Boycott Novell logo

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: November 22nd, 2009

schestowitzBrilliant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa-4E8ZDj9s&feature=PlayList&p=4E7EDD1A1E985ACD&index=24Nov 22 00:07
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, I saw thatNov 22 00:08
schestowitzI read stallman.orgNov 22 00:08
sebsebsebschestowitz: thought maybe I had seen something  computer related,  before you had, but I guess not thenNov 22 00:09
sebsebsebschestowitz: I guess any BBC stuff I read will  be the case thoughNov 22 00:09
sebsebsebschestowitz: the amount of links you give out here and thatNov 22 00:09
amarsh04first posting by rms that I remember was a usenet post entitled "The C shell considered harmful"Nov 22 00:10
sebsebsebyou must spend loads of time doing that, ever get paid anything for it?Nov 22 00:10
sebsebsebschestowitz: do you get paid to blog or not?Nov 22 00:10
cubezzzeveryone gets paidNov 22 00:12
cubezzzjust not very much :)Nov 22 00:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and another Windows promotion Twitter bot pops out of the woodwork... @windowsalert another one needs reporting...things that bad MS?Nov 22 00:19
_goblinthats 2 new ones in as many minutesNov 22 00:19
_goblinshame that these bots are mostly RT bad publicity.....Nov 22 00:19
*hrm_ (i=425c4283@gateway/web/freenode/x-igbvxhaudiqzvljk) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 00:24
hrm_is this the best place for hating on novell?Nov 22 00:25
*hrm_ has quit (Client Quit)Nov 22 00:26
_goblinlolNov 22 00:28
_goblinhrm failed in whatever they were intendingNov 22 00:29
*zambozi (n=gruts@124.176.69.216) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 00:38
_goblinyawn....Nov 22 00:39
_goblinhello ZamboziNov 22 00:39
_goblinsilent type?Nov 22 00:42
_goblinzambozi: How are you today?Nov 22 00:42
zambozido you want something ???> or are you just showing off you reading skills ?Nov 22 00:43
*Tallken has quit ("Leaving")Nov 22 00:43
_goblinzambozi: No need for that, I just thought if you joined the channel you may want to chat...Nov 22 00:43
_goblinzambozi: Im pleased to see though you have reading skills....whilst you remained silent, I did wonder.Nov 22 00:44
zamboziyes, I like to chat with intelligent people who know what they are talking about,  so no I dont really want to chat with you :)Nov 22 00:44
_goblinzambozi: ah....and youve gleamed all that within a few minutes have you?Nov 22 00:44
_goblinzambozi: by staying silent...Nov 22 00:45
_goblinzambozi: you must be of awesome intellect.Nov 22 00:45
_goblinzambozi: I'm certainly not worthy.Nov 22 00:45
zambozidamn straightNov 22 00:45
_goblinlol...Nov 22 00:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] If anyone wants to speak with someone of awesome intellect (providing you too have godlike IQ) get over to BN and speak with Zambozi! #failNov 22 00:48
zamboziso at least you have good powers of deduction :)Nov 22 00:48
_goblinof course...Nov 22 00:48
_goblinso who do you think intelligent enough to speak with...I'll go and get them.Nov 22 00:48
_goblina Lins*** member perhaps....Nov 22 00:49
zamboziI dont know anyone from there, and dont go there, and I dont care for what they do. so noNov 22 00:49
_goblinso how do you know what I refering to?  how do you know where "there" is?Nov 22 00:50
_goblinso I repeat....who in this channel is worthy for you to speak with?Nov 22 00:50
_goblinI'll go get them.Nov 22 00:50
zamboziI know of the site, i checked it out once, found it boring and never bothered again.Nov 22 00:50
_goblinlolNov 22 00:50
_goblinliarNov 22 00:50
*andyprough (i=424476dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-aucnnbibwrnavyct) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 00:51
_goblinpoor poor attemptNov 22 00:51
_goblinyou know how I know?Nov 22 00:51
zamboziwhatever, but nice comeback :)Nov 22 00:51
_goblin;)Nov 22 00:51
zambozidid it take you long to think of it ?Nov 22 00:51
andyproughdo you really talk about anti-novell stuff here?Nov 22 00:51
zambozior do you have it written down for anyone you dont agree with ?Nov 22 00:51
zambozisome do.Nov 22 00:51
_goblinhi hrnNov 22 00:51
_goblinlol...Nov 22 00:52
_goblinwho is worthy here for you to speak with?Nov 22 00:52
_goblin(are you sure you can read)Nov 22 00:52
_goblinI'll go and get them.Nov 22 00:52
zambozithats mabey what im here to find out, mabey someone not very very biased and able to take on new idea's, know anyone that meets that ?Nov 22 00:53
*andyprough has quit (Client Quit)Nov 22 00:54
_goblinso instead of choosing a general IT channel (which would have a more diverse range of people) you chose BN IRC?  Im beginning to think you are not intelligent enough to speak with me....Nov 22 00:54
_goblinhere we talk about Linux/FOSSNov 22 00:54
*Declination has quit (Nick collision from services.)Nov 22 00:54
zambozikeep thinking then, you'll work it out eventuallyNov 22 00:54
_goblinits reasonable to expect that the view will come from a FOSS not proprietary POV.Nov 22 00:54
_goblindon't need to...I know where you are from.....Nov 22 00:55
_goblinI hope you are using a proxy.....Nov 22 00:55
zambozithat's right so mabey my interested is about linux/Foss Nov 22 00:55
zamboziwhere am I from ?Nov 22 00:55
_goblinyour'e now on a PG blocklist...Nov 22 00:55
_goblinlets look at the facts......Nov 22 00:55
zamboziyes lets !! and provide them as facts if they areNov 22 00:55
_goblina reasonable person, when spoken to would have a conversation....not you.....you have knowledge of Lin^^^ and knew what I was talking about, are not able to name someone who you believe is intelligent enough to speak with you....Nov 22 00:56
_goblinI can go on...its basics....Nov 22 00:56
_goblinyep that sounds like a new and curious user here.Nov 22 00:56
zambozilike FACT: a great deal of the Linux you are running right now runs Novell code, yet you do not boycott Linux !Nov 22 00:56
_goblinhere we goNov 22 00:57
zamboziso they are you facts ??Nov 22 00:57
_goblinheres the awesome intellect.Nov 22 00:57
_goblinI don't boycott anything fool....Nov 22 00:57
zamboziso everyone  you dont agree with you say they are from linsux ?Nov 22 00:57
_goblinI choose what I want on the basis of whats best for me...Nov 22 00:57
_goblinlol....Nov 22 00:57
_goblinsee?Nov 22 00:57
zamboziso where are you "facts" again ?Nov 22 00:57
_goblinwho had the awesome intellect....Nov 22 00:57
_goblinhad you worked out immediately.Nov 22 00:58
_goblinI don't know if I disagree with you as I don't know your POV.....Nov 22 00:58
_goblinlolNov 22 00:58
_goblinthink about it.Nov 22 00:58
zamboziyes, I worked out  your intellect very quicky _goblin,,, Nov 22 00:58
_goblinim sure.Nov 22 00:58
_goblinby asking how you were?Nov 22 00:58
zamboziso you're "facts" are for me to "just think about it".. oh ok.. Nov 22 00:58
_goblinyep I can see that...Nov 22 00:59
*Declination (n=ryan@129.110.192.5) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 00:59
_goblinwell I don't know about anyone else but you have convinced me.Nov 22 00:59
zambozi"there are WMD's in IRAQ, I can prove it, it's a fact JUST THINK ABOUT IT"... LOLNov 22 01:00
_goblinI was telling you to think about the point that I couldn't disagree with you about anything since I don't know your point of view....Nov 22 01:00
_goblinYour words "so everyone  you dont agree with you say they are from linsux ?"Nov 22 01:01
_goblinplease think about what you type....Nov 22 01:01
_goblinand also think about why, I challenged you over any of the other silent handles that have joined this channel over this evening......Nov 22 01:02
zamboziif you dont know my point of view, how would you know if I was "from" anywhere else or not ? why would you accuse me of being from linusx ? so you either do know my point of view or you are the one lying Nov 22 01:02
_goblinI never said you were from Lins&&Nov 22 01:02
_goblinplease tell me where I said that.Nov 22 01:02
zambozigeee this evening !! ive been out all day, ive just got home. Nov 22 01:02
_goblinI offered to get you a Lin*** member as I assumed you may think them more intelligent....Nov 22 01:03
_goblingive it up zambozi....nobody is buying.Nov 22 01:03
zambozi[11:46] <_goblin> a Lins*** member perhaps....Nov 22 01:04
_goblinyes....read it properly....Nov 22 01:04
_goblin"so who do you think intelligent enough to speak with...I'll go and get them."Nov 22 01:04
_goblinand then I followed withNov 22 01:05
_goblina Lins*** member perhaps....Nov 22 01:05
_goblinI thought you were clever?Nov 22 01:05
_goblinI can see we work on two totally different levels of intellect.....maybe we shouldn't talk to each other....Nov 22 01:05
_goblincave quid dicis, quando, et cui.Nov 22 01:05
zambozigeee _goblin if you're trying to wind me up, you're doing a piss poor job. Nov 22 01:06
_goblinwell your'e swearing so its obvious you are angry.Nov 22 01:06
_goblinI wasnt aware I was winding you up....Nov 22 01:06
_goblinits you telling lies....Nov 22 01:06
_goblinnot me....Nov 22 01:06
zamboziswearing ?? lolNov 22 01:06
zambozioh ok, fair enough, you winNov 22 01:06
_goblintheres no winnersNov 22 01:07
_goblinthats childishNov 22 01:07
zamboziyes I know, Nov 22 01:07
_goblinlike resorting to swearing.......Nov 22 01:07
zamboziwhat swearing ?Nov 22 01:07
_goblingrow up...Nov 22 01:07
zambozinow there is a well thought out and articulate retort if I even heard one :) you must be that awesome intellect Nov 22 01:10
_goblinnever said I was...but compared to you......hows Oceana this time of year or is that just an insecure proxy?Nov 22 01:11
zamboziso lay down my Queen, and resign, you far too good for me.Nov 22 01:11
_goblinLike I say...grow up...Nov 22 01:11
_goblinyou are now making a spectacle of yourself.Nov 22 01:11
zambozigot that written down as well ?Nov 22 01:12
MinceRwow, mutex found his way backNov 22 01:12
_goblinyeah...Nov 22 01:12
*MinceR sets ban on *!*n=gruts@124.176.69.*Nov 22 01:12
*MinceR has kicked zambozi from #boycottnovell (you're not welcome here)Nov 22 01:12
cubezzzthat was mutex?Nov 22 01:13
MinceRindeedNov 22 01:14
cubezzzyes I see the style now :)Nov 22 01:16
cubezzzhe really needs a new hobbyNov 22 01:16
cubezzznormally in chess terms you would lay down your _King_Nov 22 01:17
_goblinthats what I thought....Nov 22 01:17
_goblinmaybe the really "clever" people lay down the queenNov 22 01:18
_goblinhe really is special.Nov 22 01:18
cubezzz;-)Nov 22 01:18
schestowitzsebsebseb: no, I'm not paidNov 22 01:19
schestowitzHeh.Nov 22 01:22
schestowitzMutex was backNov 22 01:22
schestowitz[00:38] --> zambozi has joined this channel (n=gruts@124.176.69.216).Nov 22 01:22
schestowitzYep, even his namesigNov 22 01:22
schestowitzSame story...Nov 22 01:22
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and now Zambozi has been kicked from the channel.. A known Wintroll...are MS getting desperate or is Zambozi just "special" #failNov 22 01:23
MinceRnamesig?Nov 22 01:23
schestowitz"Was on lins**, found it boring..."Nov 22 01:23
cubezzzlinsux must really be the dregsNov 22 01:23
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Andre responds to me on Twitter, he links to my blog (and comments) yet he blocks me from following his Twitter? #windows #microsoft #vistaNov 22 01:26
schestowitzDone: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/21/smartbooks-and-f13/Nov 22 01:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Links 21/11/2009: Smartbooks and Fedora 13 Plans Appear | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 157.86 KBNov 22 01:26
schestowitzNot bad for a Saturday :-)Nov 22 01:26
_goblin"linsux must really be the dregs" - I don't think it ever left...that and one of their "l33t" members gives me the heads up of what they are doing....Nov 22 01:27
_goblinthey say "no honour amongst thieves"...how true that is.Nov 22 01:28
