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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: January 26th, 2009

Posted in IRC Logs at 4:22 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz


Enter the IRC channel now

schestowitz http://message.snopes.com/showthre… Jan 26 00:47
MinceR lol Jan 26 00:54
MinceR gn Jan 26 00:56
schestowitz nn Jan 26 00:56
schestowitz Palm Quietly Responds to Apple’s Quiet Threat http://www.osnews.com/story/20845/Palm_Quietly… Jan 26 01:04
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schestowitz Alec Baldwin favourited… Novell employee… http://uk.youtube.com/user/bhendrick65 … we had one troll posting under ‘Alec Baldwin’… interesting. Jan 26 01:32
schestowitz “Alec Baldwin (IP: , host86-146-49-183.range86-146.btcentralplus.com)” Jan 26 01:33
schestowitz Quantum Leap: Information Teleported between Ions at a Distance http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=quantu… Jan 26 01:41
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schestowitz The other GNU (Africa):  http://www.hararetribune.com/harare-opinio… (The GNU is a Ponzi Scheme) Jan 26 09:07
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MinceR r4wr Jan 26 10:09
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logger_bot OK, it’s back up Jan 26 10:42
logger_bot My 21′ monitor (secondary) is f*ed over here and BIOS is misbehaving as well. Ho hum.. Jan 26 10:43
schestowitz NSA whistleblower: Warrantless wiretaps targeted journos < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01… > Jan 26 13:41
schestowitz Lots of discussion goes on in KDE about Linus’ choice: Jan 26 13:57
schestowitz http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/ch… Jan 26 13:57
schestowitz Netbooks Damaging The Tech Economy? Say What?!? < http://techdirt.com/articles/200901… > Jan 26 14:02
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schestowitz Brazil’s secret Palm OS developer < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new… >. Intel’s  Barrett to leave in May… is Palm using ARM? Jan 26 14:49
schestowitz Microsoft is hopefully not demoralising people.Microsoft is more feeble than the Average Joe realises.. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/… Jan 26 15:01
schestowitz SOmeone wrote to me: “”You’ve put together a huge amount of information on your website.  I hope it all does some good.  I sometimes feel like it’s too late to make a difference because MS is already too influential.  Microsoft people seem already to have infiltrated every company and organization that could oppose them.” Jan 26 15:01
schestowitz Also: “A while back I had collected some links about Bill Gates dad and how much power his law firm has.  I’ll see if I can find that information again.  If I remember correctly it was from news releases about the Gates law firm buying up other law firms to the point where they now have offices nationwide. “ Jan 26 15:02
schestowitz “I actually believe that’s where the real power behind Microsoft comes from, but who can know for sure…” We’ll see corruption exposed, that’s for sure. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/22/microsof… Jan 26 15:02
schestowitz http://en.wikipedia.org/wik… “He also serves as a director for Costco wholesale, a bulk retail corporation. “ Jan 26 15:05
schestowitz “About the two Firms JAG worked for: – - The firm of William H. Gates Sr., father of Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, merged with Preston in 1990. The later old line Seattle firm started when Harold Preston relocated to Seattle from Iowa in 1883 and began practicing law. Jim Ellis joined Preston in 1949. “ Jan 26 15:06
schestowitz “Members of JAG were registered lobbyists for Microsoft. During the 90′s PGE became a Top 10 lobbying Firm based on lobbying gross revenue. Much of their lobbying success and revenue was due to the success of JAG.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/… Jan 26 15:06
schestowitz http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/lo… Jan 26 15:10
schestowitz EU Might Force OEMs to Offer Choice of Browsers During Setup < http://www.osnews.com/story/20850/EU_Might_Force_OEM… > Jan 26 15:15
