| schestowitz | Britain will subject everyone who works with kids to multiple, repeated police-checks http://www.boingboing.net/2009/07/17/britain-will-subject.html | Jul 18 00:00 |
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| Diablo-D3 | WOW | Jul 18 00:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | THE IRONY | Jul 18 00:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/4KN16p_cIVA/big-brother-amazon-remotely-deletes-purchased-copies-of-1984-and-animal-farm-from-thousands-of-kindles | Jul 18 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Spy Memo Author to America: No Apologies for Tapping You http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/yoo-defends-spying/ | Jul 18 00:01 |
| schestowitz | HAHA "DHS chief accused of using no-fly list for political payback" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/17/arizona_treasurer_dean_martin_nofly_list/ | Jul 18 00:02 |
| schestowitz | wallc should have seen this | Jul 18 00:02 |
| trmanco | http://www.penumbragame.com/index.php | Jul 18 00:06 |
| schestowitz | DOM flaw can crash many browsers http://www.h-online.com/open/DOM-flaw-can-crash-many-browsers--/news/113779 | Jul 18 00:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Kirlian photograph. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/11030.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/524946.html | Jul 18 00:18 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Google Not Liable For 'Defamatory' Search Result Snippets In The UK < http://ping.fm/QwUHB > lawyer culture | Jul 18 01:05 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Group suicide for old press: "Financial Times editor says most news websites will charge within a year" http://ping.fm/OEeEw | Jul 18 01:06 | |
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| schestowitz | gn | Jul 18 01:30 |
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| _Hicham_ | hi all | Jul 18 01:43 |
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| David_Lee | Sorry for the shameless plugging of FSF on the comments (Macabe@david_lee's desktop) | Jul 18 02:43 |
| http://slashdot.org/submission/1040625/Boycott-Novell-Takes-M-Astroturf-Evidence-to-FTC | Jul 18 02:47 | |
| tessier | I don't care if the major news websites do charge. | Jul 18 03:00 |
| tessier | Other people will just scoop up their traffic and their stories and repost the major stuff anyone cares about | Jul 18 03:00 |
| tessier | I don't care if it takes them an extra hour or two to rework the stories. | Jul 18 03:00 |
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| Robert1 | Roy, that was an excellent idea about sending a complaint to the FTC regarding microsoft. | Jul 18 03:12 |
| Maybe people in IRC channels will put facts together and publish the results on a Web site. | Jul 18 03:13 | |
| Robert1 | i will be also sending them one too, as i am tired of all of the astroturfing that microsoft is doing. | Jul 18 03:14 |
| That might provide more objective news than Fox news as a pay site. | Jul 18 03:14 | |
| That's a good idea Robert1. Do you run a website? | Jul 18 03:14 | |
| Robert1 | unfortunately, no | Jul 18 03:15 |
| Robert1 | however, i do read all of the Linux related articles in the trade publication websites | Jul 18 03:16 |
| It is hard to collect the evidence required with one, impossible without. Reasonable conjecture must be backed with proof eventually. People like Roy finally have proof of the obvious things we have all seen. | Jul 18 03:16 | |
| Robert1 | i also read BN everyday as well as read COLA | Jul 18 03:16 |
| Robert1 | i see what your saying, twitter, however, i believe that the more complaints that are sent to FTC, the chances would be better that the FTC will investigate | Jul 18 03:19 |
| your time would be better spent encouraging your favorite sites to complain. | Jul 18 03:20 | |
| You are their customer. | Jul 18 03:20 | |
| Robert1 | did anybody ever figure out who that "eet" troll is? | Jul 18 03:20 |
| Robert1 | i could try, however, i do not think that they will go that far | Jul 18 03:22 |
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| kevin009 | some books got remotely yanked from customers' kindles... | Jul 18 03:31 |
| kevin009 | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/07/17/2138213/Amazon-Pulls-Purchased-E-Book-Copies-of-1984-and-Animal-Farm?art_pos=4 | Jul 18 03:31 |
| kevin009 | i may be legally blind, but I saw this one coming months ago :) | Jul 18 03:32 |
| George Orwell fall through the memory hole -> Amazon Kindle owners awoke this morning to discover that 1984 and Animal Farm had mysteriously disappeared from their e-book readers. These were books that they had bought and paid for, and thought they owned. Apparently the publisher changed its mind about offering an electronic edition | Jul 18 03:35 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd sue, btw | Jul 18 03:37 |
| http://www.george-orwell.org/Down_and_Out_in_Paris_and_London/index.html | Jul 18 03:37 | |
| http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/index.html | Jul 18 03:38 | |
| http://www.george-orwell.org/Animal_Farm/index.html | Jul 18 03:38 | |
| What, exactly, do these publishers think they achieve? | Jul 18 03:39 | |
| kevin009 | good ? | Jul 18 03:39 |
| Low sales of restricted media would be good. | Jul 18 03:40 | |
| kevin009 | it's like the car company coming in the middle of the night, swiping your car and leaving you a check | Jul 18 03:41 |
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| Diablo-D3 | kevin009: actually | Jul 18 03:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they didnt even leave a check | Jul 18 03:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | the publishers didnt pay back the money | Jul 18 03:43 |
| kevin009 | amazon had to front it... ouch | Jul 18 03:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | amazon is pissed at the publisher | Jul 18 03:44 |
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| Interesting. The left troll claims to have had PR person advise him on his RMS attack. -> I enlisted the aid of a publics relations professional* to take a look at it, and got nothing but compliments on it | Jul 18 04:09 | |
| The question is, what PR firm did he use, WE? | Jul 18 04:09 | |
| His letter was full of bile that no one would ever knowingly associate with a company that values their reputation. | Jul 18 04:09 | |
| http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/17/microsoft-apologists-vs-rms/comment-page-1/#comment-70644 | Jul 18 04:12 | |
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| wallclimber | Roy, if you're still awake, I just sent you px2768 as text. :) | Jul 18 04:43 |
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| Free software goodness. Old Debian Etch disk boots on EEE PC 701 via USB, changing only devices in /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab | Jul 18 05:28 | |
| E16 works nicely. | Jul 18 05:28 | |
| kicker there too. | Jul 18 05:28 | |
