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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: November 10th, 2009

-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Windows 7 even suck more than Vista. It can't connect to Windows shares in your LAN for crying out loud.Nov 10 00:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ubuntu 9.10 has no problems with Windows shares.Nov 10 00:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WTO May be Assigned Something Useful Like #FreeSpeech http://ur1.ca/fgvd http://ur1.ca/fgveNov 10 00:01
phIRCe-localTitle: WTO could be used to abolish censorship say researchers • The Register .::. Size~: 27.35 KBNov 10 00:01
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Copyrights Madness with #ACTA http://ur1.ca/fgvg http://ur1.ca/fgvh http://ur1.ca/f6bxNov 10 00:03
phIRCe-localTitle: Copyright Treaty Is Policy Laundering at Its Finest | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 85.85 KBNov 10 00:03
phIRCe-localTitle: The ACTA Internet provisions: DMCA goes worldwide - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 49.84 KBNov 10 00:03
phIRCe-localTitle: Europe only goes half-way in protecting Internet rights. | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 24.85 KBNov 10 00:03
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] My conclusion: GNU/Linux handles Windows shares better than the latest Windows release. Vista 7, yet another overhyped POS!Nov 10 00:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Lulu Books go the Wrong Way: #DRM http://ur1.ca/fdny http://ur1.ca/fgvjNov 10 00:04
phIRCe-localTitle: Ebook license "agreements" are a ripoff - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 130.87 KBNov 10 00:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Anti-Sharing Group (Antipiratgruppen) Loses http://bit.ly/wL4NKNov 10 00:06
phIRCe-localTitle: Danish anti-piracy group gives up - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 91.51 KBNov 10 00:06
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Death of Software Patents May be Imminent http://ur1.ca/fgvv http://ur1.ca/fgvw #swpat #bilskiNov 10 00:08
phIRCe-localTitle: Analysis: The Lorenzo Jones case emerges | SCOTUSblog .::. Size~: 32.81 KBNov 10 00:08
phIRCe-localTitle: Bilski Case Provokes Patent Skepticism from Justices - The BLT: The Blog of Legal Times  .::. Size~: 60.6 KBNov 10 00:08
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Nice! within 2 hours Ive picked up over 700 readers to my site!.sorry 701.although Richard doesn't read it properly he does like to comment.Nov 10 00:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst Hi Marty! Hope you are well! I am currently running WIndows 7 for a review on OpenBytes...to be fair Im giving it another 2 weeks.Nov 10 00:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] US Supreme Court openly takes the piss out of Bilski's lawyer http://ur1.ca/fgvv http://ur1.ca/fgvw #swpat #bilskiNov 10 00:14
phIRCe-localTitle: Analysis: The Lorenzo Jones case emerges | SCOTUSblog .::. Size~: 32.81 KBNov 10 00:14
phIRCe-localTitle: Bilski Case Provokes Patent Skepticism from Justices - The BLT: The Blog of Legal Times  .::. Size~: 62.31 KBNov 10 00:14
_goblinRoy you there?Nov 10 00:16
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Goes to #Patent Trollville to Cope with Lawsuits http://ur1.ca/fgwaNov 10 00:17
phIRCe-localTitle: Court Transfers Part of Patent Case Involving Microsoft to Texas .::. Size~: 10.33 KBNov 10 00:17
_goblinTalking of courts/law  - You saw Jo's little tirade yesterday?  I am currently considering Sec127(1)b of the Communications Act 2003......."On (DATE) caused to be sent by means of a public electronic communications network, a message (specify) that was grossly offensive OR of an indecent, obscene OR menacing character...."Nov 10 00:19
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_goblinof course theres also an angle of a Harassment act offence.Nov 10 00:21
schestowitzYeah, I saw Richard's commentsNov 10 00:25
schestowitzSome were inflammatory IIRCNov 10 00:25
schestowitzI also saw ones about Vista 7Nov 10 00:25
schestowitzIt smelled like a TE (or apprentice) that Microsoft unleashedNov 10 00:25
schestowitzThey really, really hate negative posts about V7Nov 10 00:25
tessierIt would be really awesome if the Supreme Court put a stop to software and business method patents...Nov 10 00:27
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schestowitztessier: it's feasibleNov 10 00:27
schestowitzBilski at a lower level (2008 decision) already killed a software patentNov 10 00:28
schestowitzIt was a popular post in BN with about 150 commendsNov 10 00:28
schestowitz*ntsNov 10 00:28
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yuhong"Being a Microsoft evangelist (lead AstroTurfer)"Nov 10 00:33
yuhongWere you copying this claim from Needs Sunlight?Nov 10 00:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just got 30 more Google wave invites. I'm sure "everyone" has one by now, if not, let me have your email addy and I'll send you one.Nov 10 00:34
yuhongBecause I asked Needs Sunlight to link to evidence suggest Scoble was astroturfing, but Needs Sunlight did not respond.Nov 10 00:35
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Using Windows is like kicking a dead whale down the beach" http://bit.ly/1ZTClWNov 10 00:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Using Windows Is Like... - ZDNet.co.uk .::. Size~: 106.33 KBNov 10 00:36
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Murdoch announces plan to cut off nose http://is.gd/4RiIFNov 10 00:39
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] A classic cover! COF are great! http://bit.ly/3WivgVNov 10 00:39
phIRCe-localTitle: Murdoch announces plan to cut off nose - News of the News .::. Size~: 36.26 KBNov 10 00:39
schestowitzHey, yuhongNov 10 00:43
yuhongHi.Nov 10 00:44
schestowitzNo, Scoble was a TENov 10 00:44
schestowitzThey are AstroTurfersNov 10 00:44
schestowitzLike Goldberg and JamesPNov 10 00:44
yuhongYes, but did Scoble himself really astroturf?Nov 10 00:45
yuhongFrom http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3781Nov 10 00:45
yuhong"While COFEE doesn’t break BitLocker or open a back door, it captures live data on the computer, which is why it’s important for agents not to shut down the computer first, Fung said. A law enforcement agent connects the USB drive to a computer at the scene of a crime and it takes a snapshot of important information on the computer. It can save information such as what user was logged on...Nov 10 00:45
yuhong...and...Nov 10 00:45
yuhong...for how long and what files were running at that time, Fung said. It can be used on a computer using any type of encryption software, not just BitLocker."Nov 10 00:45
yuhongOn the BitLocker backdoor, live data capture would make a backdoor unnesserary.Nov 10 00:46
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yuhongBTW, what do you think of my attempts to rebut Windows 7 criticism?Nov 10 00:48
schestowitzWhich specifically?Nov 10 00:49
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst maybe Wouter van K00k and other Microsoft MVPs did their 'thing'Nov 10 00:49
yuhongThings like http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/12/louderback-on-vista-7/Nov 10 00:49
phIRCe-localTitle: Company CEO Finds Out Why Windows 7 is Called Vista 7 | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 114.25 KBNov 10 00:49
yuhongWhere I explained this case?Nov 10 00:50
_goblinyuhong: Though COFEE would be ineffective against a system that ran a combo of a LIVECD and memory card, wouldn't it.  Forgetting that the evidential worth of a 10 minute training course Jo capturing such material would be ripped appart at court.Nov 10 00:52
Diablo-D3or just have a machine that randomly rebootsNov 10 00:52
_goblinor a TSR that trashes data upon USB pheripheral detection.Nov 10 00:52
_goblinthat why Jo is not allowed to tamper with live systems and why an easy to use Cofee is completely pointless.Nov 10 00:53
schestowitzyuhong: I read it, yesNov 10 00:53
_goblinI wish I could explain the SOP for this type of job, I can't its not appropriate.  What I can say is that the SOP differs completely for everything Cofee seeks to provide.Nov 10 00:54
_goblinIMHO of course.Nov 10 00:54
yuhongAnd if you don't believe me you should read the review in detail and and notice the pattern.Nov 10 00:54
yuhongWhat do you think of that?Nov 10 00:55
_goblinyuhong: what also is not considered is that an agency doesn't simply "stumble" upon a live system by accident.  I can't envisage a job where Cofee would be required and presumably if the system was subject to a previous investigation, there would be other monitoring techniques already in place....Nov 10 00:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Murdoch announces plan to cut off nose http://is.gd/4RiIF original text by @deathboyuk - cheers! *pint*Nov 10 00:57
phIRCe-localTitle: Murdoch announces plan to cut off nose - News of the News .::. Size~: 36.27 KBNov 10 00:57
_goblinlolNov 10 00:57
_goblinMurdoch the three strikes champion?Nov 10 00:58
ThistleWebHowling Mad or Rupert?Nov 10 00:58
ThistleWebor are they one in the same?Nov 10 00:58
