| trmanco | phIRCe #boycottnovell :You need to be a channel operator to do that | Sep 25 00:00 |
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| trmanco | :) | Sep 25 00:00 |
| wallclimber | you're funny. :) | Sep 25 00:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] CNET/Silicon.com/ZDNet Jointly Spread Anti-Free Software FUD http://bit.ly/lMQrW | Sep 25 00:03 | |
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| schestowitz | Asay got insulted again. "@schestowitz "No friend to open source" bc I actually think abt my positions and alter them when wrong? Would that you would try it, too' | Sep 25 00:17 |
| schestowitz | "@mjasay changing positions is a strength, not a weakness. If shows you're open minded. I do say good things about you, too." | Sep 25 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Why do people expect to be praised 100% of the time? | Sep 25 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Disagreements are natural, they should accept them | Sep 25 00:18 |
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| cubezzz | wow, firefox really messed up there | Sep 25 00:29 |
| cubezzz | thought the OS itself was borked | Sep 25 00:29 |
| cubezzz | out of memory then finally it just exited | Sep 25 00:30 |
| cubezzz | so what was it that insulted Asay? | Sep 25 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Not sure | Sep 25 00:32 |
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| trmanco | gn all | Sep 25 00:34 |
| cubezzz | later | Sep 25 00:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaW4Ol3_M1o&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Sep 25 00:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ReuLZ2quc&feature=channel | Sep 25 00:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJjQMwEjC1I&feature=channel | Sep 25 00:43 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz there are 2 relevant q's about GNASH: (1) does it do YouTube flawlessly? (2) Weebl & Bob flawlessly? nothing else matters. | Sep 25 00:52 | |
| cubezzz | w00t, got the file command working in embedix | Sep 25 00:55 |
| cubezzz | file-5.03 ftw | Sep 25 00:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Seems like Grubby has made a little thread on the linxxx site. 1 referral from that site! LOL.. 7 chat users, 1 reader..#windows #fail | Sep 25 01:00 | |
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| schestowitz | Funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcHdF1eHhgc&NR=1 | Sep 25 01:40 |
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| cubezzz | got my email server blacklisted by barruacudacentral today | Sep 25 02:38 |
| cubezzz | they seem to be quite notorious | Sep 25 02:39 |
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| DaemonFC | Newegg never really seems to run out of "refurbished" Zunes | Sep 25 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | tells you what the return rate must be like | Sep 25 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855150091R | Sep 25 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | these play Vorbis but I still think the Sansa is a better deal | Sep 25 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | just for the Micro SD expansion | Sep 25 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | oh, actually these do have expansion capability | Sep 25 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's new | Sep 25 03:13 |
| cubezzz | lol | Sep 25 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | the last model didn't | Sep 25 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | without expansion capability, the player is a total waste of money | Sep 25 03:14 |
| *cubezzz looks down at his 2002 zaurus and smiles | Sep 25 03:14 | |
| DaemonFC | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10360305-16.html | Sep 25 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | wrt Expression Web, it's actually not a bad program and it does spit out standards compliant pages | Sep 25 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's not Frontpage | Sep 25 03:25 |
| cubezzz | have you tried nvu? | Sep 25 03:28 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, I wonder if Matt Asay was who schestowitz was talking to | Sep 25 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | Nvu is alright for free | Sep 25 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://bluegriffon.org/ | Sep 25 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | that's the continuation of Nvu | Sep 25 03:36 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @deepakp7 just curious - is there a lot 2 rejoice in havin built a craft that managed to carry an american device that discovered traces | Sep 25 03:50 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @surekhapillai Make it India Yesterday RT @India_Today: NASA confirms water on moon, courtesy ISRO http://bit.ly/TbgZI | Sep 25 04:18 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I still say Lanky Lemming or Lazy Lardarse would be a better name for the new Ubuntu | Sep 25 05:29 | |
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| twitter1 | thistleweb trolls the BN IRC via Twitter microblog... how can I block that? | Sep 25 06:36 |
| twitter1 | GPE rises again? | Sep 25 06:40 |
| twitter1 | http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/ | Sep 25 06:40 |
| twitter1 | Opie looks good and lively http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ | Sep 25 06:42 |
| twitter1 | Angstrom is alive http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ | Sep 25 06:44 |
| twitter1 | OpenEmbedded http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page | Sep 25 06:45 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://twitter.com/mjasay/statuses/4355234489 | Sep 25 07:37 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz thanks. I overreacted. Not like that has ever happened before. (-: " | Sep 25 07:37 |
| schestowitz | It's like a confidence issue. | Sep 25 07:37 |
| schestowitz | Tyson on stupid design: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgSaTYLYRGI | Sep 25 07:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Most of the Chandrayan media headline captures the anthroponcentric desires to colonize the Moon for the benefit of the mankind. | Sep 25 07:46 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] The narratives reads like something similar to colonial narratives of "civilziational" process #chandrayan | Sep 25 07:47 | |
| twitter1 | good morning, roy | Sep 25 07:50 |
| twitter1 | yesterday, I put testing on my EEE PC 701. KDE 4 is not as handy or as fast as E16 on a tiny netbook screen, but it worked and looked nice. | Sep 25 07:52 |
| twitter1 | I'm not sure how to turn on the nifty cube thing. That is truly setting it to "kill" | Sep 25 07:53 |
| twitter1 | It already looks great | Sep 25 07:53 |
| twitter1 | revolving around the cube would just be blow away great | Sep 25 07:53 |
| schestowitz | There's KDE for netbooks | Sep 25 07:54 |
| schestowitz | Don't use vanilla KDE | Sep 25 07:54 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Manorama's Main title is "Eeran nilaavu" and inside, "Ambilippoyka" as if the moon were full of lakes and rivers! | Sep 25 08:05 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @hfactor ചന്ദ്രനില് വെള്ളം, മാധ്യമ തലക്കെട്ടുകള് - മംഗളം : "നമ്മുക്ക് ചന്ദ്രനില് പോയി രാപ്പാര്ക്കാം" മനോരമ: "ഈറന് നിലാവ്" | Sep 25 08:05 | |
| twitter1 | Ah.... schestowitz: There's KDE for netbooks | Sep 25 08:16 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Hindu Cartoon on #chandrayan Rocks http://tr.im/zGlH #moon #water | Sep 25 08:19 | |
| twitter1 | newspaper .... why not just use virtual desktops and edge flipping? | Sep 25 08:19 |
| twitter1 | anyway, thanks for the tip. | Sep 25 08:22 |
| twitter1 | I was just happy to have a device that had graphics acceleration and could deal with KDE 4. | Sep 25 08:23 |
| twitter1 | EEEPC has VGA out and should also have a Vanilla version of KDE for docked use. | Sep 25 08:23 |
| twitter1 | Vanilla gets a good review http://adymo.blogspot.com/2009/02/kde-42-on-eeepc-mini-review.html | Sep 25 08:28 |
| twitter1 | the comments were trolled to hell. | Sep 25 08:32 |
| twitter1 | it's like the M$ trash bags patrol Google results. | Sep 25 08:32 |
| twitter1 | In the face of strong competition, evangelism's focus will shift to the next version .... http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/24/238251/Microsoft-Releases-Prototype-of-Research-OS-Barrelfish | Sep 25 08:37 |
| twitter1 | it's minwin, mojave, singularity, fish in a barrel! M$ is falling all over itself. | Sep 25 08:42 |
| twitter1 | US Customs gets dumber http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/24/2148224/High-Tech-Gadgets-Can-Pose-Problems-At-Mexican-Border | Sep 25 08:44 |
| schestowitz | You can disable desktp effects in kcontrol | Sep 25 08:45 |
| twitter1 | I'm looking to turn them on to see what they are. | Sep 25 08:47 |
| twitter1 | Why is it that USB vrs IEEE 1394 reminds me a lot of IDE vrs SCSI? | Sep 25 08:49 |
| twitter1 | hmmmmm. | Sep 25 08:49 |
| twitter1 | where the better interface is clobbered and drowned out by some crappy Wintel wanna be. | Sep 25 08:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #Malayalam #Wikipedia currently has 10984 articles with a page depth of 177. malayalam wikipedia | Sep 25 08:50 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Is #Moblin a #Microsoft-taxed Linux in the Making? minded.http://ping.fm/l4Uk6 | Sep 25 08:54 | |
| twitter1 | ugh, I hate this lie -> nearly every consumer device you pick up at the local discount store will work in Windows. | Sep 25 08:55 |
| twitter1 | It's not true any more than Windows works at all. | Sep 25 08:55 |
| twitter1 | junk you pick up might sort of work on one Windows version or another, but it won't work on all of them and sooner or later it won't work on the one you have. | Sep 25 08:56 |
| twitter1 | A better model is the EEE PC. It does everything most people want, so they don't have to waste their time and money buying the pieces at the discount store. | Sep 25 08:57 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Shows Its #Hypocrisy Again, Introduces WebsiteDump http://ping.fm/LK1XD | Sep 25 09:41 | |
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| twitter1 | the Slog against Google hits paydirt, again. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/09/24/urnidgns852573C4006938800025763B0073F5AE.DTL | Sep 25 09:55 |
| twitter1 | Google Books will be delayed. | Sep 25 09:56 |
| twitter1 | What chance do the rest of us have to make libraries? | Sep 25 09:56 |
| twitter1 | Suppose my local library decided to put it's holdings online. They would be slapped down quickly. | Sep 25 09:57 |
| twitter1 | The day is coming when no serious work will be published on paper. How will people make libraries if they can't share? | Sep 25 09:58 |
| twitter1 | This delay is a double win for M$. They hamper both sharing and a competitor. | Sep 25 09:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post - Next Witness M’Lud http://tinyurl.com/yb36f9j | Sep 25 10:00 | |
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| twitter1 | time for a little shut eye | Sep 25 10:12 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO partners with patent troll to worsen the economic crisis in Europe: http://i5.be/K2 | Sep 25 10:19 | |
| schestowitz | Google agreed to make the data portable and usable by others | Sep 25 10:23 |
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| schestowitz | Oh no. | Sep 25 10:27 |
| schestowitz | Susan boycott Ubuntu | Sep 25 10:27 |
| schestowitz | "I've always wanted to ignore (boycott) ubuntu. Not in the same outspoken way Roy boycotts Novell, but in my own little "ain't gonna link to nothing Ubuntu" way." | Sep 25 10:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/39826 | Sep 25 10:27 |
| cubezzz | for that matter why not do the boycottmicrosoft thing | Sep 25 10:29 |
| cubezzz | is microsoft less evil than novell? | Sep 25 10:29 |
| cubezzz | thank you Captain Boycott :) | Sep 25 10:30 |
| schestowitz | I'll post a clarification | Sep 25 10:31 |
| cubezzz | why Novell did any deal with Microsoft is beyond my understanding | Sep 25 10:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 25 10:31 |
| cubezzz | they were enemies | Sep 25 10:31 |
| schestowitz | Just to clarify, it is the _software patents_ aspects of the Novell deal which is criticised in Novell's case. It is a matter of self defence, for the sake of Linux that can compete on price, not SCOed into unjust taxation. | Sep 25 10:32 |
| schestowitz | I tell Susan: "I suggest you target the _aspect_ of Ubuntu that bothers you, not the whole thing (users for example would feel alienated). For instance, I'm not strongly opposed to OpenSUSE or SLE* users; it's not their fault. They are usually bystanders." | Sep 25 10:32 |
| schestowitz | "Suffice to say, there are many -- including Novell employees -- who libel me for saying the truth; don't be surprised to be personally attacked soon, even with lies." | Sep 25 10:34 |
| schestowitz | http://geekfeminism.org/2009/09/23/open-letter-to-mark-shuttleworth/ | Sep 25 10:34 |
| schestowitz | This is how it started | Sep 25 10:34 |
| cubezzz | ok, but what did Shuttleworth say that set them off? | Sep 25 10:37 |
| cubezzz | anyway, I'm getting closer to the position of NFS these days | Sep 25 10:37 |
| cubezzz | I could criticize Fedora, I could criticize Ubuntu | Sep 25 10:38 |
| cubezzz | tried Ubuntu, didn't care for it | Sep 25 10:38 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu 9.10's New Wallpapers and More http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-9-10-039-s-New-Wallpapers-and-More-122551.shtml | Sep 25 10:47 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: see links above | Sep 25 10:47 |
| schestowitz | Soemthign about "hard to explain to girls" | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe his tact MODULE was switched off when he said that | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | BIG deal..... | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | He made a mistake | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure he's apologise | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Susan has always disliked Ubuntu | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | So this is her excuse, I'd say | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Trigger if you like | Sep 25 10:48 |
| schestowitz | jono is not in IRC right now | Sep 25 10:50 |
| schestowitz | They should have mark apologise ASAP to prevent trouble | Sep 25 10:50 |
| schestowitz | http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/09/change-ctrl-alt-delete-behavior-to-open.html | Sep 25 10:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | huh | Sep 25 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats not actually a bad idea | Sep 25 11:01 |
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| schestowitz | I've just added an update: | Sep 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | I think this jar of worms was already opened with the blog entry. I'm sure Mark would retract and apologise, which would also lead to a productive solution. | Sep 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Bear in mind that myself and others _did_ try to communicate with Novell politely and have the deal revoked (_many_ in the OpenSUSE community did, including myself, with SUSE installed exclusively at home and at work). My activity at Boycott Novell started (and rants came into existence) _after_ Novell had made it clear that it chose Microsoft over the community and did not apologise. It was a management blunder with many victims. | Sep 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 25 11:04 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/09/24/google-exec-on-canada-its-not-as-competitive | Sep 25 11:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/09/24/sean-salisbury-allegedly-threatens-to-sue-gawker-owned-deadspin | Sep 25 11:05 |
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| trmanco | http://download.ooo4kids.org/ | Sep 25 11:34 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] OW FUCK AGH JUST RIPPED OUT LEFT NIPPLE RING migrated to surface so not a+e job. but FFFUUU not out this weekend oddly enough. | Sep 25 11:49 | |
| Diablo-D3 | wtf | Sep 25 11:50 |
| oiaohm | Ok at least I am not alone in that thinking. | Sep 25 11:50 |
| trmanco | heh | Sep 25 11:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] DON’T Boycott Ubuntu http://ping.fm/othVV | Sep 25 11:54 | |
| schestowitz | I have just written down the reasons not to boycott Ubuntu | Sep 25 11:56 |
| schestowitz | I hope Mark will apologise and Susan change her mind. | Sep 25 11:56 |
