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01.21.09

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: January 20th, 2009 – Part 2

Posted in IRC Logs at 6:37 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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seller_liar seller_liar: I will folow a pattern Jan 20 16:38
seller_liar schestowitz: I will follow a pattern Jan 20 16:39
seller_liar schestowitz: Shill Name Jan 20 16:39
seller_liar schestowitz: Microturf page Jan 20 16:39
seller_liar schestowitz: Simple description Jan 20 16:39
seller_liar schestowitz: Evidences Jan 20 16:39
schestowitz That’ll be good Jan 20 16:39
schestowitz Wikimedia can do tables too Jan 20 16:39
schestowitz Let me check Jan 20 16:40
seller_liar schestowitz: No , I will change the patter Jan 20 16:42
seller_liar schestowitz: Shill name – (linked with personal page) Jan 20 16:42
seller_liar schestowitz: Simple description Jan 20 16:42
seller_liar schestowitz: Microtuft page and other links Jan 20 16:43
schestowitz Belkin President Disavows Fake User Review Offers < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157939/belk… > Jan 20 16:43
schestowitz I’m not sure if they can be believed Jan 20 16:43
schestowitz seller_liar: thanks a lot for this. Jan 20 16:43
schestowitz We’ll improve it over time. Jan 20 16:43
seller_liar schestowitz: You ‘re welcome Jan 20 16:44
seller_liar schestowitz: please put restricted control over these pages because m$ shills can attack someday Jan 20 16:45
schestowitz I’m editing the index Jan 20 16:45
schestowitz seller_liar: it might become sub-sonly when it begins being vandalised Jan 20 16:46
schestowitz These pages are  not _yet_ public Jan 20 16:46
seller_liar schestowitz: if possible ,update  to gnu fdl 1.3 Jan 20 16:46
schestowitz The other wikis I have in other domains get vandalised so I locked them Jan 20 16:46
seller_liar schestowitz: ok Jan 20 16:46
schestowitz Done. Jan 20 16:47
schestowitz 1. Jan 20 16:47
schestowitz 1.3 Jan 20 16:47
seller_liar schestowitz: thanks! Jan 20 16:47
schestowitz You can grab anything you like Jan 20 16:48
schestowitz The more people are made aware, the better Jan 20 16:48
schestowitz Most of the Wiki is currently a workspace to organise evidence of Microsoft’s crimes. Jan 20 16:48
schestowitz it’ll increasingly serve also as an index to BN posts (about 5400 of them) Jan 20 16:48
schestowitz + about 10000 antitrust exhibits Jan 20 16:49
seller_liar schestowitz: the wiki stores all differences? Jan 20 16:52
schestowitz We’ve just made the front page of Linux Today Jan 20 17:00
schestowitz Lots of people find out the Truth about the Gartner Group Jan 20 17:00
schestowitz seller_liar: yes, everything you put it Jan 20 17:00
seller_liar schestowitz: Finally , this is very good ,ethics in action! Jan 20 17:01
schestowitz That’s the beauty of the Wikis Jan 20 17:01
schestowitz We had 13000 page views in the p[ast 12 hours Jan 20 17:01
seller_liar schestowitz: in m$ shill list put only boycottnovell links  ? Jan 20 17:01
seller_liar schestowitz: for example Jan 20 17:01
schestowitz There is a known Microsoft shills there. Jan 20 17:02
seller_liar schestowitz: Ms shill name (-Personal page) Jan 20 17:02
schestowitz he’s trying to attack the evidence. Jan 20 17:02
seller_liar schestowitz: Simples description Jan 20 17:02
seller_liar schestowitz: Boycottnovell evidence Jan 20 17:02
schestowitz Some Munchkins that has harassed Linux Today for /years/ Jan 20 17:02
seller_liar schestowitz: and microturf page Jan 20 17:02
schestowitz They used to censor him Jan 20 17:02
schestowitz seller_liar: yes, that sounds very reasonable Jan 20 17:02
