| cubezzz | ok, the nettop you pay $66 more for doze | Dec 07 00:00 |
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| *schestowitz sets ban on fredieC!*@* | Dec 07 00:00 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked fredieC from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Dec 07 00:00 | |
| oiaohm | Really if amd scales up there next design Intel chip is a sitting duck. | Dec 07 00:00 |
| cubezzz | $416.99 for Linux edition, $527 for dozer edition | Dec 07 00:01 |
| cubezzz | so why not save :) | Dec 07 00:01 |
| cubezzz | er, $461.99 | Dec 07 00:01 |
| cubezzz | yeah, I guess AMD is better for price/performance/morality? | Dec 07 00:02 |
| cubezzz | there's tons and tons of intel atom stuff around | Dec 07 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Amd design reduces the duplication of x86 code conversion. | Dec 07 00:02 |
| oiaohm | So the core gets to run more native code. | Dec 07 00:03 |
| oiaohm | atom is about blocking arm getting into the low end. | Dec 07 00:03 |
| cubezzz | yes, I'm having trouble finding ARM laptop, but there's the Archos Linux Internet Tablet which is $169 | Dec 07 00:04 |
| cubezzz | that is ARM | Dec 07 00:04 |
| oiaohm | Arm is also having a demard issue. | Dec 07 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Ie too much. | Dec 07 00:05 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people did not notice that samsung harddrives now have arm processors on them. | Dec 07 00:06 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Dec 07 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Then arm is turning up in some of those high end tv;s. | Dec 07 00:07 |
| oiaohm | Its more of a issue of getting spare production space. | Dec 07 00:07 |
| cubezzz | I'm on the look out for TV hacks | Dec 07 00:08 |
| oiaohm | Lot of them already exist for samsung tvs | Dec 07 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Including using them as pvrs | Dec 07 00:09 |
| cubezzz | maybe my DSL modem runs ARM too, not sure | Dec 07 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Lot do | Dec 07 00:09 |
| oiaohm | Normally arm or ppc | Dec 07 00:09 |
| cubezzz | my router does for sure | Dec 07 00:09 |
| oiaohm | ppc for a reason. | Dec 07 00:09 |
| oiaohm | ppc does not need ram to run programs. | Dec 07 00:09 |
| cubezzz | interesting | Dec 07 00:10 |
| oiaohm | Arm is better on the power effectiveness to ppc but ppc due to needing less ram can be built cheaper. | Dec 07 00:11 |
| cubezzz | how much ram does the ppc have? | Dec 07 00:12 |
| oiaohm | Depends on how good of coder you are if you need ram or not with ppc. You can operate purely in registers in ppc | Dec 07 00:14 |
| oiaohm | Systems with PPC are out there with just rom no ram. | Dec 07 00:14 |
| oiaohm | Kinda very hard to infect. | Dec 07 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Arm and ppc are both in the custom soc market. Basically as much ram or as little ram in the cpu as you like cubezzz | Dec 07 00:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #EtherPad is Back Online Until Open Sourced http://etherpad.com/ep/blog/posts/etherpad-back-online-until-open-sourced | Dec 07 00:16 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Up Even in Otherwise-Failing Company http://ur1.ca/h8rn | Dec 07 00:18 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Video Review of the #Linux -powered #Nokia #N900 http://ur1.ca/h8ro http://ur1.ca/h8rp | Dec 07 00:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FUD About #FreeSoftware Meritocracy Addressed http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/2009/12/best-helmsmen-stand-on-shore.html | Dec 07 00:19 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks Still a Marvellous Growth Area for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/h8rv http://ur1.ca/h8rw | Dec 07 00:21 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LisbonTreaty and Other New Attacks on Citizen #Rights http://ur1.ca/h8rx http://ur1.ca/h8rz http://ur1.ca/h8s1 | Dec 07 00:22 | |
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| cubezzz | people are telnetting into their linux TVs | Dec 07 00:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Types of Attacks on the Population with #IntellectualMonopolies http://ur1.ca/h8s2 | Dec 07 00:23 | |
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| cubezzz | ha, sony is using 2.4 and 2.6 | Dec 07 00:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "Freedom is fragile and must be protected. To sacrifice it, even as a temporary measure, is to betray it." ~ Germaine Greer | Dec 07 00:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Anyone running UNR 9.10, can you please see if bug 493382 affects you? Setting background to changing sets. http://bit.ly/5YPGrA | Dec 07 00:46 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Press Deceives the Masses About #Windows http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/06/brainwashing-the-masses/ | Dec 07 01:38 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BillGates , #PhilipMorris , and the Business of Illness http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/06/gates-foundation-and-tobacco/ | Dec 07 02:19 | |
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| cubezzz | http://www.linuxmovies.org/studios.html | Dec 07 03:17 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, Linux is a superstar | Dec 07 03:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New page: Gartner Group http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group | Dec 07 03:19 | |
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| cubezzz | The Linux movement is obviously on it's way despite Microsoft | Dec 07 03:21 |
| cubezzz | China uses Linux exclusively as the operating system for its Loongson processor family | Dec 07 03:30 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/Ubuntu_Linux_keeps_being_buggy_will_I_go_back_to_XP#comment-5462 | Dec 07 03:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Does HP still void the warranty if you say Linux? | Dec 07 03:33 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: China also preinstalls Linux | Dec 07 03:33 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, on about 30% of new PCs | Dec 07 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's probably the only thing that runs on those systems | Dec 07 03:33 |
| schestowitz | But usually crappy RedFlag | Dec 07 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | aside from FreeBSD | Dec 07 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Red Flag logs you in as root | Dec 07 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | probably has all kinds of Communist spyware | Dec 07 03:35 |
| cubezzz | ASUS EEE PC is all Intel it seems | Dec 07 03:47 |
| cubezzz | PC 900A's are going for $200 US on ebay | Dec 07 03:47 |
| cubezzz | EB1501 N330 dual core's for $400 | Dec 07 03:50 |
| cubezzz | anyway, you can get EEE PC with Linux easily enough | Dec 07 03:52 |
| cubezzz | Intel is a powerful force in the market | Dec 07 03:54 |
| schestowitz | Understatement | Dec 07 03:54 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, 4am now, gn | Dec 07 03:54 |
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| DaemonFC | Dear Liquor: We had a deal. You were supposed to make me sexier, smarter and a better dancer. But I saw the video. And I think we need to talk... | Dec 07 04:11 |
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| ViperChief | Sine y'all want to visit us, I figure I would come say "hi." | Dec 07 05:09 |
| CAwesome | Hi. | Dec 07 05:10 |
| ViperChief | Hey. Where's _goblin? | Dec 07 05:10 |
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| ViperChief | He came in pointing out that y'alls room was cooler since you had more people....have you seen how many people are in #windows? Just saying. But, he's not here. :( | Dec 07 05:11 |
| ViperChief | Oooh and #mono has the same amount of people as here. When we leave here, they'll have more. | Dec 07 05:12 |
| Delphiki | What's amusing is that theres still more of us than you | Dec 07 05:12 |
| ViperChief | Holy crap! #novell has 232 people! | Dec 07 05:13 |
| Delphiki | what about #linux | Dec 07 05:13 |
| ViperChief | What I'm doing is pointing out how stupid it is to say that most users == win! | Dec 07 05:13 |
| x33b | I noticed that you guys boycottnovell. Does that mean you don't use the linux kernel? Since novell helps develop it. | Dec 07 05:13 |
| EDavidBurg | After all, the more people in a chat room, the cooler they are | Dec 07 05:13 |
| EDavidBurg | it's documented fact. | Dec 07 05:13 |
| ViperChief | Because, then, Windows would always win. | Dec 07 05:13 |
| ViperChief | lol | Dec 07 05:13 |
| CAwesome | Who the hell cares how many users there are? | Dec 07 05:14 |
| ViperChief | x33b: Youse trollin! | Dec 07 05:14 |
| x33b | ViperChief: I'm not trolling, i just thought of it | Dec 07 05:14 |
| ViperChief | CAwesome: I don't know. _goblin came in one time claiming how boycottnovell was better because of user amount. | Dec 07 05:14 |
| ViperChief | Anyway....so what's with the religous zealotism y'all have? | Dec 07 05:15 |
| ViperChief | I mean without it, our site wouldn't exist...but I'm still curious | Dec 07 05:15 |
| CAwesome | More people drive Hondas than BMWs, so BMWs are automatically crap. | Dec 07 05:15 |
| x33b | #hugeTITS has even more users then all of these channels combined. so that would make it superior right? | Dec 07 05:15 |