| Lenny might do hardware recognition better. | Jul 18 05:28 | |
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| sadly, Xandros does not seem to understand time zones. | Jul 18 05:32 | |
| it set the clock wrong. This is a minor annoyance that I will have to fix the next time I boot without a hard drive. | Jul 18 05:32 | |
| .... might just duct tape hard drive to case | Jul 18 05:33 | |
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| hmmm, auto device recognition for older kernel is not so good. no network or webcam | Jul 18 05:40 | |
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| schestowitz | I'll do some Linux news links........ | Jul 18 06:49 |
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| mikeeeee | chat is not appearing in window | Jul 18 06:59 |
| mikeeeee | hey Roy | Jul 18 07:00 |
| mikeeeee | you coming Gym? | Jul 18 07:00 |
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| schestowitz | Hi | Jul 18 07:08 |
| schestowitz | mikeeeee: in the afternoon, probably | Jul 18 07:08 |
| schestowitz | I've also made it into the next round of the table tennis tournament. I might have to play Joey in the next round (and lose) | Jul 18 07:09 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Needs No 'Extras', Unlike Windows http://ping.fm/PZ2BG | Jul 18 07:13 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mandriva Runs Latest Version from USB Key http://ping.fm/DxQMS | Jul 18 07:14 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop GNU/Linux Migration Works Like a Charm http://ping.fm/vALWe | Jul 18 07:16 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] California Schools Migrate to GNU/Linux on Old Hardware http://ping.fm/uXcu1 | Jul 18 07:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Extensive Benchmark of Leading Desktop GNU/Linux Distributions http://ping.fm/YIW7t | Jul 18 07:21 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Just Works with Printers, Of Course http://ping.fm/tP7Qp | Jul 18 07:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Unusual Physics Engine Game Ported to GNU/Linux http://ping.fm/MlD3c | Jul 18 07:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Amarok Wants to Replace iTunes http://ping.fm/68ZfS | Jul 18 07:32 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Red Hat Prepares a Fog Computing Event http://ping.fm/MFb7D | Jul 18 07:37 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Xubuntu Gets Praised in Latest Release http://ping.fm/rFFbP | Jul 18 07:39 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] CohesiveFT Embraces Ubuntu and Debian GNU/Linux http://ping.fm/8DqbD | Jul 18 07:41 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ubuntu Calls the Community to Propose or Made Wallpapers http://ping.fm/LPa3W | Jul 18 07:42 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ubuntu Derivatives Coordinates Releases http://ping.fm/vAlWz | Jul 18 07:45 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Sub-notebooks from Dell May be Varied http://ping.fm/1T1pd http://ping.fm/62W4D | Jul 18 07:50 | |
| mikeeeee | yeah joey is a good player, i am not so good:) | Jul 18 07:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] FOSS Company Aptana Gets $7.8 Million in Funding http://ping.fm/RbYpk | Jul 18 07:52 | |
| mikeeeee | yesterday the world welterweight boxing champion was in the gym, he is fighting amir khan tomorrow night at the men arena | Jul 18 07:53 |
| mikeeeee | he was asking "who is this Mr Fitness??!!!, bring him to me now!" | Jul 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | mikeeeee: Joey played at school | Jul 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | American? | Jul 18 07:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More on Free Software's Ability to Create Jobs http://ping.fm/42nvD | Jul 18 07:54 | |
| schestowitz | Were you there when he came in? | Jul 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Khan is sort of lightweight no? | Jul 18 07:54 |
| schestowitz | I always remember the Queen's remark on Khan | Jul 18 07:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Licensing in Free Software and Why the GNU GPL (Leader) is Important http://ping.fm/rN43l | Jul 18 08:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Site for Free Software in European Governments Gets Better http://ping.fm/yZuyO | Jul 18 08:03 | |
| mikeeeee | he is ukrainian i think | Jul 18 08:03 |
| mikeeeee | you sure you don't wanna go gym now? | Jul 18 08:04 |
| schestowitz | Why so early? | Jul 18 08:04 |
| schestowitz | Maybe at 10? | Jul 18 08:04 |
| mikeeeee | i need to go gym early today, then food, hmm | Jul 18 08:05 |
| mikeeeee | ok then i will be at the gym for 9.30 | Jul 18 08:05 |
| schestowitz | OK, excellent | Jul 18 08:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ziff-Davis Guides Migration to FOSS http://ping.fm/qy1rT | Jul 18 08:07 | |
| mikeeeee | do you want pick up for gym? | Jul 18 08:07 |
| schestowitz | No, thanks. It's nearby | Jul 18 08:09 |
| mikeeeee | ok see you in a bit, might play a cheeky game of tt too! | Jul 18 08:10 |
| schestowitz | I still have my table tennis bat here | Jul 18 08:15 |
| schestowitz | Theirs is better though | Jul 18 08:15 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Statistics on Contributions to Linux This Year http://ping.fm/kQIbQ | Jul 18 08:19 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Novell/Microsoft Mono Garbage Criticised in Press http://ping.fm/r15G6 | Jul 18 08:22 | |
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| _Goblin | How come Roy is not OP? | Jul 18 08:41 |
| _Goblin | oh....sorry.....Morning all. | Jul 18 08:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Carl Sagan on Astrology http://ping.fm/dJPXU | Jul 18 08:42 | |
| amarsh04 | hi _Goblin | Jul 18 08:42 |
| amarsh04 | about to head off to work | Jul 18 08:42 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: would rather not be OP | Jul 18 08:47 |
| schestowitz | I can add it | Jul 18 08:47 |
| _Goblin | ah | Jul 18 08:50 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz for yr amusement & schadenfreude: http://is.gd/1D425 "I don't like what this does to our brand, and this cannot be measured." | Jul 18 08:56 | |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Jul 18 09:09 |
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| Omar871 | Hi guys. | Jul 18 09:41 |
| Omar871 | What do you think of this guy. | Jul 18 09:41 |
| Omar871 | ? | Jul 18 09:41 |
| Omar871 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/16/creative_commons_fail/page2.html | Jul 18 09:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] in further news, water continues to be wet http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/17/yet-another-racist/ | Jul 18 09:41 | |
| Omar871 | Couldn't he possibly be a paid RIAA (or whatever) troll?? | Jul 18 09:42 |
| fewa | schestowitz, add this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite | Jul 18 09:49 |
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| tessier | http://www.microspotting.com/2009/02/zeke#referrer | Jul 18 10:21 |
