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Re: some ideas methods and techniques for dealing with excessively verbose or inquisitive or garrulous installation and upgrade

'Brian Mays wrote:'
>
>>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Fearnley <cjf@netaxs.com> writes:
>
>    Chris> I'd like to make a small qualification here.  I think the
>    Chris> packaging system should not (without --force at least)
>    Chris> install things quietly if the installation won't be
>    Chris> complete.
>
>Then the option to upgrade silently should be `--force-silent'.

First,, it should be possible to have a silent upgrade without needing
the --force-silent.  Perhaps by copying the already configured config
database from another server (after we develop such a best and have all
packages use it).  Secondly, thinking about it, I'm not sure what dpkg
--force-silent should do with the misbehaved package that asks for
verbose input.  I mean if dpkg sent a [RETURN] to the maint. script
will that /always/ give a default?  Could there be some package that
requires one to hit [p/q] (and loops endlessly if the user doesn't
choose p or q)?  How long does dpkg wait before it kills the maint.
script?  And does dpkg leave the package in an unconfigured state (the
user can run dpkg --configure manually later) or pretend that
everything is honky-dory?

-- 
Christopher J. Fearnley            |    Linux/Internet Consulting
cjf@netaxs.com, cjf@onit.net       |    UNIX SIG Leader at PACS
http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf         |    (Philadelphia Area Computer Society)
ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf    |    Design Science Revolutionary
"Dare to be Naive" -- Bucky Fuller |    Explorer in Universe


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