| _goblin | stunning... | Dec 02 00:00 |
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| _goblin | you would not imagine her with him. | Dec 02 00:00 |
| _goblin | I was trying to find a real photo | Dec 02 00:00 |
| _goblin | can't atm. | Dec 02 00:00 |
| trmanco | she is pretty? | Dec 02 00:01 |
| _goblin | yep... | Dec 02 00:01 |
| _goblin | very.... | Dec 02 00:01 |
| trmanco | hmmm | Dec 02 00:02 |
| *Diablo-D3 (n=diablo@64.223.238.130) has joined #boycottnovell | Dec 02 00:04 | |
| _goblin | with only watching from 98...you missed HBK v Bret Hart.....one of the few real assaults in WWE history.... | Dec 02 00:05 |
| trmanco | I still see HBK | Dec 02 00:05 |
| _goblin | 97 survivor series main event - "Iron man match" | Dec 02 00:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware in #UK #Government Enters Another Political Round http://ur1.ca/gywm http://ur1.ca/gywo | Dec 02 00:05 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Government outlines five year IT strategy • The Register .::. Size~: 30.91 KB | Dec 02 00:05 |
| trmanco | but never seen that Rivalry | Dec 02 00:05 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC News - Tories attack leaked five-year IT plan as 'unambitious' .::. Size~: 57.5 KB | Dec 02 00:05 |
| _goblin | Bret spits on Vince Mcmahon, then punches him out... | Dec 02 00:05 |
| trmanco | heh | Dec 02 00:05 |
| trmanco | great times | Dec 02 00:05 |
| trmanco | when Vince use to wrestle to get his ass kicked | Dec 02 00:06 |
| _goblin | it was a real assault because VM screwed Bret out of the belt just as he was leaving WWE for WCW | Dec 02 00:06 |
| _goblin | Bret was told he could keep the belt and would win the main event.....Vince got the ref to count Bret to 3 very quickly thus loosing the belt... | Dec 02 00:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #FreeSoftware in #Schools and #University http://ur1.ca/gywq http://ur1.ca/gyws | Dec 02 00:07 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: An Open Source Tool for Every Task - 12/1/2009 - School Library Journal .::. Size~: 69.7 KB | Dec 02 00:07 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: DE: Open source professorship at University of Erlangen-Nuremberg — .::. Size~: 27.41 KB | Dec 02 00:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Paper Explains Why Anticircumvention Impedes #Innovation http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1496058 | Dec 02 00:08 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: SSRN-The Imperfect is the Enemy of the Good: Anticircumvention Versus Open Innovation by Wendy Seltzer .::. Size~: 35.53 KB | Dec 02 00:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Punish the Innocent http://ur1.ca/gyx0 http://ur1.ca/gyx1 http://ur1.ca/gyx2 | Dec 02 00:10 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Should There Be Punishment For Bogus 'Pre-Settlement' Letters? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 45.78 KB | Dec 02 00:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Using faulty data to demand settlements from innocent surfers .::. Size~: 35.37 KB | Dec 02 00:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Virgin Media Using Deep Packet Inspection To Spy On Your Internet Usage For Hollywood | Techdirt .::. Size~: 52.55 KB | Dec 02 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Was it Owen Hart who died from the fall? | Dec 02 00:14 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, Bret was like 25 when I was a kid | Dec 02 00:14 |
| schestowitz | I doubt he's still in this wrestling scene, is he? | Dec 02 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: which is the Virgin Media link? | Dec 02 00:18 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: yep... | Dec 02 00:20 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: it was shortly after the Hell in the cell stunts and people thought it was part of the show for a few moments. | Dec 02 00:21 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: in the post? | Dec 02 00:21 |
| schestowitz | It's linked there | Dec 02 00:21 |
| schestowitz | I never liked BRet, my brother was his fan | Dec 02 00:21 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Wrestling with Shadows is a very good documentary about him..... | Dec 02 00:22 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/15893997 | Dec 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz Having trouble with the password reset in Boycott Novell. I cut and paste and it still won't let me in. | Dec 02 00:23 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Roy (linuxcanuck) 's status on Tuesday, 01-Dec-09 23:29:10 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.43 KB | Dec 02 00:23 |
| schestowitz | We have some technical issues there in WordPress | Dec 02 00:23 |
| _goblin | Ive not been happy with Wordpress...although in the last week its given me no issues. | Dec 02 00:24 |
| cubezzz | blogging about the current situation on Linux laptops/netbooks | Dec 02 00:28 |
| cubezzz | I'll put the link in here when it's done | Dec 02 00:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] it's unusual to listen to TLLTS with Pat in charge, ep 329, good job Pat | Dec 02 00:30 | |
| schestowitz | OK, BN is now running with less cache | Dec 02 00:35 |
| cubezzz | "Lemote has made China the third country in the world which is able to develop his own CPU's besides USA and Japan." | Dec 02 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I think I've cracked it (the problem) | Dec 02 00:35 |
| schestowitz | Cheap shot from Miguel de Redmond | Dec 02 00:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/11/miguel_de_icaza_1.html;jsessionid=YBDPFDBXOSNVPQE1GHPSKH4ATMY32JVN | Dec 02 00:41 |
| schestowitz | "But people like [the anti-Mono advocacy group] Boycott Novell do not write a single line of code, so I think there's advocacy coming from people who do not contribute in any real way." | Dec 02 00:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: InformationWeek.com .::. Size~: 89.52 KB | Dec 02 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, Miguel wrote code... | Dec 02 00:41 |
| schestowitz | "Every line of code that is written to our standards is a small victory; every line of code that is written to any other standard, is a small defeat." | Dec 02 00:41 |
| schestowitz | --MIcrosoft | Dec 02 00:41 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Dec 02 00:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 02 00:41 |
| cubezzz | I write code | Dec 02 00:41 |
| schestowitz | I do too, not as much as I used to | Dec 02 00:41 |
| cubezzz | he shouldn't make broad generalizations like that | Dec 02 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Now I spend more time with hypertext 'code' | Dec 02 00:42 |
| schestowitz | I do raw HTML | Dec 02 00:42 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: well, he does | Dec 02 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Serves him better | Dec 02 00:42 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Microsoft standard? Thats a contradiction in terms. | Dec 02 00:42 |
| schestowitz | At microsoft, standard means something relse | Dec 02 00:44 |
| schestowitz | They change language | Dec 02 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Standards means something else | Dec 02 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Like "we're the standard" | Dec 02 00:45 |
| schestowitz | They say stuff like that | Dec 02 00:45 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/09/20/microsoft-and-at-and-t/ | Dec 02 00:45 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Compares Its Monopoly to the Older Telephone Monopoly | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 127.78 KB | Dec 02 00:45 |
| schestowitz | MS: "Rather, we should call ‘to me’ to the industry and set a standard that works now and is for everyone’s benefit. We are large enough that this can work." | Dec 02 00:45 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft controls the retail and OEM sectors | Dec 02 00:47 |
| cubezzz | the situation isn't very good at all | Dec 02 00:47 |
| schestowitz | /controls/extorts/ | Dec 02 00:47 |
| cubezzz | hmm, Dell Canada dropped the price on their low end netbook | Dec 02 00:48 |
| cubezzz | ok, when I went shopping yesterday there was a ton of Intel Atom laptops/netbooks | Dec 02 00:49 |
| cubezzz | there was a few AMD | Dec 02 00:49 |
| cubezzz | damn, I hate Dell's web site | Dec 02 00:51 |
| schestowitz | There are many forgers here: http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?botgimp&1 | Dec 02 00:52 |
| schestowitz | Like 4 forgeries of me | Dec 02 00:52 |
| schestowitz | And of David Gerard | Dec 02 00:52 |
| cubezzz | now I can't find the Vostro A90 :-/ | Dec 02 00:58 |
| cubezzz | ah there it is | Dec 02 00:59 |
| cubezzz | ok, there's TWO! | Dec 02 01:04 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Dec 02 01:04 |
| cubezzz | Dell has two Linux computers, how will I ever decide, so much choice :) | Dec 02 01:05 |
| cubezzz | there's the Mini 10v and the Vostro A90 | Dec 02 01:05 |
| *shreddar (n=jeffrey@c-98-240-56-92.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Dec 02 01:09 | |
| cubezzz | ok, so there's Lemote YeeLoong 8089 (and others), Mini 10v and Vostro A90 | Dec 02 01:10 |
| schestowitz | "@linuxcanuck please please please try now. I think I've solved it by reducing cache" | Dec 02 01:11 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: got an account in BN? | Dec 02 01:11 |
| schestowitz | If so, could you try logging on/off? | Dec 02 01:11 |
| cubezzz | oh dear, actually no :) | Dec 02 01:11 |
| cubezzz | you want me to register? | Dec 02 01:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/12/01/squeezy_3d_mouse/ | Dec 02 01:12 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: British boffins talk up squeeze-to-control 3D mouse tech • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 20.11 KB | Dec 02 01:12 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: please, yes | Dec 02 01:12 |
| schestowitz | Earlier new accounts had issue | Dec 02 01:12 |
| schestowitz | I couldn't come up with even a mail account to test for (already occupied) | Dec 02 01:13 |
| cubezzz | ok, give me a minute | Dec 02 01:13 |
| shreddar | " the subpoena demands Gates hand over paperwork that reveal the “true and relative number of actual Xbox 360 units that have been fixed by Microsoft over the past 3 years.” Estavillo also seeks data pertaining to the number of broken Xbox 360 consoles and the amount of people banned from Xbox Live for “piracy” between November 28, 2008 and 2009" | Dec 02 01:14 |
| shreddar | I'd like to see that data myself | Dec 02 01:15 |
| cubezzz | ok, account created | Dec 02 01:15 |
| shreddar | I'd love reading MS's internal documents. | Dec 02 01:15 |
| shreddar | Their juicy | Dec 02 01:15 |
| shreddar | They're | Dec 02 01:16 |
| schestowitz | WordPress account, right? | Dec 02 01:16 |
| schestowitz | I realise some people create a Wiki account instead | Dec 02 01:16 |
| cubezzz | ummm, I think so | Dec 02 01:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1564189/the-crunchpad-dead | Dec 02 01:17 |
| schestowitz | If you can log in to the new account, then it's resolved | Dec 02 01:17 |
| schestowitz | DB cache must have cached list of users | Dec 02 01:17 |
| schestowitz | So it doesn't see new ones | Dec 02 01:17 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I'm logged in | Dec 02 01:19 |
| cubezzz | ok, 4 choices for Linux laptop/netbooks so far | Dec 02 01:21 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell the #Senate to stop the #bailout and #BenBernanke http://ur1.ca/gz0f #politics | Dec 02 01:21 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: No Accountability, No Bernanke | Progressive Change Campaign Committee .::. Size~: 6.25 KB | Dec 02 01:21 |
| cubezzz | and of course you can just pay the windows tax and put Linux on there after | Dec 02 01:21 |
| cubezzz | ok, blog is done | Dec 02 01:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/29/nick-griffin-bnp-copenhagen-summit | Dec 02 01:25 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: thanks a lot! | Dec 02 01:25 |
| schestowitz | I'm relieved to have gotten to the bottom of it... took a long time | Dec 02 01:26 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tell #HarryReid to #stfu and stop being a #douchebag http://ur1.ca/gz0j #politics | Dec 02 01:26 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Just listened to the Twitter #shotofjaq ep | Dec 02 01:27 | |
| shreddar | I bet that MS will come out with a Internet Explorer OS. | Dec 02 01:28 |
| shreddar | Maybe a couple of months after or before Chrome OS comes out. | Dec 02 01:29 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8389436.stm | Dec 02 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Check it out | Dec 02 01:29 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 93.15 KB | Dec 02 01:29 |
| schestowitz | "A Twitter feed set up by a Dutch teenager as a hobby has been taken over by Microsoft news channel MSNBC.com." | Dec 02 01:29 |
| shreddar | Or at least itl'll be announced around that time. | Dec 02 01:29 |
| cubezzz | http://maxhost.org/blog/linux-blog.html | Dec 02 01:29 |
| schestowitz | You should do a post about it | Dec 02 01:29 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Notes on Linux .::. Size~: 36.94 KB | Dec 02 01:29 |
| schestowitz | shreddar: yes, likely | Dec 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | They were doing some designs around something similar | Dec 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Firefox has its desktop app for Firefox apps | Dec 02 01:30 |
| shreddar | I just hope that Opera and Mozilla join in. | Dec 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | What was it called? Something like Kaleidoscope... | Dec 02 01:30 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Comes as no surprise.... | Dec 02 01:30 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: see what he "tweets" | Dec 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Or "they" | Dec 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Maybe lots of Microsoft adverts | Dec 02 01:31 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Im just about to post another Icaza post..I'll tackle that one tomorrow. | Dec 02 01:31 |
| schestowitz | OK.... | Dec 02 01:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] someone needs to do a parody of "that's entertainment" called "that's inovation" as a piss take about MS's IP claims | Dec 02 01:31 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Malware suspected of 'Black Screen' issue - It's always someone else's fault eh? http://tinyurl.com/yl94g36 | Dec 02 01:34 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC News - Malware suspected of 'Black Screen' issue .::. Size~: 57.99 KB | Dec 02 01:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Google to limit free news access http://tinyurl.com/yjwwpgv | Dec 02 01:35 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC News - Google to limit free news access .::. Size~: 49.56 KB | Dec 02 01:35 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Verizon hates the #Internet http://ur1.ca/gz1c | Dec 02 01:36 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Verizon Changes FiOS AUP, -1, Offtopic .::. Size~: 159.29 KB | Dec 02 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Root exploit for FreeBSD | Dec 02 01:36 |
| shreddar | I'll never pay for News. Atleast not the "news" they're putting out. | Dec 02 01:36 |
| cubezzz | at least blogs are honest, err *ahem* | Dec 02 01:37 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Dec 02 01:37 |
| shreddar | I'll never pay for blogs either. | Dec 02 01:37 |
| shreddar | For different reasons though. | Dec 02 01:37 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: goog | Dec 02 01:38 |
| schestowitz | and good | Dec 02 01:38 |
| schestowitz | hey are crippling themselves | Dec 02 01:38 |
| schestowitz | News sites will die more quickly | Dec 02 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Google gives them a death wish :-) | Dec 02 01:38 |