| tessier | Is this for real? He's really a MS employee and principle developer on IE? | Jul 18 10:21 |
| fewa | smells like AstroTurf | Jul 18 10:31 |
| fewa | but could be real | Jul 18 10:32 |
| fewa | Copyright © 2007–2009 Microsoft Staffing Marketing. | Jul 18 10:34 |
| trmanco | lol | Jul 18 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | Jul 18 10:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are jobs where you cant go to the bathroom? | Jul 18 10:37 |
| HivenGlaven | it does show what anyone can do if they are willing to work hard and try to achieve | Jul 18 10:40 |
| _Goblin | lol....Microsoft are really trying to look hip and trendy are they not? | Jul 18 10:52 |
| _Goblin | "and I was like....." | Jul 18 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | bleepbleepbleepbleep, and it was all gone | Jul 18 10:52 |
| _Goblin | lol......Vicky Pollard comes to Microsoft (albiet her US cousin) | Jul 18 10:52 |
| _Goblin | Im sure the shareholders will love this insight into one of Microsofts finest... | Jul 18 10:53 |
| _Goblin | "and I was like hey man, this Vista OS is great..." - Keynote speech at Microsofts next shareholder meeting. | Jul 18 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | bwahahahaha | Jul 18 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know | Jul 18 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | I should buy a share of micorosft | Jul 18 10:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | them proceed to sue the almighty fuck out of them | Jul 18 10:54 |
| _Goblin | mind you its better than a sweaty ballmer jumping up and down on stage... | Jul 18 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Goblin: dude | Jul 18 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive seen those videos | Jul 18 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | he scares the shit out of me | Jul 18 10:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | its worse than a walmart shareholder's meeting | Jul 18 10:55 |
| _Goblin | lol. | Jul 18 10:55 |
| _Goblin | you see this is all double standards...had this Zeke guy turned up as a Linux advocate the MS faithful would have used it to prove Linux's worthlessness. Since he's being paraded in front of MS PR it's ok. | Jul 18 10:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres hope for him yet | Jul 18 10:57 |
| _Goblin | I wonder what the experienced coders and tech guys think when they are layed off and see this chap being appointed... | Jul 18 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | hehheheh | Jul 18 10:58 |
| fewa | anyone got slashdot mod points? | Jul 18 10:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe | Jul 18 11:00 |
| fewa | http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1307023&cid=28739491 | Jul 18 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | I guess I dont | Jul 18 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | I thought I did | Jul 18 11:00 |
| fewa | somebody needs to vote it up | Jul 18 11:02 |
| fewa | cause its the truth | Jul 18 11:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Associated Press are thieving scum as usual http://bit.ly/PUvfW | Jul 18 11:16 | |
| HivenGlaven | they story about the wiretapping is common knowledge, its been on a couple of very well known doco's, they even interviewed the guys who installed it. | Jul 18 11:19 |
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| fewa | but some still seem to accept the lie that it was only international traffic | Jul 18 11:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] who's going out tonight? I need people to drink and party with. I shall be dressing up. | Jul 18 11:22 | |
| _Goblin | sweet....An article of mine has popped up in Lxer | Jul 18 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | people still use lxer? | Jul 18 11:22 |
| HivenGlaven | yes, that is a lie, most governments spy on their own people. | Jul 18 11:23 |
| _Goblin | awww......hey..let me enjoy the moment! ;) | Jul 18 11:23 |
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| fewa | HivenGlaven, but in the United States there are laws on such spying, and the government failed to uphold them | Jul 18 11:23 |
| _Goblin | this is going to sound argumentative...but personally, I dont have a problem with it (if it happens in the UK) | Jul 18 11:24 |
| fewa | much of it was even pure laziness, and lack of respect for the law | Jul 18 11:24 |
| _Goblin | my only issue is with industry having my details and/or personal information to try and sell me things. | Jul 18 11:25 |
| fewa | "industry"? | Jul 18 11:25 |
| fewa | do you know what the word industry means? | Jul 18 11:25 |
| _Goblin | sorry...the commercial sector | Jul 18 11:25 |
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| _Goblin | poor choice of words | Jul 18 11:25 |
| HivenGlaven | in a world according to bush in a post 911 world he can do whatever he damn well pleased. but US has been wiretapping and spying on its citizens forever. | Jul 18 11:25 |
| fewa | HivenGlaven, the Obama administration has argued that the executive cant be sued at any time for any reason | Jul 18 11:26 |
| _Goblin | yes but then for all of us here, I don't think there is anything that the government would even be in the remotest bit interested in. | Jul 18 11:26 |
| fewa | HivenGlaven, the scope of this spying has is unprecedented, and has until now been completely infeasable | Jul 18 11:26 |
| HivenGlaven | he can arugue that all he likes, its not the case he can be impeached, sacked, and break the law. | Jul 18 11:27 |
| fewa | but that is his argument against breaking the law | Jul 18 11:27 |
| HivenGlaven | most people who break the law have an excuse for it, that does not make it right, correct or legal. | Jul 18 11:28 |
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| HivenGlaven | you only have to go as far as Nixon to find out about wire tapping, law breaking and paying for it. | Jul 18 11:30 |
| HivenGlaven | and even he was pardoned by the next guy who came in | Jul 18 11:30 |
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| kevin009 | so have you guys heard about those penumbra games being released for Linux and on sale for $5 this weekend? | Jul 18 11:52 |
| kevin009 | a bit like doom 3 but without weapons... also pretty scary | Jul 18 11:52 |
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| _Goblin | anyone been having problems connecting to Linuxtracker.org? | Jul 18 12:28 |
| oiaohm | It is fine from here _Goblin | Jul 18 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Omar871: Orlowski is a troll | Jul 18 12:31 |
| schestowitz | He uses the Register for a lot of anti-sharing tripe | Jul 18 12:31 |
| schestowitz | Omar871: probably not paid to do this | Jul 18 12:31 |
| schestowitz | <HivenGlaven> is Mutex (nymshifting troll) | Jul 18 12:41 |
