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schestowitz | "Microsoft's solution to the netbook problem - which it keeps insisting is not a problem - seems to be to try to shift the entire PC industry in a slightly different direction. Setting the monster's lair on fire could work - if customers are willing to spend on a bigger and sleeker system. The recovering economy, as with all such things these days, could be the ultimate arbiter." | Aug 04 00:48 |
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schestowitz | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/windows_7/microsofts_fiery_solution_to_the_netbook_problem.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535 | Aug 04 00:48 |
fewa | Thats called monopoly abuse | Aug 04 00:49 |
fewa | i.e. Huge ad campaign to make people think they need expensive, heavy, low-battery life systems | Aug 04 00:49 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "A long time ago in a Terminal far far way… #Star Wars ASCII style!" http://tinyurl.com/njxgqp #linux #scifi | Aug 04 00:50 | |
fewa | _Goblin, the telnet one.... that is ____old____ | Aug 04 00:51 |
fewa | (but still cool) | Aug 04 00:51 |
schestowitz | Microsoft Watch is still Microsoft prpaganda | Aug 04 00:51 |
schestowitz | Nicholas Kolakowski | Aug 04 00:51 |
_Goblin | New to me though fewa! | Aug 04 00:52 |
fewa | epic hack | Aug 04 00:52 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: Not in the comments section though! | Aug 04 00:52 |
M$ is the netbook problem. | Aug 04 00:53 | |
fewa | ^^ | Aug 04 00:53 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: MS-Watch returning to the good old days of Linux advocacy due to the majority of its readers being Linux users! | Aug 04 00:53 |
schestowitz | "The case of Lance Davis is an unusual one. Most open source administrators wouldn't just abandon a whole community for months on end. Still, the fact that it happened in this case provides a lesson for project administrators about shared responsibility for key components of any open source project. There need to be a few cooks in the kitchen--not just one." http://ostatic.com/blog/centos-lead-administrator-resurfaces-amidst-lesson | Aug 04 00:53 |
schestowitz | s-learned | Aug 04 00:53 |
schestowitz | http://ostatic.com/blog/centos-lead-administrator-resurfaces-amidst-lessons-learned | Aug 04 00:53 |
fewa | MSFT has to suspend the "free" market | Aug 04 00:53 |
fewa | for their own self interest | Aug 04 00:53 |
schestowitz | MIPS Advances its Android Plans--Outside of Phones http://ostatic.com/blog/mips-advances-its-android-plans-outside-of-phones | Aug 04 00:54 |
schestowitz | http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=218900374&cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_newsRSS | Aug 04 00:55 |
schestowitz | fewa: Robert X. Cringely: "They [Microsoft] have the deepest of pockets, unlimited ambition, and they are willing to lose money for years and years just to make sure that you don't make any money, either. And they are mean, REALLY mean." | Aug 04 00:56 |
M$ Watch is idiot -> Microsoft claims that Windows runs on 96 percent of netbooks, | Aug 04 00:58 | |
lie | Aug 04 00:58 | |
schestowitz | Someone 'stole' _Goblin's theme: http://onepeople.org/node/1563 | Aug 04 00:58 |
schestowitz | twitter: yes | Aug 04 00:58 |
schestowitz | I noticed that | Aug 04 00:58 |
schestowitz | Microsoft press loves quoting that lie | Aug 04 00:58 |
schestowitz | That's why Microsoft seeds it | Aug 04 00:58 |
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fewa | Windows doesn't work with SSDs, so they put in Hard Drives | Aug 04 01:02 |
fewa | and then when someone drops their Window-running netbook they lose all their data | Aug 04 01:02 |
Ah Sweaty B has got to be frantic about all of this, "We want people to be able to get the advantages of lightweight performance and be able to spend more money with us." | Aug 04 01:03 | |
Like people want to just open their wallets and dump the contents for a 10 year old OS on a clunky junk laptop. | Aug 04 01:04 | |
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The market is "maturing" in that it's moving toward 2lb notebooks that run for 10 hours, do what people want and cost less than $200. | Aug 04 01:05 | |
_Goblin | schestowitz: Its not my theme, its one of the Wordpress ones. | Aug 04 01:07 |
schestowitz | The MSBBC article on Red Hat is not as hostile as the interview: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8178929.stm | Aug 04 01:07 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: The Journalist template by Lucian E. Marin — Built for WordPress | Aug 04 01:07 |
fewa | uggh its horrible | Aug 04 01:07 |
schestowitz | fewa: yes, they ruin a market | Aug 04 01:08 |
schestowitz | Russian investigates this abuse | Aug 04 01:08 |
schestowitz | And it's inquiring with OEMs too | Aug 04 01:08 |
I like how those dummies at M$ watch think people still want to run M$ Office. http://slashdot.org/submission/1049029/Ars-Technia-Word-is-Dead-Long-Live-Wikis | Aug 04 01:08 | |
schestowitz | "... be able to spend more money with us."" | Aug 04 01:08 |
fewa | the MSBBC article openly mocks Red Hat | Aug 04 01:08 |
W/O clue | Aug 04 01:08 | |
schestowitz | =it's a privilege to pay Microsoft | Aug 04 01:08 |
schestowitz | Please, Microsoft, allow me to spend more money with you.. | Aug 04 01:08 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: so | Aug 04 01:08 |
Diablo-D3 | I think bill gates is a member of scientology | Aug 04 01:08 |
schestowitz | _Goblin: I know, I was joking about the theme. It's a good theme | Aug 04 01:09 |
only if you sign the EULA, NDA and anti-compete | Aug 04 01:09 | |
schestowitz | _Goblin: Joe Silcocks [sic] uses that too | Aug 04 01:09 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo | Aug 04 01:09 |
schestowitz | fewa: where? | Aug 04 01:10 |
schestowitz | I read it in a rush | Aug 04 01:10 |
schestowitz | I saw some "chaos" thing in it | Aug 04 01:10 |
fewa | ok i guess it gets a little better at the end | Aug 04 01:11 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: Its coincidental you use silcock...I have a collegue with that name.....I'll never be able to look at him in the same way again.... | Aug 04 01:11 |
fewa | but it tries to personify a large group f people on a singular entity | Aug 04 01:12 |
_Goblin | anyways...I'm off to bed....work tomorrow afternoon for a bit.... | Aug 04 01:12 |
fewa | *a single person | Aug 04 01:12 |
_Goblin | good night all.... | Aug 04 01:12 |
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schestowitz | fewa: I read it again | Aug 04 01:12 |
schestowitz | Listen to the interview | Aug 04 01:12 |
schestowitz | The article could be worse | Aug 04 01:12 |
schestowitz | Peter Day was rude and obnoxious | Aug 04 01:12 |
fewa | link? | Aug 04 01:13 |
fewa | actually i dont really watch BBC videos | Aug 04 01:13 |
schestowitz | BBC radio | Aug 04 01:13 |
schestowitz | I wrote about it in BN | Aug 04 01:13 |
schestowitz | Hold oin.. | Aug 04 01:13 |
schestowitz | Here: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/30/bbc-and-microsoft-share-staff/ | Aug 04 01:14 |
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fewa | its the title | Aug 04 01:15 |
fewa | that is just FUD and slander | Aug 04 01:15 |
fewa | service is a product | Aug 04 01:16 |
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HoustonLawy3r | Hi all. I'm trying to view Video Podcasts (e.g. MSNBC, etc.) on Linux. Any thoughts how I can do this? | Aug 04 01:25 |