| trmanco | ... | Sep 25 12:05 |
| trmanco | who is next? | Sep 25 12:06 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] this is beautiful. @skud, you seen this? http://bit.ly/4aWUE9 HT @alisonw | Sep 25 12:13 | |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: is the bot nocturnal? | Sep 25 12:29 |
| trmanco | what do you mean? | Sep 25 12:29 |
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| schestowitz | Will You Pay Google's Bandwidth Bill? < http://techdirt.com/articles/20090924/1519516307.shtml > | Sep 25 12:31 |
| phIRCe | Title: Dear WSJ: Will You Pay Google's Bandwidth Bill? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.18 KB | Sep 25 12:31 |
| wallclimber | good morning (it's 4:30am here...yawn) | Sep 25 12:31 |
| schestowitz | You usually run it at night | Sep 25 12:31 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: dark, still. | Sep 25 12:31 |
| trmanco | I'm am about to fix something | Sep 25 12:31 |
| schestowitz | I hate waking up in the dark, used to do it for years... | Sep 25 12:31 |
| wallclimber | yes, still dark, even the dog's still asleep | Sep 25 12:32 |
| trmanco | but I'll do it later | Sep 25 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Partial victory in the UK: http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6848502.ece | Sep 25 12:32 |
| phIRCe | Title: Arts & Entertainment News, Features, Interviews | Times Online .::. Size~: 157.81 KB | Sep 25 12:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20090924/0418246304.shtml | Sep 25 12:34 |
| phIRCe | Title: French Court Finds Violation Of GPL... Despite No Involvement Of Copyright Holder | Techdirt .::. Size~: 34.46 KB | Sep 25 12:34 |
| schestowitz | "Still, it does raise questions over who has the right to make sure the GPL is enforced." | Sep 25 12:34 |
| schestowitz | "So can I file suit in France to enforce Apple's EULAs?" | Sep 25 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Weird, relates to the psystar case perhaps | Sep 25 12:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/obama-stands-behind-state-secrets-in-spy-case/ | Sep 25 12:35 |
| phIRCe | Title: Obama Stands Behind ‘State Secrets’ in Spy Case | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 88.72 KB | Sep 25 12:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/09/shield-law-definition-of-journalist-gets-professionalized/ | Sep 25 12:36 |
| phIRCe | Title: Shield law: Definition of “journalist” gets professionalized » Nieman Journalism Lab .::. Size~: 37.3 KB | Sep 25 12:36 |
| schestowitz | "As I observed last week, the shield law obviously needs a definition that limits its scope, but the professional definition, which now seems inevitable, would exclude student journalists as well as bloggers with a day job." | Sep 25 12:36 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* some people have not realised that with CC and new licences, photos have become a commodity... http://blog.entrepreneur.com/2009/09/why-buy-the-cow-when-you-get-the-download-for-free.php | Sep 25 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | Twitter might have fewer downtime issue... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/twitter_another_100m/ | Sep 25 12:43 |
| phIRCe | Title: Twitter gets $100m injection • The Register .::. Size~: 19.24 KB | Sep 25 12:44 |
| schestowitz | "Among other things, this introduces IE to the world of HTML5, the next generation hypertext markup language that Microsoft is, shall we say, rather slow to adopt." | Sep 25 12:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/google_chrome_frame_kerfuffle/ | Sep 25 12:53 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft howls as Google turns IE into Chrome • The Register .::. Size~: 27.03 KB | Sep 25 12:53 |
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| wallclimber | Ammo rationing at Wal-Mart as panic buying sweeps US | Sep 25 12:56 |
| wallclimber | "The USA is suffering the most severe ammunition famine in living memory. Gun fanciers, fearing a Democrat crackdown on every American's right to pack heat, are clearing shelves at ammo shops and hoarding cartridges." | Sep 25 12:56 |
| wallclimber | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/ammo_hoarding_sweeps_us/ | Sep 25 12:56 |
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| wallclimber | I'm laughing, the poor gun-tote'n rednecks are apparently panicking | Sep 25 12:57 |
| wallclimber | - now where'd I put that bullet-proof overcoat...hmmm | Sep 25 12:58 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] anivar@adarshpillai & @JoshuaNewtonn (Filmic)Uses and Abuses of Condoms: It is good to do a comparative study btw kaminey and ritu | Sep 25 13:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://rebelreports.com/post/187866521/cheney-and-rumsfelds-close-friend-throws-out-suit RMS: "The judge is a personal friend of Cheney and Rumsfeld, which ought to disqualify him." | Sep 25 13:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Tomgram: War Is Peace" http://ping.fm/TFdhd | Sep 25 13:08 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Why do pages like this exist? 80% of the page is BLANK SPACE FFS http://tinyurl.com/ye2kghq | Sep 25 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/09/11/world/AP-EU-Germany-Arctic-Passage.html | Sep 25 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://kucinich.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2816&Itemid=1 | Sep 25 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | Ridiculous amounts: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/18/trafigura-victims-compensation-offer | Sep 25 13:15 |
| schestowitz | “Olmert, Olmert, it is true – They’re waiting in The Hague for you!” http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1253361627/ | Sep 25 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/20/united-nations-summit-climate-change | Sep 25 13:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes men get their way: http://nypost-se.com/ | Sep 25 13:20 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "China and India expected to seize initiative at New York climate talks" http://ping.fm/pZrSK Will other nations subscribe to it? | Sep 25 13:21 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Anatomy of Injustice: The Unsolved Killings of Journalists in Russia" http://ping.fm/lFaW6 The West still have /relatively/ free press | Sep 25 13:23 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Obama does something right: "Barack Obama ready to slash US nuclear arsenal" < http://ping.fm/3XRUX > | Sep 25 13:30 | |
| schestowitz | This is weird. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/351808/firefox-tidies-up-with-office-2007s-ribbon | Sep 25 13:50 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Listening to the Alex Jones radio station on VLC and wondering what do next.. | Sep 25 14:03 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Numara, A zipped mp3 behind a security-fail sign up page does not a podcast make. http://bit.ly/NWeJe http://bit.ly/WzCtP | Sep 25 14:08 | |
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| schestowitz | Nice: http://hof.povray.org/ listening to http://www.twit.tv/floss24 | Sep 25 14:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.cracked.com/article/120_the-5-most-ridiculously-awful-computers-ever-made/ | Sep 25 14:13 |
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| *schestowitz sets ban on Guest_23145!*@* | Sep 25 14:15 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked Guest_23145 from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Sep 25 14:15 | |
| schestowitz | Mutex again. | Sep 25 14:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What's wrong in this photo http://ping.fm/BvbmU [IMG] | Sep 25 14:40 | |
| trmanco | !quit phIRCe | Sep 25 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://gas2.org/2009/09/23/electric-mountain-bike-gets-the-equivalent-of-2287-mpg/ | Sep 25 14:44 |
| trmanco | I'll bring the bot in in a while | Sep 25 14:44 |
| schestowitz | It's like "world+dog (bot)" | Sep 25 14:44 |
| schestowitz | London cops finally apologise for mugging geek -- four years later < http://www.boingboing.net/2009/09/24/london-cops-finally.html > | Sep 25 14:46 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I'm sensing all sorts of fun with 9.10 Lewd Lemon or is it Licked Lepar? | Sep 25 14:50 | |
| satipera | Okay what exactly did MS say? | Sep 25 14:50 |
| satipera | . | Sep 25 14:52 |
| satipera | Okay what exactly did Mark S say? | Sep 25 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | What is a Browser? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ | Sep 25 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | YouTube: "A browser is when you know what you're looking for, and a search engine is when you're looking for something." | Sep 25 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. "Published by deadline" http://www.hpccommunity.org/f55/hpc-benchmarking-quick-primer-624/ | Sep 25 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | On why Africa gets Linux from IBM: | Sep 25 15:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-09-24-004-35-OS-BZ-0000 | Sep 25 15:01 |
| schestowitz | "It's ALWAYS the situation in the USA. While the rest of the world gets the option of simple, affordable & well-designed products, the USA us forced to consume overpriced, over-built crap." | Sep 25 15:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC would know.... | Sep 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | The UK and the US are very resistant to Linux | Sep 25 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, not really | Sep 25 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | companies look at what would cost them the most money | Sep 25 15:02 |
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| DaemonFC | support, training, new software applications, maintenance, cost of keeping up to date, etc | Sep 25 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you're starting out on something like RHEL from the get go, you save a lot of money | Sep 25 15:03 |
| schestowitz | People should buy stuff which they know works with Linux:....http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10013828o-2000498448b,00.htm | Sep 25 15:03 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: MS employee caught astrotrolling on a gaming site: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=granturismo&thread.id=424626 | Sep 25 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you have to retrain everyone and you have 50,000 systems depending on Windows apps | Sep 25 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | well, that costs a LOT of money | Sep 25 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | millions of dollars | Sep 25 15:03 |
| *schestowitz looks | Sep 25 15:04 | |
| DaemonFC | suddenly you'll have to explain to shareholders why you lost several million dollars in that quarter | Sep 25 15:04 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: the original source of the story seems to have gone down | Sep 25 15:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no, contumers are less concerned about cost | Sep 25 15:04 |
| schestowitz | They just buy new PCs | Sep 25 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | even if Linux would save you money over the next 5 years, it would murder you during the transition | Sep 25 15:04 |
| Will__ | google for Microsoft gt5 employee trolling,etc and you might find more about it | Sep 25 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | companies look at the quarter, maybe the next quarter or two | Sep 25 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Will__: could he fake identity? | Sep 25 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they've been hesitant to switch to Linux | Sep 25 15:06 |
| schestowitz | Can they tell for sure he's not forging? | Sep 25 15:06 |
| schestowitz | I mean, why would a person append work E-mail? | Sep 25 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | I never said it was smart | Sep 25 15:06 |
| schestowitz | It's like people who sign comments with boycottnovell.com | Sep 25 15:06 |
| schestowitz | To mischaracterise | Sep 25 15:06 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: This was what raised a flag for me: "Well ignoring the fact that the poster seems to have conveniently forgotten about GT5 Prologue and GT PSP it seem pretty standard forum posting behavior, doesn’t it? Well, not quite because it was quickly followed up by this post by one of the forum mods, BishopT. Dude, if you’re going to make posts like this – you shouldn’t sign up for a GAF account with your | Sep 25 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's a lot easier to just pack up and move if you're a home users and you have a system or two | Sep 25 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | *user | Sep 25 15:07 |
| schestowitz | I saw this before, Will__ | Sep 25 15:07 |
| schestowitz | People said that Microsoft employs Turfs vs PS3 | Sep 25 15:07 |
| schestowitz | Back in early 2007 | Sep 25 15:07 |
| schestowitz | I can find the links | Sep 25 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | my opinion is that the XBOX 360 and PS3 are both unreliable mass produced garbage | Sep 25 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | and now Sony is hostile to Linux as well | Sep 25 15:09 |
| Will__ | this is a fresh example. | Sep 25 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | the only console without massive failure rates is the Wii | Sep 25 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | and that most ly has in house games | Sep 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz | There's the Novell.com IP/alias people who smear BN in other sites | Sep 25 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | *mostly | Sep 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Also in BN, until I started unmasking them | Sep 25 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Will__: I'll use it, thanks | Sep 25 15:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Info_Activism Set of essays debating freedom, ICT & human development, Includes papers by Lawrence Liang & @EthanZ http://tr.im/zIah | Sep 25 15:12 | |
| Will__ | schestowitz: here's what appears to be the original frum thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?s=d17892722d4a1aa4eb1b26e5bc947b68&p=17728915#post17728915 | Sep 25 15:13 |
| Will__ | s/frum/forum | Sep 25 15:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-09-25-006-35-OP-CY-0006 | Sep 25 15:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-09-25-006-35-OP-CY-0005 | Sep 25 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Big flames over the "boycott Ubuntu" post from Susan | Sep 25 15:14 |
| Will__ | and one more news post about the gt5 thing: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2009/09/25/want-to-troll-the-gran-turismo-5-date-dont-get-caught/ | Sep 25 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Will__: noted | Sep 25 15:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?s=d17892722d4a1aa4eb1b26e5bc947b68&p=17728915#post17728915 | Sep 25 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Will__: I thought it would be more overt | Sep 25 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Like the case where someone published reviews of XBox stuff and it turned out to be a MS employee | Sep 25 15:17 |
| wallclimber | I read the susan post and all the comments. It's sad to see the interpretations of an off the cuff comment taken so seriously. I get miffed at "stupid user" comments sometimes (even though I probably am one), but what Mark said doesn't seem like such a big deal to me. | Sep 25 15:18 |
| wallclimber | He seems pretty good at smoothing things over, most of the time, so hopefully this will pass. | Sep 25 15:19 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: Well,they can't all be big things. There's no way to know if this was just an MS employee acting on his own with his own opinions or doing the company's bidding. | Sep 25 15:20 |
| Will__ | But you'd think he would have covered his tracks better. | Sep 25 15:21 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: I was hoping to see jono around here | Sep 25 15:21 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: Susan never likes Ubuntu much | Sep 25 15:21 |
| *Will__ is intentionally staying out of the Shuttleworth drama, especially since he hasn't seen the source statement in context yet. | Sep 25 15:22 | |
| schestowitz | Will__: it just shows how sad the xbox team is | Sep 25 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Many of them have jumped ship for 2 years | Sep 25 15:22 |