_goblindohNov 10 00:58
_goblinmandlesonNov 10 00:58
_goblinits lateNov 10 00:58
_goblinthats my defence, Im sticking with it.Nov 10 00:59
yuhongAlso, I rebuked another article by pointing out Linux rootkits.Nov 10 01:02
yuhongIt's title was something like "Vista 7 Cannot Be Secured. It Is A Design Problem".Nov 10 01:03
yuhongWhat did you think of that?Nov 10 01:04
yuhongAnyway, I read this:Nov 10 01:15
yuhonghttp://scobleizer.com/2009/11/02/the-chat-roomforum-problem-an-apology-to-technosailor/Nov 10 01:15
phIRCe-localTitle: The chat room/forum problem (& an apology to @Technosailor) .::. Size~: 143.87 KBNov 10 01:15
_goblinNo offence yuhong, but is the approval of others really important?  I thought the idea was we put our views forward because we had an honest held belief, not because of what others thought of our views.Nov 10 01:15
yuhongYep, political correctness, another mess altogether.Nov 10 01:16
_goblineh? you lost me there.Nov 10 01:16
yuhongAnd I just wrote this comment:Nov 10 01:17
yuhonghttp://scobleizer.com/2009/11/02/the-chat-roomforum-problem-an-apology-to-technosailor/#comment-22485451Nov 10 01:17
phIRCe-localTitle: The chat room/forum problem (& an apology to @Technosailor) .::. Size~: 143.87 KBNov 10 01:17
yuhongLinking to Joe Barr's article.Nov 10 01:18
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jose_Xschestowitz:Nov 10 01:37
jose_X"EU objects to Oracle's takeover of Sun"Nov 10 01:37
jose_Xhttp://finance.yahoo.com/news/EU-objects-to-Oracles-apf-4152634626.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=Nov 10 01:37
phIRCe-localTitle: EU objects to Oracle's takeover of Sun - Yahoo! Finance .::. Size~: 92.37 KBNov 10 01:37
jose_X>> European antitrust regulators have formally objected to Sun Microsystems Inc.'s planned $7.4 billion sale to Oracle Corp., escalating a battle over a deal that has already been cleared in the U.S.Nov 10 01:37
jose_X>> In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission Monday, Sun stressed that European regulators' objections are the result only of a preliminary investigation and that the commission hasn't made its final decision about the matter. Sun and Oracle are allowed to argue their case to the commission, which Oracle said it will do to correct what it called a "profound misunderstanding" about the companies' markets.Nov 10 01:37
jose_Xhere is another link:Nov 10 01:39
jose_Xhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703808904574526072224895160.htmlNov 10 01:39
phIRCe-localTitle: EU Issues Objections to Sun-Oracle Deal  - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 120.41 KBNov 10 01:39
jose_XThe companies said Monday that the European Commission issued a statement of objections regarding the deal, which they said focuses on whether Oracle's takeover of Sun's MySQL database software would reduce competition in the market.Nov 10 01:40
jose_XThe move doesn't necessarily mean the European Union will reject the deal, but it will delay the transaction since regulators have concluded there is a competitive problem.Nov 10 01:40
jose_X>> Oracle Chief Executive Larry Ellison said recently that he wouldn't spin off MySQL to pave the way for a deal. Oracle recently spent its annual conference outlining a vision for products that combine its software with hardware from Sun.Nov 10 01:41
jose_XIf Oracle isn't willing to make a concession, its options including fighting the EU through hearings and, if necessary, in court. Oracle could also walk away from the Sun deal for a $260 million breakup fee.Nov 10 01:41
jose_XSun's business as a stand-alone company has been hurt by regulatory delays. Its sales for the quarter ended in September dropped 25% from a year earlier, while unit sales of servers were off 41%.Nov 10 01:41
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_Hicham_FoxitReader runs great on Fedora 12Nov 10 01:53
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satiperahttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8351331.stm  Rupert Murdoch says he will cut off his nose to spite his face.Nov 10 01:55
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yuhongIt took me some time, but I finally found my own comment which I would like to talk about.Nov 10 01:58
yuhonghttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/06/ishellbrowser-marvel-and-capone/#commentsNov 10 01:59
phIRCe-localTitle: What Microsofts Brad Silverberg, Bill Gates, and Al Capone Have in Common | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 106.84 KBNov 10 01:59
yuhongIt is a quote from an old issue of infoworld.Nov 10 02:00
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schestowitzgnNov 10 02:11
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] If Microsoft sites lead time online, pigs can fly http://tinyurl.com/ybnga6h #microsoft #windows7 #windows #xp #vista #mmNov 10 02:22
phIRCe-localTitle: If Microsoft sites lead time online, pigs can fly | Betanews .::. Size~: 34.96 KBNov 10 02:22
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] This is cool! RD: @sankarshan: http://is.gd/4RfJK (PDF link) for Odt2DAISY 2.0 release. http://is.gd/4RfLh #openofficedotorg #DAISYNov 10 02:23
phIRCe-localTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 10 02:23
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phIRCe-localTitle: odt2daisy | OpenDocument To DAISY DTBook - Home .::. Size~: 11.33 KBNov 10 02:23
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] National Home care & Hospice: #hcr bill cuts $56 Billion we need to do good work, home care http://ur1.ca/fh4t Reform?Nov 10 02:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] National Home care & Hospice: #hcr bill cuts $56 Billion we need to do good work, home care http://ur1.ca/fh4tNov 10 02:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Home and Hospice Care - C-SPAN Video Library .::. Size~: 17.85 KBNov 10 02:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Home and Hospice Care - C-SPAN Video Library .::. Size~: 17.85 KBNov 10 02:36
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right Im off...my daily average readerbase of UIP's is now at 420. Seems like the plethora of mail which gave support is bearing fruit!Nov 10 02:46
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and thats no bad thing...how about some more counters from the "faithful" though? youre always welcome. #microsoft #windows #xp #vistaNov 10 02:47
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Sorry for the late respond, yes Wouter and that whining little baby Rinsema (CEO M$ NL) did their evil deeds :-(Nov 10 03:08
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Modder does #DMCA takedown against #InfinityWard on #YouTube and #YouTube complies http://ur1.ca/fh62Nov 10 03:08
phIRCe-localTitle: YouTube Yanked This Vid Off Infinity Ward Channel — on Modder's Takedown Notice - Modern warfare 2 - Kotaku .::. Size~: 65.74 KBNov 10 03:08
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin Sorry for the late respond Jonbo, having problems with my Internet connection (will be fixed this week).Nov 10 03:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin What do you think about file and printersharing in Vista7? Can't get it to work here.Nov 10 03:12
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @downwithtyranny : Alan Grayson Gives A Lesson To Republicans And Blue Dogs About What It Means To Be Pro-Life http://ur1.ca/fh7r #p2Nov 10 03:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @downwithtyranny Alan Grayson Gives A Lesson To Republicans And Blue Dogs About What It Means To Be Pro-Life http://ur1.ca/fh7r #p2 #hcrNov 10 03:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-ea10-2009nov10,0,387264.storyNov 10 03:43
DaemonFCEA's DRM chickens are coming home to roostNov 10 03:43
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @sarahlee310: Dear #Democratic party selfSatisfied sellOuts - Enough already! http://bit.ly/1drBm5 #p2 #hcr #singlepayerNov 10 03:48
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @Razorback903: At these demonstrations against #hcr where are the black, hispanic, or young people?Nov 10 03:54
_Hicham_the daemonNov 10 03:57
_Hicham_DaemonFC : beware, the terrorists may be tracking uNov 10 04:03
DaemonFC_Hicham_, I'm more afraid of the guy in front of you that puts his seat back and crushes your legsNov 10 04:04
DaemonFCnot some arab that's a foot shorter than me with a box cutterNov 10 04:04
DaemonFCanyway, I drive wherever I goNov 10 04:04
_Hicham_does that mean that u r afraid of car accidents ?Nov 10 04:05
DaemonFCnot reallyNov 10 04:06
_Hicham_yum install tomboy ...Nov 10 04:09
_Hicham_hah, just 14 Mb of dependenciesNov 10 04:10
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_Hicham_oiaohm : hiNov 10 04:21
DaemonFCI may ask them to put me on Pravastatin if that idiot in the office can't get her shit togetherNov 10 04:24
DaemonFCthere's always one idiot in every group you have to deal with and it seems like it's some kind of law of nature that I get to deal with them allNov 10 04:25
DaemonFCI'm splitting my Crestor tablets down to 5 mg to make them last because she was not paying attention and didn't order my medicine because she thought she didn't have the form she asked me forNov 10 04:26