schestowitz | fewa: yes, I guess so | Aug 04 01:25 |
schestowitz | But it's MSBBC | Aug 04 01:25 |
schestowitz | Not GNUBC | Aug 04 01:25 |
schestowitz | HoustonLawy3r: what does it use for streaming? | Aug 04 01:26 |
HoustonLawy3r | humm... formerly iTunes downloaded them. | Aug 04 01:26 |
HoustonLawy3r | I think mp4 format. | Aug 04 01:26 |
schestowitz | There must be some other choice/route, no? | Aug 04 01:26 |
schestowitz | Oh | Aug 04 01:26 |
schestowitz | You can download and play it then.... assuming the codecs are all installed | Aug 04 01:26 |
HoustonLawy3r | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8132577/ | Aug 04 01:27 |
fewa | but yeah, im overly hostile | Aug 04 01:27 |
schestowitz | I use Kaffeine as the media player for 'ugly' formats | Aug 04 01:27 |
schestowitz | fewa: watch the interview (well, listen rather) | Aug 04 01:27 |
schestowitz | I wrote about it briefly | Aug 04 01:27 |
schestowitz | Peter Day is a Microsoft-loving' dinosaur for all I can tell | Aug 04 01:27 |
schestowitz | Ol' Auntie and it's 'IP' | Aug 04 01:28 |
HoustonLawy3r | looking though for automatic downloading, e.g. like iTunes has, as terrible as it was, it kept a list of my podcasts and downloaded them regularly so I can watch 'em with the morning coffee. | Aug 04 01:28 |
schestowitz | Matthew managed to keep patient and nice | Aug 04 01:28 |
schestowitz | Despite Peter being an arse | Aug 04 01:28 |
schestowitz | HoustonLawy3r: you can maybe do that too with a program like Totem, I never tried | Aug 04 01:29 |
HoustonLawy3r | schestowitz: I'll check it out. You don't watch podcasts? | Aug 04 01:30 |
schestowitz | HoustonLawy3r: http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/ | Aug 04 01:30 |
schestowitz | HoustonLawy3r: I do | Aug 04 01:30 |
schestowitz | I either stream them or get Ogg. I avoid MP3 but can play those too | Aug 04 01:30 |
fewa | schestowitz, ugghh how dispicable | Aug 04 01:30 |
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HoustonLawy3r | will Juicereceiver work with video podcasts? I'm asking because I think I've seen it before. | Aug 04 01:31 |
schestowitz | No idea.. | Aug 04 01:31 |
schestowitz | I did a GOogle search | Aug 04 01:31 |
HoustonLawy3r | haha ok | Aug 04 01:31 |
schestowitz | http://radio.about.com/od/softwaretogetpodcast1/Software_and_News_Aggregators_to_Receive_Podcasts.htm | Aug 04 01:31 |
schestowitz | Billions in Lehman Claims Could Bury an Elusive Insurer < http://www.cnbc.com/id/32235392 > | Aug 04 01:33 |
schestowitz | Bashing Goldman Sachs Is Simply a Game for Fools: Michael Lewis < http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a2X3hNaWcbeg > | Aug 04 01:34 |
schestowitz | 'Rumor No. 1: “Goldman Sachs controls the U.S. government.” ' | Aug 04 01:34 |
HoustonLawy3r | Thanks. I'll check them out. | Aug 04 01:37 |
fewa | lawl, Goldman Sachs has more people in government than practically anyone else | Aug 04 01:38 |
wallclimber | Ha! I wandered off, got involved with work and phone calls and forgot I had xchat running... | Aug 04 01:39 |
fewa | Henry Paulson, for example, which defrauded to Government for GS | Aug 04 01:41 |
fewa | and was a former GS head | Aug 04 01:41 |
Micheal Lewis knows what he's talking about. | Aug 04 01:42 | |
fewa | hijacked $12.5 Bil from the AIG bailout, straight to GS coffers | Aug 04 01:42 |
fewa | OK, the article is well written | Aug 04 01:43 |
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LOL -> Our current financial crisis has its roots in a single easily identifiable source: the envy others felt toward Goldman Sachs. | Aug 04 01:47 | |
schestowitz | fewa: creeeeeeeeeeeepy. http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/hi-res-henry-paulson.jpg | Aug 04 01:47 |
schestowitz | gn | Aug 04 01:48 |
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Ick, they do all look alike http://arran.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/willem-dafoe-vampire1.jpg | Aug 04 02:28 | |
http://www.vampire.info/sites/Vampire5.jpg | Aug 04 02:29 | |
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now, this is creepy http://a.getbackimages.com/uri/w514_h800_cfalse_K1219234645/best-vampire-salem-s-lot/image/4/0/1/1/4011321.jpg | Aug 04 02:33 | |
Xarver | ? :P | Aug 04 02:38 |
ah, I'm taking Michael Lewis's observation that Goldman Sachs people look like each other to it's logical conclusion. | Aug 04 02:52 | |
See http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a2X3hNaWcbeg | Aug 04 02:52 | |
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follow the links to pictures at the end of the article. | Aug 04 02:53 | |
US Post Office moves to GNU/Linux http://slashdot.org/submission/1037791/US-Post-Office-Moves-to-GNULinux | Aug 04 02:53 | |
must be time for M$ to shut it down. | Aug 04 02:53 | |
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_12984706 | Aug 04 02:54 | |
Note that SJMN was recently bought by the Gates Foundation. | Aug 04 02:54 | |
cubezzz | lol, a microsoft ad poped up with that URL | Aug 04 02:57 |
cubezzz | foruntately I'm immune | Aug 04 02:57 |
cubezzz | anyway, it seems microsoft isn't the dominant force it used to be, especially outside of North America | Aug 04 02:59 |
if M$ is not so dominant where computers are made, where's your 10 hour battery life, gnu/linux, ARM netbook? | Aug 04 03:05 | |
this idiot again, David Coursey http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/169498/fccs_interest_in_apple_atandt_google_is_most_welcome.html | Aug 04 03:05 | |
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another M$ retail partner weakens and falters http://www.pcworld.com/article/169526/name_change_wont_save_radioshack.html | Aug 04 03:46 | |
there are so few of them left that they should all be doing very well | Aug 04 03:46 | |
not looking good http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3ARSH | Aug 04 03:48 | |
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dumb, it's a 17' tall mac with Windows keys http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/theshackkeyboard-2.jpg | Aug 04 03:54 | |
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-> RadioShack Corp. reported second quarter net income of $48.8 million | Aug 04 03:58 | |
that's not really a lot for the kind of national presence and reputation they have. | Aug 04 03:59 | |
http://www.fwbusinesspress.com/display.php?id=10707 | Aug 04 03:59 | |
though it seems they do better this year than last, both are huge disappointments | Aug 04 04:00 | |
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ha ha http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/08/03/2125223/AP-Will-Sell-You-a-License-To-Words-It-Doesnt-Own | Aug 04 04:06 | |
" If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea." | Aug 04 04:06 | |
those 26 words were shamelessly sold by the AP. | Aug 04 04:06 | |
for $12. What a business model. | Aug 04 04:07 | |
I wonder what the whole constitution would cost | Aug 04 04:07 | |
cubezzz | Radio Shack is gone here | Aug 04 04:08 |
cubezzz | which is unfortunate since I liked shopping there in the past | Aug 04 04:09 |
fewa | have alot of snuff noone else carries | Aug 04 04:09 |
have to order online now :-( | Aug 04 04:10 | |
Radio Shack part quality took a big quality decline over the last 20 years or so. | Aug 04 04:11 | |
cubezzz | they were one of the first to sell computers in North America with the TRS-80's | Aug 04 04:11 |
