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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: November 30th, 2009

schestowitzhttp://www.nerdlogger.com/2009/11/ubuntu-software-centre-no-install.htmlNov 30 00:04
phIRCe-BNcTitle: N.E.R.D.: Ubuntu Software Centre "No Install Button" problem..... .::. Size~: 102.61 KBNov 30 00:04
schestowitzhttp://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000169.jpg [cartoon]Nov 30 00:10
schestowitzNice headline: http://blogs.gentoo.org/remi/2009/11/28/attention-all-stable-usersNov 30 00:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Attention all stable users .::. Size~: 18.36 KBNov 30 00:11
schestowitzhttp://www.dedoimedo.com/physics/skynet.htmlNov 30 00:13
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ender2070i wanna see "They Live" by John CarpenterNov 30 00:18
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cubezzznever saw that movieNov 30 00:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] Hammerheads are fun as long as you don't over-pitch the upline and stall into an inverted spin.Nov 30 00:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I think I may pluck up the courage to try Arch Linux tomorrowNov 30 00:25
cubezzz1988 I think, over 20 years old nowNov 30 00:25
cubezzzthere was another similar movie... with uhh Nov 30 00:27
cubezzzCharlie Sheen?Nov 30 00:28
schestowitzhttp://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/11/28/make-mistakesNov 30 00:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Flameeyes's Weblog : Make mistakes .::. Size~: 19.75 KBNov 30 00:28
ender2070one that brings up mind control?Nov 30 00:28
schestowitz"Mind Control: To control mental output you have to control mental input.  Take control of the channels by which developers receive information, then they can only think about the things you tell them.  Thus, you control mindshare!"Nov 30 00:29
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf (Microsoft document)Nov 30 00:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KBNov 30 00:29
ender2070alsoNov 30 00:30
ender2070if you control the environment, the inhabitants are unlikely to even be aware they are being controlledNov 30 00:30
cubezzzender2070, no aliens that are changing the earth to suit themNov 30 00:30
cubezzzit had the bad guy from timecop... give me a sec and I'll find itNov 30 00:31
cubezzzRon SilverNov 30 00:31
cubezzz"The Arrival"Nov 30 00:32
cubezzzI think that is the movie I'm thinking aboutNov 30 00:32
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Arrival_(film)Nov 30 00:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Arrival (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 33.87 KBNov 30 00:33
cubezzzmore about global warming than mind control thoughNov 30 00:34
ender2070i wanna see thatNov 30 00:34
ender2070reptilians love warm weatherNov 30 00:35
*schestowitz starts watching Michael Tsarion - Architects of Control Program 1 part 1 of 16(HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7MUGZ6JuRINov 30 00:35
ender2070Murder by Injection - Eustace MullinsNov 30 00:36
cubezzzThe idea behind "They Live" is pretty creepyNov 30 00:38
cubezzzbut a lot of weird things have happened in RL so who knows :)Nov 30 00:40
cubezzzschestowitz, developers should learn to think independentlyNov 30 00:41
cubezzzender2070, still no snow eh? :)Nov 30 00:42
ender2070came closeNov 30 00:44
ender2070we got some frostNov 30 00:44
ender2070companys are using cult like techniques for brand adoptionNov 30 00:53
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ender2070how do you like it so farNov 30 01:15
ender2070i've been pausing it and writing down all the booksNov 30 01:16
schestowitzIt's quite interestingNov 30 01:25
schestowitzI finished part 4 (out of 16)Nov 30 01:25
schestowitzWill resume tomorrowNov 30 01:25
schestowitzThey do substaintiate with reasonable evidence so far... mostly assemblage of videos, including the BBC's Century of the Self, which  is an excellent programmeNov 30 01:26
schestowitzMikey told me about itNov 30 01:27
schestowitzNews posted: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/29/new-gnu-linux-mint/Nov 30 01:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Links 29/11/2009: New Linux Mint Released | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 152.02 KBNov 30 01:30
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Differences Between #Linux And Windows - and Why #GNU/Linux is Better http://ur1.ca/gsncNov 30 02:03
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #GNU #Linux Literature Coming Out http://ur1.ca/gsnl http://ur1.ca/gsnpNov 30 02:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: altFIRE .::. Size~: 15.76 KBNov 30 02:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Must have Linux books for Christmas .::. Size~: 41.92 KBNov 30 02:07
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Plymouth Coming Along Nicely in #Linux #Kernel Space http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc0NgNov 30 02:10
phIRCe-BNcTitle: [Phoronix] Plymouth Gets Tighter Integration With GDM, X .::. Size~: 16.67 KBNov 30 02:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What #Google Can do with Desktop #GNU #Linux in Schools http://education.zdnet.com/?p=3395Nov 30 02:11
cubezzzmaddog's launching a linux device:Nov 30 02:12
cubezzzhttp://www.youtube.com/user/openkooluNov 30 02:13
schestowitzNew?Nov 30 02:16
schestowitzI heard about it over 1 year ago :-)Nov 30 02:16
cubezzzah okNov 30 02:16
cubezzzI thought it was newNov 30 02:16
schestowitzIt arrives at a good time thoughNov 30 02:16
schestowitzWHen people no longer choose hummer and plasma tvsNov 30 02:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of Applications That Run on Many Platforms Including #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/gso6Nov 30 02:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Top 10 Cross-Platform Apps that Run on Windows, OS X, Linux, and More - Downloads - Lifehacker .::. Size~: 74.4 KBNov 30 02:17