| CAwesome | It has one user you dip. | Dec 07 05:16 |
| Delphiki | your logical fallacies are amusing | Dec 07 05:16 |
| x33b | CAwesome: way to fail :P | Dec 07 05:16 |
| ViperChief | I don't know if it works like that | Dec 07 05:16 |
| x33b | I haven't presented any logical arguments for them to be fallacies | Dec 07 05:16 |
| Delphiki | you're using one correlation and applying it to every similar situation | Dec 07 05:16 |
| CAwesome | I fail for believing what you say? | Dec 07 05:17 |
| CAwesome | Sounds about right. | Dec 07 05:17 |
| ViperChief | Delphiki: so...will you answer my question since you wanted to come troll us. I'm really curious? What's with the religousness? | Dec 07 05:17 |
| Delphiki | troll you guys? I said ms sucked | Dec 07 05:17 |
| Delphiki | are you guys ms supporters? | Dec 07 05:17 |
| ViperChief | Yeah. Your comments weren't trollish in nature at all. | Dec 07 05:17 |
| Delphiki | I thought you guys were anti-linux trolls | Dec 07 05:17 |
| ViperChief | I don't really support anyone. | Dec 07 05:17 |
| x33b | So what OS do you guys use then? BSD? That's not "free" though, so gnewsense? | Dec 07 05:18 |
| ViperChief | I complain about all OSes, but mostly about Linux development and the community of idiots and zealots that surround it | Dec 07 05:18 |
| Delphiki | what part of ms sucks makes you think im defending linux? | Dec 07 05:18 |
| ViperChief | gnewsense--now with toe cheese! | Dec 07 05:18 |
| Delphiki | theres plenty of non-ms os's | Dec 07 05:18 |
| ViperChief | Well, I think that grubby was more upset because you were clearly trolling, especially by arguing with me over what I use. | Dec 07 05:18 |
| ViperChief | Don't know where you got x-chat since that's not what I use. | Dec 07 05:19 |
| x33b | Delphiki: there are a lot of them? I know of BSD, Linux, OSX, and a bunch of "projects" that don't go anywhere | Dec 07 05:19 |
| Delphiki | are you not nicksaved ? | Dec 07 05:19 |
| Delphiki | someone using your nick was | Dec 07 05:19 |
| ViperChief | Cool story. | Dec 07 05:19 |
| Delphiki | on nov 28th | Dec 07 05:19 |
| ViperChief | But, it's a hit or miss what I'm using since I use Windows, *BSD, Linux and whatever else I can get to actually play with wireless. | Dec 07 05:20 |
| ViperChief | But, I don't use x-chat. I know that much. | Dec 07 05:20 |
| Delphiki | wireless? you said you're not stupid didnt you | Dec 07 05:20 |
| ViperChief | Oh. I'm sorry, is wireless bad or something? | Dec 07 05:21 |
| ViperChief | Propietary! EVILZ | Dec 07 05:21 |
| x33b | wireless is perfectly fine for every day communication :P | Dec 07 05:21 |
| Delphiki | its a non secure technology | Dec 07 05:21 |
| ViperChief | Is that what it is? | Dec 07 05:21 |
| ViperChief | There's no 100% secure technology. | Dec 07 05:21 |
| x33b | also computers aren't a secure technology :P | Dec 07 05:22 |
| Delphiki | using a wire eliminates one entry point | Dec 07 05:22 |
| Delphiki | you can't secure a house if you don't lock all the doors you have | Dec 07 05:22 |
| ViperChief | And creates another? | Dec 07 05:22 |
| x33b | ViperChief: There is a 100% secure tech, it's called a shotgun | Dec 07 05:22 |
| ViperChief | ooh | Dec 07 05:22 |
| ViperChief | Unless you accidently shoot yourself | Dec 07 05:22 |
| Delphiki | <ViperChief> Propietary! EVILZ - unethical, not evil | Dec 07 05:23 |
| ViperChief | Hey, evil is y'alls word not mine. | Dec 07 05:23 |
| ViperChief | And, really, it's not unethical or evil. | Dec 07 05:23 |
| x33b | Not feeding the hungry, unethical, and evil :P | Dec 07 05:23 |
| EDavidBurg | ViperChief: you know what's unethical? using the word "y'all" :| | Dec 07 05:24 |
| Delphiki | gates + monsanto = not feeding the hungry | Dec 07 05:24 |
| ViperChief | x33b: Wait, Bill Gates is feeding the hungry...but he's evil. I'm confused! | Dec 07 05:24 |
| x33b | ViperChief: Charity means nothing! | Dec 07 05:24 |
| ViperChief | EDavidBurg: California...the entire state....is unethical and evil | Dec 07 05:24 |
| ViperChief | Not when your source is closed! | Dec 07 05:24 |
| ViperChief | Seriously, do you guys listen to yourselves? | Dec 07 05:24 |
| ViperChief | Because someone who took the time and effort to write a program wants to do what HE wants with HIS program, he's unethical> | Dec 07 05:25 |
| ViperChief | *? | Dec 07 05:25 |
| x33b | My source is whatever my employer tells me it is. | Dec 07 05:25 |
| x33b | bills need to be paid, kids need to eat, wife wants expensive shit for x-mas | Dec 07 05:25 |
| ViperChief | I like open source. I favor open source, but I also have my head screwed on straight. Just because a program is closed source does not mean that the program, or the programmer(s), is unethical. | Dec 07 05:26 |
| x33b | if i'm lucky, my dog will eat the neighbors cat | Dec 07 05:26 |
| ViperChief | There are much bigger problems in the world, including truly unethical things. | Dec 07 05:26 |
| x33b | in the end, free software or non free software gets me no where | Dec 07 05:26 |
| Delphiki | his program shouldnt take away control of MY computer | Dec 07 05:27 |
| Delphiki | I want to know what MY computer does | Dec 07 05:27 |
| ViperChief | Why not, instead of demonizing others, encourage the FSF to promote the benefits of FOSS. | Dec 07 05:27 |
| ViperChief | Then don't use that software, but don't sit there and claim their unethical or claim that their users are stupid. | Dec 07 05:27 |
| x33b | users are stupid, but that's regardless of OS | Dec 07 05:27 |
| ViperChief | Delphiki: Have you read through every line of every program installed on your computer? | Dec 07 05:28 |
| Delphiki | the demographic of windows users are people who are not technically savvy = what do you want to call them? | Dec 07 05:28 |
| x33b | yo can say the same for Mac | Dec 07 05:28 |
| Delphiki | yes | Dec 07 05:28 |
| ViperChief | No, the demographic of windows users is 95% of the market, which contains a wide variety of people. | Dec 07 05:28 |
| x33b | Mac is built on the whole fact that it's easier then windows | Dec 07 05:28 |
| ViperChief | So, the Nobel winning phycist who uses Windows is stupid? | Dec 07 05:28 |
| x33b | in reality they are both pretty easy to use :P | Dec 07 05:29 |
| ViperChief | The Harvard and MIT graduates who graduate magna cum laude are stupid? | Dec 07 05:29 |
| EDavidBurg | I use a Mac; I guess I'm an idiot. | Dec 07 05:29 |
| *EDavidBurg goes back to his corner | Dec 07 05:29 | |
| x33b | ViperChief: MIT is for chumps! | Dec 07 05:29 |
| Delphiki | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone | Dec 07 05:29 |
| Delphiki | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant | Dec 07 05:29 |
| ViperChief | But, the idiots like dragos on UF is smart, because he uses Linux. That's right, folks. You heard it hear first: dragos is smarter than a Harvard graduate | Dec 07 05:29 |
| x33b | WTF, can't people just let maddox die already? | Dec 07 05:30 |
| x33b | fucking christ almighty, maddox is fucking gay | Dec 07 05:30 |
| Delphiki | stupid is the person who lets themselves get scammed over and over again by a criminal corporation | Dec 07 05:30 |
| ViperChief | I see a major flaw in your reasoning there. | Dec 07 05:30 |
| ViperChief | Well, you should stop buying gas. Beause, you're being scammed by criminals, also. | Dec 07 05:30 |
| Delphiki | there are no alternatives to gas yet | Dec 07 05:31 |
| ViperChief | Also, the banks. From what I hear, they're doing pretty bad crap. | Dec 07 05:31 |
| Delphiki | once there is, ill be first in line | Dec 07 05:31 |
| x33b | Microsoft has never stolen from me, scammed me, or done anything illegal in my country. | Dec 07 05:31 |
| ViperChief | Yes there is. | Dec 07 05:31 |
| ViperChief | Buy a bike or walk. | Dec 07 05:31 |
| Delphiki | electric cars are actually a better option | Dec 07 05:31 |
| ViperChief | I feel that it's pretty stupid to lump 95% of the world into one group, call them all stupid then say that you're smarter than all of them. | Dec 07 05:31 |
| x33b | my windows machine has done everything i wanted it to do and did nothing i didn't expect | Dec 07 05:31 |
| x33b | so how was i scammed? | Dec 07 05:32 |
| Delphiki | the unthinking majority might be close to 95% of the worlds population | Dec 07 05:32 |
| Delphiki | sheeple MANY people call them | Dec 07 05:32 |
| ViperChief | I'll make sure to let the world's top scientists know that their all stupid because some dumbass said so. | Dec 07 05:32 |
| x33b | guess what, you're one of them | Dec 07 05:32 |
| EDavidBurg | I'm pretty sure using the term "sheeple" automatically loses an argument for you. | Dec 07 05:33 |
| ViperChief | Seriously. Y'all really need to drop the religiousness. | Dec 07 05:33 |
| Delphiki | the worlds top scientists dont even make up 1% of the population | Dec 07 05:33 |
| EDavidBurg | it's like godwin or something | Dec 07 05:33 |
| x33b | chances are you aren't an expert in medicine, and will generally believe what a doctor tells you, you aren't an expert physicists, so you'll believe them, if they show you proofs | Dec 07 05:33 |
| ViperChief | Um...okay? | Dec 07 05:33 |
| ViperChief | How about you guys talk about the benefits of FOSS instead of why ZOMG PROPRIETARY EVILZ. That might give you a little bit better chance. | Dec 07 05:34 |
| x33b | just about everyone is a sheeple. is that even a word? | Dec 07 05:34 |
| ViperChief | Or, better yet, make your crap work. Then, maybe, people will start using it. | Dec 07 05:34 |
