| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: yes, I mentioned that too | Aug 26 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | <schestowitz> And they didn't change the hand | Aug 26 00:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | ahh | Aug 26 00:01 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Really enjoyed @victoriacoren and @charltonbrooker on YHBW http://bit.ly/aCN62 | Aug 26 00:30 | |
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| webclientbcn | here is an amusing one for those of you into microsoft advertising - http://www.microsoft.com/businessproductivity/default.mspx vs http://www.microsoft.com/poland/businessproductivity/default.mspx | Aug 26 00:35 |
| trmanco | _Hicham_, I actually have the opposite experience | Aug 26 00:38 |
| trmanco | swift has never crashed on me | Aug 26 00:39 |
| trmanco | and I've been using it for a week | Aug 26 00:39 |
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| schestowitz | webclientbcn: thanks, seen it earlier | Aug 26 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Did Microsoft make a response? | Aug 26 00:41 |
| wallclimber | Roy, you once gave me a link to a story about some Microsoft execs that were caught hunting without a license...or using someone else's license | Aug 26 00:43 |
| wallclimber | do you remember that? | Aug 26 00:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] http://ping.fm/Ovlnr Vista 7 Campaign Starts Tomorrow | Aug 26 00:43 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] GNOME in .NET? – Not on my desktop! http://tinyurl.com/nuvlek #gnome #linux #mono #microsoft | Aug 26 00:46 | |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: oh yeah.. | Aug 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | Kempin campin' | Aug 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&c2coff=1&q=kempin+antelope&aq=f&oq=&aqi= | Aug 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/Commentary-Good-riddance-to-Microsofts-problem-child/2009-1001_3-250044.html | Aug 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | "Kempin has been a problem child for Microsoft for years. This is a guy who lost his hunting license earlier this year for allegedly using his SUV as a weapon (as in ramming antelopes with his car instead of shooting them)." | Aug 26 00:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | wtf | Aug 26 00:53 |
| wallclimber | Thanks!! | Aug 26 00:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | they'd hire someone else like that? | Aug 26 00:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | something sounds fishy | Aug 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | "Like Microsoft's other golden boys, Kempin is neither officially resigning nor being let go. Instead, he will be put out to pasture and oversee as-yet-undetermined "special projects" for CEO Steve Ballmer." | Aug 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | What's he up to today? | Aug 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Where is Kempin today? | Aug 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | help me find out, please. | Aug 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | I haven't seen anything about him in ages | Aug 26 00:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Joachim+Kempin&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Aug 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Fishy | Aug 26 00:56 |
| schestowitz | It's like he vanished | Aug 26 00:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: well | Aug 26 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | if hes working on black projects | Aug 26 00:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | he would dissapear | Aug 26 00:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nbr.org/About/bod.aspx?id=ac9fc08a-206a-4e57-9153-e36569568254 | Aug 26 00:57 |
| schestowitz | "Joachim Kempin joined NBR's Board of Directors in 1999 and, because of his extraordinary service to the institution, was elected as the first Honorary Director in June 2002." | Aug 26 00:57 |
| schestowitz | He came from DEC | Aug 26 00:58 |
| schestowitz | "Mr. Kempin holds a master's degree in mathematics from the University of Hanover in Germany." | Aug 26 00:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: wow, this kempin dude sounds like a real dick | Aug 26 00:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | "Microsoft executive Joachim Kempin described his plan of retaliation and coercion to shut down competition from Linux: "I am thinking of hitting the OEM harder than in the past with anti-Linux actions" and will "further try to restrict source code deliveries where possible and be less gracious when interpreting agreements -- again without being obvious about it," continuing "this will be a delicate dance"" | Aug 26 01:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://edge-op.org/iowa/iowaconsumercase.org/assets/attachments/Petition.pdf | Aug 26 01:00 |
| schestowitz | Joachim on "LUNIX": http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/exhibits/61.pdf | Aug 26 01:04 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: we should do this PDF too, I think | Aug 26 01:04 |
| wallclimber | reading now... | Aug 26 01:05 |
| wallclimber | No problem...it looks like an easy one... | Aug 26 01:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.facebook.com/people/Joachim-Kempin/724498728 | Aug 26 01:06 |
| wallclimber | I just did a google news search for Joachim Kempin and found a german article about the 3rd Usability Conference in Frankfurt. | Aug 26 01:07 |
| schestowitz | Joachin has one friend | Aug 26 01:07 |
| schestowitz | *chim | Aug 26 01:07 |
| schestowitz | etin Uygun | Aug 26 01:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cetin+Uygun&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Aug 26 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Seems Turkish | Aug 26 01:08 |
| wallclimber | I used google to translate the page, but found no mention of Kempin - it's dated aug 19 09. | Aug 26 01:08 |
| wallclimber | here's the link: http://www.onetoone.de/Usability-in-voller-Bandbreite-16446.html | Aug 26 01:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketvisual.com/de/85057033-76dd-46fe-8376-1f191ca196c1/Joachim+Kempin | Aug 26 01:09 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: maybe it's linked to under his name (anchor text) | Aug 26 01:09 |
| wallclimber | I have a few quiet minutes before dinnertime, so I'm going to do that Kempin PDF real quick. will email it when it's done | Aug 26 01:11 |
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| schestowitz | The reason(s) for such a quick reversal remain the subject of debate. Court documents accused Microsoft of coercing OEMs to drop Linux: | Aug 26 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft executive Joachim Kempin described his plan of retaliation and coercion to shut down competition from Linux: "I am thinking of hitting the OEM harder than in the past with anti-Linux actions" and will "further try to restrict source code deliveries where possible and be less gracious when interpreting agreements — again without being obvious about it," continuing "this will be a delicate dance"[23] | Aug 26 01:13 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell#cite_note-22 | Aug 26 01:13 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : are you fasting with us ? | Aug 26 01:17 |