*cubezzz <- doesn't own a hummer or a plasma tvNov 30 02:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE 4.4 in View, News from The Dot http://ur1.ca/gsoa http://ur1.ca/gsob http://ur1.ca/gsocNov 30 02:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Device automounting in KDE 4.4 | wm161.net .::. Size~: 15.58 KBNov 30 02:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: KDE Community and Apliki Cooperate on Understandable Icons | KDE.news .::. Size~: 12.84 KBNov 30 02:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Second KOffice Developer Sprint 2009 Kickoff | KDE.news .::. Size~: 17.09 KBNov 30 02:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Introduction to #GNU #Linux Game, Recommended #Graphics Cards http://ur1.ca/gsof http://ur1.ca/gsogNov 30 02:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Smokin' Guns - Cowboy First-person shooter Game for Linux. | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 85.84 KBNov 30 02:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Choosing a Graphics Card for Linux Gaming .::. Size~: 29.89 KBNov 30 02:21
*cubezzz looks for Lemote videosNov 30 02:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Ubuntu Derivative #Greenie 6k, Review of #CrunchBang http://ur1.ca/gsoj http://ur1.ca/gsokNov 30 02:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu-Based Greenie 6k Screenshots « Begin Linux Blog .::. Size~: 36.29 KBNov 30 02:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Review  Crunch Bang Linux «  Matthew Hughes .::. Size~: 26.13 KBNov 30 02:23
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux #Mint (Codename “Helena”) is Released http://ur1.ca/gsnz http://ur1.ca/gsolNov 30 02:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Linux Mint Blog  » Blog Archive   » Linux Mint 8 Helena released! .::. Size~: 69.97 KBNov 30 02:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Linux Mint 8 Helena Screenshots « Begin Linux Blog .::. Size~: 43.36 KBNov 30 02:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "In conclusion… #Ubuntu ROCKS!!" http://www.roaksoax.com/2009/11/ubuntizing-peopleNov 30 02:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: RoAkSoAxs Weblog  » Ubuntizing People!! .::. Size~: 20.75 KBNov 30 02:29
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu and the #FogComputing Hype Dissected http://ur1.ca/gsov http://ur1.ca/gsowNov 30 02:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Roll Your Own Ubuntu Private Cloud -- Cloud Computing -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 96.8 KBNov 30 02:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04LTS  Landmark release? «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 47.86 KBNov 30 02:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Groups in #Massachusetts Markets #GNU #Linux with Cartoons http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29691/1141/Nov 30 02:32
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schestowitzgnNov 30 02:44
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] The song is composed by just 3 notes SA-RE-GA in carnatic & C,D,E in western http://tinyurl.com/dk3smw #music #marvelous (via @Sup3kiddo)Nov 30 02:51
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papachangohey thereNov 30 04:12
papachango I received this link from friends who know I like football & use that Leenuxy thing: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=702921&sec=mls&root=mls&cc=5901Nov 30 04:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Football news, live scores, and results - ESPN Soccernet -  .::. Size~: 91.49 KBNov 30 04:12
papachangoWhens the last time you read a professional athlete talking about sports, making a Linux analogy and mentioning both Tannebaum AND RMS? On ESPN?Nov 30 04:12
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DaemonFChttp://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_13890805Nov 30 04:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 302 Found .::. Size~: 58.68 KBNov 30 04:46
DaemonFChttp://www.wivb.com/dpp/health/healthy_living/hiv-infections-rebounding-in-china1259453472719Nov 30 04:46
phIRCe-BNcTitle: HIV infections rebounding in China .::. Size~: 33.72 KBNov 30 04:46
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] TURN THEM OFF!! >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8Nov 30 05:05
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ender2070http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498228245415745977#Nov 30 05:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Code Linux .::. Size~: 35.21 KBNov 30 05:35
ender2070the opening is very goodNov 30 05:43
ender2070rms makes a good analogy of cookingNov 30 05:44
DaemonFCThe price of Blu Ray is in the ballpark of the DVDs priceNov 30 05:46
DaemonFCmaybe $5 moreNov 30 05:46
DaemonFCthey seem to have gotten betterNov 30 05:46
DaemonFCthey were about $40 for a new release a few years agoNov 30 05:46
ender2070bah some of the guests dont speak englishNov 30 05:55
DaemonFCthese PC installments are killing my budget :PNov 30 05:59
DaemonFCI'm going to pay the damned thing off on the 16th, make my last payment out of the leftovers of this month's budgetNov 30 05:59
DaemonFCI need to get out from under this thing, I bought more computer than I probably should haveNov 30 06:00
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BalrogDaemonFC: bluray DRM is really annoying :(Nov 30 06:45
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ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJKue2Ff6oNov 30 07:58
tessierender2070: That is a very old oneNov 30 08:00
fewao geezeNov 30 08:02
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @sarahlee310: News from IL-10 Saying Medicare denial is "brutal" fails 2 compare it 2 the private non-system http://bit.ly/6aZHhV #HCRNov 30 08:06
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ellen's Illinois Tenth Congressional District Blog: Saying Medicare denial is "brutal" fails to compare it to the private non-system .::. Size~: 123.26 KBNov 30 08:06
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ender2070whats old? the jordan maxwell one?Nov 30 08:25
DaemonFCender2070: I saw this sketchpad at ALDI that hooks up through USB and transfers your sketch to your computer's hard driveNov 30 08:52
DaemonFCand the tablet can import and export from Office 2007 formatsNov 30 08:53
DaemonFCI wonder if the Linux kernel has any support for this Nov 30 08:53
DaemonFChttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6685989/System-that-puts-targets-before-patients-fails-NHS.htmlNov 30 09:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: System that puts targets before patients fails NHS - Telegraph .::. Size~: 52.8 KBNov 30 09:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Pulling onto vauxhall station for a day working on London #fbNov 30 09:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Video of the To-Be-Free-Software Sixth Sense http://www.blendernation.com/sixth-sense-technology/Nov 30 09:04
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Sixth Sense Technology | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 49.46 KBNov 30 09:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Adds Another Important Improvement to #Firefox http://ur1.ca/gt9aNov 30 09:05
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Distripedia is Launched http://zotzbro.blogspot.com/2009/11/distripedia.htmlNov 30 09:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: zotz: Distripedia .::. Size~: 61.11 KBNov 30 09:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies and #Copyrights Slip Out of Control in #UK http://ur1.ca/gtaf http://ur1.ca/gtagNov 30 09:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Pub 'fined £8k' for Wi-Fi copyright infringement - ZDNet.co.uk .::. Size~: 106.83 KBNov 30 09:28
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LisbonTreaty and #ACTA Bear Resemblance http://ur1.ca/gtai http://ur1.ca/gtajNov 30 09:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: EU competence to conclude Free Trade Agreements under the Lisbon Treaty - Action groups .::. Size~: 24.27 KBNov 30 09:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ã…sa Torstensson visits Washington on ACTA transparency «  Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 17.74 KBNov 30 09:30
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #FreeSoftware from #Google But Also GNU/Linux Discrimination (Gizmo5) http://ur1.ca/gtal http://ur1.ca/gtamNov 30 09:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Reducing HTTP latency with SPDY [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 79.92 KBNov 30 09:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Google Eliminates Gizmo5 Client For Linux .::. Size~: 148.3 KBNov 30 09:31
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-ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channelNov 30 09:49
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Swedish Presidency conference about UPLS and software patents via the caselaw of a central patent court next 15 and 16 Dec: http://i5.be/VUNov 30 10:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Enforcement of Intellectual Property Rights, with a Special Focus on Trademarks and Patents &ndash; Swedish Presidency of the European Union .::. Size~: 20.37 KBNov 30 10:08
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Microsoft ’s #Murdoch Tactic is Similar to #SCO http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/30/stir-up-infighting-vs-google/Nov 30 10:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Why Microsofts Murdoch Tactic is Similar to SCO | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 121.28 KBNov 30 10:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Musical Chairs in The #EuropeanCommission http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/30/european-croniession-regulators/Nov 30 11:03
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Musical Chairs in The European Commission | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 113.65 KBNov 30 11:03
DaemonFClots of good TV comingNov 30 11:06
DaemonFC:)Nov 30 11:06
DaemonFCJesse Ventura is even getting his own showNov 30 11:06
schestowitzWhat about?Nov 30 11:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Partner Starts Harassing #GNU #Linux + #ARM Product Vendors http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/30/slog-against-smartbook/Nov 30 11:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft Partner Starts Harassing GNU/Linux+ARM Product Vendors | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 117.33 KBNov 30 11:38
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Conspiracy theories I thinkNov 30 11:52
DaemonFCI'll give it a goNov 30 11:52
DaemonFCschestowitz: I noticed that Redbox is selling their used DVDs for $5 at WalgreensNov 30 11:53
DaemonFCbut they're $7 at Walmart or Kroger or McDonaldsNov 30 11:54
DaemonFCWhy would anyone buy them though? I haven't pulled a disc out of their machines yet that wasn't smudged, scratched, or gougedNov 30 11:55
ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfFsGfxUs9UNov 30 11:56
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] In response to the editorial “Abandoning Software Patents, please troll this guy: ”http://i5.be/VYNov 30 12:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Patent Law Blog (Patently-O): In Defense of Software Patents .::. Size~: 81.46 KBNov 30 12:08
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ender2070Maratime Admiralty LawNov 30 12:12
ender2070interestingNov 30 12:12
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ender2070the red number on the back of your birth certificate is basically your serial number, we're all admiralty products owned by a bankNov 30 12:14
ender2070anything having to do with business and you will have your name in all capital lettersNov 30 12:15
DaemonFCender2070: Your social security number was never meant to be used for IDNov 30 12:21
DaemonFCnow they want it on everythingNov 30 12:22
DaemonFCyou can't get a video rental card without giving it to themNov 30 12:22
DaemonFCand Social Security admitted a fuck-up that made all numbers generated after 1985 guessable anywayNov 30 12:22
DaemonFCbasically the entire system is abused and insecure, they make it easy for an imposter to mimic you, get you into outrageous debt, and ruin your creditNov 30 12:23
DaemonFCthen the burden is on you to fix all of thatNov 30 12:23
DaemonFCit doesn't surprise me that identity fraud is so high between a weak numbering system, having it use it for everything, and all the spyware on Windows that is snatching them up no doubtNov 30 12:25
schestowitz[11:52] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Conspiracy theories I thinkNov 30 12:28
schestowitzYes, he's with those 9/11 "truthers"Nov 30 12:28
Diablo-D3goddamn I hate truthersNov 30 12:29
ender2070i said birth certificate, not SIN cardNov 30 12:30