schestowitz “THERE AREN’T MANY widely told anecdotes about the current financial crisis, at least not yet, but there’s one that made the rounds in 2007, back when the big investment banks were first starting to write down billions of dollars in mortgage-backed derivatives and other so-called toxic securities.” http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/maga… Jan 26 15:28
schestowitz What a sham: Microsoft dresses up .NET with “open source”: http://www.heise-online.co.uk/open/Community-Liv… Jan 26 15:30
trmanco http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linu… Jan 26 15:30
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/24/ad… Jan 26 15:35
trmanco I read some Jan 26 15:36
trmanco not all of them Jan 26 15:36
trmanco oh, I see a first slated reply Jan 26 15:40
trmanco mind games, pff Jan 26 15:44
schestowitz “I thought that I would let you know about Stormy Peters’ Mexico school project, in case you have not yet heard about it. http://is.gd/hgTK …” Jan 26 15:53
schestowitz TuxMachines has been down for half a day Jan 26 15:53
trmanco Tomorrow I’m going to update my 2.6.28.x kernel to the latest version on Fedora :D Jan 26 15:56
schestowitz The news (in general, not just FLOSS) is diminishing. THis leaves me wondering about ways forward….. Jan 26 15:58
schestowitz Linux Foundation Announces Formal Kick Off for “We’re Linux” Video Contest < http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/The-Li… > Jan 26 16:01
schestowitz Doesn’t qualify as news though… compare “company announces new brand of macaroni” with “John like “macaroni”. A lot of the news these days are the latter type (+layoff announcements) Jan 26 16:02
schestowitz I’ll do a lot more Comes exhibits in the near future.. we shall see…………. Jan 26 16:03
trmanco Just found this -> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qemu Jan 26 16:51
schestowitz Check this out: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content… Jan 26 16:57
schestowitz Walt Mossberg?????? WTF? He’s a journalist. Jan 26 16:57
PetoKraus oh well Jan 26 17:13
PetoKraus latest beranger’s “oh linux is not mature” post is shite Jan 26 17:13
schestowitz I don’t read him anymore Jan 26 17:17
PetoKraus yeah well Jan 26 17:18
PetoKraus i’m skipping quite a lot Jan 26 17:18
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schestowitz Shaping up a bit… http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/inde… Jan 26 18:12
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trmanco http://www.globalnerdy.com/2009/01/2… Jan 26 20:07
schestowitz I’ve just added all the Intel items, inc. anti-Linux at Intel: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?… Jan 26 20:09
schestowitz it’s a lot of work to be done… some day, some time.. hopefully *before* Microsoft is history (in which case it beats the purpose) Jan 26 20:09
schestowitz I’ve made local copies of almost all PDFs. The wiki takes good shape. Jan 26 20:16
schestowitz trmanco: has RMS gained weight? ;-S Jan 26 20:20
trmanco maybe Jan 26 20:21
trmanco he is getting old Jan 26 20:21
schestowitz But the two things may be mutually independent. Jan 26 20:22
trmanco yep, they are Jan 26 20:22
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?title=DRM Jan 26 20:23
schestowitz http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer… “BRITAIN’S new database which will contain all the personal details of every kid in Britian will be open to nearly 400,000 people.” Jan 26 20:26
schestowitz Romanian Senate Web site helpfully takes *nix users to IEs 4 Linux page so we can experience the joy of IE – http://is.gd/hgRp. Thanks, not http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/1149270158 Jan 26 20:27
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schestowitz CNET is pushing pro-MS fluff into CNN… not even news, just some promise. Shame on CNN.. Jan 26 20:28
trmanco OOo 3.0.1 is going to be released tomorrow Jan 26 20:47
schestowitz Security patches? Jan 26 20:47
schestowitz BTW, I think “Barca” is Gary flatfish Stewart Jan 26 20:47
schestowitz Philips admits first loss in six years < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/… > Jan 26 20:49
schestowitz See… that’s the only type of ‘significant’ news one finds these days Jan 26 20:50
schestowitz No product announcement. Jan 26 20:50
schestowitz Without products, thingshardly change Jan 26 20:50
