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Re: Getting root on Linux



I fail to see how just adding an option for the user to set a LILO
password at install time prevents users from getting in to the system
to fix it...!

Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@datasync.com> writes:

> Hi,
> 	[snipped non-Debian addresses off]
> >>"Brian" == Brian White <bcwhite@verisim.com> writes:
> 
> Brian> Can we adjust LILO to ship with the password enabled by
> Brian> default, then? Presumably it can be set to requires password
> Brian> with no password being set so that it is simply impossible to
> Brian> boot with parameters without manually setting a password (or
> Brian> disabling it).
> 
> 	I am all for security, generally, but I think that the
>  requirement for the password should not be set unless the password
>  has been set by the user. (I would hate it if on upgradng LILO, I
>  can't get back into my machine when things fail).
> 
> 	You can't ram security down peoples throats. Also, security is
>  always a matter of trade offs, and we should think carefully before
>  assuming what tradeoffs are ``right''. 
> 
> 	The lilo config should mention this in loud, screaming banner
>  headlines, maybe. But systems should not ship such that the customer
>  can't get to the machine after misconfiguring xdm.
> 
> 	Also, this level of security may not be required in many
>  cases, for dial-up machines in peoples homes (if you get to my
>  keyboard, data security is least of my worries).
> 
> 	I would suggest we modfy liloconfig to ask for, and set, a
>  password, if the user so wishes, but never to require a password with
>  no password provided.
> 
> 	manoj
> -- 
>  I can't drive 55.
> Manoj Srivastava               <url:mailto:srivasta@acm.org>
> Mobile, Alabama USA            <url:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/>
> 
> 
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