ender2070you're owned by the queen of england, the red number on your birth certificate is your serial numberNov 30 12:31
DaemonFCI want a cigaretteNov 30 12:41
DaemonFCthat hasn't gone awayNov 30 12:41
DaemonFCit has gotten a lot better though, at first I felt like killing anyone that was a minor annoyanceNov 30 12:42
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I'm about to try to install Arch for the first timeNov 30 12:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Confirmed: #Vista7 — Just Like #Vista — Has No Substantial Impact on Sales http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/30/no-real-effect-vista-7/Nov 30 12:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Confirmed: Vista 7  Just Like Vista  Has No Substantial Impact on Sales | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 121.2 KBNov 30 12:49
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mesmerized by lifesaver from @cmsj showing Ubuntu tweets in the Canonical HA kitchen :)Nov 30 13:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] That's Hq. Stupid HTC keyboardNov 30 13:22
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: Threat of #SoftwarePatents in #Mexico , #Sweden http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/30/sw-patent-legislation-roundup/Nov 30 13:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Patents Roundup: Threat of Software Patents in Mexico, Sweden; Microsoft Still Fights with (and for) Software Patents | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 128.11 KBNov 30 13:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another news site decides to die. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8385342.stmNov 30 13:59
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phIRCe-BNcTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 93.95 KBNov 30 13:59
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schestowitz"Parabola GNU+Linux, ArchLinux 100% Libre!" http://parabolagnulinux.org/Nov 30 14:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Parabola GNU+Linux .::. Size~: 5.43 KBNov 30 14:08
DaemonFChmmm, Starz is showing Adventures of Priscilla: Queen of the Desert tonightNov 30 14:13
DaemonFCthat was hilarious, the first time I saw it :PNov 30 14:13
DaemonFCthese people at Comcast are cleverNov 30 14:15
DaemonFCthey know that if they can jack up the cost of your plan in $10 increments, they can slip you a $100 TV bill Nov 30 14:16
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schestowitzDo you need TV (bill)?Nov 30 14:35
schestowitzWhat is your b/w like?Nov 30 14:35
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm bored all the time, so I guess soNov 30 14:37
DaemonFCthis box I have now is massively obsoleteNov 30 14:38
DaemonFCno HD tuner, no component or HDMI out, no S-video (Comcast removed that port)Nov 30 14:39
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DaemonFCI purged all the movie channels to save moneyNov 30 14:44
DaemonFCthey charge like $16 for every movie channel package you get and I had like all of them :PNov 30 14:44
DaemonFCso that brought my bill down a lotNov 30 14:44
DaemonFCthat wasn't a hard loss, they all play 20 year old two star movies over and over againNov 30 14:45
DaemonFCit's cheaper to buy an entire series on DVD than to keep HBO around just for when they have something goodNov 30 14:46
DaemonFClook at their schedule on their websites like for Encore, Showtime, HBO, Cinemax, FlixNov 30 14:47
DaemonFCI'm surprised they even advertise the horrible crap on their lineupNov 30 14:47
DaemonFCI would think that would turn customers off to the idea of subscribingNov 30 14:47
DaemonFCthen even if you have the sports package, they black out the Superbowl or all the prize fights and make you pay $40 to watch them on On DemandNov 30 14:49
DaemonFCComcast is evil and saltyNov 30 14:50
DaemonFCthere's no nickel and diming with themNov 30 14:50
DaemonFCit's fifties and hundredsNov 30 14:50
fewaChromium lies about having no cookies when it has themNov 30 14:52
fewaleaving a situation where they cannot be purgedNov 30 14:53
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schestowitzhttp://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/11/a-proposal-resource-packages-to-improve-performance/Nov 30 15:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: a proposal: resource packages to improve performance at hacks.mozilla.org .::. Size~: 21.62 KBNov 30 15:02
schestowitztrmanco: http://twitter.com/peterkz_swe/statuses/6107744479Nov 30 15:04
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Twitter / Peter Krantz: Norway evaluating ODF and  ... .::. Size~: 9.81 KBNov 30 15:04
fewathats pretty straight forwardNov 30 15:19
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fewa(zlib compressed resources libraries)Nov 30 15:19
schestowitzOh, wrong link, trmanco. nmNov 30 15:24
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schestowitzZDNet  UK had more anti-Linux FUD.... http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,1000001161,39846686-39001121c-20105807o,00.htmNov 30 15:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: You can't be serious. Sorry but your comment is very inaccurate. - Ubuntu 9.10 brings karma to the market - Talkback at ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 88.64 KBNov 30 15:38
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Man arrested for robbing runescape virtual characters http://tinyurl.com/ygtny2k (via @slashdot) i used to play that gameNov 30 15:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Man arrested for robbing RuneScape virtual characters | Graham Cluley's blog .::. Size~: 31.49 KBNov 30 15:51
fewaCanada detains Amy Goodman, the Olympic graft imposes on all that it touches: http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/30/amy_goodman_detained_at_canadian_borderNov 30 16:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Amy Goodman Detained at Canadian Border, Questioned About Speech...and 2010 Olympics .::. Size~: 30.55 KBNov 30 16:05
fewa(on olympic gaft: http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/2/sportswriter_dave_zirin_on_obamas_olympic )Nov 30 16:06
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Sportswriter Dave Zirin on Obama's Olympic Error .::. Size~: 44.67 KBNov 30 16:06