| ThistleWeb | I reckon some will experiment | Dec 02 01:39 |
| ThistleWeb | which will fail | Dec 02 01:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Icaza - "Anti-mono advocacy group"? http://tinyurl.com/y87ntvp #mono #novell #windows #linux #foss #xp #microsoft | Dec 02 01:39 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Icaza Anti-mono advocacy group? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 34.03 KB | Dec 02 01:39 |
| cubezzz | what is the cl domain? | Dec 02 01:39 |
| ThistleWeb | the newspapers are deluded about their own value | Dec 02 01:39 |
| schestowitz | By just looking at the headline from afar I knew who the author and publication will be: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article.php/3850376/Technologies-Holding-Back-the-Linux-Desktop.htm | Dec 02 01:40 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Technologies Holding Back the Linux Desktop — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 71.61 KB | Dec 02 01:40 |
| cubezzz | oh Chile :) | Dec 02 01:40 |
| schestowitz | He's always whining about how "Linux is not ready" and stuff | Dec 02 01:40 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: yes, I had a chat about it today | Dec 02 01:40 |
| cubezzz | but I use it for everything... | Dec 02 01:40 |
| schestowitz | I told my friend about imaginary value | Dec 02 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Many companies overvalues themselves | Dec 02 01:40 |
| schestowitz | They spoke how how much they will be worth _in the future_ | Dec 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | And they could show graphs going up | Dec 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | So their valuation was based on speculation | Dec 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Like those derivatives we not detest | Dec 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | And now newspapers have the Web | Dec 02 01:41 |
| shreddar | Icasa reads BN? | Dec 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | So their future is uncertain | Dec 02 01:41 |
| shreddar | Small web | Dec 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | They are overinflated in terms of staff | Dec 02 01:41 |
| schestowitz | shreddar: yes | Dec 02 01:41 |
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| ThistleWeb | I loved Rupe's comments about democracy "papers would have to stop endorsing specific candidates" - what about REPORTING the news, not trying to lead an agenda? | Dec 02 01:43 |
| ThistleWeb | they gave up the idea of being reporters long ago, and turned into journalists | Dec 02 01:43 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=118328 | Dec 02 01:44 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: MediaPost Publications Huffington: News Corp.'s Google-Free Ploy 'Ain't Gonna Happen' 12/01/2009 .::. Size~: 49.5 KB | Dec 02 01:44 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: hahaha! | Dec 02 01:44 |
| ThistleWeb | journalists are basicly people with opinions who do regular journals in some form to capture their feelings about an event.....which also applies to bloggers | Dec 02 01:44 |
| schestowitz | "papers would have to stop endorsing specific candidates," said Mr. FAUXxXX | Dec 02 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, stop endorsing | Dec 02 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Just 24/7 attacks on candidates | Dec 02 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Not endorsing | Dec 02 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Just slandering | Dec 02 01:45 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, the link to Bruce Perens petition is not working | Dec 02 01:45 |
| ThistleWeb | newspapers are all about opinion and agenda, hidden behind the term "reporting the news" | Dec 02 01:45 |
| schestowitz | FOX racists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AGCw1PLplc | Dec 02 01:46 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: expired? | Dec 02 01:46 |
| ThistleWeb | bloggers do the same thing without the deception, a blog is someones opinion, | Dec 02 01:46 |
| *magentar has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Dec 02 01:46 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Police refuse to arrest someone on a Judge's court order http://ur1.ca/gz1n #constitution #politics #liberty | Dec 02 01:46 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #SamAdams $150 #Beer banned in 13 states http://ur1.ca/gz1r | Dec 02 01:46 | |
| cubezzz | 404 | Dec 02 01:46 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Court vs. cops stalemate in Maricopa County - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 88.7 KB | Dec 02 01:46 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Associated Press: Boston brewer pushes new limits on extreme beer .::. Size~: 13.54 KB | Dec 02 01:46 |
| cubezzz | I guess so | Dec 02 01:46 |
| shreddar | I believe Linux has been ready for a long time now. | Dec 02 01:47 |
| cubezzz | yeah | Dec 02 01:47 |
| cubezzz | I wouldn't even consider using doze now | Dec 02 01:47 |
| shreddar | It's Hardware and Software maker haven't been ready. | Dec 02 01:47 |
| ThistleWeb | apparently, according to Rupe, democracy would suffer if news peeps couldnt run agendas and had to make their minds up unassisted by journalists | Dec 02 01:48 |
| ThistleWeb | I did hear that a news group are doing a 3 month experiment with paywalls on 6 of their local titles | Dec 02 01:48 |
| schestowitz | http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/12/01/1419238/The-Cloud-Ate-My-Homework | Dec 02 01:48 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot IT Story | The Cloud Ate My Homework .::. Size~: 162.22 KB | Dec 02 01:48 |
| shreddar | With GNU/Linux we could have long had a renaissance of computers electronics. | Dec 02 01:49 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: nice! | Dec 02 01:49 |
| schestowitz | I LOV paywalls | Dec 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | They shut out the old media | Dec 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | *love | Dec 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | It's like a couple of our propagandists deciding to only consult on a fee | Dec 02 01:50 |
| schestowitz | shreddar: esp. in developing world | Dec 02 01:50 |
| shreddar | It's just that the right people weren't inspired. | Dec 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | developing world = euphemism for underdeveloped world (usually abused or retarded by the West) | Dec 02 01:51 |
| ThistleWeb | the only place I see paywalls working is for niche areas | Dec 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Like..? | Dec 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Here's the thing | Dec 02 01:51 |
| ThistleWeb | celeb gossip stuff? no chance | Dec 02 01:51 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Please extradite #spammer #LanceAtkinson so he has to pay $16 million fine http://ur1.ca/gz20 | Dec 02 01:51 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Spammer Lance Atkinson Fined $16 Million .::. Size~: 136.93 KB | Dec 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | It's a matter of time before the free substitutes see the opportunities | Dec 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | Like patent publications | Dec 02 01:51 |
| schestowitz | there are free ones | Dec 02 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Those that are not still rely on print | Dec 02 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Decreasingly | Dec 02 01:52 |
| ThistleWeb | even with niche stuff, the only peeps likely to pay are buisness types who can write it off, or earn so much that they dont notice | Dec 02 01:52 |
| ThistleWeb | or if they feel it's needed for work and there's no alternative | Dec 02 01:52 |
| shreddar | I think we could have had Chrome OS in 95. The Internet was poplar enough to warrant a cheap Internet connected device. | Dec 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Netscape worked on it | Dec 02 01:53 |
| ThistleWeb | I do think the news industry are scrambling around to find a solution, but these experiements will fail | Dec 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft saw the threat | Dec 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Netscape was going to build something broader from the app | Dec 02 01:53 |
| ThistleWeb | anyone who understands how the net works can see that | Dec 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | And later came NC | Dec 02 01:53 |
| ThistleWeb | but maybe they need to see it for themselves to believ it | Dec 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | There was also the portability of Java | Dec 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | And all sorts of Java phones | Dec 02 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Remember the Java phone? | Dec 02 01:54 |
| cubezzz | Netscape died and Firefox took it's place | Dec 02 01:54 |
| schestowitz | http://news.google.com/archivesearch?um=1&cf=all&ned=uk&hl=en&q=Java+phone&cf=all&scoring=n&sugg=d&sa=N&lnav=d0&as_ldate=2005&as_hdate=2009&ldrange=2001%2C2004 | Dec 02 01:55 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Java phone - Google News Archive Search .::. Size~: 36.72 KB | Dec 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla | Dec 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | I used Mozilla browser before Firefox too | Dec 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | 1.7 | Dec 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Konqueror was less capable | Dec 02 01:55 |
| schestowitz | kde 3.1 | Dec 02 01:55 |
| cubezzz | I was using gopher in the 80's | Dec 02 01:55 |
| cubezzz | the pre-doze world ;0 | Dec 02 01:56 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congressman #PeterKing is a #douchebag and hates #Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/gz26 #politics | Dec 02 01:56 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Politics Story | US Congressman Announces Plans To Probe Wikileaks .::. Size~: 156.61 KB | Dec 02 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Linux is finally "ready for the desktop^TM": http://www.wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/winetricks/winetricks-20091125-released-adds-ie-7-support.html | Dec 02 01:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Joys of #fogcomputing ... http://it.slashdot.org/story/09/12/01/1419238/The-Cloud-Ate-My-Homework | Dec 02 01:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] damnit, why do I have ideas for major projects when there's plenty more still in the works? | Dec 02 01:57 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot IT Story | The Cloud Ate My Homework .::. Size~: 161.29 KB | Dec 02 01:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft gave Netscape a gopher they can't refuse | Dec 02 01:58 |
| schestowitz | Remember the illegal deal attempts from Microsoft | Dec 02 01:58 |
| schestowitz | They tried to make an illegal deal with Netscape, which declined | Dec 02 01:58 |
| cubezzz | yes, but the netscape guys all became rich | Dec 02 01:59 |
| cubezzz | it's not like they were standing around with zero money | Dec 02 01:59 |
| cubezzz | anyway, that's not the most important thing | Dec 02 02:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/01/youtube-may-expand-into-tv-show-biz | Dec 02 02:00 |
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| schestowitz | it's everywhere. Big Gee... | Dec 02 02:00 |
| cubezzz | you could be the richest guy in the cemetary but.... | Dec 02 02:00 |
| schestowitz | It's not that | Dec 02 02:01 |
| schestowitz | Netscape was more than a few people | Dec 02 02:01 |
| schestowitz | anD they sold to AOL | Dec 02 02:01 |
| schestowitz | AOL got the settlement money | Dec 02 02:01 |
| schestowitz | But they sold the company | Dec 02 02:01 |
| schestowitz | The world got Gecko | Dec 02 02:01 |
| cubezzz | it's not like I admired the netscape guys | Dec 02 02:02 |
| cubezzz | that was just Big Evil vs Smaller Evil | Dec 02 02:03 |
| cubezzz | it did have the positive result, after the browser wars, everyone was on their guard against Microsoft | Dec 02 02:04 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft's rep was shot up a lot | Dec 02 02:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RD: @davide89v: #nobel2rms #Nobel rms fighting for human rights http://ur1.ca/gxaa #gnu #fsf #libreplanet #linux #ubuntu #debian #gentoo | Dec 02 02:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/group/nobel2rms | Dec 02 02:05 |
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| cubezzz | I knew what Stallman was trying to do a long time ago | Dec 02 02:05 |
| cubezzz | it just took a lot longer than I expected | Dec 02 02:05 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Scientology charged with slavery, human trafficking http://ur1.ca/gz2n #douchebag | Dec 02 02:06 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Child-tasering #police officer fired http://ur1.ca/gz2v #douchebag #policestate | Dec 02 02:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_region/20091124_3d-place_winner_disqualified_in_Sudoku_scandal.html | Dec 02 02:07 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 3d-place winner disqualified in Sudoku scandal | Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/24/2009 .::. Size~: 106.72 KB | Dec 02 02:07 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3 is on a ramage tonight :) | Dec 02 02:07 |
| schestowitz | That's OK | Dec 02 02:07 |
| schestowitz | I'm following these links, using some for later | Dec 02 02:08 |
| oiaohm | Knowing RMS he wins a nobel peace prise he is most likely not to turn up | Dec 02 02:08 |
| cubezzz | he might, he's accepted other awards | Dec 02 02:08 |
| schestowitz | He'd turn up | Dec 02 02:09 |
| schestowitz | If the invitation is a PDF/ODF | Dec 02 02:09 |
| schestowitz | He's put off by proprietary stuff | Dec 02 02:09 |
| schestowitz | He probably didn't show up for the spurious honorary PhDs | Dec 02 02:09 |
| schestowitz | Other like Knuth would not, eitherl | Dec 02 02:10 |
| schestowitz | My uncle was offered one (honorary) | Dec 02 02:10 |
| schestowitz | He declined | Dec 02 02:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: my news feeds are full of awesome shit today | Dec 02 02:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/11/kindle-2-finally-gets-native-pdf-support-screen-rotation.ars | Dec 02 02:11 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Kindle 2 finally gets native PDF support, screen rotation .::. Size~: 33.14 KB | Dec 02 02:11 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] OK Go - WTF? http://ur1.ca/gz31 #acidtrip | Dec 02 02:11 | |
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| *Diablo-D3 steals that from schestowitz | Dec 02 02:12 | |
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| schestowitz | One of the most viewed videos in YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI&NR=1 (OK Go - Here It Goes Again) | Dec 02 02:14 |
| cubezzz | Kindle is good, but I'm waiting for the price to go down | Dec 02 02:14 |
| schestowitz | 77,341 comments | Dec 02 02:14 |
| schestowitz | I reckon the submitter didn't read em all | Dec 02 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: Im waiting for people to make good twitter killers | Dec 02 02:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | err | Dec 02 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | good kindle killers | Dec 02 02:15 |
| *Diablo-D3 does less drugs, srsly | Dec 02 02:15 | |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, have you looked at Sony's ereader? | Dec 02 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowit: yeah, its pretty nifty | Dec 02 02:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: Im waiting for the color prototypes companies have to go mass produced | Dec 02 02:15 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Amazon #Kindle 2s get native PDF reading, stop being useless #DRM ware for the most part http://ur1.ca/gz36 | Dec 02 02:16 | |
