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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: December 14th, 2009

shreddarAll the Browser Apps would work on any one of them. Dec 14 00:00
schestowitzThat was a good documenatry... about CambodiaDec 14 00:00
schestowitzender2070: I'l use that video tomorrowDec 14 00:00
shreddarThey be like VCRs CD and DVD Players.Dec 14 00:00
schestowitzI've just posted links: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/13/drbd-in-linux/Dec 14 00:00
phIRCe-localTitle: Links 13/12/2009: More IBM Servers, DRBD in Linux | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 134.82 KBDec 14 00:00
schestowitzWith the last part of StormyDec 14 00:01
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 14 00:01
schestowitzWe said, "open source software will change the way we do business *AHEM* I mean, the way we live"Dec 14 00:02
schestowitzIt tells you somethingDec 14 00:02
schestowitzTo HP, FOSS is about money, not users :-)Dec 14 00:02
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shreddarThey'd have a portable versions and set-top-box versions.Dec 14 00:08
shreddarThey'd have little SD card slots for saving browser apps onto.Dec 14 00:09
shreddarYou could run them on the go or in the living room.Dec 14 00:10
shreddarI stores they'd sell the SD cards with browser apps already on them.Dec 14 00:11
shreddarThis would assume that people made the most unique browser apps.Dec 14 00:12
shreddarLike one to translate your dog or something.Dec 14 00:12
shreddarOr probably something useful but still unique and peticular.Dec 14 00:13
shreddarAlso, you could download them. (That's probably what mostly people would do)Dec 14 00:15
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shreddarFor the living room they'd have a alphabetical order keyboard with a  laser pointing device for the cursor. (like the Wiimote)Dec 14 00:18
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shreddarEventually speech-to-text would get good enough use that for typing into boxes.Dec 14 00:20
ziggyfishgoodmorningDec 14 00:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #xPUD 0.9.2 Works Very Well for Lesser Known Distribution of #GNU #Linux http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/review-xpud-0-9-2/Dec 14 00:21
phIRCe-localTitle: REVIEW  xPUD 0.9.2 «  OPEN BYTES  cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 39.47 KBDec 14 00:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Well thats me done for the night I think.....Can't stay up to watch TLC so I'll purchase the Sky box office repeat tomorrow... #wweDec 14 00:22
shreddarEvery device would have a TV mounted 3D microphone (like the Wiispeak device.)Dec 14 00:22
shreddarIt would just be used for voice chatting at first. Dec 14 00:24
shreddar(That alone would cause panic in the Telephone companies)Dec 14 00:24
schestowitzHey, ziggyfishDec 14 00:25
schestowitzLong time, no seeDec 14 00:25
ziggyfishlol, in holidays from work (go back on the 4th)Dec 14 00:25
ziggyfish*onDec 14 00:26
ziggyfishI was just wondering if you have heard anything from the i4i v Microsoft caseDec 14 00:27
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Gains in #China : A Look Inside http://ur1.ca/hrnr also nice: http://ur1.ca/hrnsDec 14 00:29
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phIRCe-localTitle:   Pogsons Predictions for 2010 at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 29.9 KBDec 14 00:29
shreddarAlso none of the Alphabetical Keyboard would have those Function or Meta Keys (F1-12, Alt, Ctrl Insert, Home, PageUp etc.)Dec 14 00:30
shreddarIt's just be for typing text no shortcuts or navigation arrows.Dec 14 00:31
schestowitzziggyfish: yesDec 14 00:31
schestowitzSome weeks agoDec 14 00:31
schestowitzSearch the BN DB for i4i and you'll seeDec 14 00:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Shows Greater Signs of Seriousness About Desktop Market http://ur1.ca/hrny Google too http://ur1.ca/hrnzDec 14 00:32
phIRCe-localTitle: Red Hat heads back to the desktop with SPICE - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 134.08 KBDec 14 00:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Benefits from #Linux Extend Far Beyond Desktops http://ur1.ca/hro1 Hello, DRBD http://ur1.ca/hro2Dec 14 00:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Financial Applications on #GNU #Linux : A Review http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10014616o-2000498448b,00.htmDec 14 00:33
shreddarIf wonder why my easy keyboard idea isn't used more in phones and other mobile device.Dec 14 00:33
phIRCe-localTitle: Linus Torvalds Accepts DRBD into Linux Kernel | Business Wire .::. Size~: 51.41 KBDec 14 00:33
phIRCe-localTitle: Community on ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 121.41 KBDec 14 00:33
shreddarSome of them got it but alot of them don't.Dec 14 00:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM 's #Server Initiative ( #GNU #Linux ) Far Ahead of Microsoft's http://ur1.ca/hro8 http://ur1.ca/hro9Dec 14 00:34
phIRCe-localTitle: IBM opens new cloud lab while Microsoft reorgs | Business Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 111.38 KBDec 14 00:34
schestowitzi4i is CanadianDec 14 00:34
schestowitzshreddar: or voiceDec 14 00:34
schestowitzPhones should make more use of voice dictationDec 14 00:35
schestowitzThat's where it's most handyDec 14 00:35
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schestowitzWe're getting to the point where with CPU scaling you can get enough power for it, without draining the batteriesDec 14 00:35
shreddarYeah I that what I'd think. Of course the great thing and text messaging is that no one can hear you in the theater.Dec 14 00:36
shreddar(I don't do that)Dec 14 00:36
schestowitzOh, yeah... in Canada you say theatre tooDec 14 00:37
schestowitzNot cinema...Dec 14 00:37
shreddarI think texting is more private and I'm sure the it's the same with searching the web too.Dec 14 00:40
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Tablets Show Gains http://www.pcworld.com/article/184111/digital_gear_android_tablets_charge_ahead.htmlDec 14 00:42
phIRCe-localTitle: Digital Gear: Android Tablets Charge Ahead - PC World .::. Size~: 82.53 KBDec 14 00:42
schestowitzYou can do either, shreddarDec 14 00:42
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Brain Behind #OLPC / #Sugar Explains How Latest Product Works http://ur1.ca/hroqDec 14 00:43
phIRCe-localTitle: Sugar on a Stick: What it means for e-books and education | TeleRead: Bring the E-Books Home .::. Size~: 112.76 KBDec 14 00:43
shreddarWell obviously not everyone with a cell phone cares  about privacy but I do think those that do might find speach2text nice at home.Dec 14 00:43
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Powerful Sub-notebooks to Come with #GNU #Linux Options http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/120709-atom-n450-netbooks-hit-full.htmlDec 14 00:44
schestowitzOr streetsDec 14 00:44
schestowitzThat's the featureDec 14 00:44
schestowitzVoice is good at jittery situationsDec 14 00:44
schestowitzJust as audio gets used when you do sportsDec 14 00:45
schestowitzCause you can't hold up a bookDec 14 00:45
schestowitzSometimes you can't talk and breathe heavily, eitherDec 14 00:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Colorado Chooses #FreeSoftware / #Linux for #Gateway http://ur1.ca/hrot http://ur1.ca/hrouDec 14 00:46
phIRCe-localTitle: Colorado city adopts open-source platform for its network gateway -- Government Computer News .::. Size~: 73.9 KBDec 14 00:46
phIRCe-localTitle: When integrating many tools, one size does not fit all -- Government Computer News .::. Size~: 68.75 KBDec 14 00:46
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks Increasingly Target the Web as a Platform http://ur1.ca/hroy http://ur1.ca/hrozDec 14 00:48
phIRCe-localTitle: Google's Chrome OS Aims to Speed Up Netbooks - PC World .::. Size~: 70.86 KBDec 14 00:48
phIRCe-localTitle: Netbook Operating System Jolicloud Set to Take on Google Chrome OS .::. Size~: 90.6 KBDec 14 00:48
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Firefox Mobile Just Around the Corner, Out Shortly http://ur1.ca/hrpb http://ur1.ca/hrpcDec 14 00:57
phIRCe-localTitle: Firefox mobile internet browser 'will launch in December' | #MobileMarketing | Velti Mobile Marketing News | Velti .::. Size~: 19.53 KBDec 14 00:57
phIRCe-localTitle: Mobile Firefox on approach » IT - Chuiko | Information Technology News .::. Size~: 42.56 KBDec 14 00:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] US #Government Increasingly Adopts #Transparency http://ur1.ca/hrpg http://ur1.ca/hrpiDec 14 00:58
phIRCe-localTitle: Obama Promotes New Open Government Initiative - PC World .::. Size~: 73.97 KBDec 14 00:58
phIRCe-localTitle: OSTP to Launch Public Forum to Discuss Options for Improving Public Access to Results of Federally Funded Research «  OSTP Blog .::. Size~: 108.47 KBDec 14 00:58
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CouchDB Gets Millions in Funding http://ur1.ca/hrpkDec 14 00:59
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shreddarI get it if you're jogging typing won't really work.Dec 14 01:01