cubezzzI remember some guy complaining that "someone stole the stuff he stole"Nov 22 01:28
_goblinlolNov 22 01:28
_goblinthats quite deep for a Linsux member...Nov 22 01:28
_goblinits actually correct in law....sort of...Nov 22 01:29
_goblintheft comes down to constructive possession, so it is indeed possible to steal stolen goods...Nov 22 01:29
cubezzzso what does the thief do, complain to the police? :)Nov 22 01:30
_goblinyep....although it would be rather silly....Nov 22 01:30
_goblin"To dishonestly appropriate property belonging to the other with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it." Sec(1) Theft ActNov 22 01:31
_goblinand to receive it in the knowledge its stolen would be a "handling" offence. Nov 22 01:32
_goblinof course relevant to UK law only....Nov 22 01:32
_goblinnot sure about elsewhere...Nov 22 01:32
*Declination has quit ()Nov 22 02:10
*Declination (n=ryan@cpe-76-184-158-243.tx.res.rr.com) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 02:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Desktop Screenshots Competition Launched http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/coolest-desktop-screenshot-wins-prize submit nowNov 22 02:16
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Coolest Desktop Screenshot Wins Prize | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 34.86 KBNov 22 02:16
_goblinhello declinationNov 22 02:16
DeclinationhelloNov 22 02:16
_goblinare you a Linux user?Nov 22 02:16
Declinationat workNov 22 02:17
_goblinwhats your poison?Nov 22 02:17
_goblin(distro)Nov 22 02:17
Declinationfedora 9Nov 22 02:17
_goblincool..Nov 22 02:17
_goblinYour'e lucky to be in a workplace that uses Linux...Nov 22 02:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Linux 2.6.32 #Storage http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Kernel-Log-Coming-in-2-6-32-Part-3-Storage-864376.htmlNov 22 02:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Kernel Log: Coming in 2.6.32 (Part 3) - Storage - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 65.6 KBNov 22 02:18
_goblindon't use it at home though?Nov 22 02:18
DeclinationI had one of the Ubuntu Dell m1330n's didn't work out for meNov 22 02:19
_goblintoo bad...I had a Linux netbook but had to return it due to incompat with a BB dongle....Nov 22 02:19
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PulseAudio #Phonon and #Amarok 2.2.1 Now in #KDE4 http://ur1.ca/gaj3 http://ur1.ca/gaj4Nov 22 02:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: PulseAudio Phonon Support now in KDE trunk and heading towards 4.4 «  Colin.Guthr.ie .::. Size~: 43.63 KBNov 22 02:20
MinceRfor whom does dell hell work out?Nov 22 02:20
MinceRbesides michael dell, that isNov 22 02:20
schestowitzNot shareholdersNov 22 02:20
schestowitzBut, MinceR, they do us more good than harmNov 22 02:20
schestowitzThey also sell Red Hat serversNov 22 02:20
MinceRwell, they didn't do me more good than harm, that's for sureNov 22 02:20
schestowitzIt's Lenovo that's in bed with Novell and Microsoft (patnens and all)Nov 22 02:20
MinceRi blew a lot of money on a dell craptopNov 22 02:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Windows #Games Run Fine in #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/gaj5 http://ur1.ca/gaj6Nov 22 02:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: LinuxGames - Embrace your inner penguin .::. Size~: 15.06 KBNov 22 02:21
MinceRat least lenovo knows how to build laptopsNov 22 02:21
MinceRunlike dellNov 22 02:21
schestowitzLenovo was taking IBM's rigs biz and had MICROSOFT EXECUTIVES enterNov 22 02:21
schestowitzSo now Lenovo is a bit of a drone of Microsoft, selling StinkPadsNov 22 02:21
MinceRat least they aren't selling laptop-shaped chunks of shitNov 22 02:21
MinceRunlike dellNov 22 02:21
schestowitz*LOL*Nov 22 02:21
schestowitz"laptop-shaped chunks of shit"Nov 22 02:21
MinceRwhere even the hinges can't withstand the above "extreme" load of being opened and closed twice a dayNov 22 02:22
schestowitzWhat's the probability of douche being shapes like a transistors kingdom?Nov 22 02:22
schestowitz1^-1 googolplex?Nov 22 02:22
MinceRand where the keyboard falls apart in less than 2 years and then you find out it isn't even under warrantyNov 22 02:22
schestowitzLMAONov 22 02:23
schestowitzStop it, my guts hurt :-)Nov 22 02:23
schestowitzDell gives you hell, you end up with just a shell cause Ubuntu fell and tech support in the far east won't tellNov 22 02:27
MinceRwell doneNov 22 02:27
schestowitzThe Hell Bell songNov 22 02:27
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gentoo Power Explained http://invalidmagic.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/linux-love-gentoo-love/Nov 22 02:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: linux love, gentoo love! «  Invalidmagic's Blog .::. Size~: 17.18 KBNov 22 02:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tips for Migration to #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux http://mybroadband.co.za/blogs/2009/11/20/10-easy-steps-to-ubuntu-freedom/Nov 22 02:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 10 easy steps to Ubuntu freedom | Blogs about Broadband, Technology, Telecoms and the Internet .::. Size~: 31.31 KBNov 22 02:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Plans Surface, Fedora 12 Shows Huge Performance Boosts http://ur1.ca/gajp http://ur1.ca/gajqNov 22 02:34
phIRCe-BNcTitle: [Phoronix] Fedora 13 May Support Btrfs System Rollbacks .::. Size~: 16.84 KBNov 22 02:34
phIRCe-BNcTitle: [Phoronix] Intel Linux Graphics Shine With Fedora 12 .::. Size~: 18.97 KBNov 22 02:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux -based #Pogoplug Released http://ur1.ca/gaju http://ur1.ca/gajvNov 22 02:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Second generation Pogoplug adds more USB ports - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.68 KBNov 22 02:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Low-cost NAS gains USB ports, social net sync - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.46 KBNov 22 02:35
*Declination has quit ()Nov 22 02:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Comes to More Boards from #Acrosser and Blue Chip http://ur1.ca/gak0 http://ur1.ca/gak1Nov 22 02:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Gaming boards run Linux - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.9 KBNov 22 02:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: HMI SBC gains larger display, Linux BSP - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.23 KBNov 22 02:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Cavium Puts #Linux on Millions of #Dell Motherboards http://ur1.ca/gak8Nov 22 02:42
phIRCe-BNcTitle: MontaVista Develops Software for Dell's Latitude ON .::. Size~: 97.53 KBNov 22 02:42
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia 's #Linux #Phone Still Celebrated, More Videos http://ur1.ca/gak9 http://ur1.ca/gakaNov 22 02:44
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Nokias Maemo OS  The next big wave | The Maemo .::. Size~: 58.75 KBNov 22 02:44
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Top 10 Mobile Phones » News » Nokia N900 mobile phone showcased in 30 new videos! .::. Size~: 40.31 KBNov 22 02:44
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenMoko Neo #FreeRunner Has Strong Demand in South Africa, Goes on Sale http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Cellular/10524.htmlNov 22 02:46
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open source phone in SA .::. Size~: 34.01 KBNov 22 02:46
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ARM-based Sub-notebooks with #GNU #Linux Look Strong http://ur1.ca/gakf http://ur1.ca/gakhNov 22 02:48
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Inventec Smartbook almost makes me think Smartbooks have a shot .::. Size~: 32.29 KBNov 22 02:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OLPC Sub-notebooks Gain Interest in Developed Countries http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/usa/laptop_in_every_american_backpack.htmlNov 22 02:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle: A Laptop in Every American Backpack - OLPC News .::. Size~: 77.94 KBNov 22 02:49
*PetoKraus has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)Nov 22 02:50
*popey has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)Nov 22 02:50
*ikonia has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)Nov 22 02:50
*PetoKraus (n=pk@fsf/member/petokraus) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 02:51
*popey (n=alan@ubuntu/member/pdpc.gold.popey) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 02:51
*ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 02:51
*ikonia has quit (SendQ exceeded)Nov 22 02:54
*ikonia (n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 02:57
*Balrog_ (n=Balrog@32.167.16.134) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 02:58
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think tomorrow I will be having another piracy article. The pro piracy argument gets sillier by the day! #tpb #piratebayNov 22 03:03
schestowitzPiracy?!?!Nov 22 03:03
schestowitzDon't call it thatNov 22 03:03
_goblinlolNov 22 03:03
schestowitzIt's counterfeitingNov 22 03:03
schestowitzSeriouslyNov 22 03:03
_goblinis it?Nov 22 03:03
schestowitzAbandon the bad wordsNov 22 03:03
schestowitzRMS wrote to me about thisNov 22 03:03
*PetoKraus has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)Nov 22 03:03
*popey has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)Nov 22 03:03
schestowitzgnNov 22 03:03
_goblinlol...Nov 22 03:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, I think thats me done for the night.Nov 22 03:04
_goblinI'll tackle you on that tomorrow!!! Good night!Nov 22 03:04
*_goblin has quit ("Ex-Chat")Nov 22 03:04
*PetoKraus (n=pk@fsf/member/petokraus) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 03:06
*popey (n=alan@ubuntu/member/pdpc.gold.popey) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 03:06
MinceRwhy? pirates are cool, piracy is coolNov 22 03:07
MinceRit's their problem for equating copyright infringement with it :>Nov 22 03:08
*amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-249-193.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 03:11
*amarsh04 has quit (Success)Nov 22 03:12
*amarsh04_ is now known as amarsh04Nov 22 03:13
*Diablo-D3 (n=diablo@64.223.241.169) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 03:15
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #GlennBeck to extend his #douchebag sphere http://ur1.ca/galyNov 22 03:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Glenn Beck Party? - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 62.04 KBNov 22 03:21
*DaemonFC (i=none@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 04:06
*amarsh04 has quit (Broken pipe)Nov 22 04:14
*amarsh04 (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-249-193.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 04:14
DaemonFChttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-windows-7-nsa-backdoor,9130.htmlNov 22 04:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft Denies Windows 7 Has NSA Backdoor - Tom's Hardware .::. Size~: 111.64 KBNov 22 04:14
DaemonFChttp://mcpmag.com/articles/2009/11/12/opera-beats-ie-in-browser-web-security.aspxNov 22 04:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Browsers Ranked in Web App Security Report -- Microsoft Certified Professional Magazine Online .::. Size~: 45.34 KBNov 22 04:36
DaemonFCMicrosoft commissions a "security test" and loses a comparison it paid for, to Opera, by a mile.Nov 22 04:36
Omar87_Hi all.Nov 22 04:37
Omar87_I wonder if there's a good video editing application similar to Winblow's Movie Maker for Linux..?.Nov 22 04:37