cubezzz | Kim-1 and Altair weren't really computers in my book | Aug 04 04:12 |
A hand etching mask is typical. 20 years ago, it came from Denmark. Then Taiwan, with a big decrease. Now, if they even carry it, they probably come from China. | Aug 04 04:12 | |
*shreddar back | Aug 04 04:12 | |
The part from Taiwan was not usable. | Aug 04 04:12 | |
cubezzz | I liked the old science fair kits :) | Aug 04 04:13 |
ha ha, domain name thief arrested. http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/08/03/1731226/First-Ever-Criminal-Arrest-For-Domain-Name-Theft | Aug 04 04:14 | |
it's about time | Aug 04 04:14 | |
cubezzz | I'm not too happy with retail for electronics or computer stuff these days | Aug 04 04:15 |
cubezzz | so yeah, pretty much forced to buy online | Aug 04 04:16 |
shreddar | Can someone tell me specifically how people have been messing with the ODF Wikipedia articles? | Aug 04 04:18 |
shreddar | I look in the history and can't figure out what the issue is. | Aug 04 04:19 |
shreddar | Probably some wiki jargon I'm missing | Aug 04 04:20 |
hmmm, Slashdot covered the death of word article after all http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/03/1522245/20-Years-of-MS-Word-and-Why-It-Should-Die-a-Swift-Death | Aug 04 04:20 | |
cubezzz | word star -> WP -> Word -> ???? | Aug 04 04:21 |
Wiki | Aug 04 04:22 | |
cubezzz | I guess blogger is the next writing tool | Aug 04 04:22 |
the Ars Technia article does a good job of explaining how the typical M$ doc flow is broken and how Wikis do much better. | Aug 04 04:23 | |
shreddar | Some up: Wiki was made for the internet and Word was made for the printer | Aug 04 04:25 |
here's my excerpt -> People keep doing [passing poorly revisioned Word docs in email and storing them in random network locations], but it is an astoundingly awful way to work. | Aug 04 04:25 | |
I chose MediaWiki, the open-source software that powers Wikipedia. It was relatively easy to install on a virtual Linux server. ... The real win, however, was that everyone started using it. One day you wake up and everything is on a wiki somewhere. How did that happen? It happens in much the same way as typewriters suddenly disappearedbecause a better alternative arrived. Wordand I know I'll be attacked for saying thisis the new | Aug 04 04:25 | |
http://slashdot.org/submission/1049029/Ars-Technia-Word-is-Dead-Long-Live-Wikis | Aug 04 04:25 | |
mostly no one needs to print anymore. | Aug 04 04:25 | |
cubezzz | I'm sure google has an online app too | Aug 04 04:26 |
shreddar | Yeah I don't epecially with ink prices | Aug 04 04:26 |
cubezzz | paperless office ftw! :) | Aug 04 04:26 |
finally | Aug 04 04:26 | |
all it took was a little software freedom and time | Aug 04 04:26 | |
wiki's offer revision control, easy search, organization and distribution. | Aug 04 04:27 | |
cubezzz | when I invoice a customer it's usually pdf sent by email | Aug 04 04:27 |
sure, but you keep the record somewhere else | Aug 04 04:27 | |
and your notes on that customer are far more important than a single invoice | Aug 04 04:28 | |
shreddar | So twitter do you know about the Wiki vandals? | Aug 04 04:29 |
no, my specialty is Slashdot vandalism | Aug 04 04:30 | |
shreddar | Oh then is schesowitz awake? | Aug 04 04:30 |
Roy sleeps. | Aug 04 04:30 | |
Roy has a few articles on Wiki vandalism and we know M$ pays people to write favorably in Wikipedia. | Aug 04 04:31 | |
shreddar | Yeah but I wanna know what edits they made. | Aug 04 04:31 |
shreddar | The history links don't help me. | Aug 04 04:31 |
cubezzz | go vandalize Microsoft's page then :) | Aug 04 04:31 |
cubezzz | j/k | Aug 04 04:31 |
cubezzz | "Microsoft's bloatware is extremely aggravating..." | Aug 04 04:32 |
like with most astrotufing, we can be sure they bury the damage in hundreds of pointless and trivial edits. | Aug 04 04:32 | |
this makes it hard to find. | Aug 04 04:32 | |
crap flooding the records. | Aug 04 04:33 | |
if you really want to find them, please do. | Aug 04 04:33 | |
Roy points to several suspect characters. You could start by researching their edits. | Aug 04 04:33 | |
shreddar | Well schestowitz like to 3 of them but I don't understand wiki code | Aug 04 04:34 |
That's what I do on Slashdot. It's easier to find the pattern of behavior by looking at individual accounts than it is to find it in the sea of everyone's edits. | Aug 04 04:34 | |
You look at the history page and it shows you what was changed and gives you the option to compare versions. | Aug 04 04:35 | |
digging up moles is best done by looking at the pattern of posting by specific accounts. | Aug 04 04:36 | |
shreddar | Yeah I saw it and I can't tell is smackBot is deleting or adding stuff. | Aug 04 04:36 |
When you see them do something really annoying, just go look to see what else they do. | Aug 04 04:36 | |
smackbot is also a slashdot troll, I think. | Aug 04 04:37 | |
nope dne | Aug 04 04:37 | |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SmackBot | Aug 04 04:38 | |
shreddar | It is not a sock puppet, but rather an automated or semi-automated account for making repetitive edits that would be extremely tedious to do manually. | Aug 04 04:38 |
obnoxious ass admits to using automated editing tools. | Aug 04 04:39 | |
hmmmph. | Aug 04 04:39 | |
fewa | smackbot does this {{fact}}-->{{fact|July 2009}} | Aug 04 04:40 |
fewa | and other similar things | Aug 04 04:40 |
shreddar | So he claims things as fact? | Aug 04 04:41 |
fewa | no he dates the tag | Aug 04 04:41 |
shreddar | Oh are they the wrong dates or something? | Aug 04 04:41 |
fewa | no its that people insert without a date, and it says when the tag was entered | Aug 04 04:42 |
shreddar | ok | Aug 04 04:44 |
crowded smart phone market ignites into firesales http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/03/AR2009080301881.html | Aug 04 04:50 | |
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shreddar | night night | Aug 04 04:59 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Petition for Amazon to drop DRM from Kindle. http://ur1.ca/8el4 | Aug 04 05:35 | |
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Omar871 | Hi guys. | Aug 04 06:15 |
Omar871 | I'm starting to believe that the end of Microsoft will happen on Steve Ballmer's hands: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10301028-16.html | Aug 04 06:15 |
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ah yes, this is a fun distro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrumi_Linux | Aug 04 06:59 | |
sadly, they don't still use Enlightenment | Aug 04 06:59 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why the CLI Can Never be Replaced by GUI Entirely http://ping.fm/6Ydsv | Aug 04 08:26 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Visual Changes in Next GNOME Desktop http://ping.fm/jueHx | Aug 04 08:31 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of gOS 3.1 (GNU/Linux) http://ping.fm/Ck7A5 | Aug 04 08:34 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of Massive GNU/Linux Live DVD, SuperGamer http://ping.fm/hExCD | Aug 04 08:35 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Red Hat and Cisco Put Closer Around GNU/Linux http://ping.fm/VvlEC | Aug 04 08:38 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Red Hat in the MSBBC http://ping.fm/0hAIw | Aug 04 08:39 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux Mint 7 with KDE4 is Released http://ping.fm/XABQV | Aug 04 08:41 | |