shreddarThis make me wonder how far along speech2text is right now.Dec 14 01:01
shreddarI immediately start to think of an open implementation for it.Dec 14 01:03
shreddarI think if there was a royalty/license free implementation more devices would try to use it.Dec 14 01:03
schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/software/221900795;jsessionid=3FXE4I5F0J3VZQE1GHOSKHWATMY32JVNDec 14 01:05
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shreddarI'm sure they'd want it to have good algorithms.Dec 14 01:05
schestowitzwell, oiaohm is excited by 6th senseDec 14 01:06
schestowitzIt'll go Free softwareDec 14 01:06
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #Patent Bubble is Finally Bursting http://ur1.ca/hrq7 http://ur1.ca/hrqa #uspto #failDec 14 01:08
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phIRCe-localTitle: Patent Law Blog (Patently-O) .::. Size~: 343.65 KBDec 14 01:08
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rivals of #GNU #Linux Sued for #Patent Violations http://ur1.ca/hrqe http://ur1.ca/hrqfDec 14 01:09
phIRCe-localTitle: Apple getting sued again by patent profiteers .::. Size~: 105.95 KBDec 14 01:09
phIRCe-localTitle: Murky status for tech firm suing Microsoft - Boston Business Journal:  .::. Size~: 81.99 KBDec 14 01:09
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] mohanpram: @schestowitz: isn't ubuntu 9.10 using CoubhDB? If so for what? - Ubuntu One uses CouchDBDec 14 01:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Patent Frenzy Breeds #OOXML Mistrust http://ur1.ca/hrqlDec 14 01:11
phIRCe-localTitle: EC Agrees to Close DRAM Antitrust Case Against Rambus - PC World .::. Size~: 73.66 KBDec 14 01:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Bravo Justice Dhingra! RT @shamnad: "Pay up" says the Delhi High Court-Microsoft hauled up for Forum shopping http://bit.ly/8xbYhcDec 14 01:12
phIRCe-localTitle: SPICY IP: "Pay up" says the Delhi High Court-Microsoft hauled up for Forum Shopping .::. Size~: 147.98 KBDec 14 01:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Internet #Censorship Leads to Lawsuit, Loss of Rights in #China http://ur1.ca/hrqm http://ur1.ca/hrqnDec 14 01:13
phIRCe-localTitle: Law.com - Take-Down of Home Video From YouTube Site Leads to Damages Suit .::. Size~: 30.24 KBDec 14 01:13
phIRCe-localTitle: Top Ten China Myths of 2009: Letter from China : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 99.1 KBDec 14 01:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Challenged with Broader Impact in Mind http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001993Dec 14 01:14
phIRCe-localTitle: Against Monopoly  .::. Size~: 21.94 KBDec 14 01:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] We have just shown Freda "here is the church here is the steeple open the doors and there's all the people." BEST THING EVER, BETTER THAN TVDec 14 01:16
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Favoured on Sub-notebook http://www.notebooks.com/2009/12/04/amys-mobile-makeup-how-she-does-it/Dec 14 01:24
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Publicly Sucking up to Intellectual Monopolist and Maximalist http://ur1.ca/hrreDec 14 01:26
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's #Windows 98, 2000, 2003 and Windows XP Banned in #China http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bw/2009-12/07/content_9127265.htmDec 14 01:27
phIRCe-localTitle:  Court rules against Microsoft in IP case .::. Size~: 17.17 KBDec 14 01:27
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Punished in Court for Deliberately Abusing the Legal System http://ur1.ca/hrrjDec 14 01:29
phIRCe-localTitle:   Capital cost for Microsoft: court says pay up .::. Size~: 50.12 KBDec 14 01:29
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Miserable #Microsoft Does Worse Than #Google : Spies and Publishes Profiles!! http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10410340-75.htmlDec 14 01:38
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft labs tests a Wikipedia of average Joes | Microsoft - CNET News .::. Size~: 111.4 KBDec 14 01:38
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Stuck at Pathetic Market Share of 3% Versus #Google http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_13921495Dec 14 01:39
phIRCe-localTitle: Quillen: The search war escalates - The Denver Post .::. Size~: 133.14 KBDec 14 01:39
shreddarIt doesn't Sixth Sense Technology is speech to text it seems to mainly be for manipulating 3D objects and stuff.Dec 14 01:39
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Hiring New Shills Like Don Dodge http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/07/AR2009120703072.htmlDec 14 01:41
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft Looks For Don Dodge Replacement - washingtonpost.com .::. Size~: 94.17 KBDec 14 01:41
shreddarhttp://www.blendernation.com/sixth-sense-technology/Dec 14 01:41
phIRCe-localTitle: Sixth Sense Technology | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 52.39 KBDec 14 01:41
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Gains in #NewZealand Amid #Microsoft Exodus http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/3155595/Open-source-making-its-mark-in-NZDec 14 01:42
phIRCe-localTitle: Open source making its mark in NZ - technology | Stuff.co.nz .::. Size~: 47.45 KBDec 14 01:42
shreddarSill very cool though.Dec 14 01:42
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Customers Abandon #Microsoft Product That Ran Out of Money [Pun] http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2357030,00.aspDec 14 01:43
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trmancohttp://identi.ca/notice/16690377Dec 14 01:44
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ender2070chromium is niceDec 14 01:54
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DaemonFCMac Mini with Snow Leopard ServerDec 14 02:07
DaemonFCthat's funnyDec 14 02:07
schestowitzYou'd have to be a moron or a fanboy to buy servers from AppleDec 14 02:12
ender2070lolDec 14 02:16
schestowitz> I have yet to judge the Twitter service, other than to note that it's being Dec 14 02:18
schestowitz> abused by all the usual PR suspects and that the format is particularly well Dec 14 02:18
schestowitz> suited for that kind of abuse.  When it's all you've got, it's what you have Dec 14 02:18
schestowitz> to use.  Slimy people must love the false sense of openness they can claim by Dec 14 02:18
schestowitz> using it.  Dec 14 02:18
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @thistleweb oh, beat me to it!Dec 14 02:24
trmancohttp://identi.ca/notice/16692149Dec 14 02:27
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @derp: http://j.mp/5fI7P6 some more de icaza trolling to make the blood boil :) #fsf #gnu #libreplanet #linuxDec 14 03:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Mini quotes | kdedevelopers.org .::. Size~: 14.89 KBDec 14 03:36
ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/f12/chromium.pngDec 14 03:37
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DaemonFCender2070, So if I go into Canada and provoke a police officer, your country is corrupt and the charges are bogusDec 14 03:59
DaemonFC:)Dec 14 03:59
DaemonFCand if I resist arrest and get pepper sprayed, I was "savagely beaten"Dec 14 03:59
DaemonFCI see an egotistical person trying to minimize and deny wrongdoingDec 14 04:01
DaemonFCand a few people that seem to believe himDec 14 04:01
ender2070your country did thatDec 14 04:09
DaemonFChe provoked the policeDec 14 04:09
DaemonFCprobably got everything he deservesDec 14 04:09
ender2070he asked them what they were doingDec 14 04:09
DaemonFChis storyDec 14 04:10
ender2070his "assulting a police officer" was by him hitting the officers hand with his faceDec 14 04:10
DaemonFChe probably shouted at them and threatened themDec 14 04:10
ender2070any verbal thing he said is legalDec 14 04:10
DaemonFCno it's notDec 14 04:11
ender2070you don't have a first amendment?Dec 14 04:11
DaemonFCyou can't just fly off the hinges at a police officerDec 14 04:11
ender2070sadDec 14 04:11
ender2070I thought your country still had freedom of speechDec 14 04:11
ender2070I guess it is tyranny nowDec 14 04:11
ender2070I'll NEVER set foot thereDec 14 04:11
DaemonFCif you make someone feel that they're really about to be attacked, your free speech should and does end thereDec 14 04:12
ender2070shut the fuck upDec 14 04:12
ender2070go to chinaDec 14 04:12
ender2070thats how things go thereDec 14 04:12
DaemonFCmouth off at me and act like you're about to attack meDec 14 04:12
DaemonFCand see what happensDec 14 04:12
ender2070I have to actually attack you, to be guilty of itDec 14 04:12
ender2070otherwise any cop can say the guy was "going" to attack themDec 14 04:13
ender2070simply by not being blindly obedientDec 14 04:13
DaemonFCif you come running at me or start waving your fist around, that's reason enoughDec 14 04:13
ender2070according to witnesses this did not occurDec 14 04:13
DaemonFCdo you have to shoot a police officer before they can stop you from shooting another one?Dec 14 04:14
ender2070so stop talking out of your ass and go move to facist-ville where your opinions are toleratedDec 14 04:14