| ViperChief | I've been using FOSS for a long time now. Interestingly, it hasn't gotten much better. | Dec 07 05:34 |
| Delphiki | not every person in this channel has the same purpose | Dec 07 05:34 |
| x33b | why hang out in a channel called boycott novell, if your purpose isn't boycotting novell? | Dec 07 05:35 |
| ViperChief | You guys are all here to boycott a technology made by a monopolist, right? | Dec 07 05:35 |
| Delphiki | my purpose is supporting people who are in effect, anti-ms | Dec 07 05:35 |
| ViperChief | In that case, I'm making a website that boycotts C. | Dec 07 05:35 |
| Delphiki | by boycotting novell it hurts ms, for me | Dec 07 05:36 |
| x33b | boycotting novell doesn't hurt MS | Dec 07 05:36 |
| ViperChief | Really? | Dec 07 05:36 |
| ViperChief | Boycotting hurts MS? | Dec 07 05:36 |
| Delphiki | they are allies | Dec 07 05:36 |
| ViperChief | Hold on, let me go look at Microsoft's financial to see how bad y'all have hurt them. | Dec 07 05:36 |
| x33b | All the money MS made off of Novell was in business contracts. You can boycott it all you want, but corporations don't give a crap | Dec 07 05:36 |
| Delphiki | MS has bought and paid for SUSE licenses, if nobody wants novell thats money wasted - i love seeing ms lose money | Dec 07 05:37 |
| x33b | they are still getting support for the product they want | Dec 07 05:37 |
| ViperChief | No, they still have billions | Dec 07 05:37 |
| ViperChief | Um, you do know that MS sold ALL the licenses, right? | Dec 07 05:37 |
| Delphiki | they still have plenty | Dec 07 05:37 |
| x33b | I can't think of any major company that wouldn't either run SUSE Enterprise or RHEL if they were going to run Linux at all | Dec 07 05:37 |
| ViperChief | That's because they went and bought more licenses because of how well they sold. | Dec 07 05:37 |
| Delphiki | RHEL if they are smart | Dec 07 05:37 |
| ViperChief | Mono is the only chance Linux has right now. | Dec 07 05:38 |
| Delphiki | not at all | Dec 07 05:38 |
| ViperChief | Yeah, really. | Dec 07 05:38 |
| ViperChief | Linux devs sure as hell aren't doing it on their own. | Dec 07 05:38 |
| x33b | Suse Enterprise if their smart and use edirectory to administrate their users | Dec 07 05:38 |
| ViperChief | Which pisses me off, becuase I had high hopes for Linux. | Dec 07 05:38 |
| Delphiki | mono isn't going anywhere | Dec 07 05:38 |
| ViperChief | So, Mono bringing cross-compatability for C# and VB programs is the big shot that Linux has. | Dec 07 05:39 |
| x33b | edirectory makes my life easier | Dec 07 05:39 |
| Delphiki | nobody outside of miguel's team of fanboys use it | Dec 07 05:39 |
| x33b | Ubuntu seems to use it | Dec 07 05:39 |
| Delphiki | C# and VB need to stay on windows and suck there | Dec 07 05:39 |
| ViperChief | lol | Dec 07 05:39 |
| Delphiki | the people who got it into ubuntu are included in miguel's team of fanboys | Dec 07 05:40 |
| x33b | Ubuntu seems to be wanting to add even more mono apps to their distro. They have more users then god, so I believe more people use mono then you think | Dec 07 05:40 |
| ViperChief | Look, if you get a hard-on for writing crap in an ancient, out dated, language, go for it. | Dec 07 05:40 |
| ViperChief | Most people want to be productive. | Dec 07 05:40 |
| x33b | C++ is the devil | Dec 07 05:40 |
| Delphiki | C++/Qt is superior | Dec 07 05:40 |
| ViperChief | C# is an outstanding language. | Dec 07 05:40 |
| Delphiki | I would rather use go than c# | Dec 07 05:40 |
| x33b | C++ is horrible, i know, I've programmed in it for 10 years. i | Dec 07 05:40 |
| Delphiki | there are many superior alternatives to c# or vb | Dec 07 05:41 |
| x33b | like? | Dec 07 05:41 |
| ViperChief | Not really | Dec 07 05:41 |
| Delphiki | java | Dec 07 05:41 |
| ViperChief | lol Java is trash | Dec 07 05:41 |
| x33b | java? java is crap and you know it | Dec 07 05:41 |
| Delphiki | go | Dec 07 05:41 |
| ViperChief | go is trash | Dec 07 05:41 |
| x33b | go is horrible | Dec 07 05:41 |
| Delphiki | C++/Qt | Dec 07 05:41 |
| EDavidBurg | Python was made by someone named Guido Van Rossum. There are only two kinds of people in this world I just can't stand: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch. | Dec 07 05:41 |
| x33b | do you code at all? | Dec 07 05:41 |
| ViperChief | C++ is outdated. | Dec 07 05:42 |
| ViperChief | Not as outdated as C, but, other than hardware and other low-level things, worthless. | Dec 07 05:42 |
| x33b | ViperChief: I know, I was all about using it in the early nineties | Dec 07 05:42 |
| Delphiki | C++/Qt is far superior | Dec 07 05:42 |
| ViperChief | Python and C# are the future. | Dec 07 05:42 |
| x33b | Python is pretty good | Dec 07 05:42 |
| Delphiki | and you guys wonder where the bloat comes from | Dec 07 05:43 |
| Delphiki | lol | Dec 07 05:43 |
| x33b | actually the future most likely will be psuedo code :P | Dec 07 05:43 |
| ViperChief | I like Python. I haven't done much with is, but once thie C++ crap class is over, I'll play with it more. | Dec 07 05:43 |
| ViperChief | Um. C# and Python aren't bloated. | Dec 07 05:44 |
| Delphiki | no they are not | Dec 07 05:45 |
| ViperChief | Hell, you said Java. The most bloated piece of crap to ever touch a computer | Dec 07 05:45 |
| Delphiki | managed code can lead to programs that use more resources than needed | Dec 07 05:45 |
| x33b | Delphiki: you just said they were bloated, and now your saying they aren't. Which is it? | Dec 07 05:45 |
| Delphiki | im not disagreeing with java being bloated | Dec 07 05:45 |
| x33b | yes or no? Or do you back track? | Dec 07 05:46 |
| ViperChief | lolcontradictory | Dec 07 05:46 |
| Delphiki | i only said java was more superior over c# | Dec 07 05:46 |
| x33b | Java needs to go and die in a fire | Dec 07 05:46 |
| ViperChief | And it's really not. | Dec 07 05:46 |
| ViperChief | I've programmed in both. Java was a mistake and is much more bloated than C#. | Dec 07 05:46 |
| Delphiki | to anyone outside of ms, it is superior | Dec 07 05:46 |
| x33b | no, not it's not | Dec 07 05:46 |
| x33b | Java always runs like crap | Dec 07 05:46 |
| *ViperChief checks pay stub | Dec 07 05:46 | |
| ViperChief | I'm outside of MS. It is not superior. | Dec 07 05:46 |
| EDavidBurg | ViperChief: everyone knows m$ owns the US military | Dec 07 05:47 |
| ViperChief | x33b: I think I know who we're dealing with. | Dec 07 05:47 |
| x33b | ViperChief: Were dealing with my lil brother? | Dec 07 05:47 |
| ViperChief | 19 year old college student who's has one Java class. | Dec 07 05:47 |
| ViperChief | so ZOMG Java rules. | Dec 07 05:47 |
| Delphiki | I only said java is better than c# | Dec 07 05:47 |
| cubezzz | there are other programmers who use Java a lot | Dec 07 05:47 |
| Delphiki | both suck, but java sucks LESS | Dec 07 05:47 |
| ViperChief | Have you ever programmed in C#? | Dec 07 05:47 |
| cubezzz | use whatever the job requires | Dec 07 05:48 |
| Delphiki | no, then i would be a hypocrite | Dec 07 05:48 |
| x33b | I would say java is the worst language I ever wrote code in. | Dec 07 05:48 |
| ViperChief | cubezzz: The only place I can see Java being the right tool is if you want it to run across all platforms easily. | Dec 07 05:48 |
| EDavidBurg | as opposed to just saying something sucks without ever having used it? | Dec 07 05:48 |
| ViperChief | Delphiki: So, how can you make an accurate assessment if you've never used it? | Dec 07 05:49 |
| EDavidBurg | i guess that's not being a hypocrite, but it doesn't exactly make you an expert in the field | Dec 07 05:49 |
| Delphiki | anything out of ms regardless of tech specs: complete and utter crap | Dec 07 05:49 |
| cubezzz | I've used both Microsoft and Linux tools | Dec 07 05:49 |
| EDavidBurg | how open minded of you | Dec 07 05:49 |
| x33b | that's just an ignorant statement. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. | Dec 07 05:49 |
| cubezzz | and Unix/Xenix in the old days | Dec 07 05:49 |
| ViperChief | EDavidBurg: Very open minded. These guys are all about open minds | Dec 07 05:49 |
| Delphiki | Don't assume we all think the same like you guys | Dec 07 05:50 |
| EDavidBurg | and yet when someone says "Anything open source is stupid", it's ignorant and why don't they experience the power of FOSS, etc? | Dec 07 05:50 |
| Delphiki | we don't have msft sponsored meetings on how to troll | Dec 07 05:50 |
| x33b | Unix in the old days? You make me feel old and out dated. since unix is still used | Dec 07 05:50 |
| ViperChief | Delphiki: There are MSFT sponsered meetings? | Dec 07 05:50 |
| cubezzz | x33b, yes it's still in use | Dec 07 05:50 |
| ViperChief | Weird. I thought they had more important things to deal with then caring what 1% of the computer market thought about them. | Dec 07 05:50 |
| x33b | cubezzz: stop making me feel older then i am =/ | Dec 07 05:51 |
| EDavidBurg | Step one: Point out that he's contradicted himself. Step two: sit back and enjoy the ad hominem attacks | Dec 07 05:51 |
| cubezzz | I was using Unix System V 20 years ago | Dec 07 05:51 |
| Delphiki | contradicted? how so | Dec 07 05:51 |
| cubezzz | that is the "old days" to me | Dec 07 05:51 |
| x33b | ok, your like me =p | Dec 07 05:51 |
| ViperChief | Okay. Well, this has been fun, but the wife is bugging me to go to McDs (yes, another evil company) and then I have site maintenance to do. | Dec 07 05:51 |
| x33b | chicken nuggets! | Dec 07 05:52 |
| ViperChief | Y'all have fun and tell rms' beard I said hi and enjoy his toe cheese | Dec 07 05:52 |
