EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

04.12.09

Does Microsoft Silence Dissent Against Vista 7?

Posted in Microsoft, Videos, Vista 7 at 9:22 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

“Someone from Microsoft emailed me,” said Vista 7 reviewer

“No other large companies as far as I know use their employees as attack dogs to silen[ce] dissent. It’s time for Microsoft to stop this nonsense.”

The Prickly Prince From Microsoft Strikes Again

DaemonFC from the Boycott Novell channel has reviewed Vista 7 and demonstrated its serious problems. Others whom we hear from allege that Vista 7 is a huge marketing campaign which is fueled by many things including bribes. Watch what happens to critics of Vista 7.

Ogg Theora

The mention of Comcast could be interesting because of the Microsoft relationship [1, 2], but that’s a negligible or irrelevant part. Surely there will be some skeptics out there who will call DaemonFC “paranoid” and other such words . But we already know for a verifiable fact that Microsoft hires marketing agencies (or agencies that recruit people) for manipulation of information that’s presented in the press, the Web, and the journals.

Regarding smears and personal attacks, see:

External links:

Regarding Microsoft’s (or Microsoft-funded) AstroTurfing, here are examples that are largely substantiated:

Whenever people insist that it’s “just paranoia”, the stories above are worth revisiting. It’s not so easy to rub off the past and Microsoft does occasionally get caught. It’s a strategy, it’s not out-of-control employees.

“Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in, “he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2.” Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. Make the complete failure of the competition’s technology part of the mythology of the computer industry. We want to place selection pressure on those companies and individuals that show a genetic weakness for competitors’ technologies, to make the industry increasingly resistant to such unhealthy strains, over time.”

Microsoft, internal document [PDF]

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

10 Comments

  1. ml2mst said,

    April 12, 2009 at 10:45 am

    Gravatar

    Business as usual @ Mugabe$oft. How long does their gestapo gets away with it?

    Cheers

  2. Dan O'Brian said,

    April 12, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Gravatar

    So his only evidence that it’s Microsoft is that it comes from a bunch of anonymous Comcast-owned IPs in Minnesota?

    He basically admits he doesn’t know who it is, so he concludes that it must be a Microsoft agent doing it. Wow, solid detective work there. Can’t argue with those “facts”.

  3. Yfrwlf said,

    April 13, 2009 at 2:39 am

    Gravatar

    Sure that’s pretty vague, but the fact is that it wouldn’t surprise anyone, because Microsoft and other companies do pay for propaganda, influence, and often flat out deceit/lies in every form in every way they can.

    What I would like to see is someone actually taking the time to track them and try to go after them until they get somewhere. If you could track these companies down, perhaps landing some kind of lawsuit against them and their funders would be possible.

  4. Dan O'Brian said,

    April 13, 2009 at 8:13 am

    Gravatar

    Yfrwlf: my point was that until it’s proven that it’s Microsoft, it’s just libel. IMHO, that guy just wants attention. He’s got no facts to back up his accusations.

    The only reason you believe it to be true is because you *want* to believe it to be true, because you hate Microsoft. If you were neutral, you wouldn’t believe it without actual proof. You are letting your bias influence your perception of the truth.

  5. Yfrwlf said,

    April 13, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Gravatar

    Lol, I never said it was true, I said it wouldn’t be surprising if it was, and Microsoft and especially other larger corporations with lots of money DO pay “PR firms” to spread PR in all manners of forms, and astroturfing is one of those.

    It’s like if someone said they were spoke to by some god, I’d probably immediately walk away knowing that that is most likely BS, but if someone said they felt the effects of gravity, then yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if that were true and they really did feel the effect of gravity.

  6. Roy Schestowitz said,

    April 13, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Gravatar

    Yfrwlf,

    DaemonFC said he did reverse DNS lookup.

  7. Shane Coyle said,

    April 13, 2009 at 5:04 pm

    Gravatar

    DaemonFC said he did reverse DNS lookup.

    And?