DaemonFCwhat happens when you wave a gun around at an officer?Dec 14 04:14
ender2070did he wave a gun? noDec 14 04:14
ender2070he asked what they were doingDec 14 04:14
ender2070they told him to shut up and get back in his carDec 14 04:14
DaemonFCI don't believe soDec 14 04:14
ender2070they denied him a lawyerDec 14 04:14
ender2070they tried to get him to waive his rights twiceDec 14 04:14
DaemonFCthey don't have to give you access to a lawyer immediatelyDec 14 04:14
ender2070so shut the fuck upDec 14 04:14
ender2070yes they doDec 14 04:15
DaemonFCyou have the right to not speak to them until you are present with lawyerDec 14 04:15
ender2070you have the right to remain silent until you see your lawyerDec 14 04:15
DaemonFCno they don'tDec 14 04:15
DaemonFCyeah, they don't have to just march in a lawyer the moment you say soDec 14 04:15
DaemonFCsit your ass down and waitDec 14 04:15
ender2070they also took all his stuff and threw him half naked into a winter stormDec 14 04:15
DaemonFCthat's funnyDec 14 04:16
ender2070thats corruptDec 14 04:16
ender2070inhumaneDec 14 04:16
DaemonFCI would prefer they had stripped naked and thrown into a winter storm 100 miles from civilizationDec 14 04:16
ender2070thats because you are a facist prickDec 14 04:17
DaemonFCthat's how he's trying to exaggerate itDec 14 04:17
ender2070kind hard to exaggerate being thrown in the snow without a jacketDec 14 04:17
DaemonFChe's making up his side of the storyDec 14 04:17
DaemonFCand tht's all it isDec 14 04:17
ender2070so you're slandering himDec 14 04:17
DaemonFChe's lying to gain sympathyDec 14 04:18
ender2070lolDec 14 04:18
DaemonFCand money donationsDec 14 04:18
ender2070i'd be tempted to take his side of the storyDec 14 04:18
ender2070over your corrupt cops storyDec 14 04:18
ender2070there are so many instances of corruption in american police its naive of you to take their sideDec 14 04:18
DaemonFCnot reallyDec 14 04:18
ender2070yes reallyDec 14 04:19
DaemonFCit's liberals that want to give the criminals more rights than law abiding peopleDec 14 04:19
DaemonFCthat's the problemDec 14 04:19
ender2070oh your a right wingerDec 14 04:19
ender2070lolDec 14 04:19
DaemonFCnoDec 14 04:19
ender2070you take the cops side no matter whatDec 14 04:19
DaemonFCliberals are always trying to give criminals more rightsDec 14 04:19
ender2070if they beat someone to death, you would agree witht hemDec 14 04:19
DaemonFCit's what they doDec 14 04:19
ender2070hes not a criminal for standing up for his rightsDec 14 04:20
DaemonFCliberals always try to get softer punishments and more privileges, that leads to decriminalization efforts for felony crimesDec 14 04:20
DaemonFChe's likely guilty and bitching about having to face a fair trialDec 14 04:21
ender2070you support the death penaltyDec 14 04:21
ender2070you're already inhumaneDec 14 04:21
DaemonFClike everyone that gets arrestedDec 14 04:21
ender2070he was treated inhumanelyDec 14 04:21
ender2070it happensDec 14 04:21
DaemonFCcriminals don't want to face trial because they're worried they'll be found outDec 14 04:21
DaemonFCthey want to avoid being punished, so it's always the fault of the policeDec 14 04:22
ender2070you know he can simply not show up right?Dec 14 04:22
DaemonFCthe police are always making shit upDec 14 04:22
ender2070hes in canada right nowDec 14 04:22
DaemonFCextradition?Dec 14 04:22
ender2070the police often make shit upDec 14 04:22
ender2070extradition, lolDec 14 04:22
ender2070juristiction :PDec 14 04:22
DaemonFCwe don't shelter Canadian fugitivesDec 14 04:22
DaemonFCso we must have some kind of treatyDec 14 04:23
ender2070he is in Canada right nowDec 14 04:23
ender2070dumbassDec 14 04:23
DaemonFCdoesn't matterDec 14 04:23
ender2070the story already hit canadian news papersDec 14 04:23
DaemonFChe'll get deported right?Dec 14 04:23
ender2070we won't send himDec 14 04:23
ender2070we don't HAVE toDec 14 04:23
ender2070our government may be pressured to protect himDec 14 04:23
ender2070i've already written to my MPDec 14 04:23
DaemonFChe wouldn't be worried about it if he could just hide and flee justice in CanadaDec 14 04:23
ender2070he could still be extradited, no reason not to be preparedDec 14 04:24
DaemonFCright, if he could just be a harbored fugitive, guaranteed to never face justice, he would not be scaredDec 14 04:25
ender2070I think i'll donate money to his cause, just to fight your corrupt justice systemDec 14 04:25
DaemonFCor trying to make up storiesDec 14 04:25
ender2070there are no guaranteesDec 14 04:25
ender2070our government might bow down to your corrupt governmentDec 14 04:25
ender2070you might war with us since we have oilDec 14 04:26
DaemonFCI hope he does get sentenced to one of the less pleasant penal facilitiesDec 14 04:26
DaemonFC:)Dec 14 04:26
ender2070he won't serve time in US if thats what you thinkDec 14 04:26
DaemonFCCanada would have its military infrastructure neutralized faster than Iraq'sDec 14 04:26
DaemonFCif that was the only issue, we could have done it already :)Dec 14 04:27
ender2070we would turn off your radars, dumbassDec 14 04:27
ender2070the ENTIRE world would go against you tooDec 14 04:27
ender2070USA is land of the corrupt, home of the corporationDec 14 04:27
DaemonFCthere's really no threat to us from CanadaDec 14 04:28
ender2070we dont pick warsDec 14 04:28
ender2070name one we startedDec 14 04:28
ender2070i can name many your country hasDec 14 04:28
ender2070last war we had with USA, we kicked your asses and burned down the white houseDec 14 04:28
DaemonFCthat was a long time agoDec 14 04:29
ender2070Canada 1, USA 0Dec 14 04:29
DaemonFCyou wouldn't want to try it again Dec 14 04:29
ender2070we wouldntDec 14 04:29
ender2070we dont start warsDec 14 04:29
ender2070we're not trying to take over the worldDec 14 04:29
ender2070we're not trying to steal oil from other countriesDec 14 04:29
DaemonFCwe haven'tDec 14 04:30
ender2070and we dont remove democratically elected leaders and replace them with dicatorsDec 14 04:30
DaemonFCwho cares?Dec 14 04:30
ender2070the worldDec 14 04:30
ender2070your country is fucked upDec 14 04:30
DaemonFCif the people in those countries wanted their government changed, it would changeDec 14 04:31
DaemonFCthey're too worried about saving themselves and their own interestsDec 14 04:31
ender2070I don't know why I argue with you, you're too stupid to form a rational argument. You've been brainwashed hardcore by the system.Dec 14 04:32
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Everyone should watch this -- Phase 3 pt.8 (The Holy Land) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KImXLWOfWi0Dec 14 06:12
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cubezzzhahahahaDec 14 06:43
cubezzzLINE PIECE!!!Dec 14 06:43
cubezzzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOSdHFXdU8Dec 14 06:43
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Open Colour Standard: free/open alternative to Pantone http://ur1.ca/hs6zDec 14 06:46
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] How Monsanto owns and manipulates the world's food supply http://ur1.ca/hs74Dec 14 06:46
phIRCe-localTitle: Open Colour Standard: free/open alternative to Pantone Boing Boing .::. Size~: 34.01 KBDec 14 06:46
phIRCe-localTitle: How Monsanto owns and manipulates the world's food supply Boing Boing .::. Size~: 39.86 KBDec 14 06:46
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Everyone must watch this!! -- Phase 3 pt.9 (The Difference between Judaism & Zionism) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7OlCcZSkPEDec 14 07:00
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joseschestowitz, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8855598 this is one of the sites repeating the AP articleDec 14 07:18
josealso http://finance.yahoo.com/news/AP-INVESTIGATION-Monsanto-apf-1335374142.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode=Dec 14 07:18
phIRCe-localTitle: AP INVESTIGATION: Monsanto seed biz role revealed - Yahoo! Finance .::. Size~: 102.79 KBDec 14 07:18
jose>> Confidential contracts detailing Monsanto Co.'s business practices reveal how the world's biggest seed developer is squeezing competitors, controlling smaller seed companies and protecting its dominance over the multibillion-dollar market for genetically altered crops, an Associated Press investigation has found.Dec 14 07:19
joseI can't believe we would allow people to play with food this wayDec 14 07:19
joseonly possible because of patents on genes.Dec 14 07:19
jose -- you can likely only get protection from devastating X if you use our genes. and we won't allow you to do this unless you do Y (including paying no one else for genes except us and ....)Dec 14 07:22
jose...devastating disease XDec 14 07:22
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josethe us doesn't allow monopolies to leverage into new markets (supposedly), but there certainly seems to be arguments that at least in some areas, monopolies (or certain types of contract terms from large vendors) should never be legal.Dec 14 07:25
jose..in the first placeDec 14 07:26
josemonopoly --> meaning controlling market share.. eg, play the board game monopoly to get a very good idea of how difficult it is to turn the tide once you reach a certain point where one player has enough ownershipDec 14 07:27
