| _goblin | schestowitz: Saw the vid.... | Dec 09 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | /me watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYUIXCZe3vY&feature=channel | Dec 09 00:03 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: contractors would be cheaper and more relevant than a military solution....it goes back to the engineers......they can build you a bridge....and its great for 2nd Royal Tank Regiment... | Dec 09 00:05 |
| _goblin | but its no good for Riflemen or civvies. | Dec 09 00:05 |
| _goblin | Contracted work (I believe) has save the Government millions, not only because of bidding for contracts but because the troops on the ground are wholly unsuitable to build proper solutions for the public. | Dec 09 00:06 |
| _goblin | If the population wants a battle solution, then the engineers are your men and women.... | Dec 09 00:07 |
| _goblin | and at the end of the day, part of the mission is the restoration of their country and the building of an infastructure. | Dec 09 00:08 |
| cubezzz | is Celeron 2.6 Ghz 64 bit or 32 bit, anyone know? | Dec 09 00:12 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJXOeC1BFGA&feature=PlayList&p=NdUKgWY_70k | Dec 09 00:13 |
| _goblin | bet thats a publicity stunt for a movie. | Dec 09 00:15 |
| cubezzz | ok, 32 bit cpu | Dec 09 00:16 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: When you get time, listen to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVtVR7Nme0 its very apt and true (in regards to what we've been talking about) | Dec 09 00:16 |
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| schestowitz | Hhe. Another good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBrDzZCOQtI&feature=PlayList&p=NdUKgWY_70k | Dec 09 00:20 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: it's a song | Dec 09 00:21 |
| _goblin | yeo | Dec 09 00:21 |
| _goblin | yep | Dec 09 00:21 |
| _goblin | Another mans cause... | Dec 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Whose cause? | Dec 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Blackwater? | Dec 09 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Chevron? | Dec 09 00:21 |
| _goblin | about the men in a family following the call to the army and then dying for "another mans cause" | Dec 09 00:22 |
| cubezzz | is the dual cpu ARM? | Dec 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: BBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ILa_4uhJkM&feature=related | Dec 09 00:22 |
| cubezzz | is there | Dec 09 00:22 |
| _goblin | father, son, brother | Dec 09 00:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viVAAy_qkx0&feature=PlayList&p=NdUKgWY_70k | Dec 09 00:24 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Ive seen that before and going to say something...In my opinion any whistle blower serviceman has no honour....you don't enter the theatre to simply blow the whistle on return... | Dec 09 00:25 |
| _goblin | its something I feel strongly about. | Dec 09 00:25 |
| _goblin | Its a little like looking after your own family.... | Dec 09 00:26 |
| _goblin | anyway moving on to less depressing topics.....I had the pleasure of meeting a very well learned Rabbi earlier today who is a Linux advocate! | Dec 09 00:28 |
| _goblin | and he uses Mandriva! | Dec 09 00:29 |
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| cubezzz | anyone remember Dick Shawn? :) | Dec 09 00:33 |
| _goblin | ? | Dec 09 00:33 |
| _goblin | in what context? | Dec 09 00:33 |
| cubezzz | the comedian | Dec 09 00:34 |
| _goblin | nope... | Dec 09 00:35 |
| _goblin | US? | Dec 09 00:35 |
| cubezzz | he's brilliant, look him up on youtube | Dec 09 00:35 |
| _goblin | ah yes....found him! | Dec 09 00:35 |
| _goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sX9mIXdlVQ | Dec 09 00:35 |
| cubezzz | ah, American, maybe that's why you don't know about him | Dec 09 00:35 |
| cubezzz | voice of Snow Miser? | Dec 09 00:36 |
| _goblin | Snow Miser? | Dec 09 00:36 |
| *cubezzz senses an age barrier :) | Dec 09 00:36 | |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Miser | Dec 09 00:37 |
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| _goblin | and a country barrier too? | Dec 09 00:37 |
| _goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yon2YuXssvo | Dec 09 00:37 |
| cubezzz | some of his early stuff has to be seen to be believed | Dec 09 00:38 |
| _goblin | that link I found...put me in mind immediately of: | Dec 09 00:39 |
| _goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlK62rjQWLk | Dec 09 00:39 |
| cubezzz | 1974 stop motion magic | Dec 09 00:39 |
| cubezzz | yes, you found it :) | Dec 09 00:41 |
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| cubezzz | "originally released in small quantities in 1994 with a 25 MHz Motorola 68030 CPU, and re-released in greater numbers by Escom in 1995, after Commodore's demise Despite the subsequent demise of Escom, production was continued by QuikPak in North America into at least 1997." | Dec 09 00:43 |
| jose_X | http://finance.yahoo.com/news/How-fake-sites-trick-search-apf-1815482283.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode= | Dec 09 00:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: How fake sites trick search engines to hit the top - Yahoo! Finance .::. Size~: 93.96 KB | Dec 09 00:43 |
| jose_X | >> With a little sleight of hand, con artists can dupe them into giving top billing to fraudulent Web sites that prey on consumers, making unwitting accomplices of companies such as Google, Yahoo and Microsoft. | Dec 09 00:44 |
| jose_X | >> He then used his knowledge of how search engines rank Web sites to achieve something that shocked him: His phony site got a No. 2 ranking on Yahoo Inc.'s search engine and landed in the top slot on Microsoft Corp.'s Bing, ahead of even the credit union's real site. | Dec 09 00:44 |
| jose_X | Google Inc., which handles two-thirds of U.S. search requests, didn't fall into Stickley's trap. | Dec 09 00:44 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: here in the uk, I think the Batman pack was the catalist for the Amiga's success. | Dec 09 00:44 |
| cubezzz | Amiga 4000 in production until 1997 | Dec 09 00:45 |
| *trmanco is going to play duke nuke 3d | Dec 09 00:45 | |
| cubezzz | _goblin, was the batman pack Amiga 500 or 1200? | Dec 09 00:45 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: a500 | Dec 09 00:45 |
| cubezzz | right, late 80's | Dec 09 00:45 |
| cubezzz | I should have guessed | Dec 09 00:45 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: and the film had been delayed so it heightened interest | Dec 09 00:46 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: stroke of luck there.... | Dec 09 00:46 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: because the Batman pack outsold the then popular Atari ST. | Dec 09 00:46 |
| jose_X | schestowitz, just wanted to leave that link. If Microsoft weren't so sloppy, they would be extremely dangerous. | Dec 09 00:46 |
| cubezzz | _goblin, I think you should be able to find a 1200 without too much trouble | Dec 09 00:46 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: yeah...now to find a util that takes .adf and pushes it back to Amiga floppies. | Dec 09 00:47 |
| jose_X | ..or maybe that is part of the act | Dec 09 00:47 |
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| _goblin | cubezzz: I have a catweasel that ive never installed.. | Dec 09 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm.., he left so soon | Dec 09 01:03 |