| wallclimber | jono doesn't seem to say much when he's here. | Sep 25 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Including Peter | Sep 25 15:22 |
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| schestowitz | Will__: neither have I | Sep 25 15:23 |
| schestowitz | [re "seen in context"] | Sep 25 15:23 |
| schestowitz | I probably ought to post some links news... been an OK day | Sep 25 15:24 |
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| wallclimber | It all just seems silly to me that, with all the speakers and information packed into those big gatherings, people only seem to be able to focus on one small comment. . | Sep 25 15:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @lilyroseallen i've shut down the blog, the abuse was getting too much | Sep 25 15:26 | |
| Will__ | schestowitz: If it seems like I have something against the Xbox, it's for two reasons: 1.) The lack of quality in Xbox design is inexcusable. A problem with the launch design is forgivable, but they've redesigned the internals at least 3-4 times now, and the problems still happen. Maybe less than before, but still more than people should deem acceptable. 2.) Having seen what MS monopoly power did to the PC industry, | Sep 25 15:26 |
| wallclimber | are the xboxes the ones that burn up? | Sep 25 15:27 |
| Will__ | yep. The 360s, anyway. The original Xbox 1 units were built like tanks, I hear. But, IIRC, MS didn't manufacture that hardware themselves. | Sep 25 15:28 |
| schestowitz | http://tweetreach.com/reach?q=%23intellectualmonopolies | Sep 25 15:28 |
| schestowitz | We starts a movement vs intellectualmonopolies :-) | Sep 25 15:28 |
| wallclimber | i have a grandson that's begging for an xbox, i should probably tell his mom about it. | Sep 25 15:29 |
| wallclimber | (looking for links now) | Sep 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | "units were built like tanks" | Sep 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | pls elaborate | Sep 25 15:29 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: for the lub of the children... http://slated.org/microsoft_kills_baby | Sep 25 15:30 |
| schestowitz | *luv | Sep 25 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | 50,000 Muslim extremists to gather in US capital | Sep 25 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | what could go wrong? | Sep 25 15:30 |
| wallclimber | Roy, that link is from 2007 (still a good read, but) are they still that bad? | Sep 25 15:31 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: Well, I never owned one, but I heard they were pretty reliable, at least from friends that had one. Didn't overheat and melt the components/solder like the 360s have. Didn't damage discs. Were fairly sturdy. At least, again, that's what people I knew said. | Sep 25 15:31 |
| schestowitz | http://news.mongabay.com/2009/0922-prince_charles_tony_juniper_interview.html Prince Charles making progress in effort to save rainforests, says leading British environmentalist | Sep 25 15:31 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: But of course, that statement could also be applied to their size too. :) | Sep 25 15:31 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: yes! | Sep 25 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Will__, I'm never buying another Microsoft console just because of the failure rate alone | Sep 25 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Sony disgusts me more than Microsoft | Sep 25 15:32 |
| schestowitz | The warranty is better | Sep 25 15:32 |
| wallclimber | probably, once the xboxes began getting popular Microsoft decided to find a cheaper way to make them. | Sep 25 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Unless you want to refund a 'dead baby' | Sep 25 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | SecuROM/Fake CDs with the rootkit virus | Sep 25 15:32 |
| schestowitz | They only provide boxed for returns of XBoxes | Sep 25 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Ask DaemonFC | Sep 25 15:32 |
| schestowitz | he got burned by it, not literally | Sep 25 15:32 |
| schestowitz | 6 times | Sep 25 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They try not to even send you a box | Sep 25 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | they try to get you to let them email you a shipping label to print out | Sep 25 15:33 |
| Will__ | What MS needs to do is make their own "360 slim" and solve all hardware problems once and for all. | Sep 25 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Oh yeah | Sep 25 15:33 |
| schestowitz | They "ran out of coffins" I read a year ago | Sep 25 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | they'll still send you one if you insist | Sep 25 15:34 |
| wallclimber | I think I read about someone in Alaska trying to get their xbox sent back, but the town they lived in wasn't in Microsoft's database, so they never would send it back...it was funny, but very frustrating, I'm sure. | Sep 25 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Yrs | Sep 25 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 25 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | mine has been laying there dead for most of this year because I just don't want to deal with them again | Sep 25 15:34 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it in BN, wallclimber | Sep 25 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't even make it through the first level of Mass Effect and it just konked out and died | Sep 25 15:34 |
| wallclimber | well, that's prolly where i read it then :) | Sep 25 15:34 |
| Will__ | wallclimber: You might want to let them know about the potential problems with the 360. Overheating/Red Ring of Death, scratching discs, etc. If he still wants one after hearing about that, he should get it. As long as he goes in with eyes open. | Sep 25 15:34 |
| schestowitz | 54% error ratew | Sep 25 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Some say more, some say elss | Sep 25 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Ten times that of Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! | Sep 25 15:35 |
| wallclimber | Will, he's only 8, so his mom and dad will likley make the decision for him (I intend that they be fully informed :) | Sep 25 15:35 |
| wallclimber | thanks for the info! | Sep 25 15:36 |
| Will__ | The games library for the Xbox 360 is good, but at the same time, probably 70-80% of it's games are also on the PS3 | Sep 25 15:36 |
| schestowitz | http://gizmonaut.net/bits/suspect.html | Sep 25 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'm on the line with XBOX support | Sep 25 15:36 |
| schestowitz | so soort | Sep 25 15:37 |
| schestowitz | so poort | Sep 25 15:37 |
| wallclimber | gaming consoles sound like money pits (sheesh, i'm SUCH a grandma) | Sep 25 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Xbox Live Cancels Year-Long Prepaid Account, Demands Another Year's | Sep 25 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Subscription To Reactivate | Sep 25 15:38 |
| schestowitz | http://consumerist.com/5184516/xbox-live-cancels-year+long-prepaid-account-demands-another-years-subscription-to-reactivate | Sep 25 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Wants You to Pay for E74 Repairs on Xbox 360s over a year old http://blog.seattlepi.com/digitaljoystick/archives/164950.asp?from=blog_last3 | Sep 25 15:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailytech.com/New+Xbox+360+Hardware+Failures+Being+Reported+in+Significant+Numbers/article14662.htmNew Xbox 360 Hardware Failures Being Reported in Significant Numbers | Sep 25 15:38 |
| Will__ | wallclimber: I may be unusual in this, but I've started to just wait a few years on everything. Get things 3-4 years after they come out at bargain bin prices. Between work and a backlog of other things to do, it works out well for me. | Sep 25 15:39 |
| wallclimber | that sounds like good advice. | Sep 25 15:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.rexblog.com/2009/09/25/19998 That Strange Light you’re seeing is the future of magazines | Sep 25 15:42 |
| Will__ | It's not for the impatent, but you save a lot of money. No since buying a game a full price when you know you won't get around to it for a year, after which time you might find it for half price. | Sep 25 15:42 |
| Will__ | need to stop making typos | Sep 25 15:42 |
| schestowitz | It's IRC, typos happen all the time | Sep 25 15:43 |
| wallclimber | meh...typos make conversations more interesting... :) | Sep 25 15:44 |
| schestowitz | As lnog as yuo keep teh fisrt and lsat lettres the smae, tehn it shuold be aesy to raed | Sep 25 15:44 |
| wallclimber | that only works if you're not dyslexic | Sep 25 15:45 |
| wallclimber | :) | Sep 25 15:45 |
| Will__ | wallclimber: but what if you're lysdexic? | Sep 25 15:45 |
| wallclimber | I am, you cad! :D | Sep 25 15:46 |
| Will__ | ;) | Sep 25 15:46 |
| wallclimber | (wallc wishing she knew how to comment backwards) | Sep 25 15:46 |
| wallclimber | ok, it's off to work for me...bye for now :) | Sep 25 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | ?uʍop ǝpısdn | Sep 25 15:47 |
| schestowitz | ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ | Sep 25 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm on with XBOX support | Sep 25 15:49 |
| schestowitz | ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ | Sep 25 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Oops. | Sep 25 15:49 |
| MinceR | :D | Sep 25 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Wrong paste | Sep 25 15:49 |
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| trmanco | it's using curl to fetch the urls now | Sep 25 15:50 |
| schestowitz | I tried to paste server load in BN | Sep 25 15:50 |
| schestowitz | from the terminal | Sep 25 15:50 |
| trmanco | it has a Firefox 3.5.3 and Linux user agent strings | Sep 25 15:50 |
| schestowitz | I never used curl, just wget | Sep 25 15:50 |
| MinceR | does it care about robots.txt? | Sep 25 15:50 |
| schestowitz | which one is gnu's | Sep 25 15:50 |
| trmanco | MinceR: I don't think so | Sep 25 15:50 |
| MinceR | (imo it shouldn't, because it isn't recursive, but last time it seemed to) | Sep 25 15:51 |
| schestowitz | wget has a flag like bots=off | Sep 25 15:51 |
| schestowitz | It can ignore them | Sep 25 15:51 |
| trmanco | for it to care, it has to parse it | Sep 25 15:51 |
| trmanco | brb | Sep 25 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | sending me a coffin | Sep 25 15:52 |
| trmanco | I still have to figure out how to connect to ptnet | Sep 25 15:52 |
| trmanco | they seem to not be following the standard | Sep 25 15:52 |
| Will__ | DaemonFC: so far that's the only good use for Microsoft stores I can see: convenient Xbox dropoff locations. | Sep 25 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | I got them to authorize the repair | Sep 25 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | Will__, Agreed | Sep 25 15:53 |
| MinceR | but why do you have xboxes to drop off in the first place? | Sep 25 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I have an XBOX and an XBOX 360 | Sep 25 15:54 |
| MinceR | my sympathies. | Sep 25 15:54 |
| schestowitz | He wants to work for a Microsoft Store, selling people these things with a straight face | Sep 25 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Watch the buyers' faces closely as you might never see them again after they get that XBox... or maybe the repair people will see them, if the house did not burn down | Sep 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | [with the XBox] | Sep 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | XBoxes 360 burn.... with a house and family 'around' them | Sep 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | That's why it's called 360 | Sep 25 15:57 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: I once met someone a couple of months ago with a launch 360 that still works. They exist, but they are are exceedingly rare. | Sep 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | It annihilates every thing ( degree) around it | Sep 25 15:57 |
| MinceR | "it's called 360 because when you see one you turn 360 degrees and moonwalk away" | Sep 25 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Huh? | Sep 25 15:58 |
| Will__ | schestowitz: That was terrible, but wasn't that only one time. Not to make light of what happened, but... I mean laptop batteries have done that, other things like that have happened. | Sep 25 15:58 |
| schestowitz | 180 | Sep 25 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Moonwalk | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 25 15:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Why spin? | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Just Moonwalk away | Sep 25 15:59 |
| Will__ | ipods have done that too | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't MJ have a UISPTO patent on this too? | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Like his anti-gravity illusion patent? | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | I thought they were too retarded to moonwalk | Sep 25 15:59 |
| schestowitz | I mean, they bought XBox *choke* | Sep 25 16:00 |
| MinceR | moar info at >> (nsfw) http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Xbox_360 | Sep 25 16:00 |
| phIRCe | Title: Xbox 360 - Encyclopedia Dramatica .::. Size~: 77.44 KB | Sep 25 16:00 |
| Will__ | It's not like every 360 is a deathtrap. Most might fail, but they won't all kill the buyer. | Sep 25 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I've been a retail manager before where all we had in the line of computers available was Windows | Sep 25 16:00 |
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| Will__ | But as to the name, I thought I heard back when they first came out that MS didn't want to call it the "Xbox 2" since Sony had the Playstation 3, so they wanted to have "3" in the title to make the two systems somehow equivalent in people's minds. ... As if the marketing name makes that much of a difference either way. | Sep 25 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | they've done it before | Sep 25 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | there was no Windows NT 1.0 | Sep 25 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | they started at 3.1 | Sep 25 16:05 |
| Will__ | There was also no Office 13, iirc. | Sep 25 16:06 |
| Will__ | They skipped from 12 to 14 | Sep 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Sep 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Dramatise | Sep 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz | No Office 2009 | Sep 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Cause you have to leap with numbers | Sep 25 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | reminds me of Netscape skipping from version 4 to 6 | Sep 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Thinking it's a future product | Sep 25 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | because they didn't want to look like they were behind MSIE | Sep 25 16:06 |
| MinceR | then there's winamp 3->5 | Sep 25 16:06 |
| schestowitz | 9.10 should be renamed Ubuntu 2010 | Sep 25 16:06 |
| MinceR | that's ubuntu 2009-10, actually :> | Sep 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Firefox 3.1->3.5 | Sep 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Firefox 3.7 | Sep 25 16:07 |
| Will__ | I'm not even sure the Firefox 3.1--> 3.5 jump made sense. | Sep 25 16:07 |
| Will__ | beat me to it | Sep 25 16:07 |
| MinceR | marketroids have way too much say in things nowadays | Sep 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Will__: raises expectations wrt features | Sep 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz | Marketing thjing | Sep 25 16:07 |
| schestowitz | If Linux 3.0 was released people would feel better about it than 2.6.33 | Sep 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Marketing thing | Sep 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | People think in number increments | Sep 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 has xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx of new features | Sep 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Vista cost $99999999999999999999999999 to make | Sep 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Wow! | Sep 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Just wow! | Sep 25 16:08 |
| schestowitz | Show me the wow! | Sep 25 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | KDE also claims thousands of new features in every release | Sep 25 16:08 |