| schestowitz | tessier: something's up with the server, I think | Aug 26 01:17 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: no | Aug 26 01:17 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: never mind, other IPs can get to it. It's a connectivity issue from my end (also other port #s) | Aug 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: http://searchengineland.com/yahoo-acquires-arab-portal-bing-gets-backdoor-into-deal-24517 | Aug 26 01:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: wtf? | Aug 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | The Arab world is being bonged | Aug 26 01:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | [08:21:37] <schestowitz> Microsoft executive Joachim Kempin described his plan of retaliation and coercion to shut down competition from Linux: "I am thinking of hitting the OEM harder than in the past with anti-Linux actions" and will "further try to restrict source code deliveries where possible and be less gracious when interpreting agreements — again without being obvious about it," continuing "this will be a delicate dance"[23] | Aug 26 01:18 |
| schestowitz | By Microsoft Bong | Aug 26 01:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just said that | Aug 26 01:18 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : maktoob is not really that big | Aug 26 01:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft bong? | Aug 26 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Neither is Yahoo | Aug 26 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Aug 26 01:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | weed is legal now!? | Aug 26 01:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | FUCK YEAH! | Aug 26 01:19 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 26 01:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | aww :< | Aug 26 01:19 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : biggest forums on arab world i think is startimes | Aug 26 01:19 |
| schestowitz | They could substitute its status with that of tobacco | Aug 26 01:19 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: nnnnnnnnnno! Don't give Yahoosoft ideas. | Aug 26 01:20 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : people are not that aware of things being free or not | Aug 26 01:21 |
| _Hicham_ | all people use Internet Explorer | Aug 26 01:21 |
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| all of what kind of people use IE? | Aug 26 01:25 | |
| sheep? | Aug 26 01:25 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Wants Only White People in Poland http://ping.fm/DNVuc | Aug 26 01:35 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: return to digital barbarism | Aug 26 01:36 |
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| tessier | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/18264/mspoland.jpg | Aug 26 01:43 |
| tessier | hah | Aug 26 01:43 |
| tessier | Just saw it! | Aug 26 01:43 |
| I can do better cut and paste than that. | Aug 26 01:46 | |
| I wonder if it sucks because they use macs or because M$ decided to eat their own dog food for marketing. | Aug 26 01:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 | a company should always eat their own dog food | Aug 26 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | its most obvious microsoft never does | Aug 26 01:48 |
| I like how they cut the Apple logo off that white laptop. | Aug 26 01:49 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: also in BN | Aug 26 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | twitter: worse yet | Aug 26 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just stock imagery | Aug 26 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter | Aug 26 01:50 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Poland modified it | Aug 26 01:50 |
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| wallclimber | Roy, 61.PDF as text has been sent to you. :o) | Aug 26 02:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] VMware Turns Sour After Microsoft Intervention http://ping.fm/DVxnL | Aug 26 02:05 | |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: thanks! | Aug 26 02:10 |
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| wallclimber | You're welcome! I'm going to toddle off to find food now. | Aug 26 02:11 |
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| schestowitz | KDE struggles with feature requests < http://lwn.net/Articles/346247/ > | Aug 26 02:14 |
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| moneypenny | firefox | Aug 26 02:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6827/1/ | Aug 26 02:20 |
| schestowitz | moneypenny: what about it? | Aug 26 02:20 |
| moneypenny | i dunno...it asked me for ctcp version | Aug 26 02:21 |
| moneypenny | It's flatfish here Roy | Aug 26 02:22 |
| moneypenny | I apologize for screwing with your post about the group helping the kids with computers. | Aug 26 02:23 |
| moneypenny | They are a noble group | Aug 26 02:23 |
| >ChanServ<op #boycottnovell schestowitz | Aug 26 02:24 | |
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| moneypenny | Just wanted you to know that...bye...flatfish | Aug 26 02:28 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] "I searched 31415929 digits of pi, and found POPEY twice.The first occurrence was at position 16459130." http://bit.ly/HJg8U :) | Aug 26 02:30 | |
| schestowitz | Microsofters Tim Anderson and Gavin Clarke are advertising Vista 7 in The Register this evening | Aug 26 02:32 |
| schestowitz | What happened to The Reg? | Aug 26 02:32 |
| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@c-69-245-224-210.hsd1.in.comcast.net | Aug 26 02:33 | |
| schestowitz | Pi is interesting. In another type of universe it could be a different value; same goes for speed of light. | Aug 26 02:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Fewer Foreigners Coming To US Grad Schools: This Is A Problem < http://ping.fm/eyoJ0 > | Aug 26 02:37 | |
| schestowitz | Two Stories from the Management Trap http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2009/08/19/what-if-the-owners-are-the-problem/ | Aug 26 02:40 |
| schestowitz | Recording Industry Helps Rapper/Single Mom Get A PhD, Though It Tried To Weasel Out http://techdirt.com/articles/20090823/1655525968.shtml | Aug 26 02:42 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/8816744 "join !womeninfreesoftware -- it's not just for women in fs, but also for those who would like to see more women in fs. !librefm !gnu !fsf" | Aug 26 02:53 |
| schestowitz | "Bollywood superstar Shah Rukh Khan's fans hold his posters, shout anti-American slogans and burn the American flag during a protest in Allahabad, India, Sunday, Aug. 16, 2009. India reacted with outrage Sunday after Khan said he was detained for questioning at a U.S. airport, though immigration officials denied he was formally held." | Aug 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32435701 | Aug 26 02:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] http://ping.fm/7hnLM "Health care reform is now a private option: WHICH FOR PROFIT INSURANCE COMPANY DO YOU WANT?" | Aug 26 02:56 | |
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| What's a good way to make fun of Sony's G3 E Reader? | Aug 26 04:16 | |
| E-Robber? | Aug 26 04:16 | |
| Swindle Rival? | Aug 26 04:17 | |
| LOL, Randall Kenedy hypes Vista 7 http://www.pcworld.com/article/170783/snow_leopard_is_a_pale_imitation_of_windows_7.html | Aug 26 04:21 | |
| Randal needs to read more M$ emails about how great Mac is compared to Vista before he spouts off about Vista 7 like that. | Aug 26 04:24 | |
| US networks are a bad joke. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/26/us_15_years_behind_south_korea/ | Aug 26 04:34 | |
| you can thank ATT, M$ and others for this | Aug 26 04:35 | |
| http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1337053&cid=29073927 | Aug 26 04:35 | |
| LOL -> Former governor Sarah Palin's Alaska has the slowest connection speeds of 2.3Mbps, trailing Idaho, Arkansas, South Carolina and Mississippi in the race to the bottom. | Aug 26 04:36 | |
| Louisiana is not at the bottom. Now state legislators can say, "Thank God for Mississippi, Arkansas, Idaho, South Carolina and Alaska!" | Aug 26 04:37 | |
| Mississippi and Arkansas usually get all of the credit. | Aug 26 04:38 | |