| *schestowitz keeps an eye on Mutex | Jul 18 12:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:kPRCPlvRBVEJ:www.openemrhq.com/blog/+%22Anthony+Papillion%22+OpenEMR&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk | Jul 18 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Might be worth seeing the full story here.. | Jul 18 12:43 |
| trmanco | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/tracker.git;a=summary | Jul 18 12:50 |
| trmanco | see that repo's description | Jul 18 12:50 |
| trmanco | Silly time-limiter for the kids' internet usage | Jul 18 12:50 |
| trmanco | :-p | Jul 18 12:50 |
| trmanco | this may come in handy some day | Jul 18 12:50 |
| schestowitz | fewa: I'll install the MediaWiki plug | Jul 18 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Hm... the download server's down | Jul 18 12:53 |
| schestowitz | Thanks a bunch for working on it. http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/List_of_Microsoft_Sins | Jul 18 12:55 |
| schestowitz | MediaWiki site has svn problems | Jul 18 12:55 |
| schestowitz | I will install it as soon as they rectify it | Jul 18 12:56 |
| fewa | ok | Jul 18 12:57 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How History Gets Warped — Not Forgotten — to Conceal Microsoft Violations http://ping.fm/Q2anp | Jul 18 13:35 | |
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| Omar871 | schestowitz: But then how does would be of any benefit to him to pointlessly attack CC unless he's at least paid for what he says? | Jul 18 13:51 |
| Omar871 | schestowitz: CORRECTION -> "But then how would *it* be of any benefit to him to pointlessly attack CC unless he's at least paid for what he says?" | Jul 18 13:53 |
| Omar871 | schestowitz: Also, what do they mean by "Biting the hand that feeds IT.".. ? | Jul 18 13:54 |
| HivenGlaven | netscape failed because it was crap. | Jul 18 13:57 |
| MinceR | that list is biased | Jul 18 13:58 |
| MinceR | "Trying to compete with the world’s most beautifully designed digital media player" -- :rolleyes: | Jul 18 13:58 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, I have this video in ogg -> http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/17/richard-m-stallman-on-c-sharp/ | Jul 18 14:00 |
| trmanco | want it? | Jul 18 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Mutex (aka HivenGlaven ), trying another nymshift | Jul 18 14:02 |
| *#boycottnovell :You need to be a channel operator to do that | Jul 18 14:02 | |
| *#boycottnovell :You need to be a channel operator to do that | Jul 18 14:02 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Jul 18 14:02 | |
| *schestowitz sets ban on *!*n=teddy1@*.nsw.bigpond.net.au | Jul 18 14:02 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked HivenGlaven from #boycottnovell (schestowitz) | Jul 18 14:02 | |
| schestowitz | Does anyone keep count of how many nyms this same troll is using? | Jul 18 14:03 |
| trmanco | BAAM | Jul 18 14:03 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: please send as Ogg if you have it | Jul 18 14:03 |
| schestowitz | by mail | Jul 18 14:03 |
| trmanco | i'M encoding the flv into ogg right now | Jul 18 14:03 |
| trmanco | just give me some time and you will have it :-) | Jul 18 14:03 |
| trmanco | File saved to "/home/trmanco/Desktop/rms-drm-c.sharp.ogv". | Jul 18 14:04 |
| trmanco | :-) | Jul 18 14:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Treasonous Melco-Microsoft Linux Deal Already Costing Melco Business http://ping.fm/C9rWN | Jul 18 14:12 | |
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| *trmanco is uploading | Jul 18 14:23 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Security News: Cause and Effect http://ping.fm/bPHGr | Jul 18 14:23 | |
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| schestowitz | Hi, wallc | Jul 18 14:28 |
| wallc | good morning! | Jul 18 14:30 |
| wallc | (I'm reading the newest articles) | Jul 18 14:31 |
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| wallc | I just finished the Melco article. wasn't Melco already a struggling company? | Jul 18 14:42 |
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| wallc | Maybe they just didn't have the resources to fight MS? Microsoft has a reputation for intimidation. Sad, really. | Jul 18 14:44 |
| schestowitz | wallc: I sort of hope they were | Jul 18 14:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] David Schlesinger “Uses the Little Spat as an Example of Zealotry” http://ping.fm/OmvbV | Jul 18 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | This ways the deals evaporate | Jul 18 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Like Linspire's | Jul 18 14:45 |
| wallc | Microsoft also must truly hate the idea of hardware that works with Linux | Jul 18 14:45 |
| schestowitz | wallc: yes, Microsoft attacks weak companies | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Cause this way they get no challenge back | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | See TomTom | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft sued them DAYS after massive loss | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | They knew TomTom was at bottom low | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft needs to brag about legal defeat and surrenders | Jul 18 14:46 |
| wallc | they always seem to make sure the companies can't speak about it after the deal | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | wallc: can you find an article showing that Melco had problems? | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | if so, we should point it out | Jul 18 14:46 |
| schestowitz | wallc: yes, NDA | Jul 18 14:46 |
| wallc | i don't think i read about Melco's financial struggles in a comment on Groklaw | Jul 18 14:47 |
| wallc | oops, I mean I *think* | Jul 18 14:48 |
| wallc | oops...not I *don't* think (even tho i don't sometimes) : ) | Jul 18 14:48 |
| wallc | need more coffee... | Jul 18 14:48 |
| schestowitz | OK | Jul 18 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Let me add this as a comment | Jul 18 14:50 |
| wallc | Melco June financials: | Jul 18 14:50 |
| wallc | http://finance.aol.com/quotes/melco-crown-entertainment-limited-american-depositary-shares/mpel/nas | Jul 18 14:50 |
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| wallc | Is that the same Melco? | Jul 18 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't sound so | Jul 18 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I was in their Web site earlier | Jul 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | PageRank 4 | Jul 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Low profile | Jul 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | it's called Melco Holdings | Jul 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Seems like a subsidiary arrangement of one form or another | Jul 18 14:51 |
| wallc | lol...okay, guess i'll go eat some breakfast and give my brain a chance to wake up | Jul 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people didn't even know the company | Jul 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Some know its Linux *product* | Jul 18 14:51 |