DaemonFCso she sticks the post-it note saying she needs that form before she can order it onto THAT FORMNov 10 04:26
oiaohmHi _Hicham_Nov 10 04:28
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DaemonFChttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8349905.stmNov 10 04:29
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 80.88 KBNov 10 04:29
DaemonFCWorm attack bites at Apple iPhoneNov 10 04:29
amarsh04codling moth? (-:Nov 10 04:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @captainskyhawk  - Indeed. I've often wondered how we can actually be "at #war " with something intangible like #terror …or reason.Nov 10 04:32
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oiaohmReally same style worms bite some Unix/Linux boxs as well DaemonFCNov 10 04:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @bacigalupe: Is Lieberman going to run4Pres as a Republican next time? Can the party impeach this guy? #hcr http://liebermanmustgo.com/Nov 10 04:34
phIRCe-localTitle: Joe Lieberman Must GO .::. Size~: 20.29 KBNov 10 04:34
amarsh04http://www.epic.org/alert/epic_alert_1620.htmlNov 10 04:35
phIRCe-localTitle: EPIC - EPIC Alert 16.20 .::. Size~: 46.31 KBNov 10 04:35
_Hicham_oiaohm : how can a work attack a linux box ?Nov 10 04:36
amarsh04Privacy Groups Urge Google Books Judge to Protect User PrivacyNov 10 04:37
amarsh04title for the URL aboveNov 10 04:37
fewaA age-old tradition of library privacyNov 10 04:40
fewa*historicNov 10 04:40
oiaohm_Hicham_: some distributions have default passwords _Hicham_Nov 10 04:41
oiaohmThat people don't bother changing _Hicham_Nov 10 04:41
oiaohmSo leaving holes.Nov 10 04:41
oiaohmOr doing stupid things like using 1234 as root password _Hicham_Nov 10 04:42
_Hicham_ah, i seeNov 10 04:43
_Hicham_then it is a user issueNov 10 04:43
_Hicham_not a linux issueNov 10 04:43
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fewaThats the password to my briefcase!Nov 10 04:52
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @NakedAxiom: School House Rock originally intended for kids but they might speak volumes to today's adult. #civics #govtNov 10 05:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @NakedAxiom : School House Rock could speak volumes to today's adult. #civics #govtNov 10 05:12
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DaemonFCI may have to opt-out of the Medicare, I'm not sureNov 10 05:26
DaemonFCat least part ANov 10 05:27
DaemonFCthe hospital coverage plan is gonna be $443 a month in premiumsNov 10 05:27
DaemonFCI think I may just be able to get it down to where I can see the doctor and get my prescriptions thoughNov 10 05:27
cubezzzanyone know about the TERM variable?Nov 10 05:33
cubezzzI'm getting interesting results with export TERM=rxvtNov 10 05:33
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shreddarOK, I know most people are probably asleep now but I just got my intuos3 working perfectly. Gimp/X can tell my mouse is not a puck Yaaaaayyy.Nov 10 05:43
shreddarI had this working in Ubuntu out of the box but some update or something must have broke it. In Sabayon I had to full around with the xorg.conf but not as big a deal as most might think it only took 2 tries (I forgot to add it to the Server Layout section).Nov 10 05:49
shreddarEven though I had to manually add them myself I still like the feeling that they will keep working 100% regardless of updates.Nov 10 05:53
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*tessier is liking xmonad even more now that he has finally figured out dzenNov 10 06:35
tessierAnd hopefully have notifications workingNov 10 06:35
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MinceRhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/09/2319233/Microsoft-Tries-To-Censor-Bing-Vulnerability?from=rssNov 10 08:12
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oiaohmBoy does MS still have the same secuirty personal from 1994Nov 10 08:35
oiaohmBecause that kind of solution is exactly what they did to me back then MinceRNov 10 08:36
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schestowitzoiaohm: interesting... yet so typical.Nov 10 08:58
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Bilski Hearing Starts Well for #Abolishers of #SoftwarePatents http://ping.fm/w4mYz Great start. #swaptNov 10 09:05
schestowitzhahaha. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/nov/09/murdoch-googleNov 10 09:23
schestowitz"In the meantime, his explanation is really quite stunning. He claims that he believes fair use is a concept that the courts will reject.." http://techdirt.com/articles/20091108/2223416852.shtmlNov 10 09:23
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schestowitzGoogle Okay With Blocking News Corp. http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/11/09/google-okay-with-blocking-news-corpNov 10 09:32
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8350039.stmNov 10 09:35
Diablo-D3I wish google would block news cropNov 10 09:36
Diablo-D3less bullshit on the internet is always greatNov 10 09:36
schestowitz"Google is backing a dump truck of acquisition money on AdMob, a company that specializes on serving display ads on the iPhone and other mobile devices." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/09/google_to_buy_admob/Nov 10 09:46
schestowitzhttp://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/Nov 10 09:46
Diablo-D3oh christ not that againNov 10 09:47
schestowitzhttp://blog.reidreport.com/2009/08/ge-fox-news-and-the-other-glenn-beck-boycott/Nov 10 09:47
MinceRiirc Fiasco Systems has the same approach to vulnerabilitiesNov 10 09:48
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/09/rupert_murdoch_pull_content_google_news/Nov 10 09:48
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/09/sprint_layoffs/Nov 10 09:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What will Sun do now that it cannot be sold (this year)? http://ping.fm/wIcvV Put #mysql out thereNov 10 09:50
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-11-09-010-35-SC-0000Nov 10 09:54
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-11-09-010-35-SC-0001 "http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-11-09-010-35-SC-0000"Nov 10 09:54
schestowitz"And who the heck is Cenzic? "Nov 10 09:55
schestowitzMicrosoft hides its vulnerabilitiesNov 10 09:55
schestowitzFraudulent counts]Nov 10 09:55
schestowitzhttp://dailycupoftech.com/2008/05/21/ms-eula-in-plain-english/Nov 10 10:05
schestowitz'Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/e2fsprogs/e2fslibs_1.41.9-1ubuntu2_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 194.169.254.10 80]"Nov 10 10:15
schestowitzCould it be that update server is down at the moment?Nov 10 10:15
schestowitzhttp://www.the-source.com/2009/11/open-mouses/ In defend of mighty mouse :-)Nov 10 10:19
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zer0c00lschestowitz: Please check you email;Nov 10 10:24
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schestowitz"The udk.com website has the so-called Unreal Development Kit (UDK) ready for download and includes licensing details. Students, teachers, researchers, artists and other users can employ UDK free for their projects so long as they don't profit commercially from it, including income from advertising, sponsorship and the like. Under these terms, the Unreal Engine is intended for learning purposes and developing free games and modules.Nov 10 10:41
schestowitzYet no Linux version... *Sigh*Nov 10 10:41
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Unreal-Engine-3-Free-or-Not-for-Game-DevelopersNov 10 10:41
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Groklaw has the full transcript of Bilski's hearing: http://i5.be/SgNov 10 10:43
schestowitzzer0c00l: thanksNov 10 10:46
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schestowitzApple folks have a wild imagination... http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/11/07/open-source-design-and-the-openofficemouse/Nov 10 10:48
schestowitzMouse seen as some kind of Apple product. Do rocks look like iPhones too?Nov 10 10:49
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schestowitzGoldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I’m Doing God’s Work." http://distressedmarketplace.com/2009/11/07/goldman-sachs-ceo-lloyd-blankfein-i%E2%80%99m-doing-god%E2%80%99s-work/Nov 10 11:12
schestowitzhttp://www.disinfo.com/2009/11/goldman-sachs-official-says-jesus-embraced-greed/Nov 10 11:17
schestowitzhttp://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-increase-security-by-securing-your-d-link-wireless-router/Nov 10 11:37
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Bom dia!Nov 10 11:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Patent Office "independent" Enlarged Board of Appeal says its pro-software patent judges are "independent" http://i5.be/R8Nov 10 11:41
schestowitzhttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/09/openoffice-distances-itself-from-openofficemouse-joins-everyone/Nov 10 11:43
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] crl do roller coaster kingdom nao faz load no facebook :SNov 10 11:47