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| Another shameless Vista 7 hype article assaulting Apple. http://www.pcworld.com/article/170789/why_macs_cant_beat_pcs_with_windows_7.html | Aug 26 04:53 | |
| this one claims to use both OS, but no one else I know that uses both Winblows and Mac says anything like this. | Aug 26 04:54 | |
| -> my Windows 7 systems don't crash... ever. Those days of frequent Windows Explorer crashes went away when I installed the Windows 7 RC. My Mac now crashes more often | Aug 26 04:55 | |
| vista 7 hype log is updated. http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/216759 | Aug 26 05:03 | |
| it's like M$ issued the talking points and all the tools are spouting them at once. | Aug 26 05:10 | |
| another one, http://vista.blorge.com/2009/08/26/apples-answer-to-windows-7-new-get-a-mac-ads/ | Aug 26 05:14 | |
| free software is the indirect target of this assault. The message is, "Apple is much bigger than GNU/Linux and Apple is going to be crushed. What chance does free software have against the mighty M$?" | Aug 26 05:15 | |
| the answer, of course, is that both Apple and M$ are in retreat. | Aug 26 05:16 | |
| PC world article pegs M$ Netbook elimination strategy. -> Sadly, many buyers will shell out $400 or so for a reasonably-powered netbook with a 10-inch display, only to learn they’ve been saddled with a feeble version of Windows 7. A classic bait-and-switch? It sure looks that way. It’s also a recipe for consumer ire. Nobody wants to pay a fairly significant sum for a consumer electronics device, only to learn they must pay an | Aug 26 05:19 | |
| http://www.pcworld.com/article/170701/windows_7_starter_edition_is_too_wimpy_for_new_netbooks.html | Aug 26 05:19 | |
| A $500 "netbook" to run Winblows 7 is not a netbook, it's an undersized and overpriced laptop that's been crippled by bad software. | Aug 26 05:20 | |
| Windows 7 battery life is, of course, the worst Windows ever http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/windows-7-yield-worse-battery-life-xp/2009-08-25 | Aug 26 05:23 | |
| http://slashdot.org/submission/1061549/For-Battery-Life-is-Windows-7-the-Worst-OS-Yet | Aug 26 05:41 | |
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| schestowitz | Teen kidnapped over Sony PSP < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/26/teen_kidnapped_over_sony_psp/ > | Aug 26 09:00 |
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| schestowitz | Erroneous reports... http://uk.techcrunch.com/2009/08/11/nokia-ditching-symbian-for-maemo-german-ft-reports/ | Aug 26 09:07 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Fedora 10/KDE 4 is currently being updated to KDE 4.3.0. | Aug 26 09:07 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Larry Augustin is SugarCRM CEO now? When did *that* happen? | Aug 26 09:07 | |
| schestowitz | Nokia: We’re Fully Commited to Symbian http://gigaom.com/2009/08/11/nokia-fully-commited-to-symbian/ | Aug 26 09:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst let us all know how kde 4.3 is coming along. I only tried 4.1 and liked it. | Aug 26 09:09 | |
| schestowitz | This is probably right: http://blogs.nuxeo.com/ebarroca/2009/08/commercial-open-source-or-just-a-free-demo.html | Aug 26 09:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/08/25/451-caos-links-20090825/ "Groklaw reported that a Federal Court had confirmed the district court’s judgment that SCO Group owed royalties to Novell but ruled that the district court’s summary judgment over ownership of Unix copyrights was inappropriate. That is a matter for a jury, but as Novell noted it is not exactly clear what will happen next, given SCO’s bankruptcy." | Aug 26 09:12 |
| Nirrad1st | Hello , I have a question about the Acer PQSERVICE restore partition. I know the type is 12 I hope 12h works the same . As that is the closest option I have. But is it FAT16, FAT32, or NTSC? Thank you | Aug 26 09:13 |
| Nirrad1st | I dont know if this relates to your channel but i was directed here by a web search | Aug 26 09:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz: I will, it's still updating. I will restart X after the update. Tried it already on Kubuntu 9.10 Alpha 4 (posted in COLA). | Aug 26 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | Nirrad1st: hey | Aug 26 09:20 |
| Nirrad1st | Hello | Aug 26 09:20 |
| schestowitz | Maybe someone here knows. | Aug 26 09:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't know personally. | Aug 26 09:20 |
| schestowitz | More of these unfounded rumours: http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/next-for-oracle-red-hat/ | Aug 26 09:21 |
| Nirrad1st | thank you anyways. Yeah I will just keep waiting just incase. | Aug 26 09:21 |
| schestowitz | No problem :-) | Aug 26 09:22 |
| schestowitz | Hope you get the answer | Aug 26 09:22 |
| Nirrad1st | Are you using an NVIDIA video card ? | Aug 26 09:22 |
| Nirrad1st | Thanks | Aug 26 09:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 1,000 cameras 'solve one crime' < http://ping.fm/g6rIZ > Schneier might have to say something good to say about this... | Aug 26 09:23 | |
| Nirrad1st | Just thought that you were having graphics card problems. I had trouble installing mine in the new 9.10 Ubuntu Alpha 4. | Aug 26 09:24 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I use nvidia | Aug 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz | The driver came with Mandriva already in it | Aug 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Worked great, but binary-only driver, which I can accept for now. | Aug 26 09:28 |
| Nirrad1st | IS that with Kubuntu? | Aug 26 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Also with Kubuntu | Aug 26 09:29 |
| schestowitz | On my other partition. | Aug 26 09:29 |
| schestowitz | I'm on the Mandriva partition right now | Aug 26 09:29 |
| Nirrad1st | ah have tried that one also. had sound issues i could not resolve | Aug 26 09:29 |
| schestowitz | Which card? | Aug 26 09:30 |
| schestowitz | :"Install or Upgrade to XBMC 9.04.1 in Ubuntu" < http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/239/install-or-upgrade-to-xbmc-9-04-1-in-ubuntu > | Aug 26 09:30 |
| Nirrad1st | 9500 MGS | Aug 26 09:30 |
| Nirrad1st | 512 dedicated with 2300 integrated ram | Aug 26 09:31 |
| Nirrad1st | I am using Ubuntu 9.04 jaunty as my primary . | Aug 26 09:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&c2coff=1&ei=NvWUSt65OcOrjAeq5cT-DQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=9500M+GS+phoronix&spell=1 | Aug 26 09:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_1731405&num=1 | Aug 26 09:33 |
| schestowitz | "The NVIDIA 173.14.05 driver brings support for the GeForce 8400, 8400GS, 9500M GS, 9600GS, 9600GSO, 9600GT, 9800GTX, and 9800GX2. " | Aug 26 09:33 |
| schestowitz | Does that not work? | Aug 26 09:34 |
| schestowitz | I've heard that Vista and VIsta 7 give GPU issues too... inability to detect or install | Aug 26 09:34 |
| schestowitz | The article above is from 2008, so support should be mature | Aug 26 09:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] KDE 4.3.0. has great improvements. Will write a article about it (W/screenshots). Lancelot (menu) now uses the colours of the selected theme | Aug 26 09:40 | |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.dailynews.com/click/2009/08/aeriebsd-a-fork-of-openbsd-not.html | Aug 26 09:42 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz: I will, it's still updating. I will restart X after the update. Tried it already on Kubuntu 9.10 Alpha 4 (posted in COLA)." http://twitter.com/ml2mst/statuses/3552858829 | Aug 26 09:43 |
| Nirrad1st | ok, i will give Kubuntu a try next. | Aug 26 09:44 |
| Nirrad1st | In the new 9.10 A4 , the driver that comes with linux would not hold after rebbot. so i reverted back to 9.04 | Aug 26 09:45 |