schestowitz ‘Finished’ work from the Wiki we can later publish for big(ger) attention Jan 20 17:03
seller_liar schestowitz: Then , the standard will be: Jan 20 17:03
schestowitz I have some more Comes antitrust items coming. Jan 20 17:03
seller_liar Msshill name (link to personal page) Jan 20 17:03
seller_liar simple description Jan 20 17:03
seller_liar microturf page Jan 20 17:03
seller_liar boycottnovell evidences Jan 20 17:03
schestowitz Windows is winning: http://feeds.sfgate.com/click.phd… Jan 20 17:03
schestowitz It spreads. Jan 20 17:03
schestowitz seller_liar: better to link to evidence we have. Jan 20 17:04
schestowitz Like sample of work or antitrust E-mails. Jan 20 17:04
schestowitz In Enderle’s case for example we have some ‘leaked’ E-mails between him and the MS lackeys Jan 20 17:04
schestowitz So that’s a major smoking gun that seals the deal… nothing to do with biases in his writings. Jan 20 17:04
seller_liar schestowitz: wikileaks have some info too Jan 20 17:05
schestowitz I’ll add a page for the UK Jan 20 17:05
schestowitz I wants to add some people from the British press Jan 20 17:05
seller_liar schestowitz: good Jan 20 17:05
schestowitz Buddies of MS.. having meals together Jan 20 17:05
seller_liar schestowitz: Yes , UK have deep conexions with m$ sometimes Jan 20 17:06
seller_liar schestowitz: It’s possible to put the country flag in front of name? Jan 20 17:07
seller_liar schestowitz: Oh no, forgot it Jan 20 17:07
seller_liar schestowitz: I thinks it ‘s better to use the current model Jan 20 17:08
schestowitz Which one? Jan 20 17:10
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.p… Jan 20 17:11
schestowitz Don’t worry too much about layout. It’s work in progress. Jan 20 17:11
seller_liar schestowitz: Organize m$ shill acording to countries Jan 20 17:11
seller_liar schestowitz: Ok Jan 20 17:11
schestowitz seller_liar: yes Jan 20 17:11
schestowitz AmericanDream(C) bursts: Acer Gives Warning < http://hp.sys-con.com/node/812127 > Jan 20 17:11
schestowitz IBM.. Jan 20 17:25
schestowitz What an arrogant bunch.. Jan 20 17:25
schestowitz I’ve just told their VP: “I express my opinion; you disagree and censor me, and that’s just not fair.” Jan 20 17:25
seller_liar schestowitz: Ibm buys knowledge Jan 20 17:26
schestowitz Yes, that’s my criticism Jan 20 17:26
seller_liar schestowitz: ibm taticts are : Jan 20 17:26
seller_liar schestowitz: start some stupid and obvious research Jan 20 17:26
schestowitz He doesn’t want people to see opinions against it Jan 20 17:26
schestowitz So he just mailed me Jan 20 17:26
seller_liar schestowitz: patent the Jan 20 17:26
schestowitz “Give me a break!” says the subject line Jan 20 17:26
seller_liar schestowitz: patent the “invention” Jan 20 17:26
seller_liar schestowitz: HAHA Jan 20 17:26
schestowitz Their other employees send mails too. Jan 20 17:26
seller_liar schestowitz: Attacking you? Jan 20 17:27
schestowitz They want people to suck up to their precious ‘IP; Jan 20 17:27
schestowitz Given the quality of some IBM patents, they should be ashamed of themselves Jan 20 17:27
schestowitz Yes Jan 20 17:27
schestowitz VP even… vice president Jan 20 17:27
seller_liar schestowitz: Ibm have a lot of money ,and buys a lot of knowledge Jan 20 17:27
seller_liar schestowitz: Because this I don like big corporations Jan 20 17:28
seller_liar schestowitz: All big corporations tries to monopolise everything Jan 20 17:28
schestowitz His censorship is utterly stupid Jan 20 17:28
schestowitz I’ve just got more mail, re: wikipedia Jan 20 17:28
schestowitz “Their repeated attempts to revise history shows up Wiki as a not too reliable source, maybe shaming them into corrective action” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced… Jan 20 17:28