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Ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=460Dec 14 07:31
phIRCe-localTitle: Pwnage.ca » Mono claims unequivically refuted .::. Size~: 18.22 KBDec 14 07:31
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MinceRwell, they happily allowed m$ to leverage into new marketsDec 14 07:33
MinceR(IE, for example)Dec 14 07:33
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DaemonFCblame Bill Clinton's Attorney General over the US v. Microsoft caseDec 14 07:51
DaemonFCI don't think it was pursued as much as possibleDec 14 07:51
DaemonFCI think they only heard it because of various state government complaintsDec 14 07:51
MinceRnone of the m$ antitrust cases were pursued as much as necessary or possibleDec 14 07:53
MinceRif they were, there would be no m$ todayDec 14 07:53
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cubezzzI have to blame Microsoft's competitors to a certain degree as wellDec 14 08:01
cubezzzit took a grass roots movement to turn the tideDec 14 08:02
Ender2070I laugh at Opera thoughDec 14 08:03
Ender2070what a pathetic companyDec 14 08:03
cubezzzwhy do you say that?Dec 14 08:03
Ender2070well for one they used to sell their browserDec 14 08:05
Ender2070they wonder why they have 1% market shareDec 14 08:05
Ender2070LOLDec 14 08:05
Ender2070firefox came out of nowhere and wtfpwned them brutallyDec 14 08:05
Ender2070the thing is, i used to like themDec 14 08:05
Ender2070even recentlyDec 14 08:05
Ender2070then they suggested linux have a browser ballot tooDec 14 08:06
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cubezzzHåkon Wium Lie had some good ideas thoughDec 14 08:08
Ender2070if they want that on linux they'll need to free their softwareDec 14 08:08
Ender2070nobody wants to make their distro non-free in the fsf's eyes by advertising unethical non-free softwareDec 14 08:08
Ender2070this literally would be advertising too, not advertising by assosiation of being in the repoDec 14 08:09
cubezzzI'm happy with firefoxDec 14 08:09
cubezzzI use lynx and firefox and that's itDec 14 08:10
Ender2070im sure nobody wants to license opera for distribution eitehrDec 14 08:10
Ender2070either*Dec 14 08:10
cubezzzSharp didDec 14 08:10
Ender2070im meaning for a gnu/linux distroDec 14 08:10
cubezzzuh, yeah, sharp zaurus runs gnu/linux :)Dec 14 08:11
Ender2070even with a ballot im sure they would have to ask opera for permission for each releaseDec 14 08:11
cubezzzcame pre-installedDec 14 08:11
Ender2070im sure they asked operaDec 14 08:11
Ender2070opera failed in my eyes, firefox came out of nowhere and beat itDec 14 08:11
Ender2070can't compete with free/libre softwareDec 14 08:11
cubezzzI didn't like browsing on the tiny screen thoughDec 14 08:11
Ender2070i used to like opera, dont get me wrongDec 14 08:13
Ender2070they failed to evolve like everyone elseDec 14 08:13
Ender2070now I consider them obsoleteDec 14 08:14
Ender2070I once asked in their forums if they would make an standards compliant html editor so they can help push standardsDec 14 08:15
Ender2070since they were so adamantDec 14 08:15
Ender2070they recommended people to buy expensive adobe productsDec 14 08:16
Ender2070it seems they complain about standards so much just for attentionDec 14 08:16
cubezzzdid you know there's a computer museum in Brantford?Dec 14 08:17
Ender2070"none of your favorite sites work, its cause they dont follow standards like us" but thats bs, standards should be pushed  I agree but not at the expense of having a working browserDec 14 08:17
cubezzzwww.pcmuseum.caDec 14 08:17
Ender2070firefox supports both standards, and common mistakes. the best of both worlds.Dec 14 08:18
Ender2070interesting pcmuseumDec 14 08:18
cubezzzI wonder how close Brantford is to Oshawa Dec 14 08:20
cubezzzor TorontoDec 14 08:20
Ender2070126 kmDec 14 08:21
Ender2070http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Toronto&daddr=Brantford&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=43.139414,-80.263629&sspn=0.08192,0.181789&g=Brantford&ie=UTF8&z=10Dec 14 08:22
phIRCe-localTitle: Toronto, ON to Brantford, ON - Google Maps .::. Size~: 105.56 KBDec 14 08:22
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Ender2070164 km from OshawaDec 14 08:23
Ender2070http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Oshawa&daddr=Brantford&hl=en&geocode=%3BFVZBkgIdM0Y3-ykPc-p44mUsiDHg-WakpaU9NQ&mra=ls&sll=43.40482,-79.819845&sspn=0.652505,1.454315&ie=UTF8&z=9Dec 14 08:23
phIRCe-localTitle: Oshawa, ON to Brantford, ON - Google Maps .::. Size~: 108.77 KBDec 14 08:23
cubezzzhmm, pretty far away actuallyDec 14 08:23
cubezzzhttp://labrats.tvDec 14 08:30
phIRCe-localTitle: Lab Rats! A vidcast about technology you already own. .::. Size~: 12.01 KBDec 14 08:30
cubezzztalks about the new kindleDec 14 08:30
cubezzzCanadian showDec 14 08:32
cubezzzno Go to BrantfordDec 14 08:32
Ender2070ahhDec 14 08:38
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ender2070http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=9082Dec 14 08:49
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schestowitz> http://slashdot.org/submission/975939/M-Funds-Publishers-Lawsuits-Vrs-Google-Books?art_pos=46Dec 14 08:51
schestowitz> Dec 14 08:51
phIRCe-localTitle: Slashdot Submission | M$ Funds Publisher's Lawsuits Vrs Google Books .::. Size~: 49.28 KBDec 14 08:51
schestowitz> Did you know that Microsoft was funding book publisher's lawsuits against Dec 14 08:51
schestowitz> Google books?  That's good background information in the latest Google News Dec 14 08:51
schestowitz> attack.  Again and again, Microsoft has gotten away with blatant disregard Dec 14 08:51
schestowitz> for anti-trust laws.  These collusions are criminal.  Dec 14 08:51
schestowitzGood programme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmUaZpr6oVc&NR=1&feature=fvwpDec 14 09:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @manoharban: VERY SAD, ANGRY... Chattisgarh state is terrorizing peaceful activists in Dantewada, preventing entry of outside activists.Dec 14 09:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @eduvid: The definitive guide to open source hardware projects in 2009 #foss #hardware http://tinyurl.com/ybkl256Dec 14 09:07
phIRCe-localTitle: Make: Online : Open source hardware 2009 - The definitive guide to open source hardware projects in 2009 .::. Size~: 112.01 KBDec 14 09:07
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] "If you hold GSM patent licenses, you cannot redistribute OpenBTS under GPLv3.": http://i5.be/2lDec 14 09:15
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates-Backed Company Accused of #Monopoly Abuse and Investigated http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/gates-and-monsanto-investigation/Dec 14 09:43
phIRCe-localTitle: Gates-Backed Company Accused of Monopoly Abuse and Investigated | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 103.69 KBDec 14 09:43
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: Monsoft or Microsanto? - http://bit.ly/5NB6UH Monsanto becomes ever-more like Microsoft #monsanto #microsoft #patents #antitrDec 14 09:46
phIRCe-localTitle: open...: Monsoft or Microsanto? .::. Size~: 96.89 KBDec 14 09:46
cubezzzduh going to init 1 killed sshDec 14 09:51
cubezzzhrmmphDec 14 09:51
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Former #Novell Employee Sees No Turnaround http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/novell-and-issue-of-mono-revisited/Dec 14 10:03
phIRCe-localTitle: Another Former Novell Employee Sees No Turnaround | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 100.02 KBDec 14 10:03
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Moglen: "Oracle should upgrade the license of MySQL to GPLv3" http://i5.be/2mDec 14 10:11
phIRCe-localTitle: Freedom Now .::. Size~: 24.01 KBDec 14 10:11
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @cjpkar: 39 women heading back to Raipur since their entry to Dantewada was stalled, but their bus tyres punctured by miscreants.Dec 14 10:19
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @cjpkar: Padayatra in Dantewada stalled by local goons and police. All roads blocked by felling trees and preventing entry of supportersDec 14 10:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Looking to Hire a New #Shill http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/shill-job-opening-waiting-at-msft/Dec 14 10:23
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft is Looking to Hire a New Shill | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 100.03 KBDec 14 10:23
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aslam: RT @malini_aisola: WIPO #SCCR-19 takes off with an Information Meeting on Limitations and Exceptions for Educational ActivitiesDec 14 10:26
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Nobody Gets Fired for Avoiding #Microsoft http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/ms-money-getting-the-chop/Dec 14 10:44
phIRCe-localTitle: Nobody Gets Fired for Avoiding Microsoft | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 98.07 KBDec 14 10:44
