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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: January 16th, 2009 - Part 3

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moogstraphrmm. Terrorism used a reason to kill off public wifi? http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/011509-mumb...Jan 16 21:17
schestowitzI am angered by the EDGI thing they pulledJan 16 21:17
schestowitzThe world need to be screamingJan 16 21:17
schestowitzThe journalists need to research thisJan 16 21:17
schestowitzThe news is not some MOU, which anyway should be illegal in its own rightJan 16 21:18
schestowitzIt's about Microsoft giving children cigarettesJan 16 21:18
schestowitzThe Wi-Fi gig is not new exactly. ;-)Jan 16 21:18
schestowitzThey hate everything that's not centralisedJan 16 21:18
schestowitzIt can't be censoredJan 16 21:18
moogstrapayeJan 16 21:19
schestowitzI'm sure that TERROR~1 will still have pen, paper and voice to communicate with.. ;-)Jan 16 21:19
schestowitzAllThingD...Jan 16 21:19
schestowitzI hate that blogJan 16 21:19
schestowitzBunch of Wintel PressersJan 16 21:19
schestowitzMossberg and the gang of goatsJan 16 21:19
moogstrap"EU leans towards Opera in Microsoft antitrust probe" http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/ar...  a new angle for spin?Jan 16 21:20
moogstrapyou know, double stands, blah blah evil unamerican EUJan 16 21:20
schestowitzYou can see the pro-MS bias there tooJan 16 21:20
schestowitzYuckJan 16 21:21
schestowitzSeattle P-IJan 16 21:21
schestowitzDon't worry, they go out of business right nowJan 16 21:21
schestowitzThat's all just Microsoft talking heads..Jan 16 21:21
schestowitz"Anti-American" is also a common excuseJan 16 21:21
schestowitzThe bribing criminals from Intel (with convictions) used this "Anti-American" thing tooJan 16 21:22
schestowitzWhich is actually funnyJan 16 21:22
schestowitzWhat is this thing "Americanism"?Jan 16 21:22
schestowitzHave you heard of "Norwayism"?Jan 16 21:22
moogstraphahJan 16 21:22
schestowitzAnd why is it OK to be "anti-Cuba" but not "Anti-America"?Jan 16 21:22
schestowitzIs Microsoft not a coonvicted monopolist?Jan 16 21:22
schestowitzAre Intel's proven crimes not enough to be 'anti' Intel?Jan 16 21:23
schestowitzIn the slaughtering of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi kids just "OK"?Jan 16 21:23
schestowitzThere's also this "Microsoft hater" labelJan 16 21:23
schestowitzLabels...Jan 16 21:23
schestowitzFor the hypocrites.Jan 16 21:24
moogstrapthe hegemony of the status quo. Uzbekistan torture and murder plenty of their own citizens. But then they play niceJan 16 21:24
moogstrapso they are good friendsJan 16 21:24
schestowitzPlay nice to who?Jan 16 21:25
schestowitzThe US?Jan 16 21:25
schestowitzMurder is OK, as long as it's good for those other people.Jan 16 21:25
schestowitzI'm reading the Wi-Fi thing ATM... amazing and yet so classic... proving that the government's biggest enemy is its own people.Jan 16 21:26
schestowitzThey need to be treated like kids, watched by an army of nanniesJan 16 21:26
moogstrapyeah. They have US bases all overJan 16 21:27
schestowitzI heard about Uzbekistan in that context.Jan 16 21:27
schestowitzSame in TurkeyJan 16 21:27
schestowitzMurdering Kurds was fine with the Americans... they supported it too as long as it didn't upset the US economy... they funded Saddam similarly and gave him weapons along with the British goverment back in the daysJan 16 21:28
moogstrapThere have been a bunch of ideas propositioned by US Senators over the years to start this whole internet thing all over again.Jan 16 21:28
schestowitzYes, I knowJan 16 21:28
schestowitzLessig warned about itJan 16 21:28
schestowitzThey'll wait for a dissaster and then 'redesign'Jan 16 21:29
schestowitzThen there's 'trusted' computing and BIllG's remarks on "security as lockin"Jan 16 21:29
moogstrapAfter all, if Governments knew twenty years ago what they know now, the internet wouldn't have happenedJan 16 21:29