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_goblin | morning all | Aug 04 08:43 |
schestowitz | Morning. | Aug 04 08:44 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux Advances to Almost Everything in Electronics http://ping.fm/0WXRw | Aug 04 08:45 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] People Wipe Windows Off Sub-notebooks to Install More Modern GNU/Linux http://ping.fm/KmJyP http://ping.fm/Yj8j6 | Aug 04 08:49 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] After a Billion Firefox Downloads Brand Recognition Can Improve http://ping.fm/JmDVl | Aug 04 08:56 | |
amarsh04 | hot water heater being replaced, on a separate circuit but the circuit with the pc lost power briefly whilst installing a new kernel | Aug 04 08:57 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Google Tries to Introduce People to Free Software/Linux Programming http://ping.fm/V6XlB | Aug 04 08:59 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ogg Still Central in Discussion About Royalty-Free Web Video http://ping.fm/humDK http://ping.fm/XKOh9 | Aug 04 09:02 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] FSF Organises to Eliminate DRM from Electronic Books http://ping.fm/AI4qd | Aug 04 09:04 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Fair-Use Hater Associated Press is 'Stealing' from the Public Domain http://ping.fm/RxJOz | Aug 04 09:06 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft-funded SCO Glued a Corner http://ping.fm/saJDB | Aug 04 09:09 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Google is Mincing and Eating Microsoft's Cash Cow http://ping.fm/Eh3He | Aug 04 09:12 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Got work today :( shame.... Mepis 8 review nearly finished as is Zenwalk Gnome.... | Aug 04 09:12 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So Andre Da Costa has (finally) admitted to posting under another handle on Cnet (Mr Dee)...I wonder why? #microsoft #windows #vista | Aug 04 09:18 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] You can see his confession on his Twitter. Question is, why have two Cnet commenting accounts? #microsoft #windows #vista #linux | Aug 04 09:19 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] At least this latest confession was made by him an not an alleged "friend" (remember the laptop "gift" incident)...#microsoft #windows | Aug 04 09:20 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think this can be another example I can include in my submissions to the FTC. #microsoft #vista #7 (BTW screengrab taken Andre) | Aug 04 09:21 | |
schestowitz | Hmmmmmmmm......... http://twit.tv/floss74 Internet 2????? | Aug 04 09:25 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Dear NPG, are you sure you're not just being bloody stupid? Love, EFF. http://bit.ly/jAMeY #wikipedia | Aug 04 09:31 | |
amarsh04 | children of exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer have gone on Chinese television criticising their mother http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/08/04/2645985.htm | Aug 04 09:44 |
schestowitz | Yikes | Aug 04 09:54 |
schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8168 | Aug 04 09:55 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @shadowdaddy RT @arturoronchi perfect b/c twitter is too wordy http://tr.im/voWK | Aug 04 09:59 | |
amarsh04 | schestowitz, I saw that story earlier, either because you had posted it or because it was on #groklaw or groklaw.net | Aug 04 10:03 |
schestowitz | I've just upgraded 2 WordPress blogs. It is good practice to have a look around some pages now to ensure all behave normally. | Aug 04 10:04 |
schestowitz | I still need to do BN upgrade | Aug 04 10:05 |
amarsh04 | It was on the news earlier that the .us "birthers" had used an Adelaide man's birth certificate to create the fake Obama first certificate | Aug 04 10:06 |
schestowitz | Upgrade successful | Aug 04 10:11 |
schestowitz | [boycottn@boycottnovell wordpress]$ cp -r * ../../public_html/ | Aug 04 10:11 |
schestowitz | On the other two sites I don't need to do it from the CLI :-/ | Aug 04 10:11 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] off to interview with company that runs debian. not bloody red hat. could be good. | Aug 04 10:11 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Mr Dee” from CNET Received Laptop Gift/Bribe from Microsoft http://ping.fm/pbqiK | Aug 04 10:50 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Only Gave 14,010 Lines of Code http://ping.fm/wkTd9 | Aug 04 11:36 | |
schestowitz | bbl | Aug 04 11:41 |
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trmanco | wow | Aug 04 11:50 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Afinal a Microsoft apenas contribui 14010 linhas de código novo para o kernel | Aug 04 13:14 | |
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schestowitz | Google, Yahoo Fined In Argentina Because Searches On Band Name Leads To Porn Sites http://techdirt.com/articles/20090803/0237435749.shtml | Aug 04 15:13 |
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schestowitz | Main TPB man is leaving: "Today marks the end of a small era for me, but I am simply leaving a role in order to be a person instead." http://blog.brokep.com/2009/08/03/interlocked-fibers/ | Aug 04 15:24 |
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schestowitz | AES encryption not as tough as you think http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/03/new_crypto_attack/ | Aug 04 15:29 |
schestowitz | 3 critical bugs in FF | Aug 04 15:29 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Flying motorbikes to take off next year: http://ping.fm/JFsm8 | Aug 04 15:29 | |
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schestowitz | US cyber-security tsar steps down < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8182931.stm >. THis is bad cause there may be candidates from the Redmond Monopolist | Aug 04 15:43 |
schestowitz | Scientists get a million Linux kernels to run at once < http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/43480/108/ > | Aug 04 15:44 |
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schestowitz | Why Schmidt Had To Go < http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/03/why-schmidt-had-to-go/ > | Aug 04 15:54 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Citizen Journalism Flourishes in Dark Corners < http://ping.fm/AEm00 > The hope is for decentralisation | Aug 04 15:57 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Debian and Ubuntu: uneasy coexistence continues < http://ping.fm/aOBgF > :-/ | Aug 04 15:57 | |
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schestowitz | Hehe. http://www.silicon.com/publicsector/0,3800010403,39470603,00.htm This is lamer given the allegation | Aug 04 16:30 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard: Wikipedia FUD http://bit.ly/M2cUu | Aug 04 16:33 | |
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schestowitz | Google News Organizes a Lot More of the World's Information < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/08/04/google-news-organizes-a-lot-more-of-the-worlds-information > | Aug 04 16:59 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/3126311012 To think I thought Dee was just a jerk RT @schestowitz CNET commentator "Mr. Dee" turns out to be Microsoft-compensated http://ping.fm/pbqiK | Aug 04 17:01 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/cavang/status/3126431353 "cavang@schestowitz Oh that Mr Dee. And I thought he was retarded" | Aug 04 17:02 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu gets desktop support for small businesses http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39703958,00.htm | Aug 04 17:04 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] We believe in the freedom to read - I just signed the petition at http://ur1.ca/8el4 to drop DRM on the Kindle | Aug 04 17:08 | |