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Don’t Mention the L Word! http://ur1.ca/ht0l Microsoft gets enormously jealous of the competitionDec 14 11:12
phIRCe-localTitle: Dont Mention the L Word! | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 99.32 KBDec 14 11:12
cubezzzmaybe Eric Holder will go after MicrosoftDec 14 11:21
oiaohmNone of them can see a way for novel to turn around I 100 percent can.Dec 14 11:31
oiaohmWhat happens in 2 years if MS does not renew the patent deal that protects mono.Dec 14 11:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft RMS Denies Access to People’s Own Documents http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/barred-from-office-files/Dec 14 11:37
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cubezzzwow, found some awesome new scansDec 14 11:46
cubezzzlooks like they rescanned some of the pictures at higher resDec 14 11:48
cubezzz3000x2100 Dec 14 11:49
cubezzzlooks like I can't download any more scans thoughDec 14 11:52
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Hides Its Own Flaws, Cheats Customers http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/microsoft-cheats-on-patches-issued/ #securityDec 14 11:59
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft Hides Its Own Flaws, Cheats Customers | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 102.51 KBDec 14 11:59
schestowitzoiaohm: I wonder the same...Dec 14 12:24
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wallc_http://bkhome.org/woof/index.html  Scroll down to the "Solution" heading to read about "Woof"Dec 14 12:37
phIRCe-localTitle: Woof the puppy linux builder .::. Size~: 15.34 KBDec 14 12:37
wallc_"The design of Woof is intended to be so flexible that packages from any distro can be processed. At the time of writing Woof is supporting Debian, Ubuntu, Slackware, Arch, T2 and Puppy. I am considering adding one of the RPM-based distros."Dec 14 12:38
wallc_...I think it looks interesting.Dec 14 12:38
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Omar87Hi everyone.Dec 14 12:51
oiaohmHi Omar87Dec 14 12:54
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @thecomicproject: #Fakingnews IPWO virus (Indian Parliament WalkOut Virus) affects developing nations at Copenhagen.Dec 14 12:54
Omar87oiaohm: heyDec 14 12:54
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Makes #Vista7 More Expensive and Starts Forcing Users to Migrate http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/windows-and-xbox-sad-truth/Dec 14 12:59
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft Makes Vista 7 More Expensive and Starts Forcing Users to Migrate | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 112.43 KBDec 14 12:59
MinceRthe softpedia article quoted earlier on how vista7 phones home contains lies about how m$ is trustworthy in privacy issuesDec 14 13:10
MinceRthey even end the quote from the privacy policy before a particularly damning sentenceDec 14 13:11
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Moves to #Reno to Avoid Regular #Tax and to #India to Avoid Regular Salaries http://ur1.ca/htkfDec 14 13:22
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oiaohmhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/microsoft-moves-to-profit/  Hmm already has a counter comment.  Dec 14 13:52
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft Moves to Reno to Avoid Regular Tax and to India to Avoid Regular Salaries | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 104.94 KBDec 14 13:52
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @_kartik: I'm going to hunger strike for my own 'state' of mind. Please DND!Dec 14 14:09
schestowitzoiaohm, that's mutexDec 14 14:11
schestowitzOh, he's foneDec 14 14:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended' - http://bit.ly/7ITrWo 's OK: we'll just ask climate change to wait #cop09Dec 14 14:12
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC News - Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended' .::. Size~: 65.73 KBDec 14 14:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @deepakurup: 135 nation reps walk out. Demand that rich nations deepen cuts in emissions. Deadlock? The Hindu: http://bit.ly/6KYZ49Dec 14 14:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Lobby Roundup: Software Patents, Attack on Sun, #Environment Lies... http://ur1.ca/htnsDec 14 14:13
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trmancohttp://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Oracle-Corporation-NASDAQ-ORCL-1090000.htmlDec 14 14:22
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ender2070[06:31] [Notice] -BNc to #boycottnovell- [schestowitz] #Microsoft RMS Denies Access to People’s Own Documents  http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/barred-from-office-files/ - Sounds Like Richard Stallman is being blamedDec 14 14:31
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ender2070you might want to fix thatDec 14 14:32
schestowitztrmanco: niceDec 14 14:35
schestowitzender2070: no, it's a jokeDec 14 14:36
schestowitzMicrosoft hijacked "RMS"Dec 14 14:36
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MinceRthen you could refrain from helping them hijacking it by not abbreviating thatDec 14 14:52
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jose_Xschestowitz (hi), I found this link http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/11/27/germany-considers-google-analytics-ban/#Dec 14 14:58
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jose_Xwithin this long thread http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/12/if_you_have_nothing.htmlDec 14 14:58
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amarsh04hi jose_X, long time no seeDec 14 14:58
jose_XAsa must have been nuts to recommend bing; however, points about google were fairDec 14 14:58
jose_Xyeah, will have to send you a picture some timeDec 14 14:59
jose_Xseriously, i try to avoid chat if i don't have a good reason or someone else wants specifically to talkDec 14 14:59
amarsh04that's fine... I do appreciate your comments in linuxtoday.com when I finally get around to catching up thereDec 14 15:00
jose_Xthanks, i do post there a lotDec 14 15:00
ender2070Asa uses google analyticsDec 14 15:01
jose_Xeg, i avoided posting on a mono thread some days back..Dec 14 15:01
amarsh04back in a few, must try new grub2 just released into Debian unstable i386Dec 14 15:01
ender2070hypocrite detectorDec 14 15:01
jose_Xbut ultimately yielded to temptation because of the repetition that in a patented world, mono is no worse than any other piece of softwareDec 14 15:01
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Sued for Sidekick Disaster, Fined for Using “Money Power” to “Harass” Defendants http://ur1.ca/htqsDec 14 15:02
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jose_Xender2070, that was pointed out in that threadDec 14 15:02
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jose_Xthis link is old but was also mentioned in defense of google (at least in contrast to microsoft): http://google-blog.dirson.com/federal-subpoena/Dec 14 15:03
phIRCe-localTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBDec 14 15:03
jose_Xit was when google did not acquiesce to the us gov's query right away.. in contrast to ms and yahoo.Dec 14 15:04
jose_Xin 2006 i think it saidDec 14 15:04
jose_Xbtw, someone mentioned that if you use tor, google searching gives you a hard time (captcha, etc)Dec 14 15:05
jose_Xit makes sense for them to defend against bots.. in any case, js and cookies can be shut offDec 14 15:05
jose_Xin contrast, i have never been able to shut off windows when googling from windows (not that this is a frequent event).Dec 14 15:06
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple and #Microsoft Extremely Busy with Patents as the #Patent Bubble Finally Bursts http://ur1.ca/httcDec 14 15:35
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] சற்று முன் காதில் கேட்ட செய்தி: திருச்செந்தூரில் ஒரு ஓட்டின் விலை எதிர்கட்சி ரூ.2000 + ஒரு செல்போன். ஆளுங்கட்சி ரூ 1000. என்ன கொடும :(Dec 14 15:41
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*Ender2070 loves toasters studelsDec 14 15:43
Ender2070strudels*Dec 14 15:43
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schestowitzThe server seems to hang sometimesDec 14 15:48
schestowitzLike now...Dec 14 15:48
schestowitzMaybe a connectivity issue, I reckon..Dec 14 15:48
Ender2070I made a BN toasters strudelDec 14 15:58
Ender2070:)Dec 14 15:58
schestowitzWOT WOT WOT?/Dec 14 16:07
Ender2070ever heard of a toasters strudel?Dec 14 16:08
Ender2070its like a pop tart, but flakey, and you can put your own icing onDec 14 16:09
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Ender2070anyways, the I spelled out "Boycott Novell" with the icingDec 14 16:18
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] BSNL loses market share http://beta.thehindu.com/business/article65194.ece <- BSNL needs to wake up. Fix your fscking customer care first!Dec 14 16:26
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schestowitzEnder2070: I just know strudel...Dec 14 16:28
schestowitzOh, that.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toaster_StrudelDec 14 16:29