| x33b | get chicken nuggets!!!! | Dec 07 05:52 |
| EDavidBurg | If I said "That's open source? It probably looks terrible and has a bunch of bugs" you would call me close minded | Dec 07 05:52 |
| Delphiki | keep supporting unethical behavior | Dec 07 05:52 |
| ViperChief | x33b: I plan too | Dec 07 05:52 |
| x33b | get me a mcflurry! | Dec 07 05:52 |
| EDavidBurg | But saying, categorically, anything that comes out of MS is trash, that's fine | Dec 07 05:52 |
| ViperChief | Delphiki: Tell you what. I'll keep using what works. When Linux and FreeBSD can finally do everything I need it to, then I'll use it full-time. | Dec 07 05:53 |
| cubezzz | well, I see we are having the usual philosophical discussions | Dec 07 05:53 |
| x33b | EDavidBurg: it's an opinion, so no matter how ignorant it is, he has every right to it | Dec 07 05:53 |
| ViperChief | Until then, FreeBSD rocks for a server and Linux is okay for a hobby. | Dec 07 05:53 |
| Delphiki | EDavidBurg - if you said that I would say you're wrong, not that you're close minded | Dec 07 05:53 |
| ViperChief | cubezzz: I'm sorry. I try. I really do. Many of your members in here don't make it easy. | Dec 07 05:53 |
| x33b | I'm fucking old =/ | Dec 07 05:53 |
| ViperChief | I ask a legit question, and I get called a shill. | Dec 07 05:53 |
| x33b | i need to go buy a corvette | Dec 07 05:53 |
| cubezzz | what is your question? | Dec 07 05:53 |
| ViperChief | I asked why there's so much religous zealotism in FOSS. | Dec 07 05:54 |
| x33b | i haven't had my midlife crisis yet, maybe i should start.... | Dec 07 05:54 |
| ViperChief | Why is it all turned into a religion? And why is it that those who choose to do what they want with their software are wrong. | Dec 07 05:54 |
| ViperChief | But, now, I'm out of time. My wife is going to yell at me if I don't go nao. | Dec 07 05:54 |
| Delphiki | zealotism, or the real English word zealotry ? | Dec 07 05:54 |
| cubezzz | ok, later then :) | Dec 07 05:54 |
| x33b | ViperChief: i want a mcflurry! | Dec 07 05:55 |
| ViperChief | Enjoy, gentleman. If y'all want to have a real discussion, I'm always up for one. I only get hostile/trollish when that's what I'm given. | Dec 07 05:55 |
| EDavidBurg | ViperChief: you is trollin! | Dec 07 05:55 |
| ViperChief | If you come with me with a serious discussion, I will sit for hours doing it civilly. But, you reap what you sow. | Dec 07 05:55 |
| ViperChief | I love discussing FOSS and computers in general. Come have a serious discussion with us and you'll see that. | Dec 07 05:56 |
| x33b | That's more then you would get with me, i'll just toss racial slurs and be done with it :P | Dec 07 05:56 |
| cubezzz | I try to be civil, I've used Microsoft in the past, now I use mostly FOSS | Dec 07 05:56 |
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| cubezzz | I've used icc | Dec 07 05:56 |
| cubezzz | yeah ok | Dec 07 05:56 |
| Delphiki | I've used internet explorer, thats enough to hate them for life. | Dec 07 05:56 |
| cubezzz | I could make some snarky remarks about Ballmer or Gates too | Dec 07 05:57 |
| cubezzz | but I managed not to | Dec 07 05:57 |
| cubezzz | I guess boycottnovell is a bit provocative | Dec 07 05:58 |
| Delphiki | those guys are from linsux | Dec 07 05:58 |
| cubezzz | most of the world is using C and Java in that order | Dec 07 05:58 |
| *cubezzz shrugs | Dec 07 05:59 | |
| cubezzz | it's a free internet | Dec 07 05:59 |
| Delphiki | yes | Dec 07 05:59 |
| cubezzz | people can say whatever they want | Dec 07 05:59 |
| Delphiki | oh yes I agree | Dec 07 05:59 |
| cubezzz | personally I'd rather not give money to Microsoft, that doesn't sound unreasonable does it? | Dec 07 06:00 |
| Delphiki | they have the right to say whatever they want, and so do I | Dec 07 06:00 |
| x33b | cubezzz: no that doesn't sound unreasonable at all | Dec 07 06:00 |
| cubezzz | I've used Amiga, BeOS... tons of other OSes | Dec 07 06:01 |
| cubezzz | but Amiga is gone and BeOS is marginalized big time | Dec 07 06:02 |
| cubezzz | I liked CMS in the 80's too | Dec 07 06:02 |
| cubezzz | you can't just use one language for every job | Dec 07 06:03 |
| cubezzz | sometimes I just write a bash script | Dec 07 06:03 |
| EDavidBurg | everything should be written in asm | Dec 07 06:04 |
| x33b | cubezzz: for some reason, people seem to think you can just code in the language you want, and it doesn't need to suit the task at hand | Dec 07 06:05 |
| cubezzz | no, you would lose all portability if you did that | Dec 07 06:05 |
| cubezzz | Unix was rewritten in C for a good reason | Dec 07 06:05 |
| cubezzz | porting stuff can save a lot of time | Dec 07 06:06 |
| cubezzz | going from x86 to ARM for example | Dec 07 06:06 |
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| Delphiki | I wish I could kick mutex | Dec 07 07:30 |
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| mrruckspin | yes, you still have one or two real people who actually join the channel, you might as well kick them, or just shut the channel down, that way you dont have to talk to anyone who has different idea's to yourself. that would be great wouldnt it !!.. or just make it a closed channel and everyone can just agree with each other, that should be fun too. :) | Dec 07 07:36 |
| Delphiki | seriously, all you do 24/7 is nymshift and try to get into the channel | Dec 07 07:37 |
| Delphiki | get a life | Dec 07 07:37 |
| mrruckspin | and what do you do ?? | Dec 07 07:37 |
| mrruckspin | and it's APT-GET a LIFE | Dec 07 07:37 |
| Delphiki | no | Dec 07 07:37 |
| Delphiki | its YUM INSTALL LIFE | Dec 07 07:37 |
| Delphiki | fuck ubuntu | Dec 07 07:37 |
| Delphiki | my irc client doesn't cost any money | Dec 07 07:41 |
| Delphiki | -mrruckspin- VERSION mIRC v6.35 Khaled Mardam-Bey | Dec 07 07:42 |
| mrruckspin | what's your point ? | Dec 07 07:43 |
| Delphiki | its just interesting | Dec 07 07:44 |
| mrruckspin | if you think so, fine :) BTW: my irc client did not cost me any money either, | Dec 07 07:44 |
| Delphiki | you're running a trial version? | Dec 07 07:44 |
| mrruckspin | it's amazing what interests you LOL | Dec 07 07:44 |
| Delphiki | yes it's quite amusing | Dec 07 07:45 |
| mrruckspin | ok | Dec 07 07:45 |
| Delphiki | I could understand if it had more features | Dec 07 07:48 |
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| mrruckspin | im sure you could write a book on what you dont understand :) | Dec 07 07:48 |
| Delphiki | not logically possible | Dec 07 07:49 |
| mrruckspin | for you,,, exactly | Dec 07 07:49 |
| Delphiki | i don't think you understand | Dec 07 07:51 |
| mrruckspin | understand what ? | Dec 07 07:51 |
| Delphiki | You can't write about about something you know nothing about. | Dec 07 07:52 |
| mrruckspin | thats right, i do understand that, then I would write volumes of books on what you do not understand. if you cant. | Dec 07 07:52 |
| Delphiki | you're willing to write volumes of books on what I don't understand? | Dec 07 07:53 |
| mrruckspin | no too big of a job, and well I just dont care :) | Dec 07 07:53 |
| Delphiki | not too big of a job means I know almost everything | Dec 07 07:54 |
| Delphiki | thanks | Dec 07 07:54 |
| mrruckspin | ok whatever, lol | Dec 07 07:54 |
| Delphiki | can you troll some other channel now? | Dec 07 07:54 |
| mrruckspin | you got nothing left ?? ok, | Dec 07 07:55 |
| Delphiki | lol if I were you I would be feeling embarrassed, you just got served | Dec 07 07:56 |
| mrruckspin | ok, well im glad you are not me then (phew dodged a bullet there).. !! | Dec 07 07:57 |
| Delphiki | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l-04AcK3Bk | Dec 07 07:58 |
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| cubezzz | finally got the dual boot thing working | Dec 07 08:36 |
| cubezzz | ok, one more test and I'm done | Dec 07 08:39 |
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| schestowitz | That's mutex | Dec 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Seems like the linsxxxxxxx troll club made a visit... | Dec 07 10:00 |
| MinceR | better ban them. | Dec 07 10:03 |
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| schestowitz | Yeah, well, he'll nymshift | Dec 07 10:25 |
| MinceR | the other linsux troll? | Dec 07 10:31 |
| MinceR | he had a cloak | Dec 07 10:31 |
| schestowitz | I think there was more than one | Dec 07 10:36 |
| schestowitz | Either way, they brought their scum here | Dec 07 10:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Xbox360 Still in the Gutter as Innocent Customers Get Banned, #BBC Deal Falls Through http://ur1.ca/h9jb | Dec 07 10:43 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft and #AARP Join Hands to Spread Propaganda, Other New #PR Stunts http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/07/microsoft-and-aarp-pr/ | Dec 07 11:30 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Seizes Control of #Grameen and Uses it to Dump Against Free/Libre Software http://ur1.ca/h9ob | Dec 07 12:16 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #VMware wants cell phone virtualization, makes no sense http://ur1.ca/h9uv | Dec 07 12:46 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Makes Even the #MPAA / #RIAA Look Good by Starting a War on Customers http://ur1.ca/h9vr | Dec 07 12:55 | |
| oiaohm | god MS Office 2010 is not even out yet and they are talking about 2015 | Dec 07 12:57 |
| MinceR | they already know it's going to flop | Dec 07 12:57 |
| MinceR | just like vista7 | Dec 07 12:57 |