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schestowitz | wb, Xarver | Aug 04 17:17 |
Xarver | Hello | Aug 04 17:17 |
schestowitz | "Naked CIO" is attacking Linux again... as always | Aug 04 17:18 |
Xarver | :P | Aug 04 17:19 |
schestowitz | http://software.silicon.com/os/0,39024651,39469032,00.htm | Aug 04 17:19 |
schestowitz | Been slammed before for improper arguments and Microsoft affinity... 'naked' CIO | Aug 04 17:19 |
trmanco | http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon1984 | Aug 04 17:23 |
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trmanco | china is censoring the access to chromium | Aug 04 17:26 |
schestowitz | There's some new twitter challenger called Glide | Aug 04 17:26 |
trmanco | http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-discuss/browse_thread/thread/2351db9dca8a58f6 | Aug 04 17:26 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "chromium.org cannot be accessed from china. can anyone help me on this?" http://ping.fm/YHNuW | Aug 04 17:28 | |
schestowitz | Domestically, China is very suppressive, the US foreign affairs are as bad, but not at the domestic level, ever. CHina also blocked SF | Aug 04 17:29 |
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thenixedreport | Hey everyone. | Aug 04 17:29 |
thenixedreport | How goes it? | Aug 04 17:29 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:30 |
thenixedreport | I decided to give gNewSense a go. | Aug 04 17:30 |
thenixedreport | Like it so far. | Aug 04 17:30 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:30 |
schestowitz | Does it work with everything? | Aug 04 17:31 |
schestowitz | BTW, you're mentioned here: http://mono-nono.com/2009/08/04/is-the-mono-war-unproductive/ | Aug 04 17:31 |
thenixedreport | I noticed. | Aug 04 17:31 |
thenixedreport | I also commented. | Aug 04 17:32 |
thenixedreport | I've also been doing some research into the Church of Emacs parody. | Aug 04 17:32 |
thenixedreport | Talented comedians could probably make the thing hilarious. | Aug 04 17:32 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:32 |
thenixedreport | Hmm... | Aug 04 17:33 |
thenixedreport | With CentOS, is there a way to install from a LiveCD? | Aug 04 17:34 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.heliosinitiative.org/news.php | Aug 04 17:34 |
schestowitz | "A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on the ability to pay for it." | Aug 04 17:34 |
schestowitz | thenixedreport: you'd think RMS would do it better after SO much practice.... | Aug 04 17:35 |
schestowitz | I'm embarrassed to see how rude he can be to interviewees | Aug 04 17:35 |
ThistleWeb | centos has a live cd? | Aug 04 17:35 |
schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 04 17:35 |
schestowitz | So does Scientific | Aug 04 17:35 |
ThistleWeb | it's hard to imagine a linux distro that's not available as a live cd these days though, it seems well engrained | Aug 04 17:36 |
schestowitz | Even RIPLinux? :-) | Aug 04 17:36 |
schestowitz | Live RIP | Aug 04 17:36 |
thenixedreport | Btw, gNewSense literally avoids non-free stuff. | Aug 04 17:37 |
schestowitz | http://rip.7bf.de/current/ | Aug 04 17:37 |
ThistleWeb | I'm waiting for a Deadora Live CD | Aug 04 17:37 |
thenixedreport | I put it on my Breeze 3110 system, because it has Intel graphics. | Aug 04 17:37 |
thenixedreport | It picked up everything easily. | Aug 04 17:37 |
schestowitz | thenixedreport: I hear they work on removing Mono, too | Aug 04 17:37 |
ThistleWeb | there's already a poster made for it "wanted, dead or alive" | Aug 04 17:37 |
schestowitz | thenixedreport: is that a GWB poster? | Aug 04 17:38 |
thenixedreport | Oh, and you do have to remove Tomboy, F-Spot, etc... | Aug 04 17:38 |
thenixedreport | ? | Aug 04 17:38 |
thenixedreport | GWB? | Aug 04 17:38 |
ThistleWeb | dubya | Aug 04 17:38 |
thenixedreport | Oh. | Aug 04 17:38 |
thenixedreport | What is? | Aug 04 17:38 |
schestowitz | Bush said, ""wanted, dead or alive" | Aug 04 17:38 |
schestowitz | Texan thing.. | Aug 04 17:38 |
thenixedreport | Ah. | Aug 04 17:38 |
ThistleWeb | yeah, just like'um achestoral cowboys | Aug 04 17:38 |
thenixedreport | Except Bush was not a real cowboy. | Aug 04 17:38 |
ThistleWeb | true | Aug 04 17:39 |
thenixedreport | His father was from the east coast originally. | Aug 04 17:39 |
schestowitz | He is said to be faking the accent | Aug 04 17:39 |
thenixedreport | That is actually true. | Aug 04 17:39 |
ThistleWeb | I'm just surprised someone aint spotted the deadora name | Aug 04 17:39 |
schestowitz | That's what I heard. Trained to change the Harvard-acquired background and instead shop down trees and stuff | Aug 04 17:39 |
schestowitz | *chop | Aug 04 17:39 |
thenixedreport | If you listen to his speeches while he campaigned for governor, he sounds a lot different than he did as president of the U.S. | Aug 04 17:39 |
schestowitz | Some say he deliberately mispronounces workds | Aug 04 17:40 |
ThistleWeb | you could put that down to living in the area for longer, spending more time with the peeps who all speak in a simialr accent | Aug 04 17:40 |
schestowitz | That leads to the 'rich' people mocking him and getting him sympathy from lower classes. That's what I heard | Aug 04 17:40 |
ThistleWeb | you pick stuff up and mimic it without thinking about it | Aug 04 17:40 |
thenixedreport | Bingo. | Aug 04 17:41 |
thenixedreport | He knew how to be a politician. | Aug 04 17:41 |
ThistleWeb | yeah, well he ahd to find something | Aug 04 17:41 |
ThistleWeb | he was a useless POS at everything lese | Aug 04 17:41 |
ThistleWeb | else* | Aug 04 17:41 |
ThistleWeb | uhm....hang on..... | Aug 04 17:41 |
schestowitz | Wearing battle gears ans vests... McCain did the same | Aug 04 17:41 |
schestowitz | Vietnam/Korea war stories... | Aug 04 17:41 |
schestowitz | At least he actually fought | Aug 04 17:41 |
ThistleWeb | he was a useless POS as a Pres too | Aug 04 17:41 |
schestowitz | The GWB cabinet was all chickenhawks | Aug 04 17:42 |
schestowitz | Even his daughters didn't serve, if memory serves.... | Aug 04 17:42 |
ThistleWeb | foghorn leghorn | Aug 04 17:42 |
schestowitz | Longhorn? | Aug 04 17:42 |
schestowitz | Longhorn Reborn=WIndows 7 | Aug 04 17:42 |
ThistleWeb | ah say, ah say, ash boy | Aug 04 17:42 |
ThistleWeb | 2that there is a terrorist, not an ally" | Aug 04 17:43 |
schestowitz | BTW, I have no problem with them not serving, BUT.... | Aug 04 17:43 |
schestowitz | The issue is that of hypocrisy | Aug 04 17:43 |
schestowitz | That they send kids to die abroad when it fact they did nothing of this kind themselves | Aug 04 17:43 |
trmanco | This is Web.com's first appearance as joint number one. Web.com is the only company in this month's top ten whose site is served by Microsoft IIS/5.0. | Aug 04 17:43 |
schestowitz | Armchair warriers. | Aug 04 17:43 |
schestowitz | *iors | Aug 04 17:43 |
trmanco | http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2009/08/04/most_reliable_hosting_company_sites_in_july_2009.html | Aug 04 17:44 |