schestowitz As you know, we had a big post about it in BN Jan 20 17:28
schestowitz Microsoft’s revisionists in Wiipedia Jan 20 17:28
seller_liar schestowitz: I know ,about this Jan 20 17:28
seller_liar schestowitz: Jimmy hughh Jan 20 17:28
schestowitz Yes Jan 20 17:29
schestowitz Another person though Jan 20 17:29
seller_liar schestowitz: Post on boycottnovell wiki Jan 20 17:29
schestowitz He was just part of the editing group Jan 20 17:29
schestowitz Some guy with a pseudonym removed it Jan 20 17:29
schestowitz seller_liar: I will Jan 20 17:29
schestowitz I have lots more to add to it.. yet Jan 20 17:29
seller_liar schestowitz: Can you give a list name? I will put in m$ shill lis Jan 20 17:29
seller_liar *list Jan 20 17:29
schestowitz As for IBM, I can’t help thinking about the ‘masturbating moneys’ remark from Linus Jan 20 17:29
schestowitz IBM is pro-software patents Jan 20 17:30
schestowitz Say something against it and they get nervous Jan 20 17:30
seller_liar schestowitz: Of course, Ibm puts 8 or 10 patents everyday Jan 20 17:30
schestowitz In BN we censor NO comment. Jan 20 17:30
schestowitz Wow! 8 patents… how… INN-OVA-TIVE Jan 20 17:30
schestowitz When I patent typing on keyboard while using mouse? Jan 20 17:30
schestowitz Or one-click shopping? Has someone ‘owned’ it yet? Jan 20 17:31
schestowitz http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/0… Jan 20 17:31
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schestowitz I apologised for the impulsive comment either way. IBM’s ‘friend’ from the north west (Microsoft) has just found someone to put money in: http://boycottnovell.com/20… Jan 20 17:34
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seller_liar schestowitz: IBM likes economical crisis Jan 20 17:39
seller_liar schestowitz: Because it absorbs all market and transforms in a big monopoly Jan 20 17:39
schestowitz Yes, I know Jan 20 17:40
schestowitz Sweepup time Jan 20 17:40
schestowitz Many people also run to Google’s SaaS because this jail is a short-term saving opportunity Jan 20 17:41
schestowitz “APPLE Messiah Steve Jobs has been too sick to work for his toy-making company, but is apparently well enough to work for another Mickey Mouse outfit. Jobs has applied for re-election on the board of Disney.” <  http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new… > Jan 20 17:42
schestowitz http://www.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/s… They have already fired 100,000 in this company Jan 20 17:43
schestowitz Speaking o Big Blur[sic]:  Skype joins hands with IBM < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/n… > Jan 20 17:44
schestowitz Microsoft drone pings BN: http://idippedut.dk/post/2009/01/20/W… Jan 20 17:46
schestowitz This reminds me to add him to ‘poison pen’ list Jan 20 17:46
*schestowitz added two people. Jan 20 17:47
seller_liar IBM is not big blue , is the nazi big beast Jan 20 17:48
schestowitz Ha! Jan 20 17:48
schestowitz Belkin busted after all. Jan 20 17:48
schestowitz “A bloke, possibly called Mark Bayard who, funnily enough, turned out to be a Belkin emplyee, posted the request on Amazon’s Mechanical Turk web  site. He was rumbled by the Daily Background.” < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/499… > Jan 20 17:48
schestowitz The CEO denies it all… makes him look like a liar and jerk Jan 20 17:49
schestowitz This also violates EU laws, so they can be sued Jan 20 17:49
schestowitz Windows kills: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01… Jan 20 17:50
