| sebsebseb | jono: shame Karmic was a let down for quite a few of us though, other computer is staying 9.04 for now, and I am running Mandriva 2010 on here, untill Lucid I guess, and i'll virtual machine Lucid starting with alpha 1 | Dec 04 00:01 |
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| jono | sebsebseb, sorry to hear that! | Dec 04 00:01 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I am so behind on Linux news I thought, I would catch up a bit | Dec 04 00:03 |
| sebsebseb | so went to the http://www.linuxtoday.com homepage again :) | Dec 04 00:05 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: microblog??? meaning? | Dec 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Identica+Twitter | Dec 04 00:10 |
| schestowitz | I actually post to Identica | Dec 04 00:10 |
| schestowitz | It sends the same to Twitter (it's an Identica option) | Dec 04 00:10 |
| cubezzz | there were big mainframeblogs, then smaller fridge sized miniblogs, but now due to miniaturization we have microblogs | Dec 04 00:10 |
| cubezzz | in the future we will have nanoblog technology | Dec 04 00:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I ended up asking else where and someone said: I suppose like Twitter and identi.ca? | Dec 04 00:11 |
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| _goblin | jono: Karmic for me was (and is) fantastic....I had a few issues involving sound but they were easily fixed...Ive found it smoother, faster.....and shut down time for 9.10 is amazing....4 seconds... | Dec 04 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: well things are rather fast for boot up, shut down, and the disk checking after 23 or so boots, if Ext4 is done in 9.04, but it's not quite stable there since the kernel and such | Dec 04 00:13 |
| sebsebseb | plus with a nice text boot :) | Dec 04 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | the Ubuntu/Kubuntu logo or whatever and the text boot :) | Dec 04 00:14 |
| _goblin | the only issue now I have to fix is to work out why my evil proprietary codecs are not being found with Mplayer but are with VLC...... | Dec 04 00:14 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva 2010's boot up is way better than Ubuntu 9.04's in my opinion :) | Dec 04 00:15 |
| sebsebseb | can have a nice graphical boot, and then press esc for the text mode | Dec 04 00:15 |
| _goblin | I had poor experience with Mandriva.... | Dec 04 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu 9.04's uhmm I meant to put 9.10's | Dec 04 00:16 |
| _goblin | desktop crashed 3 times within 15 mins, it was trying to "upgrade" me to a previous version and sound was patchy....since it claimed out of the box and I was looking at another distro at the time, I gave up on it. | Dec 04 00:16 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: there's the upgrade to previous version bug in Mandriva 2010 to, but that goes away | Dec 04 00:17 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz really likes Mandriva KDE as far as I know | Dec 04 00:18 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: I had bad experience trying to virtual machine Mandriva, but then 2010 RC worked, and the final, and I wasn't impressed with 9.10, so Mandriva One 2010 became my host on here a week or so ago | Dec 04 00:19 |
| _goblin | having said that my distro on my main rig is still Wolvix.... | Dec 04 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | I had a proper sound issue as well with 9.10, since having to do killall pulseaudio loads in Hardy | Dec 04 00:20 |
| cubezzz | Wolvix? | Dec 04 00:20 |
| _goblin | yeah...slackware.. | Dec 04 00:20 |
| sebsebseb | if I opended up and ran a virtual machine, I would lose sound on the 9.10 host | Dec 04 00:20 |
| _goblin | http://wolvix.org/ | Dec 04 00:20 |
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| cubezzz | may I ask why you like Wolvix? | Dec 04 00:21 |
| sebsebseb | of course that could probably be sorted out, but I wanted to go Mandriva anyway, after the lack of proper end user features for 9.10. ones that are actually seen and used by the user. Ubuntu One does not count, and the new icon theme for Gnome doesn't really count. Which leaves the boot up and Software Centre. | Dec 04 00:22 |
| _goblin | its fast, light..... | Dec 04 00:22 |
| _goblin | and for me it was out of the box.... | Dec 04 00:22 |
| _goblin | really great stuff.. | Dec 04 00:23 |
| trmanco | haha | Dec 04 00:23 |
| trmanco | "...for those with better things to do than wobble their windows" | Dec 04 00:23 |
| _goblin | for some reason, it reminds me of WB1.3 .....thats also an advantage. | Dec 04 00:23 |
| sebsebseb | oh and GDM 2 is to dark for my likeing in 9.10, it's fine really in Fedora 11 and 12, unless wanting to theme like the old one of course | Dec 04 00:23 |
| cubezzz | going to check out the Intel Atom laptop tonight | Dec 04 00:23 |
| _goblin | Im currently playing with Moonshell... | Dec 04 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: if I remember correctly I did vm wolvix | Dec 04 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | recently | Dec 04 00:24 |
| sebsebseb | ,but for whatever reason I didn't go for that | Dec 04 00:24 |
| cubezzz | vm's are too slow | Dec 04 00:25 |
| cubezzz | but I'm running a lot of old hardware | Dec 04 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: depends on the computer | Dec 04 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | and it can depend on the distro | Dec 04 00:25 |
| cubezzz | on quad core I'm sure it's good :) | Dec 04 00:25 |
| sebsebseb | and it can depend on the virtualization software | Dec 04 00:25 |
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| _goblin | talking about slow....im running Moonshell through a DSemu and its dire at the moment....probably because the emu was not designed for homebrew software intended for the R4. | Dec 04 00:25 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I was trying it on a Celeron, it wasn't very good, 2.6 ghz | Dec 04 00:26 |
| Ender2070_ | Plan9!!! | Dec 04 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070_: I think it was you that put last night, that you can't get hyped up over Ubuntu? | Dec 04 00:26 |
| cubezzz | I didn't like Plan9 Live CD | Dec 04 00:26 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070_: or something like that was put | Dec 04 00:26 |
| Ender2070_ | sebsebseb - i dont use ubuntu | Dec 04 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | What do you use? | Dec 04 00:27 |
| Ender2070_ | Fedora 12 | Dec 04 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | ok | Dec 04 00:27 |
| Ender2070_ | w/ KDE | Dec 04 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | meaning with? | Dec 04 00:27 |
| Ender2070_ | i disapprove of gnome | Dec 04 00:27 |
| Ender2070_ | yeah | Dec 04 00:27 |
| sebsebseb | Don't like Gnome why? | Dec 04 00:27 |
| Ender2070_ | its being noobed up | Dec 04 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | Explain what you meant by that exactly :) | Dec 04 00:28 |
| cubezzz | GNOME is fine | Dec 04 00:28 |
| cubezzz | anyway. I live at the command line :) | Dec 04 00:28 |
| _goblin | Has Gnome really changed, functionality wise anyway? | Dec 04 00:28 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome is alright, but they have removed a lot of the menu icons now hmm | Dec 04 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: Gnome 3 this September | Dec 04 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | unless delayed | Dec 04 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | well it's already been delayed as far as I know | Dec 04 00:29 |
| sebsebseb | not been following it | Dec 04 00:29 |
| cubezzz | That's why Linux/GNU/X is so great :) | Dec 04 00:29 |
| _goblin | not destined for the LTS though..... | Dec 04 00:29 |
| cubezzz | so many choices | Dec 04 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | indeed | Dec 04 00:30 |
| _goblin | which will stay on my system for a while.... | Dec 04 00:30 |
| _goblin | 8.04 saw good service. | Dec 04 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | I guess it will be an option in the repo for 10.10 | Dec 04 00:30 |
| _goblin | and on my secondary rig 9.10 is filling the gap until 10.04... | Dec 04 00:30 |
| Ender2070_ | sebsebseb - they remove options instead of finding ways to fix stuff | Dec 04 00:30 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070_: http://www.osnews.com/story/21935/GNOME_To_Drop_Icons_in_Buttons_Menus | Dec 04 00:32 |
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| Ender2070_ | yes | Dec 04 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | so nothing in system menu | Dec 04 00:32 |
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| sebsebseb | if I reemmber correctly from 9.10 and Fedora 12 Gnome | Dec 04 00:32 |
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| Ender2070_ | linus also had a patch to enable configuring his mouse buttons and they denied it | Dec 04 00:32 |
| sebsebseb | some stuff missing from the bottom of places menu as well | Dec 04 00:33 |
| Ender2070_ | configuring mouse buttons was deemed "too hard" and removed | Dec 04 00:33 |
| sebsebseb | and themeing was considered not important or whatever, so GDM 2 can't be themed like the old one at the moment | Dec 04 00:33 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux #Server for Small Business Now in Review http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/87803/a-linux-answer-windows-sbs-clearos | Dec 04 00:33 | |
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| sebsebseb | and Grub is also GNU, well I am not sure if can get some colours on it and even theme like the old one | Dec 04 00:34 |
| cubezzz | Amiga were running at 7.16 MHz, now we have Ghz machines, but it sure doesn't feel 100x faster | Dec 04 00:34 |
| sebsebseb | I haven't read up about Grub 2 yet, but with the old one uncomment prettycolours in menu.lst for example | Dec 04 00:34 |
| Ender2070_ | gecko is too hard, so epiphany uses webkit now | Dec 04 00:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #New #Linux is Released (2.6.32), Overview of Features http://ur1.ca/h2bx http://ur1.ca/h3gx | Dec 04 00:34 | |
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| sebsebseb | Gecko is too hard???? I read before something about it being a complex project to program for | Dec 04 00:34 |
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| Ender2070_ | people were telling me in that if you manage to compile firefox yourself you can be a packager | Dec 04 00:35 |
| Ender2070_ | i didnt find it complex at all | Dec 04 00:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #XServer 1.7.3 is Released http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc2Ng | Dec 04 00:35 | |
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| sebsebseb | Ender2070_: you mean to compile Firefox? | Dec 04 00:35 |
| Ender2070_ | yes | Dec 04 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | anyway all the icons still there in Mandriva 2010 One Gnome | Dec 04 00:36 |
| Ender2070_ | yeah but theres another problem | Dec 04 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | which was another reason I went to it, plus much nicer default theme than Karmic and so on. | Dec 04 00:36 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I been using KDE 4 in Mandriva for a few days or so now | Dec 04 00:37 |
| Ender2070_ | gnomes apps keep getting replaced with mono ones | Dec 04 00:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #KDE for #Kubuntu and for Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/h3h3 http://ur1.ca/h3h4 | Dec 04 00:37 | |
| Ender2070_ | eventually it will get down to the point where running "sudo apt-get remove lib-mono0 mono-common" will remove everything in ubuntu | Dec 04 00:37 |
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| sebsebseb | Ender2070_: well 10.04 will have F-Spot instead of Gimp, not as well as, in the default install | Dec 04 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | I know there's a replacement for tomboy by the way | Dec 04 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070_: Microsoft have a patent or whatever for sudo | Dec 04 00:38 |
| Ender2070_ | meh sudo is dumb anyways | Dec 04 00:38 |
| sebsebseb | well it's instead of using a root account | Dec 04 00:39 |
| Ender2070_ | exactly | Dec 04 00:39 |
| sebsebseb | and a lot of people that don't know Desktop Linux that well run Ubuntu, and something bad could happen if they were to be running the root account all the time, like how they would with Windows and the admin account | Dec 04 00:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE on #Television : Long History http://linuxologist.com/general/7-instances-of-kde-appearances-on-the-silver-screen/ | Dec 04 00:40 | |
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| Ender2070_ | i dont see how it would be any different | Dec 04 00:40 |
| Ender2070_ | nobody runs desktop apps as root | Dec 04 00:41 |
| Ender2070_ | instead of sudo, you use su | Dec 04 00:41 |
| Ender2070_ | its protected by a root password, instead of a user password | Dec 04 00:41 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Deepin 9.12 ( #GNU #Linux ) http://www.my-seo-company.com/index.php?linux&release=Deepin%209.12%20Beta%201 | Dec 04 00:42 | |
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| Ender2070_ | Haiku OS seems cool too (BeOS remake) | Dec 04 00:47 |
| Ender2070_ | someone needs to remake os/2 without it being proprietary | Dec 04 00:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu 9.10 Beats #Vista7 in Comparison http://ur1.ca/h3hx http://ur1.ca/h3hy | Dec 04 00:49 | |
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| cubezzz | choice is good | Dec 04 00:50 |
| cubezzz | just say so to monoculture :) | Dec 04 00:50 |
| cubezzz | er, no | Dec 04 00:50 |
| cubezzz | just say no :) | Dec 04 00:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #IDE #Debugger Targets #Linux #Android http://ur1.ca/h3hz | Dec 04 00:51 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of Web Design Applications for #GNU #Linux ( #Ubuntu ) http://ur1.ca/h3i4 | Dec 04 00:52 | |
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| Ender2070_ | im gonna throw plan9 onto my p2 notebook | Dec 04 00:53 |
| Ender2070_ | low requirements | Dec 04 00:53 |
| Ender2070_ | oh its p3 actually | Dec 04 00:53 |
| Ender2070_ | 500mhz | Dec 04 00:53 |
| Ender2070_ | 256mb ram | Dec 04 00:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Video Recorder #VIDEOR Runs #Linux http://www.sourcesecurity.com/news/articles/co-3811-ga-co-1768-ga.4158.html | Dec 04 00:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CompuLab Unit Comes with #GNU #Linux at 2/3 of the Price as with #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/h3i7 | Dec 04 00:54 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM Uses #GNU #Linux to Make Sub-$200 #Subnotebooks http://www.slashgear.com/wistron-n900z-smartbook-sub-200-arm-netbook-0345776/ | Dec 04 00:59 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CharityKiller (Intel) Prioritises #GNU #Linux on Sub-notebooks (Fear of #ARM ) http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10407840-92.html | Dec 04 01:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia to Release Another #Linux #Phone with Maemo 6 http://ur1.ca/h3ib http://ur1.ca/h3ie | Dec 04 01:01 | |