schestowitzMany governments will support that massive new EDGI because it gives control... /over/ the people not /to/ the people... and the US controls the code, ironically enoughJan 16 21:30
schestowitzBut Microsoft always has some friends in other countries, so they won't mind giving the master key to Redmond|CIAJan 16 21:30
schestowitzAnd if they disagree, they'll get sacked (like in Kerala.. two of them)Jan 16 21:30
schestowitzIf they take it to the streets, then a military coo (coup) seems appropriateJan 16 21:31
schestowitzLike in Latin America...Jan 16 21:31
schestowitzThe Internet began from the military and academia for their needs, but now it's a little 'too big'... enabling not just the 'responsible adults' (elites) to manage information.Jan 16 21:32
moogstrapthe whole thing stinks to high heaven. "We need to lose your data to American corporations because Al Qaida paedophiles are swarming Britain and destroying our house prices!" is the theme in the popular press. It amazes me how the reaction of most people is complete antipathyJan 16 21:32
moogstrapapathy*Jan 16 21:32
schestowitzYesJan 16 21:32
schestowitzBecause they are not being informedJan 16 21:32
schestowitzPeople whom I speak to know nothing about itJan 16 21:32
schestowitzThey find some of it shocking because it's new to themJan 16 21:32
schestowitzSports and celebrities... easier to keep one's mind on. :-)Jan 16 21:33
moogstraphttp://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009... Obama is pro-SIlverlightJan 16 21:33
moogstraphttp://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41061/122/Jan 16 21:33
schestowitzI know..Jan 16 21:33
schestowitzObama is a toolJan 16 21:33
schestowitzMaybe that's what he talk to BillG about some weeks ago. j/kJan 16 21:34
schestowitzBut they do pay him a lot of moneyJan 16 21:34
moogstrapayeJan 16 21:35
moogstraphttp://news.cnet.com/8301-10805... EU regulating like it's 1999Jan 16 21:35
moogstrapThey're questioning the EU's suspicious timing. HrmmJan 16 21:35
schestowitzDamn. Lots of annoying news todayJan 16 21:36
schestowitzTiming?Jan 16 21:36
moogstrapGod knowsJan 16 21:38
moogstrapMore worm woes: http://www.scmagazineus.com/No-end-in-sight-for...Jan 16 21:38
*schestowitz does a post about itJan 16 21:40
moogstrapslightly more substantial article about the IE debacle http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/AL...Jan 16 21:43
schestowitzAlmost there.Jan 16 21:45
schestowitzOK, I'll still edit: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16/...Jan 16 21:49
moogstrapLooks goodJan 16 21:53
trmancohttp://tek.sapo.pt/noticias/negocios/microso...Jan 16 21:55
trmancohttp://translate.google.com/transl...Jan 16 21:55
trmancosee thisJan 16 21:55
trmancomore Microsoft corruption in PortugalJan 16 21:55
trmancohttp://www.microsoft.com/education...Jan 16 21:55
schestowitzI've just taken a look at what happened yesterday.Jan 16 21:56
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schestowitzJan 15 08:05:46 -christel-[Global Notice] Good Morning all, we'll be restarting two of our servers in about half an hour. niven (v4) and simak (v6) -- affected users are in the region of 2,000. We apologise for the inconvenience. Thank you for using freenode and have a good day!Jan 16 21:56
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schestowitzJan 15 08:40:34 -christel-[Global Notice] Hi again, it's 0903 and all is well. The two servers have been restarted and is linked back to the network. Thank you for your patience and have a nice day.Jan 16 21:56
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schestowitzRight after that message from  tessier my PC went into sleep... first time I had to reboot in 3 months.Jan 16 21:57
schestowitzIt's unlikely to be a coincidence.Jan 16 21:57
schestowitztrmanco: yes, it's a worldwide thingJan 16 21:57
schestowitzMicrosoft has just dumped massively.Jan 16 21:57