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| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0711587130.shtml | Dec 02 02:21 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #SteveBallmer painted in #BOSD http://ur1.ca/gz4a | Dec 02 02:41 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Oh crap, they made more? http://ur1.ca/gz4d #familyguy | Dec 02 02:41 | |
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| yuhong | "Seems pretty simple to me, but then I am allegedly rather “monochromatic”." | Dec 02 02:43 |
| yuhong | Funny. | Dec 02 02:43 |
| yuhong | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Monochrome_Display_Adapter | Dec 02 02:43 |
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| yuhong | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrome_display | Dec 02 02:44 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Microsoft #Vista 8... seriously!? http://ur1.ca/gz4h | Dec 02 02:46 | |
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| schestowitz | Hey, yuhong | Dec 02 02:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | there, no more news | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Vapourware | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | So early!! | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Wasn't the same with VIsta | Dec 02 02:49 |
| schestowitz | I'd prepare another lump of news for BN, then zzzzzzzzzzzzzs | Dec 02 02:53 |
| yuhong | Hopefully you won't call it Vista 8, as it would be getting ridiculous. | Dec 02 03:00 |
| yuhong | "Seems pretty simple to me, but then I am allegedly rather “monochromatic”." | Dec 02 03:00 |
| yuhong | Funny. | Dec 02 03:00 |
| yuhong | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Monochrome_Display_Adapter | Dec 02 03:00 |
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| yuhong | On user logins, yes I remember having to refresh pages in order for them to reflect the state change. | Dec 02 03:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://uruknet.de/index.php?p=m60597&hd=&size=1&l=e | Dec 02 03:47 |
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| cubezzz | what is with these turtle slow web sites | Dec 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz | gn | Dec 02 03:58 |
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| fewa | "In America you can get a pizza delivered to your house faster than you can get an ambulance to your house " | Dec 02 05:26 |
| fewa | LOL | Dec 02 05:26 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #SteveBallmer painted in #BSOD http://ur1.ca/gz4a | Dec 02 05:31 | |
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| Atlas2070 | Order a pizza, order him to take you to the hospital :D | Dec 02 07:17 |
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| zahzam | year, next time you crash you car, are impaled on the stearing column, losing blood and starting to pass out from shock, you call domino's order a ham and pineapple pizza and a coke, and in 10 minutes you get a 16 year old school kid arrive in a 1982 honda civic, or call an ambulance and get 3 highly trained paramedics, and $250,000 dollar vehicle specifically designed to save your life... I know which one I would choose :).. | Dec 02 08:36 |
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| satipera | google change of policy http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article6940197.ece | Dec 02 08:44 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Tim Berners Lee to me yesterday: "Software patents are a terrible thing" | Dec 02 09:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://trueslant.com/level/2009/12/01/new-york-23rd-district-loser-doug-hoffman-circulates-more-stolen-election-news-acorn-obama-birther-fraud-vote-count-2010/ | Dec 02 09:55 |
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| DaemonFC | Machines in Louisville, Waddington, Clare, and Rossie ?broke? early in the voting process on Election Day. Republican Commissioner Deborah Pahler said that the machines kept ?freezing up? like Windows does all the time?. | Dec 02 09:56 |
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| satipera | Just working my way down yesterday's links and realised I was late drawing attention to Google to limit free news access | Dec 02 10:00 |
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| schestowitz | Mutex ban-evasion | Dec 02 10:05 |
| fewa | "The power of Nightmares" | Dec 02 10:06 |
| fewa | is the main theme actually serious? | Dec 02 10:06 |
| fewa | its such arrogence | Dec 02 10:06 |
| fewa | this training that people are inherently evil--except those in power | Dec 02 10:07 |
| fewa | its just classic dogma justification | Dec 02 10:08 |
| cubezzz | hmmm? | Dec 02 10:08 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares | Dec 02 10:08 |
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| fewa | http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares | Dec 02 10:09 |
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| fewa | its almost an attempt to legitimize elitism | Dec 02 10:09 |
| fewa | I watched "The Trap" by the same producer and liked it | Dec 02 10:09 |
| fewa | this isdea that the elite much "free" the masses | Dec 02 10:11 |
| cubezzz | What does someone with a lot of power want? | Dec 02 10:12 |
| cubezzz | More power | Dec 02 10:12 |
| fewa | no | Dec 02 10:12 |
| fewa | power is fickly | Dec 02 10:12 |
| fewa | *fickle | Dec 02 10:12 |
| fewa | hegemony | Dec 02 10:12 |
| fewa | worship | Dec 02 10:12 |
| cubezzz | That would explain Gates' behaviour | Dec 02 10:13 |
| fewa | you have to creat something that lasts | Dec 02 10:13 |
| fewa | mythologize, and remove human elements that can be challenged | Dec 02 10:13 |
| fewa | become soverign | Dec 02 10:13 |
| fewa | power is only the first stage | Dec 02 10:13 |
| fewa | the second stage is legitimization of power | Dec 02 10:13 |
| cubezzz | ok, maybe not more power but more control | Dec 02 10:14 |
| fewa | still not | Dec 02 10:14 |
| fewa | its only the solidification of that control | Dec 02 10:14 |
| oiaohm | Powre of Nightmares is both cubezzz | Dec 02 10:14 |
| fewa | to make sure there is no challenger | Dec 02 10:14 |
| oiaohm | What is the point of power without control. | Dec 02 10:14 |
| cubezzz | true | Dec 02 10:14 |
| fewa | the gaining of power is delegated to minions | Dec 02 10:14 |
| cubezzz | http://tuxmobil.org/cpu_arm.html | Dec 02 10:15 |
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| fewa | well, ok | Dec 02 10:15 |
| cubezzz | might be worth a look | Dec 02 10:15 |
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| cubezzz | I'm not surprised that someone like Stallman came along | Dec 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | fewa: yes, "The Power of Nightmares" is good | Dec 02 10:17 |
| oiaohm | Problem with massive power revelotion of some form is only a short way around. | Dec 02 10:17 |
| fewa | idk | Dec 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | I was surprised it came from the BBC | Dec 02 10:17 |
| fewa | its about the propaganda | Dec 02 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Weren't they among those spreading the WoMD FUD? | Dec 02 10:17 |
| fewa | but its just too off-putting for me | Dec 02 10:18 |
| fewa | such arrogence | Dec 02 10:18 |
| fewa | The Trap was much more a societial problem | Dec 02 10:18 |
| cubezzz | Yin and yang | Dec 02 10:18 |
| cubezzz | we have Gates, so we have Stallman to balance things out | Dec 02 10:18 |
| fewa | cubezzz, ? | Dec 02 10:18 |
| fewa | its all about making shit up to control people | Dec 02 10:18 |
| fewa | making people stupid | Dec 02 10:18 |
| cubezzz | yeah sorry, I went on a tangent there :) | Dec 02 10:19 |
| fewa | but even them are disillusioned | Dec 02 10:19 |
| fewa | they are the barbarians | Dec 02 10:19 |
| fewa | thats what is so arrogent | Dec 02 10:20 |
| fewa | its the justification of forced subserviance | Dec 02 10:20 |
| fewa | a cult | Dec 02 10:20 |
| cubezzz | cults don't seem to work too well | Dec 02 10:23 |
| fewa | its just a differn't type | Dec 02 10:25 |
| fewa | its a large myth | Dec 02 10:25 |
| fewa | "the big lie" | Dec 02 10:25 |
| fewa | that gains its own power | Dec 02 10:26 |
| fewa | and is used by the media | Dec 02 10:26 |
| fewa | if fact it really comes from the media | Dec 02 10:26 |
| fewa | maybe thats my main crit of the film | Dec 02 10:26 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @glynmoody: RT @zoobab Tim Berners Lee to me yesterday: "Software patents are a terrible thing" >> go go go, Sir Tim #heroes #swpats | Dec 02 10:26 | |
| fewa | you cant do such things without a media | Dec 02 10:26 |
| fewa | a subserviant one | Dec 02 10:27 |
| fewa | the movie ignores the propaganda part | Dec 02 10:27 |
| fewa | what the actors are gaining | Dec 02 10:27 |
| fewa | the gaft, etc | Dec 02 10:27 |
| fewa | its pure greed and arrogence for power | Dec 02 10:27 |
| fewa | "those dreams failed" | Dec 02 10:29 |
| fewa | thats quite hasty | Dec 02 10:29 |
| fewa | and begs the question | Dec 02 10:29 |
| fewa | its from quite a wierd perspective | Dec 02 10:29 |
| fewa | that of an orchestrator | Dec 02 10:30 |
| fewa | "spread unquestioned" | Dec 02 10:30 |
| fewa | of course, anything that serve elites is unquestioned | Dec 02 10:30 |
| fewa | ...by the elites | Dec 02 10:30 |
| fewa | "restored their power and authority" | Dec 02 10:31 |
| fewa | not really | Dec 02 10:31 |
| fewa | Its just a form of fundamentalism | Dec 02 10:33 |
| fewa | but yes the connection between neoliberals and the islamists is quite real | Dec 02 10:34 |
| fewa | the US neocon establishment has long funded the most opressive and fundamentalist regimes in the middle east | Dec 02 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Saddam? | Dec 02 10:41 |
| fewa | yes | Dec 02 10:42 |
| fewa | Taliban | Dec 02 10:42 |
| fewa | Saudi Arabia | Dec 02 10:42 |
| fewa | UAE | Dec 02 10:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux a Top Technology of This Decade http://www.infoworld.com/t/hardware/top-five-business-technologies-00s-305 | Dec 02 10:45 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's #Desktop Vision Based on #GNU #Linux http://www.mydigitalfc.com/it-enabled-services/google-eyed-view-world-wide-web-748 | Dec 02 10:46 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Chooses #GNU #Linux for #Tivoli Servers http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/30/ibm_tivoli_monitoring_amazon_ec2/ | Dec 02 10:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android (Linux) Phones Selling Very Fast http://gigaom.com/2009/11/30/droid-q4-sales/ | Dec 02 10:48 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Screenshots of the New Linux Mint 8 http://www.my-seo-company.com/index.php?linux&release=Mint%208 | Dec 02 10:49 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Market of #Android (Linux) Applications Comes to #Archos http://phandroid.com/2009/11/30/android-market-on-archos-5-internet-tablet/ | Dec 02 10:52 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Gets New #PalmOS Emulator for Its #Linux Platform http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=15937 | Dec 02 10:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Improves #Qt Significantly http://ur1.ca/gzm1 http://ur1.ca/gzm2 #kde | Dec 02 10:55 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Concludes New #Firefox Competition http://blog.mozilla.com/extendfirefox/2009/11/30/extend-firefox-3-5-winners/ | Dec 02 10:56 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] amazing new phone experience?? First Else http://bit.ly/7Bvxye | Dec 02 10:56 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sun - #Oracle Acquisition Analysed, #EU Hearing Near http://ur1.ca/gzm4 http://ur1.ca/gzm7 | Dec 02 10:57 | |
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| oiaohm | The open source game in phones is only starting. I am interested to see what phone makers do with 6 sence. | Dec 02 10:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Concludes This Year's #Android / #Linux Competition http://bit.ly/4sMPUr | Dec 02 11:00 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ways of Rescuing Music from #Apple 's #DRM Hell, on #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/gzmc | Dec 02 11:01 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ruby on Rails 2.3.5 is Released http://ur1.ca/gzmd #ror http://ur1.ca/gzme | Dec 02 11:02 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: A Fresh Cup - Home - Rails 2.3.5 Unofficial Release Notes .::. Size~: 29.91 KB | Dec 02 11:02 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia Shows That #Patent Portfolios Are Misused by Diminishing Companies http://ur1.ca/gzmi #badnokia | Dec 02 11:03 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's "Henchman" Rupert Murdoch Cripples #Google ? http://ur1.ca/gzmn http://ur1.ca/gzmo http://ur1.ca/gzmp | Dec 02 11:04 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Dana Blankenhorn on Microsoft's "Protection Racket" http://ur1.ca/gzmq | Dec 02 11:06 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Takes Over #Twitter Account to Spread Its Commercial Propaganda http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8389436.stm | Dec 02 11:06 | |
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| oiaohm | Nokia one is o boy this could get hot. We could have the first patent MAD event. schestowitz | Dec 02 11:06 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rebuttal to #FUD from Microsoft's #NBC and #Patent #Lobbying Partner, #GE http://ur1.ca/gzmt | Dec 02 11:08 | |
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| schestowitz | fewa: Saudi Arabia too? | Dec 02 11:10 |
| fewa | well | Dec 02 11:10 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Sixth Sense is going free software | Dec 02 11:10 |
| schestowitz | fewa: they are friends with the Bin Ladens, I know that | Dec 02 11:11 |
| fewa | the US would rather them in power than almost anyong else | Dec 02 11:11 |
| schestowitz | And other royals | Dec 02 11:11 |
| fewa | like a chavez or something | Dec 02 11:11 |
| schestowitz | I recently learned that the US actually treated Osama at a hospital | Dec 02 11:11 |
| schestowitz | They denied it | Dec 02 11:11 |
| schestowitz | But the French press reported it | Dec 02 11:11 |
| schestowitz | Chavez has the 'curse' of standing on top of a lot of black stuff (oil) | Dec 02 11:12 |
| schestowitz | Chavez is no imminent threat to anyway | Dec 02 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Wait till they say he is an Islamists' apologists or something | Dec 02 11:13 |
| schestowitz | That therefore he shelters the -red- TERRO~1 threat | Dec 02 11:13 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Apple could countersue Nokia | Dec 02 11:14 |
| oiaohm | Really Apple countersue Nokia would be a loss schestowitz. | Dec 02 11:23 |
| oiaohm | Apple started the argument with nokia. Patenting gestures on touch screens schestowitz | Dec 02 11:24 |
| oiaohm | Remember other companies like motoroal over lap with nokia patents on interfaces and don't have to pay for it schestowitz. | Dec 02 11:26 |
| oiaohm | Nokia sueing the LCD makers if they gang up they do have the patents to make nokia life a living hell. schestowitz | Dec 02 11:27 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Vapourware After #Vista7 Starts Much Earlier Than #Vapourware After #Vista http://ur1.ca/gznq | Dec 02 11:41 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Vapourware After Vista 7 Starts Much Earlier Than Vapourware After Vista | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 90.36 KB | Dec 02 11:41 |
| schestowitz | <http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/linux.alpha.idg/index.html> | Dec 02 11:42 |
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| schestowitz | "The Windows NT customer base is made of purchasers with a herd | Dec 02 11:42 |
| schestowitz | mentality. The Linux customer base is made of decision makers who are | Dec 02 11:42 |