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| cubezzz | my kingdom for an ARM netbook :) | Dec 04 01:03 |
| cubezzz | like where the heck do I actually buy one for under $200 I wonder | Dec 04 01:03 |
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| cubezzz | sure, I can get the Netwalker with the BIG 5" screen :) | Dec 04 01:04 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartbook | Dec 04 01:06 |
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| cubezzz | actually I'm starting to like the Netwalker more | Dec 04 01:07 |
| ender2070 | the winstron says 10hr battery life | Dec 04 01:08 |
| ender2070 | nice | Dec 04 01:08 |
| ender2070 | probably more without ubuntu | Dec 04 01:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] With #Sun Inside #Oracle , Ellison Could Become Biggest #FreeSoftware Vendor http://ur1.ca/h3iq | Dec 04 01:11 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 3 New Audio Shows About GNU, Linux, and Free Software http://twit.tv/floss97 http://ur1.ca/h3is http://ur1.ca/h0u6 | Dec 04 01:13 | |
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| bethlynn | hi folks | Dec 04 01:23 |
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| bethlynn | I met a sysadmin who works for the whitehouse | Dec 04 01:25 |
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| bethlynn | while FOSS is winning on the servers, not so much on the desktop | Dec 04 01:25 |
| bethlynn | any finace geeks in the house? | Dec 04 01:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many #FreeSoftware Releases Include #KnowledgeTree , #GCC http://ur1.ca/h3jk http://ur1.ca/h3jl | Dec 04 01:27 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Sued for Patent Infringement http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1564691/apple-sued-lack-originality | Dec 04 01:48 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bully Software Alliance Promotes #FreeSoftware , by Accident http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/01/business-software-al-2.html #bsa #thug | Dec 04 01:51 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Murdoch|Ballmer Circus Leaves Competition Alone http://ur1.ca/h3l1 http://ur1.ca/h3l2 | Dec 04 01:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Throws Out Many More Employees with Selloff http://ur1.ca/h3l5 | Dec 04 01:54 | |
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| schestowitz | novl results in... | Dec 04 02:01 |
| schestowitz | Wow | Dec 04 02:02 |
| schestowitz | They messed up | Dec 04 02:02 |
| schestowitz | linuxtoday FP: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-12-03-032-35-OP-MS-LL | Dec 04 02:04 |
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| schestowitz | It's not about Linux... | Dec 04 02:04 |
| schestowitz | Interesting that they chose to put it there | Dec 04 02:04 |
| schestowitz | At least something for the uninitiated to be aware of | Dec 04 02:05 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] 20 essential tips every !ubuntu user should know !linux http://tinyurl.com/ylscgty | Dec 04 02:11 | |
| shreddar | I've able to figure out how PS3 has a Neflix disk but regular desktop Linux still doesn't have it. | Dec 04 02:13 |
| shreddar | As far as I know PS3 doesn't have NXP and I don't believe Netflix ported Silverlight over. | Dec 04 02:13 |
| shreddar | How'd they do it? | Dec 04 02:14 |
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| shreddar | I've been trying to search for what on the disk. Because whatever it is it seems to be part of it. | Dec 04 02:18 |
| shreddar | Never mind I found it. | Dec 04 02:20 |
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| shreddar | Apparently they somehow got arround it with BD live. | Dec 04 02:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell ’s Losses Grow, Despite Layoffs http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/03/novell-losses-grow-09-end/ | Dec 04 02:22 | |
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| shreddar | I still need to find out how they used BD-live to get around the MS DRM issue. | Dec 04 02:23 |
| schestowitz | MS? | Dec 04 02:24 |
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| shreddar | Yeah Netflix uses MS's DRM which is why you could only access it with IE, Silverlight or a NXP device (Roku). | Dec 04 02:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.the-source.com/2009/12/where-do-you-get-your-corn-pone/ | Dec 04 02:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/03/youtube-gets-faster-with-feather-beta | Dec 04 02:28 |
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| cubezzz | heh, DRM | Dec 04 02:35 |
| shreddar | I also want to know how they will make a streaming disk for the Wii since it doesn't have BD-live (or IE, Silverlight, NXP) | Dec 04 02:35 |
| shreddar | Probably why they aren't talking about it yet. | Dec 04 02:35 |
| shreddar | http://www.defectivebydesign.org/blog/1093 | Dec 04 02:40 |
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| cubezzz | got cspan figured out | Dec 04 02:50 |
| cubezzz | cspan 3 and cspan radio anyway | Dec 04 02:54 |
| cubezzz | kind of boring though :) | Dec 04 02:59 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft About Anti- #Google “Bribes”: Let’s Call the Whole Thing Off http://ur1.ca/h3ns | Dec 04 03:05 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: DRM is dying in some areas | Dec 04 03:06 |
| schestowitz | But not in most of hem | Dec 04 03:06 |
| schestowitz | *them | Dec 04 03:06 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, I've been dealing more with obfuscation rather than DRM | Dec 04 03:12 |
| cubezzz | what is the real URL for example | Dec 04 03:14 |
| cubezzz | bah, I guess I have to compile for fc1 again | Dec 04 03:18 |
| cubezzz | basically it seems that flash often nothing more than a opaque shield to hide the real URL | Dec 04 03:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] My take on: #Microsoft Gets Rid of Many More Employees http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/03/selling-parts-of-msft-fast/ | Dec 04 03:24 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you're quoted ^^ | Dec 04 03:25 |
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| cubezzz | "MPlayer now supports most of the Bluray and HD-DVD codecs" | Dec 04 03:46 |
| schestowitz | Xine | Dec 04 03:46 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it was in the new | Dec 04 03:46 |
| schestowitz | *news | Dec 04 03:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Contradicts the #BSA While the BSA Attacks Users of Proprietary Software http://ur1.ca/h3px | Dec 04 03:46 | |
| cubezzz | is Windows 7 actually hard to pirate? | Dec 04 03:50 |
| cubezzz | just wondering, not that I would ever touch it in any case | Dec 04 03:51 |
| cubezzz | Gates seems to be suggesting that "piracy is not a problem" but does that mean he wants piracy, or at least tolerates it? | Dec 04 03:54 |
| cubezzz | he can't be suggesting it is difficult to pirate windows | Dec 04 03:54 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: well UK for example is going to really start cutting down on piracy | Dec 04 03:55 |
| sebsebseb | Internet piracy | Dec 04 03:55 |
| cubezzz | at the ISPs I assume | Dec 04 03:56 |
| sebsebseb | also if people pirate propritary software, and end up using it quite a lot, and end up relying on it, well they get locked in | Dec 04 03:56 |
| sebsebseb | even though they didn't pay for it | Dec 04 03:56 |
| sebsebseb | yep at the ISP's and warning letters and that, and then people getting cut off as well | Dec 04 03:56 |
| sebsebseb | someone told me before that Bill Gates said something like this in 1998 "If China are going to pirate software, I hope it will be ours" | Dec 04 03:57 |
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| cubezzz | yes | Dec 04 03:58 |
| cubezzz | I'd like to see non Windows computers in the stores, side by side with windows boxes | Dec 04 03:59 |
| Ender2070 | steve balmer said vista's biggest competition was pirated xp, and he said it would be tough because his competitor had a solid product at an amazing price | Dec 04 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | same here, but now also a choice of distro on those computers | Dec 04 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | not just Ubuntu for example | Dec 04 03:59 |
| cubezzz | I think what ISPs do now is cut you off (sometimes) if you make a ton of connections | Dec 04 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: I have some links | Dec 04 03:59 |
| sebsebseb | that schestowitz gave here the other night | Dec 04 03:59 |
| cubezzz | Bell isn't cutting us off btw | Dec 04 04:00 |
| sebsebseb | well he gave with his short urls, I would give with the actsual urls | Dec 04 04:00 |
| cubezzz | probably American ISPs are more Draconian | Dec 04 04:00 |
| Ender2070 | im gonna be forced to switch to wimax soon | Dec 04 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | Ender2070: another ISP I assume? | Dec 04 04:01 |
| sebsebseb | why? | Dec 04 04:01 |
| Ender2070 | im moving | Dec 04 04:02 |
| Ender2070 | i wont be able to get cable or dsl internet | Dec 04 04:02 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Dec 04 04:02 |
| cubezzz | uh, anyone with a Bell phone in Ontario or Quebec can get DSL | Dec 04 04:02 |
| cubezzz | that's what I was told anyway :) | Dec 04 04:03 |
| Ender2070 | i cant get a seperate line put in at the condo | Dec 04 04:03 |
| cubezzz | dry loop? | Dec 04 04:03 |
| cubezzz | hrmm | Dec 04 04:04 |
| Ender2070 | at the same time | Dec 04 04:04 |
| Ender2070 | its not that bad | Dec 04 04:04 |
| Ender2070 | i wont be home a lot anyways | Dec 04 04:04 |
| Ender2070 | wimax will give me a 3mbps connection anywhere in the gta | Dec 04 04:05 |
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| sebsebseb | well the ISP's in UK basically kept on saying that they weren't responsible for what went through their network, but the goverment wants to do the anti piracy stuff now | Dec 04 04:07 |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, how will they do that? | Dec 04 04:08 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: Ender2070 http://techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0616407124.shtml http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/11/using-faulty-data-to-demand-settlements-from-innocent-surfers.ars http://techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0316037113.shtml | Dec 04 04:09 |
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| sebsebseb | cubezzz: Ender2070 hi? | Dec 04 04:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Martin Goetz Ridiculed for Starting and Harbouring Software Patents #swpat http://bit.ly/6eKP0P | Dec 04 04:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | Operation Repo B-) | Dec 04 04:18 |
| schestowitz | gn | Dec 04 04:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft : Serenity Now, Security Later http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/03/serenity-now-security-later/ | Dec 04 04:30 | |
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| Ender2070 | hi | Dec 04 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 7 hasn't had any patches in two months now | Dec 04 04:34 |
| Ender2070 | win7 is gay | Dec 04 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: That's pretty ignorant | Dec 04 04:37 |
| Ender2070 | the kettle calls the pot black | Dec 04 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | makes you sound like an acne-ridden 15 year old | Dec 04 04:37 |
| Ender2070 | nah thats its target demographic | Dec 04 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why noboy says "That's so nigger" | Dec 04 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | Why don't you start saying that and see what happens? | Dec 04 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | *nobody | Dec 04 04:38 |
| Ender2070 | because | Dec 04 04:39 |
| Ender2070 | gay doesnt only mean one thing | Dec 04 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | you'd get fired, or have your ass kicked | Dec 04 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | most likely | Dec 04 04:39 |
| Ender2070 | its slang for something that sucks | Dec 04 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | people wuss out when they're going to have consequences for being a bigoted pile of shit | Dec 04 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | that's what it is | Dec 04 04:39 |
| Ender2070 | well microsoft doesnt deserve any better | Dec 04 04:40 |
| Ender2070 | besides | Dec 04 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | has win7 gone on the record saying it isnt gay? or that it likes women? | Dec 04 04:41 |
| Ender2070 | no | Dec 04 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like women | Dec 04 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm also not making child support payments and living on workers comp like all the rednecks around here | Dec 04 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | *shrugs* | Dec 04 04:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Ender2070: If I had a dime for every time I've seen soe straight guy get sacked with child support payments, I'd buy a small island somewhere | Dec 04 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | so what's so bad about me? | Dec 04 04:44 |
| Ender2070 | lets not start a flame war | Dec 04 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | uh huh, so then they drop off the radar and start selling drugs | Dec 04 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | finally when they're 6 months behind, they get busted for both | Dec 04 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | so what's intelligent about letting your life go off in that direction? | Dec 04 04:45 |
| Ender2070 | ? | Dec 04 04:46 |
| Ender2070 | not every guy gets sacked with child support payments, some actually stay with the girl | Dec 04 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: Not very many | Dec 04 04:48 |
| Ender2070 | if they arent, they deserve it | Dec 04 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | A relationship of any kind is always about trying to dominate or own another person | Dec 04 04:49 |
| Ender2070 | says a psychopath | Dec 04 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | that's why so many of them fail, in my opinion | Dec 04 04:49 |
| Ender2070 | not everyone is crazy like you | Dec 04 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | look at game theory and apply it to a relationship | Dec 04 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's not on a conscious level entirely | Dec 04 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: The numbers are on my side here | Dec 04 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopath | Dec 04 04:50 |