DaemonFCmaybe, maybe notNov 22 04:38
Omar87_??Nov 22 04:38
DaemonFCopen source applications have this annoying tendency to mature enough to be useful to the developers, but not to youNov 22 04:38
DaemonFCwhat the developers want is not necessarily what you need, so in many cases you end up finding an application that's close to what you want without actually having the feature you needNov 22 04:39
DaemonFCPidginNov 22 04:39
DaemonFCLinus Torvalds alluded to that when he was asked to help "fix" GNOME, and he replied that he didn't want to do UI design because you'd get something that was very useful to him and not well suited for general useNov 22 04:40
Omar87_Ho yes there is! :DNov 22 04:40
Omar87_Oh*Nov 22 04:40
Omar87_Open Movie. :)Nov 22 04:40
DaemonFCpeople have come forward and tried to help improve Pidgin and ended up having to either fork it or most of itNov 22 04:41
DaemonFCmsn-pecan for oneNov 22 04:41
DaemonFCbecause the Pidgin developers are only going to let in improvements that make it better for themNov 22 04:41
DaemonFCwhen the MSN Messenger Protocol went from version 14 to 15, Pidgin couldn't connect for a week, but msn-pecan plugin was fixed the next dayNov 22 04:42
DaemonFChttp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Microsoft-Uncovers-Vulnerability-in-Google-Chrome-Plugin-for-IE-798880/Nov 22 04:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft Uncovers Vulnerability in Google Chrome Plug-in for IE .::. Size~: 113.18 KBNov 22 04:45
*Balrog_ has quit ()Nov 22 04:48
DaemonFCRAND Corporation estimates that illegal aliens are 1.3% of our public health spendingNov 22 05:39
DaemonFChttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/health/policy/21grady.html?_r=1Nov 22 05:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.69 KBNov 22 05:39
DaemonFCWhy don't we turn off the magnet? Make it illegal to treat them?Nov 22 05:40
DaemonFCno other country in the world would take $1 trillion of taxpayer money and spend it on healthcare for illegal aliens while their own citizens went withoutNov 22 05:40
DaemonFCMy mom got mugged in France by some Romanian illegal aliens apparentlyNov 22 05:42
*Omar87 (n=quassel@79.173.247.211) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 05:42
*Omar87 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 22 05:42
DaemonFCapparently the French government isn't deporting them, so they have a high crime rate from a lurker population that lives under bridgesNov 22 05:42
DaemonFCI was also kind of in awe about how messed up their city roads are and how small a vehicle has to be to get throughNov 22 05:44
DaemonFCthe mail trucks were amusing thoughNov 22 05:44
*DaemonFC (i=none@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has left #boycottnovellNov 22 05:47
*DaemonFC (i=none@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 05:50
*Omar87_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 22 05:58
*tuxfan12 (n=adrian@64.160.118.52) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 06:00
*tuxfan12 has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out))Nov 22 06:20
*ender2070_ (n=ender207@bas5-hamilton14-1279279367.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 06:21
*sebsebseb has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 22 06:24
*roy () has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 06:46
*PetoKraus has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)Nov 22 06:46
*popey has quit (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)Nov 22 06:46
*PetoKraus (n=pk@fsf/member/petokraus) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 06:47
*popey (n=alan@ubuntu/member/pdpc.gold.popey) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 06:47
*schestowitz has quit (Connection reset by peer)Nov 22 06:47
*Python1320 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 22 07:44
*Python1320 (i=Python13@unaffiliated/python1320) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 07:45
*ThistleWeb (n=gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 08:41
*ThistleWeb has quit ("Lost terminal")Nov 22 08:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] spent a full day in Finch, it grows on youNov 22 08:51
*ThistleWeb (n=gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 08:54
*ThistleWeb has quit ("Lost terminal")Nov 22 09:00
*roy is now known as schestowitzNov 22 09:01
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-MB466LL-13-3-Inch-Laptop/dp/B001D8S9E2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1258880545&sr=8-4Nov 22 09:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Amazon.com: Apple MacBook MB466LL/A 13.3-Inch Laptop: Electronics .::. Size~: 472.26 KBNov 22 09:05
DaemonFCnobody else could sell a 13" laptop for $1500Nov 22 09:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM Likes #ChromeOS http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/arm-excited-by-chrome-os-652783Nov 22 09:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ARM excited by Chrome OS | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 54.42 KBNov 22 09:07
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ChromeOS Runs on Standard PCs in VM http://ur1.ca/gawr http://ur1.ca/g805Nov 22 09:09
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Want To Try Out Google Chrome OS For Yourself? Heres How.  .::. Size~: 237.28 KBNov 22 09:09
DaemonFCI may get a Blu Ray disc player with my new TVNov 22 09:13
DaemonFCit's tempting to have some movies in that kind of detailNov 22 09:13
*ThistleWeb (n=gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 09:19
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] White House Votes Yes to Award-winning Free #CMS Software http://ur1.ca/gaxk http://ur1.ca/gaxlNov 22 09:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Obama Team Challenges Web Developers -- Open Source -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 87.2 KBNov 22 09:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Just Host Blog  » WordPress wins at 2009 Open Source CMS Awards .::. Size~: 16.75 KBNov 22 09:26
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Seattle Wants Free Software-like Change http://bit.ly/08LfNKQ/Nov 22 09:27
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #VoIP #Censorship in Oman Leads to Arrests http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/20/oman_and_voip/Nov 22 09:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Oman cuffs 212 for selling VoIP calls • The Register .::. Size~: 26.82 KBNov 22 09:28
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Law Stolen by Copyright Maximalists http://ur1.ca/gaxp http://ur1.ca/gaxq http://ur1.ca/gaxrNov 22 09:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: He's Got the Law (Literally) in His Hands | Foreign Policy .::. Size~: 53.82 KBNov 22 09:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Entertainmnent Industry: Yes, Please Keep Negotiating Secret Copyright Treaty To Save Our Asses | Techdirt .::. Size~: 73.76 KBNov 22 09:29
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Attacks on #Torrent Hurt Some Real Bands http://techdirt.com/articles/20091119/0225347000.shtmlNov 22 09:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Norwegian Band Told It Can't Post Its Own Music To The Pirate Bay, Even Though It Wants To | Techdirt .::. Size~: 56.33 KBNov 22 09:30
*zer0c00l (n=user@117.199.133.100) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 09:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #EFF Takes on Bogus Podcasting #Patent http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/eff-tackles-bogus-podcasting-patent-and-we-need-yoNov 22 09:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle: EFF Tackles Bogus Podcasting Patent - And We Need Your Help | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.7 KBNov 22 09:39
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Shows That Its Corruption Paid off in France http://ur1.ca/g7hr #ooxmlNov 22 09:40
schestowitzBlu Ray =lockinNov 22 09:40
phIRCe-BNcTitle: FR: Advocacy group protests government's approving of OOXML &mdash;  .::. Size~: 28.66 KBNov 22 09:40
schestowitzAnd your property will expire, DaemonFCNov 22 09:40
schestowitzKeep something you can store digitally and moveNov 22 09:40
schestowitzNot something that's stuck on a disc with DRM and special drivesNov 22 09:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's Ban of Almost 1,000,000 Customers Leads to Class Action http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/11/20/xbox_live_lawsuit/Nov 22 09:42
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Lawyers pursue banned Xbox Live gamers • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 19.87 KBNov 22 09:42
*ThistleWeb has quit ("Lost terminal")Nov 22 09:48
*_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 09:50
schestowitzThe trolls in this channel are being used to portray something as sexist now... http://chanweiyee.blogspot.com/2009/11/militant-feminism-in-foss.htmlNov 22 09:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Linux & Lip Gloss: Militant Feminism in FOSS .::. Size~: 67.73 KBNov 22 09:51
schestowitzMaybe we should add something to the top of logs, I don't know... a disclaimerNov 22 09:51
*ender2070_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 22 09:53
DaemonFCschestowitz: AnyDVD HD can bust the DRM on Blu RayNov 22 09:54
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/orcmid/statuses/5914456788?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PlanetODF+%28Planet+ODF%29 Dennis E. Hamilton: "So it's not about standards conformance, it's about MS Office compatibility with a competing product and ODF be hanged? Ick"Nov 22 10:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Twitter / Dennis E. Hamilton: @jlundstocholm So it's not ... .::. Size~: 7.36 KBNov 22 10:02
*DaemonFC (i=none@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has left #boycottnovellNov 22 10:13
schestowitzhttp://maketecheasier.com/first-look-at-the-new-google-operating-system-chrome-os/2009/11/21Nov 22 10:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: First Look at the New Google Operating System  Chrome OS  Make Tech Easier .::. Size~: 46.16 KBNov 22 10:31
*ender2070_ (n=ender207@bas5-hamilton14-1279279367.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 10:35
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Why do posters outside religious buildings not fall under the "truth in advertising" laws? http://tinyurl.com/yljs24yNov 22 10:42
schestowitzhttp://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/11/20/Android-SplinteringNov 22 10:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ongoing · Android Splintering? .::. Size~: 10.58 KBNov 22 10:43
schestowitz'It is telling that Sherine resorts to quoting Richard Dawkins when she needs to find someone to explain the rationale for the campaign: "Children are routinely labelled with the religion of their parents", Dawkins suggests. By who, exactly? And if the answer is by their parents, who are the BHA to tell them to stop?'Nov 22 10:45
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/18/political-repression-raul-castroNov 22 10:46
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] NASA's Earth-science budget has been slashed at a time when it is most needed http://ur1.ca/gb2kNov 22 10:50
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Look homeward, NASA -- baltimoresun.com .::. Size~: 128.49 KBNov 22 10:50
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Biodiversity loss is Earth's 'immense and hidden' tragedy, Darwin's 'natural heir' warns http://ur1.ca/gb2oNov 22 10:51