| schestowitz | willing to take risks in order to get the fastest, most cost-effective, | Dec 02 11:42 |
| schestowitz | and most reliable solution." | Dec 02 11:42 |
| schestowitz | <http://daringfireball.net/2009/10/herd_mentality> | Dec 02 11:43 |
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| schestowitz | "So of course there’s some degree of herd mentality in every industry. | Dec 02 11:43 |
| schestowitz | But I think it’s more pronounced, to a pathological degree, in the PC | Dec 02 11:43 |
| schestowitz | hardware industry." | Dec 02 11:43 |
| fewa- | wtf | Dec 02 11:47 |
| fewa- | PC hardware should be standardized | Dec 02 11:47 |
| fewa- | it should be comptible | Dec 02 11:47 |
| fewa- | biggest problem is resistance to change | Dec 02 11:47 |
| fewa- | ie using SATA and block layer for flash drives/SSDs | Dec 02 11:47 |
| fewa- | but that is largely due to XP/Windows | Dec 02 11:48 |
| fewa- | not really the improvements in hardware | Dec 02 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Hardware is relatively compatible | Dec 02 11:52 |
| schestowitz | Less room for abuse there | Dec 02 11:53 |
| schestowitz | USB is Intel though | Dec 02 11:53 |
| fewa- | PCI, PCI-E | Dec 02 11:53 |
| fewa- | lots of Intel | Dec 02 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is responsible for a lot of incompatibilities, IBM and Sun did the opposite | Dec 02 11:53 |
| schestowitz | "What we are trying to do is use our server control to do new protocols and lock out Sun and Oracle specifically" --Bill Gates | Dec 02 11:53 |
| fewa- | SMB violation of MIT's copyrights | Dec 02 11:54 |
| fewa- | bastardization of Kerebos | Dec 02 11:54 |
| oiaohm | What people don't get is when the lock out fails so does windows. | Dec 02 12:03 |
| MinceR | it's failing already. | Dec 02 12:04 |
| MinceR | slowly though... | Dec 02 12:04 |
| oiaohm | This is them having issues. | Dec 02 12:04 |
| oiaohm | Not what I call failing. | Dec 02 12:04 |
| oiaohm | Like if samba ADS takes off in windows server rooms. That would be failing in a big way MinceR | Dec 02 12:05 |
| fewa- | http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=soj0107&article=010722 | Dec 02 12:09 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Dec 02 12:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GE , #Microsoft , #Comcast and (Microsoft AstroTurf at) Twitter: Pact of Lies http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/02/pack-of-lies-nbc/ | Dec 02 12:24 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Who is Behind #Psystar ? http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/02/who-is-behind-psystar/ | Dec 02 12:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mozilla #Firefox Cruises Past #InternetExplorer in #Germany http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/02/ie-firefox-and-icaza-goblin/ | Dec 02 12:58 | |
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| schestowitz | fewa: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/health/01well.html?_r=2 | Dec 02 13:13 |
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| fewa | LOLOLOL | Dec 02 13:14 |
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| fewa | yes, just be pious and everything will be OK | Dec 02 13:14 |
| fewa | please suffer more | Dec 02 13:15 |
| fewa | nobody will help you | Dec 02 13:15 |
| fewa | we don't give a shit, so you better have some believe in a god. Cause it ain't us fucker! | Dec 02 13:15 |
| fewa | http://www.barbaraehrenreich.com/brightsided.htm | Dec 02 13:16 |
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| fewa | Classic despondence upon the poor | Dec 02 13:17 |
| fewa | it YOUR problem | Dec 02 13:17 |
| fewa | so you better be happy about it! | Dec 02 13:17 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Email Steve Jobs to get your app approved http://bit.ly/8GSKqj | Dec 02 13:21 | |
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| schestowitz | Iomega Select 1TB External Hard Drive Hi Speed USB - Retail Box Black http://www.ebuyer.com/product/181159 | Dec 02 13:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.euractiv.com/en/energy/court-rules-russia-yukos-case/article-187869?Ref=RSS | Dec 02 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748703300504574567711684786166.html that's more smearing of the Web by Murdoch's bunch; next up: Wikipedia FUD. Rinse, repeat. | Dec 02 13:43 |
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| schestowitz | "@glynmoody Why feed articles that are stupid rather than a rebuttal to them? Just asking..." | Dec 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz | "http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2009/12/what_technology_1.php | Dec 02 13:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/11/29/2009-11-29_tweet_gangs_of_new_york_thugs_use_twitter_to_trashtalk_plan_fights.html | Dec 02 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz, ender2070: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/105726 | Dec 02 14:07 |
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| DaemonFC | News Corp threatening to pull content from Google would leave a higher News to Bullshit ratio | Dec 02 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | why does anyone care? | Dec 02 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: At least Comcast's cap is 250 GB a month | Dec 02 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | nobody should be hitting that anyway | Dec 02 14:09 |
| schestowitz | [14:08] <DaemonFC> News Corp threatening to pull content from Google would leave a higher News to Bullshit ratio | Dec 02 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Yes, that's why I love the idea | Dec 02 14:10 |
| schestowitz | They turn away people | Dec 02 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Their whole cap is based on readership | Dec 02 14:11 |
| schestowitz | They lower their value by desaturating | Dec 02 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125972422227872335.html | Dec 02 14:11 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Comcast's caps are not good for those with remote backup | Dec 02 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana is only the 16th most populous state in the nation but it has sent the fourth greatest number of people into the military to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, officials here say. Kokomo, in the center of the state, has a high concentration of veterans and has suffered a disproportionate number of casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. | Dec 02 14:11 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry | Dec 02 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Indiana won't go for Obama again | Dec 02 14:12 |
| schestowitz | Peace Nobel Laureate will bring "peace to the region" | Dec 02 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | many votes for him here were from military families that wanted their sons and daughters and wives and husbands back | Dec 02 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | and Obama is Bush the 2nd | Dec 02 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | (on that anyway) | Dec 02 14:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRx-GlEyis#t=60 | Dec 02 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | we're not pulling out, we're pressing our military even harder than before | Dec 02 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | Stop Loss will be invoked more and more | Dec 02 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | you'll start to see more soldiers go on psychotic rampages from mental fatigue | Dec 02 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no law requiring Obama to stick to summer of 2011 to pull out of Afghanistan | Dec 02 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Or suicide | Dec 02 14:15 |
| schestowitz | There's this epidemic too | Dec 02 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | Congress is spineless | Dec 02 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | they should deny funding until he has to order the withdrawal | Dec 02 14:15 |
| schestowitz | [scientes] ♻ @tamenem: Army Responds to “Near Epidemic” of Suicide http://bit.ly/6nm4Of @democracy_now had this story 2 weeks ago http://ur1.ca/gwyh | Dec 02 14:15 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Army Responds to Near Epidemic of Suicide | Secrecy News .::. Size~: 20.21 KB | Dec 02 14:15 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah schestowitz, but it's not just the military | Dec 02 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | suicide is up everywhere right now cause of the unemployment and such | Dec 02 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | people lost all or most of what they thought was a retirement fund | Dec 02 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | then they lost the job | Dec 02 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | then they lost their health insurance on themselves and family | Dec 02 14:17 |
| schestowitz | If I were Google I'd ban WSJ even without waiting for him to do so | Dec 02 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | then the sheriff evicts them while the bank sells their home | Dec 02 14:17 |
| schestowitz | It would stop the pathetic man from whining | Dec 02 14:18 |
| schestowitz | ANd calling them "theives" | Dec 02 14:18 |
| schestowitz | *thieves | Dec 02 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Notice there was hundreds of trillions of dollars to make sure Goldman Sachs could still throw cigar parties and shower down bonuses | Dec 02 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | but not one cent to help people who had been victimized in shoddy mortgages | Dec 02 14:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no, everything is fine with homeowners. | Dec 02 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Goldman has faced public ridicule for setting aside nearly $17 billion for year-end bonuses after receiving a $10 billion taxpayer bailout. The bank has paid back the government money."http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNews/idUSN1913051920091119 " | Dec 02 14:19 |
| schestowitz | See? | Dec 02 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Why panic? | Dec 02 14:20 |
| schestowitz | The economy is BLOOMING! | Dec 02 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What did they pay the government back with? | Dec 02 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | The proceeds from the sheriffs sales? | Dec 02 14:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't know | Dec 02 14:20 |
| schestowitz | But it looks like "Failed State" | Dec 02 14:21 |
| schestowitz | When a bunch of crook take over from within | Dec 02 14:21 |
| schestowitz | "Doing God's work" | Dec 02 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | it's not all bad, schestowitz | Dec 02 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | retail goods prices are falling | Dec 02 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | video rentals prices have even gone down | Dec 02 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | places are sweetening their prices to get customers to come back | Dec 02 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's a great time to be on a fixed (but guaranteed) income | Dec 02 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | I have stuff I never could have bought before | Dec 02 14:23 |
| schestowitz | [14:22] <DaemonFC> video rentals prices have even gone down\ | Dec 02 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Oh, good | Dec 02 14:23 |
| schestowitz | More fantasy | Dec 02 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Second Life too | Dec 02 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | possibly | Dec 02 14:23 |
| schestowitz | So people can live in Hollywood's delusion, under CRTubes | Dec 02 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's all about efficiency | Dec 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Said Ballmer | Dec 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Last month | Dec 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz | To sell Vista 7 | Dec 02 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | ways to get costs down without affecting quality | Dec 02 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart does business on a very large scale | Dec 02 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | even something as mundane as getting the amount of packaging materials used on every widget down by 5% makes a huge difference | Dec 02 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | suddenly that's a hundred less 52' semi trailers you have to haul every day | Dec 02 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | so then you fire the 100 drivers and you don't have to insure the trucks or fuel them | Dec 02 14:26 |
| fewa | <DaemonFC> News Corp threatening to pull content from Google would leave a higher News to Bullshit ratio | Dec 02 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | and it even takes less manpower to load and unload | Dec 02 14:27 |
| fewa | meh, not sure it would make much of a difference | Dec 02 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | and less materials cost to package | Dec 02 14:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you see the video I shared here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRx-GlEyis#t=60 | Dec 02 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Wal-Mart=Red Market | Dec 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | It's like communism, with foxed (minimum) wage | Dec 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | *fixed | Dec 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Although Foxed would sound appropriate too | Dec 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | The Republic of USSA | Dec 02 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is not communism | Dec 02 14:28 |
| schestowitz | For the workers maybe | Dec 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Feudalism maybe | Dec 02 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | but either system gives equally horrible results for average people | Dec 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | What would you call it then? | Dec 02 14:29 |
| schestowitz | When there remains just one retail store? | Dec 02 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Barely regulated capitalism | Dec 02 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | almost free market, but there's some sham regulations they have to follow | Dec 02 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | they really don't | Dec 02 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | the government turns a blind eye to most of their violations | Dec 02 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't see them doing that | Dec 02 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | They're just not the right store for every income level | Dec 02 14:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/01/psystar_settlement/ | Dec 02 14:31 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They've made no progress in trying to run Aldi, Dollar General, Family Dollar, the two Owens (Kroger) grocery stores out of town here | Dec 02 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | and our KMart is still around | Dec 02 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | despite the massive Walmart the size of six football fields | Dec 02 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | their strength is also their weakness, schestowitz | Dec 02 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | nobody wants to run into a store that size to grab one or two items | Dec 02 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | they're not the cheapest grocer | Dec 02 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | they don't have the best customer service | Dec 02 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: If I have a cold and need something for it. I'm not going to walk 60 feet through the parking lost, 1,000 feet to the Walmart Pharmacy, same distance back after standing in line for 5-10 minutes | Dec 02 14:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's not happening | Dec 02 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | *lot | Dec 02 14:35 |