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] printf("%-10s","hello"); and printf("%10c%s","hello"); saved my day!Nov 30 16:06
schestowitzWhoa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tambako/2531409306/Nov 30 16:09
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Angry kitty on Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 408.83 KBNov 30 16:09
schestowitzfewa: amazing, not surprisingNov 30 16:15
schestowitzIt's probably just going to have more people support her causeNov 30 16:15
schestowitzShe should expose police stateNov 30 16:16
fewaIts the olympicsNov 30 16:16
schestowitzWhen under pressure from a certain direction it sometimes leads you to exploring that pressureNov 30 16:16
fewaThats what the Olympics does to a cityNov 30 16:16
schestowitzThe bullying from the MSFTers is how I got into looking at Microsoft so closelyNov 30 16:16
fewaalso gives an excuse to demolish lower-class housingNov 30 16:16
schestowitzfewa: London is the next victimNov 30 16:17
schestowitzScraping money for some fancy game where people throw balls and stuffNov 30 16:17
schestowitzAdvertising and distractionNov 30 16:17
fewaRio, Brazil will get doubleNov 30 16:17
schestowitzIf not church, then sportsNov 30 16:17
fewafirst for World cup, then OlympicsNov 30 16:17
fewagiven them plenty of cover for demolishing all the poor areasNov 30 16:17
fewaand building useless buildings with their moneyNov 30 16:17
schestowitzGotta move the economy!!Nov 30 16:17
fewaits alot like ChurchNov 30 16:17
fewa!!!Nov 30 16:17
fewacathedrals and suchNov 30 16:18
schestowitzHere there was demolition tooNov 30 16:18
schestowitzBefore the bubble blewNov 30 16:18
schestowitzReplacing perfectly fine buildingsNov 30 16:18
schestowitzBurning more energy up.Nov 30 16:18
schestowitzReplacing stuffNov 30 16:18
schestowitzBroken window theory.Nov 30 16:18
DaemonFCI ended up getting a DVRNov 30 16:18
DaemonFCI'm waiting on it to "activate"Nov 30 16:19
schestowitzI'm looking forward to some YouTUbe timeNov 30 16:21
schestowitzCatching up with Goodman and other stuff... and then the filmNov 30 16:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: if you have high b/w quotient, then you can replace your TV with good displaysNov 30 16:22
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schestowitzIt simplifies many things and you can play and share stuff you like (linking)Nov 30 16:22
schestowitzTV is linear for the most part... and centralised... broadcastedNov 30 16:22
schestowitzYou are told what to watchNov 30 16:22
schestowitzIt's a push technology, not pullNov 30 16:22
schestowitzYou're under the programme of someone elseNov 30 16:23
AdmFubar_hello allNov 30 16:24
schestowitzHey, AdmFubar_Nov 30 16:24
MinceRyou can still choose the channel and when to watch it or when to record itNov 30 16:27
AdmFubar_i have a question about a couple of companies, i suspect being shills for msNov 30 16:28
fewa"The Canadian police says they will not talk about this, citing privacy"Nov 30 16:28
fewaBULLLLLLLSHITTTTNov 30 16:28
AdmFubar_anyeone ever hear of the computer security institute which is owned by united business mediaNov 30 16:28
fewaif they cared about privacy they wouldn't have entered her answers to interrogation into the centralized computer systemNov 30 16:29
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schestowitzJust got mail about a documentary in SwitzerlandNov 30 16:50
schestowitzI've just been invited to participate in this documentary because of my research and publications on the Web.Nov 30 16:50
fewaa documentary on the business of fearNov 30 16:56
fewasweetNov 30 16:56
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @glynmoody: Copyright Law Changes In #India Could Gut Fair Use - http://bit.ly/5GOnnd can't they learn from our mistakes? #copyrightNov 30 16:56
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Copyright Law Changes In India Could Gut Fair Use | Techdirt .::. Size~: 36.11 KBNov 30 16:56
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EU leak shows they are trying to include patents in the ACTA treaty: http://i5.be/V6Nov 30 16:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EU trying to define "non-commercial hyperlink" in leaked ACTA position paper: http://i5.be/V6Nov 30 16:59
schestowitzfewa: what do your sources say about Swine Flu?Nov 30 17:01
schestowitzI asked a biology professor whom I know and he thinks it's exaggeratedNov 30 17:01
schestowitzIt happened in the 50s, more or less the same epidemicNov 30 17:01
schestowitzBut another friend heard that in Ukraine and China the pandemic is widespreadNov 30 17:02
schestowitzNo word on mortality rates, but I reckon it's the same as normal fluNov 30 17:02
schestowitzSome people make a fortune from these vaccinesNov 30 17:02
trmancouhgNov 30 17:06
trmancoit's more like the "media" fluNov 30 17:07
schestowitzI know people who had itNov 30 17:10
trmancome tooNov 30 17:10
schestowitzIt's just like flu, no big dealNov 30 17:10
trmancobut they got cured, without even taking any medicationNov 30 17:10
schestowitzThey can't even tell the differenceNov 30 17:10
trmancorightNov 30 17:10
schestowitzThe documentary is about fearmongerers for hireNov 30 17:10
schestowitzGartner for exampleNov 30 17:11
trmancoonly if it's some kind of mutation of it... now that could be dangerousNov 30 17:11
schestowitzWould it render medication ineffective?Nov 30 17:11
schestowitzVaccine is one thingNov 30 17:11
schestowitzBut do people with flu taken very specific medication?Nov 30 17:11
schestowitzAFAIK, they develop ammunition by having itNov 30 17:12
trmancoI don't knowNov 30 17:12
schestowitzAnd...Nov 30 17:12
schestowitzMost importantly:Nov 30 17:12
trmancoyeahNov 30 17:12
trmancothat is trueNov 30 17:12
schestowitzThe biology Prof I know said it was here in the 50s, so the most vulnerable population (old people) hardly catches this fluNov 30 17:12
schestowitzIt's immune to it by exposure decades agoNov 30 17:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: do you still have flu in the household?Nov 30 17:13
schestowitzThere are adverts here that are designed to scareNov 30 17:13
schestowitzgreveNov 30 17:13
schestowitzThis commercial brought to you by Tamiflu(R)... http://is.gd/4ZDkW #swineflu #mass #hysteria #prevention #failNov 30 17:13