schestowitz I’ll turn more attention to Comes while it lasts… Jan 26 20:50
schestowitz Sprint Nextel chops 8,000 workers < http://www.theregister.co.uk/200… > Jan 26 20:51
trmanco schestowitz, not sure, more like a maintenance bug update Jan 26 20:52
trmanco I don’t know if it got any security patches Jan 26 20:52
schestowitz None I’ve heard of. Jan 26 20:52
schestowitz OOo is harming Office. Jan 26 20:52
schestowitz Google maybe more so Jan 26 20:53
schestowitz Office got very cheap provided one looks around… and the revenue suffer accordingly. Jan 26 20:53
schestowitz Here is a message I got some hours ago: “I don’t doubt Microsoft is on the ropes, financially.  It’s always been hard to see how they kept above water when they obsessively insisted on getting their fingers in every pie.  They never seemed to focus on anything but chasing everyone else’s markets.  They’ve HAD to be bleeding money, profusely, in every department.  The ODF nonsense, alone, had to have cost them plenty…mostly in hus Jan 26 20:53
schestowitz h-money, wouldn’t you think? “ Jan 26 20:53
schestowitz “I guess what bothers me most is that they have infiltrated so many places in Washington DC.  I just think they’ll find as many ways as possible to get the government to help them out.  They are much too greedy to stand back and watch everyone else get bailout money.  They’ll want a big chunk too, if they can get it (by hook or by crook).  After all, lots of politicians owe favors to Microsoft.” Jan 26 20:53
schestowitz “We all think that Microsoft will (eventually) show itself to be one of the biggest worldwide scams in history…probably not THE biggest, but definitely in the top ten.  But they’ll have caused a lot of damage before that happens.” Jan 26 20:54
schestowitz [this is from a very conservative source BTW] Jan 26 20:54
schestowitz “If this horrible economic “downturn” (as the press politely calls it) helps to cause the demise of Microsoft, then at least some good will come of it.  It should be interesting to see how many disgruntled ex-employees start talking after the layoffs are done.” Jan 26 20:54
schestowitz “I’m sure they all have to sign papers promising never to talk about MS internal stuff, but sometimes people get mad enough to become whistleblowers.  It’ll be interesting.” Jan 26 20:54
schestowitz As you may know, I intend to expose many more TRUTHS pretty soon. ;-) Jan 26 20:54
schestowitz How table turn… Wikipedia tames the very predecessors that brag being better: Britannica Tests Wikis < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158327/b… > Jan 26 21:02
schestowitz That’s like Microsoft testing Linux (as alternative to Windows) for own use Jan 26 21:02
schestowitz http://www.pcworld.com/article/15832… (Sony Loses $2.9 Billion, Makes New PSP Colors) Jan 26 21:03
MinceR it’s going the other way too, now :> Jan 26 21:03
MinceR http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl… Jan 26 21:03
schestowitz Linux has that too (patchmaster). It makes sense if it scales Jan 26 21:05
schestowitz “Scott McNealy, the Sun Microsystems co-founder and chairman, is legendary for his Microsoft jokes. But the Redmond company should probably take seriously what McNealy is saying these days — at least considering the audience.” < http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Obama_liste… > Jan 26 21:12
schestowitz Maybe Microsoft can hire McNealy.. Jan 26 21:12
schestowitz Some reader says: “[re: corporate Internet presence...] I notice it’s been a while since I posted my question of whether “Dan O’Brian” has some professional link to Novell or Microsoft and so far he has not answered.  He sure seems to have gotten more emotional lately.  I guess some of these posts are really starting to hit home for him.” Jan 26 21:12
schestowitz I wonder if we have Novellers posting ‘out of work’… “Also, I should mention that I just got out of a meeting where the topic of corporate presence on the Internet came up.  The guy sitting next to me is an Exchange administrator and he mentioned that Microsoft encourages their employees to write their own blogs.” Jan 26 21:14
schestowitz “I’m sure that’s not news for either of us but I was a little more surprised when someone else mentioned that she subscribes to Comcast and she posted of a problem she was having with their service to her blog.  Someone from Comcast found her post quickly and her problem was escalated and resolved.” Jan 26 21:14