| schestowitz | [14:31] <DaemonFC> They're just not the right store for every income level | Dec 02 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather walk 15 feet into Walgreens, 20 feet to the cough medicine, check out right away, and get back to my car | Dec 02 14:35 |
| schestowitz | But it's about wages too | Dec 02 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Not just low prices | Dec 02 14:36 |
| schestowitz | There's a good documentary about the lesser understood long-term impact of their presence | Dec 02 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: ALDI manages to pay people a fair wage | Dec 02 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | they start out at $10.25 an hour at ALDI | Dec 02 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart will start out around $8, maybe | Dec 02 14:36 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] An even smaller #ITX from #VIA http://ur1.ca/gzza | Dec 02 14:36 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #WinMo 7 spotted, still sucks http://ur1.ca/gzzg #microsoft | Dec 02 14:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I agree that Walmart is exploiting people | Dec 02 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | they expect them to work jsut as hard for 30% less wages than a typical retailer | Dec 02 14:37 |
| schestowitz | [14:34] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: If I have a cold and need something for it. I'm not going to walk 60 feet through the parking lost, 1,000 feet to the Walmart Pharmacy, same distance back after standing in line for 5-10 minutes | Dec 02 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Shopping is a national sport | Dec 02 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Do exercise while you're at it | Dec 02 14:37 |
| schestowitz | People "go out" | Dec 02 14:37 |
| schestowitz | To shop for drinks | Dec 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Or to shop for food (dine) | Dec 02 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | I used to wonder how people could weigh 400 pounds, schestowitz | Dec 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Or "do their shopping" | Dec 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | It's a consumer's ecnomy | Dec 02 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | then I saw them riding the electric scooters and leaving old ladies to walk | Dec 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Less of a production/sharing economy | Dec 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Compare to Brazil | Dec 02 14:38 |
| schestowitz | People should "go out" not just to drive and then shop or dine (restaurants) | Dec 02 14:39 |
| schestowitz | There's nature too | Dec 02 14:39 |
| schestowitz | But the spiritual centre tends to be the mall | Dec 02 14:39 |
| schestowitz | This is where people commute, socialise, find self-fulfillment | Dec 02 14:39 |
| schestowitz | It's kind of sad | Dec 02 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Some people are closer to their sol | Dec 02 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Some people are closer to their soil | Dec 02 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Other people are closer to their oil | Dec 02 14:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 02 14:40 |
| schestowitz | The typo there might make sense | Dec 02 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Sol=Sun | Dec 02 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Not intended though | Dec 02 14:42 |
| schestowitz | The Sun is why many people got into religion in the first place, historically. Sun->Life->Father | Dec 02 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'm probably going to buy a Blu Ray player in January | Dec 02 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | not in the budget this month | Dec 02 14:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.livemint.com/2009/11/30231142/Naco-goes-slow-on-Avahan-trans.html?h=B "The programme did face criticism for the high cost of its projects and the high salaries it paid its staff. “The average cost per beneficiary per year among Avahan-supported programmes is $45. This is well below the UNAIDS guidelines of $90-100 per beneficiary for high-risk groups,” Alexander admitted." | Dec 02 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | "Gates funded Avahan is not easy to hand over to the government" | Dec 02 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | HIV is not a major concern | Dec 02 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | to me anyway | Dec 02 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | well, going on the numbers I've seen, you have a 1 in 100 chance of encountering a person with it, if you do have unprotected sex with them, your chance in about 1 in 10, and condoms are supposedly 98% effective in preventing transmission | Dec 02 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | so I want to know why all these people are screwing around like wild animals, without wearing any kind of protection | Dec 02 14:54 |
| MinceR | because they're wild animals | Dec 02 14:54 |
| MinceR | (apologies to non-human wild animals) | Dec 02 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | I've known three people wit hHIV/AIDS | Dec 02 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | all of them were reckless and totally irresponsible | Dec 02 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | and it was obvious that they did it to themselves | Dec 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | it's a problem in Africa | Dec 02 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | no, come to think of it, four people | Dec 02 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | and the one I just thought of is the worst out of all of them | Dec 02 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | and make that five, because I met another one in passing in the hospital while I was there with a friend | Dec 02 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | and took a look at his chart | Dec 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | OK, we get the point | Dec 02 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | that guy had a list of STDs | Dec 02 14:57 |
| schestowitz | You know quite a few people with HIV | Dec 02 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | yes, I do | Dec 02 14:57 |
| *MinceR knows no people with HIV | Dec 02 14:57 | |
| schestowitz | It's not important to count..... | Dec 02 14:57 |
| *schestowitz seen some people with HIv.... on TV | Dec 02 14:58 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's worse in reality | Dec 02 14:58 |
| fewa | I've known people with HIV | Dec 02 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | they don't accurately portray it on TV | Dec 02 14:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/12/01/Clojure-Theses | Dec 02 14:58 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: People also don't fully appreciate the side effects of the drugs | Dec 02 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | I think that if they knew what they were in for, a lot less people would go out and get it | Dec 02 14:59 |
| schestowitz | How do you know? Personal experience? | Dec 02 15:10 |
| schestowitz | These must have given you the health nightmare in Sept. | Dec 02 15:10 |
| schestowitz | *October | Dec 02 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/gnome-asia-summit-press-release/ | Dec 02 15:11 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've seen what happens when someone takes the medication | Dec 02 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | and when they don't | Dec 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz | http://gnomedesktop.org/node/4089 | Dec 02 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe trmanco ? | Dec 02 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's worse when they do, it just drags it out | Dec 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: in general or for AIDS? | Dec 02 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | HIV antiretrovirals, schestowitz | Dec 02 15:13 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: what? | Dec 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Never mind then, I thought you'd meant drugs in general | Dec 02 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | nasty side effects | Dec 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz | [14:59] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: People also don't fully appreciate the side effects of the drugs | Dec 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: develop openings | Dec 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz | *developer | Dec 02 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | wasting, tired all the time, rashes, throwing up, muscle pains and spasms... | Dec 02 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | I think the drugs can actually kill someone faster in some cases | Dec 02 15:14 |
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| jose_X | just in case have not seen this schestowitz: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Google-allows-publishers-to-apf-1587525556.html | Dec 02 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, jose_X | Dec 02 15:31 |
| jose_X | http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Google-allows-publishers-to-apf-1587525556.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode= | Dec 02 15:31 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Google allows publishers to limit free content - Yahoo! Finance .::. Size~: 90.23 KB | Dec 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | jose_X: yes, I posted about it last night | Dec 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Google should just boot Murdoch | Dec 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | They have tghe right | Dec 02 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | He slanders them and incites | Dec 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | They don't have an obligation to put up with his cr*p | Dec 02 15:31 |
| schestowitz | But for PR purposes they keep quiet | Dec 02 15:32 |
| schestowitz | jose_X: BTW, why use Yahoo!? | Dec 02 15:32 |
| schestowitz | They're in Microsoft's hands no with Bartzmer | Dec 02 15:32 |
| schestowitz | I dumped all their feeds | Dec 02 15:32 |
| jose_X | old habits die hard | Dec 02 15:33 |
| jose_X | i've cut back | Dec 02 15:33 |
| jose_X | there are various reasons I use x or y yahoo service, btw. | Dec 02 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Google News organises these well | Dec 02 15:37 |
| schestowitz | It also clusters related ones | Dec 02 15:37 |
| schestowitz | I'm hooked :-) | Dec 02 15:37 |
| schestowitz | That's why people use it. It serves people with what they need and want | Dec 02 15:38 |
| jose_X | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5haPG8OKAA_HpPfa6XLkRQ18X94MQD9CB67QO1 | Dec 02 15:38 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Associated Press: Google allows publishers to limit free content .::. Size~: 9.69 KB | Dec 02 15:38 |
| schestowitz | News sites merely use other people's quotes and incidents to 'manufacture' reports | Dec 02 15:38 |
| jose_X | new link, same thing | Dec 02 15:38 |
| schestowitz | So they do exactly the same thing is Google | Dec 02 15:38 |
| schestowitz | They 'exploit' people and events | Dec 02 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Yes, given the legal battled it's odd that Google temporarily hosts AP content | Dec 02 15:39 |
| jose_X | orig posting: http://googlenewsblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/update-to-first-click-free.html | Dec 02 15:40 |
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| schestowitz | Yikes: http://www.prevx.com/blog/141/Windows-Black-Screen-Root-Cause.html | Dec 02 15:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.indiatarget.com/cgi-bin/detailnews.cgi?id=9960 | Dec 02 15:41 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Swedish Presidency will put the centralisation of the patent system on the table tomorrow, software patents on the way to be validated in EU | Dec 02 15:44 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/12/microsoft_exec_google_like_cigarettes_a_tough_habit_to_break.html | Dec 02 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, jose_X | Dec 02 15:45 |
| schestowitz | * jono | Dec 02 15:45 |
| schestowitz | Liked that LUG Radio film. Seen it yesterday | Dec 02 15:45 |
| jono | hey | Dec 02 15:47 |
| jono | thanks schestowitz :) | Dec 02 15:47 |
| jono | the guy who did it did a wonderful job :) | Dec 02 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Indeed. Good editing | Dec 02 15:48 |
| schestowitz | I have to admit I never listened to LUG Radio | Dec 02 15:49 |
| schestowitz | I remember when Ted Haegar invited me to come to Wolverhampton in 2006 (before the "Deal") | Dec 02 15:49 |
| schestowitz | *ger | Dec 02 15:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/us-air-force-upgrading-playstation-3-linux-cluster-2614 | Dec 02 15:51 |
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| schestowitz | Andy Patrizio is attacking Kroes, as expected. http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3850286 | Dec 02 15:53 |
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| schestowitz | Open Source digg-clone Pligg plugs security holes < http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/12/open-source-digg-clone-pligg-p.html > | Dec 02 15:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Alan Grayson on the 'Federal' Reserve http://ping.fm/rQI1c | Dec 02 15:58 | |
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| jose_X | unfortunately, scoxq is moving up, schestowitz | Dec 02 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast is trying to force you into accepting paperless billing | Dec 02 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | nothing in it for you except maybe forgetting to pay the bill so they charge you a $7 late fee and a $25 collection fee | Dec 02 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The same Comcast rep that wanted my phone number replies here | Dec 02 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://tinobox.com/wordpress/smallbusiness/comcast-tricks-for-paperless-billing-customer-service-saves-the-day/ | Dec 02 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | (Not my post) | Dec 02 16:14 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Comcast tricks for paperless billing, customer service saves the day | There Is NO Box .::. Size~: 47.32 KB | Dec 02 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | !google Mark Casem | Dec 02 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=Mark+Casem&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | Dec 02 16:15 |
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| DaemonFC | he's been busy | Dec 02 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | "I am also sorry to learn that you are deciding to cancel your cable service. If you are interested, I can reach out to my contacts and see if we can offer a lower-rate package including both services for you. If you are interested, please send me the phone number listed on your account so that I can assist further." | Dec 02 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.complainthub.com/blog/thats-not-way-win-fans-comcast | Dec 02 16:16 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: That's not the way to win fans, Comcast | Complaint Hub .::. Size~: 14.57 KB | Dec 02 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently I was right, schestowitz | Dec 02 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | he wanted my phone number to bribe me | Dec 02 16:16 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Software engineering radio -> best podcast http://www.se-radio.net/ | Dec 02 16:26 | |