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16/m...Jan 16 21:57
moogstrap22:01:32 up 4 days, 22:03,  3 users,  load average: 2.39, 2.40, 2.37Jan 16 21:58
schestowitzPortugal: "memorandum of understanding"Jan 16 21:58
trmancothe problem is, that a lot a people don't wan't these stupid deals with Microsoft especially in educationJan 16 21:58
schestowitztrmanco: people should sue those responsibleJan 16 21:58
schestowitzQuebec did thiosJan 16 21:58
schestowitzIt's your right to sue them for this corruption and complain to the ECJan 16 21:59
schestowitzIf they view the EDGI antitrust material, then it's clear that it's anti-competitiveJan 16 21:59
schestowitzI wonder if all this horrible news is timed to align with layoff announcementsJan 16 21:59
schestowitzI said earlier that timing will count...Jan 16 22:00
trmancobut we "small" people, how can why deface a monopolist giant like MicrosoftJan 16 22:00
schestowitzYou can expose themJan 16 22:00
trmancoespecially in portugal that mr.josé is a MS fan boyJan 16 22:01
schestowitzThe least we can do is post the stuff in places like Groklaw and BNJan 16 22:01
trmancothe media won't expose thing against microsoftJan 16 22:01
schestowitzThis gives legal ammunition to those who can fight this corruptionJan 16 22:01
r0vertrmanco: you've also the chances to compete against them - it might sound hard.. but it is possible.Jan 16 22:02
moogstrapWSJ has more tidbits about the layoffs, but still only "early as next week"Jan 16 22:02
schestowitzNovelist hired for 'Doom 4': http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_...Jan 16 22:02
schestowitzFor a second I thought about Novell :-)Jan 16 22:02
NeonFlosshttp://www.blogpirate.org/2009/01/16/eu-beg...Jan 16 22:02
schestowitzThey should start legal action over EDGIJan 16 22:03
NeonFloss^ if you read that can uyou tell me if I mistated or left out something?Jan 16 22:03
schestowitzThey were there beforeJan 16 22:03
schestowitzThey need to kick them outJan 16 22:03
r0vertrmanco: i just won a contrat fighting against microsoft in my country to build a hugh intranet in the national government.Jan 16 22:03
trmancoin portugal your new born company will die if you don't have good management, if you go against microfoot you are criticized very hardJan 16 22:03
schestowitzOut of most nations.. what they do is illegal dumping using overseas lackies who don't give a blip about educationJan 16 22:03
trmancor0ver, in europe ?Jan 16 22:04
moogstrapMS/Yahoo deal doubtful for now http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12...Jan 16 22:04
schestowitzBN gets decent traffic today and I expect people to explore EDGI there.Jan 16 22:04
schestowitzIf people at least point them in  the right direction...Jan 16 22:04
r0vertrmanco: I live in Argentina,although i work with many europeans companies, some of them are in obooe and other organizations.Jan 16 22:05
trmancocoolJan 16 22:06
r0vertrmanco: if it is possible to win them in a underdeveloped country... in europe, where you've a most active and organized private sector in floss.. you should be able.Jan 16 22:06
r0verEducational and government are usually have problems with big companies, floss besides the control over the source code have a local impact, and that's very important for politiciansJan 16 22:07
trmancoI don't think soJan 16 22:07
schestowitzIt all comes at a good time because of the new Microsoft deal in 72,000 schools: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16...Jan 16 22:08
r0vertrmanco: i do think... i was living in both places. In central countries, rules are clearer, corruption is harder...Jan 16 22:08
trmancoin underdeveloped countries the switch to FOSS is easier than in a developed country, IMO, thus easier to kick microfoot in the arseJan 16 22:09
trmancomost people here go with the flowJan 16 22:09
trmancochanges are hardJan 16 22:09
schestowitzWho makes the flow?Jan 16 22:10
schestowitzIt's Microsoft's training of teachers and adopting of 'young people'Jan 16 22:10