| Will__ | poeple that are mostly immune to marketing tricks just don't understand how marketers think... or how marketers think other people think. | Sep 25 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think they must be counting them like Apple does | Sep 25 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Wait until Microsoft brags about how many parties it BOUHT | Sep 25 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | you may notice five of those | Sep 25 16:09 |
| schestowitz | *BOUHT | Sep 25 16:09 |
| schestowitz | *BOUGH | Sep 25 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Argh | Sep 25 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Sep 25 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | I heard Ogg Vorbis ran into a wall wrt patents | Sep 25 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | they want to implement a more efficient block switching algorithm but can't because it would violate an MPEG-4 AAC patent | Sep 25 16:11 |
| Will__ | Re: KDE: Next time the devs themselves say "our x.0 = alpha release--not fit for public consumption"... please listen people. | Sep 25 16:11 |
| MinceR | please listen distributors :> | Sep 25 16:11 |
| Will__ | I still haven't tried KD4. I'll start with 4.3 or 4.4. I want them to have time to make it good before I evaluate it. | Sep 25 16:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | dont worry, Will__. it'll always suck | Sep 25 16:12 |
| schestowitz | brb | Sep 25 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I just want them to fix my 360 because I already have it | Sep 25 16:13 |
| Will__ | KDE 3.5 was my first Linux DE. It rocked at the time. | Sep 25 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't buy another one with this track record | Sep 25 16:13 |
| Will__ | DaemonFC -- PS3 for same price now. | Sep 25 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, notice I said "I already have the 360" | Sep 25 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | 95% of the games run on both of them | Sep 25 16:14 |
| Will__ | Right. but what bothers me is that eventually the warranties and free replacements run out. | Sep 25 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | there's a few exclusives, but it's really just two of the same thing with regards to software support | Sep 25 16:14 |
| Will__ | One day the production will run out | Sep 25 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Will__, Nope | Sep 25 16:14 |
| Will__ | huh? | Sep 25 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | MS increased the warranty for 3 red rings to 3 years | Sep 25 16:14 |
| Will__ | I thought it was 3 years max | Sep 25 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Sep 25 16:14 |
| Will__ | from date of first purchase? | Sep 25 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | if the system breaks and they replace it, the replacement has the 1 year std warranty and 3 years red ring of death warranty start over | Sep 25 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | from day 1 | Sep 25 16:15 |
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| Will__ | ok. salesperson told me different one time. | Sep 25 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | he's wrong | Sep 25 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | I bought my first system on launch | Sep 25 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | in November 2005 | Sep 25 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | and they just authorized another replacement :P | Sep 25 16:16 |
| Will__ | but even so, MS isn't going to keep making 360s forever, right? Eventually, some will break down with no way to replace them. | Sep 25 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | this will be unit 7, but apparently they fixed the issue this time | Sep 25 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | we'll find out I guess | Sep 25 16:16 |
| Will__ | and MS hasn't been the best about backwards compat. Neither is Sony anymore | Sep 25 16:16 |
| Will__ | and the Wii's backwards compatibility was just a happy coincidence of its design. | Sep 25 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | Will__, The backwards compatibility updates thus far cover about ~90% of XBOX titles | Sep 25 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | if not more | Sep 25 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | it all has to be software emulation obviously cause the XBOX was basically an x86 PC | Sep 25 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | the 360 is PowerPC | Sep 25 16:18 |
| Will__ | Still, I've heard of glitches here and there. Case in point: Fable 1. How well does that run? I've heard it has sound glitches and random freezes. | Sep 25 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | I would like to see Ogg Vorbis support happen but that won't ever happen | Sep 25 16:18 |
| Will__ | and that's a big Xbox 1 title | Sep 25 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | they did at least add MPEG-4 AAC | Sep 25 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | they spent years ignoring AAC in the hope that WMA would catch on | Sep 25 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Media Player 12 supports AAC though, and Explorer can edit the tags | Sep 25 16:19 |
| Will__ | They spend years ignoring lots of things in hopes that their version catches on. When it doesn't, they have to scramble to play catchup with everyone else. | Sep 25 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | WMP 12 now supports H.264, DivX, and AAC audio | Sep 25 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | still has the same bugs when playing Vorbis/FLAC through the Xiph.org codecs | Sep 25 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | they play, but it files them all under "Unknown Artist/Unknown Album" in the library | Sep 25 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | the best thing you can do with Windows Media Player is ignore it | Sep 25 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | I do always use H.264 to encode stuff for my portable though | Sep 25 16:22 |
| Will__ | DaemonFC: you know what sort of surprises me and sort of doesn't? OSX is a lot worse than you'd think about handling video files. Exotic formats anyway. Linux is much better for that. Yet Mac brands itself as the multimedia king. | Sep 25 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | just because it's the best at low to mid bitrates | Sep 25 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | Will__, Apple software supports Apple-backed formats first and foremost | Sep 25 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | you could always get VLC though B-) | Sep 25 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | my mom's neighbor is actually using WMA cause that's what Windows Media Player rips to | Sep 25 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | so there are people out there that don't know any better | Sep 25 16:24 |
| Will__ | the power of bundling. No choice is a choice (for Microsoft) | Sep 25 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | WMA 10 Pro isn't bad quality wise, but nothing plays it except Zune | Sep 25 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | and Vorbis sounds better to me | Sep 25 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | WMA 10 Pro is a different codec with the same extension | Sep 25 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | not related to WMA "Standard" in any way | Sep 25 16:25 |
| Will__ | well, gotta go | Sep 25 16:26 |
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| DaemonFC | Microsoft was hoping to get it good enough to use on HD-DVD | Sep 25 16:26 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It would be nice if Firefox made some progress on ACID 3 | Sep 25 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | they've pretty much stalled out since Firefox 3.0 | Sep 25 16:29 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What's with the bot? :) | Sep 25 16:39 |
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| trmanco | meh | Sep 25 16:46 |
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| trmanco | :) | Sep 25 16:50 |
| trmanco | http://bit.ly/1i2TMD | Sep 25 16:51 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | Sep 25 17:25 |
| Omar87 | So, what exactly is that nonsense all about? http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,2343.0.html | Sep 25 17:26 |
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| Omar87 | I read the two IRC logs they mentioned but totally failed to see exactly where _goblin said anything about Microsoft or Windows being better than anything. | Sep 25 17:30 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: ignore them | Sep 25 17:34 |
| schestowitz | It's a troll site run by a few people who jerk each other off | Sep 25 17:34 |
| schestowitz | An anti-Linux site. Don't link to it | Sep 25 17:34 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Yeah, I know, of course. But I was just wondering, where exactly is the point that they are trying to show? 0_o | Sep 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz | I don't know. I never touch that site/server | Sep 25 17:42 |
| schestowitz | It's also a waste of time, distraction | Sep 25 17:43 |
| schestowitz | They sometime come here to disrupt IRC | Sep 25 17:43 |
| schestowitz | *sometimes | Sep 25 17:43 |
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| Omar87 | I couldn't keep my mouth shut, I posted a comment on their FSDaily entry, you are welcome to read it if you like. | Sep 25 17:46 |
| _goblin | hi all.... | Sep 25 17:48 |
| _goblin | I see linsux has been posting to its one reader... | Sep 25 17:48 |
| Omar87 | _goblin: Read the comment I made under their new FSDaily post. | Sep 25 17:49 |
| _goblin | They said "BN Member Implies that Windows is better since it has more users " | Sep 25 17:49 |
| _goblin | yet I said "How does it feel that you mock Boycott Novell, yet its chat and website are far more popular than yours...." | Sep 25 17:49 |
| Omar87 | LOL :D | Sep 25 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: oh, let's see.. | Sep 25 17:49 |
| Omar87 | Okay, guys, I'll chat with you later. I need to run now. | Sep 25 17:49 |
| _goblin | I can't really see how that implies anything about Windows but I've established that Linsux doesnt appeal to anyone.... | Sep 25 17:49 |
| _goblin | bye | Sep 25 17:49 |
| Omar87 | okay bye. | Sep 25 17:50 |
| schestowitz | cya | Sep 25 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Unimpressionable gits in linxxxxx. They take pleasure in being mentioned, I bet | Sep 25 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Better not to feed or mention them at all. It only encourages them | Sep 25 17:51 |
| _goblin | yes...Ive yet to see them explain how my comment implies Windows is better. | Sep 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, I ought to make some posts now | Sep 25 17:51 |
| _goblin | 1 had one referal from their "site" | Sep 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | Some important subjects today and Microsoft AstroTurf exposed | Sep 25 17:51 |
| _goblin | look forward to it. | Sep 25 17:51 |
| schestowitz | I guess it shows how many people think Linux sucks | Sep 25 17:52 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: what's witht he FTC thingie? | Sep 25 17:52 |
| _goblin | its been submitted... | Sep 25 17:52 |
| _goblin | although not via the route you took... | Sep 25 17:52 |
| _goblin | I wish you would condone private chat...... | Sep 25 17:53 |
| _goblin | I can't tell you here. | Sep 25 17:53 |
| _goblin | suffice to say....there was more than a coincidence that Andre Da Costa linked to my site on the day I announced it.... | Sep 25 17:53 |
| _goblin | A windows advocate linking to Openbytes.....yep..I knew I had hit on target when that happened.... | Sep 25 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | Brilliant talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrpPPV_yPY&feature=related | Sep 25 18:24 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, wallclimber | Sep 25 18:30 |
| wallclimber | Hey! | Sep 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz | How do you think we can organise the many exhibits in the Wiki that have partial text? | Sep 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz | The index pages serve one-liners | Sep 25 18:31 |
| wallclimber | I just shut down for the day and sent everyone home...lol...is it just me or does it seem like everyone has taken a cranky-pill today? | Sep 25 18:31 |
| schestowitz | And they're old | Sep 25 18:31 |
| wallclimber | i can fully text the partial texts...if you want. | Sep 25 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I think DaemonFC takes those :-p | Sep 25 18:32 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: I'm not sure how we can deliver it bst | Sep 25 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Since these are not news | Sep 25 18:32 |
| wallclimber | "old" as in not relevant anymore, or old as in needs some housekeeping and cleanup? | Sep 25 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Old in an needing a connection to present | Sep 25 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Like Yahoo/Apple employee poaching | Sep 25 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Or Myhrvold becomging a troll | Sep 25 18:33 |
| wallclimber | I see...so they need to be organized. | Sep 25 18:33 |
| wallclimber | btw, Daemon IS a cranky pill :) | Sep 25 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Soluble in water | Sep 25 18:33 |
| wallclimber | (sorry Daemon, if you're here...) | Sep 25 18:33 |
| wallclimber | water soluble? like the wicked witch in Oz? | Sep 25 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/09/texas_instrumen.html | Sep 25 18:34 |
| phIRCe | Title: Schneier on Security: Texas Instruments Signing Keys Broken .::. Size~: 28.86 KB | Sep 25 18:34 |
| wallclimber | ok, it's not fair to pick on Daemon when he's not here, so i'll be nice. | Sep 25 18:34 |
| *cubezzz2 is now known as cubezzz | Sep 25 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | I've just posted some news: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/09/25/irex-uses-linux/ | Sep 25 18:35 |
| phIRCe | Title: Links 25/09/2009: SystemTap 1.0 is Released, Irex Uses Linux | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 121.49 KB | Sep 25 18:35 |
| schestowitz | I've come to realise how Microsoft belittles itself by having its bosses hanging around in twitter 'twittin' and trying to engage with people as their business burns down | Sep 25 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's bad financial results are a month away | Sep 25 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gT-Kwm3eHQPp5qw5B5yzpuy07XuwD9AUFIGO3 | Sep 25 18:36 |
| phIRCe | Title: The Associated Press: NYC terror attack apparently was set for Sept. 11 .::. Size~: 17.57 KB | Sep 25 18:36 |
| schestowitz | But they'll be writing about parties and ponies ans tuff | Sep 25 18:36 |
| schestowitz | *and stuff | Sep 25 18:36 |
| schestowitz | To change the subvect, then announce Vista 7 | Sep 25 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Strategic dating | Sep 25 18:37 |
| wallclimber | have you noticed how many microsoft posts are on slashdot these days? | Sep 25 18:37 |
| wallclimber | "Couriour", and Win7 boots in 7 seconds, yada yada yada... | Sep 25 18:37 |
| wallclimber | "Courier" | Sep 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: his name was"Zazi" | Sep 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz | You probably know what I'm thinking | Sep 25 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | uhhm, no | Sep 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: I haven't read /. in years | Sep 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz | And yes, it's said to be hijacked on those who 'dressed themselves up' in it | Sep 25 18:38 |
| wallclimber | well, when i have mod points i like to use them lol | Sep 25 18:38 |
| schestowitz | I have "excellent" karma there | Sep 25 18:39 |
| wallclimber | it's funny, i used to learn a lot reading slashdot. i read it for the first time on sept 11 2001, it was the best place for news that day. | Sep 25 18:40 |
| schestowitz | The golden days of Digg are sorely missed | Sep 25 18:41 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2008/02/17/2006-digg-golden-days/ | Sep 25 18:41 |
| phIRCe | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » 2006: The Year That Digg Was a Technology Site .::. Size~: 34.96 KB | Sep 25 18:41 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2007/11/30/digg-hacked-by-spam/ | Sep 25 18:42 |
| phIRCe | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Has Digg Been ‘Hacked’ by Phrama SPAM? .::. Size~: 28.04 KB | Sep 25 18:42 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/11/08/digg-changes/ | Sep 25 18:42 |