    I mean, did it resolve back to "1 Microsoft Way", or whatever their address is?

    (I watched about 50 seconds of the video before I said "Yup, he sounds paranoid." and clicked stop, so I honestly don’t know the answer.)

    Anyhow, I had for a while been receiving some nastygrams from time to time during the early days of BN, so I can certainly {sy|e}mpathize, and it certainly does not need to be tolerated nor condoned, but I think it’s a just a bit of a leap to think that MS is orchestrating it.

    "Internet’s fulla crazies" (including "us"), that usually explains it.

    I suppose I could be wrong, I’ll go ask the man with the parabolic mic parked out front in a van with Washington license plates if he’s aware of anyone assigned to DaemonFC, be back in a sec… ;^ )

  8. Dan O'Brian said,

    April 13, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Gravatar

    RDNS just pointed to random Comcast home IP’s in Minnesota according to the video. No “One Microsoft Way”, no connection to any known Microsoft partners, nothing.

    Paranoius Maximus.

  9. Yfrwlf said,

    April 16, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    Gravatar

    With the things many companies do, I don’t think it’s paranoid to wonder such things at all. Like I’ve said many times before, corporations like Microsoft do pay for PR firms, and those firms do put out positive publicity for their payers, and negative for others against their payers.

    Proof is what is needed to really know for sure, I totally agree. Just remember Microsoft’s pockets are particularly deep along with many other of the large corps. They can afford to pay for propaganda and they do.

  10. Roy Schestowitz said,

    April 16, 2009 at 5:08 pm

    Gravatar

    I put a question mark in the headline for a reason.

What Else is New


  1. Patent Scope Recognised as Essential For Patent Quality, But Software Patents Continue to be Granted

    Patents that are toothless, clawless lions are being accumulated by companies that should know various courts would scrutinise these enough to rule them invalid



  2. Litigation and Patenting Versus Research and Development

    reminder of who's 'stealing' jobs from engineers and who it is done for (who benefits from mass taxation rather than actual production)



  3. The Federal Circuit Has Become the Go-To Place For Patent Appeals Arising From USPTO Errors

    Patent appeals that come to CAFC as a result of bad Patent Office decisions now outnumber the appeals coming from district courts (an extraordinary situation)



  4. The Truly Odd Concept of Design Patents, Which the US Supreme Court Might Crush Very Soon

    The epidemic of shallow patents, which has already resulted in patents on mere designs, be soon end; but not before an unprecedented gold rush for such patents



  5. Quality of European Patents Has Sunk, Value Diminished

    The trouble associated with declining patent quality at the European Patent Office and early warnings about it from the staff union



  6. The Notorious 1-Click Buying Patent Expired Rather Than Invalidated

    As proof of the fact that many bogus patents (typically on software) are worthless but not invalidated, we now have Amazon's patents reaching their end of life



  7. PTAB Crushes Software Patents and Patent Extremists Are Not Happy About It

    The Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB), a legal facility which invalidates many software patents, still faces opposition from those who profit from software patents (not software developers)



  8. Software Patents and Patent Trolls Are Almost the Same Problem (Still)

    Apple just got sued again, Microsoft-connected patent trolls continue serial litigation against Microsoft's competitors, and a bike shop gets sued using software patents



  9. Links 20/8/2017: KStars 2.8.1, Fedora Design Interns

    Links for the day



  10. Lack of Independent Judiciary Under the Unitary Patent (Like Boards of Appeal Under Battistelli, in Defiance of the EPC) Will Possibly Kill the Unified Patent Court

    Germany, a key player in UPC negotiations (most patents at stake), cannot proceed to ratification and Britain's expected exit from the European Union further restricts any progress



  11. The Staff Union of the EPO Has Long Warned About Declining Patent Quality

    The quality of granted European Patents (EPs) has been declining sharply and the EPO's staff representatives have warned about it for a long time, only to find themselves severely reprimanded for telling the truth