ThistleWeb | to be fair, you cant get to the top jobs in the land if you put your ass potentially in the line of a bullet | Aug 04 17:45 |
schestowitz | Hehe. I know without looking, trmanco | Aug 04 17:45 |
schestowitz | They need to clean up | Aug 04 17:45 |
thenixedreport | Hey Roy. | Aug 04 17:45 |
thenixedreport | In terms of software and liberty, which would you view as more appropriate? | Aug 04 17:45 |
schestowitz | trmanco: they can't handle Linux 2.6 | Aug 04 17:45 |
thenixedreport | Free Software? | Aug 04 17:45 |
thenixedreport | Or... | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | Freedomware? | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:46 |
schestowitz | Freedomware | Aug 04 17:46 |
schestowitz | Like libervis says | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:46 |
schestowitz | Free means cheap in people's minds | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | Exactly. | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | I remember when I first blogged that word, and then suddenly, it shows up in other places. | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | I was so excited. | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:46 |
thenixedreport | Even if it had nothing to do with what I wrote. | Aug 04 17:47 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:47 |
thenixedreport | So has anyone ever run CentOS? | Aug 04 17:48 |
thenixedreport | And if so, what are your thoughts? | Aug 04 17:48 |
schestowitz | BN runs on CentOS | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | Sweet. | Aug 04 17:50 |
schestowitz | CentOS is just RHEL without the support. BN used to be on RHEL | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | What about as a desktop? | Aug 04 17:50 |
schestowitz | Never tried | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | Ah. | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | I'm about to. | Aug 04 17:50 |
schestowitz | I used Red Hat 9 and Fedoras | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | In VirtualBox anyway. | Aug 04 17:50 |
schestowitz | Not much in the reops I think | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | Fedora is good too. | Aug 04 17:50 |
thenixedreport | Unfortunately, it is bleeding edge, so not all vendors are going to be able to keep up. | Aug 04 17:51 |
schestowitz | *repos filled with server stuff, I imagine... | Aug 04 17:51 |
schestowitz | But it's RHEL compatible, so it might make a difference (binary compatibility) | Aug 04 17:51 |
thenixedreport | For example, in the latest version, some ATI cards may have a hard time running FGLRX. | Aug 04 17:51 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:51 |
schestowitz | thenixedreport: so you reburn the CD and try another distro | Aug 04 17:51 |
schestowitz | I'm prsonally happy about KDE4 | Aug 04 17:51 |
schestowitz | It's shaping up well. I used 4.1 and it was good. 4.3 looks a lot better (sjvn review) | Aug 04 17:52 |
schestowitz | KDE has new Oxygem and Plasma | Aug 04 17:52 |
schestowitz | New: http://www.kdenews.org/2009/08/03/ongoing-oxygen-icons-usability-survey-kdevelop | Aug 04 17:52 |
schestowitz | It looks better than the competition | Aug 04 17:52 |
thenixedreport | They're going to blow GNOME out of the water. | Aug 04 17:52 |
schestowitz | Qt has for long been better (black shades) than OS X and *yuck* Windows [any version] | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | GNOME is good | Aug 04 17:53 |
thenixedreport | Yeah. | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | They get rid of icons now | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | No idea why | Aug 04 17:53 |
thenixedreport | It's a great cross platform tool. | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | I like buttons with icons | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | Qt has some too | Aug 04 17:53 |
thenixedreport | I liked the icons too. :( | Aug 04 17:53 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | Many developers don't use them | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | "V" for OK, "X" in red for cancel | Aug 04 17:53 |
schestowitz | In QtKDE there's not much in terms of icons, except toolbars | Aug 04 17:54 |
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schestowitz | pts2 is out: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pts_20_release&num=1 | Aug 04 17:58 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I wish there was a blob-free Mandriva derivative, like BLAG for Fedora and gnewsense to Ubuntu | Aug 04 18:01 | |
trmanco | a new snapshot of arch linux is near release | Aug 04 18:01 |
schestowitz | Adding a widescreen monitor in Linux < http://www.ghacks.net/2009/08/03/adding-a-widescreen-monitor-in-linux/ > <---hm..... this out to have been GUI only.. works for me | Aug 04 18:02 |
schestowitz | trmanco: have you seen zfs snapshots? | Aug 04 18:02 |
schestowitz | I heard FLOSS Weekly on Solaris | Aug 04 18:03 |
schestowitz | I'm becoming envious of zfs. We need the same in btrfs... you can watch the history of file changes and backtrack selectively. Super-useful.... | Aug 04 18:03 |
trmanco | thats a file system, never used it before | Aug 04 18:03 |
schestowitz | http://twit.tv/floss75 | Aug 04 18:04 |
trmanco | it's kinda like a version control system I guess | Aug 04 18:04 |
thenixedreport | I like how OpenSolaris looks, but I wasn't able to get OpenOffice.org onto it. | Aug 04 18:04 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 18:04 |
schestowitz | trmanco: yes | Aug 04 18:04 |
trmanco | that's weird | Aug 04 18:04 |
schestowitz | Mac OS X ran away | Aug 04 18:04 |
schestowitz | No zfs | Aug 04 18:04 |
trmanco | kde 4.3 is officially out | Aug 04 18:05 |
schestowitz | This is the chance Linux has to serve another blow, feature-wise | Aug 04 18:05 |
schestowitz | To both Mac OS X and Vista 7 | Aug 04 18:05 |
schestowitz | btrfs is in 2.6.30 iirc | Aug 04 18:05 |
trmanco | mac os ran away from what? | Aug 04 18:05 |
schestowitz | trmanco: yes, predictable release date | Aug 04 18:05 |
thenixedreport | Google? | Aug 04 18:05 |
trmanco | ah | Aug 04 18:05 |
thenixedreport | Psystar? | Aug 04 18:05 |
schestowitz | Beranger looked at kde.org JavaScript | Aug 04 18:05 |
schestowitz | It gave away release date | Aug 04 18:05 |
schestowitz | thenixedreport: zfs | Aug 04 18:06 |
schestowitz | They had more urgent shiiiinies.... and sparking...... gadgets on fira | Aug 04 18:06 |
schestowitz | *fire | Aug 04 18:06 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] KDE 4.3 is out http://ping.fm/rlcSn | Aug 04 18:12 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks London lawyers threaten "copyright infringement" over journal releasing legal threat letters http://bit.ly/bwvtQ | Aug 04 18:15 | |
trmanco | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10302768-248.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 | Aug 04 18:18 |
trmanco | another microsoft fail | Aug 04 18:18 |
trmanco | seen they will be closing bing too | Aug 04 18:18 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu 9.04 – First Impressions < http://techevolve.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/ubuntu-9-04-first-impressions/ > "Well, not much of a first impressions on Ubuntu, is it? For lack of time (and an angry mom behind my shoulder waiting to read her e-mails), I’ll post my real first impressions in a bit." | Aug 04 18:19 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] World Net Daily could be the greatest news source in the world, maybe http://is.gd/22iXV | Aug 04 18:23 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I say we find the geek responsible for http://www.lichfielddc.gov.uk/data and sneak them into every other local council in the UK in turn. | Aug 04 18:29 | |