seller_liar schestowitz: this is the cause of lack of ethics in society Jan 20 17:51
schestowitz They need to release fast for investors. Jan 20 17:51
seller_liar schestowitz: people don t worry about software which hospital uses Jan 20 17:51
schestowitz Never mind if it’s easy to hijack. What matter is that people might pay Jan 20 17:51
schestowitz Sure, they assume the hospital is liable Jan 20 17:52
trmanco LOL Jan 20 17:52
trmanco Moonlight 1.0 is out Jan 20 17:52
schestowitz If you due there because the system is down and there’s no surgery, then, welll. too bad Jan 20 17:52
trmanco just in time for the Obama thingy ? Jan 20 17:52
schestowitz It’s a “computer problem”.. not “Windows problem” Jan 20 17:52
schestowitz Obama spoke about electronic records last night Jan 20 17:52
schestowitz Given the mess that’s Windows-based healthcare in the US, this might be a mistake Jan 20 17:53
schestowitz Paper is more reliable then Wintendo machines for dectors Jan 20 17:53
schestowitz They also leak out patient databases. Jan 20 17:53
schestowitz Tomorrow I’ll post something approp. about this Jan 20 17:54
trmanco I jusr patched my 2.6.28 kernel to 2.6.28.1 ar schools today Jan 20 17:54
seller_liar schestowitz: the sad thing is people does not do nothing Jan 20 17:54
schestowitz Allchin et al talk about the Swiss Cheese that’s Windows… BUT not in pubilic. Jan 20 17:54
trmanco just* at* Jan 20 17:54
trmanco school* Jan 20 17:54
schestowitz Why patch manually? Jan 20 17:54
trmanco I tuned my config file a little bit more Jan 20 17:54
schestowitz WTF? Jan 20 17:54
schestowitz You hax0r Jan 20 17:54
trmanco still have some errors but it boots Jan 20 17:55
trmanco gem isn’t working at full on the i945 intel card Jan 20 17:55
schestowitz Another goodbye to bubbles: Empire Direct goes titsup < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/… > Jan 20 17:55
trmanco but you can see a good graphic improvement Jan 20 17:55
seller_liar trmanco: hey trmanco Jan 20 17:56
schestowitz Not many computer businesses will survive this year, esp. consumer electronics and all that, as opposes to services Jan 20 17:56
seller_liar trmanco: can you update octaiver matt profile? Jan 20 17:56
trmanco schestowitz, I like doing it my way, It’s cool, and you have your own custom kernel Jan 20 17:56
trmanco I started compiling my own kernel at 2.6.28 Jan 20 17:56
schestowitz Whoa Jan 20 17:57
schestowitz The Belkin CEO lied Jan 20 17:57
schestowitz This is priceless. Jan 20 17:57
trmanco so I’m a newbie at kernel compiling, but I can get it to minimally function correctly Jan 20 17:57
schestowitz Belkin boss ‘extremely sorry’ for cash-for-good-reviews plan < http://www.reghardware.co.uk/… > Jan 20 17:57
trmanco seller_liar, that troll Jan 20 17:57
schestowitz Earlier he denied all the allegations Jan 20 17:57
trmanco don’t feed crap Jan 20 17:57
schestowitz They should be sued Jan 20 17:57
schestowitz Who would sue them though? Jan 20 17:57
schestowitz “According to an open letter from Belkin big cheese Mark Reynoso, the “unethical practice” was conducted by “one of our employees”, who offered cash in exchange for good reviews.” Jan 20 17:58
seller_liar trmanco: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.p… Jan 20 17:58
seller_liar trmanco: please look and update octaiver profile Jan 20 17:58
schestowitz Microsoft must be doing this too… and many other companies too Jan 20 17:58
schestowitz Can’t trust reviews on the Web. Jan 20 17:58
trmanco LOL Jan 20 17:58
schestowitz In Google Groips, my profile got rating-spammed too Jan 20 17:58
trmanco meh Jan 20 18:00
seller_liar trmanco: put the link site of octaier in wiki Jan 20 18:01
seller_liar trmanco: I don t remember Jan 20 18:01