| schestowitz | But not the obscure (relatively) company | Jul 18 14:52 |
| schestowitz | wallc: OK, laters. | Jul 18 14:52 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.idreamoflinux.com/2009/07/linux-sucks.html This is well done. | Jul 18 14:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/18/melco-in-lost-business/comment-page-1/#comment-70740 | Jul 18 15:00 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, sent | Jul 18 15:12 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, you don't have enough space | Jul 18 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Really? Which account? s@ has 100MB quota | Jul 18 15:17 |
| trmanco | r@s | Jul 18 15:18 |
| trmanco | the video is 50 | Jul 18 15:18 |
| schestowitz | OK, cool. | Jul 18 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Wow. 50mb for 3 minutes? | Jul 18 15:18 |
| trmanco | it's 7 actually | Jul 18 15:19 |
| trmanco | the flv is about the same size | Jul 18 15:19 |
| trmanco | 40.2 megabytes | Jul 18 15:21 |
| trmanco | actually | Jul 18 15:21 |
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| schestowitz | Was it just on LinuxProMag? | Jul 18 15:30 |
| trmanco | no | Jul 18 15:34 |
| trmanco | I downloaded the flv and encoded it in ogg | Jul 18 15:34 |
| trmanco | i'm resending | Jul 18 15:35 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz the guy posted *how* many kilobytes of raving insanity on that post? you need to preserve that post forever | Jul 18 16:06 | |
| fewa | the Sheevasi the NSLU killer | Jul 18 16:18 |
| fewa | *SheevaPlug | Jul 18 16:18 |
| fewa | next generation | Jul 18 16:19 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, can send that big of a message | Jul 18 16:21 |
| trmanco | I've managed to shrink it to 15 MB file | Jul 18 16:22 |
| trmanco | I'll send that one instead | Jul 18 16:22 |
| fewa | uggh look at the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melco | Jul 18 16:22 |
| fewa | being hustled from doing business and selling innovative products by a broken patent system | Jul 18 16:23 |
| fewa | and once again see that the it is the district court that is sane | Jul 18 16:24 |
| fewa | and the 'Federal Circuit', aka patent court, that hampers business | Jul 18 16:25 |
| fewa | wait... | Jul 18 16:25 |
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| schestowitz | fewa: OK | Jul 18 16:35 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: let me check | Jul 18 16:35 |
| schestowitz | fewa: mediawiki still weird... can't get the plugin yet | Jul 18 16:36 |
| fewa | kinda over my head | Jul 18 16:36 |
| fewa | but supposedly there was a special court created just for patent case appeals | Jul 18 16:36 |
| fewa | by congress, at the behest of patent lobbiests | Jul 18 16:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More on Mono, Microsoft, and Novell http://ping.fm/EFLOa | Jul 18 16:37 | |
| trmanco | schestowitz, sent | Jul 18 16:48 |
| trmanco | 20 mb | Jul 18 16:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Wikimedia Foundation | Jul 18 17:01 |
| schestowitz | Error | Jul 18 17:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 17:01 |
| schestowitz | fewa: still down. Gone titsup today. But I will install it ASAP. | Jul 18 17:01 |
| schestowitz | VERY little Novell news this week | Jul 18 17:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] davidgerard, he came to the site to provoke, provoke, provoke, then hope to use a response to harrass | Jul 18 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | trmanco: thanks, got the ogg | Jul 18 17:05 |
| trmanco | ok ;) | Jul 18 17:05 |
| fewa | schestowitz, you could jsut get it out of subversion http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Cite/ | Jul 18 17:07 |
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| fewa | are there any more fault tolerant desktop environments? | Jul 18 17:09 |
| fewa | dbus was burning ram so ito restart my session | Jul 18 17:09 |
| fewa | as restarting dbus kills your session | Jul 18 17:10 |
| fewa | schestowitz, you could direct from subversion http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Cite/ | Jul 18 17:10 |
| schestowitz | fewa: I want to make sure I get the right version | Jul 18 17:12 |
| fewa | but yeah that seems better | Jul 18 17:12 |
| fewa | ahh the issue is dbus http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495257 | Jul 18 17:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz yes. but no-one could look at that post and think he wasn't a raving lunatic. | Jul 18 17:22 | |
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| _Goblin | hi all! | Jul 18 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, _Goblin | Jul 18 17:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] right, lookis like i'm going to dead & buried tonight http://is.gd/1DorQ - might slime afterwards if I hate myself enough. | Jul 18 17:42 | |
| schestowitz | trmanco: ogg added, thanks a lot! | Jul 18 17:45 |
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| trmanco | you're welcome | Jul 18 17:52 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, the video isn't streaming | Jul 18 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | Ogg? | Jul 18 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Embedded? | Jul 18 17:54 |
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| trmanco | the ogg | Jul 18 17:54 |
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| _Goblin | another "blog" that is very vague (in terms of its owner) yet pimps Microsoft: http://ictheworld.wordpress.com/2009/07/18/microsoft-predominancy-is-over-long-live-to-microsoft/#comment-99 | Jul 18 18:28 |
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| _Goblin | oh and its comments require moderation...not a good sign. Lets see if they publish mine.... | Jul 18 18:29 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] My Wikimedia blog: Educational videos for kids: WatchKnow. http://is.gd/1Dr6U | Jul 18 18:51 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Currently leeching #!CBL 9.4.1 (AMD64 ver) from www.linuxtracker.org to give it the Openbytes treatment on one of my rigs! #linux | Jul 18 18:55 | |
| _Goblin | yawm.....169k per sec on Linuxtracker...... | Jul 18 18:57 |
| _Goblin | *yawn | Jul 18 18:57 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] agora ando aqui ás voltas para controlar uma checkbox... o gajo mesmo com checked='false' fica checked... :| | Jul 18 19:07 | |
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| schestowitz | I''ve just had to change keyboards | Jul 18 19:32 |
| schestowitz | I messed up my spacebar. Doh! | Jul 18 19:32 |
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| littleyoy | "In Ubuntu gksu and sudo can be hijacked by an attacker who already has access to the current non-administrative account." | Jul 18 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | Whoa. | Jul 18 20:45 |