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| MinceR | http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/1717 | Dec 02 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | jose_X: SCOX? | Dec 02 17:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do a post about him | Dec 02 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Get him and Comcast bashful | Dec 02 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Remember: Comcast stuffed an FCC comittee by bribing people to attend | Dec 02 17:13 |
| schestowitz | *committee | Dec 02 17:13 |
| schestowitz | This is an inherently evil company | Dec 02 17:13 |
| schestowitz | MPAA wants to control your TV http://www.defectivebydesign.org/mpaa-drm-tv | Dec 02 17:22 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Resending @rms: Paranoia reigns amongst London cops http://ur1.ca/h0ad | Dec 02 17:36 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They're also railing against HDTVs even though people who can't or won't replace their old set have a government subsidized $10 box that lets them keep using the TV for over-the-air broadcasts anyway | Dec 02 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | and every cable box will output to standard definition even if the channel is HD | Dec 02 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | As I understand it, the FSF's primary concern about HDTV is that "You HAVE to buy one" and you don't | Dec 02 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | eventually your old TV will die anyway and they don't sell standard definition sets anymore | Dec 02 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like a new HDTV will cost you more than an equally sized SD set used to | Dec 02 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | I read some misinformed fear mongering | Dec 02 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | It's not about price | Dec 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | It's about the antifeatures | Dec 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Then there's the argument that they will try to force them by forcing you to buy a new set | Dec 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | But that's a straw man | Dec 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | It's not the buying, it's the device itself | Dec 02 17:46 |
| schestowitz | Here too there is a forced move off aerial and analogue | Dec 02 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm not too awful worried about that | Dec 02 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | I rent most movies anyway | Dec 02 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | there's a select few I actually want my own copy of | Dec 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Use the Web | Dec 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Don't entertain the MPAA-tainted stuff | Dec 02 17:48 |
| schestowitz | Don't let them entertain you, either | Dec 02 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's only like 50 cents to $2 to rent a DVD, depending what it is | Dec 02 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not like it's big bucks | Dec 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | And I'm not talking about their subliminal messages, either | Dec 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Just rent? | Dec 02 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Would you not rather save and share (legally) what you like? | Dec 02 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | I would be pissed if I bought a $25 movie or like a $70 series on Blu Ray and they wouldn't let me watch it for some stupid thing like the cables I was using | Dec 02 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Dec 02 17:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Cisco Brings #GNU #Linux to Small Businesses http://ur1.ca/h0cs | Dec 02 17:55 | |
| DaemonFC | telephone survey asked me when I go to the movie theater and how often | Dec 02 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | I told her whenever I can sneak in through the side door with pop and snacks on me | Dec 02 17:56 |
| amd-linux | hello folks | Dec 02 17:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Last.fm Chooses #GNU #Linux for Its #Servers http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49304380,00.htm | Dec 02 17:56 | |
| DaemonFC | I usually don't go to the theater though | Dec 02 17:56 |
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| DaemonFC | too much of a ripoff, everyone in there always wrecks the movie with beepers and phones and kids | Dec 02 17:57 |
| amd-linux | last.fm rocks. Very good service. Sometimes, however, too much load | Dec 02 17:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Graphics Stack to be Covered in #FOSDEM 2010 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc1OQ | Dec 02 17:57 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's the only place I know where you get a ticket, a large diet coke, and a bucket of popcorn and you somehow end up $20 lighter | Dec 02 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Now there's your ripoff | Dec 02 17:57 |
| amd-linux | cinema is extemely expensive | Dec 02 17:58 |
| amd-linux | is like oktoberfest - you pay a hidden entrance fee | Dec 02 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | the DVD, popcorn, and a 2 liter of soda at home amounts to all of $4, maybe | Dec 02 17:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Test Farm to #Benchmark #Linux and Other Kernels http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=phoronix_kernel_farm&num=1 | Dec 02 17:58 | |
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| schestowitz | Hey, amd-linux | Dec 02 17:58 |
| amd-linux | good evening, roy | Dec 02 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather just wait for the DVD | Dec 02 17:58 |
| amd-linux | 536 diggs and counting.... | Dec 02 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | it has to be a really good movie for me to bother with the theater | Dec 02 17:59 |
| amd-linux | my story about IE decline in Germany | Dec 02 17:59 |
| amd-linux | "my" | Dec 02 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | IE is in decline everywhere | Dec 02 18:00 |
| amd-linux | now on the entrance page of digg | Dec 02 18:00 |
| amd-linux | eat his, MS! | Dec 02 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | amd-linux: If you let a piece of meat rot long enough, not even the dogs will eat it | Dec 02 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | that's IE | Dec 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: movies are good corn corn farmers /sarcasm | Dec 02 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Dec 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Go watch a film, "support out farmers" | Dec 02 18:00 |
| schestowitz | *our | Dec 02 18:00 |
| amd-linux | true... but this part of windows is not even comparable to dog food | Dec 02 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Nobody has informed the MPAA of microwaved popcorn? | Dec 02 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | Hell, Jiffy Pop has been out since the 1960s | Dec 02 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | you could buy loose kernels in the bag and use a popcorn popper | Dec 02 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 18:01 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: cancerous | Dec 02 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | No schestowitz, hot fresh buttery popcorn is only at the movies | Dec 02 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | you can only buy it from them | Dec 02 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | they have IP rights on it ;) | Dec 02 18:01 |
| schestowitz | There's the register at the ticket office | Dec 02 18:02 |
| amd-linux | when you have children, you have no time or no babysitter to go to the theatres :-( | Dec 02 18:02 |
| schestowitz | For refreshers | Dec 02 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | Well, that argument of theirs was particularly braindead | Dec 02 18:02 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the /real/ office | Dec 02 18:02 |
| amd-linux | not even time for a DVD | Dec 02 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | very little corn is used to make popcorn | Dec 02 18:02 |
| schestowitz | When the whiny kids will force mommy to buy the $10 popcorn | Dec 02 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | and popcorn can be bought in many forms in many places | Dec 02 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Cinemas are a food business | Dec 02 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Sugar, water, acids and oil | Dec 02 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They do have good nachos though :) | Dec 02 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | very very salty nachos | Dec 02 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Dec 02 18:03 |
| schestowitz | They should sell cereal at the cinema | Dec 02 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Eat is out of the box | Dec 02 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Sugar coated for the spoilt brats | Dec 02 18:04 |
| schestowitz | "Hello. I would like to have a bucket of cornflakes" | Dec 02 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | popcorn, hot dogs (optional chili and/or nacho cheese), nachos (loaded with salt) | Dec 02 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, all kinds of candy | Dec 02 18:04 |
| schestowitz | "Bur sir, we only sell a bucket of air with some bits of corn it it..." | Dec 02 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Chocolate covered peanuts are my favorite | Dec 02 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Peanuts and chocolates are bad for your diet | Dec 02 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Those are like $3, but you can get a bigger box of them at the dollar store and sneak them in easily | Dec 02 18:05 |
| schestowitz | You get not enough fat content from the peanuts? | Dec 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | M&Ms...... | Dec 02 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | no wait, they're $3.75 at the movies and $1 at the dollar store | Dec 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | WHat's the big attraction of sneaking food into a hall? | Dec 02 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Imagine hiding corn when doing to the gym | Dec 02 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Cause the movies rapes you on pop and snacks | Dec 02 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | a large pop is like $3.50 | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | But it's a film | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | It's not a restaurant | Dec 02 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | popcorn is like $6 for a big tub of it | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Do you also eat when you go to the loo? | Dec 02 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I usually sneak in something | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Tab....... | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | For the tub.... | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Speaking of bathroom | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | "I'll have the tub, sir" | Dec 02 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | two cans of diet coke and maybe something to munch on | Dec 02 18:07 |
| schestowitz | Diet? | Dec 02 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not paying what they want for it | Dec 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | It's chemical stuff.... | Dec 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Just drink water | Dec 02 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Dec 02 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | good old chemicals | Dec 02 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | better living through science | Dec 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | You know, that thing which tastes like.... kind of like it makes you less thirsty when you are | Dec 02 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Caveman didn't have soda pops | Dec 02 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | poor bastards | Dec 02 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if they had divorve courts | Dec 02 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | alimony, child support | Dec 02 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | *divorce | Dec 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Naaa... | Dec 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | They discovered fire | Dec 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Then soda pops | Dec 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Then cave men made wheels | Dec 02 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Cause they needed to bring soda in large quantities | Dec 02 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: And then they burned in it for not having a guy that says God is talking to him officiate their marriage | Dec 02 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 02 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | marriage is a state of mine and a piece of paper | Dec 02 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | and an instant tax break | Dec 02 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | *mind | Dec 02 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | well, minimal break anyway | Dec 02 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Many jobs depend on matrimony | Dec 02 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Like divorce lawyers and pastors | Dec 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: If you go through and list all the benefits and liabilities of being married, you get a couple benefits and a laundry list of liabilities | Dec 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | first, the other one can ruin your credit rating | Dec 02 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | then there's divorce, child support, alimony, giving the other one half the things you bought, taking half the total debt which maybe they racked up 90% of it | Dec 02 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | you still take 50%, doesn't matter whose fault it was | Dec 02 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | oh yes, lawyers fees | Dec 02 18:13 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't see what there is in marriage that makes straight people think so highly of it as to want to defend it | Dec 02 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | something so terrible, combined with how much they hate gay people | Dec 02 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | they should be all too happy to give us that right | Dec 02 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's like being asked by the person you hate most to caste some kind of plague onto him | Dec 02 18:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Plays #Bluray http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc1Nw | Dec 02 18:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think, and this is just me, that if we didn't want it so bad, they'd give it to us eventually | Dec 02 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | they just have to think it was their bright idea to hand over such a pain in the ass | Dec 02 18:16 |