schestowitzIt preys on corruptionJan 16 22:10
moogstrapSHowing off Linux in countries' native languages where there isn't so much MS support is always good, too. Showing off a Tagalog Ubuntu to some of my  Filipino colleagues had its desired effectJan 16 22:12
trmancoschestowitz, Microsoft and Portugal's lousy governmentJan 16 22:12
schestowitzYes, it takes two to tangoJan 16 22:12
schestowitzLawyers in govt. and some lawyers firm (+marketing)Jan 16 22:12
schestowitzHere's a guess.Jan 16 22:13
r0vertrmanco: are you from portugal?Jan 16 22:13
schestowitzMicrosoft had this thing cooking for a long whileJan 16 22:13
trmancor0ver, yesJan 16 22:13
schestowitzIt wanted to use it to divert attention away from the layoffs and bad resultsJan 16 22:14
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r0vertrmanco: aren't the educators connected with people in extremadura or andalucia ?Jan 16 22:14
schestowitzNext week when it does badly it'll tell investors about this EDGI bundle.Jan 16 22:14
r0vertrmanco: they're working hard there with linux and floss in schoolsJan 16 22:14
trmancor0ver, yes they work hard, but there is a problem, MicrosoftJan 16 22:14
MinceRhttp://flickr.com/photos/54967518@N00...Jan 16 22:15
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trmancor0ver, if they push FLOSS onto any type of computer, they will ignore/uninstall and installed microsoft software, sometimes piratedJan 16 22:15
trmancoinstall*Jan 16 22:15
tessier_"The OS wars are largely over. Let's decide on a common platform. Therefore, Linux makes sense." - Grady Booch at IBM.Jan 16 22:16
tessier_IBM is so weird about FLOSS.Jan 16 22:16
r0vertrmanco: the challenge is clear then, you've to be better than them :)Jan 16 22:16
schestowitzIBM and FLOSS??Jan 16 22:16
tessier_They invest in Linux, do lots of kernel development, give us JFS, etc. etc. Yet they are patent bullies and still push a lot of closed source stuff.Jan 16 22:16
schestowitzIBM and LeeenuxJan 16 22:16
r0vertrmanco: in my country there are an initiative similar as lugs but for teachersJan 16 22:16
tessier_They gave us Eclipse also.Jan 16 22:16
schestowitzI knowJan 16 22:16
tessier_That isn't Linux. That is FLOSS.Jan 16 22:16
schestowitzI was going to mention that nextJan 16 22:17
r0vertrmanco: and it is not focused just on floss, but the knowledge around shcool teachersJan 16 22:17
schestowitzMinceR: *LOL*Jan 16 22:17
r0vertrmanco: it works... and since it share the values of free software, it's natural from them to adopt it thenJan 16 22:17
trmancorecently, the e-iniciativas programs is offering a laptop with 6 GB ram, a good graphics card and cpu (all intel btw) for 150€, it comes with a local linux distro installed deafultJan 16 22:17
schestowitzIBM censored my comment, I thinkJan 16 22:17
schestowitzI stuck it to them re patents.Jan 16 22:18
schestowitzI was a little rude only in the sense that I said something like "so you take knowledge and sell it back for good feel and PR"Jan 16 22:18
trmancomost of the people who buy them will format the hardrive and install Windows on it just to play games, conclusion: the intention was good but mission failedJan 16 22:18
trmancor0ver, I do my job to drive FOSS adoptionJan 16 22:19
trmancoschestowitz, send it againJan 16 22:19
trmanco:-PJan 16 22:19
schestowitzI don't have a copyJan 16 22:19
r0vertrmanco: evaluate, find lessons to learn, plan for next time, and move forward. The worst enemy is don't moving forward.Jan 16 22:19
schestowitzAll comments are moderatedJan 16 22:20
schestowitzBut the IBMers are picky about what's visibleJan 16 22:20
r0vertrmanco: i am sure of it. But you're not alone :DJan 16 22:20
schestowitzThey are like masturbating kings who only let praise about them become visible.Jan 16 22:20
trmancor0ver, yes I knowJan 16 22:20
trmancoLOLJan 16 22:21
trmancomasturbating monkeys?Jan 16 22:21
schestowitzAt least they don't behead critics.Jan 16 22:21
schestowitztrmanco: no, IBM doesn't do BSDJan 16 22:21