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| schestowitz | 9.10 is alpha, still | Aug 26 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Just good for dabbling really | Aug 26 09:46 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] The new default theme (Air) is half transparent. Ye Gods, will the Microsoft Faithful bitch about it :-p | Aug 26 09:47 | |
| schestowitz | I think that Mandriva 2009.1 has newer stuff than Ubuntu 9.04 | Aug 26 09:47 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst kde, x, and linux have always been ahead of Windows in terms of translucency. Alpha channeling was rich when I used Red Hat in 2000. | Aug 26 09:49 | |
| Nirrad1st | I dont know about any of the other things. But I just spent the better part of three months trying out about 35 different versions of Linux. And Ubuntu was the easiest with the best support out of the box . But I will look at Mandriva again. | Aug 26 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Phoronix is a good source for information on graphics cards and Linux | Aug 26 09:54 |
| Nirrad1st | ok thanks | Aug 26 09:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8524 | Aug 26 09:59 |
| schestowitz | 'Green goo' biofuel gets a boost < http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/08/21/eco.algaebiofuel/index.html > | Aug 26 10:02 |
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| schestowitz | Malware Writers: Will That Be OS X, or W? < http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/08/malware_writers_will_that_be_o.html > | Aug 26 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Asay doesn't know about centos... | Aug 26 10:12 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat and Acquia thrive on complexity http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090824/0452165974.shtml | Aug 26 10:12 |
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| Nirrad1st | does anyone know what the format is of the acer recovery partition? | Aug 26 10:20 |
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| schestowitz | game changer http://ostatic.com/blog/an-android-based-voip-phone | Aug 26 11:21 |
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| ziggyfish | mm interesting http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9137107/Microsoft_wins_fast_track_appeal_of_Word_ban?source=rss_news | Aug 26 12:03 |
| ziggyfish | Microsoft wins fast-track appeal of Word ban | Aug 26 12:03 |
| ziggyfish | Microsoft must make its case to the three judges by the end of business today. | Aug 26 12:03 |
| ziggyfish | According to the Court of Appeals calendar for the case, Microsoft must file a brief today outlining its arguments for the stay. A response brief from i4i is due two weeks later, on Sept. 8, while Microsoft's reply to that must reach the court by noon on Sept. 14. An oral hearing is slated for Sept. 23, less than three weeks before the injunction is to take effect. The Court of Appeals would render its verdict on Microsoft's | Aug 26 12:04 |
| oiaohm | I hope MS losses. | Aug 26 12:04 |
| oiaohm | So making OOXML dead in water. | Aug 26 12:04 |
| oiaohm | Note if MS removes OOXML from word they could ship without issue. | Aug 26 12:05 |
| oiaohm | ODF is not effected. | Aug 26 12:05 |
| oiaohm | Someone was smart and patented the idea of unknown binaries inside xml. | Aug 26 12:05 |
| ziggyfish | it's very unlikely that would happen | Aug 26 12:05 |
| oiaohm | MS breached a patent they knew about. | Aug 26 12:06 |
| oiaohm | So what can happen is a far greater than if the patent was unknown. | Aug 26 12:06 |
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| oiaohm | The argument MS is trying to make is that i4i is making more profit because of MS using there IP illegaly than if they did not use it. | Aug 26 12:07 |
| schestowitz | It's worse | Aug 26 12:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft got closer to the company to take its idea | Aug 26 12:08 |
| oiaohm | What is a pure bull crap defence. | Aug 26 12:08 |
| schestowitz | So it's not a trivial case of infringement | Aug 26 12:08 |
| schestowitz | ziggyfish: I'll post some news roundup | Aug 26 12:08 |
| oiaohm | That MS has bound OOXML into there office suit in a way that it cannot be removed is really MS own problem. | Aug 26 12:09 |
| ziggyfish | it's just that microsoft has a relationship with the DOJ that may help them in this case. | Aug 26 12:09 |
| oiaohm | Thing that MS fears is if i4i can get a block on word. Next can be excel and power point. | Aug 26 12:09 |
| ziggyfish | schestowitz: will read it tommorrow morning | Aug 26 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft quietly removes Ultimate Extras from Windows 7 < http://www.itwire.com/content/view/27222/53/ > | Aug 26 12:10 |
| oiaohm | So effectively leaving MS without a Office suit at all. | Aug 26 12:10 |
| schestowitz | WIndows [sic] 7 is going down early | Aug 26 12:10 |
| ziggyfish | it will be interesting what people will do after window 7 fails. A lot of people are just waiting for windows 7 before they upgrade. | Aug 26 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: Prove you're human by reading and regurgitating an ad < http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Microsofts_latest_idea_Prove_youre_human_by_reading_an_ad_54859922.html > | Aug 26 12:12 |
| schestowitz | ziggyfish: don't worry | Aug 26 12:12 |
| schestowitz | MS talks aboutVista 8 alrady | Aug 26 12:12 |
| schestowitz | "It's be better next time. We promise" | Aug 26 12:12 |
| schestowitz | *it'll | Aug 26 12:12 |
| ziggyfish | schestowitz: only for Vista 7+8 to be a flop like Vista 7 | Aug 26 12:13 |
| oiaohm | Windows 7 is really funny. | Aug 26 12:13 |
| oiaohm | It repeats the same mistakes of Vista | Aug 26 12:13 |
| oiaohm | Hardware will grow logic. | Aug 26 12:13 |
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| ziggyfish | anyway I think it's time to go to sleep (it's 9:30 here). | Aug 26 12:18 |
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| schestowitz | l8r | Aug 26 12:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Requires Less Support Than Windows http://ping.fm/k9QIl | Aug 26 12:23 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] NEC Set-top Boxes Run Linux http://ping.fm/PHBsL | Aug 26 12:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Requires No Reinstalls - Opinion http://ping.fm/bqxPP | Aug 26 12:26 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Saves Waste (CD|DVD Coasters) http://ping.fm/uZSE7 | Aug 26 12:29 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Power7 Servers to Run GNU/Linux, Not Windows http://ping.fm/ZZ01w | Aug 26 12:30 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNOME Establishes Press Team http://ping.fm/RJBpX | Aug 26 12:36 | |
| oiaohm | Gnome might regret what they did. | Aug 26 12:41 |
| oiaohm | Kde equal to there press team is what over adveritised kde 4 causing back lash. | Aug 26 12:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] http://ping.fm/EGuop Maybe the ReactOS people realised that mimicking a broken OS is now the way to go? | Aug 26 12:42 | |
| oiaohm | Cannot beat them clone them. | Aug 26 12:43 |