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] 6 more sleeps till I wake up in Dallas for the first day of the Ubuntu Developer Summit! #fbNov 10 12:24
oiaohm_Why does the Unreal 3 engine really mean anything.  schestowitz.   Answer it does not.  Blender engine and Nexuiz engines are getting more advanced than what the Unreal engine is.Nov 10 12:41
Diablo-D3hey!Nov 10 12:41
Diablo-D3its darkplaces damnitNov 10 12:41
Diablo-D3not nexuizNov 10 12:41
Diablo-D3and the unreal 3 engine isnt newsNov 10 12:42
Diablo-D3its closed source, its very shitty, and it isnt free for developers.Nov 10 12:42
oiaohm_nexuiz engine these days include items darkspaces does not  Diablo-D3Nov 10 12:42
Diablo-D3oiaohm_: no, it _is_ darkplacesNov 10 12:42
*Diablo-D3 sits in #darkplaces, has known the dp author, lordhavoc, for yearsNov 10 12:43
oiaohm_darkplaces has not have vechicel support Diablo-D3Nov 10 12:43
Diablo-D3darkplaces does not not have vehicle support.Nov 10 12:43
oiaohm_That feature still has to be ported back.Nov 10 12:43
Diablo-D3its up to the game to do itNov 10 12:43
oiaohm_To make it simple todo nexuiz has added parts Diablo-D3Nov 10 12:44
Diablo-D3yes, Im well aware of thisNov 10 12:44
Diablo-D3but its up to the game to do itNov 10 12:44
Diablo-D3dp in dp mode is still just a quake1 engine.Nov 10 12:44
oiaohm_unreal 3 engine also includes vehicle frame work Diablo-D3.Nov 10 12:45
Diablo-D3so?Nov 10 12:45
Diablo-D3its not open source, its not freeNov 10 12:45
Diablo-D3no one gives a fuck about itNov 10 12:45
oiaohm_Feature to feature match.Nov 10 12:45
Diablo-D3vehicles also suck dickNov 10 12:45
Diablo-D3and I wish games would quit implementing themNov 10 12:45
oiaohm_Reason why I said nexuiz engine not darkspaces is the feature match.Nov 10 12:46
MinceR<vehicles> no uNov 10 12:46
oiaohm_I can never seam to mangae to leave the central s out that name.Nov 10 12:47
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Diablo-D3BUT NEXUIZ ISNT A FUCKING ENGINENov 10 12:49
*Diablo-D3 wonders why half this channel is so fucking cluelessNov 10 12:49
schestowitzoiaohm_: I never cared much about  itNov 10 12:50
oiaohm_Note I said Nexuiz engines to start off with.   Then I skiped a s latter on Diablo-D3Nov 10 12:51
schestowitzDiablo-D3: watch your languageNov 10 12:51
schestowitzThis isn't 4chanNov 10 12:51
oiaohm_Nexuiz is not just one part.  darkplaces is just one part that makes up it processing core Diablo-D3Nov 10 12:52
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Diablo-D3oiaohm_: no, its the whole engine.Nov 10 12:53
Diablo-D3all of it.Nov 10 12:53
Diablo-D3oiaohm_: all the supposed nexuiz specific parts are inside the dp source treeNov 10 12:55
Diablo-D3and you need the dp source tree to build nexuizNov 10 12:55
oiaohm_Yes its a opps I just check the source.  2.5.0 had a patch to darkplaces so what they need for vechines to work in testing would.   Current 2.5.2 has that patch merged upstream Diablo-D3.Nov 10 12:59
oiaohm_Basically I was right a few versions ago.  Not now sorry Diablo-D3Nov 10 12:59
Diablo-D3you were never actually rightNov 10 13:00
Diablo-D3nexuiz does not actually have vehiclesNov 10 13:00
Diablo-D3it may someday, but it doesn't now.Nov 10 13:00
oiaohm_It does now on particular testing servers Diablo-D3Nov 10 13:00
oiaohm_Or the svn version Diablo-D3Nov 10 13:01
Diablo-D3only on ones that are built from svnNov 10 13:01
Diablo-D3like mineNov 10 13:01
Diablo-D3dun dun dunnnn guess what! I run a nexuiz server that uses svn!Nov 10 13:01
Diablo-D3how shocking!Nov 10 13:01
oiaohm_Not really shocking so do I Diablo-D3Nov 10 13:01
oiaohm_You are aware that the vechine support can be done as a mod on the stable release Diablo-D3?Nov 10 13:03
Diablo-D3yesNov 10 13:04
Diablo-D3but you still need maps that have the supportNov 10 13:04
Diablo-D3which no one seems to be makingNov 10 13:04
oiaohm_Nothing new there Diablo-D3Nov 10 13:05
oiaohm_Every new game type of nexuiz has taken a while before the map makers get use to it and get bussy.Nov 10 13:05
oiaohm_Basically give map makers time to battle with them and learn how to lay out map to provide protection and other useful things.Nov 10 13:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Lonely...Nov 10 13:16
Diablo-D3lol noNov 10 13:16
Diablo-D3they'll always suckNov 10 13:16
oiaohm_Mechs vs bases with turrents to blow the crap out of them could be fun.Nov 10 13:22
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Anyone running Ubuntu 9.10 on a Viglen MPC-L? Work okay? Tempted to upgrade from Jaunty.Nov 10 13:25
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Lies About #Security http://ping.fm/o2CtINov 10 14:01
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @slashdot: Microsoft Tries To Censor Bing Vulnerability http://bit.ly/1t385xNov 10 14:15
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] How #EFF saved #Indymedia from an #unconstitutional subpoena for all its visitors' IP addresses http://ur1.ca/fhnvNov 10 14:15
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #LarryLessig talks about the values of #education and #science and the need to bring #copyright into harmony with them http://ur1.ca/fhnwNov 10 14:15
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] FOSS and Open standards covered in frontline: http://tinyurl.com/ylluwcv http://tinyurl.com/ygdlywx http://tinyurl.com/yj6jjf5Nov 10 14:15
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Giveaways Are Not #Windows Sales http://ping.fm/HxuCD #lieNov 10 14:23
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Since When is Bill Gates an #India Official? http://ping.fm/FwmL1 #nasscom #politicsNov 10 14:50
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @Jennyjinx: RT @LeahAnakin: @wegoted Buy a rider? In case U might need an abortion at some time? What kind of logic is this? #hcrNov 10 15:05
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Oracle not mentioning patents: "[...] because MySQL is open source, it cannot be controlled by anyone." http://i5.be/SkNov 10 15:15
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DaemonFCI think the worst part about Medicare is how damned confusing it all isNov 10 15:16
DaemonFCI have no idea what to sign up for, I could only imagine the confusion if I was 40 years olderNov 10 15:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @therealdeanne:Anyone who utters "let's get real" while defending private insurance %30 profit+overhead is clearly out of their mind. #hcrNov 10 15:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Nieuwe Internet verbinding bij KPN aangevraagd. Als het goed is, krijg ik morgen een "Dongel", ben benieuwd of het onder Ubuntu werkt.Nov 10 15:18
DaemonFCAt least on private insurance they always spelled out exactly what I was buying, with Medicare there's TWENTY-SIX plans, AND Medicare OriginalNov 10 15:18
DaemonFCan then when you sign up for a plan and it turns out to suck, you can't change it til the next open enrollmentNov 10 15:19
DaemonFCthen some people have to pay $300-400 a month for part A if they don't have enough work quarter credits, but disabled people on SSDI don't pay thatNov 10 15:20
DaemonFCbut everyone pays part B which is like $96 a month, Part B is optional but you need it for extra doctor and hospital coverage that Part A doesn't provideNov 10 15:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @therealdeanne: uttering "let's get real" while defending private insurance %30 profit+overhead is laughable #hcrNov 10 15:21
DaemonFCyou can't skip Part A even though you may not be able to pay for it and might not want hospital coverageNov 10 15:21
DaemonFCThen you have to have A and B to qualify for the prescription drug plan, Part DNov 10 15:21
DaemonFCthat together is original MedicareNov 10 15:21
DaemonFCNotice that there's huge co-pays, huge deductibles, and no dental or chiropractic coverage at allNov 10 15:22
DaemonFCSo you're going to have to sign up for a Part C plan to get those deductibles and co-pays down, and to get dental and chiropracticNov 10 15:23
DaemonFCby the time you've done this, you're dealing with a private insurance company *and* the government, and this is where things start getting confusingNov 10 15:23
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @xo1rider: Cant wait another year for #hcr Let's get it right and make it #singlepayer and skip the concessions State's right #singlepayerNov 10 15:24
DaemonFCyour premium for Part C is probably going to cost another $30 a month for coverage that's worth anything, and then you're back to being limited to doctors in that plan's networkNov 10 15:24
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DaemonFCso I wonder if scientes is aware of the damned mess the government has made of Medicare, the premiums that people have to pay on limited fixed incomes, the complications, and how it's fixing to go under in 10 yearsNov 10 15:25
DaemonFCthat's what the government has managed to do to Medicare, why would anyone want government insurance?Nov 10 15:25
DaemonFCor for that matter, a single payer systemNov 10 15:26
DaemonFCMedicare is a single payer system and it has been botched all over and eviscerated by the Republicans Part D planNov 10 15:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: I have a question for a friend...Nov 10 15:29