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schestowitz | zoobab01: http://www.h-online.com/open/Open-Invention-Network-starts-buying-patents--/news/113918 http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/open-invention-network-announces-launch,912851.shtml | Aug 04 18:34 |
schestowitz | trmanco: yes, been about 2 weeks since last project they killed... they average about 1 dead project/2.5 weeks, for the past year | Aug 04 18:36 |
schestowitz | Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010 http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2009/08/03/windows-live-events-retiring-in-2010.aspx | Aug 04 18:37 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @wikileaks London lawyers threaten "copyright infringement" over journal releasing legal threat letters http://bit.ly/bwvtQ | Aug 04 18:39 | |
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kevin009 | have you guys seen this? | Aug 04 18:50 |
kevin009 | http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/tech/Cal-State-Student-Faces-10-Year-Prison-Term-for-Playing-with-Video-Games-52386872.html | Aug 04 18:51 |
kevin009 | the evil super power is at it again... trying to dumb down the world by preventing us from turning a hammer into a screwdriver (or a game console into a general purpose computing device) | Aug 04 18:52 |
kevin009 | it makes me sick | Aug 04 18:52 |
*schestowitz looks | Aug 04 18:52 | |
schestowitz | Digital Millennium Copyright Act. | Aug 04 18:53 |
kevin009 | they try to spin it as though the only reason one would modify a console is to run illegal games | Aug 04 18:53 |
schestowitz | Have they spread this DMCA virus to all countries yet? | Aug 04 18:53 |
schestowitz | IIRC there are a few countries where Mickey Mouse didn't manage tom buy this law? | Aug 04 18:53 |
kevin009 | they're trying... i read something about canada | Aug 04 18:53 |
schestowitz | Microsoft helped | Aug 04 18:53 |
schestowitz | They lied to Canadian parliament | Aug 04 18:54 |
schestowitz | Let me find it | Aug 04 18:54 |
kevin009 | when I was going to school I read an article about turning a sega dreamcast into a router :) | Aug 04 18:54 |
kevin009 | using linux... it sounded cool | Aug 04 18:54 |
schestowitz | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2670/125/ | Aug 04 18:54 |
kevin009 | they will eventually attack people who modify their ipods to play ogg vorbis files | Aug 04 18:55 |
schestowitz | Yes | Aug 04 18:55 |
schestowitz | Or TiVo hackers | Aug 04 18:55 |
kevin009 | that is why this must not be tolerated... its just one more step in that direction | Aug 04 18:55 |
schestowitz | "We sell it to you, but you can't own it" | Aug 04 18:55 |
schestowitz | "here, have a cucumber.... but if you eat it with a fork we'll throw you in a sell" | Aug 04 18:56 |
schestowitz | *cell | Aug 04 18:57 |
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thenixedreport | Man. | Aug 04 18:58 |
thenixedreport | That is horrible. | Aug 04 18:58 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Acer Touch Books to Run Linux, Apparently http://ping.fm/AXPoB | Aug 04 19:00 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Google Chrome OS (Linux) Can Become a Success http://ping.fm/BMcoF | Aug 04 19:02 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] USB Utilities Are Built on Linux http://ping.fm/KnYqN http://ping.fm/XXtxm | Aug 04 19:07 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Phoronix Test Suite 2.0 is Released to Compare Distributions/Kernels/DEs http://ping.fm/f4YmA | Aug 04 19:31 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] FSlint: Utility/Applications for Keeping GNU/Linux Nice and Tidy http://ping.fm/qdeAf | Aug 04 19:33 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sugar Gets Wired Coverage http://ping.fm/Cp53n | Aug 04 19:40 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Glimpse at Mandriva Linux 2010.0 Alpha 2 http://ping.fm/arncL http://ping.fm/fz4GJ | Aug 04 19:43 | |
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schestowitz | There are more candidates than Apple who may inherit the "Evil" status of MSFT (and formerly IBM). Google seems a little scary..... | Aug 04 19:53 |
MinceR | not a little | Aug 04 19:54 |
thenixedreport | I agree. | Aug 04 19:54 |
thenixedreport | :) | Aug 04 19:54 |
thenixedreport | It isn't just Microsoft. | Aug 04 19:54 |
schestowitz | The FSF has been good at never iconifying any company. They distrust the,. | Aug 04 19:55 |
schestowitz | *them | Aug 04 19:55 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Enthusiastic Coverage of Free Software in the Press http://ping.fm/FGyH8 http://ping.fm/T1Rfu http://ping.fm/CAGl7 | Aug 04 19:58 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mozilla Firefox 3.5 Outpaces the Success of 3.0 http://ping.fm/Wl1R5 | Aug 04 20:00 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wikipedia Extends Reach for Free Content http://ping.fm/FQc8m | Aug 04 20:07 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mother of 3-D, OpenGL 3.2, is Released http://ping.fm/9Eq4p | Aug 04 20:13 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Abuse Against the Public with DMCA and DRM (Laws/Practices from Hell) http://ping.fm/B36mJ | Aug 04 20:18 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Man Shows Intellectual Monopolies Are Unnecessary to Artists http://ping.fm/YPe27 | Aug 04 20:20 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Internet Filters: Epic Fail http://ping.fm/7OYM2 | Aug 04 20:22 | |
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schestowitz | pin wallclimber | Aug 04 20:27 |
schestowitz | *ping | Aug 04 20:27 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Virtualisation Benefits GNU/Linux Growth http://ping.fm/svHpX | Aug 04 20:27 | |
wallclimber | Hi! | Aug 04 20:28 |
wallclimber | how is everyone today? | Aug 04 20:29 |
tacone | drinking coca col...errr.. pepsi O:-) | Aug 04 20:30 |
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wallclimber | I've been discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of MSOffice with a friend...it's been quite interesting | Aug 04 20:33 |
wallclimber | they wondered if they could still do their work using Open Office | Aug 04 20:33 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Opposition to Mono is Healthy http://ping.fm/0WQA3 | Aug 04 20:33 | |
schestowitz | wallclimber: I'm fine thinks | Aug 04 20:34 |
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schestowitz | Microsoft.. not so much: | Aug 04 20:34 |
schestowitz | Windows Live Events shutting down soon | Aug 04 20:34 |
schestowitz | Microsoft has decided to close down Windows Live Events and will be focusing its development efforts on building event planning and management tools for Windows Live Calendar instead. Beginning next month, users of Windows Live Events will be unable to create new events. And sometime next year, the site will simply redirect to Live Calendar instead. | Aug 04 20:34 |
schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-10302768-248.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 | Aug 04 20:34 |