schestowitz “This was after frustration going through normal technical support channels.  It turns out that Comcast has a group of people who spend their time searching the Internet for “Comcast sucks” and following up on any matches.  Another interesting story is that my predecessor used to run a blog lambasting our vendor.” Jan 26 21:14
schestowitz “Even though my predecessor is long gone and that blog probably is no longer maintained since she no longer works with this vendor, the vendor representatives still bring up this issue from time to time with my bosses.  This all means that corporate concern over their image on the Internet has become mainstream.” Jan 26 21:14
schestowitz “I guess I’m also saying that it would surprise me even less if “Dan O’Brian” is a paid astro-turferwho now figures that, since he has not succeeded appreciably with toning down Boycott Novell’s coverage, he might as well just try to make the site a more unpleasant place by making ad hominem attacks.” Jan 26 21:14
schestowitz TuxMachines is still down… almost been a day now……….. Jan 26 21:15
schestowitz Why celebrities love Twittering < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/en… >. Twitter valuation a quarter of a billion? Jan 26 21:21
PetoKraus bah Jan 26 21:24
schestowitz Microsoft servants unite around Xen and Windows…. Intel, Citrix To Collaborate On Virtualized Desktops < http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/v… > Jan 26 21:25
PetoKraus anything new on conficker? Jan 26 21:27
PetoKraus i really wonder what’ll it do Jan 26 21:28
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schestowitz Time to cut off ZDnet|IDG: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/2… Jan 26 21:30
schestowitz Talking points galore Jan 26 21:30
schestowitz PetoKraus: it’s said to have stopped around 10 million . I saw a report this morning. Jan 26 21:30
schestowitz Why of why do they feed the TALKING HEADS? http://linux-watch.com/news/NS5784396972.html Jan 26 21:31
schestowitz *why oh Jan 26 21:31
schestowitz “And anyway, the idea that the OS will disappear, or become a commodity is something I’ve been reading about in computer magazines since Apple’s ill-fated Copland OS project in the mid-90s. The idea comes and goes, but ain’t happened yet. “ Jan 26 21:32
schestowitz Oh noes! Linux is gonna die!! Don’t bet your business on it…. that’s the message they try to send. Jan 26 21:33
twitter What’s up with Walt Mossberg?  I just added him to my poison pens collection yesterday Jan 26 21:33
schestowitz twitter: why did you add him? Jan 26 21:33
schestowitz I intend to write about his tomorrow. He’s a buddy of Gates.. there goes some credibility (also for the WSJ) Jan 26 21:34
twitter I noticed he was a consistent linux basher parading as the voice of reason Jan 26 21:34
twitter I think we also noticed him in some of the journalist manipulation emails. Jan 26 21:34
MinceR i guess it’s something apple wishes to happen Jan 26 21:34
MinceR ever since they’ve realized they can’t hack up an os worth using Jan 26 21:34
schestowitz Has he written his “Windows 7 will [kill|kick|destory] Linux” ‘article’ yet? Jan 26 21:35
twitter Don’t know.  I wrote up a little of what I found here … digging up the link. Jan 26 21:35
schestowitz twitter: got examples of the mails? Jan 26 21:35
schestowitz I know about the Dell Ubuntu Linux article (laptop that *GASP* didn’t work with his iPod). Jan 26 21:35
twitter http://slashdot.org/~twitter/jou… Jan 26 21:35
schestowitz Can you help me clean up the text? Jan 26 21:36
twitter we turned them into text a couple of weeks ago.  I did not have time to dig up the link. Jan 26 21:36
twitter sure, I got your email earlier.  will check that out tonight.  you have more? Jan 26 21:36
schestowitz http://pastebin.com/m381f93a1 Jan 26 21:36
schestowitz Original PDF: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mi… Jan 26 21:37
trmanco schestowitz, you can have your own pastebin (private Jan 26 21:37
schestowitz That’s OK Jan 26 21:37
schestowitz It’s public material anyway now.. (Comes) Jan 26 21:37
trmanco http://boycottnovell.pastebin.com/ Jan 26 21:37