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] File sharers gone Gaga? http://tinyurl.com/yacp58f #tpb #torrent #piratebay #music #ladygagaNov 22 11:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: News roundup 22/11/09 «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 36.88 KBNov 22 11:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Massive lawsuit for Microsoft? http://tinyurl.com/yacp58f #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #xbox360 #windows7Nov 22 11:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft scared by Google? http://tinyurl.com/yacp58f #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #google #windows7Nov 22 11:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: News roundup 22/11/09 «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 36.88 KBNov 22 11:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: News roundup 22/11/09 «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 36.88 KBNov 22 11:13
*Tallken (n=f2f93bf5@93.102.77.231) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 11:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Boycotts Against #Apple and #Microsoft, Class Action Likely Coming http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/22/boycott-iphone-devs-bing/Nov 22 11:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Boycotts Against Apple and Microsoft, Class Action Likely Coming | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 105.1 KBNov 22 11:28
*magentar (n=magentar@ip-109-90-135-190.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 11:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, off out for a while. I wonder how many more "GoogleOS is doomed" I will see by the MS faithful....God bless em.Nov 22 11:36
*ender2070_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 22 11:53
*_goblin has quit ("Ex-Chat")Nov 22 11:55
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell and #Microsoft Have Big #XAML News in Store http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/22/silver-lie-and-novell/Nov 22 11:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Novell and Microsoft Have Big XAML News in Store | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 105.94 KBNov 22 11:57
*magentar has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 22 12:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] White-Collar Crime Pays Off, Shows #Microsoft #OOXML http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/22/ooxml-france-denmark/Nov 22 12:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: White-Collar Crime Pays Off, Shows Microsoft OOXML | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 113.77 KBNov 22 12:30
*amarsh04 has quit (Dead socket)Nov 22 12:45
*amarsh04 (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-249-193.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 12:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] . @stellacreasy when tories start talking "family values" http://bit.ly/5YUpST the stockings, suspenders, binbag, tangerine are close behindNov 22 12:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Tories to demand: are you married? - Times Online  .::. Size~: 114.42 KBNov 22 12:51
*ThistleWeb (n=gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 12:53
schestowitzMorning, ThistleWebNov 22 13:01
ThistleWebheyNov 22 13:01
schestowitzIn that Guardian article, I liked the "truth in advertising"  thingNov 22 13:01
schestowitzBut it's not "advertising" Nov 22 13:02
schestowitzIt's assumed to be truthNov 22 13:02
ThistleWebyeah it was really sparked by a comment about a poster outside a church saying something like "God knows all the answers"Nov 22 13:03
ThistleWebthere's a reason why we don't have "it's Gods will" as a legal defenseNov 22 13:04
ThistleWebimagine being in the dock accused of some attrocity, and saying "well, God told me to" "can you prove it?" "if God didn't tell you, maybe he doens't wnat you to know" "what proof do you offer?" "My word" "Ok, all charges are dropped"Nov 22 13:05
ThistleWebit'd be a get out of jail card for EVERY offense, completely unprovableNov 22 13:05
ThistleWebappeal a conviction on the grounds that it was God wot made me do itNov 22 13:07
schestowitzWell, they swear on the bible in US courtNov 22 13:07
ThistleWeb"why would he make you do that?" "ask him yourself" "we can't"Nov 22 13:07
schestowitzGeorge Carlin - Swearing On The Bible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgnWP7jD-0INov 22 13:07
ThistleWebyeah, they don't like it when you tell them it means as much to you as Noddy and it won't alter your motivations or honesty one iota Nov 22 13:08
ThistleWebthey assume it holds the same superstiious fear and reverence in everyone just because they buy itNov 22 13:09
ThistleWeblol, swear in this weeks TV guideNov 22 13:10
ThistleWeb"if I lie may my favorite show get canceled"Nov 22 13:10
schestowitzhttp://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxnews&articleid=7633164&action=articleNov 22 13:10
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Business finance news - currency market news - online UK currency markets - financial news - Interactive Investor .::. Size~: 31.63 KBNov 22 13:10
schestowitz...."wear on your momma's grave'...Nov 22 13:11
*Omar87 (n=quassel@79.173.247.211) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 13:11
schestowitz*swearNov 22 13:11
Omar87Hi guys.Nov 22 13:11
schestowitzwb, Omar87Nov 22 13:11
Omar87schestowitz: Hey!Nov 22 13:11
schestowitzOmar87: take a look at http://www.fsdaily.com/Opposition/Moonlight_and_Mono_Not_GNU_Linux_Projects_AnymoreNov 22 13:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Moonlight and Mono Not GNU/Linux Projects Anymore | fsdaily.com - Free Software News .::. Size~: 29.15 KBNov 22 13:11
ThistleWebhey Omar87 Nov 22 13:11
trmancohttp://www.itpro.co.uk/blogs/daveyw/2009/11/22/ie-6-and-7-hit-by-hack-attack-code/Nov 22 13:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: IT PRO: Blogs: Davey Winder:   IE 6 and 7 hit by hack attack code .::. Size~: 90.29 KBNov 22 13:12
Omar87schestowitz: I'm really disgusted of the Ubuntu Community now.Nov 22 13:12
Omar87ThistleWeb: Hi! :)Nov 22 13:12
Omar87schestowitz: The Mono troll are taking control over the Ubuntu project now and this is so damn disgusting.Nov 22 13:13
schestowitzTHey like c#Nov 22 13:14
ThistleWebthe whole pro mono thing being pushed in FOSS development made me wonder if it will all backfire on them one dayNov 22 13:14
ThistleWebimagine they do manage to infect a lot of projects with code not covered by the promiseNov 22 13:15
ThistleWebthen try to sue themNov 22 13:15
schestowitzOmar87: if you vote for it, this will be on front pageNov 22 13:15
schestowitzI do the least to inform people about this problemNov 22 13:15
ThistleWebthe fact that all of the development has happened in the open, we have permanant archives of who is doing the leadingNov 22 13:16
schestowitzNovell benefits from it, as does MicrosoftNov 22 13:16
schestowitzThistleWeb: and they don't need to sueNov 22 13:16
schestowitzJust intimidateNov 22 13:16
ThistleWebFOSS projects can produce evidence of who is pushing, and their promises to get the code inNov 22 13:16
schestowitzIf a company uses Ubuntu with Mono, Microsoft will bark at them and scare them back into WindowsNov 22 13:16
ThistleWebyeah trueNov 22 13:17
schestowitz"produce evidence"Nov 22 13:17
schestowitzYou use terms as though Novell can be suedNov 22 13:17
schestowitzWhich of course if fantasyNov 22 13:17
ThistleWeball of these things rely on it getting to a court MS haven't boughtNov 22 13:17
schestowitzThey are like MicrosoftNov 22 13:17
*Omar87_ (n=quassel@86.108.4.255) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 13:17
schestowitzDoing their evil things knowing they would get away with itNov 22 13:17
*Omar87_ (n=quassel@86.108.4.255) has left #boycottnovell ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.")Nov 22 13:18
*Omar87_ (n=quassel@86.108.4.255) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 13:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Blogs | Quassel IRC .::. Size~: 26.68 KBNov 22 13:18
Omar87_schestowitz: they have easily managed to get the GIMP out of the Ubuntu default install.Nov 22 13:19
Omar87_schestowitz: Is that true?Nov 22 13:20
schestowitzYes, UbuntuNov 22 13:20
schestowitzFormer Microsoft employeeNov 22 13:20
schestowitzDid you vote this in FS Daily?Nov 22 13:21
Omar87_schestowitz: which one?Nov 22 13:21
schestowitzActually, it was someone else who found out about the Microsoft rootsNov 22 13:21
schestowitzOmar87_: the one pasted aboveNov 22 13:21
schestowitzMicrosoft is driving Mono and MoonlightNov 22 13:21
Omar87_schestowitz: yrah, a long time ago. :)Nov 22 13:21
schestowitzThere is also this morning's evidence of it: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/22/silver-lie-and-novell/Nov 22 13:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Novell and Microsoft Have Big XAML News in Store | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 110.72 KBNov 22 13:22
schestowitzhttp://www.sdtimes.com/blog/post/2009/11/20/Microsoft-Open-source-protects-Silverlight-investments.aspxNov 22 13:22
schestowitzWorthington = Microsoft amicusNov 22 13:22
schestowitzMy brother got burned by docxNov 22 13:23
Omar87_schestowitz: I can't imagine how Microsoft has easily managed to exploit the Ubuntu community..Nov 22 13:23
schestowitzRequired to use the bugger, I told him to complainNov 22 13:23
schestowitzCOrruption from Microsoft pays offNov 22 13:23
Omar87_This sucks..Nov 22 13:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] finally found the sounds in Finch, which should be easier than checking back to see if anything has changedNov 22 13:26
schestowitzBut more people know the issuesNov 22 13:27
schestowitzAnd they speak about these too.... FSF includedNov 22 13:27
schestowitzRight now Canonical is knowingly working against the advice of the FSF, Allison, and othersNov 22 13:28
schestowitzO'Reilly is being a fool again. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Why-Tim-OReilly-Sees-Microsoft-as-a-Proponent-of-the-Open-Web-125998/Nov 22 13:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Why Tim O'Reilly Sees Microsoft as a Proponent of the Open Web .::. Size~: 115.24 KBNov 22 13:29
schestowitzI don't know whether to laugh or weepNov 22 13:29
schestowitzThose chaps exchnage money now and while Microsoft is attacking Web standards this stooge is praising themNov 22 13:29
Omar87_schestowitz: O'Reilly is an MS backyard, man. :)Nov 22 13:31
*Omar87 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Nov 22 13:31
cubezzzthe guy who thought the furthest ahead was StallmanNov 22 13:33
cubezzzhe was thinking at least 20 years aheadNov 22 13:35
cubezzzTanenbaum and Torvalds also deserve a lot of creditNov 22 13:36
cubezzzhttp://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/Nov 22 13:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Department of Computer Science, Faculty of Sciences, Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam .::. Size~: 20.01 KBNov 22 13:39
Omar87_schestowitz: Isn't there anything that has to be done against those MS zombies?Nov 22 13:40
cubezzzso Minix was 1987Nov 22 13:40
schestowitzhttp://www.benzinga.com/markets/company-news/43711/yahoo-joins-google-microsoft-in-mining-twitter-postsNov 22 13:41
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Yahoo Joins Google, Microsoft In Mining Twitter Posts | Benzinga.com .::. Size~: 67.27 KBNov 22 13:41
schestowitzOmar87_: just writing about itNov 22 13:41
schestowitzgnote was good tooNov 22 13:41
schestowitzBut you're up against the Novell PR departmentNov 22 13:41
schestowitzAll sorts of AstroTurfers tooNov 22 13:41
cubezzzCanonical doesn't matter, in my opinionNov 22 13:41
Omar87_schestowitz: only wrting about it?Nov 22 13:41
schestowitzThey get money from Microsoft and support from Microsoft bloggersNov 22 13:42