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| DaemonFC | we ask for it and they think we're trying to trick them | Dec 02 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | like there's some benefit of marriage that we figured out that has thus far eluded them | Dec 02 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's what's driving them crazy, personally | Dec 02 18:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Summary of #GNOME Developments, #Zeitgeist http://ur1.ca/h0eq http://ur1.ca/h0er | Dec 02 18:18 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenLogic Serves #CentOS http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenLogic-offers-CentOS-Linux-support-for-enterprises-873790.html | Dec 02 18:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | asking for marriage and children is worse than going out and getting GonoherpesyphilAIDS | Dec 02 18:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Results Coming, Looking Good http://ur1.ca/h0f2 http://ur1.ca/h0f4 | Dec 02 18:19 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13's Name Stakes http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/12/what-will-fedora-13-linux-be-n.html | Dec 02 18:20 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: In the grand scheme of things, bullets that the cavemen dodged..... | Dec 02 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | popcorn and nachos and chocolate peanuts are hardly up high on the list | Dec 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | I don't agree | Dec 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | I'm for civil service | Dec 02 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | and we must be doing something right if we live about twice as long as they did | Dec 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Something modest | Dec 02 18:21 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes people connect | Dec 02 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | I've stopped caring, schestowitz | Dec 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Even if a spouse can lose mental or physical appeal | Dec 02 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | I have myself and some people I care about | Dec 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | And when people grow older especially | Dec 02 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | the rest of the world can go solve their own problems | Dec 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Although it's a two-edged sword | Dec 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Many older couples stay together for convenience | Dec 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | You're gay, so you have a bias | Dec 02 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Sure, there's no norm of raising kids | Dec 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | It's possible, but not common | Dec 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | So the idea of marriage makes less sense to you | Dec 02 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: When my body is failing and I have Alzheimers, I would hope there's a Kevorkian around to help me | Dec 02 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want to be alive like that | Dec 02 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Ask kids whose mommy or daddy was away all day | Dec 02 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Is it physically possible for two people to love each other, live together, and have kids without a piece of paper? | Dec 02 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | What does the paper do but complicate things and make more business for lawyers? | Dec 02 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Does the paper stop mommy and daddy from cheating on each other? | Dec 02 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | From fighting? | Dec 02 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | you have all the same problems in or out of marriage, but the paper makes things much more difficult when the time comes to get out | Dec 02 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | and there's a 70%+ chance that that time will come in the first 10 years | Dec 02 18:26 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 02 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Tell my neighbor that she's not in debt she'll never pay because of her ex husbands credit card abuse | Dec 02 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone that I know that has been married has told me what a disaster it was and to avoid it even if it ever is an issue someday for me | Dec 02 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't see any reason to argue with all that experience | Dec 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's like watching someone walk into a minefield and blow themselves up, then someone else follows and blows up | Dec 02 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | Suppose walking into the minefield was expected of you by society, schestowitz | Dec 02 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | Do you walk in or say "To hell with society, this is MY life"? | Dec 02 18:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Top #Linux #Smartphones List (Android) http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/12/02/koy_2009_android/ | Dec 02 18:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | if you do walk in, either nothing happens or you get blown up | Dec 02 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | Marriage is like a game show where the prizes are "break even" and "lose everything you already have" | Dec 02 18:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeBSD Still Leaves #Apple in the Dust in Particular Areas http://ur1.ca/h0fq #bsd | Dec 02 18:30 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Acer Loves #ChromeOS (Linux), to Put it on Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/h0fs http://ur1.ca/h0ft | Dec 02 18:31 | |
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| schestowitz | Well, DaemonFC, marriage will still be glorified in film | Dec 02 18:33 |
| schestowitz | And romantic series | Dec 02 18:33 |
| schestowitz | And given that all cultures have it... | Dec 02 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: My hypothesis is that society's neuroses about gay people is the root cause of gay people tending to live such dysfunctional lives. | Dec 02 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Then I'm inclined to believe that it's better with matrimony than without | Dec 02 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | they actually cause a lot of the quirks that they later point to and make examples of | Dec 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Of course you want to break marriages | Dec 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Cause it justified your point of view | Dec 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | And your choices | Dec 02 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want to, it's just how things tend to happen | Dec 02 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | it's like saying I, as an objective observer, want the Ford Pinto to blow up | Dec 02 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | maybe they're just inclined to blowing up | Dec 02 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | screaming at me for having a certain satisfaction about the majority of marriages failing is another issue, because my feelings on the matter have no bearing on what is going on | Dec 02 18:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Twitter/Microblogging Should be Free(dom), Says Winer http://ur1.ca/h0g4 http://ur1.ca/h0g5 | Dec 02 18:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | Do I want the Pinto to explode? Does it matter? Maybe if I caused all of them to explode, right? | Dec 02 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | So you're approaching this as though I was the cause of every marriage that fails and you're the crime scene investigator | Dec 02 18:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Provably a Viable #BusinessModel http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/does-open-source-undermine | Dec 02 18:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | Why do I want them to fail? Spite. There's your answer if it matters why I feel a particular way about it. | Dec 02 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | no, maybe contempt would be a better word there | Dec 02 18:40 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #FreeSoftware Comes from EU #Governments http://ur1.ca/h0gt http://ur1.ca/h0gu | Dec 02 18:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Most things beneficial to a state are glorified in their cinema | Dec 02 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | you should know that already | Dec 02 18:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Web Standards Promoted by #Google http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_dumps_gears_for_html5.php | Dec 02 18:44 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Haystack 1.0 is Released http://toastdriven.com/fresh/haystack-10-final-released/ | Dec 02 18:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | people are becoming more like the movie Equilibrium, schestowitz | Dec 02 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone is docile, passive, taking pills for whatever reason | Dec 02 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | we're not to the point of being emotionless drones (yet), but we are drones and our emotions are being tampered with when we are "out of line" | Dec 02 18:45 |
| ender2070_ | DaemonFC - http://www.bell.ca/100HD | Dec 02 18:46 |
| ender2070_ | our phone company offers 100hd channels | Dec 02 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've been court ordered to take medication before, and submit to blood tests to prove I was on it | Dec 02 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | the court order expired and was not renewed | Dec 02 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | curiously, that happened when my insurance lapsed, tsk tsk | Dec 02 18:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Internet #Censorship in #Brazil and Google's #FogComputing Zone (Accident) http://ur1.ca/h0h8 http://ur1.ca/gzgy | Dec 02 18:47 | |
| DaemonFC | But why would the Psychiatrist demand a renewal when I couldn't pay him? | Dec 02 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | Am I alone in thinking the timing of the events might have been related? | Dec 02 18:48 |
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| phIRCe-BNc | But why would the Psychiatrist demand a renewal when I couldn't pay him? | Dec 02 18:48 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Am I alone in thinking the timing of the events might have been related? | Dec 02 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | O_O | Dec 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, all true | Dec 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | But you joined them | Dec 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | Lack of choice | Dec 02 18:49 |
| ender2070_ | yeah | Dec 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | And here you are renting from MAFIAA | Dec 02 18:49 |
| ender2070_ | you shouldn't have told them anything before | Dec 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | And taking pills | Dec 02 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | That guy still has not called | Dec 02 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | I have quite a bitchlist to cover | Dec 02 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Those same pills have almost killed you | Dec 02 18:50 |
| ender2070_ | what if he gave your number to a lawyer | Dec 02 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Then, you became a client of the insurance industry | Dec 02 18:50 |
| schestowitz | They love it when tell jiggle you like this... | Dec 02 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_: I'm sure he didn't | Dec 02 18:50 |
| ender2070_ | i've heard comcast is pretty evil | Dec 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: it's comcast | Dec 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | They don't need his number | Dec 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | They could look it up | Dec 02 18:51 |
| ender2070_ | did u check the TOS | Dec 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | And their AT&T peers could just do snoops anyway | Dec 02 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | They have my social security number, address, phone number | Dec 02 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | credit card number | Dec 02 18:51 |
| ender2070_ | yeah but not as a blogger | Dec 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | It had his name | Dec 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Ryan Farmer | Dec 02 18:52 |
| ender2070_ | ahh | Dec 02 18:52 |
| *schestowitz bets Comcast is having a roundtable discussion on hot to deal with the Daemon /sarcasm | Dec 02 18:52 | |
| schestowitz | "The baseball bat," shout the man in the corner | Dec 02 18:53 |
| ender2070_ | LOL | Dec 02 18:53 |
| schestowitz | "No, we need to be subtle," answers the lady gently | Dec 02 18:53 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, yeah," they are nod | Dec 02 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | add a real HD lineup and get rid of the idiots at your local office | Dec 02 18:53 |
| schestowitz | "So.... how about if we hired a bully," said the GM | Dec 02 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | problem solved | Dec 02 18:53 |
| schestowitz | "We'd be likely.... totally clean... he wouldn't know what hit him," the lady says | Dec 02 18:54 |
| ender2070_ | they probably took him seriously at first | Dec 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | "Hehe. And he won't have hands to blog with anymore," shrieked the GM | Dec 02 18:54 |
| ender2070_ | then they threw his site through alexa, and found out he has little traffic | Dec 02 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | no way to tell how much I have | Dec 02 18:54 |
| ender2070_ | alexa is a good way | Dec 02 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | I get lots of comments I don't approve | Dec 02 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | I know how much I get | Dec 02 18:55 |
| ender2070_ | just be careful, is all im recommending | Dec 02 18:56 |
| ender2070_ | if microsoft wanted to make me a deal, i would be extremely skeptical and cautious | Dec 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do a blog about it | Dec 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | something like, "how Comcast is silencing disgruntled customers" | Dec 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Give the details and names | Dec 02 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm going to let this guy say something first | Dec 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | I'd back that up if I could have it all. Comcast is a nasty company and it needs to be exposed for liaising with scum of the earth like Radian6 | Dec 02 19:01 |
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| DaemonFC | Cold War-like monitoring of bloggers saying bad things of them | Dec 02 19:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Abuse of Web Rights and Other Attacks Noted http://ur1.ca/h0if http://ur1.ca/h0ig http://ur1.ca/h0ih | Dec 02 19:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | Would be nice if they could actually spend money on upgrades instead of suppressing people that are tired of dealing with service that was already obsolete in the 90s | Dec 02 19:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Not Properly Enforced, Harm Creativity http://ur1.ca/h0is http://ur1.ca/h0it | Dec 02 19:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] From #Russia with Love... Windows-only "App" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/01/ransomware_turns_off_net_access/ | Dec 02 19:09 | |
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| amd-linux | lol | Dec 02 19:10 |