| oiaohm | Old open source moto. | Aug 26 12:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] SimplyMEPIS 8.0.10 Released http://ping.fm/tKlIQ | Aug 26 12:44 | |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Aug 26 12:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I'm on Sky News tonight between 7-7:30pm some time re: #Wikipedia flagged revisions ... black shirt, no tie ;-) | Aug 26 12:45 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] at this precise moment i'm front page on the bbc newsnight site! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight #wikipedia | Aug 26 12:46 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard put it on YouTube for those of us who shunned TV, pls | Aug 26 12:46 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] PalmOS Applications Ported to Linux http://ping.fm/0tmPK | Aug 26 12:47 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz trouble is getting hold of a copy myself! i am trying to :-) will put on youtube when i can. newsnight site has last night's | Aug 26 12:48 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard great one on the Beeb. Good appearance and explanation. | Aug 26 12:50 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ubuntu Adds JPEG 2000 Support http://ping.fm/oOgqQ | Aug 26 12:53 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Debian Family Grows http://ping.fm/kI080 | Aug 26 12:53 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] David Gerard in the BBC's (news) front page talking about Wikipedia http://ping.fm/bFdhl | Aug 26 12:54 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Still Strong in Sub-notebooks as Sales Quadruple http://ping.fm/whF4I http://ping.fm/w5uWI | Aug 26 12:58 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Second Android Developer Challenge is Launched (Submissions) http://ping.fm/P0W3L | Aug 26 12:59 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Example of Free Software Participation as Advantage http://ping.fm/WGHbs | Aug 26 13:07 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Sorry for the delay, I will start my KDE 4.3.0. (A quick look at) within a couple of minutes. Found more interesting improvements. | Aug 26 13:09 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Zealand Open Source Society Launches New Initiative http://ping.fm/D8mtQ | Aug 26 13:11 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Red Hat Representative to Distribute Zimbra and Replace Exchange http://ping.fm/7kMXK | Aug 26 13:13 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Cloudera Rescues Hadoop from MicroYahoo? http://ping.fm/73iyf | Aug 26 13:17 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Drupal Makes Business http://ping.fm/eTE8k http://ping.fm/0hZXZ | Aug 26 13:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] MAFIAA Smears Competition, Files More Lawsuits http://ping.fm/oidl1 http://ping.fm/KerZJ | Aug 26 13:22 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Tries to Patent Forced Ads http://ping.fm/4kNjn | Aug 26 13:22 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNOME Lovers Resist Mono 'Trojan' from Novell http://ping.fm/XHnZ3 | Aug 26 13:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] SCO No Longer in Control of Itself http://ping.fm/p0mLU | Aug 26 13:28 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Time for ISPs to Disconnect Some Windows Users (3-Strike Law) http://ping.fm/QJ1wB http://ping.fm/mMzSB | Aug 26 13:30 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft's Silent Attack on SVG Leads to Response from Google http://ping.fm/wsvIs Even TimBL complained about IE due to SVG | Aug 26 13:34 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Pondering which bit of Ubuntu to screencast next.. suggestions welcome | Aug 26 14:02 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHHEFKBUPls&feature=channel_page | Aug 26 14:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Congrats to @colinmccarthy for being the first to spot the deliberate mistake at http://bit.ly/15ggXU :) | Aug 26 14:29 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple_claims_new_iphone_only | Aug 26 14:43 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/08/26/ultimate-extras-dead/ | Aug 26 14:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: what's the obsession with the hand? | Aug 26 14:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 26 14:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm lovin' Vista 7 | Aug 26 14:50 |
| schestowitz | It's gonna blow | Aug 26 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Give 6 months for the PR budgets and AstroTurfing capacity to run out | Aug 26 14:51 |
| I've been calling for ISP zombie cuts for years. | Aug 26 15:02 | |
| LSU has started "securing" their Windows machines. They do this by port scanning and software management. It wastes a lot of bandwith and I don't think it gets rid of the problem machines. | Aug 26 15:04 | |
| What it does do, the way they implemented it, is set up a way to drop gnu/linux machines from the network. | Aug 26 15:05 | |
| gnu/linux will serve web pages, for example, but won't respond correctly to "do you have last month's Winblows patch" queries | Aug 26 15:06 | |
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| I thought M$ killed their Ultimate Extras about a year ago. | Aug 26 15:14 | |
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| Yes, they dumped Ultimate Extras in September of 2008 http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=3435949 | Aug 26 15:17 | |
| I think Vista has already done the damage -> ziggyfish: it will be interesting what people will do after window 7 fails. A lot of people are just waiting for windows 7 before they upgrade. | Aug 26 15:39 | |
| M$ "true believers" have a choice of Vista, Vista 7 or nine year old XP. | Aug 26 15:41 | |
| The emperor is naked and everyone already knows it. | Aug 26 15:41 | |
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| cubezzz | LSU? | Aug 26 15:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Antitrust Barriers to Microsoft’s Anti-Google http://bit.ly/Giaqy | Aug 26 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: yes, ISPs lose clients though when they disconnect them | Aug 26 15:57 |
| schestowitz | There should be legislation of some form | Aug 26 15:57 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: Louisiana State | Aug 26 15:57 |
| *cubezzz nods | Aug 26 15:59 | |
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| cubezzz | sometimes I wonder if the colleges and universities use Linux much | Aug 26 16:00 |
| cubezzz | I know Waterloo uses Linux a fair bit | Aug 26 16:00 |
| neighborlee | it would depend on the neeed I imagine.server wize maybe its higher-- | Aug 26 16:01 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] flagged revisions media: i'm on bbc radio 2 chris evans 5:30pm ish; sky news 7:15pm ish. (Black shirt, no tie ;-) ) #wikipedia | Aug 26 16:13 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] oh wow. "how clean is your house" is on telly. it is UTTER UTTER UTTER @nyecamden pr0n. | Aug 26 16:15 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: Seneca | Aug 26 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Wow. | Aug 26 16:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/27192/1090/ | Aug 26 16:19 |
| _Hicham_ | viva schestowitz | Aug 26 16:19 |
| schestowitz | No response from Mono proponents | Aug 26 16:20 |
| schestowitz | It must be sad to be them. | Aug 26 16:20 |
| schestowitz | vive _Hicham_ | Aug 26 16:20 |
| _Hicham_ | they have nothing to say | Aug 26 16:21 |
| _Hicham_ | maybe they started feeling ashame | Aug 26 16:22 |
| _Hicham_ | of supporting a microsoft technology | Aug 26 16:22 |
| MinceR | having nothing to say didn't stop them before | Aug 26 16:22 |
| _Hicham_ | there is actually some comments | Aug 26 16:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Both Developers and Users Are Not Interested in Mono < http://bit.ly/15vOED > | Aug 26 16:24 | |
| _Hicham_ | I am interested in Mono | Aug 26 16:24 |
| _Hicham_ | Mono is the future | Aug 26 16:32 |
| _Hicham_ | though, it have been rejected in Fedora 12 | Aug 26 16:33 |
| _Hicham_ | Ubuntu is still sticking with it | Aug 26 16:33 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : what do u use, tomboy or gnote ? | Aug 26 16:36 |
| *MinceR uses gvim | Aug 26 16:38 | |
| MinceR | (and the DotOutlineTree plugin) | Aug 26 16:39 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : why gvim ? | Aug 26 16:45 |
| _Hicham_ | vim is widely sufficient | Aug 26 16:45 |
| MinceR | i guess the best reason for gvim is that it supports pasting in X better than plain vim | Aug 26 16:45 |
| MinceR | also, resizing panes by mouse might require X | Aug 26 16:46 |