schestowitzAnonymous one..Nov 10 15:30
DaemonFCschestowitz, And what would that be?Nov 10 15:30
schestowitzFrom someone who reads IRC...Nov 10 15:31
schestowitz> I have a question about setting up a small recording studio for aNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> musician friend who's on a very tight budget.  The setup we found looksNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> pretty simple, and I think I can put it together, but I don't know if itNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> will really work (or save any money, in the long run). Nov 10 15:31
schestowitz> Nov 10 15:31
schestowitz> DaemonFC (Ryan?) seems to know a lot about audio stuff.  In yourNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> opinion, is he really as knowledgeable as he claims?  If you think heNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> really does know what he's talking about, do you think he would mindNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> looking over the set-up I found and giving some advice?  Here's the linkNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> to itNov 10 15:31
schestowitz> <http://acousticguitarclub.ning.com/group/homerecording/forum/topics/how-i-get-decent-audio-with-no>.Nov 10 15:31
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @troyrecord: Murphy vote no http://ur1.ca/fiac and doesn't support #hr676 #singlepayer == Enemy of change #hcr What about 40,000 dead/yr?Nov 10 15:32
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DaemonFCI see a couple problems with thatNov 10 15:34
schestowitzzer0c00l|afk: someone from India has just shown me this: http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/fiction-why-you-shouldnt-keep-your-child-in-aNov 10 15:35
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DaemonFCMainly WMV can't handle more than 16-bit 48 khz anywayNov 10 15:35
DaemonFCcause it uses WMA Standard for audioNov 10 15:35
_Hicham_DaemonFC as always, encodind/decoderNov 10 15:35
_Hicham_*encoding/decodingNov 10 15:35
_Hicham_DaemonFC is a codecNov 10 15:35
DaemonFCif he has the option to use WMA Pro, he could do that, but then the audio track may not play on anything other than the ZuneNov 10 15:36
DaemonFC:)Nov 10 15:36
DaemonFCso he should find another set of codecs to use Nov 10 15:36
DaemonFCif he really wants to do 24-bit 96 Khz, he should probably do H.264 with AAC for audioNov 10 15:37
DaemonFCAAC can handle itNov 10 15:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: thanks, I'll tell himNov 10 15:38
DaemonFCTheora + FLAC would work, but FLAC is massiveNov 10 15:38
DaemonFCVorbis is only good up to 48 Khz, like MP3Nov 10 15:38
DaemonFCin some ways Vorbis (AoTuv) especially) is better than MP3 and AAC, because of a better psychoacoustic model (than either) and scalefactor bands for all frequencies (MP3 doesn't handle >16 Khz that well and it will bloat the entire file when it has to adjust the global gain to create a pseudo-scalefactor)Nov 10 15:41
DaemonFCif you're just encoding CDs, Vorbis is the best choice, if you're really concerned about encoding vinyl to a lossy format really well, use AACNov 10 15:42
DaemonFCWhy would you use AAC for vinyl? You wouldn't by choice, you'd want FLAC. but FLAC to AAC for a portable player is very good quality with size constraints being an issueNov 10 15:43
wallcI just read that link.  The guy says he covers his computer with a blanket when he records.  that surely can't be a good thing to do...Nov 10 15:43
DaemonFCwallc, It isn'tNov 10 15:43
DaemonFCI was going to say that too, it'll overheatNov 10 15:44
DaemonFCof course I think sampling over about 48 Khz is almost certainly overkill anywayNov 10 15:44
wallci suppose the crackling sounds of fire might make a good special effect...lolNov 10 15:44
DaemonFCCDs sample at 44.1 Khz giving them a dynamic frequency range up to 22.05 khzNov 10 15:45
wallche seems to have a Windows only set up, could someone do the same things using Linux?Nov 10 15:45
DaemonFCwhich you'd have to have really good ears to hear the entire dynamic range anywayNov 10 15:45
wallcjust curiousNov 10 15:46
DaemonFCThe problem is that record companies abuse that frequency range and end up causing "clipping" :PNov 10 15:46
DaemonFCthat Death Magnetic album from Metallica is a good example of clippingNov 10 15:46
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DaemonFCthe record companies try to make everything sound loud with dynamic range compressionNov 10 15:47
wallcbut this was about someone wanting to record for themselves...Nov 10 15:47
DaemonFCwallc, From what I'd seen, Linux has limited support for the X-FiNov 10 15:48
DaemonFCbut in general? yeah probablyNov 10 15:48
DaemonFCwallc, The last I saw, Red Hat and Novell were the only ones actually working on the X-Fi driverNov 10 15:50
DaemonFCit's another one of those ATI-style copoutsNov 10 15:50
DaemonFCWe'll give you some specs and you write a Linux driverNov 10 15:50
wallci suppose one problem might be the software that comes with the sound card he was using...Nov 10 15:50
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #Hilarious #fiction Why you shouldn't keep your child in a school where M$'s son study http://tinyurl.com/yacyxyr (via @schestowitz)Nov 10 15:50
zer0c00lschestowitz: Reading ;)Nov 10 15:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell and #Microsoft Expand Relationship to Boost Windows, .NET, Visual Studio, #Linux #Patent Tax http://ping.fm/UTpo3Nov 10 15:51
DaemonFCwallc, Nero's suite is bloated, but their audio tools are excellentNov 10 15:51
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @PNHP: Harvard: In 2008, 2,266 veterans died due to uninsrnc—14X higher than #Afganistan troop deaths http://ur1.ca/fiby #singlepayer #hcrNov 10 15:58
phIRCe-localTitle: Over 2,200 Vets Died for Lack of Health Insurance in 2008  - NAM .::. Size~: 35.66 KBNov 10 15:58
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @PNHP: Harvard: In 2008, 2,266 veterans died due to uninsrn—14X higher than #Afghanistan troop deaths http://ur1.ca/fiby #singlepayer #hcrNov 10 15:59
phIRCe-localTitle: Over 2,200 Vets Died for Lack of Health Insurance in 2008  - NAM .::. Size~: 35.66 KBNov 10 15:59
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://ninet.org/blog/Nov 10 15:59
phIRCe-localTitle:  Ryans Blog .::. Size~: 25.8 KBNov 10 15:59
DaemonFCbing cashback coyNov 10 15:59
DaemonFC:PNov 10 15:59
DaemonFCthe original is downNov 10 15:59
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DaemonFC*copyNov 10 16:09
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Nokia makes case that #OpenSource is dangerous and may kill you http://ur1.ca/ficbNov 10 16:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @LizMair: @msbellows Individual mandate is #corporatewelfare by the back door, disguised as "reform." #hcr #medicareforallNov 10 16:12
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*DaemonFC wondersNov 10 16:15
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @mparent77772: Democratic party infected by fake Democrats http://ur1.ca/fidf #hcr #hc09Nov 10 16:15
phIRCe-localTitle: Democratic party infected by fake Democrats, and that could kill health care reform « The D Spot .::. Size~: 58.01 KBNov 10 16:15
DaemonFCif scientes knows that Medicare is corporate welfareNov 10 16:15
DaemonFCor if he knows that food stamps are corporate welfareNov 10 16:15
Diablo-D3politics infected by morons, could kill clownsNov 10 16:16
Diablo-D3wont someone think of the clowns?Nov 10 16:16
schestowitzDaemonFC: heh, it's aliveNov 10 16:18
schestowitzI'm more interested in the censorship though, not the hackNov 10 16:19
DaemonFCDiablo-D3, What do you call something that pays big companies anything they want, without negotiation?Nov 10 16:19
DaemonFCMedicareNov 10 16:19
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Native Americans face limit to #healthcare access @AJEnglish #hcr #singlepayerNov 10 16:26
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] European Enlarged Board of Appeal Dismisses Claim that Pro-Software #Patents Judges Are Biased http://ping.fm/BdS3mNov 10 16:30
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Southern #California #Linux Expo Comes Soon http://ur1.ca/dcso http://ur1.ca/fifnNov 10 16:56
phIRCe-localTitle: The SCALE 8X Call For Papers | SCALE 8x - 2010 Southern California Linux Expo .::. Size~: 10.92 KBNov 10 16:56
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Server with Huge Amount of Data (400TB) Runs #GNU #Linux http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6895/1/Nov 10 16:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux as a Stress Reducer http://stephencuyos.com/?p=1495Nov 10 16:58
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #digiKam 1.0.0 Gets Closer to Final Release (Now #Beta 6) http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/484 #kdeNov 10 17:00
phIRCe-localTitle: digiKam 1.0.0-beta6 released... | digiKam - Photo Management Program .::. Size~: 53.13 KBNov 10 17:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Something about "DirtGirl World" on BBC Cbeebis that is disturbing. Can't put my finger on it.Nov 10 17:01