schestowitz | Windows Live Events “retiring” in 2010 | Aug 04 20:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.liveside.net/main/archive/2009/08/03/windows-live-events-retiring-in-2010.aspx | Aug 04 20:34 |
schestowitz | Windows Live Events retiring in 2010 | Aug 04 20:34 |
schestowitz | http://windowslivewire.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!2F7EB29B42641D59!41244.entry | Aug 04 20:34 |
wallclimber | sheesh, how many things have they shut down over the last several months? | Aug 04 20:34 |
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wallclimber | most of the services they've shut down I'd never heard of anyway... | Aug 04 20:35 |
schestowitz | wallclimber: I find office suites not necessary | Aug 04 20:35 |
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schestowitz | Unless: someone sends a file in the wrong form | Aug 04 20:36 |
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wallclimber | I never use them at all | Aug 04 20:36 |
schestowitz | Or it's a spreadsheet | Aug 04 20:36 |
schestowitz | Then I use Koffice | Aug 04 20:36 |
schestowitz | KSpread | Aug 04 20:36 |
schestowitz | wallclimber: MSFT shut down about 20 in recent months | Aug 04 20:36 |
schestowitz | Averaging at about 1 per 2.5 weeks | Aug 04 20:36 |
schestowitz | Rough count though; depends what qualifies as closure. But it's lookin' grim. More layoffs will come before VIsta 7, I reckon. | Aug 04 20:37 |
wallclimber | yeah, i have abi word installed, but mostly, if someone sends an office file i can't open i just tell them to send it in plain text | Aug 04 20:37 |
schestowitz | Yeha, plain text | Aug 04 20:37 |
schestowitz | Just not HTML | Aug 04 20:37 |
schestowitz | WOrd can't do HTML | Aug 04 20:37 |
schestowitz | I like HTML for many reasons | Aug 04 20:37 |
schestowitz | But Latex is better and increasingly Wiki | Aug 04 20:37 |
wallclimber | well, if they send me formatted stuff, i just have to clean the formatting out anyway | Aug 04 20:37 |
schestowitz | I code HTML in Kate for everything in BN blog | Aug 04 20:37 |
wallclimber | i've heard that latex is great, but difficult to learn | Aug 04 20:38 |
schestowitz | BTW, from your mails I need to redo styling | Aug 04 20:38 |
schestowitz | The blod and underline and all won't work when pasting and the message source is messy | Aug 04 20:38 |
schestowitz | I think the least lossy way is Wiki | Aug 04 20:38 |
schestowitz | From Wiki I can select HTML source | Aug 04 20:38 |
schestowitz | Or use Wiki syntax | Aug 04 20:38 |
schestowitz | So in E-mail HTML will get 'flattened' onto the message | Aug 04 20:39 |
schestowitz | I have this issue when I when I wrote for a publication | Aug 04 20:39 |
schestowitz | Eventually I just uploded the HTML to a Web server and had the E-mail point to that file. Yeah.. the 'joys' of E-mail. | Aug 04 20:39 |
schestowitz | wallclimber: latex is easy | Aug 04 20:39 |
schestowitz | Use a front end | Aug 04 20:40 |
schestowitz | Like Kile or LyX | Aug 04 20:40 |
schestowitz | It's easier than OOo | Aug 04 20:40 |
wallclimber | anything's easier than OO | Aug 04 20:40 |
schestowitz | Depends on one's habits of writing (schools teach it wrong) | Aug 04 20:40 |
wallclimber | .o | Aug 04 20:40 |
wallclimber | I do layouts for print, so i've always used programs like pagemaker (back in the 90s) and InDesign, and more recently, Scribus | Aug 04 20:41 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's sidewalk memorial to Encarta, Money and other fossils http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/A_memorial_to_Encarta_Money_Bob_and_other_Microsoft_fossils49390432.html | Aug 04 20:41 |
schestowitz | Microsoft Encarta died - why? And will its contents be lost? http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/fsm_newsletter_12_april_2009_encarta_died | Aug 04 20:41 |
schestowitz | Microsoft Slaps PC Gamers, Decides to Close Ensemble Studios http://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-ensemble-halo-age-empires,6343.html | Aug 04 20:42 |
schestowitz | When DRM detonates your music collection http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article3898784.ece | Aug 04 20:42 |
schestowitz | And so on.. | Aug 04 20:42 |
wallclimber | I saw the memorial sidewalk (courtyard?) | Aug 04 20:42 |
schestowitz | Trophy yard for Bill and Steve | Aug 04 20:42 |
wallclimber | Dead trophies | Aug 04 20:43 |
wallclimber | like stuffed heads on the wall | Aug 04 20:43 |
schestowitz | I need to prepare new Comes matrial | Aug 04 20:43 |
schestowitz | There's none on the queue except the Wiki | Aug 04 20:43 |
schestowitz | But I have some coming, just requires time (probably tomorrow) | Aug 04 20:43 |
schestowitz | I spent too much time today at the Post Office (German passports need mail to be registered) | Aug 04 20:44 |
wallclimber | well, let me know...i'll look into latex...i found the wiki stuff a little daunting | Aug 04 20:44 |
schestowitz | wallclimber: no, it's like ol' BIll and Syteve | Aug 04 20:44 |
schestowitz | They'll go there when they are broke and out oft he limo (unlikely) | Aug 04 20:44 |
schestowitz | Then sob over Bob and Vista | Aug 04 20:44 |
schestowitz | wallclimber: sudo apt-get install lyx | Aug 04 20:45 |
wallclimber | i'm doing it right now | Aug 04 20:45 |
schestowitz | It ought to grab all the deps, inc latex and ghostscript (not a dep) | Aug 04 20:45 |
schestowitz | I used it to write my thesis and other papers | Aug 04 20:45 |
schestowitz | Not bad for a little "Linux app:" | Aug 04 20:46 |
schestowitz | Also, it's the previous project from the guy who made KDE | Aug 04 20:46 |
schestowitz | KDE 4.3 out today | Aug 04 20:46 |
wallclimber | it's installing... | Aug 04 20:47 |
schestowitz | Knuth made it | Aug 04 20:48 |
schestowitz | Mister Lgo | Aug 04 20:48 |
schestowitz | *Algo | Aug 04 20:49 |
*schestowitz listens to http://twit.tv/floss69 (my nee favourite show) | Aug 04 20:50 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Did Jesus reveal the name of the "antichrist"? http://notnews.today.com/?p=582 | Aug 04 20:54 | |
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schestowitz | tessier: put Android or something on OpenMoko (they say it works with a newer kernel): http://twit.tv/floss69 | Aug 04 21:32 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Maintains Pace of 1 Dead Product Every 2 Weeks: Latest Casualty is Windows Live Events http://ping.fm/3bdRJ | Aug 04 22:04 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft .NET Tries to Piggyback OLPC, Novell Helps the Same Cause http://ping.fm/Eo3c2 | Aug 04 23:09 | |
trmanco | http://a17.video2.blip.tv/1810001708907/Jospoortvliet-KDE43DesktopWorkspaceDemo820.ogv | Aug 04 23:19 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] RT @mashable IE6 No More! Popular Web Companies Start Project to Kill IE6 http://bit.ly/gZ6cz | Aug 04 23:45 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[d235j] RT @somecanuckchick IE6 must die. (IE6 No More: http://www.ie6nomore.com/ ) #IE6nomore #IE6mustdie #killIE6 | Aug 04 23:49 | |
schestowitz | trmanco: nice. | Aug 04 23:50 |
schestowitz | I'll make that a <video> | Aug 04 23:50 |
trmanco | :) | Aug 04 23:50 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "You know you have made it when………pt2" a reply to Openbytes http://tinyurl.com/pqxv8j #microsoft #linux #windows #vista #xp #7 | Aug 04 23:54 | |
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