| MinceR | support of themes with many colors can be iffy in terminals | Aug 26 16:46 |
| MinceR | and the toolbar and menu are handy too | Aug 26 16:46 |
| MinceR | (even if i rarely use them) | Aug 26 16:46 |
| MinceR | why not take advantage of X if i can? :> | Aug 26 16:46 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: no, I use kate for notes... and lyx | Aug 26 16:46 |
| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/14/biometric_id_delusion/ | Aug 26 16:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Patent Offender Microsoft Wants Advertisements to be Enforced http://bit.ly/14Tgfb | Aug 26 17:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ | Aug 26 17:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 26 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Christine A. Varney | Aug 26 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Assistant Attorney | Aug 26 17:08 |
| schestowitz | General for Antitrust " | Aug 26 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Yuck | Aug 26 17:08 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] New Blog Post: Trust In Remote Support http://bit.ly/wsqYk | Aug 26 17:29 | |
| trmanco | windows 7 junk boot time vs ubuntu's boot time http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/08/boot-time-ubuntu-910-alpha-4-vs-windows.html | Aug 26 17:34 |
| _Hicham_ | Windows 7 boots very fast | Aug 26 17:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Boot Time: Ubuntu 9.10 Alpha 4 vs. Windows 7 RC: http://is.gd/2A5cV | Aug 26 17:37 | |
| MinceR | well, not fast enough :> | Aug 26 17:40 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : very very very fast | Aug 26 17:43 |
| MinceR | you can't say "very" enough times to make it fast enough | Aug 26 17:44 |
| _Hicham_ | that doesn't seem to be a fresh install | Aug 26 17:45 |
| MinceR | a fresh install would have failed part 2 of the test, as it lacks firefox :> | Aug 26 17:46 |
| MinceR | (then again, if i want to start/stop using a computer quickly, i use suspend) | Aug 26 17:46 |
| _Hicham_ | apparently the laptop doesn't have KMS enabled | Aug 26 17:49 |
| _Hicham_ | and finally ubuntu is shipping gdm-2.27 | Aug 26 17:50 |
| _Hicham_ | after years of gdm-2.20 | Aug 26 17:50 |
| _Hicham_ | but I think that they were forced to do it just because of plymouth | Aug 26 17:50 |
| _Hicham_ | otherwise, they would be still using gdm-2.20 | Aug 26 17:51 |
| MinceR | does it have an intel GPU? | Aug 26 17:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Kid Cudi Ft. David Guetta - Memories (FULL VERSION AUGUST 2009)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ccgmo | Aug 26 18:06 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates Called “LUNIX” a Threat Back in 1997 http://bit.ly/UeyOS | Aug 26 18:09 | |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : I don't know | Aug 26 18:10 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : I have an ATI card and KMS is working perfectly for me | Aug 26 18:10 |
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| trmanco | I haven't tried kms yet | Aug 26 18:13 |
| trmanco | what is so special about it? | Aug 26 18:13 |
| _Hicham_ | trmanco : you don't have screen flickers during boot | Aug 26 18:16 |
| trmanco | cool | Aug 26 18:16 |
| _Hicham_ | ie, the X server starts early with full capabilities | Aug 26 18:16 |
| _Hicham_ | trmanco : what card do u have ? | Aug 26 18:16 |
| trmanco | ati | Aug 26 18:17 |
| trmanco | it's a R430 based chip | Aug 26 18:17 |
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| _Hicham_ | trmanco : then you will have KMS for sure | Aug 26 18:20 |
| _Hicham_ | there is a phoronix article about radeon KMS in Ubuntu | Aug 26 18:21 |
| trmanco | I might of seen it | Aug 26 18:21 |
| trmanco | have | Aug 26 18:21 |
| _Hicham_ | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_ati_kms&num=1 | Aug 26 18:24 |
| _Hicham_ | trmanco : or you might give a shot to fedora 11, it has it by default | Aug 26 18:25 |
| trmanco | I might go to arch linux | Aug 26 18:26 |
| trmanco | I'm tired of easy stuff | Aug 26 18:26 |
| trmanco | and out dated software | Aug 26 18:26 |
| _Hicham_ | trmanco : Fedora doesn't have outdated software | Aug 26 18:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/Tuxera-signs-IP-deal-with-Microsoft--/news/114094 Tuxera signs IP deal with Microsoft | Aug 26 18:27 |
| schestowitz | What do you make of it? | Aug 26 18:27 |
| _Hicham_ | everything is bleeding edge | Aug 26 18:27 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : make of what ? | Aug 26 18:27 |
| schestowitz | "The exFAT driver is aimed at OEM manufacturers and will be available for Linux first, but no details of any open source plans for exFAT were disclosed." | Aug 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Tuxera.. | Aug 26 18:28 |
| _Hicham_ | trmanco : if you want a real distro, go with lfs | Aug 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxera.net/ | Aug 26 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't seem like FOSS | Aug 26 18:28 |
| trmanco | nah | Aug 26 18:28 |
| trmanco | that too hard | Aug 26 18:29 |
| trmanco | is | Aug 26 18:29 |
| _Hicham_ | linuxfromscratch is for you | Aug 26 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Buy Now | Aug 26 18:29 |
| schestowitz | "Coming soon: Tuxera NTFS for Mac Trial, try our performance enhanced tool designed with the ease of use in mind" | Aug 26 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Seems like just some blobs vendor for the most part | Aug 26 18:29 |
| schestowitz | But the implications for NTFS may be interesting. | Aug 26 18:29 |
| _Hicham_ | trmanco : or go gentoo | Aug 26 18:30 |
| trmanco | I tried it too in a vm | Aug 26 18:30 |
| _Hicham_ | gentoo is a source based distro | Aug 26 18:30 |
| trmanco | but I didn't go very well | Aug 26 18:30 |
| trmanco | I didn't install grub correctly | Aug 26 18:31 |
| _Hicham_ | on gentoo ? | Aug 26 18:31 |
| trmanco | yes | Aug 26 18:33 |
| trmanco | I might of done it wrong | Aug 26 18:34 |
| _Hicham_ | installing grub is easy | Aug 26 18:34 |
| trmanco | it was six months ago | Aug 26 18:34 |
| trmanco | I actually followed the docs but I didn't do something right | Aug 26 18:35 |
| amarsh04 | you can always ask in #grub | Aug 26 18:38 |
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| _Hicham__ | trmanco : and since then you didn't try it again ? | Aug 26 18:41 |
| trmanco | nope | Aug 26 18:41 |
| _Hicham__ | was it on real hardware or virtualized one ? | Aug 26 18:42 |
| trmanco | virt | Aug 26 18:43 |
| trmanco | I said that I tested it in a vm | Aug 26 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Does nobody care about this deal? | Aug 26 18:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Warning Sign for Mono Proponents: NTFS and FAT http://bit.ly/98S7Z | Aug 26 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8221896.stm | Aug 26 19:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1530952/microsoft-whitewashes-black-guy | Aug 26 19:19 |
| trmanco | http://www.physorg.com/news170419268.html | Aug 26 19:23 |
| trmanco | wow | Aug 26 19:23 |
| schestowitz | You want one, trmanco ? | Aug 26 19:24 |
| trmanco | no | Aug 26 19:24 |
| trmanco | I don't wan't my house to be the start of skynet | Aug 26 19:24 |
| trmanco | :-p | Aug 26 19:24 |
| tessier | 11:28 <@ThunderChicken> Bah. I have years of experience managing M$-shit-servers; I have years of experience managing *nix machines. I'm asked for my input, and since it isn't "Go M$ yay!" it's ignored and I get criticized for being "blindly anti-M$". | Aug 26 19:24 |
| tessier | 11:29 <@ThunderChicken> HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I ACQUIRED THIS PREJUDICE AGAINST MICROSOFT? | Aug 26 19:24 |
| tessier | hahahaha | Aug 26 19:24 |
| trmanco | what I would like is the dog robot | Aug 26 19:25 |
| trmanco | can't remember it's name | Aug 26 19:25 |