trmanco you can just type in any subdomain and it will work Jan 26 21:38
schestowitz I’ll link to Poison Pens tomorrow Jan 26 21:39
PetoKraus schestowitz: destory :P Jan 26 21:39
schestowitz I ought to also find that other corresponse with him re Vista Jan 26 21:39
PetoKraus that’s actually quite correct Jan 26 21:40
twitter Oh, thanks.  It’s something I’ve been working on. Jan 26 21:40
PetoKraus right well Jan 26 21:44
PetoKraus which article does the linux-watch article talk about? Jan 26 21:45
schestowitz I’ve just gone through headers of 50 pages of Vista lawsuit Jan 26 21:45
schestowitz No Mossberg there… Jan 26 21:45
schestowitz PetoKraus: not worth seeinfg Jan 26 21:46
PetoKraus don’t worry, i’ve got adblock Jan 26 21:46
PetoKraus :P Jan 26 21:46
schestowitz It’s probably W-E and other fools selling out Jan 26 21:46
schestowitz For traffic or favour of cash.. Jan 26 21:46
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schestowitz http://www.linux.com/ “Job seekers and job openings in Linux and OFSS” Jan 26 22:01
schestowitz Bad typo for a front page that’s been there for a long time… why don’t they correct it..? Jan 26 22:01
schestowitz Newsvac is over as welll…. December.. http://www.linux.com/feed/ Jan 26 22:02
schestowitz Groklaw ought to return… Jan 26 22:02
schestowitz 3,600 Microsoft Shoes Waiting to Drop < http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2009/0… > Jan 26 22:04
schestowitz This will get worse for them in the future.. sales and profit declining… http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2009/01/… Jan 26 22:05
schestowitz “Kanye West says someone has taken control of his Twitter. Not to mention his Gmail and MySpace accounts. [...]” Kanye West blames Gmail hijack for bisexual porn hoax < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01… > Jan 26 22:17
twitter eww Jan 26 22:17
schestowitz It reminds me of the trolls mischiefs against me Jan 26 22:17
schestowitz They hijack my name, then post all sorts of stuff about castration. Jan 26 22:17
schestowitz Then, even years later they link to many such posts that they had planted Jan 26 22:18
twitter ha ha, -> “Who the fuck is Stephen Colbert?” Jan 26 22:19
twitter Fake News, that’s who Jan 26 22:19
twitter The story is not so nice but it is good to watch big broadcasters in decline. Jan 26 22:23
twitter I saw someone complaining about fixed margins and a lot of <br> commands on a page today.  The page would have rendered OK without the breaks but it was a mess with them. Jan 26 22:25
twitter I can also see the complaint about text that does not scale with browser size.  I think it’s a CSS downside but don’t really know. Jan 26 22:25
schestowitz Which site? Jan 26 22:28
twitter NIH, I think Jan 26 22:35
twitter nope, it was some kind of “Federal Biz Ops” page. Jan 26 22:37
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schestowitz MinceR: http://www.osor.eu/news/hu-gove… (HU: Government withdraws tender requesting proprietary software) Jan 26 22:58
MinceR i’ve heard about it but not read about it Jan 26 22:59
MinceR i’ve heard they did it because they couldn’t agree who gets the bribe money :> Jan 26 22:59
schestowitz I can imagine. They’ll be discussing it with SteveB over face omelete. Jan 26 23:01
twitter Good for Hungry!  Looks like the egg toss paid off. Jan 26 23:10
twitter LOL, SteveB’s Open Face Omelet. Jan 26 23:11
schestowitz Who’s Hungry? :-) Jan 26 23:11
twitter http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&saf… Jan 26 23:12
twitter I’m hungry. Jan 26 23:12
twitter It’s time for dinner.  Don’t tell anyone I misspelled the country. Jan 26 23:12
twitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary Jan 26 23:14
twitter I know people from there and they would be angry with me. Jan 26 23:14
schestowitz No eggs, just goulash … http://news.softpedia.com/news/Steve-Ballmer… Jan 26 23:14
*MinceR is from there Jan 26 23:14
MinceR but misspellings happen Jan 26 23:14
twitter bbl Jan 26 23:14
MinceR gn Jan 26 23:59
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    The USITC/ITC, which mostly serves to impose embargoes (sometimes in shocking defiance of PTAB decisions), is being invoked by a firm connected to the world’s largest patent troll, Intellectual Ventures