trmanco seller_liar, neither do I, but I can look for it, just wait until I finish reading COLA Jan 20 18:02
seller_liar trmanco: please cite the octaiver homepage here Jan 20 18:04
seller_liar schestowitz: I have forgot the homepage link Jan 20 18:05
trmanco yep, I’ll paste that crap here Jan 20 18:05
seller_liar trmanco: thanks! Jan 20 18:05
trmanco It is running on Windows+IIs Jan 20 18:05
seller_liar trmanco: probably Jan 20 18:05
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?… Jan 20 18:06
trmanco seller_liar, it really is, I checked Jan 20 18:06
seller_liar trmanco: please give me the link Jan 20 18:10
trmanco wait Jan 20 18:11
trmanco seller_liar, you sure are anxious Jan 20 18:11
seller_liar trmanco: ok Jan 20 18:11
seller_liar trmanco: no I’m not , I was trying to put a list of bra/pt  trolls Jan 20 18:11
trmanco microturfs has com PT trolls Jan 20 18:12
schestowitz FULLSix? Jan 20 18:13
trmanco http://www.microturfs.org/ Jan 20 18:13
schestowitz FullSIX? Jan 20 18:13
trmanco what is that? Jan 20 18:14
trmanco seller_liar, found it http://www.fanboysdelinux.hpg.com.br/ Jan 20 18:15
seller_liar trmanco: thanks! Jan 20 18:15
trmanco seller_liar, there is another one Jan 20 18:17
seller_liar trmanco: tell me Jan 20 18:17
trmanco livebetas (dot) com Jan 20 18:17
schestowitz http://www.groklaw.net/ ” Docket Update: New Bankruptcy Filings – UPDATED – AutoZone, Too – Members Only” Jan 20 18:18
trmanco he is not just anti linux Jan 20 18:18
schestowitz Is PJ reluctant to show SCO work in public now? Jan 20 18:18
trmanco he doesn’t like macs too Jan 20 18:18
schestowitz Could be a Luddite or a henchman. Jan 20 18:19
trmanco microsoft fanboy Jan 20 18:21
trmanco he is “all about microfoot”, he even has a technet sub Jan 20 18:21
seller_liar trmanco: livebetas is a phising site Jan 20 18:21
trmanco phising? Jan 20 18:21
seller_liar trmanco: the link is correct? Jan 20 18:21
trmanco wait Jan 20 18:22
seller_liar trmanco: try livebetas.com Jan 20 18:22
trmanco seller_liar, .net Jan 20 18:22
trmanco sorry Jan 20 18:22
trmanco my mistake Jan 20 18:22
seller_liar trmanco: ok Jan 20 18:22
seller_liar trmanco: Are there some evidence of this site attacking gnu linux? Jan 20 18:25
seller_liar trmanco: It’s a heavy pro ms , but I need some evidence of attacking linux Jan 20 18:25
trmanco seller_liar, 1 sec Jan 20 18:26
seller_liar trmanco: ok Jan 20 18:27
schestowitz Caught AstroTurfing: Bad Belkin Bayard Business.. < http://lxer.com/module/newswi… > Jan 20 18:28
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schestowitz http://www.thedailybackground.com/2009/01/1… Jan 20 18:50
schestowitz Capital~1 B0rkeden Jan 20 18:50
schestowitz Disappointed Belkin customer can band up and sue the company now for faking status. Jan 20 18:51
schestowitz What Microsoft fans say about imminent layoffs: http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Town_Ha… http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1825 Jan 20 18:58
benJIman http://www.jprl.com/Blog/archive/developm… Jan 20 19:03
schestowitz http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/micro… Jan 20 19:19
schestowitz http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/… ( Fresh warning on China bird flu) Jan 20 19:29
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jose__ schestowitz.. that thing i wrote yesterday doesn’t make sense to me this morning.. Jan 20 19:35
jose__ this should be better.. for now.. Jan 20 19:35
jose__ http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.p… Jan 20 19:35
schestowitz Thanks. Jan 20 19:35
schestowitz I wondered about this. Jan 20 19:35