trmancowanking walruses?Jan 16 22:21
trmancomehJan 16 22:21
schestowitzThat's DiggJan 16 22:22
schestowitzhttp://flickr.com/photos/54967518@N00/308...Jan 16 22:22
schestowitzIn this case, it seems like "mother-shagging Reddit lovers"Jan 16 22:22
trmancoLOLJan 16 22:23
schestowitzWhy Linux is superior to windows for non-techies < http://www.theothersolution.nl/blog6.php/... >Jan 16 22:24
schestowitzhttp://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provid... convertible debt??Jan 16 22:26
schestowitzMoves on top of Red Hat.. COO left, another man joins..  http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?nd... http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/s...Jan 16 22:27
moogstrapMicrsoft bootcamp? http://wake.mync.com/site/wake/news|Sports|Lifestyl...Jan 16 22:28
moogstrapoh. not very excitingJan 16 22:30
moogstrapcoffetimeJan 16 22:31
*moogstrap is now known as moogcoffeeJan 16 22:31
*moogcoffee is now known as moogstrapJan 16 22:37
moogstrapHow does one set up xchat or irssi to connect through a really hateful http-proxy  that also hates tunelling? This chat applet gives me a headacheJan 16 22:37
moogstrapA Times article re antitrust: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busin...Jan 16 22:39
moogstrapThe Register's latest worm report: http://www.theregister.co.uk/...Jan 16 22:40
moogstrapAother one with a super scary BSOD image: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/v...Jan 16 22:41
trmancohttp://www.gnu.org/music/free-s...Jan 16 22:41
schestowitzmoogstrap: thanks for the linkJan 16 22:43
schestowitzI'm about to release another quick posyJan 16 22:44
schestowitz10 million is more than 1% of the world's PCsJan 16 22:44
schestowitzBut about 40% were already zombies back in AprilJan 16 22:44
moogstrapThis is getting messyJan 16 22:46
schestowitzHelp me proofread :-)Jan 16 22:48
moogstrapon my last voyage, my ship was virused. It's no joke. Satellite net connectiopns cost a fortune,. It got into the nav computer too.  We had to shut the whole lot down,.Jan 16 22:48
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/...Jan 16 22:48
moogstrapAfter that terribly-typed sentence? sureJan 16 22:48
moogstrapHaha. I hadn't seen the Ballmer PhotoshopsJan 16 22:49
schestowitzcj posted this here.Jan 16 22:51
schestowitzUsing it to insult us.Jan 16 22:51
moogstrapHave you considered making the conficker stuff have its own separate update?Jan 16 22:55
moogstraphttp://www.pcworld.com/article/157876/protectin... "Install Unix" would make a great first postJan 16 22:56
schestowitzmoogstrap: I will do thatJan 16 22:57
schestowitzSince you think it's necessary to capitalise on this shot-in-footJan 16 22:57
schestowitzI just think it's covered so widely so reader would be like, "oh, another one about it...'Jan 16 22:57
schestowitzmoogstrap: ha. I saw it in twitterJan 16 22:57
schestowitzI follow just one person there (Moody)Jan 16 22:58
moogstraphrmm. I supposeJan 16 22:58
schestowitzI saw  a message saying: "@SOMENAME: install Ubuntu"Jan 16 22:58
schestowitzThat was 10 minutes agoJan 16 22:58
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schestowitzI imagine that the context was confickerJan 16 22:58
schestowitzMicrosoft In Still More Antitrust Trouble < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews... > Jan 16 22:59
moogstrapGraun article of the same: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/...Jan 16 23:01
schestowitzPC sales are stagnating.. Circuit City to Liquidate Remaining Stores < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157842/cir... >Jan 16 23:02
schestowitz"/16/microsoft-microsoft"??Jan 16 23:02
schestowitz"Malkovic Malkovic"Jan 16 23:02
schestowitzNice photo of Ballmer. So will he be sent to another deposition (one in Dec 08)Jan 16 23:03
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moogstrapOpera's response to the antitrust: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805...Jan 16 23:04