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/15188419Nov 30 17:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Georg C. F. Greve (greve) 's status on Friday, 20-Nov-09 14:09:40 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.35 KBNov 30 17:13
schestowitzhttp://gnuru.org/article/1490/broken-debian-stable-testing-installationNov 30 17:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: A Broken Debian unstable/testing Installation .::. Size~: 20.67 KBNov 30 17:14
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Nellie Kroes strengthening Microsoft monopoly with software patents: http://i5.be/V8Nov 30 17:30
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sebsebsebhiNov 30 17:37
schestowitzzoobab: it's an old videoNov 30 17:37
schestowitzYou clipped itNov 30 17:37
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Gemstar trivial patents for displaying TV grids scheduled voided in UK: http://i5.be/V9Nov 30 17:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Google Traduction .::. Size~: 1.14 KBNov 30 17:38
schestowitzzoobab: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/29/neelie-kroes-on-microsoft-patents/Nov 30 17:39
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Patent 049 was excluded because Justice Mann ruled it to be plainly a computer program: http://i5.be/WaNov 30 17:41
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Virgin Media wins Gemstar EPG ruling | Broadband TV News .::. Size~: 34.58 KBNov 30 17:41
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Gemstar decision is published on Bailli here: http://i5.be/WbNov 30 17:48
schestowitzHaha. Geithner grilled well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHLghHNUqkNov 30 17:52
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Canada as police state for the olympics. Goodman detained. http://www.democracynow.org/2009/11/30/amy_goodman_detained_at_canadian_borderNov 30 18:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Amy Goodman Detained at Canadian Border, Questioned About Speech...and 2010 Olympics .::. Size~: 30.95 KBNov 30 18:14
PetoKrausso i watched the True Story of the Internet: Browser WarsNov 30 18:26
PetoKrausinterestingNov 30 18:26
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schestowitzPetoKraus: yeah, I did tooNov 30 18:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 3 hours ago I was contacted by Swiss television. They are filming a documentary and I was invited to be in itNov 30 19:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Eixil Group Forms New Deal with #Anustubh Labs - Around #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/gvtzNov 30 19:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Eixil Group partners with Anustubh Labs .::. Size~: 8.79 KBNov 30 19:29
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Storage #Server (XIV) Runs #GNU #Linux http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh113009-story04.htmlNov 30 19:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Introduction to #GNU #Linux as a Desktop Operating System http://ur1.ca/gvuxNov 30 19:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Shows Great Performance in New #Kernel Space #Benchmark http://bit.ly/5i5LCqNov 30 19:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: [Phoronix] FreeBSD 8.0 Benchmarked Against Linux, OpenSolaris .::. Size~: 21.17 KBNov 30 19:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] With #ChromeOS (Linux), #Google Has #Microsoft Playing Catchup http://www.itvoir.com/portal/boxx/knowledgebase.asp?iid=1712&Cat=23Nov 30 19:40
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft and Firefox engineering a Chrome web OS rival? - IT articles, Hardware & Software, Computer vendors in India, IT industry in India : Latest IT News .::. Size~: 116.05 KBNov 30 19:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review of #Thunderbird 3 RC1, List of #GNU #Linux Web #Browsers http://www.zath.co.uk/thunderbird-3-rc1-review-desktop-email-client/Nov 30 19:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Thunderbird 3 RC1 Review (Desktop Email Client) .::. Size~: 42.97 KBNov 30 19:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva #Cooker Shares Status Update http://ur1.ca/gse2Nov 30 19:55
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] K Desktop Environment Brings Back #Klassroom http://www.kdenews.org/2009/11/29/kde-community-forums-announce-continuation-klassroom #kdeNov 30 19:55
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Noteworthy changes in Mandriva Cooker 15 November  29 November « Frederik's Blog .::. Size~: 24.41 KBNov 30 19:55
phIRCe-BNcTitle: KDE Community Forums Announce the Continuation of Klassroom | KDE.news .::. Size~: 11.13 KBNov 30 19:55
sebsebsebChrome OS stuff uh huh, hopefuly will give Microsoft some good competition, because of it gaining a good market shareNov 30 19:55
sebsebsebwent on the article just now for that schestowitz  ,but  also just been on the on you gave for Thunderbird 3Nov 30 19:55
sebsebsebThunderbird 3 will be pretty good I thinkNov 30 19:56
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu PCs at Discount, 10.04 Timeline Posted http://ur1.ca/gvzc http://ur1.ca/gvzdNov 30 19:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle: System76 Ubuntu PCs: Cyber Monday Sale  | WorksWithU .::. Size~: 41.63 KBNov 30 19:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu blogspot: Lucid Lynx Timeline .::. Size~: 159.87 KBNov 30 19:58
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New GNU/Linux Experiences Positive on Desktop (Ubuntu Case) http://randomgeekguys.blogspot.com/2009/11/my-experience-with-ubuntu.htmlNov 30 20:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Random Geek Guys: My Experience with Ubuntu .::. Size~: 144.01 KBNov 30 20:00
schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, I lookm forward to itNov 30 20:02
schestowitzBut...Nov 30 20:02
schestowitzI reckon extensions will take a while to be compatibleNov 30 20:02
schestowitzI use many extensions and they need the developers doing updatesNov 30 20:02
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sebsebsebsure, well that's the case with major new  versions of Firefox as wellNov 30 20:03
sebsebsebit takes a while, before most of the add ons that worked before work with the new oneNov 30 20:03