| trmanco | aibo? I think | Aug 26 19:25 |
| trmanco | from sony | Aug 26 19:25 |
| trmanco | bbl | Aug 26 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Your Twitter Account is in Jeopardy < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/08/26/your-twitter-account-is-in-jeopardy > | Aug 26 19:31 |
| schestowitz | iPhones are too hot. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8223005.stm | Aug 26 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Apple is too sexy for its soap | Aug 26 19:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/26/analyzer_hacker_guilty_plea/ "Notorious recidivist hacker Ehud Tenenbaum has pleaded guilty to credit card fraud as part of a plea bargaining agreement with US authorities in a multi-million dollar fraud case." | Aug 26 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Does this run Linux? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/26/sony_daily_edition/ | Aug 26 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't say http://www.google.com/news/search?pz=1&ned=uk&hl=en&q=sony+linux | Aug 26 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Strange pairing: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/26/cisco_emc_jv/ | Aug 26 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Fujitsu cuts 1,200 UK jobs after revenue mauling < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/26/cisco_emc_jv/ > | Aug 26 19:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] PS3 Slim unscrewed http://ping.fm/oJIEw | Aug 26 19:48 | |
| MinceR | _Hicham__: is 3d acceleration also working for you? :> | Aug 26 19:49 |
| _Hicham__ | MinceR : yes | Aug 26 19:49 |
| MinceR | what card is it? | Aug 26 19:49 |
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| ACPI and 3d accel working for me with Lenny on X30 http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X30 | Aug 26 19:52 | |
| _Hicham__ | ATI X700 | Aug 26 19:52 |
| _Hicham__ | PCIE | Aug 26 19:52 |
| it is not as reliable as APM and 2d accel | Aug 26 19:52 | |
| but it plays games nicely | Aug 26 19:52 | |
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| details here http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Technology | Aug 26 19:53 | |
| EEE PC 701SD should also work but I have not tried to play games on it. | Aug 26 19:54 | |
| MinceR | oh, an ancient card | Aug 26 19:57 |
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| Ick, M$ Fanboy story .... I think I've seen that picture before. | Aug 26 20:01 | |
| LOL -> (11:32:55 AM) tessier: 11:29 <@ThunderChicken> HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I ACQUIRED THIS PREJUDICE AGAINST MICROSOFT? | Aug 26 20:03 | |
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| this GVIM, MinceR? http://portablegvim.sourceforge.net/ | Aug 26 20:06 | |
| MinceR | it's a version of gvim | Aug 26 20:06 |
| MinceR | http://www.vim.org/ | Aug 26 20:07 |
| MinceR | http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/gui.html#gui | Aug 26 20:07 |
| Is there a portable version of the whole GNU for Windows thing? | Aug 26 20:07 | |
| VIM is nice and all, but the whole Windows command line thing is gross. | Aug 26 20:08 | |
| schestowitz | Hehe. http://ovigia.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/a-filantropia-hipocrita-de-bill-e-melinda-gates-o-que-os-nossos-media-nao-dizem/ | Aug 26 20:08 |
| it would be better to haul along bash, find, tar, sed, gawk and friends ... maybe a path auto discovery tool. | Aug 26 20:09 | |
| Windows 007. funny. Secret Agent men in your computer! | Aug 26 20:10 | |
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| MinceR | dunno | Aug 26 20:10 |
| but it's true -> Microsoft uses software with backward names like Windows Genuine Advantage to inspect the contents of users' hard drives. The licensing agreement users are required to accept before using Windows warns that Microsoft claims the right to do this without warning | Aug 26 20:13 | |
| http://windows7sins.org/ | Aug 26 20:13 | |
| -> , Microsoft works in collusion with the big media companies to build restrictions on copying and playing media into their operating system. For example, at the request of NBC, Microsoft was able to prevent Windows users from recording television shows that they have the legal right to record. | Aug 26 20:14 | |
| I almost typoed that as "legal right to copy." Moral right and duty perhaps but not legal right yet. | Aug 26 20:15 | |
| Seven Devils is a good song. See here http://www.archive.org/details/rads2007-10-12.rads2007-10-12.flac16 | Aug 26 20:17 | |
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| I can't vouch for the recording quality, but that band has a lot of recordings that are excellent. | Aug 26 20:17 | |
| bbl, keep up the good work! | Aug 26 20:18 | |
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| schestowitz | "why the lucky stiff" Vanishes http://www.h-online.com/open/why-the-lucky-stiff-Vanishes--/news/114042 | Aug 26 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Doctor Who Uploaded Rorschach Images Now Being Investigated < http://techdirt.com/articles/20090825/0445295993.shtml > | Aug 26 20:50 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Give Away Free Food, Increase Revenue 300% -- And Also Build A Stronger Community < http://techdirt.com/articles/20090824/1637075985.sht ... | Aug 26 20:54 | |
| schestowitz | What every American should be made to learn about the IG Torture Report < http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/24/ig_report/ > | Aug 26 20:55 |
| schestowitz | The business of free? | Aug 26 20:55 |
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| cubezzz | NBC, you can record off antenna, done | Aug 26 20:59 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft can't stop you :) | Aug 26 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. Advert disguised as article. http://cloudcomputing.sys-con.com/node/1080227/print | Aug 26 21:01 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: for now | Aug 26 21:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/144329 | Aug 26 21:02 |
| cubezzz | it's BROADcasting, they want people to see the commercials | Aug 26 21:02 |
| cubezzz | it's a fair deal, we watch commercials, we get free shows | Aug 26 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Is this the same Nick Farrell from The INQ? | Aug 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15204/1/ | Aug 26 21:09 |
| schestowitz | He does a lot of anti-Apple and anti-FOSS these days | Aug 26 21:09 |
| cubezzz | he doesn't seem particularly anti-FOSS to me | Aug 26 21:12 |
| cubezzz | not pro-FOSS for sure :) | Aug 26 21:12 |
| cubezzz | iPhone does have better marketing | Aug 26 21:13 |
| cubezzz | everyone knows about it | Aug 26 21:13 |
| cubezzz | not saying Android isn't good, I just don't know a thing about it | Aug 26 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | brb | Aug 26 21:24 |
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| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Aug 26 21:27 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Aug 26 21:27 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Fri Jun 12 18:24:05 2009 | Aug 26 21:27 | |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Aug 26 21:27 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] truly horrible coding hacks done to meet deadline http://bit.ly/113lM4 | Aug 26 21:29 | |
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| schestowitz | The Vista 7 campaign gets a lot of coverage | Aug 26 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Mostly good coverage | Aug 26 21:45 |
