EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

06.10.09

Microsoft Windows Discriminates Against ODF, FSF Denounces Microsoft for ODF Abuse

Posted in America, Google, Microsoft, Open XML, OpenDocument, Vista, Wikipedia, Windows at 3:42 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Summary: New ODF developments and observations

A reader has just sent us a pointer to the following:

Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:58:15 -0500
From: Wade Smart <wade at wadesmart.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Subject: [users] Windows Vista Search doesn’t find ODF files….

Gordon wrote:
> I have two documents, one a .odt and one a .doc. (They are the same
> document, just different formats).
> If I search using Vista Advanced Search by Modified Date, (they both
> have the same Modified Date) ONLY the .doc file is shown.
>
>
> ———————————————————————
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe at openoffice.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help at openoffice.org
>

20090609 1157 GMT-5

I have noticed that too. A little preferential treatment maybe?

Wade

This just shows how much Microsoft likes ODF, does it not? Microsoft has fought against ODF all along [1, 2] and now it is trying to fragment it with its pseudo-ODF (MSODF [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]).

At the same time, Microsoft is subverting Wikipedia's article on ODF in order to hide the effect of its actions. Just looking at the past couple of days, there are many edits from the usual suspects, e.g.”Ghettoblaster” [1, 2] and Albert Zonneveld (most people know him as "hAl"). Look how hard he has been working in tandem with “Ghettoblaster” in the past couple of days, all to glorify Microsoft [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] (and not just in the article on ODF by the way).

The Microsoft proponents are editing so quickly that those correcting them with messages like “suspected advertisement in promoting microsoft’s product, please provide valid source” are being overridden vainly and swiftly. When it comes to “Ghettoblaster”, here is a person trying to correct his/her promotion of Microsoft and another one correcting an insult of OpenOffice.org.

How about interesting edits that state: “(Undid revision 295165923 by user:HAl how is it not relevent that Rick Jelliffe has admitted recieving money from Microsoft to edit wikipedia, and demanding a sources for unsourced fact)”

For more information about what the Microsoft folks have been doing in Wikipedia (to the ODF article alone), see:

What Microsoft is doing gets noticed too. Make no mistake. Microsoft "technical evangelists" (TEs) and staff are participating in this from a distance. We offered proof.

The FSF has meanwhile joined wide opposition to what Microsoft is doing to ODF. The headline states, “Microsoft Office tries to break ODF.”

Just a quick update to our OpenDocument campaign, with news that Microsoft Office has added support for ODF, but in a state that leaves it incompatible with every other ODF capable application out there, including OpenOffice.org and KOffice.

Microsoft has many reasons to be afraid of ODF (which is interoperable). Brazil makes more obvious moves to ODF and as Tony Manco puts it, “open office brasil (BrOO.org) adopts odf and uses more foss software like firefox. [...] BB accepted foss since 2001. 60% of there computers use Linux [...] the rest use another os but have OOo and Firefox installed.

In other very interesting ODF news, there is more support for this standard from Google.

Google Translator Toolkit currently only allows users to upload HTML, Microsoft Word, OpenDocument Text, Rich Text and Plain Text documents up to 1MB for translation. Alternatively, it’s possible to enter the URL of a file on the web, select a Wikipedia article or a Knol for translation.

Google was among those publicly opposing OOXML, which is proprietary.

“It’s a Simple Matter of [Microsoft’s] Commercial Interests!“

Microsoft on OOXML

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

12 Comments

  1. Needs Sunlight said,

    June 10, 2009 at 5:31 am

    Gravatar

    WTF is all the OOXML promotional material doing in the ODF article?

    pcolon Reply:

    MSFT seems to be psychotically desperate now. It doesn’t matter what crap they use to break the GNU/Linux ecosystem; It’s not working and their desperation is readily apparent for all to see in spite of their followers and paid press/blogger spins.

  2. pcolon said,

    June 10, 2009 at 7:23 am

    Gravatar

    Yes, have been pointing that out to the members of our lab team. It seems these people (ghettoblaster, hAl, etc.) are trying to make Wikipedia as irrelevant like Brown and Jesper did with ISO.

  3. twitter said,

    June 10, 2009 at 9:58 am

    Gravatar

    The only thing M$ can do to fight ODF and free software is break Office and Windows. Break Windows and blame the competition, this is an old trick that’s not working as well as it did back in the days of DRDOS and CompuServe. The more they do it, the faster they lose.