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| DaemonFC | most marriages don't make it past 3 years | Dec 04 04:50 |
| Ender2070 | what numbers | Dec 04 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | half of marriages end in divorce in three years | Dec 04 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | 70% by 10 years | Dec 04 04:51 |
| Ender2070 | where does that data even come from | Dec 04 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | well, here's one from the National Center for Health Statistics | Dec 04 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Percentage_of_marriages_that_end_in_divorce | Dec 04 04:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: WikiAnswers - Percentage of marriages that end in divorce .::. Size~: 51.16 KB | Dec 04 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | they say 43% in total end in divorce | Dec 04 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | which is lower than what I've heard elsewhere | Dec 04 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | still a lot though | Dec 04 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | Forty-three percent of first marriages end in divorce, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. | Dec 04 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | in America | Dec 04 04:53 |
| Ender2070 | land of the corrupt | Dec 04 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | no more corrupt than anywhere else | Dec 04 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | of course national propaganda is everywhere | Dec 04 04:54 |
| Ender2070 | America is pretty much on the road to tyrany | Dec 04 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's not an American exclusive | Dec 04 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | every government will tell you that the country you're in is the best | Dec 04 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | even the ones that don't even pretend to give you the right to a trial and just shoot you in the head | Dec 04 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | people tend to make their own problems, then try to blame it on the government, the weather, anything | Dec 04 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | just to try to deflect their own shortcomings | Dec 04 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | "It wasn't my fault for selling drugs, it was the government for arresting me" | Dec 04 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | "It's not my fault I'm not paying child support, that bitch told me she was on the pill" | Dec 04 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | "It's not my fault I was fired, that supervisor had it in for me" | Dec 04 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | i dont understand where you are going with this | Dec 04 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | I see people fucking things up all the time and then blaming everyone but themselves | Dec 04 04:58 |
| Ender2070 | what does that have to do with anything at all | Dec 04 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to get on board with the "queers are ruining this place" group, it just shows what an ignorant fucktard you are | Dec 04 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | blame your own problems on you | Dec 04 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of times, there are even big red flags that people willfully ignore because they want to wish that something was so | Dec 04 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | Times change, so do scapegoats, but there always is one | Dec 04 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | right now I get to enjoy being the scapegoat for all of societies ills | Dec 04 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | go call the human rights commission | Dec 04 05:02 |
| Ender2070 | because i used a word that has 3 different meanings and you have sand in your vagina | Dec 04 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | it reflects more on your mental development than me anyway | Dec 04 05:03 |
| Ender2070 | hardly | Dec 04 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | when someone chooses to sound like an ignorant teenager | Dec 04 05:04 |
| Ender2070 | its use wasn't intented to attack homosexuals, saying something "is gay" doesnt mean you're saying something is homosexual | Dec 04 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | it's a homophobic slur | Dec 04 05:05 |
| Ender2070 | the word itself existed before anyone used it as a slur | Dec 04 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | go say "That's so nigger" around a group of black men and see what happens | Dec 04 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | maybe you can tell them you didn't mean it that way | Dec 04 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | you're retarded | Dec 04 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | there's only one thing it can mean | Dec 04 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's an insult, that's the intent | Dec 04 05:06 |
| Ender2070 | the n word only has one meaning | Dec 04 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | The term gay was originally used, until well into the mid-20th century, primarily to refer to feelings of being "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy"' | Dec 04 05:07 |
| Ender2070 | in fact why dont you attack the creators of the flintstones | Dec 04 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | so are you saying something is "happy" or "worthless" | Dec 04 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's meant as an attack | Dec 04 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | you're not saying Windows 7 is happy | Dec 04 05:08 |
| Ender2070 | i could be saying its bright and showy | Dec 04 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | you're saying it's base or worthless | Dec 04 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | like homosexuals (in your opinion) | Dec 04 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | the meaning and the correlation are clear | Dec 04 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | you're saying that that thing is "worthless" just like gay people | Dec 04 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | i dunno why i keep feeding you troll, you're just a psychopath | Dec 04 05:09 |
| Ender2070 | i don't care that you're gay, i actually prefer that | Dec 04 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's a term that was invented by a bunch of chickens that still want to sound badass | Dec 04 05:10 |
| Ender2070 | it means you won't reproduce | Dec 04 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why anyone would | Dec 04 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | everyone loses | Dec 04 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | there's a very tiny (1%) chance that your child could be an amazing success in life | Dec 04 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | and a bigger chance they'll just be more meat for the grinder | Dec 04 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | that applies to you | Dec 04 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | another wage slave | Dec 04 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | im actually going to take care of mine | Dec 04 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | I have no motivation to ever want to have any children | Dec 04 05:12 |
| Ender2070 | positive re-enforcement leads to high iq | Dec 04 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's a drain on me with no return | Dec 04 05:13 |
| Ender2070 | i've already diagnosed you | Dec 04 05:13 |
| cubezzz | it's perfectly fine to have some children | Dec 04 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | positive reinforcement is just feel good crap | Dec 04 05:13 |
| cubezzz | ... | Dec 04 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | brought about by self help tapes | Dec 04 05:13 |
| Ender2070 | self help tapes are dumb | Dec 04 05:13 |
| Ender2070 | and its obvious you didnt have good parents or you might be carrying on an intelligent coversation right now | Dec 04 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | instead of being a candidate for the douche awards | Dec 04 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | My argument is sound | Dec 04 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | Why take on more liabilities? | Dec 04 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | your arguement proves my diagnosis of you | Dec 04 05:14 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopath | Dec 04 05:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Psychopathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 152.17 KB | Dec 04 05:15 |
| cubezzz | the death rate, have enough births to equal the death rate | Dec 04 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | "The prototypical psychopath has deficits or deviances in several areas: interpersonal relationships, emotion, and self-control." | Dec 04 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | you've displayed all of these | Dec 04 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | fact: people are self-serving | Dec 04 05:15 |
| Ender2070 | as you talked i've been checking off items from the DSM-IV | Dec 04 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | fact: having kids is usually an accident | Dec 04 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | fact: people won't admit this | Dec 04 05:16 |
| cubezzz | Psychopath is rather extreme | Dec 04 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | fact: when you pay taxes, a lot of that is to raise kids of women that apply for welfare | Dec 04 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | "Pathological lying" | Dec 04 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | "Lack of remorse or guilt" | Dec 04 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | "Poor behavioral control" | Dec 04 05:17 |
| Ender2070 | "Lack of realistic, long-term goals" | Dec 04 05:17 |
| cubezzz | Ender2070, I see that on IRC a lot | Dec 04 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | "Impulsivenes" | Dec 04 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'm convinced that women have an extra capacity to be cruel, manipulative, and good liars | Dec 04 05:18 |
| cubezzz | people just aren't their normal self on IRC | Dec 04 05:18 |
| Ender2070 | at the same time, hes admitted to having been committed to a psycho hospital | Dec 04 05:18 |
| cubezzz | ah | Dec 04 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | I checked myself in due to a depressive episode after a really nasty breakup | Dec 04 05:19 |
| Ender2070 | oh paranoia | Dec 04 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | hence my belief that intimate relationships are doomed and only held together (maybe) by external events | Dec 04 05:19 |
| Ender2070 | might be schitzophrenia | Dec 04 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | or antisocial disorder | Dec 04 05:20 |
| DaemonFC | psychiatrists aren't worried about diagnosing and treating you | Dec 04 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder | Dec 04 05:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Antisocial personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 83.01 KB | Dec 04 05:20 |
| Ender2070 | this one fits you better | Dec 04 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | at least no further than milking your health insurance goes | Dec 04 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | "Substance abuse" | Dec 04 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: You're "better" when your insurance won't pay any more to them | Dec 04 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | "Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights" | Dec 04 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | "Inability to tolerate boredom" | Dec 04 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | You have a "realapse" when the insurance changes its mind and pays them more" | Dec 04 05:21 |
| Ender2070 | "Persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social rules, obligations, and norms" | Dec 04 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | *relapse | Dec 04 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | part of that is true | Dec 04 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | "Persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social rules, obligations, and norms" | Dec 04 05:22 |
| Ender2070 | "irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;" | Dec 04 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | I'm responsible to the point that my bills are paid | Dec 04 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care about what anyone expects out of me (Why should I?) | Dec 04 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | unless you're paying me to do a job or something | Dec 04 05:23 |
| Ender2070 | "Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior bringing the subject into conflict." | Dec 04 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | when did I do that? | Dec 04 05:23 |
| cubezzz | do an analysis on Stallman :) | Dec 04 05:23 |
| Ender2070 | Stallman is sane | Dec 04 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: You're not using that word correctly | Dec 04 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | sane/insane are legal terms | Dec 04 05:24 |
| Ender2070 | Stallman has no personality disorders that I am aware of. | Dec 04 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | they just mean "Did you know right from wrong when you committed the crime?" | Dec 04 05:25 |
| Ender2070 | His critics quite often have some of their own. | Dec 04 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | his extreme obesity and sense of self-superiority aren't character flaws? | Dec 04 05:25 |
| cubezzz | I'd say Stallman is high-functioning | Dec 04 05:26 |
| Ender2070 | this channel suffers from Folie à deux sometimes | Dec 04 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | people tend to be morbidly obese for a reason | Dec 04 05:26 |
| cubezzz | yeah he guzzles Pepsi :) | Dec 04 05:26 |
| Ender2070 | He might have a love for bacon? | Dec 04 05:26 |
| cubezzz | that would do it | Dec 04 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | Stallman is an egomaniac | Dec 04 05:27 |
| Ender2070 | not at all | Dec 04 05:27 |
| cubezzz | Ender2070, how about Cognitive Distortion? | Dec 04 05:27 |
| Ender2070 | thats what his psychotic critics say | Dec 04 05:27 |
| cubezzz | a lot of people engage in that | Dec 04 05:27 |
| cubezzz | Stallman is eccentric though | Dec 04 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | he incessantly preaches to other people who use proprietary software, even when they don't care | Dec 04 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | and wages smear campaigns if they don't listen to him | Dec 04 05:28 |
| Ender2070 | ummmm | Dec 04 05:28 |
| Ender2070 | what else should the "free software foundation" preach? | Dec 04 05:28 |