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| phIRCe-local | god MS Office 2010 is not even out yet and they are talking about 2015 | Dec 07 12:57 |
| phIRCe-local | they already know it's going to flop | Dec 07 12:57 |
| phIRCe-local | just like vista7 | Dec 07 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Also notice that is a 5 year gap. | Dec 07 12:57 |
| MinceR | lol, the bot agrees with me | Dec 07 12:58 |
| oiaohm | Ie Office 95 97 2000 2002 2003 2007(late was due in 2006) 2010. Its going to be the largest gap ever been versions of MS Office. | Dec 07 12:59 |
| MinceR | maybe there won't be any more m$ office releases | Dec 07 13:00 |
| oiaohm | Ok I left out two versions | Dec 07 13:01 |
| oiaohm | The full list of MS Office release years 1900 1991 1992 1993 1995 1997 2000 2002 2003 2007(late was due in 2006) 2010. Its going to be the largest gap ever been versions of MS Office. | Dec 07 13:02 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmm... apache doesn't serve on BN | Dec 07 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a connectivity issue... | Dec 07 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm... http://copilotco.com/ works | Dec 07 13:06 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmmmm... probably connectivity... it's back now | Dec 07 13:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Google Maps sucks | Dec 07 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's telling me to go 8 miles south on state road 5 then get on the interstate and go north | Dec 07 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | when I could take state road 24 northeast and catch the interstate near Fort Wayne | Dec 07 15:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Novell’s Zonker Slammed for Lying About #Microsoft / #Novell Deal http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/07/brockmeier-lies/ | Dec 07 15:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | so essentially Google adds 8 miles (nearly 10% of the trip) to the distance I would need to travel | Dec 07 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | just for that | Dec 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | JmNwPTQxLjA1Mjk2MzEzNzYyNjYzNH4tODUuMzI1OTI4OTI2NDY3OSZsdmw9MTAmc3R5PXImcnRwPXBvcy40MC44ODI4MzU5ODQyMzAwNF8tODUuNDk0MjM4ODgzMjU2OTFfSHVudGluZ3RvbiUyQyUyMElOX19fZV9 | Dec 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | oops | Dec 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://bit.ly/6odSk2 | Dec 07 16:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bing Maps .::. Size~: 111.7 KB | Dec 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://bit.ly/613eF1 | Dec 07 16:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Huntington, IN to Huntertown, IN - Google Maps .::. Size~: 101.81 KB | Dec 07 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | why is my trip 97.7 miles with Google and 34.5 miles with Bing? | Dec 07 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Google is taking me all across hell's half acre and bing is not | Dec 07 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | Google has picked enough bad directions to triple my drive distance | Dec 07 16:04 |
| *zer0c00l is now known as zer0c00l|Away | Dec 07 16:06 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Why are Google's directions so bad? | Dec 07 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | it takes you all over the state for what should be a 40 minute drive | Dec 07 16:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: don't know | Dec 07 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I don't use it | Dec 07 16:14 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC is promoting bong | Dec 07 16:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/07/google-ceo-joins-twitter | Dec 07 16:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google CEO Joins Twitter | WebProNews .::. Size~: 31.2 KB | Dec 07 16:15 |
| schestowitz | stupid move | Dec 07 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | well, the first thing Fallout 3 does is crash cause of a Games for Windows Live bug | Dec 07 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | and then once I fixed that, SecuROM complains | Dec 07 16:20 |
| _goblin | hello all | Dec 07 16:26 |
| _goblin | fallout 3.... | Dec 07 16:26 |
| _goblin | is that about a year old? | Dec 07 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | wait for the game of the year edition | Dec 07 16:27 |
| _goblin | I got it for xmas last year as a present.......its still in its celophane wrapping | Dec 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | after all the idiots have paid $100 for all the add ons | Dec 07 16:27 |
| _goblin | somewhere | Dec 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | you get them all for $50 | Dec 07 16:27 |
| _goblin | it was for the 360..... | Dec 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | I don't buy games that make you buy the rest later | Dec 07 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's stupid | Dec 07 16:28 |
| _goblin | and "unfortunately" my 360 had a nasty accident.... | Dec 07 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | send it in | Dec 07 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | they'll swap it out if you tell them it was 3 red rings and E71 and E74 errors | Dec 07 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't matter why it broke | Dec 07 16:28 |
| _goblin | I can't, I accidently gave it away to my little cousin who has now broken it.... | Dec 07 16:28 |
| _goblin | didn't want it. | Dec 07 16:28 |
| MinceR | understandable | Dec 07 16:29 |
| _goblin | I think its binned... | Dec 07 16:29 |
| _goblin | maybe I could return the bin and MS will give me a 360 | Dec 07 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Well, it has the Microsoft logo, so... | Dec 07 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's easy to get used games on ebay for quite a lot cheaper | Dec 07 16:29 |
| _goblin | I must admit theres a similarity between the bin and the 360..I don't think many people would notice. | Dec 07 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Depends on the bin | Dec 07 16:30 |
| _goblin | I have a ps3 and a WII (only the WII is really used now by the kids) | Dec 07 16:30 |
| schestowitz | You could empty the insides of the 360 and make a rubbish can out of it | Dec 07 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Modern decor | Dec 07 16:30 |
| _goblin | I'd bin both of those if I could.... | Dec 07 16:30 |
| _goblin | and in respect of the bin....I think in my nieghbourhood, the MS logo on anything would look a little tacky. | Dec 07 16:31 |
| _goblin | even on a bin.....in anycase its probably breaching the EULA to use the 360 as a bin... | Dec 07 16:31 |
| MinceR | i think an imac would be a better trashcan | Dec 07 16:31 |
| _goblin | if you want to use it as a bin I think you have to pay extra......Xbox 360 - Refuse edition. | Dec 07 16:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.lockergnome.com/theoracle/2009/12/04/so-much-for-the-security-of-bitlocker/ | Dec 07 16:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: So Much for the Security of BitLocker ~ Revelations From An Unwashed Brain .::. Size~: 75.66 KB | Dec 07 16:32 |
| _goblin | and I think its only valid for one type of rubbish.....if you want to use it for recycling too theres an extra payment. | Dec 07 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Perlow flirts with Microsoft... http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11740 | Dec 07 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Jack mentions NC and 'forgets' to mentioned that Microsoft hired Gartner to attack it. http://www.smh.com.au/business/cloud-comes-with-a-chrome-lining-20091207-kfgn.html | Dec 07 16:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Cloud comes with a Chrome lining .::. Size~: 97.2 KB | Dec 07 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thinkdigit.com/Features/Chrome-OS-goes-64bit-adds-a-hypervisor_3797.html | Dec 07 17:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Chrome OS goes 64bit; adds a hypervisor .::. Size~: 43.93 KB | Dec 07 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Is Intel stomping on Google? http://www.euroinvestor.co.uk/news/story.aspx?id=10774888&bw=20091207005057 | Dec 07 17:25 |
| schestowitz | Re: HSBC exposed sensitive bankruptcy data | Dec 07 17:30 |
| schestowitz | > 'HSBC Bank says a bug in its imaging software inadvertently exposed sensitive data about some of its customers going through bankruptcy proceedings. | Dec 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | > In notification letters made public Thursday, the bank said it had redacted sensitive information in Chapter 13 bankruptcy proof-of-claim forms that were filed electronically, but that the information turned out to be viewable "as a result of the deficiency in the software used to save imaged documents."' | Dec 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.itworld.com/security/88147/hsbc-exposed-sensitive-bankruptcy-data | Dec 07 17:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: HSBC exposed sensitive bankruptcy data | ITworld .::. Size~: 91.36 KB | Dec 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | > Any guesses as to what platform .. I guess the app created an XML with black bands in front of the text .. :) | Dec 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | ha.... :-) | Dec 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw wrote about this some years ago. | Dec 07 17:31 |