phIRCe-localTitle: Toaster Strudel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 22.41 KBDec 14 16:29
schestowitzI thought you have cooked a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strudel in your toasterDec 14 16:29
phIRCe-localTitle: Strudel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 32.37 KBDec 14 16:29
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] American #EDGI Comes to #Missouri , #Microsoft Crimes in #Iowa Produce Coupons http://ur1.ca/htxdDec 14 16:31
Omar87Anyone used Webfaction here?Dec 14 16:31
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @fish_pond: Corporations Out of My Hair! or ‘Mairay Pochchu!’ http://bit.ly/7DUJxf #savebeardindiaDec 14 16:33
phIRCe-localTitle: Corporations Out of My Hair!  or ‘Mairay Pochchu!’  | The Fish Pond .::. Size~: 71.68 KBDec 14 16:33
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Warzone Tower Defense, competitor to the Desktop Tower Defense throne http://ur1.ca/htxxDec 14 16:36
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] political implications of #savebeardindia if hair declared as a fuel http://bit.ly/7DUJxfDec 14 16:38
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Poorer Children More Likely To Get Antipsychotics http://ur1.ca/hty8Dec 14 16:41
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Secret Copyright Treaty Timeline Shows Global DMCA http://ur1.ca/htyaDec 14 16:41
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @lwnnet: Best Buy, Samsung, And Westinghouse Named In SFLC Suit Today http://lwn.net/Articles/366467/rssDec 14 16:41
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phIRCe-localTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Secret Copyright Treaty Timeline Shows Global DMCA .::. Size~: 76.75 KBDec 14 16:41
phIRCe-localTitle: Best Buy, Samsung, And Westinghouse Named In SFLC Suit Today  [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 6.36 KBDec 14 16:41
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Ender2070schestowitz - :)Dec 14 17:19
schestowitzHeyDec 14 17:30
schestowitzI've just caught upDec 14 17:30
schestowitzMany posts today... some long ones tooDec 14 17:30
schestowitzNowhere near my record of 27/dayDec 14 17:30
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satiperaWho is the dev responsible for chunk fs?Dec 14 17:39
Ender2070this is why wireless encryption is laughableDec 14 17:41
Ender2070http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/12/14/google-exploring-quantum-computing/Dec 14 17:41
phIRCe-localTitle: Google Exploring Quantum Computing « Data Center Knowledge .::. Size~: 70.86 KBDec 14 17:41
Ender2070quantum computers, coming soon in our lifetimeDec 14 17:41
satiperanot with the way global warming is goingDec 14 17:41
Ender2070fake global warmingDec 14 17:42
satiperalolDec 14 17:42
satiperaSo does anyone know who is esponible for chunk fs?Dec 14 17:43
satiperarDec 14 17:43
Ender2070besides, the computational power of quantum computers will solve a lot of problemsDec 14 17:43
Ender2070unless it becomes self awareDec 14 17:43
schestowitzOK, done for todayDec 14 17:45
satiperaI will start to wory when daily mail reades become self awareDec 14 17:46
schestowitzJust 15 posts thoughDec 14 17:46
Omar87Anyone here knows a good cheap domain name registrar?Dec 14 17:46
schestowitz[don't say godaddy... please don't!Dec 14 17:46
satiperaI will look it up.Dec 14 17:46
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Omar87schestowitz: [no, of course I won't] :)Dec 14 17:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google is Still Crushing #Microsoft , Sometimes with #GNU and #Linux http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/goog-throws-chairs-at-microsoft/Dec 14 17:49
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Omar87schestowitz: did you use webfaction?Dec 14 17:49
schestowitzLora Bentley feeds ENderle. http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/mozilla-community-dev-director-urges-switch-to-microsofts-bing/?cs=38105Dec 14 17:52
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schestowitzOmar87: noDec 14 17:52
schestowitzvhttp://www.ciol.com/Developer/Operating-System/Feature/Attacks-on-Windows-7-to-rise-in-10-Lavasoft/141209128942/0/Dec 14 17:53
schestowitzhttp://blogs.pcmag.com/miller/2009/12/is_larrabee_dead.phpDec 14 17:53
phIRCe-localTitle: Is Larrabee Dead?:  The Tangled Future of CPUs and GPUs - Forward Thinking by Michael J. Miller .::. Size~: 55.54 KBDec 14 17:53
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8412035.stmDec 14 17:55
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 87.15 KBDec 14 17:55
Omar87Anyone tried 4domains.com?Dec 14 17:56
trmanconoDec 14 18:06
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566045/apple-cent-market-shareDec 14 18:08
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schestowitzDell helpdesk shows woman her own breasts  http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566011/dell-helpdesk-woman-breastsDec 14 18:12
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 14 18:12
schestowitzShe should make/take  shirtless photos if she doesn't want them sharedDec 14 18:13
schestowitzHow many girls/guys have found out their former partner leaking their 'private' videos/photos?Dec 14 18:13
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/14/google-pushes-chrome-with-newspaper-adsDec 14 18:14
phIRCe-localTitle: Google Pushes Chrome With Newspaper Ads | WebProNews .::. Size~: 31.64 KBDec 14 18:14
schestowitzFirefox's turnDec 14 18:14
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schestowitzhttp://100kw-sgss.org/castoven/Dec 14 18:15
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/13/the_googlephone_exists/Dec 14 18:17
phIRCe-localTitle: Google contradicts self, confirms own Googlephone • The Register .::. Size~: 33.47 KBDec 14 18:17
schestowitzGoogle does a lot of poker faceDec 14 18:17
schestowitzvery dishonest sometimesDec 14 18:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Watch a film while cooking? http://100kw-sgss.org/castoven/Dec 14 18:20
phIRCe-localTitle: 100kw & sgss » CastOven » Future microwave oven turns waiting time to fun .::. Size~: 4.54 KBDec 14 18:20
schestowitzIs this symbian? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/12/14/sony_ericsson_green_phones/Dec 14 18:27
phIRCe-localTitle: Sony Ericsson intros tree-themed eco phones • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 22.88 KBDec 14 18:27
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-releases-Ubuntu-10-04-LTS-Alpha-1-882213.htmlDec 14 18:37
phIRCe-localTitle: Canonical releases Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Alpha 1 - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.23 KBDec 14 18:37
schestowitzReleases of Ubuntu receive more hype than LinuxDec 14 18:37
schestowitzEven though Linux is *FAR* more widely deployedDec 14 18:38
cubezzzUbuntu is LinuxDec 14 18:38
cubezzzI'm wondering when you say "I am very concerned about what Rockefeller and Gates are up to because it seems somewhat nationalist and selfish"Dec 14 18:41
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/wise_launch/Dec 14 18:41
phIRCe-localTitle: NASA's WISE heads skywards • The Register .::. Size~: 29.16 KBDec 14 18:41
schestowitzcubezzz: it's not. It uses itDec 14 18:41
cubezzzwhich Rockefeller are you talking about?Dec 14 18:41
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schestowitzcubezzz: FoundationDec 14 18:41
cubezzzokDec 14 18:41
schestowitzThey gets branched off, like RothschildDec 14 18:42
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schestowitzHey, neigborleeDec 14 18:42
schestowitzLong time no seeDec 14 18:42
neigborleeglad ya missed meDec 14 18:42
schestowitzI wonder where you wentDec 14 18:42
neigborleewellDec 14 18:42
neigborleelifeDec 14 18:42
neigborlee:)Dec 14 18:42
schestowitzit also cross my mind when I watched 3 Carpenters documentariesDec 14 18:42
neigborleeLOLDec 14 18:43
neigborleeyes,,Dec 14 18:43
schestowitzI went passed a fewDec 14 18:43
schestowitzOther singers tooDec 14 18:43
neigborleethis time of year is special to me, in part for karen's amazing christmas voice ;)Dec 14 18:43
neigborleesome im sure find that lame,,but then hey we can't all have the same likes :))Dec 14 18:43
schestowitzThis YouTube thing... there's a lot of stuff in that thingDec 14 18:43
neigborleesure is yesDec 14 18:43
schestowitzWell, you've probably seen all the programmes about them, but anyway...Dec 14 18:44
neigborleeim still seeing amazing nonsense on ubuntu's forums, so inpart that fueled my  curiosity to see whats going on on the mono frontDec 14 18:44
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neigborleethe same disinformation as it wereDec 14 18:44
schestowitzThe ones I watched each give another angle so it's weirdDec 14 18:44
neigborleeI have prob. seen them all yesDec 14 18:44
schestowitzYou can tell totally different stories based on choices of focus and perspectives from people whom you approach and at what yearDec 14 18:44
neigborleethe karen carpenter story being the saddest most likely..very hard one to get through as a carpenters fanDec 14 18:45
schestowitzMono front?Dec 14 18:45
schestowitzGood name for itDec 14 18:45
neigborleeyeahDec 14 18:45