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Dragon Baaallll ZZZ... é magia total, Dragon Baaallll ZZZ em lutas contra o mal, Dragon Baaallll ZZZ... é uma força brutal :DNov 10 17:03
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Climbs to #1 Position in DistroWatch, Gets Good #Review http://ur1.ca/figy http://ur1.ca/fih0Nov 10 17:11
phIRCe-localTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 97.41 KBNov 10 17:11
DaemonFChmmm, you still get brutalized by Medicare Part DNov 10 17:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PCLinuxOS Magazine Has New Issue Out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/40983Nov 10 17:12
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DaemonFCI'd end up paying $36 a month for my most expensive medication which retails for $113Nov 10 17:12
DaemonFCthat's on top of $56 a month for that Part D planNov 10 17:12
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Good Reception (Fore)Seen for #Chrome OS (Linux) http://ur1.ca/fih4Nov 10 17:13
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Move from #Fedora 11 to #Ubuntu 9.10 Reveals Similarity http://bit.ly/3K1Ri9Nov 10 17:14
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canonical Meets Goals in Donations for #CreativeCommons http://ur1.ca/fih9Nov 10 17:16
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Makes GNU/Linux Software http://bit.ly/1FzhPENov 10 17:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SheevaPlug Gets #Debian #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/uanoONov 10 17:21
phIRCe-localTitle: Debian NAS project turns to SheevaPlug - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.93 KBNov 10 17:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Growth of #GNU #Linux Far Higher Than Reported http://bit.ly/BD4AJNov 10 17:22
phIRCe-localTitle: Where is the Linux desktop going? - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 139.12 KBNov 10 17:22
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OLPC Sub-notebooks with #GNU #Linux Reach More Destinations http://ur1.ca/fihw http://ur1.ca/fihxNov 10 17:24
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phIRCe-localTitle: Over 1.1 Million Sugar Activities in the Wild! - OLPC News .::. Size~: 68.73 KBNov 10 17:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pragmatic Reasons to "Hate" Non-Free Software http://bit.ly/26EeEyNov 10 17:27
phIRCe-localTitle: Why I hate proprietary software | We love Linux ! .::. Size~: 23.56 KBNov 10 17:27
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GPL Licensing Violations Claimed Common http://ur1.ca/fiihNov 10 17:30
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Germany Wants #OpenStandards, #ODF Plugfest Summarised http://ur1.ca/fgnz http://ur1.ca/fiixNov 10 17:39
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] OpenOffice.org Conference Details http://bit.ly/2T15jf #oooconNov 10 17:40
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Protest Against #Surveillance by British #Government http://ur1.ca/fij3Nov 10 17:41
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Call to Resist the Industrial #ACTA Conspiracy Against the Public http://bit.ly/185xE9Nov 10 17:41
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schestowitz[17:11] <DaemonFC> hmmm, you still get brutalized by Medicare Part DNov 10 17:51
schestowitzWhat's part D?Nov 10 17:51
DaemonFCschestowitz, prescription drugsNov 10 17:51
DaemonFCbetween your premium and deductible and the co-pay, it's not worth havingNov 10 17:52
DaemonFCin many cases, Walmart's generics are $4 for a 30 day supply and your co-pay on the Part D plan can be anythingNov 10 17:52
DaemonFCBlue Cross/Blue Shield's plan is $7 copay for genericsNov 10 17:52
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DaemonFCso you'll be paying them to not pay for any of your medication if all you take is genericsNov 10 17:53
DaemonFC:)Nov 10 17:53
schestowitzAh. Well, you're important to them... regular customerNov 10 17:55
DaemonFCschestowitz, There's a lifetime penalty though for not signing upNov 10 17:55
DaemonFC1% for every month you could have been on itNov 10 17:55
DaemonFCso if you miss the enrollment then decide you need it next year, you're paying 12% more for lifeNov 10 17:56
DaemonFCif you wait 8 years, your premium is double Nov 10 17:57
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's basically designed to force you to take it now because something may happen to you where you need it 20 years from now, but the companies that run the program can profiteer off you til thenNov 10 17:57
DaemonFCthey set their copays higher than what generics actually cost, and they set them so high on brand name stuff that you're paying half of that anywayNov 10 17:58
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schestowitzbblNov 10 18:00
schestowitzg2g sorryNov 10 18:00
DaemonFChmmm, closest thing I found to a dental plan is for $10 a month more the Humana plan gives you $1,000 worth of comprehensive dental and 2 cleanings and 2 oral exams for freeNov 10 18:05
DaemonFCthat's not horrible I guess, but dental work racks up the bill pretty quickly Nov 10 18:05
DaemonFCI would guess that it may cover one or two drills and fills or somethingNov 10 18:06
DaemonFCbeats not having dental at all I guessNov 10 18:06
DaemonFCI guess I may take a Humana plan, my head hurts from reading this crap for 3 hoursNov 10 18:07
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DaemonFCOriginal Medicare has no vision, dental, or hearing coverageNov 10 18:08
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DaemonFCmakes me miss work and real insurance :PNov 10 18:09
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Boas twitters....Nov 10 18:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Akon - Lonely" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5bckNov 10 18:14
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:14
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Breaking Benjamin - The Diary of Jane - Music Video" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5bniNov 10 18:18
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:18
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dell launching Zino HD (Mac mini-a-like) in UK with Ubuntu as an install option. http://bit.ly/2yupfY #fbNov 10 18:19
phIRCe-localTitle: Dell Zino HD mini desktop PC launches in the UK - Pocket-lint .::. Size~: 38.94 KBNov 10 18:19
fewaDaemonFC, HR 676 covers dental :PNov 10 18:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] "Something's getting in the way. Something's just about to break."Nov 10 18:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] "I will try to find my place in the diary of Jane"Nov 10 18:22
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Breaking Benjamin - The Diary of Jane - Music Video" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5bulNov 10 18:22
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:22
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fewaschestowitz, part D has a part in the legislation that says that the Government cannot bargain for prices on pharmaceuticalsNov 10 18:25
fewamonopoly patented pharmaceuticalsNov 10 18:25
fewaletting big PhRMA decide what it costs to live, or how much random they will demand out of GovtNov 10 18:26
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] yeaaaahhh!!! :D:D:D:D:D ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5c9aNov 10 18:29
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:29
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trmancoschestowitz: you can remove me from bnc if you wantNov 10 18:30
trmancowhen I start posting foss news, I'll say something :-PNov 10 18:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Facing a new world architecture http://ur1.ca/fimm George Soros, #capitalism #war #democracy #bailoutNov 10 18:32
phIRCe-localTitle: Facing a new world architecture | MichaelMoore.com .::. Size~: 53.04 KBNov 10 18:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Linkin Park - What I've Done [Official Music Video]" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5cimNov 10 18:34
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Help me hit the 50 listener mark, please RT or RB thanks :D ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5cpaNov 10 18:37
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Não é normal eu andar a ouvir rock mais pronto :S Faz bem recordar os velhos tempos (quando tinha 16)Nov 10 18:39
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Bloodhound Gang Bad Touch" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5cxzNov 10 18:41
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:41
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] "You and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals So let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel" hahaha... what a song :D Old times :)Nov 10 18:42
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Linkin Park - Numb - Official Video (HQ)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5dg4Nov 10 18:50
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5dpwNov 10 18:55
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 18:55