| schestowitz | "CPE-143-238-84-56.nsw.bigpond.net.au" is Darryl | Jul 18 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Is this Mutex? | Jul 18 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Darryl is a known Microsoft troll | Jul 18 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Anti-Linux | Jul 18 20:45 |
| schestowitz | But I think they just share the same ISPs | Jul 18 20:45 |
| schestowitz | So we have two trolls from there entering IRC | Jul 18 20:45 |
| MinceR | or Darryl is Mutex | Jul 18 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Unlikely | Jul 18 20:46 |
| schestowitz | The Darrtyl troll is very stupid | Jul 18 20:46 |
| littleyoy | They right Roy, whatever you say. | Jul 18 20:46 |
| littleyoy | and whats so wrong about quoting Linux Today ?? | Jul 18 20:48 |
| littleyoy | Or dont you agree with their MS paid support and advertising ? | Jul 18 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Bye Darryel | Jul 18 20:48 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/x-3eb721dcb662728a | Jul 18 20:48 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked littleyoy from #boycottnovell (schestowitz) | Jul 18 20:48 | |
| schestowitz | It's him again | Jul 18 20:49 |
| schestowitz | You can tell so easy by punctuation | Jul 18 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Spaces before punctuation | Jul 18 20:49 |
| schestowitz | 2nd-grade lesson.. | Jul 18 20:49 |
| trmanco | lol | Jul 18 20:49 |
| schestowitz | 2ns-grade shill | Jul 18 20:49 |
| trmanco | nice catch | Jul 18 20:49 |
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| trmanco | now he will just change ip addres and come back in | Jul 18 20:50 |
| trmanco | like this dude who just came in | Jul 18 20:50 |
| trmanco | ... | Jul 18 20:50 |
| schestowitz | I wasted so much of this week on trolls | Jul 18 20:50 |
| schestowitz | And today I spend too much time in spa, pingping, other junk... but it's summer, so news is slow anyway | Jul 18 20:50 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: no, he's too dumb to have more than 1 IP | Jul 18 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | Now he makes noise about being banned... in BN comments | Jul 18 20:51 |
| schestowitz | See, this is what's good about IRC | Jul 18 20:52 |
| schestowitz | You can proactively get rid of trolls so you needn't delete anything | Jul 18 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Should we maybe disable BN comments and use just IRC for discussion? I thought about it last year | Jul 18 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Now it would temporarily mitigate the troll flood | Jul 18 20:52 |
| trmanco | but then they would flood the channel | Jul 18 20:53 |
| schestowitz | No, based on who they are we can reprimand | Jul 18 20:53 |
| desu | disabling comments just because of the trolls would mean they win :/ | Jul 18 20:53 |
| trmanco | by "they" I mean real people | Jul 18 20:53 |
| schestowitz | SOme are pure trolls | Jul 18 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Just the very ugly type | Jul 18 20:53 |
| schestowitz | I am not talking about those who actually debate | Jul 18 20:53 |
| schestowitz | desu: yes, exactly | Jul 18 20:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Novell and Ubuntu Suppress Opposition of Mono http://ping.fm/FSej8 | Jul 18 20:55 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[fsmag] Stopped fixing friend's Windows computers. Told them to install #GNU/Linux instead. http://fsmsh.com/3157. Will they ever learn? Recidivists | Jul 18 20:55 | |
| schestowitz | While writing the post above I realised who it is that said Ubuntu deleted mono criticism. It was Jason. It was 100% him. And you know what else? He said after that post that he's going to start a new project. Well, guess what?... two weeks later (ot something like that) came mono--nono | Jul 18 20:55 |
| schestowitz | He's excellent | Jul 18 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | So rather than one site with IRC we now have two | Jul 18 20:55 |
| mrak | hi all | Jul 18 20:56 |
| schestowitz | In the sense that people spread the work | Jul 18 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Hi, mrak | Jul 18 20:56 |
| mrak | just discovered some fud that microsoft spreads in Ukraine. | Jul 18 20:56 |
| mrak | basically, ukrainian government wants to switch to open source. here is an announce http://tinyurl.com/ln5ze8 | Jul 18 20:58 |
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| mrak | general director of microsoft ukraine follows this up with an interview, where he lies about Open source licensing schemes | Jul 18 20:59 |
| mrak | he said that if someone contributed a code, he eventually would want compensation for this | Jul 18 20:59 |
| mrak | here is a translation of his interview http://tinyurl.com/mosqf6 | Jul 18 20:59 |
| mrak | he also claims that there is no single country where open source adoption in the gvt were successful | Jul 18 21:00 |
| mrak | first claim is in the first paragraph. | Jul 18 21:01 |
| mrak | second -- in the fifth, | Jul 18 21:01 |
| mrak | he also tells nice things about "we need to teach kids most popular os/office packages, not something that local government wanted to stick to" | Jul 18 21:02 |
| trmanco | the translate thingy is no good :-P | Jul 18 21:02 |
| mrak | this was 8th paragraph | Jul 18 21:02 |
| mrak | lemme check | Jul 18 21:02 |
| mrak | trmanco, you mean translation quality is bad? | Jul 18 21:03 |
| trmanco | yeah | Jul 18 21:03 |
| mrak | blame Google :) | Jul 18 21:03 |
| tangles_ | they site IBM, MS and Adobe as world leaders in software development ! | Jul 18 21:03 |
| trmanco | mrak, :-P It does it's best, and in some other languages it's already usable... I'm sure with time this will be fixed, in the meantime I'll read a couple of times to see if I can catch some essential parts | Jul 18 21:05 |
| schestowitz | mrak: thanks, I read | Jul 18 21:05 |
| schestowitz | mrak: thanks, I will write about it | Jul 18 21:06 |
| schestowitz | Did you see the article on Russian schools by any chance? | Jul 18 21:06 |
| mrak | yes | Jul 18 21:06 |
| schestowitz | OK | Jul 18 21:06 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft trolls have been out at full force recently | Jul 18 21:06 |
| schestowitz | THe stuff you guys contribute must be making them nervous | Jul 18 21:07 |
| schestowitz | Russia has antitrust actions vs MS | Jul 18 21:07 |
| tangles_ | It's Vitaly Балюк who is making the MS comments in that article | Jul 18 21:07 |
| schestowitz | THis story won't do Microsoft any good with the government | Jul 18 21:07 |
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| mrak | The guy from Microsoft is called Dmitry Shimkiv | Jul 18 21:08 |
| mrak | Vitaly Balyuk is from government, he is mentioned on the same page with regards to other piece of news. | Jul 18 21:09 |
| mrak | he is not commenting anything there, | Jul 18 21:09 |
| mrak | Ukrainian gvt is easy to bribe, i doubt microsoft is afraid of bad publicity in ukraine | Jul 18 21:10 |