schestowitzThey're doing it again.. Microsoft Uses Mac In PC-Only App Advertisement  < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157831/... >Jan 16 23:06
schestowitzYuck. Ina Friedshill, no thanks...Jan 16 23:07
moogstraphah. She's been a very buss woman todayJan 16 23:08
moogstrapbusyJan 16 23:08
moogstraphttp://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/3560/o... has a good comment: "Interesting that it’s so easy for an anti-Linux story to get posted here. When was the last time there was a story about how no Linux PCs are affected by viruses like the one in the news today? Nothing like Microsoft advertising dollars to help with editorial decisions, huh?"Jan 16 23:09
schestowitzHehe.Jan 16 23:10
schestowitzYes, that's how the press is runJan 16 23:10
schestowitzThere's no money in advocating FOSS, said some TechRepublic lackey who promotes Mono/.NETJan 16 23:10
schestowitzThe press needs to just die more quickly.Jan 16 23:10
schestowitzThe old 'trade' press represent centralization and there is self-censorshipJan 16 23:11
schestowitzPeople know there are certain things they are not allowed to write or that they risk they careers if they write about them...Jan 16 23:11
moogstrapthe virus is good to capitalise on simply because Linux is immune. I've seen a few pro-Linux type letters in the Guardian and Independent, published right there in print.  The more people speak up, the more the media will have to bend]Jan 16 23:11
moogstrap(not about the worm: they were in response to the police's hacking plans)Jan 16 23:12
schestowitzcracking?Jan 16 23:13
moogstrapwhoops. SorryJan 16 23:13
schestowitz:-)Jan 16 23:13
moogstrapbeing a hacker myself, you'd think I would have been immune to thatJan 16 23:13
moogstrapFreudian slap(!) or indoctrination? who knowsJan 16 23:14
schestowitz*LOL*Jan 16 23:14
schestowitzI'm seeing the MS blogsJan 16 23:14
schestowitzHow they spinJan 16 23:14
schestowitzIt's not journalism, it's advertising.Jan 16 23:14
schestowitzWe in the FOSS world can't advertise for companies because there's no gravity of money or an ecosystemJan 16 23:14
trmancoI broke redditJan 16 23:15
schestowitzCracker is left to be associated with drugs.Jan 16 23:15
trmanco:(Jan 16 23:15
schestowitzReddit is nice to BN... we make some FPs there.Jan 16 23:15
schestowitzThis month, on average, we get about 225,000 hits/dayJan 16 23:16
schestowitzNot many commens though.Jan 16 23:16
schestowitzhttp://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/colum... : good for people who boot frequently.Jan 16 23:17
moogstrapHrrm. I'm installing elive on a separate partition later. A pretty grub might be niceJan 16 23:18
schestowitzYes, ELive too is niceJan 16 23:21
schestowitzWait, I'll grab a vidJan 16 23:21
moogstrapworm woes: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix...Jan 16 23:21
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/upl...Jan 16 23:22
schestowitzMade by [H]omer (from this channel)Jan 16 23:22
schestowitzI'll do a quick postJan 16 23:22
schestowitz"7 Ways To Ruin A Technological Revolution" + 'stuff'Jan 16 23:22
moogstrapoh, coolJan 16 23:22
moogstrapThe book is cc'd and pretty in-depth. sheesh I sound like a stealth-marketerJan 16 23:23
moogstrapcool vidJan 16 23:24
moogstraphttp://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/30/ja... *stealth*Jan 16 23:25
*schestowitz needs just 1 minutesJan 16 23:25
moogstrapis this new? I don't think I've seen this before http://www.pcworld.com/article/157881/micro...Jan 16 23:29
schestowitzOK done http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01...Jan 16 23:29
schestowitzIt seems newJan 16 23:29
schestowitzComment just added by "Microsoft Consultant" http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/08/how-t...Jan 16 23:30
moogstrap"everything is pure conjecture" eh?Jan 16 23:31
schestowitzWhere from (quote)?Jan 16 23:32
schestowitzOh, the consultant..Jan 16 23:32
moogstrapayeJan 16 23:32
