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Deviating from the Social Contract?

On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

>From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@waterf.org>
>> The point I made is that this fine distinction between
>> which parts of our ftp site are part of debian and what is not was
>> confusing to me at the beginning and it still is confusing to others today
>> as evident from several messages posted to debian-private recently.
>
>I understand that. Do you suggest some change in the text of the policy
>manual to make it more clear? 

No. I think the separation of non-free and contrib will solve
this problem. I did not talk about changing policy I just stated a fact.
Why is it so difficult to take what I write the way it is?
You had no proble with that separation for years but now we cannot make
the same distinction for gated?

>> By throwing out non-free and contrib you are deviating from the Social
>> Contract.
>
>I don't think so. First of all I never intended to put non-free on the
>official CD, and there are obvious reasons for not doing so. Second,
>I decided on my own to put contrib on two official CDs, and then decided
>not to put them on subsequent CDs. I have not decided to remove those
>directories from the FTP site, and would only do so if there was a really
>good home for them, one where they could be taken care of better than under
>Debian's management.

What I see you doing right now the getting rid of non-free and contrib and
refusing all support from the Debian Project. Shaya had to get his own
mailing list setup. He probably has to get his own bug reporting system
set up etc etc. The position taken by the Debian Project here is in stark
contrast to the Social contract. Now the freeware ideology is enforced
instead of tolerating other copyrights.

>> You might want to consider a revision of that point.
>
>Just what sentence should I revise? The paragraph you quoted does not
>require that we provide the bug reporting system for gated, for example,
>because it will not be in our non-free directory.

That was not a discussion of the gated issue... 

What I had in my was for example:

5. Programs That Don't Meet Our Free-Software Standards

We do not support such software neither on our ftp sites nor on our
mailing lists or our bug tracking system. We will use all leverage we have
to force others to adopt our copyright guidelines.

I would appreciate this change if you really want to get rid of non-free
and contrib. The social contract in its current form gives a very
different impression to what I see going on right now.

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