| Ender2070 | rent a cars? | Dec 04 05:28 |
| cubezzz | "Things are worse than they really are" type of attitude | Dec 04 05:29 |
| Ender2070 | beach balls? | Dec 04 05:29 |
| Ender2070 | on the other end of the spectrum we have Miguel who preaches about proprietary software being great | Dec 04 05:30 |
| Ender2070 | cubezzz - Cognitive Distortion +1 | Dec 04 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | my problem is people that preach it even when it won't work | Dec 04 05:31 |
| Ender2070 | DaemonFC - free software works fine | Dec 04 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | use our square peg for your round hole | Dec 04 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: It may work fine if all your needs are "square hole" needs" | Dec 04 05:32 |
| Ender2070 | no its more like, we got our square peg to fit your round hole and now you changed its shape again microsoft! | Dec 04 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | but it isn't as well rounded as I would prefer in a lot of ways | Dec 04 05:32 |
| cubezzz | it's the old philosophical debate, you'll never resolve it | Dec 04 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | proprietary software shouldnt exist | Dec 04 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | I do believe I had the black screen of death earlier though | Dec 04 05:33 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Dec 04 05:35 |
| Ender2070 | it turned out to be malware related noob | Dec 04 05:35 |
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| DaemonFC | had something to do with a bug didn't it? | Dec 04 05:50 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Intel advertising stunt: releasing Core i9 on #eBay in attempt to take wind out of #AMD's sails http://ur1.ca/h3wk | Dec 04 06:11 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] We have orbiting solar panels now... where is our space elevator? http://ur1.ca/h3wn #science | Dec 04 06:16 | |
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| larkguit | Some former Microsoft OS development managers are developing their own version of Linux! They're gonna call it Sphincter Hat. | Dec 04 06:34 |
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| ender2070 | so an arm based cpu might be the best for a netbook? | Dec 04 06:57 |
| cubezzz | I think so | Dec 04 06:57 |
| ender2070 | what would you get | Dec 04 06:57 |
| cubezzz | that's hard to answer | Dec 04 06:59 |
| cubezzz | There's a lot of stuff but I don't see anything available to buy | Dec 04 06:59 |
| cubezzz | there's Netwalker | Dec 04 07:00 |
| cubezzz | There's Menq Easypc E790 | Dec 04 07:00 |
| cubezzz | There's Zaurus C3000 series | Dec 04 07:00 |
| cubezzz | which is kind of old but you can get them used | Dec 04 07:00 |
| cubezzz | there's ink-media but I don't see it shipping yet | Dec 04 07:01 |
| cubezzz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10162275-64.html | Dec 04 07:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dell's hybrid laptops: Intel + ARM, Windows + Linux | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 93.07 KB | Dec 04 07:14 |
| MinceR | any 10" ARM netbooks? | Dec 04 07:24 |
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| cubezzz | Menq is 7", Netwalker is 5" | Dec 04 07:56 |
| cubezzz | I don't know of any 10" arm netbook | Dec 04 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | I got a letter from Comcast advertising their home phone service | Dec 04 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | it's actually more expensive than my cell phone bill once their promo wears off | Dec 04 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | 400 minutes, free incoming, free nights (5p-7a), free weekends = $40 | Dec 04 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast landline = $50 a month | Dec 04 08:04 |
| DaemonFC | who still has a home phone? | Dec 04 08:04 |
| cubezzz | me | Dec 04 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | obsolete | Dec 04 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | why should I pay more to get something I can't even take with me? | Dec 04 08:08 |
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| cubezzz | ok, this is a good argument for using old software | Dec 04 08:13 |
| cubezzz | libraries change, sound systems change | Dec 04 08:13 |
| cubezzz | can't get qsopcast working on f11 | Dec 04 08:14 |
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| cubezzz | DaemonFC was extra annoying tonight :-/ | Dec 04 08:17 |
| cubezzz | well I guess I'll put Linux on the new laptop tomorrow | Dec 04 08:17 |
| cubezzz | just ran out of time | Dec 04 08:18 |
| cubezzz | qsopcast works great on FC1 though | Dec 04 08:19 |
| cubezzz | doesn't work at all on F11 | Dec 04 08:19 |
| ender2070 | kvm | Dec 04 08:21 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Translated from German to English: Firefox the most used browser Germany. http://bit.ly/4zLOEa >> This won't please Bally Balmer though. | Dec 04 08:50 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Translated from German to English: Firefox the most used browser Germany. http://bit.ly/4zLOEa >> This won't please Bally Ballmer though. | Dec 04 08:54 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] A #Reagan #iPhone app... I thought racism wasn't allowed on the iPhone? http://ur1.ca/h44h #apple #politics | Dec 04 09:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Bing search site suffers outage - That's why nobody hosts anything serious on Windows servers http://tinyurl.com/ylownfe | Dec 04 10:17 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC News - Bing search site suffers outage .::. Size~: 49.73 KB | Dec 04 10:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Software Patents and a central EU patent court to be voted today in the Council of Ministers without any debate. | Dec 04 10:22 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Dec 04 10:35 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked zahzam from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Dec 04 10:35 | |
| schestowitz | That was Mutex the offender | Dec 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | He is determined not to quit schestowitz | Dec 04 10:45 |
| Omar87_ | http://bit.ly/564MAl >> (NOTE: "Without Russia" == "Belarus" -a mistranslation error-) | Dec 04 10:45 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Translate .::. Size~: 0.9 KB | Dec 04 10:45 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: seams like MS is trying to make there next lock in point sharepoint. | Dec 04 10:50 |
| cubezzz | all the ARM based netbooks seem to have 7" display or smaller | Dec 04 10:53 |
| cubezzz | still looking | Dec 04 10:54 |
| cubezzz | http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/253967376/7_inch_mini_netbook.html | Dec 04 10:55 |
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| cubezzz | hmmm, found the mother lode I think :) | Dec 04 10:57 |
| cubezzz | some of these guys want 50 piece order minimum | Dec 04 10:58 |
| Omar87_ | alibaba?!?! 0_o | Dec 04 10:59 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Dec 04 10:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ballmer blames? – Vista Beta Tester speaks out? http://tinyurl.com/yaqcdfl #microsoft #vista #win7 #7 #xp #fail #ballmer #linux #foss | Dec 04 11:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ballmer blames? Vista Beta Tester speaks out? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 34.41 KB | Dec 04 11:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxscrew.com/2009/12/03/13-linux-lethal-commands/ | Dec 04 11:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 13 Linux lethal commands - Linux * Screw .::. Size~: 44.74 KB | Dec 04 11:01 |
| cubezzz | I found one, finally | Dec 04 11:01 |
| schestowitz | Omar87_: Yes, it's Chinese though | Dec 04 11:01 |
| cubezzz | ah, no, pffft | Dec 04 11:02 |
| Omar87_ | schestowitz: wow. That's weird, 'coz "Ali Baba" is an antient Arabian lagendary character. | Dec 04 11:02 |
| cubezzz | intel atom.... | Dec 04 11:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ddj.com/linux-open-source/222000460?cid=RSSfeed_DDJ_OpenSource | Dec 04 11:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dr. Dobb's | AMD, SiSoftware Team Up on OpenCL Benchmarks | December 3, 2009 .::. Size~: 76.64 KB | Dec 04 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Omar87_: yes, I always though the same when I came across the site | Dec 04 11:05 |
| schestowitz | *thought | Dec 04 11:05 |
| cubezzz | I guess the Wistron fits the bill | Dec 04 11:06 |
| cubezzz | Wistron N900z, 800 Mhz Freescale, 10 hour battery life | Dec 04 11:06 |
| schestowitz | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Dec-03-1.html | Dec 04 11:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mexico 2009 - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 13.2 KB | Dec 04 11:07 |
| schestowitz | http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/11/18/interview-with-greg-kroah-hartman-linux-kernel-devmaintainer/ | Dec 04 11:09 |
| schestowitz | If only Red Hat could hire him... Novell would have so much less impact | Dec 04 11:09 |
| schestowitz | “Gates has created a huge blood-buying operation that only cares about money, not about people,” said Ma Tiecheng, who runs a seven-year-old AIDS organization in the northwest city of Shenyang. “I’ve seen people getting four H.I.V. tests a day.” http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/health/policy/03china.html?_r=2 | Dec 04 11:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.69 KB | Dec 04 11:13 |
| schestowitz | Can anyone google to find similar claims? | Dec 04 11:18 |
| schestowitz | This NYT quote confirms what needs to be highlighted more. That Melinda and Bill do the whole kid-hugging routine is obviously a thing for the cameras. | Dec 04 11:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nuxified.org/blog/again-linux-not-os | Dec 04 11:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Again, Linux is not an OS | Nuxified.org .::. Size~: 73.35 KB | Dec 04 11:20 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to fewa | Dec 04 11:20 | |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Dec 04 11:20 | |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091130/0854257133.shtml | Dec 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz | "This happens all too frequently. I recently wrote a short post about something that was apparently happening with YouTube and soon after received an angry email from a PR person at the company first scolding me for not contacting Google PR first and then demanding that I insert some PR babble paragraph that said nothing that addressed the key questions raised in the post in "response."" | Dec 04 11:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yes, We Can Write Our Opinions Without Contacting The Company We're Writing About First | Techdirt .::. Size~: 63.93 KB | Dec 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Bingoi | Dec 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz | I get the same | Dec 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz | They try to police what people say about them. Google tool. | Dec 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz | s/tool/too/ | Dec 04 11:22 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2009/12/at_the_dallas_news_the_latest.php | Dec 04 11:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: At The Dallas News, a New "Bold Strategy": Section Editors Reporting to Sales Managers - Dallas News - Unfair Park .::. Size~: 97.47 KB | Dec 04 11:25 |
| schestowitz | http://openstack.blogspot.com/2009/12/openweb-12032009-am.html | Dec 04 11:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Open Stack: OpenWeb 12/03/2009 (a.m.) .::. Size~: 74.52 KB | Dec 04 11:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/fingerprinting_3.html | Dec 04 11:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Schneier on Security: Fingerprinting RFID Chips .::. Size~: 51.59 KB | Dec 04 11:51 |
| schestowitz | Bing went Bong. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8394676.stm | Dec 04 12:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 85.09 KB | Dec 04 12:09 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft has apologised for a brief outage which saw its search site Bing disappear from the internet." | Dec 04 12:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Power : #Video Demo (64-Bit) http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/04/kde-power-video-demo-64-bit/ | Dec 04 12:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KDE Power: Video Demo (64-Bit) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 89 KB | Dec 04 12:09 |
| schestowitz | They should use Linux for Bong, just like LSE | Dec 04 12:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Solar planes seem like a gimmick that costs a lot to make and will carry too little http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8393688.stm | Dec 04 12:11 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 85.12 KB | Dec 04 12:11 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what do you make of Intel's 'fog' processor? | Dec 04 12:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | yo | Dec 04 12:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | you mean that 48 core shit? | Dec 04 12:14 |
| MinceR | i'd like a less brief outage that would see bingo disappear from the internet forever. | Dec 04 12:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/03/youtube-wraps-up-another-content-sharing-deal | Dec 04 12:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube Wraps Up Another Content-Sharing Deal | WebProNews .::. Size~: 32.15 KB | Dec 04 12:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: then you can have Live/MSN bacl | Dec 04 12:16 |
| schestowitz | It's practically the same thing | Dec 04 12:16 |
| schestowitz | 48-core is not much of a sotry | Dec 04 12:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, it "is" | Dec 04 12:16 |
| schestowitz | There have been 64-core ones... | Dec 04 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Question is, how fast? | Dec 04 12:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | they've basically plugged 48 atom cores into quickpath interconnect. | Dec 04 12:17 |
| schestowitz | 48 trolls are not a dragon? | Dec 04 12:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | its an incredibly stupid waste of time, of course | Dec 04 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Well, it's called "cccccccccccccllllllllllloud", so some people will bite | Dec 04 12:17 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: i'd rather not have its old names back either | Dec 04 12:18 |
| schestowitz | They might swap again | Dec 04 12:18 |
| zoobab | Roy, r u there? | Dec 04 12:18 |
| schestowitz | They already had a "2.0" announcement | Dec 04 12:18 |
| schestowitz | "Bing 2.0" in OCtober | Dec 04 12:18 |
| zoobab | swpat on the agenda now | Dec 04 12:18 |
| zoobab | on the Council | Dec 04 12:18 |
| zoobab | press conference now | Dec 04 12:18 |