  12. The EPO's Management Needs a Perception of Security Crisis

    The EPO follows that familiar pattern of writing about every Islamic terror attack in Europe (and in the US too) while media in Munich tells a story where facts are yet uncertain



  13. Links 18/8/2017: Wallpaper of Plasma 5.11, Oracle Liberates Java EE a Bit

    Links for the day



  14. Links 17/8/2017: Krita 3.2.0, New Raspbian GNU/Linux OS

    Links for the day



  15. Corruption at the European Patent Office and Systematic Bullying That Leads People to Suicide/Bankruptcy

    A look back at 3 years of intensive EPO coverage and what's coming up next (suppression of truth behind closed doors in the courtrooms)



  16. Supreme Court Decision on TC Heartland v Kraft Food Brands Group Already Vacates the Eastern District of Texas

    Patent trolls are losing their mojo as patent lawsuits drop 21% in the Eastern District of Texas and this collapse is expected to accelerate



  17. Media Dominated by the Patent Microcosm Spreads Myths and Defends Patent Trolls, Collectors

    Popular culture myths, such as Edison being a prolific inventor, and what we all ought to know about an actual patent epidemic (vast increase in the number of patents granted, bringing the total to over 10 million in the US)



  18. The Patent Trial and Appeal Board Squashes Many Software Patents (Abstract) and §101 Seems Safe From Lobbying by the Patent Microcosm

    The Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB), together with the Alice-inspired §101, is an efficient eliminator of bogus patents on software and there is no end to that in sight



  19. Ericsson Hired From the World's Largest Patent Troll and Became a Massive Troll in Europe

    Ericsson's patent aggression campaign (even in Europe) carries on; it turns out the person behind this strategy came from Intellectual Ventures



  20. Links 16/8/2017: Ardour 5.11, 24th Birthday of Debian

    Links for the day



  21. Links 15/8/2017: New LibreELEC and More

    Links for the day



  22. The Collapse of Patent Quality at the EPO is Inviting to Europe Some of the World's Worst Patent Trolls

    As troll litigation soars in Europe we must take a careful look at the sorts of patents granted by the EPO these days and the policies that support such grants



  23. The EPO is Paying Journalists For Trips Abroad and May be Buying Fake Twitter Followers (Still)

    The EPO's media strategy -- a nefarious strategy which is costing many millions of euros and is corrupting the media -- explained in light of recent activity and reporting (in German)



  24. 'US Inventor' is an Extremist Group Created by Watchtroll (Not Inventors) to Troll the USPTO for Patent Maximalism

    The face behind so-called 'US Inventor' (an anti-PTAB group) which enlists, apparently, a handful of people and does not actually represent American inventors



  25. Links 14/8/2017: Linux 4.13-RC5, PostgreSQL 10 Beta 3, GCC 7.2

    Links for the day



  26. Links 13/8/2017: DebConf 2017 and GUADEC 2017 Wrapups

    Links for the day



  27. The Farce Which is Nokia's Patent Portfolio, a Ripoff of Other People's Ideas (and Patents)

    The untold story about Nokia's alleged ripoff (plagiarism) of other people's patents, which are now being used aggressively in a shakedown campaign even against OEMs that distribute Linux



  28. Software Patents Help Neither Software Developers Nor Society in General. It's Time to Bury Them All.

    The idea that patents for the sake of patents (or increasing the overall number of patents) is somehow beneficial to everything these patents touch is misguided and detrimental not only to practitioners but also to the public whose work contributes to



  29. The Latest Evidence of the Demise of Software Patents in the United States

    Even though some software patents continue to be granted, courts in the U.S. almost always reject these, signaling the end of software patents as a potent tool (unless there's an out-of-court settlement, usually because the defendant is too poor)



  30. Growing Unrest Over Patent Trolls Goes Political

    Encouraging signs for scientists and technologists: The push for the end of patent trolling (patent assertion by parasitic opportunists against vulnerable people who cannot afford legal defense)


CoPilotCo

RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

CoPilotCo

Recent Posts