| phIRCe | Title: schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Digg Changes Algorithm .::. Size~: 28.11 KB | Sep 25 18:42 |
| wallclimber | i dunno...if digg bellied up tomorrow i'd probably not notice. i only go there when i'm in the mood to be sarcastic. | Sep 25 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is still fun | Sep 25 18:43 |
| schestowitz | It's harder to be trolled there by shills | Sep 25 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Or abused | Sep 25 18:43 |
| wallclimber | i enjoy the science stuff on slashdot mostly, and i always enjoy groklaw...and BN of course :) | Sep 25 18:43 |
| wallclimber | i hate to say this, but i don't *get* twitter at all. | Sep 25 18:43 |
| wallclimber | i finally got nagged into doing facebook, and i hate it...i truly do. | Sep 25 18:44 |
| wallclimber | (hey, wait...maybe I'M the one that took the cranky-pill this morning! | Sep 25 18:45 |
| wallclimber | ) | Sep 25 18:45 |
| wallclimber | That phIRCe thing cracks me up... | Sep 25 18:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/09/eliminating_the.html | Sep 25 18:45 |
| phIRCe | Title: Schneier on Security: Eliminating Externalities in Financial Security .::. Size~: 71.79 KB | Sep 25 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Very good one | Sep 25 18:45 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: I have facebook | Sep 25 18:46 |
| trmanco | wallclimber: but in a good way? | Sep 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | It's like IBM culture, too | Sep 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | *IM | Sep 25 18:46 |
| wallclimber | trmanco, yes, in a mostly good way :) | Sep 25 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Kids love it too, for exchanging loz and fotoz! | Sep 25 18:46 |
| trmanco | :) | Sep 25 18:46 |
| wallclimber | you're on facebook? | Sep 25 18:47 |
| wallclimber | i'll look for you | Sep 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | There are many wall climbers | Sep 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | I climb walls well | Sep 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Havn't done it in years though | Sep 25 18:47 |
| wallclimber | oh, i'm not wallclimber over there... | Sep 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | I demoralised the regulars | Sep 25 18:48 |
| wallclimber | i'll be climbing another wall starting next week...have another mural to do | Sep 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | They said so | Sep 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: Gerorge Bush mural? | Sep 25 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I bet it takes patience to do the nostrils and all | Sep 25 18:49 |
| wallclimber | george bush's nostrils??? OMG! I'd charge wayyy to much to do that | Sep 25 18:49 |
| *sebsebseb (n=sebastia@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #boycottnovell | Sep 25 18:50 | |
| sebsebseb | hi | Sep 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Urgh.... Mobilizy Proposes Open, Cross-Platform Markup Language for Augmented Reality < http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/arml.php > | Sep 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: in Bristol I think they now consider legalising grafitti | Sep 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | They poll people, IIRC | Sep 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: what's up? | Sep 25 18:51 |
| wallclimber | they should legalize it...it's art... | Sep 25 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nm | Sep 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | War on grafitti is like the 'War' on drugs | Sep 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Brazil and another SA country have just followed Holland's footsteps and called off this 'war' | Sep 25 18:51 |
| wallclimber | Bankse rocks | Sep 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: yes, but in public arenas | Sep 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I say, as long as the artists son't suck, go for it | Sep 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | They get a change to sel-express | Sep 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | *self | Sep 25 18:52 |
| wallclimber | he does gallery stuff sometimes | Sep 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Never heard of him | Sep 25 18:52 |
| wallclimber | i can't find you on facebook...no Roy schestowitzes | Sep 25 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like a bankster[sic] | Sep 25 18:53 |
| wallclimber | sorry i spelled Banksy wrong... | Sep 25 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Oh. | Sep 25 18:53 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy | Sep 25 18:54 |
| phIRCe | Title: Banksy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 160.76 KB | Sep 25 18:54 |
| wallclimber | yes...he's great | Sep 25 18:54 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Banksy-ps.jpg | Sep 25 18:54 |
| phIRCe | Title: Not a web page! Aborting... .::. Size~: Too big! | Sep 25 18:54 |
| schestowitz | A little pervy, no? | Sep 25 18:54 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 25 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Just pulling a leg here...... | Sep 25 18:54 |
| wallclimber | i don't know, i guess he's just got a slightly bent sense of humour...most artists do | Sep 25 18:55 |
| wallclimber | :) | Sep 25 18:55 |
| schestowitz | £6 broadband tax to be made law before election, minister says http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/sep/23/broadband-tax-election | Sep 25 18:56 |
| schestowitz | We all 'chip in' to 'help' the Net. It feels like 'copyright' tax | Sep 25 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Dust storm blankets Sydney as drought bites http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/9/23/worldupdates/2009-09-23T140940Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_-426400-2&sec=Worldupdates | Sep 25 18:57 |
| phIRCe | Title: Dust storm blankets Sydney as drought bites .::. Size~: 38.42 KB | Sep 25 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Nokia is grabbing hold of everything right now as the monopoly it had wanes...... Nokia To Acquire UK Startup Dopplr http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/23/nokia-to-acqure-uk-startup-dopplr/ | Sep 25 18:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: Nokia To Acquire UK Startup Dopplr .::. Size~: 83.43 KB | Sep 25 18:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cio.com/article/503020/Study_Shows_Open_Source_Code_Quality_Improving?source=rss_open_source | Sep 25 18:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: Study Shows Open-Source Code Quality Improving - CIO.com - Business Technology Leadership .::. Size~: 70.09 KB | Sep 25 19:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2009/09/23/the-dark-side-of-political-discourse-on-the-internet/ | Sep 25 19:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] the ultimate charity! http://makehypocrisyhistory.org/ | Sep 25 19:01 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Make hipocrisy history dot org .::. Size~: 10.15 KB | Sep 25 19:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody UN Conference Pushes Plant Breeding - http://bit.ly/3WRUEK new plant varieties: what could possibly go wrong? #plants | Sep 25 19:02 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Intellectual Property Watch » Blog Archive » UN Conference Pushes Plant Breeding; Others See Food Security In Jeopardy .::. Size~: 45.54 KB | Sep 25 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Check out this photo: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/reader-photo-gallery-crazy-dust-storm-turns-sydney-red/ | Sep 25 19:03 |
| phIRCe | Title: Reader Photo Gallery: Crazy Dust Storm Turns Sydney Red | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 85.91 KB | Sep 25 19:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/22/AR2009092204295.html | Sep 25 19:04 |
| phIRCe | Title: Obama to Set Higher Bar for Keeping State Secrets - washingtonpost.com .::. Size~: 95.05 KB | Sep 25 19:04 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: good news... ? http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/44065/181/ | Sep 25 19:04 |
| wallclimber | I don't know, it'll probably be too late for me. Honestly, immortality is probably over-rated. | Sep 25 19:05 |
| schestowitz | "He said that within 25 years we will be able to do an Olympic sprint for 15 minutes without taking a breath, or go scuba-diving for four hours without oxygen. This will be handy because with global warming you will not be able to breathe the air. " | Sep 25 19:05 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: there are those who speak of how agoinising it would be | Sep 25 19:05 |
| schestowitz | E.g. not be able to afford it to the kids and grandkids and then seeing them go away | Sep 25 19:06 |
| schestowitz | It's just a human fantasy really | Sep 25 19:06 |
| schestowitz | People see themselves as central, protected by Big Man who looks like them, and lliving in spirit and brain forever and ever | Sep 25 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Maybe RayK spoke for himself... wishful speaking? | Sep 25 19:07 |
| wallclimber | i used to wonder how old people could be so calm about getting old, but i understand it better now. it ain't for sissies, that's for sure, but it also has it's benefits. | Sep 25 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I don't know. But I don't think it's too beneficial | Sep 25 19:07 |
| schestowitz | The continuation serves its purpose | Sep 25 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Improvement through heredit and memory | Sep 25 19:07 |
| schestowitz | As in studying | Sep 25 19:07 |
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| wallclimber | i know...that's what i used to think too, but believe it or not, it does. | Sep 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber: we're lucky just to be born, so.. | Sep 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | And we're tiny tiny dots in a dot that's just a dot in a universe | Sep 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | So it's not the "End of the WOrld" | Sep 25 19:08 |
| wallclimber | i think that's the truth, but also, when you're older you begin to make each day count for something, and appreciate what you have, more. | Sep 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Yes, that's what I hear | Sep 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I have friends in their 70s | Sep 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | As long as their DNA did its thing, they're happy | Sep 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Others tend to be more bitter | Sep 25 19:10 |
| wallclimber | it's also easier to stay calm when the world seems to be going crazy...it just does that periodically. after a few decades of those ups and downs you learn to take it all with a grain of salt. | Sep 25 19:10 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/4315983683 re Ray K: " didn't he say the same 20 years ago" | Sep 25 19:11 |
| phIRCe | Title: Twitter / Glyn Moody: Kurzweil: Humans will be i ... .::. Size~: 9.33 KB | Sep 25 19:11 |
| wallclimber | well, the old people that are bitter, were likely bitter all their lives. personalities become more pronounced when you're older. | Sep 25 19:11 |
| wallclimber | i'm not happy getting older, but like everything else i've had to face in life, it's just another challenge to rise up to meet... | Sep 25 19:13 |
| wallclimber | i think what saves me is that i have work that i'll probably be doing till the day i die. plus, i like downloading movies lol (just kidding!) | Sep 25 19:14 |
| wallclimber | also, i want to live to see the end of SCO...lol, guess i better take my vitamins! | Sep 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | http://torrentfreak.com/lily-allen-pirates-music-is-clueless-about-copyright-090923/ | Sep 25 19:16 |
| phIRCe | Title: Lily Allen Pirates Music, Is Clueless About Copyright | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 143.02 KB | Sep 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Sep 25 19:16 |
| wallclimber | ok, does phIRCe respond ro exclamation marks? | Sep 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | SCO? | Sep 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | They'll live | Sep 25 19:16 |
| wallclimber | !!!!!!! | Sep 25 19:16 |
| schestowitz | SOrry, I was just multi-tasking | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Use YouTube | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | It's legal there | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Lots of uploaded stuff from the studios | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | I've almost finished watching YouTUbe. :-) :-) | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Right after I download the Internet | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | For reasing offline, of course | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | *reading | Sep 25 19:17 |
| wallclimber | lol the phIRCe thing keeps popping up with a "you are not allowed to control me" text... | Sep 25 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Haha | Sep 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | I don't see that | Sep 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | ! | Sep 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | !! | Sep 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | !!!!!!! | Sep 25 19:18 |
| wallclimber | i'm trying to figure out what triggers it. | Sep 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't work for me | Sep 25 19:18 |
| wallclimber | it doesn't like me :( | Sep 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.euractiv.com/en/culture/unesco-director-general-push-linguistic-balance/article-185717 | Sep 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | it's a bot | Sep 25 19:19 |
| phIRCe | Title: EurActiv.com - UNESCO director-general: I'll push for linguistic balance | EU - European Information on Languages & Culture .::. Size~: 39.4 KB | Sep 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Ask trmanco to make it like you | Sep 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | It runs 'on the Cloud' | Sep 25 19:19 |
| wallclimber | no, i think it's funny... | Sep 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | "Wah! The cloud!!" | Sep 25 19:19 |
| schestowitz | It's somewhere out there, executing codes and stuff! | Sep 25 19:19 |
| wallclimber | I can hear Mick Jagger sing "Hey, You! Get offa my cloud!" | Sep 25 19:20 |
| wallclimber | lol, the phIRCe thing popped up again... | Sep 25 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/09/clay-shirky-let-a-thousand-flowers-bloom-to-replace-newspapers-dont-build-a-paywall-around-a-public-good/ | Sep 25 19:21 |
| phIRCe | Title: Clay Shirky: Let a thousand flowers bloom to replace newspapers; don’t build a paywall around a public good » Nieman Journalism Lab .::. Size~: 121.69 KB | Sep 25 19:21 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: do you get any sand clouds too? | Sep 25 19:21 |
| amarsh04 | not here (Adelaide) they went from central .au and headed east | Sep 25 19:22 |
| *amarsh04 is waiting for DSLAM to switch adsl profile | Sep 25 19:23 | |
| schestowitz | http://mobile.shanghaiist.com/2009/09/23/foreigners_banned_from_tibet_for_60.php | Sep 25 19:23 |
| phIRCe | Title: Foreigners banned from tibet for 60th Anniversary: Shanghaiist: News, Music, Nightlife, Restaurants, Events and More in Shanghai, China .::. Size~: 11.57 KB | Sep 25 19:23 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-google-chrome-frame-makes-ie-less-secure.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss | Sep 25 19:26 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft: Google Chrome Frame makes IE less secure - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 44.67 KB | Sep 25 19:26 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/4344893249 "Lily Allen drops fight to stop filesharing - http://bit.ly/48rrqD weak Guardian story - no mention of her hypocrisy #music #filesharing" | Sep 25 19:28 |
| phIRCe | Title: Twitter / Glyn Moody: Lily Allen drops fight to ... .::. Size~: 9.44 KB | Sep 25 19:28 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8274200.stm "British Airways passengers will have to pay to choose their seats before they travel from October, the airline says." | Sep 25 19:32 |
| phIRCe | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 85.84 KB | Sep 25 19:32 |
| *wallclimber has quit ("wallclimber's wandered off again...") | Sep 25 19:35 | |
| schestowitz | Windows 7 will not kick-start PC sales http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090924PD201.html | Sep 25 19:41 |