| zoobab | http://video.consilium.europa.eu/index.php?pl=&sessionno=2625&lang=EN | Dec 04 12:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 04 12:18 |
| MinceR | well, it's time to look for a new name, as neither did the trick | Dec 04 12:18 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: you PM another account | Dec 04 12:18 |
| zoobab | I need some help to dump the stream | Dec 04 12:18 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: hold on.. | Dec 04 12:19 |
| schestowitz | I have something | Dec 04 12:19 |
| zoobab | http://video.consilium.europa.eu/asx/ceulive_2.asx | Dec 04 12:19 |
| MinceR | somehow they haven't found this magical name that makes their search engine return relevant results | Dec 04 12:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 04 12:19 |
| MinceR | perhaps it would be time to look into technology instead? nah... | Dec 04 12:19 |
| schestowitz | I wrote an article about it | Dec 04 12:19 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/mysql-sun-complex/ | Dec 04 12:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: MySQL Juggles Business Models, Life with Sun, and Software Patents | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 125.6 KB | Dec 04 12:19 |
| zoobab | I need help with dumping the stream of the press conference | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | Maybe MinceR knows... | Dec 04 12:20 |
| zoobab | http://video.consilium.europa.eu/asx/ceulive_2.asx | Dec 04 12:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 04 12:20 |
| zoobab | mplayer -v -dumpstream -dumpfile file.wmv http://video.consilium.europa.eu/asx/ceulive_2.asx | Dec 04 12:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a | Dec 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Setting up libc-bin (2.10.1-0ubuntu15) ... | Dec 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-nogui | Dec 04 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Reading package lists... Done | Dec 04 12:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Council Press conference about UPLS in a minute: http://i5.be/WZ | Dec 04 12:22 | |
| schestowitz | I can't get the stream | Dec 04 12:22 |
| schestowitz | =====> ASF Prerecorded | Dec 04 12:23 |
| schestowitz | size_confirm mismatch!: 30835 28271 | Dec 04 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Error while parsing chunk header | Dec 04 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Resolving video.consilium.europa.eu for AF_INET6... | Dec 04 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: video.consilium.europa.eu | Dec 04 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Resolving video.consilium.europa.eu for AF_INET... | Dec 04 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Connecting to server video.consilium.europa.eu[213.181.33.135]: 80... | Dec 04 12:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/03/microsoft-throws-internet-explorer-rivals-a-bone-in-europe | Dec 04 12:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Throws IE Rivals A Bone In Europe | WebProNews .::. Size~: 32.66 KB | Dec 04 12:24 |
| zoobab | mplayer -v -dumpstream -dumpfile council-`date +%T`.wmv http://video.consilium.europa.eu/asx/ceulive_2.asx | Dec 04 12:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 04 12:24 |
| schestowitz | They don't "throw a bone", they committed crimes, they need to have the impact retracted | Dec 04 12:24 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: no go | Dec 04 12:24 |
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| zoobab | still not started | Dec 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3767fb72-dfab-11de-98ca-00144feab49a,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F3767fb72-dfab-11de-98ca-00144feab49a.html%3Fnclick_check%3D1&_i_referer=&nclick_check=1 | Dec 04 12:25 |
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| zoobab | it should start within some minutes | Dec 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: did you see my Sun/mysql/patents article? | Dec 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz | It took me hours to research | Dec 04 12:25 |
| zoobab | which one? the one of April? | Dec 04 12:25 |
| schestowitz | I also spoke to Mickos and RMS for it | Dec 04 12:26 |
| zoobab | cool | Dec 04 12:26 |
| zoobab | url? | Dec 04 12:26 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/mysql-sun-complex/ | Dec 04 12:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: MySQL Juggles Business Models, Life with Sun, and Software Patents | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 125.6 KB | Dec 04 12:26 |
| schestowitz | And Phipps nagged about it cause he has to follow the Sun shareholders idea of swpats | Dec 04 12:27 |
| zoobab | what is their idea? | Dec 04 12:27 |
| zoobab | was Phipps happy about the article? | Dec 04 12:28 |
| zoobab | ls | Dec 04 12:32 |
| zoobab | l | Dec 04 12:38 |
| MinceR | ls -l | Dec 04 12:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Sales-continue-to-decline-at-Novell-877172.html | Dec 04 12:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sales continue to decline at Novell - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 31.63 KB | Dec 04 12:47 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: don't know about that one in particular | Dec 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz | dir /w | Dec 04 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Oops./ Wrong window. :-p | Dec 04 12:48 |
| fewa | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/a/ab/Beaners.jpg | Dec 04 12:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 04 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm....... | Dec 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Sow it to DaemonRyan | Dec 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz | *Show | Dec 04 12:50 |
| MinceR | offensive filename win | Dec 04 12:50 |
| fewa | I think that protestor has a point | Dec 04 12:50 |
| fewa | MinceR, yeah... | Dec 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know that Asians came from Spain | Dec 04 12:50 |
| MinceR | they're all immigrants, except for the native americans | Dec 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 04 12:51 |
| fewa | yep | Dec 04 12:51 |
| MinceR | even those are immigrants actually | Dec 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz | And they came through Alaska, AFAIK | Dec 04 12:51 |
| MinceR | iirc we all came from the olduvai(sp?) gorge | Dec 04 12:51 |
| fewa | Mexicans are partially native american however | Dec 04 12:51 |
| MinceR | not that any of this matters | Dec 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz | fewa: yes | Dec 04 12:51 |
| fewa | The US and Canada were the only American colonies that did not intermarry | Dec 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz | The South Americans mostly, I think | Dec 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Inca tribes | Dec 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Peru..... | Dec 04 12:52 |
| fewa | South america and Spanish America intermarried | Dec 04 12:52 |
| fewa | but it was taboo in US and Canada | Dec 04 12:52 |
| schestowitz | WHat? No way. What about Pokahontas? :-) | Dec 04 12:52 |
| fewa | aka Brit America and French America | Dec 04 12:53 |
| fewa | even though there were more Germans in Brit america than english, scotish, irish | Dec 04 12:53 |
| schestowitz | Google launches free Public DNS http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/12/03/google-launches-free-public-dns/ | Dec 04 12:53 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google launches free Public DNS RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 23.26 KB | Dec 04 12:53 |
| fewa | and that Brit America conquored New Sweden, New Netherlands, and ?New Denmark | Dec 04 12:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/12/02/caught-between-the-pavement-and-a-suzuki-sv1000s/ | Dec 04 12:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Caught between the pavement and a Suzuki SV1000s RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 38.43 KB | Dec 04 12:54 |
| schestowitz | "I spent most of the last three days at San Francisco General Hospital, which even when you’re not being directly treated makes you feel better about yourself in comparison to the miserable people there. The place is like one big giant placebo for your sense of wellbeing as you watch meth users line up to have their rotten teeth extracted." | Dec 04 12:54 |
| schestowitz | Yikes. | Dec 04 12:55 |
| schestowitz | His motorcycle lacks the Apple logo | Dec 04 12:55 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11720&utm_source=feedburner | Dec 04 13:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/grav-mass.html | Dec 04 13:02 |
| fewa | http://www.stallman.org/we-three-laws.html | Dec 04 13:07 |
| schestowitz | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Illegal_prime | Dec 04 13:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Illegal prime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 33.9 KB | Dec 04 13:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0310376420091203 << zoobab | Dec 04 13:17 |
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| MinceR | lol | Dec 04 13:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/geez-google-wants-to-take-over-dns-too/ | Dec 04 13:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Geez, Google Wants to Take Over DNS, Too | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 86.93 KB | Dec 04 13:24 |
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| *schestowitz has kicked fredieC from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Dec 04 13:25 | |
| schestowitz | Mutex nym | Dec 04 13:25 |
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| schestowitz | What's with this dude? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2356603,00.asp ( http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sascha-segan/13/9a7/22b ) | Dec 04 13:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Why Open Source Phones Still Fail - Reviews by PC Magazine .::. Size~: 82.26 KB | Dec 04 13:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sascha Segan - LinkedIn .::. Size~: 23.2 KB | Dec 04 13:28 |
| schestowitz | Windows is not predictable | Dec 04 13:29 |
| schestowitz | SideKick isn't , either | Dec 04 13:29 |
| schestowitz | I'm never trusting English majors who become self-professed technology "gurus" | Dec 04 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Echo chamber of one journo repeating another... and not knowing how computers even work | Dec 04 13:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mobileblog.mobile-deals-compared.co.uk/2009/12/samsung-phones/samsung-bada-coming-on-december-8.html | Dec 04 13:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mobile phone blog – The latest mobile phone news .::. Size~: 85.12 KB | Dec 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Bada is Ballnux | Dec 04 13:37 |
| MinceR | there should be a Gooda, too | Dec 04 13:38 |
| zer0c00l | i am looking for Netgears openrouter , its unavailable , they released that thing or not? | Dec 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz | They ought to be using Enlightenment | Dec 04 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Light (for phones), yet pretty | Dec 04 13:45 |
| MinceR | aren't they? | Dec 04 13:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29798/53/ | Dec 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: just rumour | Dec 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Somewhat substantiated (Heise) | Dec 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz | elive->phoronix->the H->others | Dec 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz | But Sumsung won't pull it off | Dec 04 13:47 |
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| schestowitz | Google is too far ahead of it with Android.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyjmfDlp9yI | Dec 04 13:47 |
| schestowitz | THey asked for trouble | Dec 04 13:47 |
| schestowitz | First signing with Microsoft | Dec 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz | For "lInux related" products | Dec 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz | And now they make the same mistake as LiMo, LiPS, and CrunchPad | Dec 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz | But Samsung is big | Dec 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz | Unlike many US companies, Samsung actually does production | Dec 04 13:48 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung | Dec 04 13:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Samsung Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 129.75 KB | Dec 04 13:49 |
| schestowitz | "Employees 276,000[2] (2008)" | Dec 04 13:49 |
| schestowitz | "Total assets ▼ US$252.5 billion[2] (2008)" | Dec 04 13:49 |
| schestowitz | "Revenue ▼ US$173.4 billion[2] (2008)" | Dec 04 13:50 |
| schestowitz | IBM Revenue ▲ US$ 103.63 billion (2008) | Dec 04 13:50 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091203-714421.html | Dec 04 13:52 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Novell 4Q Loss Widens On $279M Charge, Lower Revenue - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 97.23 KB | Dec 04 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Novell is a goner | Dec 04 13:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.examiner.com/x-23513-Baltimore-Computers-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Chrome-soon-to-be-released-for-Mac "Chrome is currently available on Windows and Linux operating environments for some time." | Dec 04 13:54 |
| schestowitz | False. | Dec 04 13:54 |
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| schestowitz | *LOLOLOL* | Dec 04 13:56 |
| schestowitz | "Also take Apple, Hardware AND Software Vendors, ....okayyy, Did you know that Darwin, OS X transition platform, is Linux based. It's the same with Windows NT is Linux based...wait a minute ..you mean these companies used FREE open source for there products??" | Dec 04 13:56 |
| schestowitz | http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10014565o-2000681214b,00.htm | Dec 04 13:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Community on ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 120.84 KB | Dec 04 13:56 |
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| schestowitz | " | Dec 04 13:56 |
| schestowitz | I have an iPhone, it is a great wee doodaa,...but do I like how Apple treats me..no. Do I put up with? yeah, to use the iPhone. | Dec 04 13:56 |