schestowitzThe Microsoft boosters are also boosting MonoNov 22 13:42
schestowitzIt's all good for MicrosoftNov 22 13:42
schestowitzThey want to own Linux, tooNov 22 13:42
schestowitzThey don't get enough with WindowsNov 22 13:42
cubezzzdo people really want Big Ass OS (TM)?Nov 22 13:43
schestowitzThe Microsoft zombies have just hijacked another company: http://education.zdnet.com/?p=3374Nov 22 13:43
schestowitzNComputing used to do Linux, but then they hired anti-Linux  thug to BoardNov 22 13:43
schestowitzFrom MicrosoftNov 22 13:43
cubezzzso many good ideas went badNov 22 13:44
cubezzzthe transputer, BeBox, AmigaNov 22 13:45
cubezzzpersistence counts more than intelligenceNov 22 13:45
MinceRtransputer?Nov 22 13:45
cubezzzconcurrent computingNov 22 13:46
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransputerNov 22 13:46
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Transputer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 80.59 KBNov 22 13:46
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Transputer_WorkstationNov 22 13:48
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Atari Transputer Workstation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 33.87 KBNov 22 13:48
MinceRicNov 22 13:50
MinceRnever heard of them beforeNov 22 13:50
cubezzzit is pretty obscure Nov 22 13:50
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/182559/chinese_authors_turn_up_heat_on_google_over_book_scanning.htmlNov 22 13:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Chinese Authors Turn up Heat on Google Over Book Scanning - Business Center - PC World Business Center .::. Size~: 54.99 KBNov 22 13:52
*Omar87 (n=quassel@94.249.15.238) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 13:53
schestowitzhttp://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/11/interop_microso.htmlNov 22 13:53
phIRCe-BNcTitle: InformationWeek.com .::. Size~: 83.27 KBNov 22 13:54
cubezzznow the control mechanism is documentationNov 22 13:54
cubezzzthe one with the docs is the one with the powerNov 22 13:54
cubezzzno docs and you have a herculean task to write driversNov 22 13:55
*zer0c00l has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 22 13:59
cubezzzdo a lsmod then see if you actually have the source code for all the modulesNov 22 14:04
cubezzzyou could audit it, remove anything you're not usingNov 22 14:07
cubezzzremove any hardware which uses a binary blobNov 22 14:07
*Omar87_ has quit (Connection timed out)Nov 22 14:07
cubezzzlsmod | grep unusedNov 22 14:08
*zer0c00l (n=user@117.199.133.100) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 14:09
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] .@arkadyrose is cleaning and playing @deathboyuk. younger teen (previously his youngest fan) thought it was marilyn manson.Nov 22 14:11
cubezzzlike I don't really need osst in there :)Nov 22 14:11
cubezzzOnStream SCSI Tape DriverNov 22 14:15
cubezzzok, I can see they axed that in newest LinuxesNov 22 14:15
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] How to fix capitalism http://pietersz.co.uk/2009/11/fix-capitalism HT @glynmoodyNov 22 14:16
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   How to fix capitalism .::. Size~: 21.34 KBNov 22 14:16
*_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 14:29
schestowitzhttp://www.cultofmac.com/journalists-cover-microsoft-using-macs/21741Nov 22 14:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Journalists Cover Microsoft, Using Macs | Cult of Mac .::. Size~: 32.08 KBNov 22 14:30
Omar87schestowitz: This is sickening.Nov 22 14:40
Diablo-D3how is that sickning?Nov 22 14:41
Diablo-D3if you're doing desktop publishing, you use a macNov 22 14:41
Omar87schestowitz: It is really sickening me to find ppl around here basically worshing MS.Nov 22 14:41
Diablo-D3or advertisingNov 22 14:41
Diablo-D3even MS's own advertising department uses macsNov 22 14:41
Diablo-D3adobe shit on windows is horrid for serious useNov 22 14:41
Omar87Diablo-D3: MS uses Linux and Unix, so where's the news? :)Nov 22 14:42
Diablo-D3due to the fact adobe basically says "we write our software with the assumption the OS works... if your OS doesnt work, thats your fucking problem, Bill"Nov 22 14:42
Diablo-D3ergo, photoshop on windows only technically worksNov 22 14:42
Diablo-D3do anything involving large images or complex shit or even third party plugins, you're fuckedNov 22 14:42
Diablo-D3you get doubly screwed with third party plugins.... many dont ship with windows versionsNov 22 14:43
Diablo-D3or incomplete windows versions such as lack of 64bit supportNov 22 14:43
Omar87schestowitz: it's really disgusting.. -_-Nov 22 14:44
cubezzzI don't think Bill writes code nowadays :)Nov 22 14:44
Diablo-D3otoh, when 64bit osx photoshop came out, within a month or two, all the major plugins had 64bit buildsNov 22 14:44
Diablo-D3clearly, people know where their money comes fromNov 22 14:44
Diablo-D3cubezzz: he actually still doesNov 22 14:45
Diablo-D3every once in awhile he digs out his altair and flops the switches on the frontNov 22 14:45
cubezzzlolNov 22 14:45
Diablo-D3<steve jobs> windows is for fart huffers, and macs get you laid!Nov 22 14:45
ThistleWebtoo many macs make you fat thoughNov 22 14:46
cubezzzhehNov 22 14:46
ThistleWebthough the same could be said for the rest of the menuNov 22 14:46
Diablo-D3ThistleWeb: dohohohohohoNov 22 14:46
ThistleWebgreasy food and all thatNov 22 14:46
cubezzzdon't forget the windows 7 whopper :)Nov 22 14:46
Diablo-D3cubezzz: oh christNov 22 14:46
Diablo-D3that thing is scaryNov 22 14:46
Diablo-D3I mean, Im a big guy, Im like 9 feet all and I eat goats wholeNov 22 14:47
cubezzzbig and bloated :)Nov 22 14:47
Diablo-D3and I couldnt finish thatNov 22 14:47
Omar87schestowitz: you're gonna love this: http://www.msboycott.com/quotes/Nov 22 14:49
cubezzzthey did slaughter Novell in a lot of waysNov 22 14:50
cubezzzthis is interesting:Nov 22 14:53
cubezzzhttp://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/rebuttal/Nov 22 14:53
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Department of Computer Science, Faculty of Sciences, Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam .::. Size~: 20.01 KBNov 22 14:53
cubezzzHP owns the rights to VMSNov 22 14:55
cubezzzbut Gates and Jobs control 96% of the PC marketNov 22 14:57
cubezzzlet's say Linux (GNU and otherwise) is 4%Nov 22 14:57
cubezzzor Linux + BSD = 4%Nov 22 14:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Will Google face anti-competition questions if ChromeOS only connects tor their services and won't let you install anything else?Nov 22 15:01
schestowitzcubezzz: you mean _Desktop_Nov 22 15:11
schestowitzComputers != desktopNov 22 15:11
schestowitzPeople have phones, tooNov 22 15:11
schestowitzThe fixation on desktop is inane sometimesNov 22 15:12
schestowitzhttp://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/20396.cfmNov 22 15:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Nokia contemplating acquiring Palm .::. Size~: 53.72 KBNov 22 15:12
_goblingreat post of the AGM....Nov 22 15:12
_goblinIm reading though the minutes to make my article....Nov 22 15:13
cubezzzschestowitz, I'm old school, I use the desktop mostlyNov 22 15:16
cubezzzwriting code, I'm not really going to use a phone or PDA for thatNov 22 15:19
cubezzzeven if I'm porting to the PDA, I need a real keyboard :)Nov 22 15:20
MinceRlol @ the idea of adobe sw actually working anywhereNov 22 15:22
cubezzzAbode crapped up the netNov 22 15:31
MinceRindeedNov 22 15:32
schestowitzbblNov 22 15:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz the breasts on mr brown are because running jokes save me actual work coming up with new jokesNov 22 15:35
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] signs you might be a big poof: you keep adding "in the metaphorical sense" when you say you're feeling utterly buggeredNov 22 15:44
*Tallken has quit ("Leaving")Nov 22 15:54
*zer0c00l is now known as zer0c00l|afkNov 22 16:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft shareholders meeting – “you all look like a buffoon” http://tinyurl.com/y86x3ag #microsoft #vista #xp #windows #windows7 #failNov 22 16:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft shareholders meeting  you all look like a buffoon «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 36.6 KBNov 22 16:05
*zer0c00l|afk is now known as zer0c00lNov 22 16:15
cubezzzI was looking at laptops at futureshop yesterdayNov 22 16:36
cubezzzall windows and macNov 22 16:36
MinceRhttp://consumerist.com/5408885/smoking-near-apple-computers-creates-biohazard-voids-warrantyNov 22 16:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Smoke Gets In Your Imac: Smoking Near Apple Computers Creates Biohazard, Voids Warranty .::. Size~: 32.6 KBNov 22 16:37
MinceRthat msboycott quote list is greatNov 22 16:38
MinceR"One World, One Web, One Program." -Advertisement for Internet ExplorerNov 22 16:38
MinceR"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuehrer." -Adolf Hitler Nov 22 16:39
cubezzz"One Microsoft Way" <- that tells you what they are all aboutNov 22 16:39
MinceRindeedNov 22 16:41
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #interesting http://tinyurl.com/y86x3ag "you all look like buffoon" "It always better the next time"Nov 22 16:41
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft shareholders meeting  you all look like a buffoon «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 36.59 KBNov 22 16:41
Omar87schestowitz: did you get the old web page that I passed to you?Nov 22 16:44
*asdf_ (i=5496bb96@gateway/web/freenode/x-rtacsskwjzfhobma) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 16:46
*amarsh04 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 22 16:51
*sebsebseb (n=sebastia@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 16:53
sebsebsebhiNov 22 16:53
MinceRoh haiNov 22 16:55
Omar87sebsebseb: HiNov 22 16:58
*amarsh04 (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-249-193.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 16:59
zer0c00llot of hi's Nov 22 16:59
zer0c00l:PNov 22 16:59
sebsebsebOmar87: hiNov 22 17:00
zer0c00lsebsebseb: hiNov 22 17:00
zer0c00lcubezzz: you are on a 2.4.22 kernel ?Nov 22 17:02
zer0c00lcubezzz: what distro ?Nov 22 17:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin the Windows retweet bots are bloody hilariousNov 22 17:07
cubezzzfc1Nov 22 17:08
cubezzzmodifiedNov 22 17:08
sebsebsebzer0c00l: hiNov 22 17:09
zer0c00loh coolNov 22 17:09
zer0c00lcubezzz: fc1 must be the most stable version of f3d0ra :DNov 22 17:10
cubezzzit's good :)Nov 22 17:10
cubezzzI've had uptimes of 200 daysNov 22 17:10
zer0c00l:DNov 22 17:10
zer0c00lniceNov 22 17:10
zer0c00lcubezzz: miserably we wont hav such uptimes with recent version of fedoraNov 22 17:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I want a £200 F70EXR camera NOW mummy. £40 in paypal. Must perform budget miracle. Or suck a lot of cock. HLAGH HLAGH HLAGH HLAGH HLAGHNov 22 17:11
cubezzzwhy is that?Nov 22 17:11
zer0c00ls/wont/cantNov 22 17:11
zer0c00lGnome is buggyNov 22 17:11
zer0c00lkeeps crashing Nov 22 17:11
zer0c00lbut if you are using only runlevel 3Nov 22 17:11
zer0c00lthen its ok :)Nov 22 17:11
zer0c00lnautilus crashes time to timeNov 22 17:11
zer0c00lneeds reboot to make it work properlyNov 22 17:12
cubezzzf11 doesn't seem too badNov 22 17:12
zer0c00li am using f11Nov 22 17:12
zer0c00lcubezzz: better than windows ;DNov 22 17:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard it appears that hashwindows still does RT me, can't remember now which one doesnt. Windows 7 #windows #microsoft #failNov 22 17:13
zer0c00lflicker free booting , kms coolNov 22 17:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin it's cos you keep tweaking them about it. they still retweet mine. ahahahaha.Nov 22 17:14
zer0c00lfedora is now more focused towards desktop usersNov 22 17:14