| trmanco | gee | Sep 25 19:42 |
| trmanco | another site blocking bots :| | Sep 25 19:42 |
| trmanco | I really don't know what else I can do :| | Sep 25 19:43 |
| trmanco | the url matches my regexp | Sep 25 19:45 |
| trmanco | it's another one blacklisting bots | Sep 25 19:45 |
| schestowitz | No big deal. | Sep 25 19:45 |
| trmanco | I thought adding a useragent and accepting cookies would make the bot work better but it didn't | Sep 25 19:46 |
| trmanco | I've also added a referrer | Sep 25 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Good news: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090924PD201.html | Sep 25 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 sales will stink | Sep 25 19:52 |
| schestowitz | twitter would be happy to know | Sep 25 19:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/39826?page=1 "Boycotting a company that makes some product is one thing, but you're talking about a huge FOSS community being condemned for the actions of one man." | Sep 25 19:57 |
| phIRCe | Title: Boycott Ubuntu | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 35.34 KB | Sep 25 19:57 |
| *Omar87 (n=omar@94.249.76.10.go.com.jo) has joined #boycottnovell | Sep 25 20:00 | |
| Omar87 | Hi | Sep 25 20:00 |
| Omar87 | I'm back | Sep 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/syn | Sep 25 20:00 |
| phIRCe | Title: Synthesizing Voice From the Command Line | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 42.58 KB | Sep 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Hey, Omar87 | Sep 25 20:00 |
| Omar87 | did you see it? | Sep 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Nope | Sep 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | It's not something we should feed | Sep 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Let's talk about something else | Sep 25 20:00 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Sep 25 20:01 |
| Omar87 | Just read it at least, lol. :P | Sep 25 20:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.raiden.net/articles/tutorial_setup_and_configuration_of_a_virtual_machine_in_virtual_box/ | Sep 25 20:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: Raiden's Realm: Tutorial: Setup and Configuration of a Virtual Machine in Virtual Box .::. Size~: 33.53 KB | Sep 25 20:02 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: what url? | Sep 25 20:02 |
| Omar87 | http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/Boycott_Novell_Member_Implies_that_Windows_is_better | Sep 25 20:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: Boycott Novell Member Implies that Windows is better | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 31.65 KB | Sep 25 20:03 |
| schestowitz | http://fsffrance.org/news/article2009-09-22.en.html | Sep 25 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: I see | Sep 25 20:07 |
| schestowitz | It's kind of sad that some people are so bored that they nitpick IRC sessions | Sep 25 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they could do something constructuive some day | Sep 25 20:08 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: See? So I really don't blame those pathetic Linsux idiots, but I blame those who vote up their nonsense. | Sep 25 20:09 |
| schestowitz | "And we wonder why there is confusion" | Sep 25 20:12 |
| schestowitz | http://johnsu01.livejournal.com/261551.html | Sep 25 20:12 |
| schestowitz | "@johnsu01 The misinformation seems to originate from dmoz.org: http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Issues/Intellectual_Property/Organizations/ !FSF" | Sep 25 20:12 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/10690150 | Sep 25 20:12 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: they vote it up themselves | Sep 25 20:12 |
| phIRCe | Title: johnsu01: And we wonder why there is confusion .::. Size~: 19.82 KB | Sep 25 20:12 |
| phIRCe | Title: Open Directory - Society: Issues: Intellectual Property: Organizations .::. Size~: 11.96 KB | Sep 25 20:12 |
| phIRCe | Title: Matthew Davidson (freemjd) 's status on Friday, 25-Sep-09 04:06:38 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.29 KB | Sep 25 20:12 |
| schestowitz | They have done this type of stuff for a while. Mass-buring BN staff and abusing in other way. Just ignore them | Sep 25 20:12 |
| schestowitz | FSDaily treats them as pests. | Sep 25 20:13 |
| *amarsh04 is trying to think of a gpl analogy. How about: "you can listen to this sound recording and make personal copies" but if you provide it to others, you must supply the score or an offer to supply the score. | Sep 25 20:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/22/climate-change-china-us-united-nations | Sep 25 20:18 |
| amarsh04 | or maybe even a .wav file representing the binary and a fully editable score and sound fonts as source code | Sep 25 20:18 |
| trmanco | !quit phIRCe | Sep 25 20:19 |
| trmanco | damn | Sep 25 20:19 |
| trmanco | I wonder when it's going to get a ping timeout | Sep 25 20:20 |
| trmanco | ... | Sep 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1116114.html | Sep 25 20:26 |
| schestowitz | RMS: "As the Israeli Army attacked civilians in Gaza, the police attacked civilians in Israel who tried to protest." http://www.stallman.org/archives/2009-jul-oct.html#24%20September%202009%20%28Israeli%20police%20squashed%20opposition%20to%20war%29 | Sep 25 20:26 |
| schestowitz | yeah, some 'democracy' | Sep 25 20:26 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8266699.stm | Sep 25 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Honduran troops barricade Manuel Zelaya in embassy < http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/23/honduras-manuel-zelaya-embassy > | Sep 25 20:28 |
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| trmanco | uh | Sep 25 20:29 |
| trmanco | finally | Sep 25 20:29 |
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| schestowitz | Savitz seems to be the original floater of the SUN FUD: http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/09/22/oracle-ellison-says-sun-losing-100mmonth-wont-spin-mysql-expects-eu-ok-sees-no-recovery-for-5-years/ | Sep 25 20:33 |
| phIRCe | Title: Oracle: Ellison Says Sun Losing $100M/Month; Won’t Spin MySQL; Expects EU OK; Sees No Economic Recovery For 5 Years - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com .::. Size~: 62.85 KB | Sep 25 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Savitz is a shill for Microsoft, has been for years | Sep 25 20:33 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Thanks for mentioning me in the Meguel Di Icaza article. :P | Sep 25 20:34 |
| amarsh04 | been rain and small hail here... colder than average for this time of year | Sep 25 20:38 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Nintendo Emulation w/ Linux! – All you need to know! (and a little more) http://tinyurl.com/yaro2ww #linux #foss #nintendo | Sep 25 21:00 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Nintendo Emulation w/ Linux! – All you need to know! (and a little more) « OPEN BYTES – cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 45.74 KB | Sep 25 21:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=114264 | Sep 25 21:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: MediaPost Publications Judge Orders Google To Deactivate User's Gmail Account 09/25/2009 .::. Size~: 72.2 KB | Sep 25 21:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/malware_ads_google_yahoo/ | Sep 25 21:11 |
| phIRCe | Title: Malware torrent delivered over Google, Yahoo! ad services • The Register .::. Size~: 25.02 KB | Sep 25 21:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.osnews.com/story/22225/RMS_De_Icaza_Traitor_to_Free_Software_Community | Sep 25 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | bam! | Sep 25 21:13 |
| phIRCe | Title: RMS: De Icaza Traitor to Free Software Community .::. Size~: 22.55 KB | Sep 25 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | "Stallman noted that Miguel de Icaza "is basically a traitor to the Free Software community"." | Sep 25 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | \o/ | Sep 25 21:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: read read read read read | Sep 25 21:13 |
| trmanco | any python people around here? | Sep 25 21:16 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/09/which-user-clicked-on-viagra-ads-ask-myspace-and-facebook.ars | Sep 25 21:19 |
| phIRCe | Title: Social networks make it easy for 3rd parties to identify you - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 45.88 KB | Sep 25 21:19 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: Thom is a Microsoft shiller | Sep 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | So I wouldn't expect much else | Sep 25 21:22 |
| schestowitz | He can carry on raving about Vista 7 and stuff and trying to push the real core of FS out | Sep 25 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Only expected | Sep 25 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Or was it the submitter's opinion? | Sep 25 21:23 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure | Sep 25 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Heh. De Icaza is a theist | Sep 25 21:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/census/ | Sep 25 21:24 |
| phIRCe | Title: Online Conspiracy Theorists Latch Onto Census GPS Units | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 100.81 KB | Sep 25 21:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: you missed the point | Sep 25 21:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | RMS finally told mono off | Sep 25 21:25 |
| schestowitz | I read it quickly | Sep 25 21:25 |
| schestowitz | No | Sep 25 21:25 |
| schestowitz | He did LONG ago | Sep 25 21:25 |
| schestowitz | years even | Sep 25 21:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | well its finally on paper | Sep 25 21:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mail-archive.com/foundation-list%40gnome.org/msg02681.html | Sep 25 21:25 |
| phIRCe | Title: Re: GNOME dependent on Mono .::. Size~: 8.25 KB | Sep 25 21:25 |
| schestowitz | EXCLUSIVE: CIA Experiments on U.S. Soldiers Linked to Torture Program http://pubrecord.org/torture/4607/research-torture-charges-human/ | Sep 25 21:27 |
| schestowitz | "Airlines are trying to forestall CO2 emissions regulations by proposing an ambitious-sounding program of reductions. The problem is, they won't actually reduce their emissions, just buy reductions from others." http://www.stallman.org/archives/2009-jul-oct.html#24%20September%202009%20%28Airlines%20will%20buy%20out%20of%20climate%20control%29 | Sep 25 21:28 |
| _goblin | What gets me is Icaza seems to be held (by some) as some free software divine being...I don't agree with RMS on many topics however the "playing catchup with MS technologies" that has been said by some is something which I have said for a long time...FOSS can stand on its own merits, I neither want nor aspire to run anything that comes out of Redmond, it is why I switched in the first place. | Sep 25 21:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | wait hold up | Sep 25 21:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | adam scheinberg owns osnews? | Sep 25 21:30 |
| trmanco | wow | Sep 25 21:31 |
| trmanco | http://noxbot.org/index.php/Main_Page | Sep 25 21:31 |
| phIRCe | Title: NoxBot the modular PHP IRC bot .::. Size~: 17.83 KB | Sep 25 21:31 |
| trmanco | this bot is really, really hardcore :| | Sep 25 21:31 |
| trmanco | it's huge | Sep 25 21:32 |
| Omar87 | trmanco: I'm looking for Python people too. | Sep 25 21:32 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: your Bot is bigger than his Bot | Sep 25 21:33 |
| trmanco | no it isn't | Sep 25 21:33 |
| trmanco | mine isn't even modular yet | Sep 25 21:33 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Sep 25 21:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=4321 | Sep 25 21:34 |
| phIRCe | Title: Two photos from my trip | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 47.33 KB | Sep 25 21:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3840826/Shuttleworth+Dont+Give+Up+the+Linux+Desktop.htm | Sep 25 21:36 |
| phIRCe | Title: Shuttleworth: Don't Give Up the Linux Desktop - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 147.58 KB | Sep 25 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Her. Omar87, look what I've just found: | Sep 25 21:37 |
| schestowitz | http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-24-2009/0005100676&EDATE= | Sep 25 21:37 |
| schestowitz | "Ubuntu Education Fund Commitment to Be Highlighted at CGI '09 by Queen Rania of Jordan" | Sep 25 21:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ubuntufund.org/ | Sep 25 21:38 |
| phIRCe | Title: Ubuntu Education Fund .::. Size~: 23.64 KB | Sep 25 21:38 |
| trmanco | ah huge url | Sep 25 21:38 |
| Omar87 | trmanco: Are you looking for Python ppl? | Sep 25 21:38 |
| Omar87 | trmanco: I am one. | Sep 25 21:39 |
| trmanco | it was just to decrypt a line of code | Sep 25 21:39 |
| schestowitz | Aw Gqws!! | Sep 25 21:39 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Final-Artwork-of-Ubuntu-9-10-122665.shtml | Sep 25 21:39 |
| phIRCe | Title: The Final Artwork of Ubuntu 9.10 - The Karmic Koala Chronicles - Softpedia .::. Size~: 55.44 KB | Sep 25 21:39 |
| Omar87 | trmanco: Though, I'm not an expert yet. I'm still learning. | Sep 25 21:39 |
| schestowitz | Why did they make it so ugly? | Sep 25 21:39 |
| trmanco | python looks easy | Sep 25 21:39 |
| schestowitz | I could suggest wallpapers to them :-p :-p | Sep 25 21:39 |
| schestowitz | We all could top *that* | Sep 25 21:39 |
| trmanco | I use to hate it's syntax, but I like it now | Sep 25 21:40 |
| trmanco | uhg | Sep 25 21:40 |
| Omar87 | trmanco: I love it's syntax. :) | Sep 25 21:40 |
| trmanco | prnews blocks bots too | Sep 25 21:40 |
| trmanco | it has no BRACKETS!!!!!!111!!!! | Sep 25 21:40 |
| phIRCe | Not a valid command! | Sep 25 21:40 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Oh.. my.. God! | Sep 25 21:41 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: I don't know what to say man. :) | Sep 25 21:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Recommended: "'The Age of Stupid': a wakeup call on climate" http://ping.fm/g6R6K | Sep 25 21:42 | |
| schestowitz | General urges Barack Obama to send more troops to Afghanistan http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/21/barack-obama-afghanistan-mcchrystal-report | Sep 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Watch the photo | Sep 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: they have designers. Maybe my taste is WAY off limits, but I just never found their default artwork to be on target. | Sep 25 21:43 |
| schestowitz | They are seen by many as 'the' Linux for the desktoo | Sep 25 21:43 |
| schestowitz | This is not the image of Linux that I want projected because it's not helping the cause | Sep 25 21:43 |
| schestowitz | KDE4 has nice looks. Plasma is nice, Air is good too | Sep 25 21:44 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Oh, actually that has nothing to do with Ubuntu Linux. | Sep 25 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Are we on the same topic? | Sep 25 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Did you say it on the same issue? | Sep 25 21:45 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: No. | Sep 25 21:45 |
| schestowitz | [21:42] <Omar87> schestowitz: I don't know what to say man. :) | Sep 25 21:45 |
| schestowitz | What's this referring to? | Sep 25 21:46 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: I was talking about about the Queen Rania post and Ubuntu commitee post. | Sep 25 21:46 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Rania_of_Jordan | Sep 25 21:47 |
| phIRCe | Title: Queen Rania of Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 60.58 KB | Sep 25 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I've never seen her before | Sep 25 21:47 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Yeah, that's our queen. | Sep 25 21:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/QueenRania | Sep 25 21:48 |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Canal de QueenRania .::. Size~: 67.83 KB | Sep 25 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Hangin' out with GWB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:King_Abdullah_II_%26_Queen_Rania_of_Jordan_in_WashingtonDC,_2007March06.jpg | Sep 25 21:48 |