    The simple solution is to dump M$. Because they continue to prove their malice, “Mixed environments” should be viewed as worse than an all M$ environment no matter how many features are lost. No feature added to M$ Windows by a “third party” can be counted on because M$ will eventually sabotage it. I’ve been using free software exclusively for close to ten years now. The trouble saved by escaping M$ malice far outweighs the few times I’ve had to find a Windows box to cooperate with some ignorant institution or other. I think I’ve only had to do that once in the last three years. My case is not isolated as massive migrations such as Lowes, IBM, the French National Police, West Point and many other prove.

    The sooner the world gets away from non free software, the sooner the malice will end. Only non free software people bother with sabotage like this. You don’t find schools, doctors and lawyers doing these kinds of things to their peers. RMS pointed out early that NDA’s were like an agreement to “be a bad person” and that non free software was unethical at its very foundation. We should not be surprised when non free software companies behave in an unethical manner. The sooner non free software is over, the less damage their poor ethics will do to society at large.

    Moo Reply:

    The sooner non free software is over, the less damage their poor ethics will do to society at large.

    I agree with the sentiment. I am also pessimistic about ever meeting this standard. As long as society is ignorant and willing to trade their freedom for power and convenience, we will always have digital colonial masters abusing their power over society.

  4. David Gerard said,

    June 10, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Gravatar

    Various relevant people at Wikipedia and Wikimedia are aware of this, FWIW. There are various apocalyptic scenarios we’d rather didn’t come close to consideration.

    David Gerard Reply:

    (In particular, some people seem unaware that people do in fact see all and know all, and are merely extremely conservative in what action is taken, preferring to lead perpetrators to more sensible action.)

    Roy Schestowitz Reply:

    I saw your comments today in Groklaw (regarding Wikipedia). FWIW, hAl[bert] gets his treatment.

    David Gerard Reply:

    *facepalm* So much for verb. sap.

  5. A Wiki Admin said,

    June 10, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Gravatar

    The nice thing is that all the evidence is there and public. Microsoft can edit; they cannot remove (public) Wikipedia editing logs and page histories. FUD doesn’t work well when you can’t hide your activites. It just needs a nice lawyer and another go round the European Courts… I wonder how much they would be good for this time in terms of media and legals? :)

  6. manul said,

    June 11, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Gravatar

    Here is some fresh news:

    Federal Anti-Monopoly Service Russia opened a case against six major notebook producers (namely Acer, Asus, Toshiba, Hewlett-Packard, Samsung and Dell), following consumers’ complaints that they were being forced to buy Microsoft’s Windows operating system along with new computers.

    genuine announcement (in Russian) http://www.fas.gov.ru/news/n_24601.shtml
    google translate http://translate.google.ca/translate?pr … ry_state0=
    Moscow Times: http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/600/42/378477.htm

What Else is New


  1. Microsoft is Attacking Android Like Never Before, Qisda the Latest to Sign Patent Extortion Deal

    More blackmail and propaganda against Android, courtesy of the gentler, kinder, 'new' Microsoft



  2. Caution Needed When Microsoft Copywriters Flood the Media With Microsoft Propaganda

    Media actively subverted by Microsoft-sponsored agents of deception, whose goal is to change what people think of Microsoft and its software, even if by lying (they call it 'marketing')



  3. Gartner Staff That Worked for Microsoft and the Latest Nonsense from Gartner or 'Former' Staff

    Gartner waited until 2015 to declare FOSS fit for databases; another example spotted where Gartner staff comes from Microsoft or vice versa



  4. Links 27/4/2015: Debian 9 Named, Linux 4.1 Reaches RC

    Links for the day



  5. Microsoft is Interjecting Itself Into GNU/Linux and Free Software News, Even Events and Foundations

    Microsoft's entryism strategy is proving effective as Microsoft successfully embeds itself inside the idealogical competition, subverting the competition's overall message and diluting the competition's focus on Free software



  6. The Unethical Business of Selling Fear of Free/Libre Software Bugs (Black Duck, Sonatype, and Symantec)

    The spreading of fear of Free/Open Source software (FOSS) is now a growth industry, so proprietary opportunists are eager to capitalise on it, even if by distorting the truth



  7. Patients' Data at Risk as NHS Reinforces Its Microsoft/Accenture Stockholm Syndrome

    The worst privacy violator in the world and the firm behind LSE failures are pocketing as much as £0.35 billion of British taxpayers' money to acquire access to very sensitive data of British people



  8. Links 26/4/2015: Debian 8, OpenMandriva Lx 3 Alpha, Mageia 5 RC

    Links for the day



  9. Links 25/4/2015: Debian LTS Plans, Turing Phone Runs Linux

    Links for the day



  10. Who Kills Yahoo? It's Microsoft, Not Yahoo!

    The media should blame Microsoft, not Marissa Mayer, for what's going on (and has been going on for 7 years) at Yahoo!