| _goblin | and im off now...early start! Goodnight all! | Dec 09 01:04 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Sells New PC for $150 Cheaper with #GNU #Linux Than With #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/hdvf | Dec 09 01:10 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Advocated for #NHS IT Recovery, UK Government http://ur1.ca/hdvi http://ur1.ca/hdvj | Dec 09 01:13 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android 2.0 Comes to the UK, Gets Update http://ur1.ca/hdwa http://ur1.ca/hdwb http://ur1.ca/hdwc | Dec 09 01:28 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sugar Targets All #GNU #Linux Sub-notebooks http://bit.ly/7Pgniv | Dec 09 01:30 | |
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| cubezzz | hmmm new Vostro | Dec 09 01:50 |
| cubezzz | and tons of microsoft ads :-/ | Dec 09 01:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Licensing of #MySQL Database Under Attack http://ur1.ca/hcxx http://ur1.ca/hdy0 | Dec 09 01:55 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Java Rises as Free Software Framework http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10014582o-2000458459b,00.htm | Dec 09 01:58 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: Microsoft's own ads? | Dec 09 02:00 |
| schestowitz | Or Dell bogus recommendation? | Dec 09 02:00 |
| cubezzz | umm, let me check | Dec 09 02:00 |
| schestowitz | Maybe fat Tony threatened to "Whack" Dell again | Dec 09 02:00 |
| cubezzz | flash ads for Microsoft SQL server | Dec 09 02:01 |
| cubezzz | like I'm going to get that | Dec 09 02:01 |
| cubezzz | you know google's chrome browser isn't bad | Dec 09 02:02 |
| cubezzz | Dell seems the most pro LInux of any OEM | Dec 09 02:03 |
| schestowitz | I use ThunderBrowse | Dec 09 02:04 |
| schestowitz | I trust Mozilla more than Google | Dec 09 02:04 |
| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/does-the-eu-commission-use-google-analytics/ | Dec 09 02:04 |
| schestowitz | http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/eu-chemical-agency-and-the-analytics-trojan/ | Dec 09 02:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/07/schmidt_on_privacy/ | Dec 09 02:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/wiretap-prices/ | Dec 09 02:04 |
| schestowitz | http://pblog.bna.com/techlaw/2009/12/ecpa-protections-dont-apply-outside-united-states.html | Dec 09 02:04 |
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| cubezzz | you know what I really hate? | Dec 09 02:06 |
| cubezzz | web pages that say you must use the latest IE or Firefox | Dec 09 02:06 |
| cubezzz | but you have the latest Firefox and it still doesn't work | Dec 09 02:06 |
| cubezzz | with the nice aspx on the end | Dec 09 02:07 |
| cubezzz | so what they really mean is Firefox for doze | Dec 09 02:07 |
| cubezzz | the city I'm in is Microsoft infested | Dec 09 02:08 |
| cubezzz | so if I need to buy a dog license I have to use doze | Dec 09 02:08 |
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| cubezzz | the city web site is so bad, not even Firefox on doze works | Dec 09 02:10 |
| cubezzz | and... here's the funny part | Dec 09 02:10 |
| cubezzz | my city councilman needs to get his computer fixed so he brings his computer to me | Dec 09 02:11 |
| cubezzz | and naturally I point out the problem with the city's web page | Dec 09 02:11 |
| cubezzz | "I'll look into it" | Dec 09 02:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Privacy Not Honoured in the EU Anymore http://ur1.ca/hdz1 http://ur1.ca/hdz2 http://ur1.ca/hcl8 | Dec 09 02:12 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Yahoo! Sells Snoops http://ur1.ca/hdz3 http://ur1.ca/hdz5 | Dec 09 02:12 | |
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| cubezzz | yes, I'm looking don't worry :) | Dec 09 02:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Censorship in #Canada , #Kindle Accused Also http://ur1.ca/hdz8 http://ur1.ca/hdz9 | Dec 09 02:13 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Illegal Practices from the Intellectual Monopolists http://techdirt.com/articles/20091207/0102027231.shtml | Dec 09 02:14 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] US Acquires a #Monopoly on Basic Methods for Saving the Planet http://ur1.ca/hdzm | Dec 09 02:15 | |
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| cubezzz | that is too Ameri-centric | Dec 09 02:16 |
| cubezzz | I'm not subject to the patriot act | Dec 09 02:16 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, you talk more than any of us and you're not censored | Dec 09 02:18 |
| cubezzz | things can't be too bad | Dec 09 02:18 |
| cubezzz | now if boycottnovell disappeared I'd worry | Dec 09 02:19 |
| schestowitz | In relation to what though | Dec 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz | ? | Dec 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: I'm not the first to complain about those 'green' patents | Dec 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I read some articles about it and they opened my eyes | Dec 09 02:20 |
| schestowitz | They said the same about monopoly on saving the Earth | Dec 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz | So nations need to ask the US for 'permission' to reduce emissions... on obvious inventions | Dec 09 02:21 |
| cubezzz | what I mean is that your web site isn't censored in any way | Dec 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Glyn Moody called it suicidal too | Dec 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Him and I think alike for the most part... that's how I found his material | Dec 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: censorship through abuse | Dec 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz | ->self-censorship | Dec 09 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Look back at 2007... I was more blunt and direct | Dec 09 02:22 |
| cubezzz | lol, US can't patent things word-wide, can they? | Dec 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz | Now I need to keep it cool | Dec 09 02:22 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: they can do anything | Dec 09 02:22 |
| cubezzz | world-wide | Dec 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz | They have lobbyists | Dec 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz | Sanctions and all | Dec 09 02:23 |
| cubezzz | but even your 2007 articles are still accessible? | Dec 09 02:23 |
| schestowitz | And those who point it out like FFII are labelled "anti-American" or something | Dec 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Like the European Commission and Kroes in particular | Dec 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft and Intel tried it | Dec 09 02:24 |
| cubezzz | oh I think I understand now | Dec 09 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Most readers of BN are from the US | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | I think most of them are enlightened enough though, as they understand what Microsoft is doing | Dec 09 02:25 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft effects everyone using computers | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | Guilt is not a bad thing on a national level | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | I have that too | Dec 09 02:25 |
| schestowitz | What's bad is when people religiious support their country/gender/faith/army without actually giving way to reason | Dec 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Q: "Why do you support it?" | Dec 09 02:26 |
| schestowitz | A: "Cause that's my <x>" | Dec 09 02:26 |
| cubezzz | well you "support Linux" :) | Dec 09 02:28 |
| cubezzz | everyone has something they support | Dec 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz | I support Free sofwtare | Dec 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz | It started as "Linux" | Dec 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Cause I liked the environment | Dec 09 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Later I discovered more | Dec 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz | But I also knew about Microsoft's crimes | Dec 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Linux is not opposite of Microsoft | Dec 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz | GNU is | Dec 09 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, gn | Dec 09 02:29 |