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] fds, browser empancou :SNov 10 19:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Vou jantar (jan.tar.gz) autoria do @brunomiguelNov 10 19:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @carlmalamud: Adobe OK as one of several final-form formats, but as single exclusive solution, we loose a lot Much FUD chasing marketshareNov 10 19:05
DaemonFCschestowitz, http://www.suddenlysenior.com/Images/medicarehog375.gifNov 10 19:07
phIRCe-localTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 10 19:07
DaemonFCheheNov 10 19:07
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] backNov 10 19:08
DaemonFChttp://www.suddenlysenior.com/medicareadvantage.htmlNov 10 19:08
phIRCe-localTitle: Suddenly Senior. Medicare Advantage Program. Advantage to whom? Not senior citizens. .::. Size~: 33.18 KBNov 10 19:08
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "The Outfield-Your Love" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5emxNov 10 19:11
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 19:11
DaemonFC"Nov 10 19:11
DaemonFCTo assure that the "free-market" proves superior to Medicare, last year's Medicare overhaul included extra payments to HMOs of about $46 billion over 10 yearsNov 10 19:11
DaemonFCWhile this is peanuts compared with the $400 billion windfall profits the bill gifted outright to the drug companies, still $46 billion is real money. It has to come from somewhere.Nov 10 19:11
DaemonFCIn their rush to prove private industry's HMOs superior to Medicare, it's a pretty good bet that Congress is stealing the dough from Medicare's beleaguered budget and your 17.5 percent Medicare premium increase."Nov 10 19:11
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] "I don't wanna lose your love tonight"Nov 10 19:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] "Somethin' in my mind's not makin' sense It's been a while since we were all alone. I can't hide the way I'm feelin'"Nov 10 19:13
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Queen - I want to break free" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5f4iNov 10 19:19
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 19:19
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] "I've fallen in love [...] And this time I know it's for real. I've fallen in love, yeah God knows, God knows I've fallen in love"Nov 10 19:21
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Lá se foi o firefox outra vez, fdsNov 10 19:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Breaking Benjamin - The Diary of Jane - Music Video" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5fjwNov 10 19:26
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 19:26
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Breaking Benjamin - The Diary of Jane - Music Video" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g5fr7Nov 10 19:29
phIRCe-localTitle: Blip.fm | What are you listening to? .::. Size~: 27.7 KBNov 10 19:29
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] I feel ignored...Nov 10 19:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] "Tony is 4% lucky today!" pffff....Nov 10 19:47
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schestowitzThis show is great... http://linuxbasement.com/Nov 10 20:49
phIRCe-localTitle: Linux Basement | Linux Lurking Beneath .::. Size~: 32.93 KBNov 10 20:49
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schestowitztrmanco: don't worry about itNov 10 20:52
trmancookNov 10 20:53
schestowitzWinter sucksNov 10 20:58
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/10/mono_visual_studio_plug_in/Nov 10 20:59
phIRCe-localTitle: Visual Studio gets Linux dose with Mono • The Register .::. Size~: 28.21 KBNov 10 20:59
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schestowitzhttp://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/10/government_web_fail/Nov 10 21:04
phIRCe-localTitle: Brown's Building Britain website fail • The Register .::. Size~: 26.88 KBNov 10 21:05
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] VERY disappointed. Despite having signed up for every notification I could find they didn't tell me when the U2 tickets went on sale. FAILNov 10 21:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] On sale, off, sale they kept changing. AUCTION? You gotta be kidding. $500+ for a pair of tickets behind the stage? All that's left? WTF?Nov 10 21:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] After 25 years I think I need to find a new favorite band. I'm not rich enough to see a U2 concert. That's sad. :( Very sad.Nov 10 21:13
schestowitzhttp://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1068_signs.jpgNov 10 21:13
phIRCe-localTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 10 21:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] I really wanted to take my wife to see a real stadium show by a big band which she's never seen before.Nov 10 21:19
schestowitzhttp://mumbrella.com.au/murdoch-well-probably-remove-our-sites-from-googles-index-11366Nov 10 21:21
phIRCe-localTitle: Murdoch: Well probably remove our sites from Googles index - mUmBRELLA .::. Size~: 133.67 KBNov 10 21:21
ThistleWebI just wish Murdoch would stop threatening to kill his online business and actually do itNov 10 21:22
schestowitztessier: did you see http://new.music.yahoo.com/u2/news/outrage-over-wall-blocking-free-u2-berlin-concert--61995930 ?Nov 10 21:23
phIRCe-localTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 10 21:23
ThistleWebmaybe he's trying to make others think its inevitable and jump with him, to avoid anti trust charges when they all jump togetherNov 10 21:23
ThistleWebor avoid it failing as only he jumpsNov 10 21:23
schestowitzYeah, he just talks....Nov 10 21:24
ThistleWebI hope he blocks all the parasites who send him clicksNov 10 21:25
ThistleWebif he does, the IQ of the nation will start to riseNov 10 21:25
ThistleWebhis influence will fadeNov 10 21:25
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/08/rupert-murdoch-vows.htmlNov 10 21:29
phIRCe-localTitle: Rupert Murdoch vows to take all of Newscorp's websites out of Google, abolish fair use, tear heads off of adorable baby animals - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 200.87 KBNov 10 21:29
schestowitzHe owns The Times too, right?  All of it?Nov 10 21:29
ThistleWebI did think it was very telling that he'd want to abolish fair use altogetherNov 10 21:31
ThistleWebI wonder if that includes his journos rehashing stories from other news sourcesNov 10 21:31
ThistleWebwhich would also be fair useNov 10 21:31
ThistleWebI assume he wouldn't want to be a hypocriteNov 10 21:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @bakere19: 10 arrested at Lieberman's (R-CT) ofc - sit-in re his oppostn to #publicOption #hcr http://bit.ly/2ykzrW #hc #healthcareNov 10 21:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @bakere19 : 10 arrested at Lieberman's (R-CT) ofc - sit-in re his oppostn to #publicOption #hcr http://bit.ly/2ykzrW #hc #healthcareNov 10 21:34
tessierschestowitz: YesNov 10 21:34
tessierschestowitz: Today has a thoroughly crappy day. :( I even have a sick stomache today because of something I ate last night. :(Nov 10 21:35
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schestowitzhttp://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-caffeine-update/Nov 10 21:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Expect Caffeine after the holidays .::. Size~: 44.4 KBNov 10 21:36
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/11/10/the-traffic-news-corp-would-lose-without-googleNov 10 21:38
phIRCe-localTitle: The Traffic News Corp. Would Lose Without Google | WebProNews .::. Size~: 37.69 KBNov 10 21:38
schestowitzMaybe it's true that computer gaming is on the decline; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8351804.stmNov 10 21:40
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 80.29 KBNov 10 21:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC NEWS | England | Wear | Noisy sex woman loses appeal bid http://tinyurl.com/yagopogNov 10 21:47
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC NEWS | England | Wear | Noisy sex woman loses appeal bid .::. Size~: 46 KBNov 10 21:47
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] The original #publicoption http://ur1.ca/fizn would have covered 129m Americans. Current bill only 6m #hcr #singlepayer http://ur1.ca/fib7Nov 10 21:50
phIRCe-localTitle:   Bait and switch: How the “public option” was sold - PNHP's Official Blog .::. Size~: 56.43 KBNov 10 21:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Russia fires police YouTube whistleblower http://ping.fm/n40AL Truth is bad.Nov 10 21:51
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MrFHey Roy, it's Mikey Mr F 2009!Nov 10 21:53
schestowitzhttp://techdirt.com/articles/20091109/1304246858.shtmlNov 10 21:54
phIRCe-localTitle: Is Murdoch's Move Against Google Really About Twitter And Facebook? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 75.43 KBNov 10 21:54
schestowitzHey, MrFNov 10 21:54
schestowitzDid you watch that video?Nov 10 21:54
MrFAt the weekend matey, i did some step ups today!Nov 10 21:57
schestowitzWhy put so much effort into it?Nov 10 22:02