| MinceR | whoa... a wholly-owned subsidiary of Intel builds on ARM produced by TI? | Dec 07 17:33 |
| MinceR | while Intel keeps bashing ARM? | Dec 07 17:33 |
| MinceR | but how is that stomping on google? | Dec 07 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Moblin maybe...? | Dec 07 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Re that redaction fluke, It's like those Web devs who think that making a page design is like drawing on paper. | Dec 07 17:35 |
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| MinceR | it's like the usian government | Dec 07 17:37 |
| MinceR | they did the same in PDFs, didn't they? | Dec 07 17:37 |
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| schestowitz | Hoooooooooly ****. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/yahoo-spy-prices | Dec 07 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yahoo Issues Takedown Notice for Spying Price List | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 87.35 KB | Dec 07 17:37 |
| Delphiki | lol mutex is a nub | Dec 07 17:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7637/ | Dec 07 17:41 |
| schestowitz | Delphiki: he is likely to be back tonight | Dec 07 17:42 |
| Delphiki | yeah I kind of pwned him | Dec 07 17:43 |
| MinceR | i think it's more productive to kickban him | Dec 07 17:45 |
| MinceR | he isn't worth the time nor the effort. | Dec 07 17:45 |
| MinceR | nor the attention. | Dec 07 17:45 |
| Delphiki | nobody was around and I was bored | Dec 07 17:45 |
| MinceR | sounds like he was useful to you, then | Dec 07 17:47 |
| Delphiki | lol | Dec 07 17:47 |
| MinceR | must be a rare occurrence when he's useful to anyone | Dec 07 17:47 |
| Delphiki | he complimented me trying to insult me | Dec 07 17:47 |
| MinceR | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/07/105253/Canada-Supreme-Court-Broadens-Internet-Luring-Offense?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 | Dec 07 17:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Canada Supreme Court Broadens Internet "Luring" Offense .::. Size~: 164 KB | Dec 07 17:47 |
| Delphiki | <Delphiki> you're willing to write volumes of books on what I don't understand? | Dec 07 17:47 |
| Delphiki | <mrruckspin> no too big of a job, and well I just dont care :) | Dec 07 17:47 |
| MinceR | basically now it's illegal for adults in canada to chat on the internet | Dec 07 17:49 |
| Delphiki | LOL | Dec 07 17:50 |
| Delphiki | that law is going to disappear | Dec 07 17:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td_lSMl-9Pc | Dec 07 17:52 |
| Delphiki | basicly you'll also need a complaint from a child or their parents for the law to be used anyways | Dec 07 17:53 |
| Delphiki | however, child safety is often used as an excuse to take away freedoms | Dec 07 17:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: See the Drew case | Dec 07 17:58 |
| schestowitz | !google Drew myspace idiocy | Dec 07 17:58 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Drew Marshall (Drew Marshall) | MySpace - myspace.com/tacomapreacher | http://www.myspace.com/tacomapreacher | Dec 07 17:59 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - DR. DREW-GOOD, YES BUT ETHICAL? /LAW FIRM REPRESENTING LAS ENC ... | http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dblog.view%26friendId%3D370392338%26blogId%3D442176275 | Dec 07 17:59 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - The Volokh Conspiracy - Opening Arguments in <i>United States v ... | http://volokh.com/posts/1227142569.shtml | Dec 07 17:59 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Meyerson on Zell: The Idiocy of Equating Media Reinvention to ... | http://techliberation.com/2008/06/11/meyerson-on-zell-the-idiocy-of-equating-media-reinvention-to-terrorism/ | Dec 07 17:59 |
| schestowitz | OK, not a good query.... | Dec 07 17:59 |
| Delphiki | lol | Dec 07 18:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00005.html | Dec 07 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Fedora 13 rhymes with retard now | Dec 07 18:02 |
| Delphiki | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Con-Kolivas-Introduces-New-BFS-Scheduler | Dec 07 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Still, better be a Goddard than a "Wintard" | Dec 07 18:03 |
| Delphiki | heh | Dec 07 18:03 |
| Delphiki | I was hoping for Botany | Dec 07 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Delphiki: he looks like he ages 20 years in 2 years | Dec 07 18:03 |
| Delphiki | who | Dec 07 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Con | Dec 07 18:04 |
| schestowitz | He told me he would not do kernel development anymore | Dec 07 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Not /any/ kernel | Dec 07 18:04 |
| schestowitz | So he's like Beranger... | Dec 07 18:04 |
| schestowitz | "I'm leaving Linux" | Dec 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "Oh, I'm back from BSD..." | Dec 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "I'm leaving Linux" | Dec 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "I'm moving to XP" | Dec 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Back to Linux... | Dec 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "I'm moving to XP again" | Dec 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | "Linux is the suxxx!" | Dec 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz | And on it goes | Dec 07 18:05 |
| Delphiki | not exactly | Dec 07 18:05 |
| Delphiki | he just stopped working on newer kernels | Dec 07 18:06 |
| schestowitz | OK, but still... | Dec 07 18:06 |
| Delphiki | I read an interview, he stuck with 2.6.22 for a long time and wanted new features | Dec 07 18:06 |
| Delphiki | he didnt go back to windows or bsd and come back | Dec 07 18:06 |
| Delphiki | this time hes not even trying to get BFS into the kernel | Dec 07 18:06 |
| Delphiki | "On the other he wanted to point out that it was totally unsatisfactory to have a scheduler support 4096 processors but be incapable of successfully running a Flash video on an average system." | Dec 07 18:08 |
| Delphiki | lol | Dec 07 18:08 |
| Delphiki | xkcd | Dec 07 18:08 |
| schestowitz | From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | To: s@schestowitz.com | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Re: Kernel Development | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:21:50 +1000 | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | On Sunday 29 July 2007 12:46, Roy Schestowitz wrote: | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Con, | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > I truly hope that you will use your kernel skills and familiarity to | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > help other areas of kernel development. It was very sad to see you go. I | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > first read about your intents to leave about a month ago. I was relived | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > to see that you carried on. The APC article made the hearts of many | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > people sink. | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for your kind words. I have no plans involving any operating system | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | development of any kind at this time. | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | -- | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | -ck | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | But he's back. | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | When he quit Linux (the first time) he helped created a lot of FUD about it | Dec 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Not that he intended it.. | Dec 07 18:09 |
| Delphiki | he didnt quit linux, he just quit coding for it | Dec 07 18:11 |
| Delphiki | the FUD was about how bad it is trying to get stuff into the kernel | Dec 07 18:11 |
| Delphiki | he says that xkcd comic inspired him too | Dec 07 18:11 |
| Delphiki | I dont think hes a bad guy or anything. If hes back hopefully he stays because he does good work. | Dec 07 18:12 |
| schestowitz | http://teom.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/evading-the-microsoft-tax/ | Dec 07 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | Delphiki: no, not a bad guy at all | Dec 07 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Just saying he came back after he had left people with the impression that ck was over as a patchset | Dec 07 18:14 |
| Delphiki | he probably did mean to quit entirely and then that comic made him scratch an itch | Dec 07 18:15 |
| Delphiki | the name, BFS (Brain Fuck Scheduler) is also clever playfulness | Dec 07 18:15 |
| Delphiki | in the hacker spirit | Dec 07 18:15 |
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| Omar87_ | Hi all. | Dec 07 18:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/6-fun-sites-to-find-out-what-your-name-says-about-you/ | Dec 07 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87_: what's new? | Dec 07 18:33 |
| Omar87_ | schestowitz: hey? | Dec 07 18:34 |
| Omar87_ | With what? | Dec 07 18:34 |
| schestowitz | http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/2009/12/simply-explained-latency.html. | Dec 07 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87_: computers | Dec 07 18:36 |