  11. EPO Management is Trying Hard to Appease Its Critics While Pushing Forth Unitary Patent Agenda

    The European Patent Office and European Commission promote the agenda of large multinational corporations (at the expense or European citizens) and critics are being kept at bay



  12. Real Patent Reform Will Not Come From Biggest Backers of GNU/Linux, Not Even Google

    A look at the 'new' Google, the company which is hoarding patents (2,566 last year alone) instead of fighting for reform



  13. Microsoft's Troll Intellectual Ventures Loses Software Patents

    Intellectual Ventures is bluffing with software patents, but this time around it doesn't get its way



  14. Links 24/4/2015: Ubuntu and Variants in the News, Red Hat Developer Toolset 3.1

    Links for the day



  15. Links 23/4/2015: Ubuntu 15.04 is Out, Debian 8.0 Out Very Soon

    Links for the day



  16. Links 22/4/2015: Fedora 22 Beta, Atlassian Acquires BlueJimp

    Links for the day



  17. The Dying Debate Over Patent Scope (Including Software Patents) Replaced by 'Trolls' (But Not the Biggest Ones)

    The corporate media and Web sites or people who are funded by large corporations have essentially suppressed any debate about issues in the patent granting process, thereby guarding software patents and preventing criticism of large corporations' power grab



  18. The Patents Gold Rush Continues

    The morbid obsession with monopolising mere ideas still dominates the media, even increasingly in China



  19. 9 Millionth US Patent Tells a Story of Failure and USPTO Misconduct

    The USPTO, much like FISA (notorious court for surveillance/espionage authorisation), has become a rubber-stamping operation rather than a patents examination centre, as new evidence and old evidence serve to show



  20. HBO Helps Shift Debate Over Patents to 'Trolls' (Scale), Not Scope

    More of that awkward shifting of the patent debate towards small actors who are misusing patents, not large conglomerates like Apple and Microsoft which use patents to destroy competitors, crush startups, drive up prices, and so on



  21. Software Patents Are Still Menacing to Free Software: OIN Expands Scope, HEVC Adds to MPEG-LA Burden/Tax, Google and Facebook Give in on Patents

    A look at recent news about software patents and especially Free/libre software, which is inherently incompatible with them



  22. The Latest Developments Around Microsoft's Clever Attack on Android/Linux

    Microsoft's campaign of destruction, extortion, etc. against the most widely used Linux-powered operating system is revisited in light of new reports



  23. The Microsoft 'Community' is Maligning the Free Software Community

    Dishonest generalisations and baseless deductions portray the Free/Open Source software communities as a nasty place that leads to poverty and despair



  24. Googlebombing 'Microsoft Open Source' Even When Microsoft Shuts Down Its 'Open Source' Proxy

    A massive failure by the press to cover the most basic news, which is Microsoft putting an end to a supposedly 'Open Source' effort



  25. Links 22/4/2015: Calculate Linux 14.16, SparkyLinux 4.0 RC KDE

    Links for the day



  26. Links 21/4/2015: Project Photon, Ubuntu Touch Buzz

    Links for the day



  27. Embrace, Extend, Extinguish: How Microsoft Plans to Get Rid of Linux/Android

    Microsoft's sheer abuse against Android is laying bare for everyone to see now that Microsoft has paralysed Google's legal department with potential antitrust action in Europe



  28. Yahoo's Current CEO (Mayer, Formerly of Google) is Trying to End Yahoo! Status as Microsoft Proxy

    There are signs of relinquishing Microsoft's control over Yahoo! after Marissa Mayer worked to end the company's suicidal/abusive relationship with Steve Ballmer's Microsoft



  29. Repeating Microsoft's Lies Without Any Journalistic Assessment

    Poor fact-checking by relatively large media/news sites results in Microsoft's patently false claims being repeated uncritically



  30. Links 19/4/2015: New KaOS (2015.04), Manjaro Linux 0.8.13 Pre1

    Links for the day


CoPilotCo

RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

CoPilotCo

Recent Posts