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Archos Uses #Linux to Approach Developers http://ur1.ca/gw0m http://ur1.ca/gw0oNov 30 20:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Archos releases developer edition firmware for Internet Tablets -- Engadget .::. Size~: 155.29 KBNov 30 20:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Archos 5 & Archos 7 Tablets Get New Developer Firmware [Archos Releases Special Developer Edition Firmware for Its Internet Media Tablets]  » TFTS  Technology, Gadgets & Curiosities .::. Size~: 32.68 KBNov 30 20:07
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Phones Ahead of #Apple in Several Naughty Areas http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10405884-94.htmlNov 30 20:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Droid does, iPhone doesn't: The porn app store | Wireless - CNET News .::. Size~: 145.86 KBNov 30 20:08
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Linux #Phones Seen in #Nokia 's Future http://ur1.ca/gw0z http://ur1.ca/gw11Nov 30 20:09
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Nokia N900 - Part tablet - part cell phone | Cell Phones .::. Size~: 62.99 KBNov 30 20:09
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux and #FreeSoftware Proposed for More #Election Systems (Ghana) http://ur1.ca/gw17Nov 30 20:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Takeover of #MySQL by #Oracle Defended by Some, FUDed by Others http://ur1.ca/gw2v http://ur1.ca/gw2yNov 30 20:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open-source culture at heart of Oracle deal | mydigitalfc.com .::. Size~: 62.67 KBNov 30 20:18
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #EU #Policy Looks Like a Scandal http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/the-swift-scandal-of-lisbon/ #acta #lisbonNov 30 20:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The SWIFT scandal of Lisbon «  Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 16.99 KBNov 30 20:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Extend Landgrab Against #FairUse http://techdirt.com/articles/20091126/1131247095.shtmlNov 30 20:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Copyright Law Changes In India Could Gut Fair Use | Techdirt .::. Size~: 43.41 KBNov 30 20:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Major Milestone Against Software #Patents in UK http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2009/11/27/virgin-wins-gemstar-epg-case/ #swpatNov 30 20:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Virgin Media wins Gemstar EPG ruling | Broadband TV News .::. Size~: 34.58 KBNov 30 20:27
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft's #Vista7 Causes Problems for #Office Customers http://ur1.ca/gw54Nov 30 20:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: How Microsoft Conspires To Anger Paying Office Customers | Lifehacker Australia .::. Size~: 52.73 KBNov 30 20:28
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Neat Explanation of Why #ODF Should be Used for All Communication http://ur1.ca/gw5mNov 30 20:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open formats over open words .::. Size~: 10.94 KBNov 30 20:31
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schestowitzsebsebseb: yes, well, I look forward to TB3Nov 30 20:35
schestowitzI've used it since version 0.9 or something like thatNov 30 20:35
schestowitzI was on kmail before thatNov 30 20:35
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] well, my first attempt with Arch was a complete fail, so I'm back on MintNov 30 20:58
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chowderso...why boycott Novell?Nov 30 21:04
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC orders production company to pay compensation after misleading viewers http://tinyurl.com/ya6z7nrNov 30 21:10
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trmancoplasma leaks a bit :|Nov 30 22:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #HelgeSander Helps #Microsoft Again by Blocking #ODF in #Denmark http://ur1.ca/gwf6 #ooxmlNov 30 22:04
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schestowitztrmanco: yesNov 30 22:05
schestowitzIt also takes memory as time goes by, so I restart itNov 30 22:05
schestowitzBut with this Linux and KDE version I get better performance even with a lot of swapNov 30 22:06
schestowitzIn Mand 2008.1 it would slow down a lot more if using disk as RAMNov 30 22:06
trmancoI just do kquitapp plasma-desktopNov 30 22:06
trmancowaitNov 30 22:06
trmancoplasma-desktopNov 30 22:07
trmanco^^Nov 30 22:07
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More on the Hidden Costs of #Vista7 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/30/vista-7-office-compatibility/Nov 30 22:16
phIRCe-BNcTitle: More on the Hidden Costs of Vista 7 | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 110.78 KBNov 30 22:16
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #CrunchPad is dead http://ur1.ca/gwgyNov 30 22:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The CrunchPad disappears in a puff of vapor -- Engadget .::. Size~: 220.92 KBNov 30 22:26
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Obama squashes rights of accused #terrorists http://ur1.ca/gwh4Nov 30 22:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Supreme Court upholds Obama ban on release of detainee torture photos - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 46.77 KBNov 30 22:31
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linux_stuhelloNov 30 22:32
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cubezzzblech, I might have to get my customer a windows laptopNov 30 22:44
linux_stuuh ohNov 30 22:45
cubezzzand not bother to get anything for myselfNov 30 22:45
linux_stuwhy's that?Nov 30 22:45
cubezzzto get a linux based laptop/netbook I would have to import Nov 30 22:45
Ender2070this is awesome, tom green says bill gates doesnt have ballsNov 30 22:45
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRUwXfoGEwNov 30 22:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] E-WolfShade's Linux Tutorials, Poetry, and Quotes: Changing the Firefox logo in Linux http://tinyurl.com/yl6elgdNov 30 22:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: E-WolfShade's Linux Tutorials, Poetry, and Quotes: Changing the Firefox logo in Linux .::. Size~: 64.23 KBNov 30 22:47