schestowitz I was just about the leave (gym closes at 10), but I’m reading this quickly. Jan 20 19:36
jose__ let me know if you think you can tell what the point of the comment is Jan 20 19:36
schestowitz OK Jan 20 19:37
trmanco http://www.heise-online.co.uk/securi… Jan 20 19:37
schestowitz I wonder what it would be liked had Microsoft and Novell merged in 2992 Jan 20 19:37
schestowitz They almost did. Jan 20 19:37
schestowitz jose__: group these comments and send them to me, please Jan 20 19:38
trmanco 2992? Jan 20 19:38
jose__ 1992 Jan 20 19:38
schestowitz 1992 Jan 20 19:38
trmanco ok Jan 20 19:38
schestowitz bbl Jan 20 19:38
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-christel-[Global Notice] Hi all, it would appear one of our sponsors are having some issues with their connectivity. As a result we’ve lost one of our client (leaf) servers along with services. We hope to have things back to normal asap. Jan 20 19:51
trmanco http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-7-Beta-… Jan 20 19:59
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-christel-[Global Notice] Hi all, Everything is back to normal now (services included) — bgp issues with uunet as the cause of the problem. Apologies for the inconvenience and have a good day. Jan 20 20:09
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moogstrap ah, it works now Jan 20 20:30
moogstrap the connection froze the moment I tried to type anything before. So, does RMS fly first-class or not? Jan 20 20:32
tessier_ moogstrap: No Jan 20 20:37
moogstrap oh good Jan 20 20:37
moogstrap now I know Jan 20 20:38
moogstrap I saw an interesting thing about astro-turfing earlier: http://consumerist.com/5134066/belkin-caught-… and http://www.dailytech.com/Belkin+Rep+Accused+o… Jan 20 20:42
tessier_ http://slate.com/id/2209139 Microsoft: Forget Yahoo, buy Palm Jan 20 20:43
tessier_ moogstrap: Yeah, I posted that url yesterday Jan 20 20:43
moogstrap doh Jan 20 20:44
moogstrap I’ve had a long weekend Jan 20 20:44
moogstrap how about this? win7 as a free upgrade, but it’s the only article I’ve seen on the subject: http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/pc/m… Jan 20 20:45
moogstrap oh wait. no there are a few others too Jan 20 20:46
moogstrap wtf. oh. this is old, old news Jan 20 20:46
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trmanco http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/a… | “If you’re an <http://identi.ca> or Twitter user, you can direct a Jan 20 21:08
trmanco comment to “obamainaugural” on Twitter asking them why the official Jan 20 21:08
trmanco streaming format is Microsoft’s Silverlight and not Ogg Theora. Public Jan 20 21:08
trmanco events like this should be broadcast in publicly accessible free Jan 20 21:08
trmanco formats, not used as levers to gain market share and control over Jan 20 21:08
trmanco citizens for proprietary software companies like Microsoft. Jan 20 21:08
trmanco Jan 20 21:08
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trmanco Digg is suffering from a Digg effect Jan 20 21:58
MinceR digg is suffering from the m$ and crApple fanboy effect Jan 20 21:58
trmanco that too Jan 20 21:59
schestowitz Cousin says: “I guess that most investor portfolios will take a 5% drop today. In case you are not fast at arithmetic, that is a $5000 loss for each $100,000 invested. [...] I can’t help but wonder if this was a negative reaction to Obama’s installation, or due to signs of something else on the horizon, like a couple of big banks about to collapse.” Jan 20 22:01
schestowitz MS down 6.5% Jan 20 22:02
MinceR business doesn’t like the new corporate puppet? Jan 20 22:02