neigborleeLOLDec 14 18:45
schestowitzFront groupDec 14 18:45
neigborleeyeahDec 14 18:45
neigborleehehDec 14 18:45
schestowitzAmbassadors for MS FOSSDec 14 18:45
neigborleeLOLDec 14 18:45
cubezzzI'm going back to saying GNU/Linux/XDec 14 18:45
schestowitzThe guy from UbuntuOne (friend of jono) spoke about tomboy as though it's just some innocent cuddly thingDec 14 18:46
cubezzzalthough I also say GNU/Linux/QtopiaDec 14 18:46
neigborleeI just say linux and to heck with the political correctness..my friends dont give a rats behind,,they just hear linux, and windows, and macDec 14 18:46
schestowitzTomboy is less harmful though  than stuff with winforms and other verboten stuffDec 14 18:46
schestowitzcubezzz: say Free desktopDec 14 18:46
cubezzzneigborlee, there's another problem thoughDec 14 18:46
schestowitz!google the free desktop projectDec 14 18:47
phIRCe-local[1] - freedesktop.org - Home | http://www.freedesktop.org/Dec 14 18:47
phIRCe-local[2] - GNOME: The Free Software Desktop Project | http://www.gnome.org/Dec 14 18:47
phIRCe-local[3] - Tango Desktop Project - Tango Desktop Project | http://tango.freedesktop.org/Dec 14 18:47
phIRCe-local[4] - Tango Desktop Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tango_Desktop_ProjectDec 14 18:47
cubezzzwhen I say just Linux different people interpret that in different waysDec 14 18:47
cubezzzit's purely an informational issue with meDec 14 18:47
neigborleeimho tomboy is not irrelevantDec 14 18:47
neigborleegnotes is teh new kid on block ;)Dec 14 18:47
neigborlee........theDec 14 18:47
schestowitzYes, it's still goingDec 14 18:47
neigborleelower memory, faster..and im sure by now just as many featuresDec 14 18:47
schestowitzANd it's fast, does the same thingDec 14 18:47
schestowitzcp -r ~/.tomboy ~/.gnoteDec 14 18:48
neigborleelolDec 14 18:48
schestowitzFedora uses itDec 14 18:48
schestowitzRahul takes care of itDec 14 18:48
schestowitzBTW, did you try F12 with kde 4.3?Dec 14 18:48
neigborleeyou mean gnotes I hopeDec 14 18:48
schestowitzI'm on 4.3.1 right nowDec 14 18:49
neigborleewellllllDec 14 18:49
schestowitzIt's fantasticDec 14 18:49
neigborleelast time I tried kde in fedora,,I was horribly unimpresedDec 14 18:49
neigborleeas in buggy as hellDec 14 18:49
cubezzzschestowitz, Free Desktop still doesn't work :)Dec 14 18:49
cubezzzmy Linux PDA for exampleDec 14 18:49
neigborleeBUT , im game to try again if you give it good credentails <wink>Dec 14 18:49
neigborleeah yes pda.I found the other day a oss pda appDec 14 18:49
neigborleeI thought sweeet ;))Dec 14 18:50
cubezzzFree Computer maybeDec 14 18:50
cubezzzFOSS computer?Dec 14 18:50
neigborleeI want to like/use fedora..honestly though as  much as that definitely IS true, i m very very weary due to the whole bleeding edge thingDec 14 18:50
neigborleelast time I use d it I had nasty horrid troubles with audioDec 14 18:51
cubezzznon Microsoft computer :)Dec 14 18:51
schestowitzcubezzz: why not?Dec 14 18:51
neigborleeindeedDec 14 18:51
schestowitzGratis?Dec 14 18:51
schestowitzAt least they'll know it's not just leeeeenux the 2nd/3rd desktopDec 14 18:51
schestowitzIt's differrentDec 14 18:51
schestowitzDifferent rules, different animalDec 14 18:51
cubezzzneigborlee, I use old Linux a lotDec 14 18:51
neigborleeold ?Dec 14 18:51
cubezzzFC1 and EmbedixDec 14 18:51
neigborleeah okDec 14 18:52
neigborleewoah nellie!Dec 14 18:52
neigborlee:))Dec 14 18:52
schestowitzWow. FCDec 14 18:52
schestowitzCore is like... soooooooooooo... yesterday :-)Dec 14 18:52
neigborleeI guesss if your hardware is that old that it works..its prob. a good thing memory footprint wize anyway Dec 14 18:52
cubezzzbut.... I also use F11 :)Dec 14 18:53
schestowitzneigborlee uses w11Dec 14 18:53
cubezzzw11?Dec 14 18:53
neigborleewth is w11 LOLDec 14 18:53
schestowitzwiiDec 14 18:53
neigborleeahhh yes ;))Dec 14 18:53
cubezzzbooo :)Dec 14 18:53
schestowitzProprietary!Dec 14 18:53
schestowitzRMS would be stomping on a Wii mat in angerDec 14 18:54
neigborleewellyou know..its got the smallest memory and electric footprint of any of my computers /consoles..so you betcha baby!!Dec 14 18:54
neigborlee:)Dec 14 18:54
schestowitzwiinvironmentDec 14 18:54
neigborlee18watts compared to 183/225 for everything else, and you betcha ;)Dec 14 18:54
cubezzzstill looking for an ARM laptop :-/Dec 14 18:54
schestowitzSeriously though, we're kind of f*EdDec 14 18:54
schestowitzNot we...Dec 14 18:54
schestowitzIslands firstDec 14 18:54
schestowitzMany refugees to comeDec 14 18:54
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/copenhagen_grumpiness/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8411898.stmDec 14 18:55
phIRCe-localTitle: Copenhagen talks stalled by green puppeteers • The Register .::. Size~: 32.77 KBDec 14 18:55
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 86.05 KBDec 14 18:55
cubezzzI was born in the UK, this is most unfair :)Dec 14 18:55
schestowitzThey are right to be angryDec 14 18:55
schestowitzThose leaders from the West came to shill for companies and patentsDec 14 18:55
schestowitzThey are not there for a solutionDec 14 18:55
schestowitzJust sliicing and arranges negotiations like disarmament post-cold warDec 14 18:55
neigborleewell,, this world better get its head on straight..cause mother earth aint gonna wait until we do..:)Dec 14 18:56
schestowitz*arrangedDec 14 18:56
cubezzzif I had a truly FOSS computer I would be happyDec 14 18:56
schestowitzneigborlee: [Notice] -BNc to #boycottnovell- [anivar] RT @glynmoody: Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended' - http://bit.ly/7ITrWo 's OK: we'll just ask climate change to wait #cop09Dec 14 18:57
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC News - Copenhagen climate summit negotiations 'suspended' .::. Size~: 65.51 KBDec 14 18:57
neigborleeyeah its ridiculousDec 14 18:57
neigborleeI dont care who is boycotting or protestingDec 14 18:57
neigborleepeople are just afraidDec 14 18:57
schestowitzcubezzz: it sells in the west coastDec 14 18:57
neigborleethe meeting needs to go onDec 14 18:57
schestowitzSome company called LCA or somethingDec 14 18:57
cubezzzhrmmDec 14 18:58
neigborleebunch of whimpsDec 14 18:58
cubezzzI'm only really boycotting MicrosoftDec 14 18:58
neigborleeamen to that LOLDec 14 18:58
schestowitzneigborlee: http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/10/citing_its_survival_pacific_island_ofDec 14 18:58
phIRCe-localTitle: Citing Its Survival, Pacific Island of Tuvalu Interrupts Copenhagen Summit to Call for Binding Climate Commitments .::. Size~: 39.11 KBDec 14 18:58
schestowitzThere is a movement to boycott those who care about the environmentDec 14 18:59
neigborleecheckingDec 14 18:59
schestowitzThey are very damageingDec 14 18:59
schestowitzAnd bribed by oil companies to do thatDec 14 18:59
schestowitzSame with US healthcare reformDec 14 18:59
schestowitzSome rich bastards... should be exiled for doing what they doDec 14 19:00
schestowitzExiled to the Maldives :-)Dec 14 19:00
neigborleeah ok icDec 14 19:00
schestowitzGive them some months until they are under water :-)Dec 14 19:00
Diablo-D3http://www.catonmat.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/yo-dawg-regex.jpgDec 14 19:00
phIRCe-localTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBDec 14 19:00
neigborleeyes,,I agree with the island basicallyDec 14 19:00
schestowitzDue to their own oil companies :-) ClassicDec 14 19:00
neigborleeI haven't read speicifics, but in prinicple absolutelyDec 14 19:01
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] !Perl http://ur1.ca/hua5Dec 14 19:01
schestowitzWoooord uo!Dec 14 19:01
neigborleejust like this dain mess with u.s. banks,,and obama 'asking them nicely' to stop their lending behaviors and exorbitant e x ecutive bonus payoutsDec 14 19:02
schestowitz /uo/upDec 14 19:02
schestowitzneigborlee: but he asked them /nicely/ :-)Dec 14 19:03
neigborleeyup LOLDec 14 19:03
schestowitzThey funded his election in part. He must be nice :-)Dec 14 19:03
neigborleethats what it amounts toDec 14 19:03
neigborleeof course ;)Dec 14 19:03
schestowitzLaws are not about nicetiesDec 14 19:03
schestowitzThey are about enforcement through risk of punishmentDec 14 19:03
schestowitzOr to some ifs fear.. of God/Hell/etcDec 14 19:04
cubezzzI fear the Gates of Hell :)Dec 14 19:04
schestowitzhttp://industry.bnet.com/financial-services/10005482/goldman-sachs-smarter-than-the-average-aig/Dec 14 19:04
schestowitzhttp://www.soxfirst.com/50226711/goldman_sachs_encouraged_aigs_selfdestruction.phpDec 14 19:04
phIRCe-localTitle: Goldman Sachs: Smarter Than the Average AIG | BNET Financial Services Blog | BNET .::. Size~: 50.07 KBDec 14 19:04
phIRCe-localTitle: Sox First: Goldman Sachs encouraged AIG's self-destruction .::. Size~: 116.92 KBDec 14 19:04
neigborleethis climate issue is going to be lots of people out of the woodwork, and rightfullly soDec 14 19:04
schestowitzhttp://ghanabusinessnews.com/2009/12/13/goldman-sachs-bigger-part-of-aig-troubles/Dec 14 19:04
phIRCe-localTitle:   Goldman Sachs bigger part of AIG troubles : Ghana Business News .::. Size~: 29.31 KBDec 14 19:04
schestowitzhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/12/goldman-sachs-fueled-aigs_n_389766.htmlDec 14 19:04