MinceRyou could use kdeNov 22 17:18
cubezzzI use old KDENov 22 17:19
cubezzzon this box I compiled KDE 3.4.2 using konstructNov 22 17:20
cubezzzmost Linux folks are running Ubuntu and FedoraNov 22 17:21
cubezzzI got a lot of stuff on this box I probably shouldn't have Nov 22 17:22
cubezzzlike a tv tuner card on a server.... Nov 22 17:22
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard the clueless Microsoft bots are great for linking my articles! all you need is #windows #microsoft #vista #xp #windows7 ..easy!Nov 22 17:23
MinceRi mean on recent kdeNov 22 17:23
MinceRs/kde/fedora/Nov 22 17:23
cubezzzI just found new KDE to be rather slowNov 22 17:24
cubezzzbut I like to experiment with stuffNov 22 17:25
*TipeX (n=tipex@unaffiliated/tipex) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 17:28
*TipeX (n=tipex@unaffiliated/tipex) has left #boycottnovellNov 22 17:28
zer0c00l:)Nov 22 17:28
cubezzzmostly if someone wants their laptop to run Linux I'm putting Fedora 11 on thereNov 22 17:29
cubezzzI'm pretty well out of the microsoft world nowNov 22 17:30
cubezzzeven for workNov 22 17:30
*lis` has quit ("baibai<3")Nov 22 17:32
*Drew3 (n=Drew3@pool-64-222-203-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 17:35
*Drew3 (n=Drew3@pool-64-222-203-97.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) has left #boycottnovellNov 22 17:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] amazon gets my soul. http://is.gd/519rC kids, we're living on cardboard for the next month, and selling your spare organs.Nov 22 17:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Fujifilm Finepix F70EXR Digital Camera - Gun Metal: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo .::. Size~: 380.73 KBNov 22 17:45
Diablo-D3meeeeehNov 22 17:46
Diablo-D3I dont like fuji digitalNov 22 17:46
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] i keep hitting 'refresh' on the camera order page to see if it's there yet. i understand this is normal.Nov 22 17:52
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] is there any point to an adblocker which does not block a single advert? Midori needs work!Nov 22 17:53
*zer0c00l has quit ("gn")Nov 22 17:54
schestowitzTHis is a good show: http://linuxbasement.com/content/lb-episode-46-google-and-command-line-fun-linux-basementNov 22 18:01
phIRCe-BNcTitle: LB - Episode 46 - Google and Command Line Fun by Linux Basement | Linux Basement .::. Size~: 30.7 KBNov 22 18:01
schestowitzGroklaw does some damage control over its mistake.. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070430121005424Nov 22 18:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Groklaw - 2 Major Patent Rulings from the US Supreme Court .::. Size~: 334.42 KBNov 22 18:12
schestowitzCriminal company prepares to fight regulators: http://www.zibb.com/article/5668368/Intel+Names+Douglas+Melamed+General+CounselNov 22 18:13
Omar87schestowitz: lol! I was just arguing with a MS employee. I asked him to list at least three original MS products, and he listed these: http://pastebin.com/m25e21617 :PNov 22 18:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool .::. Size~: 12.57 KBNov 22 18:13
*Tallken (n=f2f93bf5@93.102.61.77.rev.optimus.pt) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 18:15
cubezzzeven Rupert fears Microsoft :)Nov 22 18:17
cubezzzwhen Gates got into the libraries I started to worryNov 22 18:20
cubezzzit's bad, MIcrosoft owns the storesNov 22 18:23
*ThistleWeb has quit ("Lost terminal")Nov 22 18:24
schestowitzhttp://euclid.trentu.ca/math/sb/pcml/welcome.htmlNov 22 18:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: A Problem Course in Mathematical Logic .::. Size~: 7.09 KBNov 22 18:25
schestowitzcubezzz: yes, he fears thmNov 22 18:25
schestowitzDid you see the quote?Nov 22 18:25
schestowitzOmar87: they are not originalNov 22 18:26
schestowitzThey are copiesNov 22 18:26
schestowitzHe just gave product listNov 22 18:26
cubezzzhmmm?Nov 22 18:26
schestowitzMost of them are responses to REAL products like OpenGLNov 22 18:26
Omar87schestowitz: I know.Nov 22 18:26
schestowitz"Everybody in the communications business is paranoid of Microsoft, including me." --News Corporation CEO Rupert MurdochNov 22 18:27
schestowitzOmar87: he just puts "Microsoft" ahead of all of themNov 22 18:27
schestowitz"Roy's cloud"Nov 22 18:27
Omar87schestowitz: he started justifying it by claiming that MS buys other products in order to further expand them and improve them. :PNov 22 18:27
schestowitz"Roy's wiki"Nov 22 18:27
schestowitz"Roy's whatever..."Nov 22 18:27
Omar87schestowitz: exactly!Nov 22 18:28
schestowitzJust cause it says their brand doesn't make it originalNov 22 18:28
schestowitzOmar87: no, Microsoft buys to ruin themNov 22 18:28
schestowitzWhat Microsoft buys it usually ruinsNov 22 18:28
schestowitzLook at Danger|SideKickNov 22 18:28
Omar87schestowitz: well, tell that to him. :)Nov 22 18:28
schestowitzRecent example--Microsoft killed the thingNov 22 18:28
schestowitzOmar87: no, too brainwashedNov 22 18:29
cubezzzyes I saw that :)Nov 22 18:29
cubezzzwell I guess the knowledgeable ones will just build the computer they wantNov 22 18:30
cubezzzyou can even buy PDA kits nowNov 22 18:31
Omar87schestowitz: sure he is.Nov 22 18:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft responds to its IMO convenient "switch off" http://tinyurl.com/y8qbwp5 #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #windows7 #xbox360 #failNov 22 18:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft stands firm in face of possible lawsuit over Xbox Live bans .::. Size~: 98.14 KBNov 22 18:32
Diablo-D3woahNov 22 18:32
schestowitzhttp://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2009/11/at-porteous-hearing-lawyer-says-no-return-expected-on-cash-gifts-to-judge.htmlNov 22 18:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle: At Porteous Hearing, Lawyer Says No Return Expected on Cash Gifts to Judge - The BLT: The Blog of Legal Times  .::. Size~: 65.1 KBNov 22 18:33
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] 46 years ago, a great man died http://ur1.ca/gbp3Nov 22 18:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage :: Overview .::. Size~: 12.52 KBNov 22 18:36
_goblinRoy, are you aware of this site: http://www.msboycott.com/Nov 22 18:36
_goblinnever seen it before....Nov 22 18:36
schestowitz_goblin: yesNov 22 18:37
schestowitzhttp://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/11/18/iran.election.verdict/index.htmlNov 22 18:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Iran sentences 5 to death for post-election protests  - CNN.com .::. Size~: 40.92 KBNov 22 18:37
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10400362-52.htmlNov 22 18:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: IBM: Computing rivaling human brain may be ready by 2019 | Geek Gestalt - CNET News .::. Size~: 117.06 KBNov 22 18:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] More cringeworthy Microsoft vids? http://tinyurl.com/yk2e2kh and people said the Win7 party vids were bad. #microsoft #windows #xp #failNov 22 18:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   This Microsoft store is trying too hard  .::. Size~: 299.56 KBNov 22 18:43
*Declination (n=ryan@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 18:44
schestowitz"You needed either Windows Media Player or RealOne Player." http://investor.shareholder.com/googpr/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=75092Nov 22 18:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Google, Inc. .::. Size~: 3 KBNov 22 18:45
schestowitzGoogle FAILNov 22 18:45
schestowitz_goblin: don't feed viral vids, pls :-)Nov 22 18:46
schestowitzit's for Microsoft sympathyNov 22 18:46
*Python132O (i=Python13@unaffiliated/python1320) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 18:49
Diablo-D3schestowitz: btwNov 22 18:49
Diablo-D3not google failNov 22 18:50
Diablo-D3theres actually some weird laws going on thereNov 22 18:50
Diablo-D3technically nothing stops them from also releasing it as standard h264 or theoraNov 22 18:50
Diablo-D3but dont bitch at themNov 22 18:50
Diablo-D3bitch at wall street for being a bunch of fucksNov 22 18:50
Diablo-D3notice thats not a google websiteNov 22 18:51
*Python1320 has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 22 18:51
_goblinschestowitz: Really?  I thought it shows perfectly how MS is trying to cash in on an already established popular medium..Nov 22 18:52
_goblinthe Improv vids are very good and clearly the inspiration for MS's store attempts...Nov 22 18:52
Diablo-D3anyhow, Im going to bedNov 22 18:52
Diablo-D3nigt allNov 22 18:52
_goblinnight!Nov 22 18:52
*Diablo-D3 has quit ("do coders dream of sheep()?")Nov 22 18:52
schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/software/221900372;jsessionid=M3SXWVMFKCNZFQE1GHRSKHWATMY32JVNNov 22 18:53
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube's Auto Caps Not Only Help The Deaf, But Searchers Too - Software - IT Channel News by CRN .::. Size~: 77.62 KBNov 22 18:53
*jono (n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 18:59
_goblinJono as in Ubuntu?Nov 22 19:04
schestowitzFreedom as in "cheap"?Nov 22 19:06
cubezzzwe don't have total freedom Nov 22 19:07
trmancoanybody here have skype?Nov 22 19:09
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, fed up with this Twitter backdrop...time for something better..Nov 22 19:11
*DaemonFC (i=none@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 19:14
*MikeyC (i=5acce509@gateway/web/freenode/x-qbkqqhlzrkzdhfpo) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 19:18
schestowitz"id card = natural selection for stupidity" http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/5884874329Nov 22 19:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Twitter / Glyn Moody: Manchester area post codes ... .::. Size~: 10.05 KBNov 22 19:21
schestowitzhttp://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/releasing-chromium-os-open-source.htmlNov 22 19:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Official Google Blog: Releasing the Chromium OS open source project .::. Size~: 84.85 KBNov 22 19:22
schestowitzHey, MinceRNov 22 19:22
schestowitz* MikeyCNov 22 19:22
schestowitzhttp://anz.theoildrum.com/node/5977Nov 22 19:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Oil Drum: Australia/New Zealand | Australian Senate: Peak Oil motion defeated 31:6 .::. Size~: 154.45 KBNov 22 19:29
schestowitz"What's lurking underneath Tiananmen Square? It ain't just rats. In 1969, at the height of the Cultural Revolution, Mao commissioned the construction of an underground city, built right under Beijing. Fearing an imminent nuclear attack from the U.S.S.R, Dixia Cheng (地下城 the underground city) was meant to be a safeguard, designed to house 40% of the city's 7.5 million in case of catastrophe."Nov 22 19:32
schestowitzhttp://mobile.shanghaiist.com/2009/11/20/nuclear_fallout_beijing_maos_underg.phpNov 22 19:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Nuclear fallout Beijing: Mao's underground city: Shanghaiist: News, Music, Nightlife, Restaurants, Events and More in Shanghai, China .::. Size~: 15.4 KBNov 22 19:32
*Declination (n=ryan@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) has left #boycottnovellNov 22 19:35
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] BBCiplayer: "Our servers are too busy. Please try again later." I expect I will get a reduction in my license then? #fail #bbcNov 22 19:37
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8369674.stmNov 22 19:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 85.55 KBNov 22 19:37
MinceRhttp://search.slashdot.org/story/09/11/21/0158213/Bing-Censoring-All-Simplified-Chinese-Language-Queries?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29Nov 22 19:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Search Story | Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries .::. Size~: 173.83 KBNov 22 19:47
