		<title>By: bobinson</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-4/#comment-37002</link>
		<dc:creator>bobinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenney, I agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenney, I agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenney</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-4/#comment-36996</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Arun said is the truth. The communists and their feeder organisations are to blame. Novell paid the money and got screwed. But now it looks like every one is afraid to even speak about the organisers and their attempts to brand the event a communist thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Arun said is the truth. The communists and their feeder organisations are to blame. Novell paid the money and got screwed. But now it looks like every one is afraid to even speak about the organisers and their attempts to brand the event a communist thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Headmonkey</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-3/#comment-36994</link>
		<dc:creator>Headmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets analyse this situation, from the real worlds viewpoint, and not that of a religious software freedom baby zealot.

Novell and/or the conference organizers, undoubtedly, rented the space to hold the conference. Its their space, to speak their voice, for however long they rented it. To blame Novell and/or the conference attendees for having the zealots thrown out, or claiming they don&#039;t have the right to have the zealots thrown out, is like saying, I can come to your rented apartment, and call your wife a whore, and your kid a dumb ass, and assert my right to free speech while doing so, without you being able to call the police and have me removed from your rented apartment.

I really wish the free software community, which I am a part of, and whos products I use and enjoy, would stop portraying themselves as lunatics in public, and spend their time improveing the quality of their code. If they feel the need to comment on source code, for gods sakes, start commenting your source code.

Free software cannot promote itself, by unleashing an armanent of negativity towards for fee or closed source companies and their products. The free software community should be minding its own business, and promoting and developing its own products, and advertiseing the virtues of its adoption and use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets analyse this situation, from the real worlds viewpoint, and not that of a religious software freedom baby zealot.</p>
<p>Novell and/or the conference organizers, undoubtedly, rented the space to hold the conference. Its their space, to speak their voice, for however long they rented it. To blame Novell and/or the conference attendees for having the zealots thrown out, or claiming they don&#8217;t have the right to have the zealots thrown out, is like saying, I can come to your rented apartment, and call your wife a whore, and your kid a dumb ass, and assert my right to free speech while doing so, without you being able to call the police and have me removed from your rented apartment.</p>
<p>I really wish the free software community, which I am a part of, and whos products I use and enjoy, would stop portraying themselves as lunatics in public, and spend their time improveing the quality of their code. If they feel the need to comment on source code, for gods sakes, start commenting your source code.</p>
<p>Free software cannot promote itself, by unleashing an armanent of negativity towards for fee or closed source companies and their products. The free software community should be minding its own business, and promoting and developing its own products, and advertiseing the virtues of its adoption and use.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-3/#comment-36990</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will silly ad hominem attacks please end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will silly ad hominem attacks please end?</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-3/#comment-36987</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &#039;Needs Sunlight&#039; guy sounds suspiciously like Slashdot&#039;s very own troll twitter, who is already whipping up a shillstorm over there:

http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1031407&amp;cid=25783351

Bad, bad sockpuppets, bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8216;Needs Sunlight&#8217; guy sounds suspiciously like Slashdot&#8217;s very own troll twitter, who is already whipping up a shillstorm over there:</p>
<p><a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1031407&amp;cid=25783351" rel="nofollow">http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1031407&amp;cid=25783351</a></p>
<p>Bad, bad sockpuppets, bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-3/#comment-36984</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needs Sunlight,

They have already &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/07/ms-open-source-xenophobia/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pretty much done that&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needs Sunlight,</p>
<p>They have already <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/07/ms-open-source-xenophobia/" rel="nofollow">pretty much done that</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Needs Sunlight</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-3/#comment-36967</link>
		<dc:creator>Needs Sunlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom: Cool.  So by your reasoning, then M$ can go around &quot;sponsoring&quot; all sorts of conferences and workshops just to be able to tell competitors to get out.  Doing that directly would violate the sneaky tactics outlined years ago by their planners, so don&#039;t expect to see M$ execs getting their hands dirty throwing groups out, that&#039;s for M$ partners like Novell or for M$ fascades like BSA and FAST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom: Cool.  So by your reasoning, then M$ can go around &#8220;sponsoring&#8221; all sorts of conferences and workshops just to be able to tell competitors to get out.  Doing that directly would violate the sneaky tactics outlined years ago by their planners, so don&#8217;t expect to see M$ execs getting their hands dirty throwing groups out, that&#8217;s for M$ partners like Novell or for M$ fascades like BSA and FAST.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McGoldrick</title>
		<link>http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/16/novell-sponsorship-critique/comment-page-2/#comment-36943</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McGoldrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;your posters are slander.&quot;

You misunderstand slander.

Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person&#039;s reputation or standing in the community.

No-one has implied that what they were saying about Novell was untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;your posters are slander.&#8221;</p>
<p>You misunderstand slander.</p>
<p>Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person&#8217;s reputation or standing in the community.</p>
<p>No-one has implied that what they were saying about Novell was untrue.</p>
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