| ender2070_ | i sent someone a dmca notice today | Dec 02 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | here, you can't turn yourself in to the police for copying a DVD | Dec 02 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a crime | Dec 02 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's a crime to give or sell it to others | Dec 02 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | but not for yourself | Dec 02 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | you'd have to tell the MPAA so they can sue you for making your personal backup :P | Dec 02 19:13 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: When that guy calls I'm going to hit the recorder on my phone | Dec 02 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | save it as an audio file and upload that | Dec 02 19:24 |
| tessier | ender2070_: Why? | Dec 02 19:26 |
| ender2070_ | tessier - what do DMCA notices usually get sent out regarding? | Dec 02 19:27 |
| tessier | ender2070_: torrenting Linux distros | Dec 02 19:27 |
| tessier | ender2070_: indy bands distributing their own stuff | Dec 02 19:27 |
| ender2070_ | no | Dec 02 19:27 |
| tessier | ender2070_: Things people are embarrassed about being distributed on the net | Dec 02 19:28 |
| tessier | Co$ style | Dec 02 19:28 |
| ender2070_ | copyright infringement | Dec 02 19:28 |
| tessier | You have a sex video floating around out there? | Dec 02 19:28 |
| tessier | That's what they always call it, sure. | Dec 02 19:28 |
| ender2070_ | well as opposed to the MAFIAA, im legitimately using a dmca notice | Dec 02 19:28 |
| tessier | You snail mailed it, right? | Dec 02 19:30 |
| ender2070_ | nope | Dec 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_ used a night vision lens on his camcorder while making the sex tape | Dec 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | and 17 hits of ecstasy | Dec 02 19:31 |
| ender2070_ | no sex tape | Dec 02 19:31 |
| ender2070_ | an email | Dec 02 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_ is Paris Hilton's boyfriend dontcha know? | Dec 02 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 02 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Dec 02 19:32 |
| ender2070_ | i was about to say " i wish " but then i'd have STDs | Dec 02 19:32 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 02 19:32 |
| tessier | Not necessarily. | Dec 02 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_: Well, you'd have Paris Hilton, but what other diseases were you referring to? | Dec 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 02 19:33 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] There needs to be a guide book for shit artists called "Painting With Poop" :)) | Dec 02 19:33 | |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 02 19:33 |
| ender2070_ | she gets around | Dec 02 19:33 |
| tessier | Who does? | Dec 02 19:33 |
| ender2070_ | maybe not STDs, but it would be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway | Dec 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | so do I, but that's never stopped anyone | Dec 02 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 02 19:34 |
| ender2070_ | tessier - eh? | Dec 02 19:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] It could be a celeb book by Mr Hanky | Dec 02 19:40 | |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/02/news/economy/fdic_survey/ | Dec 02 19:58 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Complaints About #EIF v2 Abuse and Free Software FUD from #GeneralElectric (GE) http://ur1.ca/h0o5 | Dec 02 20:13 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but more than 17 million have just overdraft in the bank account, so who's better off? | Dec 02 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Those without debt and banking or those who are debt-saddled? | Dec 02 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Some say agriculture is an important future component. At least it sells something concrete | Dec 02 20:16 |
| tessier | Even better of course are this without so much debt and access to banking | Dec 02 20:24 |
| tessier | And banking is very important. So is the stock market etc. I didn't realize the importance of futures trading until I read: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Special-Delivery.aspx and the comments and started looking into it. | Dec 02 20:25 |
| tessier | The farmer couldn't do his job without banking or futures markets to spread the risk. He just can't afford it. | Dec 02 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Is it a good idea to pay someone to cash checks and to carry around large amounts of cash? | Dec 02 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | oh, don't forget $1.50 for a money order every time you pay a bill | Dec 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather just not spend more than I have in there | Dec 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | the only times I had overdrafts, it was actually a bank error or a merchant error | Dec 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | and they fixed it quickly | Dec 02 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | one was like 8 years ago when I opened the account and then wrote a check to Walmart for a computer, the bank hadn't finished setting up my account yet and so they were about to return it for insufficient funds when I caught them and made them fix it | Dec 02 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | the other was October of this year when I went to buy a computer on and installment plan and the merchant took out all $800 at once | Dec 02 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | and again, fixed and no overdraft fee | Dec 02 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | *an | Dec 02 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | every time I buy a computer, seems to cause some kind of a problem at the bank | Dec 02 20:35 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tim Berners-Lee: “Software Patents Are a Terrible Thing” #swpat #timbl http://ur1.ca/h0qu | Dec 02 20:46 | |
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| cubezzz | banks aren't too friendly | Dec 02 20:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Don't you just love apps that crach within a few clicks of using them? I'm looking at you #Kompozer | Dec 02 20:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Will #Eclipse Lose a #Microsoft Apologist or Will the Apologist Drive Others Out? http://ur1.ca/h0sn | Dec 02 21:15 | |
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| schestowitz | http://fellowship.fsfe.org/grant.en.html | Dec 02 21:15 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More signs of Asia becoming the next superpower http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1564423/dell-hands-european-operations-foxconn | Dec 02 21:21 | |
| ender2070_ | shestowitz - you should join | Dec 02 21:24 |
| ender2070_ | schestowitz - you should join | Dec 02 21:25 |
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| _goblin | hi all. | Dec 02 21:30 |
| _goblin | got quite a few posts today..including the first shill attack of Google Wave..... | Dec 02 21:30 |
| _goblin | as well as MS's latest "innovation" its Twitter for China!...140 chars max...Microsoft really is an innovator of new ideas. | Dec 02 21:31 |
| schestowitz | http://whatwillweuse.com/2009/12/01/november-2009-market-share-report/ | Dec 02 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. THey get in one month what BN gets in a day | Dec 02 21:32 |
| schestowitz | But watch the browser stats | Dec 02 21:32 |
| schestowitz | 74% Firefox! | Dec 02 21:32 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: what does Microsoft do in China? | Dec 02 21:33 |
| schestowitz | And what about their Twitter buy? | Dec 02 21:33 |
| _goblin | Juku.... | Dec 02 21:33 |
| schestowitz | The one reported in the BBC. | Dec 02 21:33 |
| schestowitz | You said you'd cover it | Dec 02 21:33 |
| _goblin | its a Twitterish idea for China by MS... | Dec 02 21:33 |
| _goblin | yep, got that covered... | Dec 02 21:33 |
| _goblin | Im posting a batch of articles shortly. | Dec 02 21:33 |
| _goblin | its related to the other Twitter story so Im keeping them together. | Dec 02 21:34 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/15947333 | Dec 02 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | Make sure you find out what happens in the MSNBC thing | Dec 02 21:35 |
| schestowitz | I didn't look closely at what's being tweeted by those tiwts | Dec 02 21:35 |
| schestowitz | Likely Microsoft agenda | Dec 02 21:35 |
| _goblin | Im running Shillinator on it at the moment.... | Dec 02 21:36 |
| schestowitz | http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/commit-count-loc.php?show&year=2009&sortBy=loc | Dec 02 21:38 |
| ender2070_ | shillinator? | Dec 02 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | http://gizmodo.com/5410862/chrome-os-and-android-are-destined-to-merge-somehow | Dec 02 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070_: ditto | Dec 02 21:39 |
| _goblin | ender2070: its my code that I use to find all those dubious MS twitter accounts...im working on other features and had some success with "textual recognition" which is able to identify if two posts are written by the same person (even if they try to hide their identity) | Dec 02 21:40 |
| ender2070_ | schestowitz - i dont think i would be eligible not being in europe | Dec 02 21:40 |
| ender2070_ | _goblin - amazing :) | Dec 02 21:41 |
| _goblin | ender2070: not really, its pretty simple.... | Dec 02 21:41 |
| _goblin | ender2070: text patterns are quite simple to spot (for a computer) | Dec 02 21:41 |
| _goblin | ender2070: and the searching of Twits is simply using a twitter binding for Python. | Dec 02 21:42 |
| _goblin | ender2070: for example, you Ender do not capitalize your "i"'s my code would pick up on that. | Dec 02 21:42 |
| ender2070_ | do you think it could be viable for newsgroups | Dec 02 21:42 |
| _goblin | ender2070: thats its main purpose. | Dec 02 21:43 |
| ender2070_ | are you going to release it too? | Dec 02 21:43 |
| _goblin | ender2070: Not sure.....I don't want to GPL it.....since it would mean releasing the source and giving away the secrets to the shills of how the program identifies a dupe poster.....sort of would defeat the object. | Dec 02 21:44 |
| _goblin | certainly for people here I'll be more than happy to give the code to. | Dec 02 21:45 |
| _goblin | its still being worked on at the moment though in respect of pattern recognition.... | Dec 02 21:45 |
| ender2070_ | i might be interested in the results too | Dec 02 21:48 |
| ender2070_ | of a certain individual on COLA | Dec 02 21:49 |
| ender2070_ | do you have to run it against a person and it looks for their style, or does it just look at everything trying to find similarities | Dec 02 21:49 |
| _goblin | ender2070: its a program I am using to brush up on Python....it really is simple stuff! In respect of COLA, yes that what I intended it for... | Dec 02 21:50 |
| _goblin | ender2070: ATM it uses two tkinter text boxes...you paste the text in and then the code runs a compare on the two boxes.... | Dec 02 21:51 |
| ender2070_ | ohhhh okay | Dec 02 21:51 |
| _goblin | in respect of Twitter features it simply performs a keyword and user search and displays the most likely shill posts. | Dec 02 21:51 |
| schestowitz | "This week, the Wikipedia supreme court saw fit to retract certain admin privileges from one of the site's most recognizable figures, UK press officer David Gerard, accusing him of disseminating private user data and "failing to maintain proper decorum in public fora."" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/the_end_of_the_wikipedia_good_old_boys_club/ | Dec 02 21:51 |
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| ender2070_ | interesting nonetheless | Dec 02 21:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard El Reg mocks you http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/the_end_of_the_wikipedia_good_old_boys_club/ | Dec 02 21:52 | |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/pcs_hp/ | Dec 02 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/type_45_viper_paams_fail/ | Dec 02 21:56 |
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| ender2070_ | yay i gotta send snailmail to hawaii | Dec 02 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. This is dynamite: | Dec 02 22:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/01/blair-financial-correspondence-guardian | Dec 02 22:11 |
| schestowitz | "• Can you explain what funds are paid into the Windrush Ventures No3 LP partnership, by whom and why? Both the Gates Foundation and the Gatsby Foundation list payments in to this unusual partnership, and according to the FT, these are for charitable Africa projects. But the sums listed are much less than the £6.4m fee for "management services" which the partnership pays out to other Blair entities, plus a listed profit." | Dec 02 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Busted | Dec 02 22:11 |
| schestowitz | "I note that Mr Blair has refused to answer any of our specific questions." | Dec 02 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Hehehe. http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=142591 Apparently I "believes the ADL/SPLC propaganda that Jones is "a dangerous radical right-wing extremist"." | Dec 02 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | Now I know what _goblin was referring to.... http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/02/microsoft-launches-twitter-esque-service-in-china | Dec 02 22:22 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Audio recording of the US Supreme court hearing on Bilski: http://i5.be/WG | Dec 02 22:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/02/google-offers-some-disturbing-suggestions | Dec 02 22:24 |
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| phIRCe-local | Hello World! | Dec 02 22:25 |
| trmanco | lol | Dec 02 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It crashed on the server for some reason | Dec 02 22:25 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: is this trunk or is it v0.2? | Dec 02 22:25 |
| schestowitz | Can't remember | Dec 02 22:25 |
| schestowitz | The downloadable one | Dec 02 22:25 |
| schestowitz | It was 10 days old at the time | Dec 02 22:26 |
| trmanco | they are all downloadable | Dec 02 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I'm waiting for the devs to add some features to it | Dec 02 22:26 |
| trmanco | LOL | Dec 02 22:26 |
| schestowitz | They had some gurrls interfering with development | Dec 02 22:26 |
| trmanco | I've heard | Dec 02 22:27 |
| trmanco | ^^ | Dec 02 22:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IBM amicus brief coming back like a boomerang: http://i5.be/WH | Dec 02 22:37 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Method of managing bulk e-mail distribution (read spam) not patentable under 101: http://i5.be/WJ | Dec 02 22:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] What Microsoft can’t create, they acquire? & more MS bad news? http://tinyurl.com/y8epjts #microsoft #windows7 #windows #xp #vista #fail | Dec 02 22:40 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Google Wave’s first Microsoft faithful attack? http://tinyurl.com/ya3cnxb #microsoft #windows #vista #google #googlewave #fud #xp #fail | Dec 02 22:48 | |
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| schestowitz | OMG. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=ahD2WoDAL9h0 | Dec 02 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | Goldman Tract] | Dec 02 23:39 |
| schestowitz | http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/11/30/goldman-sachs-arms-itself/ | Dec 02 23:44 |
| schestowitz | "I don’t think Goldman Sachs employees really have much to worry about. They’re too rich and powerful, and therefor too adored by the very people they screw. As you once pointed out, “the peasant mentality lives on in America.”" | Dec 02 23:44 |
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| cubezzz | huh, someone picked up my gnu article | Dec 02 23:59 |
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