| schestowitz | They echo the points about Microsoft sins (crimes) | Aug 26 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Package Management in Ubuntu Server < http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1381460&rll=1 > | Aug 26 21:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The FSF's Vista 7 campaign looks very successful so far. The points are being parroted in the press and dissent comes only from the usua ... | Aug 26 21:54 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "|Another Day, Another Coal Industry Front Group" http://ping.fm/e4myD | Aug 26 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | "1,000 CCTV cameras 'solve one crime' - http://bit.ly/4r2Fs intrusive *and* staggering waste of money #surveillance #cctv" http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/3519794489 | Aug 26 22:06 |
| ziggyfish | which one looks better? http://itsbetterwithwindows.com/ or http://windows7sins.org/ | Aug 26 22:14 |
| MinceR | they could both use a facelift, if that's what you mean | Aug 26 22:14 |
| ziggyfish | IMHO http://windows7sins.org/ looks better, and more professional | Aug 26 22:14 |
| MinceR | http://itsbetterwithwindows.com/ could do without the iforgotwherethespacebuttonwas style (but even then it would be just a bunch of lies, so who cares) | Aug 26 22:16 |
| MinceR | http://windows7sins.org/ could do without the stupid yellow backgrounds | Aug 26 22:16 |
| ziggyfish | just wish they could remove the yellow from the website | Aug 26 22:16 |
| ziggyfish | it's not good to look at in the morning | Aug 26 22:16 |
| MinceR | perhaps a little more of borders/frames and shadows | Aug 26 22:16 |
| MinceR | it looks very bare now | Aug 26 22:17 |
| MinceR | and yet not minimalistic | Aug 26 22:17 |
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| ziggyfish | time to go to work | Aug 26 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Why Craigslist Is Such a Mess < http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/magazine/17-09/ff_craigslist > | Aug 26 22:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Current world market for open source: 41%, according to Microsoft http://bit.ly/TZR73 | Aug 26 22:23 | |
| _Hicham_ | who is proficient in Java in here ? | Aug 26 22:23 |
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| *MinceR is somewhat proficient in java 2 | Aug 26 22:25 | |
| MinceR | (which is hell) | Aug 26 22:25 |
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| MinceR | i'm waiting for java 7, which is supposed to be another improvement since java 5 | Aug 26 22:26 |
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| _Hicham_ | MinceR : is there any way to suppress the javac warning : " this is Sun Proprietary API and maybe removed in a future release?" | Aug 26 22:29 |
| MinceR | now that i don't know | Aug 26 22:29 |
| MinceR | i haven't even seen such warnings, they probably appeared in the period after i stopped coding in java :) | Aug 26 22:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2009/08/comparing-readingmultimedia-suitability.html < Comparing Reading/Multimedia Suitability Between the New Pixel Qi and Other Displays | Aug 26 22:30 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : I am packaging some java stuff and this warning is driving me nut | Aug 26 22:30 |
| MinceR | it only appears on compilation anyway, doesn't it? | Aug 26 22:31 |
| _Hicham_ | MinceR : yes | Aug 26 22:33 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux Starts a Lot Faster Than Vista 7 http://ping.fm/NqMT4 | Aug 26 22:48 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux Luminaries Blog Launched http://ping.fm/PoFT0 | Aug 26 22:50 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Imonggo Ported to GNU/Linux http://ping.fm/UySM5 | Aug 26 22:51 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "if you don't download Firefox, we'll make you suffer." http://www.ie8-nickelback.com/ | Aug 26 22:51 | |
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| MinceR | after epic games, this is how id software falls to the side of evil: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/08/24/0059218/Linux-Port-For-ids-Tech-5-Graphics-Engine-Unlikely?from=rss | Aug 26 22:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linux 2.6.31 in Detail, New X Server 1.6 http://ping.fm/0WUlZ http://ping.fm/DMqXm | Aug 26 22:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another New Video Editor for GNU/Linux http://ping.fm/9gy04 | Aug 26 22:59 | |
| cubezzz | lots of comments on sjvn's blog | Aug 26 22:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Popcorn Hour C-200 Media Player Runs GNU/Linux http://ping.fm/csvwC | Aug 26 23:03 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why Having Many Distribution is Wonderful and Vital http://ping.fm/JweAy | Aug 26 23:04 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Success in Embedded Devices Drives Growth in Linux http://ping.fm/qo5Rw | Aug 26 23:06 | |
| cubezzz | Darl McBride seems quite a nasty guy | Aug 26 23:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Motorola Goes with Linux in Phones http://ping.fm/xZfUS | Aug 26 23:07 | |
| cubezzz | always suing something | Aug 26 23:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Nokia Goes with Linux in Phones http://ping.fm/AmuIe | Aug 26 23:08 | |
| cubezzz | hmmm, linux player with blu-ray support | Aug 26 23:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Proprietary Scandal Helps Free Software Establish Footing http://ping.fm/YLJDm | Aug 26 23:11 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Facebook Picks Free Software Advocate to Join Team http://ping.fm/FhWk8 | Aug 26 23:13 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Stallman Aims to Liberate Nations Less Corrupted by Microsoft http://ping.fm/K8OwR | Aug 26 23:17 | |
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| Nirrad1st | does anyone here now what type of partition the Acer recovery uses? | Aug 26 23:19 |
| Nirrad1st | sorry not type, but format? | Aug 26 23:19 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Wikimedia Receives Another $2,000,000 for Its Good Work http://ping.fm/QcXJm | Aug 26 23:22 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RIM to Rely More on Free Software, http://ping.fm/cBoob | Aug 26 23:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Geodata.gov and Open.gov Move in the Right Direction http://ping.fm/nBlmI http://ping.fm/5oVll http://ping.fm/8yfIK | Aug 26 23:25 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sony Outdoes Amazon with an eBook Reader (Probably Linux) http://ping.fm/uapQ0 | Aug 26 23:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Intellectual Monopolies Don't Last Forever http://ping.fm/gQFmn | Aug 26 23:32 | |
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| _goblin | good evening.... | Aug 26 23:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mises Institute Slams Notion of "Intellectual Property" http://ping.fm/X0fan | Aug 26 23:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ACTA Conspiracy of Elites Seen as "Unconstitutional" http://ping.fm/ZTMEo | Aug 26 23:37 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just installed Chromium Build 4.0.204.0! If you haven't at least tried #Chromium you should give it a go...Ive now left FF completely. | Aug 26 23:37 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Although I should add #Thunderbird is still on my list of favorite apps! | Aug 26 23:38 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Mess in the UK Caused by Microsoft http://ping.fm/YBSYA http://ping.fm/pvA0p | Aug 26 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | Hey, _goblin | Aug 26 23:47 |
| _goblin | hi! | Aug 26 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Just finished catchingh up | Aug 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: sorry I hadn't replied | Aug 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Been busy in Twitter/dentica | Aug 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Heh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvM-6iiCFcw&NR=1 | Aug 26 23:53 |
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