| Omar87_ | schestowitz: umm.. nothing much so far. | Dec 07 18:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.lockergnome.com/theoracle/2009/12/05/the-project-of-linux-documentation/ | Dec 07 18:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Project of Linux Documentation ~ Revelations From An Unwashed Brain .::. Size~: 76.2 KB | Dec 07 18:39 |
| Omar87_ | schestowitz: I'm currently installing Phatch. Image patch processing program. | Dec 07 18:39 |
| *Guest11904 is now known as Balrog | Dec 07 18:51 | |
| Delphiki | the name thing is pretty accurate | Dec 07 18:51 |
| Delphiki | the numerology one | Dec 07 18:51 |
| Delphiki | they say if someone knows your true name they have power over you | Dec 07 18:52 |
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| ThistleWeb | evening all, I'd appreciate a lil help from the good peeps here | Dec 07 19:17 |
| ThistleWeb | can anyone point me to MS's eula part where it states if the eula is rejected the customer is entitled to a refund? | Dec 07 19:18 |
| ThistleWeb | I've had a look at MS's oen terms and conditions page, picked vista home basic as an example, thinking they're all the same, and cant find the clause | Dec 07 19:19 |
| ThistleWeb | hang on, I found it, it's cool | Dec 07 19:20 |
| Delphiki | its funny that asus offers $6 | Dec 07 19:22 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 07 19:22 |
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| Delphiki | hi | Dec 07 19:27 |
| Delphiki | tirania is named after a country run by a dictator in a spanish comic | Dec 07 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm... server's not serving again | Dec 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe connectivity.... | Dec 07 19:51 |
| Delphiki | Dec 07 19:52 | |
| Delphiki | Dec 07 19:53 | |
| Delphiki | google's diff thing, has been implemented into Fedora 12 (yum-presto) | Dec 07 19:53 |
| Delphiki | reducing the size required for updates | Dec 07 19:53 |
| Delphiki | it also goes by "delta rpms" too | Dec 07 19:53 |
| Delphiki | i dont know if they got it from google but they have the same idea. | Dec 07 19:54 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, tessier | Dec 07 19:55 |
| tessier | hmm | Dec 07 19:55 |
| schestowitz | This happened earlier too | Dec 07 19:55 |
| schestowitz | For like 5-10 minutes | Dec 07 19:55 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was maybe a connectivity thing, but I'm there via ssh | Dec 07 19:55 |
| tessier | I restarted apache. Back up now. Something got confused. | Dec 07 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Dec 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Thanks! | Dec 07 20:01 |
| tessier | You're welcome! | Dec 07 20:01 |
| schestowitz | I hope nott he DB got confused | Dec 07 20:01 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #CrunchPad is being released by Fusion Garage only and called the JooJoo.... its doomed. http://ur1.ca/ham7 | Dec 07 20:01 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier: Thanks a lot! it seems not to be happening again | Dec 07 20:07 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Elive in-place Upgrade < http://www.ghacks.net/2009/12/07/upgrading-elive-compiz-to-latest-elive/ > Looks good. | Dec 07 20:21 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] When you're boss tells you to work harder, tell him you need to reboot every 30 mins like other "enterprise ready" machines. It works for MS | Dec 07 20:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Named a Top Technology for This Year http://ur1.ca/haot | Dec 07 20:32 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Refund for Unwanted #Windows Received from #Amazon UK http://teom.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/evading-the-microsoft-tax/ | Dec 07 20:34 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Chrome Extensions Just Days Away http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2009/12/7/google-launch-chrome-extensions-within-days/ | Dec 07 20:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ChromeOS Adds 64-bit and VM Support http://ur1.ca/hap3 http://ur1.ca/hap4 | Dec 07 20:35 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Graphics Survey Results Analysed Further http://ur1.ca/hap5 http://ur1.ca/hap6 | Dec 07 20:36 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Deduplication May Comes to #Linux Filesystems http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10014577o-114626b,00.htm | Dec 07 20:37 | |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: enterprise is a big word... makes you think that Starship Enterprise runs WIndows Server..... | Dec 07 20:38 |
| schestowitz | All that Windows needs now is a good dock | Dec 07 20:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] RT @schestowitz: Refund for Unwanted #Windows Received from #Amazon UK http://is.gd/5fg4i | Dec 07 20:40 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I dunno, but klaatu from the badapples did a hilarious piece on that in one ep, about them being incapable of ssh etc | Dec 07 20:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Lists of #GNU #Linux Applications http://ur1.ca/hapr http://ur1.ca/haps http://ur1.ca/hapt | Dec 07 20:43 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Computer #Games on Their Way to #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/hapw http://ur1.ca/hapx | Dec 07 20:44 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] First Review of #KDE 4.4 (Beta), First-of-Their-Kind Features http://ur1.ca/haq0 http://ur1.ca/haq1 | Dec 07 20:46 | |
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| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: you heard of any stories about the windows tax from argos? | Dec 07 20:52 |
| schestowitz | No, just Amazon | Dec 07 20:54 |
| ThistleWeb | k | Dec 07 20:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 13 Gets a Name: #Goddard https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00005.html | Dec 07 20:55 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Schedule Outlined and #Ubuntu Syncing Likewise http://totalinux.org/2009/12/debian-squeeze-freeze-and-ubuntu-dev-syncing/ | Dec 07 20:57 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Simple Scan" in Next #Ununtu #GNU #Linux http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/12/ubuntu-1004-will-have-simple-scan.html | Dec 07 20:59 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Mint 8 Praised for Appearance (by Default) http://gnulinuxuser.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/linux-mint-8-helena/ | Dec 07 21:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenRisc Meets #Linux http://balau82.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/openrisc-simulator-runs-linux/ | Dec 07 21:06 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Palm 's #Linux Platform Gains #SDK http://ur1.ca/harf http://ur1.ca/harg | Dec 07 21:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nokia #N900 Reviewed in the UK, to Comes to SA http://ur1.ca/harj http://ur1.ca/harl | Dec 07 21:09 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android / #Linux Gets #ARM Boost, #Intel Support http://ur1.ca/haru http://ur1.ca/harv | Dec 07 21:10 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] damn the Computer Action Show guys are selling out BIG time with GoDaddy :-/ they get more desperate by the episode | Dec 07 21:12 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks Targeted by #Android and #ChromeOS Runs Well Too http://ur1.ca/harx http://ur1.ca/has0 | Dec 07 21:12 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeBSD 8.0 Received Good Review http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091207#feature | Dec 07 21:16 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Matriux #LiveCD is Released http://www.secuobs.com/revue/news/169153.shtml | Dec 07 21:17 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Yahoo Works with Spooks, Not Just Microsoft's 'Puppet' http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/yahoo-spy-prices | Dec 07 21:20 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] OK, so identifox if fucking annoying, with every new update it steals focus from a webform you're trying to type in. | Dec 07 21:25 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies and Phrama #Cartel Kill Poor People http://ur1.ca/hass | Dec 07 21:26 | |
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| ThistleWeb | I've just emailed argos for instructions on claiming back the windows tax, will see what happens from now | Dec 07 21:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #MAFIAA (Hollywood) Breaks the Law in #Germany , Bullies Lawyers http://techdirt.com/articles/20091204/0924437205.shtml | Dec 07 21:29 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: P2P Pre-Settlement Letters In Germany May Have Been Illegal; Lawyer Who Reveals This Threatened With Lawsuit | Techdirt .::. Size~: 34.44 KB | Dec 07 21:29 |
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| Delphiki | muse knows whats going on: http://www.songlyrics.com/muse/uprising-lyrics/ | Dec 07 21:36 |
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| Delphiki | on the same cd they have a song called MK Ultra | Dec 07 21:37 |
| Delphiki | and "United States of Eurasia" | Dec 07 21:38 |
| Delphiki | MK Ultra is a mind control program, that is fact | Dec 07 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Eurasia............ | Dec 07 21:39 |
| schestowitz | EuAsia.... | Dec 07 21:40 |