| schestowitz | ...and therein lays the problem. | Dec 04 13:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 04 13:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Swedish Presidency obtains main decision in order to obtain Software Patents in Europe: http://i5.be/W0 | Dec 04 13:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Free Trade Agreement, what the hell is this? (page 6 of the Swedish Presidency adopted paper): http://i5.be/W0 | Dec 04 13:59 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | 35. | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Initially, accession by Contracting States of the European Patent Convention who are not | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Member States of the EU should be open for Contracting Parties to the European Free Trade | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Agreement. After the transitional period, the Mixed Committee could by unanimity decide to | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | invite Contracting States of the European Patent Convention to adhere if they have fully | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | implemented all relevant provisions of EU law and have put into place effective structures for | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | patent protection. | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 04 14:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Amendments to the EPC deemed necessary in this regard should not imply any revision of substantive patent law (read swpats): http://i5.be/W0 | Dec 04 14:02 | |
| schestowitz | Shades of ACTA | Dec 04 14:02 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: can you still turn this to HTML? http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_Data/docs/pressdata/en/intm/111744.pdf | Dec 04 14:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 04 14:03 |
| schestowitz | They wrote this garbage in Microsoft Word | Dec 04 14:04 |
| trmanco | lol | Dec 04 14:04 |
| trmanco | I can try | Dec 04 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Dec 04 14:04 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: yes I can | Dec 04 14:08 |
| trmanco | I can send you this though dcc | Dec 04 14:08 |
| trmanco | through* | Dec 04 14:12 |
| trmanco | :| | Dec 04 14:12 |
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| schestowitz | Ah, thanks! | Dec 04 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up | Dec 04 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Can uou resend? | Dec 04 14:53 |
| trmanco | sure | Dec 04 14:53 |
| schestowitz | I was on the phone for 25 minutes | Dec 04 14:53 |
| schestowitz | *45 | Dec 04 14:53 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: accept | Dec 04 14:55 |
| trmanco | heh, it's timing out :| | Dec 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | I did | Dec 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Try E-mail | Dec 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Please | Dec 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | And thanks a lot | Dec 04 14:56 |
| trmanco | my ports are closed | Dec 04 14:56 |
| schestowitz | I see.... | Dec 04 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Any way of sending it over? | Dec 04 15:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FFII : Swedish Presidency Tries to Sneak #SoftwarePatents Into #Europe http://ur1.ca/h4jl #swpat | Dec 04 15:19 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/dec/04/pamela-stephenson-sexual-healing I dunno what to say other than "what a wanker!" | Dec 04 15:40 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Senator Amy Klobuchar introduces bill to get rid of early termination fees http://ur1.ca/h4ko #politics #hero | Dec 04 15:41 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #CrunchPad to be demoed next monday, will sue everyone who were involved in screwing the project over http://ur1.ca/h4kr | Dec 04 15:41 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: CrunchPad partner plans media event - San Francisco Business Times: .::. Size~: 81.75 KB | Dec 04 15:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] do people with very little hair have second thoughts about a hair cut on the grounds of "it may not grow back" | Dec 04 15:44 | |
| zer0c00l | http://martijn.sudo-s.net/content/about-mono-and-lack-respect-personal-opinions | Dec 04 15:45 |
| zer0c00l | http://martijn.sudo-s.net/content/about-mono-and-lack-respect-personal-opinions | Dec 04 15:45 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: About MONO and lack of respect for personal opinions. | martijn.sudo-s.net .::. Size~: 13.49 KB | Dec 04 15:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: About MONO and lack of respect for personal opinions. | martijn.sudo-s.net .::. Size~: 13.49 KB | Dec 04 15:46 |
| zer0c00l | "Every piece of code written to our standards is a small victory, every piece of code written to other standards is a small defeat." - Microsoft | Dec 04 15:47 |
| zer0c00l | he is being pestered by annon comments | Dec 04 15:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I'm waiting on Harry Potter & The Curse Of The Combover to be written about Harry's later years | Dec 04 15:49 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LSE Dumped Windows for #2GNU #Linux; #Microsoft Should Do the Same http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/04/bing-crashes-and-google-dns/ | Dec 04 16:08 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: LSE Dumped Windows for GNU/Linux; Microsoft Should Do the Same (Bing Crashes) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 94.49 KB | Dec 04 16:08 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mr. Gates’ needle business comes under attack from the very same people he purports to be helping http://ur1.ca/h4ny | Dec 04 16:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: AIDS Organisation Manager: “Gates Has Created a Huge Blood-Buying Operation That Only Cares About Money, Not About People” | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 94.91 KB | Dec 04 16:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/183711/microsoft_bing_suffers_outage.html | Dec 04 16:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Bing Suffers Outage - PC World Business Center .::. Size~: 54.03 KB | Dec 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz | zer0c00l|Afk: thanks! | Dec 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz | I'm writing about it now | Dec 04 16:32 |
| *zer0c00l|Afk is now known as zer0c00l | Dec 04 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: that question seems to be fake | Dec 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz | See the comments on it... | Dec 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/dec/04/pamela-stephenson-sexual-healing | Dec 04 16:33 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: ok | Dec 04 16:33 |
| schestowitz | Does the Guardian not fact-check? | Dec 04 16:33 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: anyone capaple of a 20hr shift at anything in one day does not get up the following day to repeat the process | Dec 04 16:34 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: http://identi.ca/mcielen | Dec 04 16:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: martijn cielen (mcielen) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 47.48 KB | Dec 04 16:35 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: he is the author of it | Dec 04 16:35 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: look at his dents | Dec 04 16:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Red Hat Linux without the Red Hat. http://bit.ly/50Bmoz | Dec 04 16:42 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Red Hat Linux without the Red Hat - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 137 KB | Dec 04 16:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mono and #Moonlight are projects that one cannot ever criticise safely http://ur1.ca/h4p4 | Dec 04 16:45 | |
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| schestowitz | ACT is being caught up with... | Dec 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz | 23)1410/2008/10/09/act-reported-to-ftc/ | Dec 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz | 20)1438/2008/11/03/lobbyist-jonathan-invades-eu-ip-summer/ | Dec 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz | That's thousands of visits on old pages in the past 5 days | Dec 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz | I hope more people will complain to the FTC about those scum | Dec 04 16:47 |
| trmanco | http://dot.kde.org/2009/12/04/kde-software-compilation-44-beta-1-released | Dec 04 16:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta 1 Released | KDE.news .::. Size~: 12.43 KB | Dec 04 16:55 |
| schestowitz | Cool! | Dec 04 16:56 |
| zoobab | what? | Dec 04 16:57 |
| zoobab | what happened with ACT? | Dec 04 16:57 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I am very impressed and amused by this article of OpenBytes (the GNUtee blog of Goblin): http://tinyurl.com/yanvyze | Dec 04 17:13 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Page not found « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 23.24 KB | Dec 04 17:13 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: I looked at some stats | Dec 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Thousands of hits on some old pages about ACT | Dec 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Like 4,000 visitors in the past 4 days... about ACT | Dec 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz | I can't see what led to it, though | Dec 04 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You were talking about the TV I got using a lot of power | Dec 04 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | It actually uses about 25% less than my old TV while having a screen that's ~20% larger | Dec 04 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I would think that as millions of people replace old CRT televisions with LCD models, that will add up fast | Dec 04 17:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Dominates #Server #Uptime Charts (60%-70% of Top 10) http://ur1.ca/h4qq | Dec 04 17:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | the FSF is being irresponsible when they tell people to hoard obsolete TV sets | Dec 04 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's like telling people to buy more SUVs | Dec 04 17:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Working Room Gets the #GNU #Linux Treatment http://lifehacker.com/5418143/before-and-after-the-linux-lovers-lair | Dec 04 17:26 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Before and After: The Linux Lover's Lair - Workspaces - Lifehacker .::. Size~: 68.37 KB | Dec 04 17:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Defence of the Potential of #Google 's #GNU #Linux ( #ChromeOS ) http://ur1.ca/h4qy | Dec 04 17:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Chrome OS: Rise of the lean, mean netbook | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 35.89 KB | Dec 04 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704007804574573771532217650.html | Dec 04 17:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Costs of Copenhagen - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 111.76 KB | Dec 04 17:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux #Kernel Space in Review/Overview http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Linux-2632/?kc=rss | Dec 04 17:29 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New Linux kernel boosts graphics support, enhances KVM - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.22 KB | Dec 04 17:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tracking Missing #GNU #Linux Notebooks with #Pombo http://ur1.ca/h4r7 | Dec 04 17:31 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux CE 6.0 in Beta, Ubuntu #Server Wants Input http://ur1.ca/h4ri http://ur1.ca/h4rj | Dec 04 17:38 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what about it? | Dec 04 17:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: making new TVs makes pollution too | Dec 04 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | the FSF is promoting wasting of electricity and global warming | Dec 04 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Making all these components emits tons of waste AND CO2 in Asia | Dec 04 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: So? | Dec 04 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Same argument about solar energy | Dec 04 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | CRT sets will get darker and darker and fail anyway | Dec 04 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | or get dead spots | Dec 04 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Making panels can be more costly than what they produce in their lifetime, some argue | Dec 04 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | you'll need to replace it then | Dec 04 17:41 |
| schestowitz | It's a trade-off | Dec 04 17:41 |
| schestowitz | I still use one LCD and one CRT right now | Dec 04 17:41 |
| schestowitz | At work I use two large CRTs | Dec 04 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | {who} | Dec 04 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Dec 04 17:41 |
| schestowitz | They are perfectly usable | Dec 04 17:41 |
| schestowitz | They are better in some ways | Dec 04 17:42 |
| schestowitz | Higher resolution | Dec 04 17:42 |
| schestowitz | I get 3900px in width at work | Dec 04 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | you'd have to have paid a lot of money for that | Dec 04 17:42 |