| mrak | moreover, until '00 years 100% ukrainians used pirated MS software at home and at work. | Jul 18 21:10 |
| mrak | this made them addicted to it. | Jul 18 21:11 |
| mrak | this is why ms hardly afraid of losing this market. there is grass-root movement to support Linux, though | Jul 18 21:12 |
| mrak | it even made it to gvt program | Jul 18 21:12 |
| tangles_ | it sounds like a reasonable and balanced approach, there are no comments or FUD from MS, they comments made are from their minister for information, who says Proprietary and open can and should work together. !! | Jul 18 21:13 |
| cftysdfg | * [tangles_] (i=8fee5438@gateway/web/freenode/x-aa15f97b293654e0): CPE-143-238-84-56.nsw.bigpond.net.au/143.238.84.56 | Jul 18 21:14 |
| cftysdfg | its _Mutex_ | Jul 18 21:14 |
| *cftysdfg is now known as fewa | Jul 18 21:14 | |
| tangles_ | oh no,, so ? | Jul 18 21:14 |
| tangles_ | what did I say now that was wrong ? | Jul 18 21:15 |
| MinceR | um, you evaded a ban? | Jul 18 21:15 |
| tangles_ | what ban? i dont know I just loged on. | Jul 18 21:15 |
| trmanco | yeah | Jul 18 21:15 |
| trmanco | lies | Jul 18 21:15 |
| tangles_ | again, what did I say that was wrong, and not in that document. | Jul 18 21:16 |
| trmanco | I'm not referring to that | Jul 18 21:16 |
| trmanco | the "just logged in part" is a lie | Jul 18 21:16 |
| mrak | tangles_, you're reading the first document about gvt intensions | Jul 18 21:16 |
| tangles_ | "This state program is not intended to go solely on openness, destroying it is proprietary software that already works. «Ðаша задача уменьшить затраты на приобретение нового проприетарного ПО, где Ñто возможно. «Our objective to reduce the cost of acquisition of new proprietary software wherever possible. ЕÑли 52% ПО нелицензиоР| Jul 18 21:16 |
| mrak | and i'm talking about interview with gd of microsoft -- second url | Jul 18 21:16 |
| tangles_ | im reading the entire document yes. | Jul 18 21:16 |
| tangles_ | ah ok. | Jul 18 21:17 |
| fewa | tangles_, the rest of the world has moved on to UTF-8 | Jul 18 21:17 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on *!*@gateway/web/freenode/x-aa15f97b293654e0 | Jul 18 21:18 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked tangles_ from #boycottnovell (schestowitz) | Jul 18 21:18 | |
| *mrak was writing a response to him... | Jul 18 21:18 | |
| fewa | the important part is i=8fee* | Jul 18 21:18 |
| trmanco | lol | Jul 18 21:18 |
| schestowitz | mrak: it's a Microsoft troll | Jul 18 21:18 |
| trmanco | he'll be back | Jul 18 21:18 |
| fewa | thats his netmask | Jul 18 21:18 |
| mrak | i see | Jul 18 21:18 |
| schestowitz | He keeps coming back | Jul 18 21:18 |
| trmanco | maybe not back back | Jul 18 21:18 |
| schestowitz | mrak: I'm pasting your information | Jul 18 21:19 |
| schestowitz | I trust you that it is accurate | Jul 18 21:19 |
| schestowitz | I will check later for myself, too | Jul 18 21:19 |
| mrak | both articles are published by well-known and trusted sources | Jul 18 21:20 |
| mrak | i just pointed you to them. | Jul 18 21:20 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jul 18 21:22 |
| schestowitz | I will link to them for reference | Jul 18 21:22 |
| mrak | and information about piracy levels in ukraine is widely available: www.bsa.org lists Ukraine in top20 for 2008 (i believe it was in top5 in 2000 :) | Jul 18 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Many thousands read about Russian schools | Jul 18 21:23 |
| schestowitz | The short-term visits... more will come in the future. | Jul 18 21:23 |
| mrak | what short-term visits? | Jul 18 21:23 |
| schestowitz | All Microsoft can do now is harass. I also have COmes stuff coming | Jul 18 21:23 |
| schestowitz | I might have to compromise reading news for a while and catch up with antitrust | Jul 18 21:23 |
| schestowitz | mrak: getting visits on posts immediately, versus archives | Jul 18 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Some people just google for info (e.g. "russia school ms") and get the information over the years. Most traffic is like that (archives) | Jul 18 21:24 |
| schestowitz | But more importantly: | Jul 18 21:24 |
| schestowitz | It helps me write about Russian in the future | Jul 18 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Every time I mention Russian schools and Linux I will link to the truths behind it | Jul 18 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Cross-cite | Jul 18 21:25 |
| schestowitz | This helps in establishing more complete cases | Jul 18 21:25 |
| mrak | indeed. i wish there were more information about this. Russian press is less transparent than Ukrainian, and both corruption level is very high in both countries. | Jul 18 21:26 |
| mrak | ok. thanks for what you're doing guys, and have a nice week | Jul 18 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | With almost 300 comments per day, there is some kind of a Jihad against BN and against myself. The following post is 100% truth and it needs to be heard. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/18/abuse-and-intimidation-from-trolls/ | Jul 18 22:43 |
| schestowitz | Please spread or Twit or whatever to support BN | Jul 18 22:43 |
| _Hicham_ | vive Schestowitz | Jul 18 22:49 |
| _Hicham_ | death to MS and Novell | Jul 18 22:50 |
| _Hicham_ | we are all schestowitz's soldiers | Jul 18 22:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Can you be specific, @cavang? BTW, I suppose you saw heard. http://bit.ly/Owsok | Jul 18 22:50 | |
| tessier | Let's not get militaristic or anything | Jul 18 22:50 |
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| schestowitz | cavang@schestowitz Just one suggestion: boycottnovell.com looks completely broken in FF 3.0 -> 3.5, I think fixing is needed."" | Jul 18 22:51 |
| schestowitz | tessier: true, we're not | Jul 18 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Does anyone here use Firefox 3.5? | Jul 18 22:51 |
| schestowitz | Does it work OK? | Jul 18 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | I'm trying http://browsershots.org/ | Jul 18 22:51 |
| schestowitz | tessier: is the heavy load looking like legitimate traffic? | Jul 18 22:51 |
| _Hicham_ | I am using FF3.5 | Jul 18 22:52 |
| _Hicham_ | It works great | Jul 18 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Load has been very high for half an hours | Jul 18 22:52 |
| schestowitz | *hour | Jul 18 22:52 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: thanks | Jul 18 22:52 |
| _Hicham_ | Miguel de Icaza should be ashame of what he is doing | Jul 18 22:53 |
| _Hicham_ | if he is that in love with C#, why not boot vala ? | Jul 18 22:53 |
| _Hicham_ | it has the same syntax | Jul 18 22:53 |
| tessier | Yeah, so far it does look legit. The system is handling it just fine. | Jul 18 22:53 |
| _Hicham_ | is it another ddos ? | Jul 18 22:54 |
| tessier | We might want to consider setting up some more caching or mysql results or some such. | Jul 18 22:55 |
| tessier | No, doesn't look like a DDOS. | Jul 18 22:55 |