schestowitz No. Jan 20 22:04
schestowitz My friends get offended when I call him that… though I supported him Jan 20 22:04
schestowitz IBM’s VP slagged me off for suggesting this. Jan 20 22:05
MinceR well, he’s still better than McBush Jan 20 22:05
MinceR and W Jan 20 22:05
MinceR doesn’t make him any less of a corporate puppet though. Jan 20 22:05
schestowitz MS to buy Palm (Linux)? Nonsensical. Jan 20 22:06
schestowitz He needs to sack everyone in the White House… Jan 20 22:07
schestowitz And send Bush to trial. Jan 20 22:07
schestowitz Trial, not prison. Jan 20 22:07
MinceR they can’t buy everyone using linux on mobile devices. Jan 20 22:08
schestowitz Though Bush too was a puppet of people who deceived him Jan 20 22:08
schestowitz They too need to be sent to a non-US court like The Hague. Jan 20 22:08
schestowitz trmanco: the inauguration is like a sporting event… brought to you by Microsoft executives. Jan 20 22:09
schestowitz Ballmer, Smith, gates and their spouses… among many other corporate people to whom this is slush fund. Jan 20 22:09
trmanco schestowitz, There is some footage in OGG Jan 20 22:10
schestowitz NOVL is down 5%… below $3.5 Jan 20 22:10
trmanco schestowitz, see: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/advoca… Jan 20 22:10
schestowitz trmanco: belated? Jan 20 22:10
trmanco don’t know what “belated” means Jan 20 22:10
schestowitz Not live in this case? Jan 20 22:11
trmanco schestowitz, not sure, I haven’t checked Jan 20 22:18
schestowitz brb Jan 20 22:19
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tessier_ Experts are warning that hackers have yet to activate the payload of the Conficker virus. Jan 20 22:41
tessier_ I’m hoping for serious collateral damage. Jan 20 22:41
MinceR so am i Jan 20 22:42
schestowitz twitter: unleash Change Powa on ‘em. Jan 20 22:53
schestowitz Matt Lee from the FSF: “Both of these are useful measures against C#, and potentially good ways of doing things JavaScript is the best dynamic scripting language, with a sweet spot between familiar syntax and power, and Vala’s idea of translation to C worked well for the old d2c Dylan compiler.” http://foocorp.org/products/exploringfreedom/… Jan 20 22:54
schestowitz Jimbo Wales: “Jimmy Carter: “Obama can change our reputation in ten minutes”” http://blog.jimmywales.com/index.php/arc… He changed Wall Street (aka FraudStreet) rpetty fast…. Jan 20 22:56
schestowitz Kelly Fiveash  is a bit of a MS pen in The Reg. Jan 20 22:58
schestowitz I sense a strong pattern Jan 20 22:58
trmanco OT: http://www.boycott-canada.com/index.htm Jan 20 23:01
schestowitz *LOL* http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?… Jan 20 23:01
schestowitz inv(GARTNER)=RENT RAG Jan 20 23:02
tessier_ ‘”Of course, the real problem is that people haven’t patched their software,” he added.’ -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/te… Jan 20 23:02
tessier_ No, the REAL problem is that the software sucks. Jan 20 23:02
schestowitz RPC Jan 20 23:02
schestowitz Maybe they learned from past experiences… Jan 20 23:02
schestowitz Many MS patches render machines dysfunctional if not unbootable (mostly Vista and SP1) Jan 20 23:03
schestowitz Our post about Get the Facts has impact here too… Jan 20 23:06
schestowitz http://ostatic.com/blog/ostat… Jan 20 23:06
schestowitz Apache Holds Steady Market Share, Still Dominating Microsoft IIS < http://ostatic.com/blog/apache-holds-steady… > Jan 20 23:08
MinceR gn Jan 20 23:10
schestowitz The bribing charity killers slash prices too… http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-262969.html (Intel cuts prices by up to 48 percent) Jan 20 23:18