| cubezzz | later | Dec 09 02:29 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Troll #Scientology for money http://ur1.ca/he0p #anonymous | Dec 09 02:41 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Is Batman the ideal mascot for MS? He's always trying to thwart the Penguin, which seems to fit MS's modus operandi :-/ | Dec 09 03:26 | |
| cubezzz | haha | Dec 09 03:31 |
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| Omar87__ | Hi there. | Dec 09 04:23 |
| Omar87__ | Anyone available? | Dec 09 04:23 |
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| Akhenaton | reptilians | Dec 09 04:38 |
| Akhenaton | "And on Earth there shall be monsters, a generation of dragons of men and likewise of serpents | Dec 09 04:42 |
| Akhenaton | God was just into cloning | Dec 09 04:44 |
| Akhenaton | baaaam | Dec 09 04:44 |
| Akhenaton | reptilians! | Dec 09 04:44 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @wikileaks: Big Pharma infiltrates WHO Expert Working Group process; WikiLeaks infiltrates Big Pharma http://bit.ly/4uJFyb | Dec 09 04:52 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] On the way to thalassery to participate in the gpled public release of #malayalam bibliography database !SMC | Dec 09 05:06 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @kcsanthosh: Campus ViBGYOR opens today at Law College, Thrissur, Kerala | Dec 09 05:07 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @takebackthetech: Day 15 Action - Build feminist knowledge, contribute to wikis! http://bit.ly/6CkcFG #ta | Dec 09 05:09 | |
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| cubezzz | may as well benchmark everything | Dec 09 06:17 |
| cubezzz | Celeron 2.6 ghz VAX MIPS rating = 2081.311 | Dec 09 06:17 |
| cubezzz | P3 550 mhz VAX MIPS rating = 602.915 | Dec 09 06:17 |
| cubezzz | SL-5500 200 mhz VAX MIPS rating = 129.943 | Dec 09 06:17 |
| cubezzz | I like how the new nmap works | Dec 09 06:18 |
| cubezzz | so, how will the AMD TF-20 compare | Dec 09 06:20 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Bifurcation of infringement and validity will be a disaster, as it is completely one-sided in favour of patentees: http://i5.be/XJ | Dec 09 09:02 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @chetan_bhagat: wife screamed at me this morning for no reason. felt like blocking her. #chetanblocks | Dec 09 09:20 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sreejithemk: Kerala state government going to roll out Google SoC style “fosster” project. http://tinyurl.com/yll7dcn | Dec 09 09:31 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Mono Hackers coming to HSB for FOSDEM, should bring some Microsoft software patents covering Mono? http://i5.be/XK | Dec 09 09:33 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] I need #piracy in music , films and books for my access to knowledge . But not in software , because #foss grants all the rights i need | Dec 09 09:38 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] "An open format is [..] made available to the public without restrictions that would impede the re-use of that information" http://i5.be/XL | Dec 09 09:41 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] As #SCO Shrinks by Half, Is Darl McBride Setting up Defamation Sites? http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/darl-mcbride-scandal-pelican/ | Dec 09 09:45 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Time to launch a rebuttal campaign against Peer to Patent, expanding their pro-software patent program in Australia: http://i5.be/XM | Dec 09 09:57 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Microsoft Breaks the #Internet – Latest Examples http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ruins-the-internet/ | Dec 09 10:14 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: are they really that much of a problem? | Dec 09 10:26 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat and sflc back them | Dec 09 10:26 |
| oiaohm | I am wondering how many deals like boxee and dlink are we going to see. | Dec 09 10:44 |
| schestowitz | Will the box(ee) run Ubuntu? | Dec 09 11:00 |
| schestowitz | They don't say yet | Dec 09 11:00 |
| schestowitz | They said the specs are to be revealed | Dec 09 11:00 |
| schestowitz | It can't be OS X... | Dec 09 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Licensing/EULA issue | Dec 09 11:01 |
| schestowitz | ANd WIndows for them is like beta... not even supported until recently...and expensive and unstable | Dec 09 11:01 |
| schestowitz | You don't want your PVR catchign viruses | Dec 09 11:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Letter to Chief Minister of Kerala on IT Policy Violation and proprietory software procurement - http://tinyurl.com/ygxg62p #gis #foss | Dec 09 11:05 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: you can bet the dlink boxee will be either freebsd or linux. That is about all they use inside there devices. | Dec 09 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Boxee doesn't support BSD | Dec 09 11:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Copyrighted SQL Queries, #Microsoft Alliance with Company That Attacks F/OSS with Software Patents http://ur1.ca/hern | Dec 09 11:10 | |
| schestowitz | ANd they seem to stick to binary distribution | Dec 09 11:10 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Patents Roundup: Copyrighted SQL Queries, Microsoft Alliance with Company That Attacks F/OSS with Software Patents, Peer-to-Patent in Australia | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 107.99 KB | Dec 09 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu only AFAICT | Dec 09 11:10 |
| schestowitz | They add 64-bit support | Dec 09 11:10 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: It core works on freebsd in the Linux support section | Dec 09 11:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Sprint-Sued-For-Distracted-Driving-Death-105828 | Dec 09 11:16 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: why would they choose bsd over Linux? | Dec 09 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Main reason dlink does is so they don't have to release drivers for the hardware. | Dec 09 11:17 |
| oiaohm | Ie lock in. | Dec 09 11:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091207/1559557238.shtml | Dec 09 11:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: A Look Back: NBC's Words Against AOL/Time Warner Merger May Come Back To Haunt | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.47 KB | Dec 09 11:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/08/murdochs-war-with-the-aggregators | Dec 09 11:27 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Murdoch's War with the Aggregators | WebProNews .::. Size~: 34.1 KB | Dec 09 11:27 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: http://identi.ca/notice/16345854 | Dec 09 11:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Matthew Davidson (freemjd) 's status on Wednesday, 09-Dec-09 01:26:54 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.56 KB | Dec 09 11:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Google-Buys-Wave-Competitioner | Dec 09 11:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | GOOGLE IS BUYING THE INTERNET, NEWS AT 11 | Dec 09 11:49 |
| schestowitz | I reckon it's better to avoid Chrome.... http://linuxcrunch.com/content/google-chrome-linux-goes-beta | Dec 09 11:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Chrome for Linux goes beta! | We love Linux ! .::. Size~: 21.15 KB | Dec 09 11:56 |