schestowitzWe've had some MS fiends apologizingJan 16 23:33
schestowitzWe show them the mirror (which doesn't exist in Remond, unlike Kool-Aid)Jan 16 23:33
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/1... "I am trying to change the error of my ways. I trust that you will agree that even the most hardened sinner can be redeemed."Jan 16 23:34
moogstrapvery repentantJan 16 23:35
MinceRdoesn't seem too repentantJan 16 23:36
schestowitzDe Icaza reads us every dayJan 16 23:36
schestowitzHe will hopefully come out of the closet and admit he f*ed upJan 16 23:36
MinceRhe should move away from m$ and live and shed light upon the evils m$ has committed and is still committingJan 16 23:36
moogstrapThe drugs company stuff is pretty scary.Jan 16 23:37
schestowitzNow he wants to make a book out of his crimesJan 16 23:37
moogstraphrmmJan 16 23:37
schestowitzAs in, "sorry I did all that, now I want to become famous writing about what I saw in "MSAbu Gharib"Jan 16 23:37
moogstraphahJan 16 23:38
schestowitzhttp://www.prwatch.org/node/8140 (Eli Lilly Finally Pays for Drug Marketing Abuses)Jan 16 23:38
schestowitzI am getting a lot more familiar with the scale of "PR" (brainwashing)Jan 16 23:39
schestowitzThere is so much hardwiring but people are taught to accept it as transparent.Jan 16 23:39
schestowitz"Today we'll study 'computers' (Office GUIs)... then we'll study some bible (the chronicles of genocide and crazy miracles)... then we'll sing the anthem to our beloved leaders who give mommy and daddy lots of oil..."Jan 16 23:40
schestowitz"In a blog post, F-Secure security researchers report that the number of machines infected by the Downadup worm has skyrocketed from roughly 2.4 million to over 8.9 million in the last four days alone." < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157877/... > Lost productivity to manyJan 16 23:41
schestowitz"Downadup -- which also goes by the name "Conficker" -- exploits a bug in the Windows Server service used by Windows 2000, XP, Vista, Server 2003 and Server 2008. " Web servers too..Jan 16 23:42
moogstrapI took ICT when I did my A-Levels. After three months I quit. We had to make an Access programme.  That was it. For a higher-learning computing course. I dumped the course and did English Lit insteadJan 16 23:44
moogstrapthe server side means that nobody will ever know just how many PCs have been infectedJan 16 23:45
schestowitzYupJan 16 23:46
schestowitzIt'll also spread moreJan 16 23:46
schestowitzMicrosoft MorrisJan 16 23:46
moogstrapI'm not a network savvy type. How about networks whose connections share a generic http proxy IP? surely analysts would see just the one address? There are thousands of computers on our networkJan 16 23:48
schestowitzYes, surely.Jan 16 23:51
schestowitzI can imagine that MS-EDGI has the press flooded at the moment.Jan 16 23:52
schestowitzThis prevents people from covering the security menace and layoffs.Jan 16 23:52
schestowitzConficker Worm Attack Getting Worse: Here's How to Protect Yourself < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157877/w... > Nuthin' 'bout *NIXJan 16 23:53
moogstrapthe antitrust stuff at least will get some fairly broad coverage, at least in the business pagesJan 16 23:54
moogstraplow figures for the UK's infection rate seem surprisingly lowJan 16 23:55
moogstrapthe*Jan 16 23:55
schestowitzReason?Jan 16 23:56
schestowitzFOSS adoption is abysmal here, as well.Jan 16 23:56
moogstrapI don't knowJan 16 23:56
schestowitzHaha. Bless him.. http://blogs.computerworld.com/its_time_...Jan 16 23:57
schestowitzPoliticians proosed this in 2007Jan 16 23:57
schestowitzLike driving licences... for the Internet.. but how would FOSS be treated though?Jan 16 23:57
schestowitzI have s*loads of links about this broad sebateJan 16 23:58
schestowitz*debateJan 16 23:58
schestowitzWhy I Like USB Flash Drives < http://codingexperiments.com/why-i... >Jan 16 23:58

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