trmanconobody uses skype?Nov 22 19:51
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Watching Agent Oso with my son..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs5At4Rh-foNov 22 19:52
DaemonFChttp://www.bing.com/community/blogs/search/archive/2009/11/21/committed-to-comprehensive-results.aspxNov 22 19:54
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Bing - Committed to Comprehensive Results - Search Blog - Bing Community .::. Size~: 50.56 KBNov 22 19:54
trmancoBing0Nov 22 19:55
*Declination (n=ryan@utdpat242007.utdallas.edu) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 20:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] wow..the Microsoft marketing machine seems to be flooding twitter with schemes to win a free piece of MS tech. #microsoft #windows #failNov 22 20:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin i wonder if anyone anywhere has had to pay more than ~ £30 for a copy of windows 7.Nov 22 20:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "BBC iPlayer is down for maintenance. We'll be back shortly." - Still problems then? #bbc #failNov 22 20:10
schestowitzMikeyC: you there?Nov 22 20:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin yes, we went "WHAT THE HELL" at that. Now showing the toddler Charlie & Lola off YouTube.Nov 22 20:11
schestowitz_goblin: thanks, got more proof for twitter Turfs?Nov 22 20:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] iPlayer: "Serving too many people, busy sucking." I submit the BBC should just outsource it to YouTube. #failNov 22 20:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @davidgerard I recommend happy monster band for a happy toddler!Nov 22 20:18
_goblinschestowitz: lots, theres so many.  I have a rig dedicated to monitoring Twitter in real time...(with Twitterfall) its frightening to see...Nov 22 20:19
schestowitz"Why do they need a whole year just to offer up a standalone browser? They have Canonical’s Ubuntu devs working with them, and we all know that in 12 months, Ubuntu devs could produce two completely different distros. They have a 6-monthly release cycle. So what the hell is Google planning which needs an entire year?"Nov 22 20:22
schestowitzhttp://totalinux.org/2009/11/chromeos-released-google-missed-a-great-opportunity/Nov 22 20:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ChromeOS released  Google missed a great opportunity .::. Size~: 46.05 KBNov 22 20:22
schestowitz_goblin: Microsoft has agencies working in TwitterNov 22 20:22
schestowitzIt's disgustingNov 22 20:22
schestowitzThey just see it as their provite amrketurfing groundNov 22 20:23
schestowitz*private maNov 22 20:23
_goblinmind you its easy to use the Microsoft RT bots to get your own messages and opinions out....sort of turn it back on them.Nov 22 20:24
schestowitzhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-bind9-named-configure-views/Nov 22 20:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle:    BIND 9 Configure Views To Partition External and Internal DNS Information .::. Size~: 33.05 KBNov 22 20:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] thank goodness the three-quid Co-Op Spanish red wine is eminently guzzlable, with only a soupcon of a petrol aftertaste.Nov 22 20:25
*Declination has quit ()Nov 22 20:25
schestowitzhttp://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/567-internet-connexion-is-very-slow-on-karmic-koala-solution-Nov 22 20:26
schestowitzhttp://www.movingtofreedom.org/2009/11/20/python-sequence-generator/Nov 22 20:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Python Sequence Generator ~ Moving to Freedom .::. Size~: 33.68 KBNov 22 20:29
*asdf_ has quit ("Page closed")Nov 22 20:30
schestowitzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/22/1833255/No-More-Fair-Price-Refund-For-Declining-XP-EULANov 22 20:34
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | No More Fair-Price Refund For Declining XP EULA .::. Size~: 134.22 KBNov 22 20:34
schestowitzBogus PRNov 22 20:34
schestowitzPro-MicrosoftNov 22 20:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] ah...clever, clever...offer Microsoft prizes by asking entrants to RT...great way to flood Twitter with the MS brand.. #microsoft #failNov 22 20:38
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Want to know why Twitter may be over capacity sometimes? Look towards all the Microsoft RT promotions. #microsoft #vista #windows #xp #failNov 22 20:39
MikeyCRoystonNov 22 20:42
schestowitzHeyNov 22 20:43
schestowitzI beat you guys too easilyNov 22 20:43
MikeyChow ya doin, you did the circuit today. how you get on. or is it a secret?Nov 22 20:43
schestowitzI reckon I could do 6:50Nov 22 20:43
MikeyCwhat did you do?Nov 22 20:44
schestowitzBut I did it calmly, 7:17 IIRCNov 22 20:44
MikeyCwe never tried really, well at least i didn't i knew it was already in the bag, but sid will be dissapointed at having to share second place with youNov 22 20:44
MikeyCwho was your invigilator?Nov 22 20:45
DaemonFCChrome OS is already dead and stuffedNov 22 20:45
schestowitzMikeyC: Mandelson is messing with UK law...Nov 22 20:45
MikeyCi refer you to my previous postNov 22 20:45
schestowitzWhich post?Nov 22 20:46
MikeyCwe never tried really, well at least i didn't i knew it was already in the bag, but sid will be dissapointed at having to share second place with youNov 22 20:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: Unless they impro\ve it, I tend to agreeNov 22 20:46
MikeyCwho was your invigilator?Nov 22 20:46
schestowitzIt's OK for ARMs, but still, there's too much to bash...Nov 22 20:46
schestowitzNo offline accessNov 22 20:46
DaemonFCit's a web browser, and that's itNov 22 20:47
schestowitzMikeyC: guess.Nov 22 20:47
DaemonFCI have no doubt it'll support Google Talk and stuffNov 22 20:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: and thus subsidisedNov 22 20:48
schestowitzThey'll subside people's walking into their 'cloud'Nov 22 20:48
schestowitzFogNov 22 20:48
DaemonFCnow what would be nice is if it supported some webcam streaming softwareNov 22 20:48
MikeyCSeanNov 22 20:48
cubezzzeven the name is badNov 22 20:48
DaemonFCthe only way to do that right now is Windows or MacNov 22 20:48
MikeyCor someone who stopped the clock when you did the rowing changeover, i know your tricks!Nov 22 20:48
cubezzzthe veneer of operating systemsNov 22 20:49
schestowitzNot SeanNov 22 20:49
DaemonFCGoogle Talk doesn't support video chat on Linux, nor is there anyway to do that between WLM or Yahoo users from LinuxNov 22 20:49
MikeyCHo!Nov 22 20:50
schestowitzNo-one stopped the clockNov 22 20:50
DaemonFCFlash is still not recognizing simple USB microphones, so no Flash-based streaming eitherNov 22 20:50
schestowitzHo was slapping it from the sidelinesNov 22 20:50
schestowitzAnd others causing distractionsNov 22 20:50
DaemonFCI suppose you're limited to Skype or those crazy Empathy<>Pidgin over XMPP dealsNov 22 20:50
schestowitzAnyway, it was CraigNov 22 20:50
MikeyCso are you not going to congratulate me for winning Roy? Are are you becoming like Ho?Nov 22 20:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: nopeNov 22 20:51
schestowitzAnd it's not for that, eitherNov 22 20:51
schestowitzMikeyC: you won a while agoNov 22 20:51
MikeyCPoor Ho must live in that gym!Nov 22 20:51
schestowitzNow you need to pressure them not to make this year's price invisible like beforeNov 22 20:51
schestowitzMikeyC: he doesNov 22 20:52
MikeyCi willNov 22 20:52
schestowitzHe was there when I got itNov 22 20:52
schestowitz*inNov 22 20:52
schestowitzWas there when I leftNov 22 20:52
MikeyCand is probably there now!Nov 22 20:52
schestowitzHeheNov 22 20:52
schestowitzSadly, noNov 22 20:52
schestowitzClosed at 8Nov 22 20:52
MikeyCHe'll be stood at the bottom of Vicki's garden path in her dad's suit:)Nov 22 20:53
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2008/03/04/mr-fitness-photos/Nov 22 20:53
phIRCe-BNcTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Mr. Fitness 2008 Photos .::. Size~: 27.43 KBNov 22 20:53
MikeyCWell done on the circuit anyway. i knew you had it in you!Nov 22 20:53
schestowitzVicky?Nov 22 20:53
schestowitzIn his dreams maybeNov 22 20:53
schestowitzMikeyC: ta mate. It's my 4th 1st placeNov 22 20:54
schestowitzAFAIKNov 22 20:54
schestowitzThey should do a circuit in the gym thoughNov 22 20:54
MikeyCIt's you 4th first place in this contest yeah?Nov 22 20:54
schestowitzI do sets with the full stack on each, that's what I pratice and therefore do bestNov 22 20:54
schestowitzMikeyC: yes, endurance got me. I didn't bother improving it, either.Nov 22 20:55
schestowitzDoes drinking tea count? :-|Nov 22 20:55
*schestowitz sipsNov 22 20:55
MikeyCAre you coming to the Christmas do, it wont be the same if you dont come?Nov 22 20:55
MikeyCSid is going to be pissed when he finds out you beat him, i think he thought because he was 8 seconds quicker than me he had second place in the bag, he didn't realise i was only coasting, i'd already won it:)Nov 22 20:57
schestowitzBut he's still second, isn't he?Nov 22 20:58
schestowitzNot that it matters much..Nov 22 20:58
schestowitzPriorities changdNov 22 20:58
MikeyCno no, you are both equal second nowNov 22 20:58
schestowitzI used to practise properlyNov 22 20:58
schestowitzWhen prized meant moreNov 22 20:58
MikeyCme tooNov 22 20:58
schestowitzThe first one is differentNov 22 20:58
schestowitzFor me, it was the rowing, 2002Nov 22 20:58
schestowitzI had only gotten medals before that, not platesNov 22 20:59
MikeyChow was ho, could you sense his opposition towards me:)Nov 22 20:59
schestowitzYesNov 22 20:59
MikeyChe would love to see me beat.....poor fella:)Nov 22 20:59
schestowitzHe wanted me to beat you, he said :-)Nov 22 20:59
MikeyCit's a shame for him:)Nov 22 20:59
schestowitzHe can't win himselfNov 22 21:00
schestowitzBut truth be told, I'm friends with him. Amicable person...Nov 22 21:00
MikeyChe is rubbish, to be frank.Nov 22 21:00
schestowitzNa..Nov 22 21:00
schestowitzYou work with him, it's differentNov 22 21:00
schestowitzAnyway, Dave Robinson got my # regarding his Web siteNov 22 21:00
MikeyCi suppose, but he has betrayed me big time, on many levels.Nov 22 21:01
schestowitzhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBLCEMxRSmfw&pos=9Nov 22 21:01
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Obama Creates Task Force to Fight Financial Fraud (Update4)  - Bloomberg.com .::. Size~: 31.56 KBNov 22 21:01
schestowitzhttp://www.law.com/jsp/tal/digestTAL.jsp?id=1202435554475&Cotchett_Sues_Wall_Street_Over_Alleged_BidRigging_in_Municipal_Derivative_MarketNov 22 21:01
schestowitzDid you see it?Nov 22 21:01
schestowitzI was about to pass it onNov 22 21:02
MikeyCGotta go matey, thanks for congratulating me on the win btw!?Nov 22 21:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: Did he staff it with Goldman Sachs lawyers and former executives?Nov 22 21:05
schestowitzMikeyC: of courseNov 22 21:06
schestowitzBTW, don't PM me in IRCNov 22 21:06
schestowitzNo need, I read it all hereNov 22 21:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: of course. They're EVERYWHERE!Nov 22 21:07
MikeyCWell done in Mr Fitness anyhow, i look forward to next year, wherein i predict Sid will be the winner, and i will come second!Nov 22 21:09
schestowitzMikeyC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPRsuo4Sfzo&feature=PlayList&p=4E7EDD1A1E985ACD&index=41Nov 22 21:09
*DaemonFC (i=none@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has left #boycottnovellNov 22 21:09
schestowitzMikeyC: yes, I'd do another one I guess. Maybe not.Nov 22 21:09
MikeyCgreat vid with vidal, listening now!Nov 22 21:11