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| schestowitz | Novell is now losing its UK distributors | Dec 09 12:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1565351/germany-funds-microsoft-stuff-ups | Dec 09 13:09 |
| schestowitz | "THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT has decided to spend a lot of its citizens' tax money helping them recover from malware directed at Microsoft machines." | Dec 09 13:09 |
| schestowitz | AOL Time Warner splits after near 10-year marriage http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8403302.stm | Dec 09 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/08/google-chrome-beta-downloads-for-mac-and-linux-now-available/ | Dec 09 13:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Chrome beta downloads for Mac and Linux now available .::. Size~: 80.18 KB | Dec 09 13:17 |
| trmanco | http://tinyurl.com/yz9vgda | Dec 09 13:24 |
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| trmanco | real time :D | Dec 09 13:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20091205TDY02307.htm | Dec 09 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Biometric FAIL. | Dec 09 13:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/thesword/2009/12/is-britains-big-biomedical-ins.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news | Dec 09 13:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Is Britain's big biomedical institute politician-proof? - The S Word - New Scientist .::. Size~: 24.92 KB | Dec 09 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.areyoupayingattention.com/2009/12/climate-crisis-over-nothing-to-see-here/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheUniversalGadget+(Are+you+paying+attention%3F)&utm_content=Google+Reader | Dec 09 13:44 |
| kecskebak | http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16449 | Dec 09 14:01 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Mozilla Launches Thunderbird 3 - http://bit.ly/85Wlsp big moment for Mozilla Messaging >> my most used app | Dec 09 14:02 | |
| schestowitz | kecskebak: did you hear about the leak? | Dec 09 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-summit-disarray-danish-text | Dec 09 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/08/tamiflu-swine-flu-roche | Dec 09 14:14 |
| kecskebak | Sorry - I just had to pack up my daughter's toys! | Dec 09 14:20 |
| kecskebak | No, I didn't hear about the leak - thanks for the link. | Dec 09 14:20 |
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| kecskebak | I'm old enough to remember the documentaries on Global Cooling in the 70s when I was a kid, so this Global Warming thing strikes me as bobbins. | Dec 09 14:23 |
| schestowitz | As as kid I heard about the ozone issue | Dec 09 14:28 |
| schestowitz | It was taught at schools. | Dec 09 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Watch this: http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/8/stream | Dec 09 14:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Democracy Now! | Listen/Watch Today's Show .::. Size~: 28.81 KB | Dec 09 14:28 |
| kecskebak | Amy "a bit left wing but not enough to upset anyone" Goodman :) | Dec 09 14:29 |
| kecskebak | Apart from Canada. | Dec 09 14:29 |
| kecskebak | In the South of England there are places named after the grapes that used to be grown there in medieval times | Dec 09 14:31 |
| kecskebak | After that the Thames froze so thickly they could hold ice fairs on it | Dec 09 14:31 |
| kecskebak | If either would have happened now, what would climate scientists blame it on? | Dec 09 14:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Has anyone installed Thunderbird 3.0 yet? I wonder what plugin compatibility is like at this stage. | Dec 09 14:33 | |
| schestowitz | kecskebak: well, it doesn't happen now, does it? :-) And yes, I know that story... | Dec 09 14:36 |
| kecskebak | But it will again | Dec 09 14:36 |
| schestowitz | How do you know? | Dec 09 14:36 |
| schestowitz | And Manchester has been warm this winter | Dec 09 14:36 |
| kecskebak | Hungary has been colder than average | Dec 09 14:36 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Live on Mars after all? http://ur1.ca/hf31 #science | Dec 09 14:36 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Science Story | Martian Methane May Be Created By Lifeforms .::. Size~: 153.58 KB | Dec 09 14:36 |
| schestowitz | The question is whether it's exacerbated by the gases | Dec 09 14:36 |
| kecskebak | Yes, and I haven't seen anything that convinces me either way. | Dec 09 14:37 |
| schestowitz | kecskebak: that's because MinceR it there with a cold heart | Dec 09 14:37 |
| kecskebak | :) | Dec 09 14:37 |
| schestowitz | http://spacefellowship.com/2009/12/08/life-on-mars-theory-boosted-by-new-methane-study/ | Dec 09 14:38 |
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| schestowitz | heh. Gas->life | Dec 09 14:38 |
| schestowitz | kecskebak: rising sea levels | Dec 09 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Ask people in the Maldives | Dec 09 14:38 |
| kecskebak | When I was young all the OU programmes I used to watch talked about a 40 year warming/40 year cooling cycle | Dec 09 14:39 |
| kecskebak | Nowadays the same course just talks about warming. It all strikes me as strange. | Dec 09 14:40 |
| kecskebak | I don't discount the fact that the climate may be warming, and due to man's activities | Dec 09 14:41 |
| kecskebak | But I just haven't seen anything that convinces me | Dec 09 14:41 |
| kecskebak | That what is happening now is that | Dec 09 14:41 |
| kecskebak | There is no reason not to burn less fossil fuels for other reasons | Dec 09 14:41 |
| kecskebak | Gas is too valuable a chemical feedstock to be wasted on heating homes | Dec 09 14:42 |
| kecskebak | I used to live next door to a nuclear scientist who said current nuclear reactors were as stupid as burning the bark on logs and chucking the logs away | Dec 09 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Dec 09 14:45 |
| schestowitz | And some plants operate decade past their lifetime, leading to leaks and disasters | Dec 09 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Chernobyl 2.0 | Dec 09 14:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | bad schestowitz | Dec 09 14:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | chernobyl happened due to bad design and bad operating practices | Dec 09 14:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | not because it was too old | Dec 09 14:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the design for chernobyl was for a coal fired planet and completely unsuitable for a nuclear reactor, and the guy running it was never trained to operate a nuclear plant and was in the middle of a standard operating test done on coal fired plants | Dec 09 14:49 |
| schestowitz | In Siberia, Chernobyl designs YOU | Dec 09 14:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | our nuclear power plants are actual nuclear power plants | Dec 09 14:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/5/should_economic_stimulus_bill_include_billions | Dec 09 14:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Should Economic Stimulus Bill Include Billions for Nuclear Power? .::. Size~: 47.5 KB | Dec 09 14:50 |
| kecskebak | My neighbour said the best sort of reactor was this sort http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_Fast_Reactor | Dec 09 14:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Integral Fast Reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 128.24 KB | Dec 09 14:54 |
| kecskebak | You can even stuff nuclear waste into it. | Dec 09 14:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.examiner.com/x-9111-SF-Environmental-Policy-Examiner~y2009m12d5-Global-warming-and-bugs-in-the-software-code-that-measures-global-warming | Dec 09 14:55 |