| phIRCe | Title: File:King Abdullah II & Queen Rania of Jordan in WashingtonDC, 2007March06.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 25.33 KB | Sep 25 21:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: She had an interview at the Oprah Show a couple years back. | Sep 25 21:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6853/1/ | Sep 25 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: I'll try to find and watch it later, maybe in 2 hours | Sep 25 21:56 |
| schestowitz | If you have any good films you know of on YouTube, please tell me | Sep 25 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I'm always looking for stuff to watch, but I'm not sure what to look for | Sep 25 21:57 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Sure. | Sep 25 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Tyson's talks is the stuf I've watches lately | Sep 25 21:57 |
| schestowitz | I'm at the stage now where he becomes repeitive | Sep 25 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Happens no matter who you listen to... | Sep 25 21:57 |
| schestowitz | They repeat themselves... same analogies, even SAME JOKES.... in different talks, that's when it's time to move on | Sep 25 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Dawkins has become a little annoying | Sep 25 21:58 |
| schestowitz | And Chomsky is always on the same topics | Sep 25 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Then there's the 'fashionable' enteratainment industry fluff -- I skip that | Sep 25 21:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: G20: Financial crisis response "worked for us" http://notnews.today.com/?p=665 | Sep 25 22:00 | |
| phIRCe | Title: G20: Financial crisis response “worked for us” - News of the News .::. Size~: 32.2 KB | Sep 25 22:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28002/1090/ | Sep 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Page 1 of 2 | Sep 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | diggredditstumbleupon | Sep 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Open source consultant Kirrily Robert, who runs a blog called Geek Feminism, has taken Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth to task over words he allegedly used in a talk given at a conference. | Sep 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Featured Whitepaper | Sep 25 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Legacy Tools: Not For Today’s Helpdesk | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Shuttleworth was attending the LinuxCon, a conference of some 600 people, organised by the Linux Foundation in Portland, Oregon. | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Robert has written an open letter to Shuttleworth, pointing out that she "heard from multiple sources about your keynote, in which you referred to our work in Linux as being 'hard to explain to girls'." | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | She ends her letter with, "I'd like to invite you to think about the message you’re sending to women in the Linux community, and, if you didn’t mean to convey the message that we're technical illiterates and hard to educate, consider apologising publicly." | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | The letter has kicked off the usual firestorm of discussion; as I pointed out some days back what is emerging, as usually happens in cases like this, is a point-scoring exercise. | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Robert has not seen a video of the talk or listened to an audio but justifies her decision to send what I think is a highly patronising letter to Shuttleworth because "a number of people I trust were in the audience or watching it live (some of whom are bloggers here, or were on IRC or IM, and will probably comment), so let’s assume that their reactions are legitimate." | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | That's the best way to get a public figure to realise that he may have done something which was offensive - shout out loud and try to lecture him, before even examining the evidence. | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Hearsay is the best way to find out about it. It would stand up in any court of justice. | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | << First page < 1 2 Next page > Last page - Post your comment >> | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Oops. | Sep 25 22:04 |
| schestowitz | I pasted too much | Sep 25 22:04 |
| Omar87 | trmanco: Would you like to us hang out sometimes on Typepad for example? (Coding, Python, etc.) | Sep 25 22:07 |
| trmanco | Omar87: I don't understand | Sep 25 22:07 |
| Omar87 | trmanco: I meant, since you are looking for Python ppl, I am one of them | Sep 25 22:08 |
| Omar87 | If you like we can arrange a Typepad session to work/learn together. | Sep 25 22:08 |
| trmanco | it was just to translate a line of python code, but I did it myself | Sep 25 22:08 |
| Omar87 | Oh ok. | Sep 25 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loses touch with developers | Sep 25 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Maybe not in every country, but certaintly in places like RUssia for example | Sep 25 22:12 |
| schestowitz | More IT people are asked to know LAMP | Sep 25 22:12 |
| schestowitz | So synamics will hopefully chnage to include more 'Google types' like Python devs | Sep 25 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Google still works against AGPL | Sep 25 22:12 |
| schestowitz | More on the Shuttleworth incident: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/as-a-public-figure-use-a-public-approach-34374 | Sep 25 22:15 |
| schestowitz | "Even though I am not a public figure of the likes of Mark Shuttleworth, Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds or any world or business leader. I still take great pains when I write my articles to keep within the politically correct guidelines. I keep in mind that people throughout the world read what I write and I would like people to continue reading what I write :) " | Sep 25 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Linux Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Geek http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-wars.html | Sep 25 22:16 |
| schestowitz | More on the same | Sep 25 22:16 |
| schestowitz | I'm happy to see people defending Ubuntu | Sep 25 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Susan has always resented Ubuntu in a way | Sep 25 22:16 |
| schestowitz | No reason to..... | Sep 25 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Miguel plays victim. http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Sep-23.html | Sep 25 22:20 |
| phIRCe | Title: On Richard Stallman - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 13.08 KB | Sep 25 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Smart move from him, but his intent his ovbious. Make RMS look vicious. | Sep 25 22:20 |
| schestowitz | "Love, Miguel." | Sep 25 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww............. | Sep 25 22:20 |
| trmanco | I saw this yesterday | Sep 25 22:21 |
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| wispygalaxy | hey everyone! :) | Sep 25 22:25 |
| trmanco | hey wispygalaxy | Sep 25 22:25 |
| wispygalaxy | hi tony :D | Sep 25 22:25 |
| wispygalaxy | how are you today? | Sep 25 22:25 |
| trmanco | I'm great, and you? | Sep 25 22:26 |
| wispygalaxy | the weather is so nice here... i didn't want to go to class today haha | Sep 25 22:26 |
| _goblin | hi wispy! | Sep 25 22:26 |
| wispygalaxy | hello goblin :) | Sep 25 22:26 |
| wispygalaxy | i remember you from here and COLA | Sep 25 22:26 |
| trmanco | heh | Sep 25 22:27 |
| wispygalaxy | i like your blog, BTW, goblin | Sep 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Hey, wispygalaxy | Sep 25 22:27 |
| wispygalaxy | hi roy! | Sep 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Tony built a frankenbot | Sep 25 22:27 |
| wispygalaxy | how's BN? | Sep 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | And it's toally out of control | Sep 25 22:27 |
| schestowitz | It's not taking orders | Sep 25 22:27 |
| wispygalaxy | nice one, tony! :P | Sep 25 22:27 |
| _goblin | thanks wispy.....easy made though....anyone can do it. | Sep 25 22:28 |
| schestowitz | ANd it's kicking people who say all sorts of s* | Sep 25 22:28 |
| wispygalaxy | i'll make sure to stop by later, goblin :) | Sep 25 22:28 |
| wispygalaxy | oh is it phIRCe? | Sep 25 22:28 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I've been going through the Monty Pythoj channel in YouTube | Sep 25 22:28 |
| _goblin | good man! | Sep 25 22:28 |
| schestowitz | It's still too weird, but some of the classic skits are hilarious | Sep 25 22:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRkhJc2d_w&feature=PlayList&p=6165766AF2DFDCC5&index=0 | Sep 25 22:29 |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Why I Love Monty Python .::. Size~: 151.87 KB | Sep 25 22:29 |
| schestowitz | wispygalaxy: aye | Sep 25 22:29 |
| _goblin | hes not the messiah he's a very naughty boy..... | Sep 25 22:29 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna post some Linux news | Sep 25 22:29 |
| wispygalaxy | haha phIRCe is shouting at everyone | Sep 25 22:29 |
| wispygalaxy | he needs a time out | Sep 25 22:29 |
| _goblin | roy....check out the IT crowd if its on youtube..... | Sep 25 22:29 |
| wispygalaxy | linux news is good... i just was on COLA | Sep 25 22:29 |
| schestowitz | COLA is under control by advocates | Sep 25 22:30 |
| wispygalaxy | advocates FTW! | Sep 25 22:30 |
| schestowitz | It will be choas next month when Microsoft unleashes Vista 7 shills | Sep 25 22:30 |
| phIRCe | _goblin | Sep 25 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Anywaysss..... | Sep 25 22:30 |
| trmanco | meh | Sep 25 22:30 |
| _goblin | you starting phrice? | Sep 25 22:30 |
| phIRCe | _goblin Leave me alone | Sep 25 22:30 |
| _goblin | lol | Sep 25 22:30 |
| wispygalaxy | haha poor tony | Sep 25 22:30 |
| trmanco | lol | Sep 25 22:30 |
| trmanco | :( | Sep 25 22:30 |
| _goblin | phIRCe you are a traitor to open source.... | Sep 25 22:30 |
| wispygalaxy | leave goblin alone! | Sep 25 22:31 |
| wispygalaxy | lol | Sep 25 22:31 |
| phIRCe | _goblin What? I'm GPLv3... you must be talking about someone else... | Sep 25 22:31 |
| _goblin | has phrice started to achieve sentience? | Sep 25 22:31 |
| trmanco | _goblin: nah | Sep 25 22:32 |
| _goblin | maybe we'll have the birth of a skynet thanks to someones Python skills.... | Sep 25 22:32 |
| trmanco | not until I find a way to make some good AI | Sep 25 22:32 |
| trmanco | there is a python module | Sep 25 22:32 |
| trmanco | that stores it's stuff in a xml file | Sep 25 22:32 |
| trmanco | but I don't know if there is any in php | Sep 25 22:32 |
| wispygalaxy | i had to learn a little bit about XML for my accounting class. it was a simple explanation- no code involved | Sep 25 22:33 |
| trmanco | http://www.alicebot.org/aiml.html | Sep 25 22:33 |
| trmanco | xml is pretty easy | Sep 25 22:33 |
| trmanco | the worst part IMO is parsing them | Sep 25 22:33 |
| wispygalaxy | that's cool, good luck :) | Sep 25 22:33 |
| _goblin | trmanco....is phrice your baby? | Sep 25 22:33 |
| trmanco | _goblin: not really | Sep 25 22:33 |
| wispygalaxy | awww haha | Sep 25 22:34 |
| _goblin | ah.... | Sep 25 22:34 |
| trmanco | more like my creation | Sep 25 22:34 |
| trmanco | I'm it's god | Sep 25 22:34 |
| phIRCe | yep | Sep 25 22:34 |
| trmanco | :-P | Sep 25 22:34 |
| _goblin | a simple AI improvement could reek havok on a few chatrooms.....is the src available? | Sep 25 22:34 |
| trmanco | let me search | Sep 25 22:35 |
| trmanco | _goblin: I'm sure it is | Sep 25 22:35 |
| trmanco | it's GNU | Sep 25 22:35 |
| trmanco | :D | Sep 25 22:35 |
| trmanco | Unlike other commercial chat robot software costing thousands of dollars, the Alicebot engine and AIML are freely available under the terms of the GNU General Public License (used by GNU/Linux and thousands of other software projects). The A.L.I.C.E. project includes hundreds of contributors from around the world. | Sep 25 22:36 |
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| PhrkOnLsh | what is this channel about? | Sep 25 22:37 |
| _goblin | I wish I had more time (and an interest in Python).....at the moment Im learning the architecture of the DS. | Sep 25 22:37 |
| _goblin | Phrkonlsh : "Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software" | Sep 25 22:37 |
| trmanco | DS? | Sep 25 22:37 |
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| _goblin | Nintendo DS... | Sep 25 22:37 |
| trmanco | ahhh | Sep 25 22:38 |
| PhrkOnLsh | _goblin: but why the channel name, do you guys, like, not like Novell or something? | Sep 25 22:38 |
| trmanco | writing an emulator? | Sep 25 22:38 |
| _goblin | no, not specifically.....demoscene stuff. | Sep 25 22:38 |
| _goblin | I have an R5..... | Sep 25 22:38 |
| _goblin | so its great for dev. | Sep 25 22:38 |
| _goblin | Moonshell is really quite impressive on the R5 | Sep 25 22:39 |
| trmanco | Remark: Program J: AIML in C++ with IRC client | Sep 25 22:39 |
| trmanco | haha | Sep 25 22:39 |
| trmanco | Remark: AIML in PHP | Sep 25 22:39 |
| _goblin | phrkonlsh: Korn are awful IMO.... | Sep 25 22:39 |
| _goblin | phrkonlsh: I am a real metal fan! ;) | Sep 25 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Hey, PhrkOnLsh | Sep 25 22:40 |
| PhrkOnLsh | kay, that's only where half my nick came from. Novell are awful too, but you don't see my harassing the entire channel D: | Sep 25 22:40 |
| schestowitz | We mostly observe risks to FOSS | Sep 25 22:40 |
| _goblin | phrkonlsh: I think the only half decent track they ever did was "Shoots and ladders" | Sep 25 22:40 |
| schestowitz | We react by informing each other for the most past | Sep 25 22:40 |
| PhrkOnLsh | cool story, bro. | Sep 25 22:40 |
| schestowitz | *part | Sep 25 22:40 |
| PhrkOnLsh | schestowitz: like what? | Sep 25 22:40 |
| PhrkOnLsh | is that like linux programs and stuff? | Sep 25 22:41 |
| _goblin | phrkonlsh: what do you mean harassing the entire channel? | Sep 25 22:41 |
| PhrkOnLsh | brb, finding something to watch on TiVo | Sep 25 22:42 |
| _goblin | im sure. | Sep 25 22:42 |
| PhrkOnLsh | kay | Sep 25 22:42 |
| PhrkOnLsh | Magnum PI tiem | Sep 25 22:42 |
| PhrkOnLsh | _goblin: well, a name like boycott nocell is probably more controversial than phIRCe | Sep 25 22:42 |
| PhrkOnLsh | oops sorry phIRCe | Sep 25 22:42 |
| PhrkOnLsh | than PhrkOnLsh | Sep 25 22:42 |
| _goblin | I didnt mean it was an issue...I bet many people didnt even know about Korn.... | Sep 25 22:43 |
| PhrkOnLsh | oh | Sep 25 22:43 |
| PhrkOnLsh | schestowitz: doesn't Novell make linux stuff? | Sep 25 22:43 |
| _goblin | its only because Im a metal fan that I made that remark... | Sep 25 22:43 |
| PhrkOnLsh | oic. | Sep 25 22:43 |
| schestowitz | PhrkOnLsh: yes, some | Sep 25 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Novell is a large company | Sep 25 22:44 |
| _goblin | hang on..... | Sep 25 22:44 |
| schestowitz | Linux developrs are maybe less than 10% there. It depends how/what you count | Sep 25 22:44 |
| _goblin | Phrkonlsh: How can you say "Novell are awful too" yet not know what they do? | Sep 25 22:45 |
| PhrkOnLsh | I don't know enough about them, but I was under the impression they did lniux stuff | Sep 25 22:45 |
| PhrkOnLsh | linux* | Sep 25 22:45 |
| PhrkOnLsh | which is why I came in here, because it confused me D: | Sep 25 22:45 |
| _goblin | ahh | Sep 25 22:46 |
| _goblin | phrice : I think I love you. | Sep 25 22:48 |
| _goblin | not listening.... | Sep 25 22:48 |
| _goblin | oh well... | Sep 25 22:48 |
| phIRCe | yes I am _goblin | Sep 25 22:49 |
| PhrkOnLsh | hahaha, higgins is going to get knocked over by a skydiver. | Sep 25 22:49 |
| phIRCe | I'm always listening | Sep 25 22:49 |
| _goblin | lol... | Sep 25 22:50 |
| _goblin | phiRCe : I think I spelt your name wrong. | Sep 25 22:50 |
| PhrkOnLsh | you did it again. | Sep 25 22:51 |
| PhrkOnLsh | this place is boring, bye | Sep 25 22:51 |
| *PhrkOnLsh (n=rrix@fedora/PhrkOnLsh) has left #boycottnovell ("Konversation terminated!") | Sep 25 22:51 | |
| _goblin | lol | Sep 25 22:51 |
| _goblin | 2 new users in the space of 10 mins.... | Sep 25 22:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Strengths of Less Simplified Operating Systems http://bit.ly/7tvTj | Sep 25 22:52 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Welcome to LinuxInsider .::. Size~: 3.09 KB | Sep 25 22:52 |
| _goblin | and I can guess where they are coming from.... | Sep 25 22:52 |
| trmanco | hey | Sep 25 22:53 |
| trmanco | he was using konversation | Sep 25 22:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A View on #GNU #Linux #LAMP Wikis as Collaborative Editing Tools http://bit.ly/3P6n36 | Sep 25 22:53 | |
| _goblin | he's still on freenode aswell...hasnt joined another channel yet..... | Sep 25 22:53 |
| _goblin | lets see where he goes...... | Sep 25 22:54 |