MikeyCsee you Roy, i am off downstairs, cheerio......The Champ!Nov 22 21:13
schestowitzTaNov 22 21:14
schestowitzMikeyC: Chalmers Johnson < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgnKZ5UgYS0&feature=PlayList&p=4E7EDD1A1E985ACD&index=45 >Nov 22 21:30
schestowitzThat's the one whom I told you about around AprilNov 22 21:30
schestowitzVidal... good quoteNov 22 21:36
schestowitzThe press is the enemy because it's owned by the same corporations that profit from war (e.g. GE....NBC)Nov 22 21:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Currently watching the Sarah Jane adventures on BBCi - need to play catchup, haven't seen the new series...Nov 22 21:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Suse stripping DHT from Transmission in it's distro? http://tinyurl.com/yk9vmst #linux #p2p #bittorrent #opensuse #suse #novell #microsoftNov 22 21:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle:    Novell Strips BitTorrent DHT Technology from openSUSE | TorrentFreak   .::. Size~: 42.5 KBNov 22 21:58
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Chrome OS's ability to boil babies disputed by Microsoft http://notnews.today.com/?p=748Nov 22 22:01
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Chrome OSs ability to boil babies disputed by Microsoft - News of the News .::. Size~: 35.69 KBNov 22 22:01
*Python132O has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))Nov 22 22:11
*PythonI320 (i=Python13@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3cdc00-214.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 22:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Oops...BBC Iplayer down again....at least I did manage to see one episode. #bbc #failNov 22 22:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] artists! you must create something every day. no exceptions. if i can, you can. today's I thought I phoned in, it got retweets. good lord.Nov 22 22:16
*ender2070_ (n=ender207@bas5-hamilton14-1279279367.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovellNov 22 22:41
ender2070_I found more interesting connecitonsNov 22 22:41
ender2070_connectionsNov 22 22:41
ender2070_http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=344Nov 22 22:41
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Pwnage.ca » Fun with De Icaza .::. Size~: 19.18 KBNov 22 22:41
ender2070_regarding de icaza at pdcNov 22 22:41
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Smarter OOM Killer Enters #Linux #Kernel Space http://ping.fm/hmXDsNov 22 22:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu 9.10 GNU/Linux Now Exceptionally Simple to Run in a VM http://ping.fm/uQrFTNov 22 22:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Toward a smarter OOM killer [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 120.34 KBNov 22 22:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: VMWare Workstation 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 Easy Install  Too easy? | fsckin w/ linux .::. Size~: 26.98 KBNov 22 22:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU Linux Chosen by Developers Because It is Better #php http://ping.fm/LrP1PNov 22 22:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Jolicloud #GNU #Linux for Sub-notebooks Reviewed http://ping.fm/5e9mVNov 22 22:56
phIRCe-BNcTitle:    JOLICLOUD Linux OS review  : Netbook Reviews and News: GadgetMix .::. Size~: 60.91 KBNov 22 22:56
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva 2010 Makes New #GNU #Linux Users http://ping.fm/QZA5w http://ping.fm/coPYeNov 22 22:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: echo "Linux blog" | nc blogger.com 80: Happy first time Linux users, with Mandriva 2010 .::. Size~: 81.41 KBNov 22 22:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Replacing Windows Apps |  TechTalk .::. Size~: 18.63 KBNov 22 22:57
*ender2070_ has quit (Remote closed the connection)Nov 22 22:59
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Funtoo #GNU #Linux on the Testbed http://ping.fm/BxFNiNov 22 23:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] BBCiplayer has been up and down more times in the last few minutes than Windows! #bbc #failagain #microsoftNov 22 23:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Comparisons Between #Ubuntu and #Fedora http://ping.fm/WXjic http://ping.fm/S8ll3Nov 22 23:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Back to relative stability with Funtoo | The Linux Experiment .::. Size~: 39.72 KBNov 22 23:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Tweak and GUI Improvements in Next Ubuntu GNU/Linux Shown http://ping.fm/aepoo http://ping.fm/OIbhdNov 22 23:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: OMG! UBUNTU!: Ubuntu Tweak 0.6 UI Mock-Up Shows Future Plans .::. Size~: 83.16 KBNov 22 23:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Ubuntu 10.4 (Lucid) Artwork (Proposed) | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 45.02 KBNov 22 23:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] lol. "Fun with De Icaza" http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=344 #foss #linux #mono #novell #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #windows7Nov 22 23:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Pwnage.ca » Fun with De Icaza .::. Size~: 19.19 KBNov 22 23:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OOo4Kids Comes to #OLPC Platform http://ping.fm/LNPZDNov 22 23:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ericb's place: OOo4Kids.activity.xo is available ! .::. Size~: 17.16 KBNov 22 23:07
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Thinking of upgrading to Windows 7 ? http://tinyurl.com/ygobuwq #microsoft #windows #vista #xpNov 22 23:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Relation Between #FreeSoftware, Free Society, and #Democracy http://ping.fm/8x8SnNov 22 23:10
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 22 23:10
phIRCe-BNcTitle: hugos blog  » Free Software, Free Society: Of Democracy and Hacking .::. Size~: 49.23 KBNov 22 23:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Openness in #Government, Scientific Research ( #OpenAccess ) http://ping.fm/guWBD http://ping.fm/WG4kGNov 22 23:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Interaction Design/User Experience » Blog Archive   .::. Size~: 12.61 KBNov 22 23:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: open...: Opening up the Black Box of Scientific Research .::. Size~: 93.87 KBNov 22 23:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Abuse of Power of #Law in the UK (and Some Hope) http://ping.fm/rM2bu http://ping.fm/rYOFB http://ping.fm/JftaXNov 22 23:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Manchester area post codes where the foolish can apply for an ID Card - Spy Blog - SpyBlog.org.uk .::. Size~: 125.52 KBNov 22 23:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Your Right To Know  » Blog Archive   » Reformer of the Year .::. Size~: 36.7 KBNov 22 23:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Jack Straw pledges action to end libel tourism - Times Online  .::. Size~: 113.36 KBNov 22 23:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Cannot be Plagiarised http://ping.fm/FGo9fNov 22 23:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: In their own words: why they oppose the treaty to facilitate access and sharing of works for people with reading disabilities | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 42.35 KBNov 22 23:23
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Details Surface Regarding Real #ACTA Conspiracy http://ping.fm/qra0O http://ping.fm/v3qRS http://ping.fm/Yv4EPNov 22 23:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Will secret copyright treaty restrict your digital rights? | Security | MacUser | Macworld .::. Size~: 58.36 KBNov 22 23:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Stopping the ACTA Juggernaut | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 33.19 KBNov 22 23:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: EXCESS COPYRIGHT: USA Treaty  Priorities? .::. Size~: 80.82 KBNov 22 23:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandelson Under Fire in the #UK Over #MAFIAA #Law http://ping.fm/9XDQ0 http://ping.fm/h7Pbz http://ping.fm/GfWQlNov 22 23:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BREAKING: Leaked UK government plan to create "Pirate Finder General" with power to appoint militias, create laws - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 270.88 KBNov 22 23:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Pirate Party UK - Blog - Questions for Lord Mandelson .::. Size~: 19.3 KBNov 22 23:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Mandelson's Madness - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 88.1 KBNov 22 23:26
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] In the US, Only the Rich Allowed to Follow Court Rulings http://ping.fm/hMMYb http://ping.fm/sv9khNov 22 23:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Patent Docs: Panel to Focus on Bilski Oral Argument - Updated .::. Size~: 48.86 KBNov 22 23:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: CM/ECF LIVE - U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey-Docket Report .::. Size~: 8.51 KBNov 22 23:28
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #USPTO Loses Direction, Abolishment Urged http://ping.fm/1HxeU http://ping.fm/ZfqFI http://ping.fm/85YI8Nov 22 23:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Patent That: Reporter Invents Way to Reach PTO Director - The BLT: The Blog of Legal Times  .::. Size~: 63.12 KBNov 22 23:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Against Monopoly  .::. Size~: 41.25 KBNov 22 23:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: open...: A Modest Proposal: "How to Fix Capitalism" .::. Size~: 96.27 KBNov 22 23:29
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Software Patents Push into Europe from Back Door ('Community'/'Harmonisation') http://ping.fm/EERsc #swpatNov 22 23:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: EU Community Patent And UPLS: Will There Be A Political Breakthrough Soon?  - BLOG@IPJUR.COM .::. Size~: 42.63 KBNov 22 23:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] For those interested yet another MS themed Twitter account has popped up: slashsoft ! #microsoft #windows #fud #xp #vista #window7 #failNov 22 23:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Out of interest ive found Ubuntu 9.10 shuts down about 10 times faster than Kubuntu 9.10 (probably more) #ubuntu #kde #gnome #foss #linuxNov 22 23:35
*jono has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))Nov 22 23:41
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New York Times: Boycott Bong [sic] http://ping.fm/UZIc0 http://ping.fm/TLjDtNov 22 23:44
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Boycott Microsoft Bing - Nicholas D. Kristof Blog - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 86.12 KBNov 22 23:44
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Search Story | Bing Censoring All Simplified Chinese Language Queries .::. Size~: 176.21 KBNov 22 23:44
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses Silver Lie to Break the Web for Competitors http://ping.fm/66iQiNov 22 23:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Visas That #Gates & #Abramoff Corrupted the US for to Return to Court http://ping.fm/Car2cNov 22 23:48
phIRCe-BNcTitle: H-1B Visa Beef May End Up in Supreme Court .::. Size~: 111.86 KBNov 22 23:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Executive: Use #Google http://ping.fm/4WjhONov 22 23:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle: InformationWeek.com .::. Size~: 79.06 KBNov 22 23:58
*_goblin has quit ("Ex-Chat")Nov 22 23:58

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!