| kecskebak | Which removes the need for doing any more mining | Dec 09 14:55 |
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| kecskebak | Incidentally, re Chernobyl, there is an epidemic of thyroid problems in Hungary at the moment. My mother-in-law and her husband both have benign thyroid tumours | Dec 09 14:56 |
| kecskebak | It is apparently linked to Chernobyl | Dec 09 14:56 |
| kecskebak | Incidentally my neighbour was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Bowie - one of the cleverest blokes I've ever met | Dec 09 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | Hmmm... | Dec 09 15:27 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz : I decided I would stick to Claws Mail. TB3 gives me even more headache than TB2 & it's still as confusing as ever." | Dec 09 15:27 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz So far the important extensions like Lightning, Provider for Google Calendar, and gContactSync work for me in Thunderbird 3." | Dec 09 15:28 |
| trmanco | kontact ruls them all | Dec 09 15:33 |
| schestowitz | Maemo spreads... http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/optima-op5-e-runs-maemo-linux-just-like-nokia-n900 | Dec 09 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: I left Kmail 5 years ago | Dec 09 15:36 |
| trmanco | bad move | Dec 09 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Carelessness busts Linux security < http://www.zdnet.com.au/blogs/null-pointer/soa/Carelessness-busts-Linux-security/0,2001102868,339299939,00.htm > | Dec 09 15:40 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] anyone know a Linux friendly (or Windows refund) netbook vendor in the UK? | Dec 09 15:50 | |
| schestowitz | We seem to have a troll nymshift and post under a new nym in the comments..... http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ruins-the-internet/#comments | Dec 09 15:52 |
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| schestowitz | Probably the one going under distro names.... | Dec 09 15:52 |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | Dec 09 15:57 |
| trmanco | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2009-December/002333.html | Dec 09 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks | Dec 09 16:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html | Dec 09 16:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://journal.dedasys.com/2009/12/06/so-long-debian | Dec 09 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | it's like ESR making noise when leaving Fedora | Dec 09 16:41 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm.. rants.. http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=gnu_chess_fail&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Dec 09 16:45 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Great observation about the shutdown countdown timer in #ubuntu. http://bit.ly/77TPMl #fb | Dec 09 17:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I was wrong | Dec 09 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | you pay 10% federal tax up to about $8 an hour | Dec 09 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | once you get about $8 an hour, the next bracket is 15% | Dec 09 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | then you don't go to 25% until you make about $32.60 an hour | Dec 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | that's all assuming you work 40 hours a week | Dec 09 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | 15% tax bracket is way too wide | Dec 09 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Hey, DaemonFC | Dec 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | but the personal exemption went up from $3500 to $3650, so poor people get a whole $22.50 of their money back on this year's return that they didn't last year | Dec 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | what they do with it is up to them I guess | Dec 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | that's about 3 days of decent groceries | Dec 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Dec 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | the standard deduction went up $500 | Dec 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | so now we've got $97.50 more on a 2009 return for a single person making more than $8 an hour but less than $32.60 | Dec 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | there's the Earned Income Tax Credit for people that are poor enough and old enough (You have to be over 25), but that can flag you for an audit | Dec 09 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | I remember I qualified for it one year several years ago and couldn't take it because I was not 25 | Dec 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | that would have given me another $500 on that year's return, but the government said I didn't need it cause I wasn't 25 | Dec 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | 19 year olds don't need to eat | Dec 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | did you know that, schestowitz? :) | Dec 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if someone could sue them for discrimination over that | Dec 09 18:04 |
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| DaemonFC | the people that need the credit can't afford to sue the bastards though | Dec 09 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | That's what makes it self sustaining, I guess | Dec 09 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, most people that age probably don't know how to file their taxes anyway | Dec 09 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | (it's not hard) | Dec 09 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | I can't even tel lyou how many people I worked with went and paid H&R Block like $60 to file an 1040EZ and an IT40-EZ | Dec 09 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | takes like 20 minutes to do the worksheets if you're single with no dependents | Dec 09 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | go use the $60 on something you actually need :P | Dec 09 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | now, that's just the simple forms, if you're married filing jointly and you need an actual 1040 and IT-40, they really gouge you | Dec 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen married people with kids pay well over $300 to get their taxes done | Dec 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | I usually claimed 2 exemptions so they wouldn't withhold anything from my paychecks and then at the end of the year they could just bill me | Dec 09 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'd throw all the money I'd need in a Christmas account and forget about it til it came time to pay them | Dec 09 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | that way they can't fuck up what I owe and already have my money | Dec 09 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | or take 8 weeks to send me a check for the return | Dec 09 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | or get a 0% interest loan all year from me :) | Dec 09 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | they love people who have it withheld from their paychecks | Dec 09 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they feel like they cannot change anything | Dec 09 18:14 |