| schestowitz | I can't get that here even with widescreens | Dec 04 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | even the cheap CRTs never got much over 1280 x 768, and that's at 60 hz | Dec 04 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | that's when you could still walk into a store and buy one | Dec 04 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | nobody has those anymore | Dec 04 17:43 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, http://www.archive.org/details/dn2007-1204_vid http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/4/fact_checking_dobbs_cnn_anchor_lou | Dec 04 17:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't care about Lou Dobbs | Dec 04 17:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Linux #Devices and BSPs Debut http://ur1.ca/h4rr http://ur1.ca/h4ru | Dec 04 17:44 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Cortex-A8 module ships with baseboard, Linux BSP - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.92 KB | Dec 04 17:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sensor mote platform offers Linux IDE - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 63.17 KB | Dec 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | fewa: If you don't care about high unemployment, keep arguing that illegals should be here | Dec 04 17:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Phones Running #Linux to Dominate Within Years http://ur1.ca/h4rw | Dec 04 17:45 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Smartphone Sales to Overtake Regular Handsets by 2015 Says New Report .::. Size~: 103.45 KB | Dec 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | keep watching Americans get fired to make way for cheap under the table labor | Dec 04 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | fewa: You're arguing in favor of big business exploiting people wholesale | Dec 04 17:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Details About a Lighter Version of #ChromeOS for Sub-notebooks http://ur1.ca/h4rz | Dec 04 17:46 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Diet Chromium Offers Slimmed Down Chrome OS - LinuxWorld .::. Size~: 37.04 KB | Dec 04 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | the illegal Mexicans are willing to undercut American workers and the businesses that hire them are happy with that arrangement | Dec 04 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | why wouldn't they be? | Dec 04 17:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | a... lighter version? | Dec 04 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | fewa: How do you get 20 McDonalds workers in Dayton, Ohio to run out the back door? | Dec 04 17:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | YO DAWG, I HEARD YOU LIKE ANDROID, SO I PUT ANDROID IN YOUR CHROME, SO YOU CAN ANDROID WHILE YOU CHROME | Dec 04 17:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | or something | Dec 04 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Walk in and shout "I.C.E.! Freeze!" | Dec 04 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | I filled out a report on the family of a local restaurant owner | Dec 04 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | he's legal, but his family isn't | Dec 04 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | he's employing them | Dec 04 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | he keeps them in the kitchen and hires Americans to work in front so nobody sees the illegal activity happening | Dec 04 17:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BSD #MIPS Port Added http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/news/article.php/3851031/Juniper-Backs-FreeBSD-With-MIPS-Port.htm | Dec 04 17:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: electromagnetic radiation and lead glass is also bad for the environment | Dec 04 17:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Intuit Goes with #FreeSoftware for #VoIP http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=459970 | Dec 04 17:54 | |
| DaemonFC | (CRT screens) | Dec 04 17:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BERNAMA - Intuit Spreading Its Wings .::. Size~: 113.53 KB | Dec 04 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | CRT sets weigh three times as much for an equal screen size | Dec 04 17:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Media and #FreeSoftware Symbiosis http://ur1.ca/h4sp http://ur1.ca/h4sq http://ur1.ca/h4sr | Dec 04 17:57 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Boxees Open Attempt to Crack the Closed World of Content GigaOM .::. Size~: 68.01 KB | Dec 04 17:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: What Journalists Can Learn From the FOSS Community .::. Size~: 33.94 KB | Dec 04 17:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #OpenOffice .org GUI is Coming http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_ui_for_openoffice_org | Dec 04 17:58 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New UI for OpenOffice.org? When? - GullFOSS .::. Size~: 67.36 KB | Dec 04 17:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FogComputing Puts More #FreeSoftware on the Web (Sometimes #AGPLv3 ) http://ur1.ca/h4st http://ur1.ca/h4su | Dec 04 18:01 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Funambol Helps Sync Billions of Devices to the Cloud .::. Size~: 35.37 KB | Dec 04 18:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Open source: The money is in the cloud | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 93.86 KB | Dec 04 18:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Firefox 3.6 Maybe Out This Month http://ur1.ca/h4tc | Dec 04 18:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mozilla adds extra Firefox 3.6 beta, still plans to ship final in 2009 - LinuxWorld .::. Size~: 37.57 KB | Dec 04 18:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Eben Moglen Weighs in on #Oracle - #Sun and #Databases http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0310376420091203 | Dec 04 18:10 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Release of #Audacity 1.3.10 is Near http://ostatic.com/blog/audacity-1-3-10-beta-inches-project-closer-to-next-major-release | Dec 04 18:11 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Audacity 1.3.10 Beta Inches Project Closer To Next Major Release .::. Size~: 35.3 KB | Dec 04 18:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Libre #CMS Software Rises http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/gilbaneboston-the-rise-of-open-source-in-content-management-006189.php | Dec 04 18:13 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: #GilbaneBoston: The Rise of Open Source in Content Management .::. Size~: 64.2 KB | Dec 04 18:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Samsung #Ballnux (Microsoft-taxed Linux) Comes Next Week http://ur1.ca/h4tt | Dec 04 18:19 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Samsung Bada Coming on December 8 | Mobile Deals Compared Blog .::. Size~: 42.24 KB | Dec 04 18:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mandy Slapped Down by Lords Over #MAFIAA Bill http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/353842/lords-raise-fears-over-digital-economy-bill | Dec 04 18:22 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lords raise fears over Digital Economy Bill | Broadband | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 36.9 KB | Dec 04 18:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Censorship in the News, Failures to Adapt http://ur1.ca/h4ty http://ur1.ca/h4tz | Dec 04 18:24 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC News - Web limit on police 'naming and shaming' of criminals .::. Size~: 50.43 KB | Dec 04 18:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Newspapers Arent Aged News Theyre TiVoed News, The iPods Of News! .::. Size~: 53.55 KB | Dec 04 18:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/04/microsofts-bing-down-for-45-minutes | Dec 04 18:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft's Bing Down for 45 Minutes | WebProNews .::. Size~: 42.89 KB | Dec 04 18:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: monitors are hardly moved around, so weight doesn't matter | Dec 04 18:34 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to fewa | Dec 04 18:35 | |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Dec 04 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/04/reuterscom-rolls-out-redesign | Dec 04 18:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Reuters.com Rolls Out Redesign | WebProNews .::. Size~: 32.77 KB | Dec 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz | New design looks uglier | Dec 04 18:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Power in #Video http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/04/gnome-power-demo/ | Dec 04 18:47 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: GNOME Power in Video | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 89.06 KB | Dec 04 18:47 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 04 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Data recovery firm lists its strangest cases http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1564926/data-recovery-firm-lists-strangest | Dec 04 19:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/terrorist_elf/ | Dec 04 19:10 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Georgia cops cuff terrorist elf • The Register .::. Size~: 28.71 KB | Dec 04 19:10 |
| schestowitz | "No explosives were found, and Caldwell finally got his picture taken (right) by Clayton County Sheriff's Office as they booked him on charges including "possessing hoax devices and making terrorist threats"." | Dec 04 19:10 |
| schestowitz | They cross a boundary here | Dec 04 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Threats as a crime rather than possession | Dec 04 19:10 |
| trmanco | I'n gonna install arch linux in a vm right now :D | Dec 04 19:15 |
| trmanco | wait | Dec 04 19:15 |
| trmanco | I'll try gentoo | Dec 04 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/dell_poland/ | Dec 04 19:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dell offloads Polish factory to Taiwanese manufacturer • Channel Register .::. Size~: 20.18 KB | Dec 04 19:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @maslett most current MySQL users will continue to use it whatever happens but most would like to see it in an independent foundation | Dec 04 19:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post - Is FLOSS The New Age Of Digital Enlightenment? | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/ygf2fvz | Dec 04 19:29 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Is FLOSS The New Age Of Digital Enlightenment? | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 17.21 KB | Dec 04 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Dubious: http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/6273637071 | Dec 04 19:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / Glyn Moody: RT @remixtures RT @sivavai ... .::. Size~: 10.3 KB | Dec 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz | They probably redefined what energy is measured | Dec 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz | http://coldunited.com/2009/12/41c-in-yakutsk-now/ | Dec 04 19:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: -41C in Yakutsk now | ColdUnited .::. Size~: 53.32 KB | Dec 04 19:34 |
| ender2070_ | arch > gentoo | Dec 04 19:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody The end of the Arctic - http://bit.ly/7mr2Sh great piece, evocative writing (via @timbray) #climatechange | Dec 04 19:36 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: THE ARCTIC IS MELTING | More Intelligent Life .::. Size~: 47.21 KB | Dec 04 19:36 |
| schestowitz | LFS > * | Dec 04 19:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Microsoft lobbyist Jonathan Zuck of ACT welcomes the deal of today on software patents and central patent court: http://i5.be/W3 | Dec 04 19:40 | |
| MinceR | better look up or even try all three :> | Dec 04 19:41 |
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| trmanco | :| | Dec 04 19:43 |
| trmanco | I can't mount my hda1 LOL | Dec 04 19:43 |
| schestowitz | what's on it? | Dec 04 19:45 |
| trmanco | I used cfdisk | Dec 04 19:45 |
| trmanco | the type is "Linux" so I assume it's ext3 | Dec 04 19:45 |
| trmanco | but mount wont mount it saying that it can't find nothing ext3 on it | Dec 04 19:45 |
| trmanco | I'll brb | Dec 04 19:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] No matter how many times I look at draws like SA 2010 I always forget them until the tournament begins, still Group G looks tough. | Dec 04 19:46 | |
| ender2070_ | could be ext4 | Dec 04 19:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Commission says that UPLS will lower the cost of a single case to 200,000EUR !!! Cheap litigation hein !!!: http://i5.be/W4 | Dec 04 19:50 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Brussels brokers EU-wide patenting 'breakthrough' | Irish Examiner .::. Size~: 24.96 KB | Dec 04 19:50 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://valleywag.gawker.com/5417192/google-rejects-awesome-people-so-it-doesnt-hog-all-of-them | Dec 04 19:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Rejects Awesome People So It Doesn't Hog All of Them - Google - Gawker .::. Size~: 65.6 KB | Dec 04 19:51 |
| MinceR | it would be a horrible waste to hog all awesome people and occupy them with crappy non-search projects | Dec 04 19:53 |
| schestowitz | "It's disaster in the desert. Late last week, Dubai World quasi-defaulted — and took the Emirate's credibility with it. Will Dubai meet its obligations? It's the question the beancounters of the universe are nervously asking. As usual, it's the wrong question." | Dec 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/haque/2009/12/why_dubai_defaulted_and_what_a.html | Dec 04 19:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Why Dubai Defaulted And What America Should Learn From It - Umair Haque - HarvardBusiness.org .::. Size~: 103.9 KB | Dec 04 19:57 |
| *Diablo-D3 has quit ("do coders dream of sheep()?") | Dec 04 20:01 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Apparently the FOSS advocates have Twitter, not Identi.ca. I should have read closer. My bad. http://tinyurl.com/y9z3ulg | Dec 04 20:12 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lets Tweet .::. Size~: 20.16 KB | Dec 04 20:12 |
| schestowitz | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/introducing-google-public-dns.html | Dec 04 20:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Official Google Blog: Introducing Google Public DNS .::. Size~: 82.79 KB | Dec 04 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Googlenet | Dec 04 20:13 |
| MinceR | $_ = "SkyNET"; s/Sky/Google/; print | Dec 04 20:14 |
| MinceR | ? | Dec 04 20:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 04 20:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EtherPad: the edits are transmitted through our servers, which process them according to our patent-pending edit synchronization algorithm. | Dec 04 20:16 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] At @tonywhitmore's place with @daviey and @ciemon and @lauracowen ready to record @uupc ! | Dec 04 20:32 | |
| schestowitz | http://googleworlddomination.com/ | Dec 04 20:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google World Domination .::. Size~: 7.32 KB | Dec 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Next up: Googloo | Dec 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Then, the world@! | Dec 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mercurynews.com/sunnyvale/ci_13921041?source=rss&nclick_check=1 | Dec 04 20:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft, Google in battle to win over students - San Jose Mercury News .::. Size~: 65.32 KB | Dec 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Stupid admins | Dec 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Selling kids | Dec 04 20:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.daniweb.com/news/story243628.html | Dec 04 20:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: I want a natural gas-fueled microturbine-cooled server - Networking Hardware Configuration News Story .::. Size~: 45.1 KB | Dec 04 20:43 |
| tessier | WTF? | Dec 04 20:48 |
| tessier | Someone bought PJ an audio recording of the SCO July bankruptcy hearing and she can't share it? | Dec 04 20:48 |
| tessier | But we can buy our own copies if we want? | Dec 04 20:48 |
| tessier | The court is exercising copyright control over them and making money on our tax paid justice system? | Dec 04 20:48 |
| tessier | Oh...she can tell us. But cannot let us listen to it. | Dec 04 20:49 |
| tessier | Lame. | Dec 04 20:49 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: you seen the latest netbooks at tesco? dual booting with xp and android | Dec 04 20:50 |