| schestowitz | "New Europe" -> "New Asia" | Dec 07 21:40 |
| schestowitz | Assuming Asia ever buys businesses on the other side of the Pacific.... | Dec 07 21:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1565044/apple-plugs-security-holes "This article is a wicked and pernicious LIE. MAC OS IS PERFECT. The author is a heretic and should be burnt at the stake for such profligate and perfidious blasphemy." | Dec 07 21:42 |
| Delphiki | Eurasia was in the book 1984 | Dec 07 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I kno. | Dec 07 21:44 |
| schestowitz | *know | Dec 07 21:44 |
| Delphiki | I noticed some bands know this stuff | Dec 07 21:44 |
| Delphiki | which is good, people are waking up | Dec 07 21:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More reactions to Google and Etherpad http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1565159/google-rethinks-etherpad | Dec 07 21:45 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/07/mod_ufo_office_shuts/ | Dec 07 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Paulson "Conflict of interest claims" | Dec 07 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itrunsonlinux.com/news/134-majority-of-new-htc-phones-will-run-google-android | Dec 07 22:00 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: your mate: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10409511-16.html?tag=mncol;title | Dec 07 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | In mobile, do logos or functionality matter most? | Dec 07 22:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Currently running IcarosLight 1.1.5 (LiveCD) v.good so far! Very impressed. #amiga #foss #linux #bsd | Dec 07 22:16 | |
| schestowitz | http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/12/07/the-december-browser-share-snapshot/ | Dec 07 22:29 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: nope, he's steve jobs' mate | Dec 07 22:36 |
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| schestowitz | http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/12/03/google-public-dns/ | Dec 07 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Troll: http://twitter.com/Jasonbartfast/statuses/6423774970 | Dec 07 22:48 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: he'd wish! | Dec 07 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Jobs seems introvert | Dec 07 22:48 |
| schestowitz | Still a typo in the headline: http://www.osor.eu/news/dk-majority-in-parliament-for-use-of-odf-and-ooxm-strict | Dec 07 22:52 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: DK: Majority in parliament for use of ODF and OOXM-strict — .::. Size~: 28.28 KB | Dec 07 22:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Why fear the cloud? Microsoft patches more Windows exploits. http://tinyurl.com/ybtghxo #microsoft #fail #chrome #windows #xp #vista | Dec 07 23:04 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Why fear the cloud? Microsoft patches more Windows exploits. « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 42.41 KB | Dec 07 23:04 |
| _goblin | still got my "Broken Digital Planet" article to release.... | Dec 07 23:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Ender2070 Nobody mentions him, its merely his childish behaviour...a simple python script is all thats needed to keep tabs on him... | Dec 07 23:11 | |
| _goblin | unfortunately im watching Survivor Series 09....its distracting.... | Dec 07 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Analogue planet | Dec 07 23:16 |
| schestowitz | MandyAA | Dec 07 23:16 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: you seem to have fan the lunatic/s in COLA. I saw your followups | Dec 07 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | /fan/fed/ | Dec 07 23:16 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: you heard the latest CAS? | Dec 07 23:19 |
| ThistleWeb | the rant about desktop linux dropping the ball a couple of years ago.....yet another assasination of RH | Dec 07 23:20 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091206/2329287228.shtml | Dec 07 23:21 |
| schestowitz | "Of course, by now, you can rest assured that Yahoo's document has been copied in all sorts of places, just by nature of Yahoo's attempt to hide it. It makes you wonder why the company even bothered in the first place." | Dec 07 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: latest? | Dec 07 23:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] lol, stresslinux, that's the LAST thing my lil old PC would want, I can almost hear it whisper "please don't do this to me, I'll be good" | Dec 07 23:23 | |
| ThistleWeb | yeah ep from last night I think | Dec 07 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Join the survey... poll rather. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/40861 | Dec 07 23:25 |
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| _goblin | schestowitz: Yep, It seems they are stalking me for a bit now... | Dec 07 23:25 |
| MinceR | http://www.hopka.org.ua/xlam/dropdatabase.jpg | Dec 07 23:25 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: youe presence pisses them off | Dec 07 23:25 |
| ThistleWeb | there's a segment about a couple of years ago, when vista bombed, and linux dropped the ball on making real inroads | Dec 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | It should be seen as a compliment, coming from trolls | Dec 07 23:25 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: it would be if they were not so slow. | Dec 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: what episode/ | Dec 07 23:26 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: a legal aid could put a better counter case together than them. | Dec 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: they distract you though | Dec 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Have discussion about the issues, not people | Dec 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | I just killfiled all the trolls | Dec 07 23:26 |
| ThistleWeb | ComputerActionShowS01E09 | Dec 07 23:26 |
| schestowitz | So I can focus on what matters, not on 'junk food' | Dec 07 23:26 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: you think....? check most of the replies....the two liners are copy and pasted from a text file of responses... | Dec 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: Action Show is not a Linux show | Dec 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz | They don't even use Linux | Dec 07 23:27 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/05/linux-sucks-fud/ http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/08/truth-about-linux-action-show/ | Dec 07 23:27 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: and I keep tabs on their blogs with a simple python script that checks numerous times a day and then alerts me if there is a new post. | Dec 07 23:27 |
| ThistleWeb | they do, but yeah they rebranded | Dec 07 23:27 |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: “Linux Action Show” Dudes Censor Comments They Disagree with, Then Lie About It and Ask People to Troll Us | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 113.66 KB | Dec 07 23:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B62OO20091207 | Dec 07 23:30 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: what bothers me was when they spoke 'on behalf' of Linux saying 'Linux sucks' | Dec 07 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Reminded me of Beranger... | Dec 07 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Like those self-shooting ambassadors that are not good ones to begin with... self-appointed | Dec 07 23:31 |
| ThistleWeb | here I thought they were just a couple of blokes with opinions | Dec 07 23:32 |
| schestowitz | But people referred to them as "Linux show", as in "linux shows sez Linux sux" | Dec 07 23:37 |
| schestowitz | That's not good | Dec 07 23:37 |
| schestowitz | It's like BN being called the Microsoft-Herald | Dec 07 23:38 |
| schestowitz | https://support.creativecommons.org/donate | Dec 07 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://my.fsf.org/associate/support_freedom | Dec 07 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. This sign blows shuncks [sic] http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/?p=1588 | Dec 07 23:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BLOGical Thoughts » Monday, 7 December, 2009 .::. Size~: 18.27 KB | Dec 07 23:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2009/12/taking-a-break-from-ubuntu.html | Dec 07 23:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/slfh5 - Recent Chromium bug filed. Gfx gliches appear when using the mousewheel to scroll. | Dec 07 23:52 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Recent Chromium bug filed. Gfx gliches appear when using the ... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.31 KB | Dec 07 23:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/slfh5 - Bug report 29640. I noticed this occurring a few days ago. Chromium build 4.0.266.0 - As you can see on the righ | Dec 07 23:56 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Recent Chromium bug filed. Gfx gliches appear when using the ... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 8.19 KB | Dec 07 23:56 |
| _goblin | Im good....filing bug reports, updating my blog, posting to the NG's and chatting on Wave.....is there no end to my talents? ;) | Dec 07 23:59 |
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