| schestowitz | The illusion of democracy might not be foreign to them after all | Dec 09 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | the tax system victimizes mainly the poor and the young | Dec 09 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | it massively benefits people making up to $171,000 | Dec 09 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | from $66,000 | Dec 09 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | the tax brackets jump massively for anyone making minimum wage to middle income | Dec 09 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | then they jsut really inch up a few percent at a time for the rich until they hit a maximum of 35% | Dec 09 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | so a guy making a living wage pays 15% tax, and Bill Gates will never pay more than 35% | Dec 09 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | the Senate health care bill is something totally rotten now | Dec 09 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's now the final stake in the heart of Medicare *and* "Buy insurance from a corporate plan or else..." at once | Dec 09 18:26 |
| schestowitz | No, rich people have 'charities' | Dec 09 18:26 |
| schestowitz | So they hardly pay any tax at all | Dec 09 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've been on the Board of Directors of a small non-profit group | Dec 09 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | for a few years | Dec 09 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | the IRS audited us because some money was embezzled and we never figured out who did it | Dec 09 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | they said we owed tax on all the money that was taken | Dec 09 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | we were trying to keep it quiet, but it leaked out and this Christian church decided to attack us by reporting the incident to the IRS | Dec 09 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | and we managed to go to court and win the case, but we were still down $15,000 and had to cut a few programs until we could hold fundraisers to recoup the cash | Dec 09 18:29 |
| schestowitz | So you were just crushed | Dec 09 18:30 |
| schestowitz | See, that's self-protective systems.... | Dec 09 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | I voted to pursue the IRS in tax court and to reject their settlement offer | Dec 09 18:30 |
| schestowitz | But the courts is nobody's win, except lawyers | Dec 09 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | both were 5-4 votes, it caused a lot of bad blood on the board | Dec 09 18:30 |
| schestowitz | And those who win are those who can afford more motions | Dec 09 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: We had a lawyer who represented us for free | Dec 09 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | it cost us like all of $350 to go to court and the IRS had to pay that back to us in the end | Dec 09 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | so I was on the board for a few months after that until there was just too much bickering and so I resigned | Dec 09 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | after I resigned, rumors started floating that I took the money | Dec 09 18:32 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gift Ideas for #GNU #Linux Advocates http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6923/1/ | Dec 09 18:34 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reasons to Avoid Desktop #GNU #Linux (Humour) http://penguininside.blogspot.com/2009/12/10-ridiculous-reasons-not-to-use-linux.html | Dec 09 18:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | cause we were still out the money and split on what to cut and how to go about raising more money | Dec 09 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't like management and I don't want to be a politician | Dec 09 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | and I got a taste of both, at once | Dec 09 18:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @amjadaliem: An Open Letter to POSCO on Orissa... http://brpbhaskar.blogspot.com/2009/12/poscos-orissa-project-open-letter.html | Dec 09 18:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Against Poverty 2010 to Launch http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/12/linux-against-poverty-2010-is-go.html | Dec 09 18:36 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #XtreemOS ( #GNU #Linux #Servers Grid) Has New OS http://ec.europa.eu/research/headlines/news/article_09_12_09_en.html | Dec 09 18:38 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you could try to become a politician, I think | Dec 09 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Start by sucking up to evil people | Dec 09 18:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analysis of #Google 's Role in Advancing #GNU #Linux http://www.igneousquill.net/2009/12/google-and-future-of-linux.html | Dec 09 18:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | not so much evil people in that case | Dec 09 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | just a lot of differing opinions | Dec 09 18:40 |
| schestowitz | But they need funding | Dec 09 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Their sugar daddies are corporations that use them (politicians) for leverage | Dec 09 18:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free #Libre #CAD Applications for #GNU #Linux http://www.junauza.com/2009/12/free-and-open-source-cad-software-for.html | Dec 09 18:45 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the Latest #Empathy and #Rhythmbox for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/hfn2 http://ur1.ca/hfn3 | Dec 09 18:46 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Future Identity of #GNOME and K Desktop Environment http://ur1.ca/hfnf http://ur1.ca/hfng | Dec 09 18:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review of #Slitaz Linux, New #Magazine for #PCLinuxOS http://ur1.ca/hfnl http://ur1.ca/hfnm | Dec 09 18:49 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 12 Receives Splendid #Review http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1296 http://www.montanalinux.org/fedora12-upgrading-vs-install.html | Dec 09 18:50 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.0 Finally Here, as Alpha Debian Family | Dec 09 18:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Tablet PC Runs #Ubuntu #Linux http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/DLI-8800/?kc=rss | Dec 09 18:57 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Device Runs #Nokia 's #Linux, Without Nokia's Dependence http://ur1.ca/hfo9 | Dec 09 19:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sugar Labs Announces Blueberry, Targets #GNU #Linux on Many Devices http://ur1.ca/hfod | Dec 09 19:02 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Explanation About Where #Microsoft Derives Lies About #GNU #Linux Market Share from http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29909/1090/ | Dec 09 19:11 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware is Winning Over Industry http://ur1.ca/hfpf http://ur1.ca/hfpg | Dec 09 19:13 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Advice for Free Software Projects, #Ardour Adds Comprehensive Documentation http://ur1.ca/hfpl http://ur1.ca/hcqh | Dec 09 19:15 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] European #Schools Gravitate Towards #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/hfpw | Dec 09 19:16 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Olswang Summit Covers #FreeSoftware https://fossbazaar.org/content/olswang-open-source-summit | Dec 09 19:17 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #jQuery Receives Award, Recommending #FreeSoftware Gets Easier http://ur1.ca/hfqh http://ur1.ca/hfqi | Dec 09 19:24 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Web Browser #Chrome and #ChromeOS Get Speed Tracer http://ur1.ca/hfqk | Dec 09 19:25 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla #Thunderbird 3 is Released http://ur1.ca/hfqm http://ur1.ca/hfqo http://ur1.ca/hfqp | Dec 09 19:26 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Pushed my first package in fedora repository. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/sagarun . Will write about it :-) | Dec 09 19:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mobile #Firefox Almost Released http://ur1.ca/hfqr http://ur1.ca/hfqt | Dec 09 19:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | put cyanide in it | Dec 09 19:32 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Value of #GNU Need to be Remembered, New Release of #Graudit http://ur1.ca/hfro http://ur1.ca/hfrp | Dec 09 19:40 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Hungarian Government Starts Implementing Free/Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/hfrr | Dec 09 19:41 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Inspires More Free/Libre #Hardware http://ur1.ca/hfrv http://ur1.ca/hfrw | Dec 09 19:42 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SFLC Talks About #GPL Licensing and #MySQL http://ur1.ca/h9yo http://ur1.ca/hckr | Dec 09 19:43 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Google: Intellectual Monopolies Threatens UK Freedom http://bit.ly/6IelGq | Dec 09 19:54 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mandy Slammed by Lib Dems http://ur1.ca/hfsp http://ur1.ca/hfsq | Dec 09 19:55 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Harm #Blind People http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/12/intellectual-monopolists-scorn-blind.html | Dec 09 19:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Microsoft Loves #ACTA http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/12/microsoft-gets-in-on-acta.html | Dec 09 19:57 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/354025/nvidia-announces-3d-blu-ray-for-2010 Boy does it fell good I have not updated my TV yet. | Dec 09 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you insensitive clot | Dec 09 19:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Obama Wants Open Standards (ODF) http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/index.php/site/obama_open_government_directive_odf/ | Dec 09 20:05 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pay-to-Say #Gartner Gang Sued Again for #Libel http://www.research-live.com/zl-files-fresh-libel-complaint-against-gartner/4001682.article | Dec 09 20:06 | |
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| PetoKraus | it's h | Dec 09 20:39 |
| _goblin | anyone here using GoogleDNS | Dec 09 21:05 |
| MinceR | not me | Dec 09 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Dec 09 21:13 |
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| schestowitz | Google gets enough tracking from the toolbar | Dec 09 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Namely list of all pages... | Dec 09 21:14 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't need my IRC logins also... newsgroups etc | Dec 09 21:14 |
| MinceR | google probably thinks they can't get enough tracking | Dec 09 21:16 |
| MinceR | and they've already said it out loud and clear that if you don't want them to see something about you then you must be a criminal | Dec 09 21:16 |
| MinceR | i wish there was a search engine that worked and wasn't backed by complete assholes | Dec 09 21:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Germany Takes #Microsoft ’s Bill http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/windows-malware-tax/ | Dec 09 21:24 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Looking for Violations in #FreeSoftware: Fearsome or Awesome? http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/openlogic-pulls-a-black-duck/ | Dec 09 21:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | the wind is so strong outside I could barely walk forward | Dec 09 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | it about shoved me down the stairs too | Dec 09 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | temperature is down to 20 degrees, iccck | Dec 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | nasty | Dec 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | I put the pop out on the deck cause it'll get cold faster out there than in my freezer | Dec 09 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 09 21:44 |
| schestowitz | 20 Celsius... yay | Dec 09 21:47 |
| trmanco | no celisuis | Dec 09 21:49 |
| trmanco | not* | Dec 09 21:49 |
| trmanco | is it? | Dec 09 21:49 |
| trmanco | that is warm weather | Dec 09 21:49 |
| _goblin | Roy, I liked that letter of thanks to you on COLA. | Dec 09 21:51 |
| _goblin | very nice. | Dec 09 21:52 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] My take on: #Gartner Group Sued for Libel http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/gartner-libel-lawsuit/ | Dec 09 21:52 | |
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| schestowitz | Wow. BN server is overwhelmed today | Dec 09 21:56 |
| schestowitz | I can't even write posts without freezed in pageloads. | Dec 09 21:56 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: do you know who it was? | Dec 09 21:56 |
| schestowitz | When I first see such posts I think it's one of the trolls | Dec 09 21:56 |
| schestowitz | But the followups say it's not | Dec 09 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | 20 degrees Celsius would be about 68 Fahrenheit | Dec 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's definitely not a beautiful spring day here | Dec 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | it is about -7 Celsius if you prefer it that way | Dec 09 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 09 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's a matter of what system is the "standard" where you're at | Dec 09 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see a clear benefit to either one | Dec 09 22:03 |
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| DaemonFC | having both just means more confusion and two systems to learn | Dec 09 22:03 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't like the Celsius system mainly because each degree Celsius represents a much higher temperature variation | Dec 09 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | so you have to start using decimals more often | Dec 09 22:04 |
| MinceR | i prefer Kelvin because it's a lot less arbitrary | Dec 09 22:05 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Not sure. It was very nice though and I think you have had more than a small part to play in many people discovering Linux. Thats why you are attacked so often. | Dec 09 22:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Young Napoleon Comes to #Africa and Told Off http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/bill-gates-monopolisation/ | Dec 09 22:08 | |
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| MinceR | but i prefer Celsius to Fahrenheit because it has less random reference points | Dec 09 22:09 |
| trmanco | here it's about 14 degrees celsius | Dec 09 22:11 |
| MinceR | it's about 6 °C here | Dec 09 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | "If you really want to screw with your head, go to Puerto Rico. The gas is sold in liters, the distance is in kilometers but, the speed limit is in miles per hour. The temperature is usually given in both Celsius and Fahrenheit." | Dec 09 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Dec 09 22:15 |
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| MinceR | lol | Dec 09 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: yeah, I found it nice... elevates one's morale | Dec 09 22:48 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: from the emails Ive received you should have had alot more, I think people are embarassed to post. I have avoided posting some of the comments for the fear of the Wintrolls claiming I am trying to defend you...I can't be bothered with another silly Wintroll "oh yes you are, oh no Im not" argument... | Dec 09 22:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Avoid #Mono to Put Back the *NIX in #GNU #Linux http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/wrong-direction-with-mono/ | Dec 09 22:52 | |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: they have a tactic | Dec 09 22:56 |