schestowitz Top Android man is leaving..   Jan 20 23:20
schestowitz http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/20… Jan 20 23:20
schestowitz trmanco might like this:  http://www.inatux.com/articles3.php (Short Firefox 3.1 Beta 2 new feature list) Jan 20 23:25
moogstrap another “win7 will kill linux” article. But this time it’s Linux and Apple’s fault! http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/a… Jan 20 23:44
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schestowitz Paul Rubens is not a troll Jan 20 23:46
schestowitz Some people labeled him a shill, but let me read it quickly. Jan 20 23:46
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schestowitz Sensationalist from what I can gather… overstating his case to support exaggerated hypothesis (headline) Jan 20 23:48
tessier_ Paul Rubens? Isn’t that Pee Wee Herman? Jan 20 23:48
schestowitz Linux, unlike OS X, is not just a desktop platform (in _practice_) Jan 20 23:48
tessier_ Paul Reubens seems to be the correct spelling. Jan 20 23:48
schestowitz How many devices out there run Linux whilst Microsoft shouts frantically about the 5% market share od WincE? Jan 20 23:48
moogstrap he praises Ubuntu et al. It’s just the “you guys blew it. Big time” that addled me Jan 20 23:48
schestowitz Remember (from the other day): “Linux has over 50% market share” (DVRs I think) Jan 20 23:48
schestowitz moogstrap: he ALWAYS praises Ubuntu Jan 20 23:49
schestowitz People in some sites I visit blasted him for it Jan 20 23:49
schestowitz This blindness is bad Jan 20 23:49
schestowitz Mandriva is just as good. Ubuntu is overhyped and such reporters perpetuate this hype. Jan 20 23:49
moogstrap yeah Jan 20 23:50
moogstrap but that’s everywhere Jan 20 23:50
schestowitz Ubuntu Faster Than Windows XP Feedback < http://www.itworld.com/small… > Jan 20 23:54
moogstrap for good measure: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/So… a cocounter-argument Jan 20 23:55
moogstrap counter even Jan 20 23:55
schestowitz moogstrap: it’s a cyclic thing. Like in Microsoft’s memos…. it becomes consensus or convention think — no matter how wrong. Jan 20 23:55
schestowitz *conventional Jan 20 23:55
moogstrap hrmm. you see it a lot on ./ — for a lot of people, Linux IS Ubuntu Jan 20 23:56
moogstrap /. * Jan 20 23:56
schestowitz They feed the talking points (“Killer(R)”) Jan 20 23:56
schestowitz They recite the MicrosoftSlogan(R) Jan 20 23:57
schestowitz Like peopleready. Jan 20 23:57
schestowitz http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/… Jan 20 23:57
schestowitz “Some dust is being kicked up about a group of bloggers who have accepted payola for endorsing Microsofts ad campaign named ‘People Ready’. The particulars of the indiscreations are being batted around blogger land and some well known journalists have chimed in their thoughts. But the community as a whole seems divided on the subject if ethics for bloggers should apply the same as it does for journalists.” Jan 20 23:58
schestowitz From people-read to “Linux killer”? ;-) j/k Jan 20 23:58
moogstrap I think “primetime” is the most hated of all FUD-words. It’s mine anyhow Jan 20 23:58
schestowitz Yes Jan 20 23:58
schestowitz “Ready for desktop” is FUD Jan 20 23:59
schestowitz I’ve said this for years Jan 20 23:59
schestowitz It poses readiness as a question Jan 20 23:59
schestowitz Is Linux “ready” for the desktop (yet)? Jan 20 23:59
schestowitz Is VIsta? Jan 20 23:59
schestowitz Define ready Jan 20 23:59
schestowitz Are users ready for change? Jan 20 23:59
schestowitz So all these gimmicks have psychological impact on readers Jan 20 23:59
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