  19. Tinder/Match Group Uses Software Patents to Sue a Rival, Obviously Choosing to Sue in Texas

    Software patents are being used for leverage, but only those which were likely granted before Alice and only in courts at districts somewhere around Texas

  20. Links 19/3/2018: Linux 4.16 RC6, Atom 1.25, antiX 17.1, GNU Mcron 1.1

    Links for the day

  21. From PTAB Bashing to Federal Circuit (CAFC) Bashing: How the Patent 'Industry' Sells Software Patents

    The latest tactics of the patent microcosm are just about as distasteful as last month's (or last year's), with focus shifting to the courts and few broadly-misinterpreted patent cases (mainly Finjan, Berkheimer, and Aatrix)

  22. Patent Maximalists Keep Coming Up With New Terms and Buzzwords to Bypass the Practical Ban on Software Patents

    The fightback against Section 101 and the US Supreme Court (notably Alice) seems to concentrate on old and new buzzwords, such as "Software as a Medical Device" ("SaMD") or "Fourth Industrial Revolution" ("4IR"), which the EPO recently paid European media to spread and promote

  23. News About Patents is Often Just Advertisements Composed Directly or Indirectly by Companies That Sell Patents and Patent Services

    Infomercials are still dominant among news about patents, in effect drowning out the signal (real journalism) and instead pushing agenda that is detached from reality, pertinent facts, objective assessment, public interest and so on

  24. Blocks and Paywalls Won't Protect the Patent Trolls' Lobby From Scrutiny/Fact-Checking

    Joff Wild and Benoît Battistelli have much in common, including patent maximalism and chronic resistance to facts (or fact-checking)

  25. China Has Become Very Aggressive With Patents

    China now targets other Asian countries/firms -- more so than Western firms -- with patent lawsuits; we expect this to get worse in years to come

  26. UPC/Battistelli Booster IAM Blames Brexit Rather Than EPO Abuses

    While the EPO is collapsing due to mismanagement the boosters of Team Battistelli would rather deflect and speak about Brexit, which is itself partly motivated by such mismanagement

  27. European Commission Again Urged to Tackle Abuses at the European Patent Office (EPO)

    Rina Ronja Kari is the latest MEP attempting to compel the Commission to actually do something about the EPO other than turning a blind eye

  28. Links 18/3/2018: Wine 3.4, Wine-Staging 3.4, KDE Connect 1.8 for Android

    Links for the day

  29. TXED Courts Are Causing Businesses to Leave the District, Notably For Fear That Having Any Operations Based There is a Legal Liability

    A discussion about the infamous abundance of patent cases in the Eastern District of Texas (TXED/EDTX) and what this will mean for businesses that have branches or any form of operations there (making them subjected to lawsuits in that district even after TC Heartland)

  30. PTAB Hatred is So Intense Among the Patent 'Industry' That Even Scammers Are Hailed as Champions If They Target PTAB

    The patent microcosm is so eager to stop the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) that it's supporting sham deals (or "scams") and exploits/distorts the voice of the new USPTO Director to come up with PTAB-hostile catchphrases


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