| schestowitz | They describe people who defend me as "shills" of mine | Dec 09 22:56 |
| schestowitz | To embarrass and discourage them | Dec 09 22:57 |
| schestowitz | OpenSUSE boosters: | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > Hello , | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > Its great to see that the new openSUSE Board Members are announced | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > [1].And i would take this time to Congratulate Bryen Yunashko , Rupert | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > Horstkoetter and Pavol Rusnak for the same and hope to have a much more | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > better experience , more enthusiasm and more fun working to/for the | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > openSUSE Community as a openSUSE team. | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > And now its the time to Tweet , Blog , Digg and facebook the | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > announcement and let everyone know the new energetic team of the | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > openSUSE Board is up. So go ahead and spread the Word.And make a point | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > that this time we have more than "Those sweet numbers" like we had for | Dec 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | > the openSUSE 11.2 release. | Dec 09 22:58 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: and don't forget if it doesn't deter them then they can always say "ahhhhhhh you're killing the FOSS!!!!!" | Dec 09 22:59 |
| _goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/ahhhhh-youre-killing-foss/ | Dec 09 23:00 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell ’s Channel Breaks Further, Novell Loses Over $200,000,000 in 2009 (Fiscal) http://ur1.ca/hg53 | Dec 09 23:08 | |
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| oiaohm | There is far more important things we could focus on. | Dec 09 23:09 |
| oiaohm | Like a common binary between elf systems. ie freebsd solarias Linux. | Dec 09 23:10 |
| MinceR | how do you link to multiple different libcs? | Dec 09 23:11 |
| MinceR | at the same time, i mean | Dec 09 23:12 |
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| oiaohm | Use your own loader MinceR | Dec 09 23:19 |
| oiaohm | Linux Solarias and FreeBSD the kernel does not know how to dynamic link. The dynamic loader is a little static program. | Dec 09 23:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell , #OpenSUSE , and “Those Sweet Numbers” http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/gaming-of-social-networks-suse/ | Dec 09 23:21 | |
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| oiaohm | People are not aware that LSB programs use a independant loader to the rest of the system so can be using a different libc to the rest of the system core. | Dec 09 23:21 |
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| trmanco | grr | Dec 09 23:26 |
| trmanco | had a blackout | Dec 09 23:26 |
| trmanco | :| | Dec 09 23:26 |
| oiaohm | Hang on MinceR I was thinking having a program using 3 different versions of libc at the same time. If its just different versions of libc one at a time. As long as you use standard functions it does not matter what one you are linked to. | Dec 09 23:26 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 09 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD already has a linux simulation layer for most Linux-specific programs | Dec 09 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | that's the most useful when you're running a proprietary Linux program with no source code available | Dec 09 23:39 |
| oiaohm | All Unix's do as well DaemonFC | Dec 09 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I use FreeBSD | Dec 09 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | less driver support sometimes, but it doesn't fall over and die as much | Dec 09 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think on the whole it may be less buggy | Dec 09 23:41 |
| oiaohm | There is a lot of build time duplication. There are a lot of programs that don't use platform particular code. | Dec 09 23:41 |
| oiaohm | And other than the elf header saying OS would just work on the other platforms. Ie Linux FreeBSd Solarias | Dec 09 23:42 |
| oiaohm | I have had good and bad times with both FreeBSD and Linux. | Dec 09 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | the more you dumb things down though, the more users you'll get | Dec 09 23:43 |
| MinceR | so macos will take over the world? :> | Dec 09 23:44 |
| oiaohm | Device mapping for like eth0 and so on has been the worst headaches on Linux. | Dec 09 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | Windows and Mac proved that years ago, that dumbing things down grabs you 95 users out of 100 | Dec 09 23:44 |
| MinceR | network interfaces aren't mapped to devices on linux | Dec 09 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | yes, FreeBSD names the devices after what brand they are and such | Dec 09 23:45 |
| oiaohm | Will in future MinceR There is a mapping table coming so it not random pot luck at times. | Dec 09 23:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft and Google to appear in court? http://tinyurl.com/yzwe9ae #microsoft #windows #piracy #google | Dec 09 23:46 | |
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| oiaohm | FreeBSD I have had major annoyances due to odd ball performance and not have different io schedulers to use. | Dec 09 23:47 |
| MinceR | i thought their mapping was already stabilized via mac addresses | Dec 09 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Works fine all bar when a network card has a programmerable mac address and it decided to go slightly nuts. | Dec 09 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Or if you pull a card out and drop another in the same slot as a replacement. | Dec 09 23:48 |
| oiaohm | System need to be a little smartter on card handling. | Dec 09 23:49 |
| MinceR | the default mac address should be retrievable | Dec 09 23:51 |
| oiaohm | Not always it depends on what has malfunctioned MinceR | Dec 09 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Smarter handling avoids the growing tree of ethx items. | Dec 09 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Basically recored mac plus slot that the card is in. If mac goes nuts system can work it out. If card blows and you drop a replacement in system can solve as well. | Dec 09 23:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: #Peer2Patent #Australia , #Microsoft and #ACTA http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/09/acta-rears-ugly-head-msft/ | Dec 09 23:54 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The famous "my Windows PC got hijacked" defence... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/09/palin_hack_spyware_defence/ | Dec 09 23:59 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lawyers claim Palin hack suspect's PC had spyware • The Register .::. Size~: 30.24 KB | Dec 09 23:59 |
| schestowitz | Andrew Orlowski = obnoxious troll again. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/09/palin_hack_spyware_defence/ | Dec 09 23:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lawyers claim Palin hack suspect's PC had spyware • The Register .::. Size~: 30.24 KB | Dec 09 23:59 |
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