| _Goblin | MS Shill comment of the year......" Linux is communism. It must be unmasked root and branch." - C.O.L.A | Jul 18 22:56 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: given how the western capitalist system has exposed a flood of fat cat scandals and scams in recent years, it's hardly a poster child for an ideal system lol so maybe being disassociated with that is a good thing......by accident of course | Jul 18 22:57 |
| tessier | I just made a couple performance tweaks to /etc/my.conf | Jul 18 22:58 |
| tessier | schestowitz: You mind if I bounce mysql? Should just take a few seconds. Might get some error pages served during this time. | Jul 18 22:58 |
| tessier | But it should help the system take a whole lot more load and return pages far faster. | Jul 18 22:58 |
| _Goblin | Agreed Thistleweb... | Jul 18 22:59 |
| ThistleWeb | code is open to public scrutiny, process is open to public scrutiny, contributions (and motivations) are open to public scrutiny = bad and secretive. closed code, PR written announcements, EOL products to force costly upgrades, NDA on everything, offers of scraps to shareholders and cistomers = good healthy system which must be supported and defended at all costs | Jul 18 23:00 |
| ThistleWeb | note the . in there btw, I meant to capitalise the C in Closed | Jul 18 23:02 |
| tessier | Just bounced mysql...let's see how it does... | Jul 18 23:03 |
| schestowitz | tessier: sure, I trust what you think is best | Jul 18 23:09 |
| *schestowitz lagging in IRC (thanks, tessier) | Jul 18 23:09 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: the abuse against the site is indicative of fear in the opposing side | Jul 18 23:10 |
| _Hicham_ | Schestowitz VS Miguel : the battle of the year | Jul 18 23:11 |
| _Hicham_ | Schestowitz knocked Miguel down in the first round | Jul 18 23:11 |
| schestowitz | The anti-BN camp libeled me in a very brazen fashion, e.g. http://digg.com/linux_unix/Schestowitz_tries_to_get_Canonical_people_fired_over_mono | Jul 18 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Utter lie | Jul 18 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Puts even ACCESS at risk | Jul 18 23:12 |
| Hmmm. All of this is looking like a set up. | Jul 18 23:13 | |
| schestowitz | Wait. | Jul 18 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's in /. FOP... | Jul 18 23:14 |
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| digg.com, not responding here. | Jul 18 23:25 | |
| schestowitz | More CHrome FUD (Ziff Davis): http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/10-Concerns-We-Have-About-Google-Chrome-OS-783603/ | Jul 18 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Spin angle: Google supporting Linux is bad for Linux | Jul 18 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Like a nice talking point descending from Remoderle | Jul 18 23:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.liliputing.com/2009/07/dell-ponders-chrome-os-moblin-for-future-netbooks.html Dell ponders Chrome OS, Moblin for future netbooks | Jul 18 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I need to ask: | Jul 18 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Most of the Boycott Novell discussion occurs in IRC anyway, so I would not mind requiring registration for comments. Do you think that requiring people to register to comment might help in reducing what is known as "crapflooding"? [from BN comments] | Jul 18 23:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ubuntu 9.04 Snaps Desktop Visaster - http://tinyurl.com/lbjv9u #windows #vista #linux #xp #7 #microsoft | Jul 18 23:38 | |
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| desu | yes | Jul 18 23:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft profits down again for Q4? - http://tinyurl.com/mdwuny #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #7 #windows7 | Jul 18 23:41 | |
| M$ should be down, down, down. | Jul 18 23:43 | |
| schestowitz | http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-07-17-029-35-SC-CY-SW " Editor's Note: Dear Firefox, You Have Non-Windows Users Too" | Jul 18 23:43 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: yes | Jul 18 23:43 |
| schestowitz | The question is, by how much | Jul 18 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Might be consistent y-2-y with last Q | Jul 18 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I.e. about 30% | Jul 18 23:44 |
| schestowitz | They release no news products | Jul 18 23:44 |
| schestowitz | *new | Jul 18 23:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] WSJ: Microsoft Seen Posting Sharp Profit Decline For Fiscal 4Q http://ping.fm/JiY45 Not surprising | Jul 18 23:45 | |
| schestowitz | I remember one COmes exhibits I did where Gates says something like: "we need more evangelization" | Jul 18 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Now Microsoft needs it critically | Jul 18 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Or else mini-microsoft's notion of 15k more layoffs /WILL/ be a reality | Jul 18 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | I am going to change comment settings to require reg | Jul 18 23:53 |
| schestowitz | I will post a policy later | Jul 18 23:55 |
| _Goblin | good idea... | Jul 18 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Something about obscenity and abuse not being acceptable, disclosures of said companies requird manybe | Jul 18 23:56 |
| schestowitz | I'll wait until server load is lower before changing | Jul 18 23:56 |
| _Goblin | if users have to register it will stop much of the trolling... | Jul 18 23:56 |
| schestowitz | It's working hard now | Jul 18 23:56 |
| _Goblin | lxer has proved to be rather poor with incomming links to my site.... only 78 today.... | Jul 18 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Trolls with names like "Eet" and "joo" (sounds like jew)... | Jul 18 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Lxer is a weak site in terms of editorship | Jul 18 23:57 |
| schestowitz | I love TuxMAchines | Jul 18 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Use them (or BN) for your Linux news | Jul 18 23:57 |
| _Goblin | tuxmachines...yeah I do (and of course yours) are both on RSS. | Jul 18 23:58 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=10669 | Jul 18 23:58 |
| schestowitz | LT linked to it just now | Jul 18 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I find links to audiocasts a little pointless because they contain no news, just audio mishmash of topics | Jul 18 23:59 |
| schestowitz | TuxMachines grabs many news that's harder to find | Jul 18 23:59 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : u should make a widget like fsdaily | Jul 18 23:59 |
| *schestowitz hadn't read in TuxMachine for 2 weeks almost | Jul 18 23:59 | |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: who would syndicate it/ | Jul 18 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Would you? | Jul 18 23:59 |
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