schestowitzYou've won alreadyNov 10 22:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ubuntu 9.10 broke my laptop disk! Is what I might say if I had not found this bug first http://bit.ly/3rsE9UNov 10 22:02
phIRCe-localTitle: Bug #445852 in linux (Ubuntu): “SSD stall during boot” .::. Size~: 100.59 KBNov 10 22:02
schestowitzAmanda will buy a Stanley cupNov 10 22:02
MrFWhen The Schestowits is still around anything is possible!Nov 10 22:02
schestowitzNot unless you break a legNov 10 22:02
MrFwell i broke an arm last year!Nov 10 22:03
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schestowitzYikes: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzY4NQNov 10 22:04
phIRCe-localTitle: [Phoronix] A New Release Of GRUB 2.0 Fixes Security Issue .::. Size~: 15.91 KBNov 10 22:04
schestowitzMrF: Barcelona tripNov 10 22:05
schestowitzThis year I pick my trophyNov 10 22:05
schestowitz3rd one for 1st placeNov 10 22:05
schestowitzYours will be the 3rd alsoNov 10 22:05
schestowitzDuopoly...Nov 10 22:05
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] hilarious article on medical marijuana in california http://is.gd/4S4p7Nov 10 22:11
phIRCe-localTitle: Medical Marijuana in California: Clinics Beat Dealers - TIME .::. Size~: 51.55 KBNov 10 22:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Fixe...Nov 10 22:16
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] just back from museum computer people meetup that got slightly overwhelmed by wikipedians. productive and good! photos to comeNov 10 22:25
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @glynmoody: Nobel Prize-winning scientists urge Congress to ensure free online access to federally funded research - http://ur1.ca/fj3eNov 10 22:30
phIRCe-localTitle: Nobel Prize-winning scientists urge Congress to act to ensure free online access to federally funded research results (Allian... .::. Size~: 14.73 KBNov 10 22:30
schestowitzhttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/287594-cs-to-regain-swag-through-ubuntuNov 10 22:30
phIRCe-localTitle: C's To Regain Swag Through Ubuntu  | Bleacher Report .::. Size~: 88.89 KBNov 10 22:30
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schestowitzhttp://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/11/sunoracle-deal-block-shows-eu.htmlNov 10 22:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst To be honest I had no issues. I will reserve giving my opinion of Win7 until my testing has finished!Nov 10 22:50
schestowitzHehehe: "It will be the first device that uses an open-source Linux operating system." http://www.thelatestnews.in/the-release-of-nokia-n900-is-postponed-to-november/21622.htmlNov 10 22:50
phIRCe-localTitle: The Release of Nokia N900 Is Postponed to November  | Latest News .::. Size~: 45.42 KBNov 10 22:50
schestowitz_goblin: did you find out what it can do that other OSes can?Nov 10 22:51
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst No problem...Its nice to hear from you!Nov 10 22:51
_goblinschestowitz: Windows 7?Nov 10 22:53
_goblinah...Nov 10 22:53
_goblinI'll reserve judgement until the article...Nov 10 22:54
_goblindon't want to be accused of being unfair to Mother MicrosoftNov 10 22:54
_goblinor a Linux zealotNov 10 22:54
schestowitzDoes the young lad know how to remove mono from Vista 7?Nov 10 22:55
_goblinlol...Nov 10 22:55
_goblinI got alot of email hate for that one...Nov 10 22:55
schestowitzSome parents teach their kids how to fish, others show them how to remove monoNov 10 22:55
_goblinseems like the MS faithful don't like a cuter kid promoting Linux with an Im a PC type advert!Nov 10 22:55
schestowitz_goblin: E-mail for child abuse?Nov 10 22:55
_goblinnah...Nov 10 22:56
_goblinnothing like that....Nov 10 22:56
schestowitzThe "I'm a PC kids" are retarted... let me show you.Nov 10 22:56
_goblinits was along the lines of "Do you think we believe a 1 1/4 year old knows how to use a computer"Nov 10 22:56
_goblinsome people are so slow....Nov 10 22:56
_goblindid they really think I was trying to say a 1 year old could use a PC?Nov 10 22:57
schestowitznm I can't find it...Nov 10 22:57
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuZkQvQGIS8Nov 10 22:57
_goblinthat picture (which I presume is obvious) was taken randomly in the garden during August....I used it because it was the most defiant looking one of the lot.!Nov 10 22:58
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_goblinI always think that bearded man at the end of the advert was a dig at RMSNov 10 22:59
schestowitzActually, beards are not uselessNov 10 22:59
schestowitzThey are naturalNov 10 22:59
schestowitzYou could argue that "shaving" is "useless"Nov 10 23:00
*schestowitz has no beadNov 10 23:00
schestowitz*beardNov 10 23:00
_goblinI have a Gnutee beard.Nov 10 23:00
*MinceR has no beardNov 10 23:01
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acad2heyNov 10 23:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] aww! RT@denny "I'm wearing a pink dress to school today mum" http://bit.ly/4dUjoxNov 10 23:05
phIRCe-localTitle: The Pink Dress .::. Size~: 70.01 KBNov 10 23:05
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] subversion installed on solaris 10 x86 perfectly ... compiled from source. forget package rubbish.Nov 10 23:08
schestowitzhttp://www.secuobs.com/secumail/snsecumail/msg17483.shtmlNov 10 23:09
phIRCe-localTitle:  [SA37296] Linux Kernel 2.4 Multiple Vulnerabilities  .::. Size~: 83.8 KBNov 10 23:09
schestowitztessier: http://www.cmscritic.com/archives/194-Plone-wins-Best-Other-Open-Source-CMS-Award.htmlNov 10 23:12
phIRCe-localTitle: Plone wins Best Other Open Source CMS Award - CMS Critic - CMS Reviews, Listings, Articles and News .::. Size~: 36.99 KBNov 10 23:12
tessierschestowitz: Saw that. Might be a decent CMS but it's not so hot to develop custom apps for. Nov 10 23:18
tessierWhich is why I have gone to django.Nov 10 23:18
schestowitz Scott M. Fulton, III added politics again where it does not quite belong....... http://www.betanews.com/article/Its-the-US-vs-the-EU-over-OracleSun-and-the-meaning-of-open-source/1257872920Nov 10 23:19
phIRCe-localTitle: It's the US vs. the EU over Oracle+Sun and the meaning of 'open source' | Tech Policy & Law News - Betanews .::. Size~: 28.12 KBNov 10 23:19
schestowitztessier: oh, I didn't know you had left itNov 10 23:19
tessierMy personal site is still on it. Just because I haven't had time to migrate it.Nov 10 23:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.pmabox.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35:how-to-hack-your-neigbour-wireless&catid=10:icelanNov 10 23:32
schestowitztessier: yes, that's how I remembered itNov 10 23:33
schestowitzhttp://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7605/1.htmlNov 10 23:35
tessierIt is funny to me that MySQL (an "open source" project) is unintentionally killing Sun which traditionally hasn't been a competitor in the db field.Nov 10 23:39
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @DOMINICDADAMO: Sanders and Maddow Discuss #HealthCare Legislation http://bit.ly/1szC9j #hc09 #hcr #p2Nov 10 23:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Sunny afternoon. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/19393.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/533109.htmlNov 10 23:41
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @jeremyscahill: sry for the blitz of blackwater tweets, folks. i know it is annoying if you follow me for the fashion & food advice ;) LOLNov 10 23:41
phIRCe-localTitle: reddragdiva | Sunny afternoon. .::. Size~: 29.27 KBNov 10 23:41
phIRCe-localTitle: reddragdiva: Sunny afternoon. .::. Size~: 20.11 KBNov 10 23:41
schestowitzAwk vs. Perl http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/awk-vs.perl.htmlNov 10 23:43
phIRCe-localTitle: Awk vs. Perl .::. Size~: 22.8 KBNov 10 23:43
schestowitztessier: Sun should have left it alone and there would be an IPO for mysql ab, probably :-DNov 10 23:44
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @RobinGrantham: Started Universal health care in Germany. "Call it socialism or whatever you like. It's all the same to me."~Bismarck #hcrNov 10 23:44
schestowitzWhat is this KDE theme? http://maketecheasier.com/using-kate-as-a-web-editor/2009/11/09Nov 10 23:47
phIRCe-localTitle: Using Kate As a Web Editor  Make Tech Easier .::. Size~: 43.82 KBNov 10 23:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @RobinGrantham: How many doctors would we have if there were only for-profit schools and for-profit books? #hcr #healthcare #singlepayerNov 10 23:52
schestowitzSome people still dislike kde4 for its design... weird. Wonders from a KDE fan and developer about some KDE design choices < http://www.freehackers.org/thomas/2009/11/10/wonders-from-a-kde-fan-and-developer-about-some-kde-design-choices/ >Nov 10 23:54
phIRCe-localTitle:   Wonders from a KDE fan and developer about some KDE design choices | Thomas Capricelli .::. Size~: 50.8 KBNov 10 23:54
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @RobinGrantham: How many doctors would we have if schools had to turn a 10% profit or have Wall Street abandon ship? #hcr #healthcareNov 10 23:55

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