schestowitzHey, linux_stuNov 30 22:47
linux_stuhi schestowitz Nov 30 22:47
linux_stui was googling for moonlight 2 for linux, and found out about this irc channel :)Nov 30 22:48
schestowitzEnder2070: Tom Green is still around????Nov 30 22:48
Ender2070schestowitz - yes but hes been severely watered downNov 30 22:48
schestowitzHe's hilarious.Nov 30 22:48
MinceRhttp://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/30/1818207/Dell-Defect-Turning-22GHz-CPU-Into-100MHz-CPU?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29Nov 30 22:48
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | Dell Defect Turning 2.2GHz CPU Into 100MHz CPU? .::. Size~: 136.11 KBNov 30 22:48
schestowitzI used to watch him weekly on MTV back in Jackass daysNov 30 22:48
Ender2070yeahNov 30 22:49
Ender2070i love his showNov 30 22:49
Ender2070now he has like some talk show type of thingNov 30 22:49
Ender2070with heavy censorshipNov 30 22:49
schestowitztom green - bum bum song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd4DtJFm2XMNov 30 22:49
Ender2070this is my fav: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3rSvgHD0NANov 30 22:52
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google ’s Quick Booting of Microsoft (and Why Google Should Not Hire from #Microsoft ) http://ur1.ca/gwj1Nov 30 22:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Googles Quick Booting of Microsoft (and Why Google Should Not Hire from Microsoft) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 116.5 KBNov 30 22:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Mac vs Pc vs Linux vs Google+myspace | Linuxers - Funny as hell http://tinyurl.com/ydtxv99Nov 30 23:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Mac vs Pc vs Linux vs Google+myspace | Linuxers .::. Size~: 31.22 KBNov 30 23:08
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patent Tax and #Microsoft Tax in #Europe : An Update http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/30/gemstar-acta-eu-leak/Nov 30 23:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Patent Tax and Microsoft Tax in Europe: An Update | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 113.72 KBNov 30 23:22
schestowitzEnder2070: I think I can remember itNov 30 23:24
Ender2070?Nov 30 23:24
schestowitz> See Andrew Orlowski slag off climate-change scientists, with comments disabled - yet again. Perhaps you could direct him to this site...Nov 30 23:27
schestowitz> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/Nov 30 23:27
schestowitz> http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/11/30/0152244/Where-the-Global-Warming-Data-IsNov 30 23:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: RealClimate: Data Sources .::. Size~: 42.61 KBNov 30 23:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Science Story | Where the Global Warming Data Is .::. Size~: 207.27 KBNov 30 23:27
schestowitzEnder2070: it's an old videoNov 30 23:27
schestowitzMaybe he was too immature even for MTV :-)Nov 30 23:27
schestowitzHe did one show with Monica Lewinski, which was oddNov 30 23:28
schestowitz> Nov 30 23:28
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/crugate_analysis/Nov 30 23:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Climategate: Why it matters • The Register .::. Size~: 26.61 KBNov 30 23:28
schestowitz"The allegations over the past week are [..]  that climate scientists [..] withheld and destroyed data they should have released as good scientific practice"Nov 30 23:28
schestowitzThe Register.... typical Orlowski baitNov 30 23:29
schestowitzNo comments allowedNov 30 23:29
*ThistleWeb has quit ("Lost terminal")Nov 30 23:32
Ender2070i still think they are using global warming for this http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6922245.eceNov 30 23:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Birth control: the most effective way of reducing greenhouse gas emissions - Times Online  .::. Size~: 119.58 KBNov 30 23:40
Ender2070population controlNov 30 23:40
Ender2070and who decides who gets to have kids?Nov 30 23:40
schestowitzhttp://techdirt.com/articles/20091125/1242447090.shtmlNov 30 23:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Italian Prosecutors Assume Google Execs Read All YouTube Comments; Demands Jailtime Over Video | Techdirt .::. Size~: 56.33 KBNov 30 23:43
schestowitzI don't know if you already know this, but for the past year or two (as long as I've watched it),  TiVo has been abusing competitors using software patents, not just TiVoization (against hacking). They are getting what they deserve now. From the news at http://techdirt.com/articles/20091125/1306497092.shtmlNov 30 23:48
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Suing For Patent Infringement No Replacement For Actually Building A Real Business | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.99 KBNov 30 23:48
schestowitzEnder2070: rich people have more kids, I reckonNov 30 23:49
schestowitzThose "fit to live"Nov 30 23:50
schestowitzBut that's what I said about population controlNov 30 23:50
schestowitzThere is no question about the requirementNov 30 23:50
schestowitzBecause of peak oilNov 30 23:50
schestowitzWe cannot even grow food well without this supply of oilNov 30 23:50
schestowitzMillions of years of liquid energy used up in just decadesNov 30 23:50
schestowitzThe question is -- like with globalisaiton -- how might birth control be managed?Nov 30 23:51
schestowitzWho gets to set the rules?Nov 30 23:51
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1563855/foxconn-acer-contractNov 30 23:52
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How many idiots will rush to put themselves on an Orwellian database? http://ur1.ca/gwn8Nov 30 23:55
schestowitzWTx?? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/border_fingerprint_checks/Nov 30 23:55
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Border agency to start fingerprint checks • The Register .::. Size~: 27.65 KBNov 30 23:56
schestowitzIt's becoming like the US....Nov 30 23:56
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/rake_broadband/Nov 30 23:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Villagers revolt over BT chairman's broadband • The Register .::. Size~: 23 KBNov 30 23:58

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