| *wispygalaxy (i=9f5b975b@gateway/web/freenode/x-wajmgeaamipjmqwr) has joined #boycottnovell | Sep 25 22:54 | |
| trmanco | wb wispygalaxy | Sep 25 22:54 |
| wispygalaxy | hey tony | Sep 25 22:54 |
| wispygalaxy | was my chat box not working? | Sep 25 22:55 |
| wispygalaxy | i had to restart | Sep 25 22:55 |
| trmanco | you left | Sep 25 22:55 |
| wispygalaxy | i mean refresh | Sep 25 22:55 |
| wispygalaxy | ohhhh that's what that message was for | Sep 25 22:55 |
| wispygalaxy | i ignored it haha | Sep 25 22:55 |
| wispygalaxy | sorry about that lol | Sep 25 22:55 |
| wispygalaxy | (i got a popup saying that something timed out | Sep 25 22:56 |
| schestowitz | wispygalaxy: did you see the MarkS controversy? | Sep 25 22:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Strength of Controlling One's Kernel http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/6853/1/ | Sep 25 22:56 | |
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| trmanco | damn | Sep 25 22:56 |
| wispygalaxy | nope i haven't roy, but thanks! :D | Sep 25 22:56 |
| trmanco | another site? | Sep 25 22:56 |
| wispygalaxy | wait..... did phIRCe do something to me lol | Sep 25 22:57 |
| wispygalaxy | because i didnt see you guys typing anything for a while | Sep 25 22:57 |
| trmanco | no | Sep 25 22:57 |
| trmanco | phIRCe: is at a "no harm" mode | Sep 25 22:58 |
| wispygalaxy | haha | Sep 25 22:58 |
| wispygalaxy | just making sure ;) | Sep 25 22:58 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's deopped :> | Sep 25 22:58 |
| trmanco | he only tends to bite when he has @ status | Sep 25 22:58 |
| wispygalaxy | he's being a gentleman | Sep 25 22:58 |
| *PeterKraus has quit ("Leaving") | Sep 25 22:58 | |
| *trmanco sit boy, sit | Sep 25 22:58 | |
| wispygalaxy | XD | Sep 25 22:58 |
| MinceR | lacking op is the only reason it doesn't flip out :> | Sep 25 22:58 |
| phIRCe | /me sits | Sep 25 22:58 |
| trmanco | nah | Sep 25 22:58 |
| trmanco | that didn't work | Sep 25 22:59 |
| MinceR | try sending a ctcp ACTION sits | Sep 25 22:59 |
| wispygalaxy | here's a steak for you phIRCe *toss* | Sep 25 22:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 22:59 |
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| trmanco | I can't | Sep 25 22:59 |
| trmanco | I can send ctcp in a privmsg | Sep 25 22:59 |
| trmanco | can't* | Sep 25 23:01 |
| MinceR | then perhaps a privmsg consisting of \001ACTION sits\001, where \001 is ascii character 1? | Sep 25 23:01 |
| *trmanco tries | Sep 25 23:02 | |
| phIRCe | \001ACTION sits\001 | Sep 25 23:02 |
| trmanco | cool | Sep 25 23:02 |
| trmanco | i doesn't work | Sep 25 23:02 |
| MinceR | well, you'd need to convert it first :) | Sep 25 23:02 |
| MinceR | i can't send the character because it would be stripped by channel mode +c | Sep 25 23:03 |
| MinceR | also, it's difficult to copy that way :) | Sep 25 23:03 |
| trmanco | colors | Sep 25 23:03 |
| trmanco | heh | Sep 25 23:03 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Interesting Distribution from the #Philippines : #KahelLinux http://bit.ly/4VnZd | Sep 25 23:03 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Kahel Linux: Yet Another Philippine-made Distro | TECH SOURCE FROM BOHOL .::. Size~: 92.15 KB | Sep 25 23:03 |
| MinceR | iirc bold is also denoted by character code 1 | Sep 25 23:03 |
| trmanco | are you sure? | Sep 25 23:03 |
| MinceR | more or less | Sep 25 23:03 |
| trmanco | oh | Sep 25 23:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandrake Founder Runs #Ulteo from Amazon 'Cloud' http://www.indidea.org/gael/blog/?p=92 | Sep 25 23:04 | |
| trmanco | what a say the other day was bold in hex | Sep 25 23:04 |
| phIRCe | Title: Gaël Duval’s blog, le Blog de Gaël Duval / Linux, open source, Mandrake, Mandriva, Ulteo » Blog Archive » Running Ulteo Open Virtual Desktop in the clouds with Amazon’s EC2 .::. Size~: 281.72 KB | Sep 25 23:04 |
| trmanco | saw* | Sep 25 23:04 |
| trmanco | wow | Sep 25 23:04 |
| MinceR | hm, bold seems to be code 2, not 1 | Sep 25 23:05 |
| MinceR | would make more sense | Sep 25 23:05 |
| MinceR | as ctrl+B produces that | Sep 25 23:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Targets #Moblin http://bit.ly/2WlyRl | Sep 25 23:06 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Mandriva Mini based on Moblin™ version 2 technology is now available | Mandriva linux .::. Size~: 17.69 KB | Sep 25 23:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Final Appearance of #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 9.10 Shown http://bit.ly/ObxBE http://bit.ly/4nf5DH http://bit.ly/8rffp http://bit.ly/xnKVB | Sep 25 23:07 | |
| phIRCe | Title: The Final Artwork of Ubuntu 9.10 - The Karmic Koala Chronicles - Softpedia .::. Size~: 55.41 KB | Sep 25 23:07 |
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| phIRCe | Title: OMG! UBUNTU!: Karmic Network Manager's Updated New Look (Updated Again!) .::. Size~: 142.53 KB | Sep 25 23:07 |
| phIRCe | Title: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala Final Artwork [Screenshots] ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 147.88 KB | Sep 25 23:07 |
| trmanco | it gonna esplode | Sep 25 23:07 |
| trmanco | explode* | Sep 25 23:07 |
| trmanco | :-p | Sep 25 23:07 |
| MinceR | your head asplode! | Sep 25 23:07 |
| wispygalaxy | calm down phRCe! :P | Sep 25 23:07 |
| MinceR | it's exploitable indeed | Sep 25 23:08 |
| trmanco | what is? | Sep 25 23:08 |
| MinceR | 000925 [freenode] -phIRCe(n=b0t@bl6-136-54.dsl.telepac.pt)- You are not allowed to control me! | Sep 25 23:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Preliminary Release Schedule for #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.04 is Publicised http://bit.ly/18KOcv | Sep 25 23:08 | |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 25 23:08 |
| phIRCe | Title: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release Schedule - There are 2 Betas and 3 Alphas now - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.81 KB | Sep 25 23:08 |
| trmanco | LOL | Sep 25 23:08 |
| MinceR | foo bar! | Sep 25 23:08 |
| MinceR | a ! in the message triggers that | Sep 25 23:08 |
| trmanco | yes | Sep 25 23:08 |
| MinceR | anywhere | Sep 25 23:09 |
| trmanco | yeah | Sep 25 23:09 |
| MinceR | it shouldn't :> | Sep 25 23:09 |
| trmanco | it's a known issue | Sep 25 23:09 |
| trmanco | I'll work on it | Sep 25 23:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 23:09 |
| MinceR | is there any !-command unprivileged users can use? | Sep 25 23:09 |
| trmanco | !help | Sep 25 23:09 |
| trmanco | maybe | Sep 25 23:09 |
| trmanco | !help phIRCe | Sep 25 23:09 |
| MinceR | !help | Sep 25 23:09 |
| schestowitz | wispygalaxy: sorry for the delay | Sep 25 23:09 |
| MinceR | !help phIRCe | Sep 25 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Was distracted | Sep 25 23:09 |
| trmanco | you need it's nick | Sep 25 23:09 |
| wispygalaxy | that's ok roy :) | Sep 25 23:09 |
| MinceR | no results | Sep 25 23:09 |
| schestowitz | So did you see the whole Ubuntu kerkuffle? | Sep 25 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Hi, jono | Sep 25 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [22:56] <schestowitz> wispygalaxy: did you see the MarkS controversy? | Sep 25 23:10 |
| wispygalaxy | hey jono | Sep 25 23:10 |
| MinceR | now i got the You are not allowed to control me message | Sep 25 23:10 |
| wispygalaxy | i haven't gotten around to seeing it roy, sry | Sep 25 23:10 |
| trmanco | weird | Sep 25 23:10 |
| trmanco | ah | Sep 25 23:10 |
| trmanco | ok, then you cant | Sep 25 23:10 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I wanted to just hear your opinion on it cause you're not one of us disgusting males :-p :-p | Sep 25 23:10 |
| wispygalaxy | but i will a little bit later, roy | Sep 25 23:10 |
| wispygalaxy | oh ok haha | Sep 25 23:11 |
| wispygalaxy | do you have the link? | Sep 25 23:11 |
| MinceR | i wondered if i can trigger a command by putting the ! in some random place and either starting the message with the command word or padding it with 1 character | Sep 25 23:11 |
| MinceR | !quit | Sep 25 23:11 |
| trmanco | needs a name | Sep 25 23:11 |
| MinceR | !quit phIRCe | Sep 25 23:11 |
| wispygalaxy | i forgot the link, sorry roy | Sep 25 23:11 |
| trmanco | lol | Sep 25 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Stop trying to hijack the bot !! :-o | Sep 25 23:12 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: you have to make it cracks proof | Sep 25 23:12 |
| jono | hey schestowitz | Sep 25 23:12 |
| jono | hey wispygalaxy | Sep 25 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Some evil beaver will enter, hijack it and then ban everyone !!!! | Sep 25 23:12 |
| trmanco | I think it's crack proof | Sep 25 23:12 |
| trmanco | nah | Sep 25 23:12 |
| schestowitz | I'm joking | Sep 25 23:12 |
| trmanco | :-P | Sep 25 23:12 |
| wispygalaxy | nice to meet you jono | Sep 25 23:12 |
| trmanco | that's why it has no op yet | Sep 25 23:13 |
| wispygalaxy | i don't want to be banned from this awesome channel haha | Sep 25 23:13 |
| schestowitz | wispygalaxy: did you see the Open Letter? | Sep 25 23:13 |
| wispygalaxy | us humans will win this war :P | Sep 25 23:13 |
| wispygalaxy | oh yeah i saw that open letter | Sep 25 23:13 |
| schestowitz | wallclimber says she sees nothing wrong with MarkS's allged remarks | Sep 25 23:13 |
| schestowitz | And she's female too | Sep 25 23:13 |
| wispygalaxy | oh you mean shuttleworth | Sep 25 23:13 |
| schestowitz | But no-one can link to the original+context | Sep 25 23:14 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: well, don't op it, then :> | Sep 25 23:14 |
| wispygalaxy | wallclimber is cool | Sep 25 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, she is. | Sep 25 23:14 |
| wispygalaxy | yeah i have to agree with her | Sep 25 23:14 |
| jono | wispygalaxy, ditto :) | Sep 25 23:14 |
| schestowitz | She helps around the 'house' (BN) | Sep 25 23:14 |
| wispygalaxy | thx jono! | Sep 25 23:14 |
| MinceR | though ultimately you can take the channel back anyway, as long as you don't let others steal your nickserv/chanserv credentials | Sep 25 23:14 |
| trmanco | that won't happen | Sep 25 23:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 23:14 |
| jono | schestowitz, I was there, it was no big deal from what I saw | Sep 25 23:14 |
| trmanco | because I can always control it | Sep 25 23:14 |
| wispygalaxy | i couldn't make it there :( | Sep 25 23:15 |
| wispygalaxy | i'm in school now | Sep 25 23:15 |
| trmanco | the only way it to hack into my filesystem, change the bot config file, put the hackers nick on the file, restart the bot, op the bot and then kick, ban | Sep 25 23:15 |
| trmanco | is* | Sep 25 23:16 |
| MinceR | it's nick-based? | Sep 25 23:16 |
| MinceR | that's exploitable. | Sep 25 23:16 |
| MinceR | nickserv can't guarantee that you'll always keep your nick in every moment. | Sep 25 23:16 |
| MinceR | the most it will do is force a nickchange after 30 seconds or so | Sep 25 23:17 |
| trmanco | yes, it's nick based | Sep 25 23:17 |
| MinceR | or let you ghost the attacker if you have enough time | Sep 25 23:17 |
| trmanco | maybe I should do a login system | Sep 25 23:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Tries to #FUD #Linux, Fails to Convince Journalist http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/45582 | Sep 25 23:18 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Linux vs. Windows 7: A Chat with Microsoft | NetworkWorld.com Community .::. Size~: 118.82 KB | Sep 25 23:18 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 25 23:18 |
| MinceR | or at least you could get a cloak (unaffiliated/trmanco) and check that | Sep 25 23:18 |
| wispygalaxy | i g2g guys, see ya later! | Sep 25 23:19 |
| MinceR | then it's bound to your nickserv account | Sep 25 23:19 |
| wispygalaxy | bye to you too, phIRCe :P | Sep 25 23:19 |
| phIRCe | cya | Sep 25 23:19 |
| wispygalaxy | bye! haha | Sep 25 23:19 |
| trmanco | :-P | Sep 25 23:19 |
| wispygalaxy | well he hates me, then he likes me, then he hates me again :? | Sep 25 23:19 |
| trmanco | cloak uh | Sep 25 23:19 |
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| trmanco | heh | Sep 25 23:20 |
| trmanco | bots.. they are complicated :-P | Sep 25 23:20 |
| wispygalaxy | oh dear lol | Sep 25 23:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Success Story for #Ubuntu Loco Team http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1915 #gnu #linux #power | Sep 25 23:20 | |
| phIRCe | Title: LoCo stories: the Ubuntu New Mexico team helps the Endorphine Power Company | The Fridge .::. Size~: 13.28 KB | Sep 25 23:20 |
| wispygalaxy | see ya tony, mincer, jono, and roy! | Sep 25 23:20 |
| jono | bye! | Sep 25 23:20 |
| MinceR | o/ | Sep 25 23:20 |
| wispygalaxy | peace out | Sep 25 23:21 |
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| trmanco | wikimedia | Sep 25 23:22 |
| trmanco | wow | Sep 25 23:22 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vodafone Goes with #Linux for #Phones http://bit.ly/Kq3HO | Sep 25 23:22 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Vodafone picks a Linux-phone • The Register .::. Size~: 22.99 KB | Sep 25 23:22 |
| *trmanco is now known as trmanco_ | Sep 25 23:22 | |
| *trmanco_ is now known as trmanco | Sep 25 23:22 | |
| trmanco | MinceR: where do I request a cloak? | Sep 25 23:25 |
| MinceR | i'll fetch the official word on it | Sep 25 23:26 |
| trmanco | I've read that I have to communicate with the staff | Sep 25 23:26 |
| trmanco | ok | Sep 25 23:26 |
| MinceR | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | Sep 25 23:26 |
| MinceR | the big links are important :) | Sep 25 23:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OLPC on a Little Winning Streak with #GNU #Linux on Sub-notebooks http://bit.ly/JKfJK | Sep 25 23:27 | |
| MinceR | well, all 3 point to the same fragment, actually | Sep 25 23:27 |
| trmanco | yes | Sep 25 23:27 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 25 23:27 |
| trmanco | I've done that | Sep 25 23:27 |
| MinceR | then all that remains is find a staffer and ask them :) | Sep 25 23:28 |
| trmanco | ok | Sep 25 23:28 |
| trmanco | me joins freenode | Sep 25 23:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Skysoft Releases Air Traffic Software as #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/sk8cG | Sep 25 23:30 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Air traffic control radar display published as open source — .::. Size~: 28.04 KB | Sep 25 23:30 |
| trmanco | wow | Sep 25 23:31 |
| trmanco | MinceR: I'm cloaked | Sep 25 23:31 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 25 23:31 |
| trmanco | great staff freenode has | Sep 25 23:31 |
| MinceR | now if your bot checks your hostmask on commands then it will be a lot safer | Sep 25 23:32 |
| trmanco | I'll do that some other day | Sep 25 23:32 |
| trmanco | oh wait | Sep 25 23:33 |
| trmanco | actually | Sep 25 23:33 |
| trmanco | this is simple | Sep 25 23:33 |
| MinceR | password authentication is of course even safer | Sep 25 23:34 |
| *trmanco is now known as trmanco_ | Sep 25 23:35 | |
| *trmanco_ is now known as trmanco | Sep 25 23:35 | |
| trmanco | just checking something | Sep 25 23:35 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Wave of #FreeSoftware Adoption in Businesses Expected http://bit.ly/1rEbie | Sep 25 23:40 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #UK #Government Fails to Keep Obligations to #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/3q2xIz | Sep 25 23:40 | |
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| phIRCe | Title: UK government ignoring own rules on open source • Channel Register .::. Size~: 23.89 KB | Sep 25 23:40 |
| trmanco | http://www.workswithu.com/2009/09/25/canonicalubuntu-ceo-mark-shuttleworth-visits-dell/ | Sep 25 23:51 |
| phIRCe | Title: Canonical/Ubuntu CEO Mark Shuttleworth Visits Dell | WorksWithU .::. Size~: 44.56 KB | Sep 25 23:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Pro- #IntellectualMonopolies Judge Appointment Discredit the Legal System http://bit.ly/1sQsc | Sep 25 23:52 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Two More Pirate Bay Appeal Judges Accused of Bias | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 60.54 KB | Sep 25 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: you can see the mutual ass-kissing with WorkingWithU | Sep 25 23:58 |
| schestowitz | That's OK though | Sep 25 23:58 |
| trmanco | what do you mean by ass kicking? | Sep 25 23:58 |
| trmanco | I only say the video :-P | Sep 25 23:58 |
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| MinceR | he said kissing, not kicking | Sep 25 23:59 |
| trmanco | ah crap | Sep 25 23:59 |
| *trmanco is sleepy | Sep 25 23:59 | |
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