| ThistleWeb | http://direct.tesco.com/q/N.2000100/Nr.99.aspx?Ns=P_HIDDEN_Stock_Available|1||P_SORT_Price&btnResultSort.x=29&btnResultSort.y=10 | Dec 04 20:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Netbooks in PC, photo and gaming Direct - Tesco.Direct .::. Size~: 54.12 KB | Dec 04 20:50 |
| ThistleWeb | look at the details on one of them...."xp for ull functionaility and android for instant on, net apps" | Dec 04 20:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-12-03-024-35-IN-DV-0007 "I on the other hand have spent a lot of hours studying this sort of issue; my opinion, and Schestowitz's, are probably worth a good deal *more* than de Icaza's on this issue." | Dec 04 20:51 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - Miguel de Icaza And Mono: Platform-Agnostic Programming Power .::. Size~: 77.11 KB | Dec 04 20:51 |
| ThistleWeb | I note they also call it a "dual operating system" rather than dual booting | Dec 04 20:51 |
| ThistleWeb | their IT peeps showing their qualities yet again ;) | Dec 04 20:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/javascript/article.php/11877_3850921_1 | Dec 04 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | tessier: Just leak it out anonymously | Dec 04 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | Is there any DRM on the file itself? | Dec 04 21:10 |
| trmanco | http://www.bash.org/?870063 | Dec 04 21:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: QDB: Quote #870063 .::. Size~: 7.27 KB | Dec 04 21:12 |
| schestowitz | Google Public DNS: | Dec 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | 8.8.8.8 | Dec 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | 8.8.4.4 | Dec 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | How did they get these numbers? | Dec 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: any articles about http://direct.tesco.com/q/N.2000100/Nr.99.aspx?Ns=P_HIDDEN_Stock_Available|1||P_SORT_Price&btnResultSort.x=29&btnResultSort.y=10 | Dec 04 21:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Netbooks in PC, photo and gaming Direct - Tesco.Direct .::. Size~: 54.12 KB | Dec 04 21:14 |
| schestowitz | It just came out of nowhere | Dec 04 21:14 |
| trmanco | it's Google | Dec 04 21:15 |
| trmanco | does anything else need to be said? | Dec 04 21:15 |
| ThistleWeb | that link may not have went right, if you sort by price, low to high, the furst few on the list are xp and android acers | Dec 04 21:17 |
| trmanco | what a weird looking links | Dec 04 21:17 |
| trmanco | link* | Dec 04 21:17 |
| trmanco | I'm impressed the bot picked it up | Dec 04 21:18 |
| ThistleWeb | I just stumbled across it tonight, when it occurred to me that I may be able to get a netbook around christmas, maybe in the sales....I started doing some homework and found them | Dec 04 21:18 |
| ThistleWeb | This product features a Windows XP Home and Google Android Dual Operating System | Dec 04 21:18 |
| ThistleWeb | lol, they still haven't gotten round to updating their guide page too, the latest is still listed as Vista | Dec 04 21:22 |
| ThistleWeb | http://direct.tesco.com/buyersguide/computing.aspx | Dec 04 21:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Computer Guide - Computing & Phones - Buying Guides - Tesco.Direct .::. Size~: 31.53 KB | Dec 04 21:22 |
| schestowitz | http://firedoglake.com/2009/12/02/using-photos-of-abu-zubaydahs-torture-to-intimidate-and-threaten-other-prisoners/ http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/honduras-and-haiti-us-rules-proxy | Dec 04 21:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Firedoglake » Using Photos of Abu Zubaydahs Torture to Intimidate and Threaten Other Prisoners .::. Size~: 110.1 KB | Dec 04 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Why didn't Google DNS use 6.6.6.6 | Dec 04 21:37 |
| schestowitz | Do no evil? | Dec 04 21:37 |
| MinceR | the ones they got were probably the cheapest (or only available) at this simplicity | Dec 04 21:37 |
| schestowitz | It looks like good target for DDOS and SSH brute-force | Dec 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | For lazy crackers testing some water | Dec 04 21:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: In Honduras and Haiti, the U.S. Rules by Proxy | Black Agenda Report .::. Size~: 59.39 KB | Dec 04 21:38 |
| MinceR | except that they don't necessarily run SSH on a port that's accessible to everyone and that it isn't necessarily a single server | Dec 04 21:38 |
| schestowitz | 01000010000100001000 | Dec 04 21:38 |
| MinceR | it could well be multi-homed | Dec 04 21:39 |
| MinceR | with SSH on a different (non-public) IP for each DNS server on that address | Dec 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | MAkes me wonder, MinceR | Dec 04 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Maybe instead of IPv6 we could use IPvContraception | Dec 04 21:43 |
| schestowitz | If there are not enough IPs, then reduce nodes /sarcasm | Dec 04 21:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Vote NO on any spending bill that would send more troops to Afghanistan." http://rethinkafghanistan.com/?utm_source=credopetition | Dec 04 21:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Rethink Afghanistan War .::. Size~: 20.07 KB | Dec 04 21:43 |
| schestowitz | We need US citizens for this ^^ | Dec 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Obama is still busy spreading peace to this region | Dec 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | To justify the Nobel prize | Dec 04 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Intl' prize for peace called after dynamite invetor...... | Dec 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | Blackwater must love this year's winner. Lots of contracts without bidding...... | Dec 04 21:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ILa_4uhJkM&feature=related | Dec 04 21:46 |
| fewa | yep, more of the same | Dec 04 21:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Is it just me or does "By Publishers, For Publishers" mean "DRM'd to the hilt"? http://tinyurl.com/y9w72a5 | Dec 04 21:48 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Hearst Launching Kindle Competitor and Platform "By Publishers, For Publishers" .::. Size~: 138.22 KB | Dec 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/what-is-it-with-numlock-and-linux-35692 | Dec 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | fewa: did he not promise voters to pull out? | Dec 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | I know there was a mixed message... with Kerry too | Dec 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | And they defames him despite his real heroism in the war... while glorifying McBush | Dec 04 21:51 |
| fewa | schestowitz, no | Dec 04 21:51 |
| fewa | he never said such things | Dec 04 21:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Salon.com Editor Looks Back At Paywalls - Please ignore this Rupe, paywalls are genius lol http://tinyurl.com/ykkfslp | Dec 04 21:51 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Salon.com Editor Looks Back At Paywalls .::. Size~: 136.31 KB | Dec 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Did he not? | Dec 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it was supposed to be kept out of sight? | Dec 04 21:51 |
| fewa | but that sort of message is misconstrued by the media | Dec 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | I thought he talked about it. | Dec 04 21:52 |
| fewa | which purposefully misinforms and misconstrues politicians | Dec 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's one of those off-the-table issues | Dec 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Where both parties are in agreement | Dec 04 21:52 |
| fewa | he said it was "the good war" | Dec 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | So the public is handed no choice | Dec 04 21:52 |
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| fewa | said that Iraq was a "strategic blunder" | Dec 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | fewa: it IS a good war.... to those who profit from it | Dec 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Wars drive spendings | Dec 04 21:53 |
| fewa | yeah, even when running Obama was a Bush III | Dec 04 21:53 |
| fewa | just differn't rhetoric | Dec 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/12/3/11 | Dec 04 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | I think his inexperience there is a door for abuse | Dec 04 21:54 |
| fewa | see how quickly the Democrats turned into the war party as soon as they were the majority? | Dec 04 21:54 |
| schestowitz | He must be getting those lobbyists giving his instructions when entering the parliament | Dec 04 21:54 |
| schestowitz | *sente | Dec 04 21:54 |
| schestowitz | *senate | Dec 04 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Not the war party | Dec 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | THe "peace party" | Dec 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | But the war is assumed to be "for peace" | Dec 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | And I doubt ORLY, FAUX and the neocons can now counter it by pretending to be the "peace party" | Dec 04 21:55 |
| fewa | schestowitz, http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2647 | Dec 04 21:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: H.R. 2647: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 (GovTrack.us) .::. Size~: 39.56 KB | Dec 04 21:55 |
| fewa | http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2009-770 | Dec 04 21:56 |
| fewa | http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2009-327 | Dec 04 21:56 |
| fewa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrUTRyVO7Fc | Dec 04 22:00 |
| fewa | aka the only difference is who gets the pork | Dec 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/new_ui_for_openoffice_org | Dec 04 22:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New UI for OpenOffice.org? When? - GullFOSS .::. Size~: 67.94 KB | Dec 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | fewa: thanks, will look at it in an hour | Dec 04 22:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @ThistleWeb: Just me or does "By Publishers, For Publishers"="DRM'd to the hilt"? http://ur1.ca/h599 "Against Artists, Against Consumers" | Dec 04 22:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Hearst Launching Kindle Competitor and Platform "By Publishers, For Publishers" .::. Size~: 138.77 KB | Dec 04 22:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] @ThistleWeb "Against Artists, Against Consumers" | Dec 04 22:10 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I wonder how many flea markets have been busted for selling counterfeit fleas? :-/ | Dec 04 22:19 | |
| schestowitz | Heh | Dec 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | There are no flees there ;-) | Dec 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | JUST FLEECE | Dec 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | *FLEAS | Dec 04 22:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ThistleWeb "Against Artists, Against Consumers" | Dec 04 22:22 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♻ @ThistleWeb: Just me or does "By Publishers, For Publishers"="DRM'd to the hilt"? http://ur1.ca/h599 "Against Artists, Against Consumers" | Dec 04 22:22 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Hearst Launching Kindle Competitor and Platform "By Publishers, For Publishers" .::. Size~: 138.39 KB | Dec 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Damn. CAPS lock inverted | Dec 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Google used to feed dictionaries, now it becomes one | Dec 04 22:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.suseblog.com/ubuntu-installs-upgrades-fail "You’re “merely sharing” vastly skewed data, from a support forum, which is frequented mostly by people who need support." | Dec 04 22:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu: 1/3 of Installs, Upgrades Result in Fail? | OpenSUSE Linux Rants .::. Size~: 55.63 KB | Dec 04 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft FUD or just inflated by Microsofters | Dec 04 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Using improper numbers to confuse some IMHO | Dec 04 22:36 |
| schestowitz | It's like going to the hospital to conduct a survey on how many people at large are ill | Dec 04 22:37 |
| MinceR | http://www.scroogle.org/doctorow.html | Dec 04 22:42 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz quit being political, stick to linux and opensource news" http://twitter.com/stevejberry/statuses/6350225043 | Dec 04 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | Shame really... | Dec 04 22:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #stevejberry OK, I'll try | Dec 04 22:45 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Since England got a kind WC draw, what's the bet they'll start the tournament with the usual "we've already won" attitude and get dumped out | Dec 04 22:52 | |
| *schestowitz watches Ron Paul Asks Clinton & Gates if They Support the Bush Doctrine < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrUTRyVO7Fc > | Dec 04 22:53 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] do bra companies have support channels? they seem like an ideal mix | Dec 04 23:05 | |
| schestowitz | "Drove him into a closet..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhT4Qq0sN3Y | Dec 04 23:07 |
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| satipera | I do not know if this 2007 Haliburton application for a patent on patent trolling is well known or not, but anywhere here it ishttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2008/0270152.html | Dec 04 23:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Patent Acquisition and Assertion by a (Non-Inventor) First Party Against a Second Party - Patent Application 20080270152 .::. Size~: 72.3 KB | Dec 04 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | fewa: Amy Goodman doesn't know what the Magna Carta is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHaXtSXD8ww | Dec 04 23:39 |
| fewa | shes American | Dec 04 23:49 |
| fewa | and the carta is largely symbolic | Dec 04 23:50 |
| fewa | the harry truman reference great | Dec 04 23:51 |
| fewa | that was truman for u... | Dec 04 23:51 |
| fewa | perpetual war, perpetual war | Dec 04 23:52 |
| fewa | but yes | Dec 04 23:54 |
| fewa | is important part of history | Dec 04 23:54 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I was surprised | Dec 04 23:58 |
| schestowitz | And she hid the ignorance | Dec 04 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Isn't it taught in elementary school? | Dec 04 23:58 |
| fewa | not really | Dec 04 23:58 |
| fewa | No | Dec 04 23:58 |
| fewa | unless | Dec 04 23:58 |
| fewa | basically schools suck in the US | Dec 04 23:58 |
| fewa | depends where you are still... | Dec 04 23:59 |
| fewa | but honestly schools would focus more on the constitution | Dec 04 23:59 |
| fewa | more important for US audience | Dec 04 23:59 |
| fewa | with a little mention of magna carta | Dec 04 23:59 |
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