phIRCe-localTitle: Goldman Sachs Fueled AIG's Risky Gambles .::. Size~: 316.15 KBDec 14 19:04
schestowitzcubezzz: he'll probably get there quite lateDec 14 19:04
neigborleepeople shoud be angry, that greed has overcome rational judgement and compassionDec 14 19:04
schestowitzHe can afford to buy other people's bodyparts, like Jobs and McBainDec 14 19:04
neigborleenot only are we endagering ourSELVES, but animals tooDec 14 19:05
neigborleeits about as immoral as you can get ;)Dec 14 19:05
cubezzz120 years seems to be the absolute limitDec 14 19:05
schestowitzAnimals are here for us! :-) /SarcasmDec 14 19:05
schestowitzRemember:Dec 14 19:05
neigborleelolDec 14 19:05
schestowitzWhy else would God look just like us?Dec 14 19:05
schestowitzHe created animals for us to eatDec 14 19:06
neigborleelolDec 14 19:06
schestowitzDinosaurs too... mmmm... yummyDec 14 19:06
schestowitzAnyway, I watched this cool video...Dec 14 19:06
schestowitzAbout AussieDec 14 19:06
schestowitzI didn't know they put their forests on fireDec 14 19:06
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9XNHmTb48&feature=relatedDec 14 19:07
schestowitzI starts in Part IIDec 14 19:07
schestowitzTurns out they lit up the place and it's a desert to this dayDec 14 19:07
schestowitzNever recovered... no rain now, eitherDec 14 19:07
_goblinschestowitz: Is the twitter account "boycottnovell" yours?Dec 14 19:08
_goblinoh and sorry....Dec 14 19:08
_goblinhi everyone! good evening!Dec 14 19:09
schestowitzIt starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9XNHmTb48#t=360Dec 14 19:09
schestowitz_goblin: did you know this? Watch the above.Dec 14 19:09
schestowitzhttp://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/12/dxtop-android-home-alternative.htmlDec 14 19:12
phIRCe-localTitle: Ian's Thoughts: dxTop - Android home alternative .::. Size~: 98.24 KBDec 14 19:12
schestowitzMicrosoft crooks at it again: http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/Microsoft-Encroaching-on-Spanish-Schools-AgainDec 14 19:12
_goblinlol....Dec 14 19:13
_goblinu "aving a go" at my smoking?Dec 14 19:13
_goblin;)Dec 14 19:13
schestowitzhttp://lwn.net/Articles/364515/Dec 14 19:13
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schestowitz_goblin: we spoke about the environmentDec 14 19:14
schestowitzterraforming, I guessDec 14 19:14
schestowitzthermoforming tooDec 14 19:14
schestowitzhttp://www.itrunsonlinux.com/news/140-google-phone-available-next-yearDec 14 19:15
_goblinok...the best vid this year:Dec 14 19:20
_goblinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGlTzt24IzwDec 14 19:20
schestowitzThe original is betterDec 14 19:20
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] younger teen and friends in front room for first band practice. I think this is her revenge for me playing Death In June.Dec 14 19:22
_goblinreally...?Dec 14 19:22
_goblinnah....Dec 14 19:22
_goblinmy kids love the muppets version.Dec 14 19:22
schestowitzHow old?Dec 14 19:23
schestowitzStill, why not the original? Are there obscenities like "killed a man"... or will Freedie Mercury add to gay influence on them?Dec 14 19:27
schestowitzJust got this...Dec 14 19:27
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Dec 14 19:27
schestowitz> Dec 14 19:27
schestowitz> I know M$ calls it that, but they do so only to attack RMS.  Could youDec 14 19:27
schestowitz> please remove or change the acronymn in the title:Dec 14 19:27
schestowitz> http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/barred-from-office-files/Dec 14 19:27
schestowitzSomeone asked about it earlier. It was intended to be a joke which is made clear in the first sentence.Dec 14 19:27
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft RMS Denies Access to Peoples Own Documents | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 101.25 KBDec 14 19:27
schestowitzShould we really change this?Dec 14 19:27
_goblinschestowitz: 6, 4 and 1.4Dec 14 19:28
Ender2070nice articles todayDec 14 19:29
_goblinschestowitz: I think the Muppets version is better because of my favorite char is in it (the Manamana man)Dec 14 19:29
schestowitzEnder2070: thanksDec 14 19:30
schestowitzWe had over 4000 UIPs in the past 11 hoursDec 14 19:30
schestowitz_goblin: 1.4?Dec 14 19:31
schestowitz1 year and 5 months?Dec 14 19:31
_goblinAugust 08...Dec 14 19:32
_goblinyeah....Dec 14 19:32
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/68875.htmlDec 14 19:32
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schestowitzAd frenzistsDec 14 19:32
schestowitz_goblin: ok, so the middle one is the "anti-Mono zealot"Dec 14 19:33
Ender2070this one in particular http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/novell-and-issue-of-mono-revisited/Dec 14 19:34
phIRCe-localTitle: Another Former Novell Employee Sees No Turnaround | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 101.63 KBDec 14 19:34
schestowitzThere's moreDec 14 19:34
schestowitzhttp://www.the-source.com/2009/12/gnome-and-the-gnu-project/Dec 14 19:34
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schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091214053648594 *LOL*Dec 14 19:36
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_goblinno, its the youngest.....Daniel.....he's the one who sees the danger in the Mono project.Dec 14 19:36
schestowitzThe wallpaper is MAndriva, but the icon seems to suggest PCLOS with kde3Dec 14 19:38
schestowitz_goblin: now you gave away a name. Jo might smear him....Dec 14 19:39
_goblinHe probably will....that will look good on his image...Dec 14 19:39
_goblinhis "c" word tirade didn't do too much good either.Dec 14 19:40
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8TRXJ0SHm4&feature=player_embeddedDec 14 19:40
_goblinI don't really think it matters though. If it hadn't been for him trolling your site I never would have heard of the name...Dec 14 19:40
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8TRXJ0SHm4&feature=player_embeddedDec 14 19:42
schestowitz_goblin: check it outDec 14 19:42
_goblinlooking now....I hope its the muppetsDec 14 19:42
_goblinlol....Dec 14 19:43
Ender2070niceDec 14 19:43
Ender2070someone pwned lefty's surveyDec 14 19:44
_goblinof course, I can't comment on Government...Dec 14 19:44
Ender2070http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00106.htmlDec 14 19:44
schestowitzDave Neary has always had composureDec 14 19:45
schestowitz_goblin: Prescott did betterDec 14 19:46
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schestowitz_goblin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odkorthIHgDec 14 19:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] WWIII propaganda posters for sale, 25% to EFF http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/13/wwiii-propaganda-pos.htmlDec 14 19:49
phIRCe-localTitle: WWIII propaganda posters for sale, 25% to EFF Boing Boing .::. Size~: 61.31 KBDec 14 19:49
neigborleeoops sorry, was on the phoneDec 14 19:50
neigborleelets seeDec 14 19:50
neigborleelolDec 14 19:51
neigborleeschestowitz: is it true about some guys experience with debian ( as in that or he's messed up ) wehre he treid to remove gnome or some app and debian about came down on his head with wanting to remove tons of more crap ?Dec 14 19:52
neigborleemaybe it was milans blog not sureDec 14 19:53
schestowitzhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091211/1223357309.shtmlDec 14 19:53
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schestowitzneigborlee: maybeDec 14 19:54
Ender2070those guys are awesomeDec 14 19:54
schestowitzSome people in Debian want to elevate KDEDec 14 19:54
_goblinas much as I was impressed with KDE, as much as it was smooth, fast and solid.....I just cannot like it as much as Xfce or Gnome......Dec 14 19:55
neigborleeschestowitz: god I hope soDec 14 19:56
Ender2070that would be awesomeDec 14 19:56
Ender2070I love the free software KDE desktopDec 14 19:56
neigborleeschestowitz: Ill be trying archlinux, at least there I know I wont get mono whether I want it or not :) ( and chakra livecd at that, as  it uses kde as its base)Dec 14 19:56
neigborlee_goblin: then you have to factor that in with fact gnome is embracing mono ;)Dec 14 19:57
_goblinvery true..Dec 14 19:58
_goblinxfce?Dec 14 19:59
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/Legal-battles-rage-over-e-book-rights-to-old-books/2100-1025_3-6250316.htmlDec 14 19:59
phIRCe-localTitle: Legal battles rage over e-book rights to old books - CNET News .::. Size~: 82.01 KBDec 14 19:59
schestowitz_goblin will love this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/11/tsa_dhs/Dec 14 20:01
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schestowitzI have the MoD manualDec 14 20:01
_goblinlooking now!Dec 14 20:01
_goblinlol...Dec 14 20:02
schestowitzneigborlee: I thought you likes plasmoidsDec 14 20:02
_goblinyep thats a trigger point for me alright!Dec 14 20:02
schestowitzIf secrets are the glue of the systems, maybe there's room for improvementDec 14 20:02
schestowitzThe TSArs are all about secrecyDec 14 20:03
_goblintalking of glue....do you know what superglue was originally intended for?Dec 14 20:03
_goblin(it is relevant)Dec 14 20:03
_goblinpatching up injuries in Vietnamm.Dec 14 20:03
schestowitzGlue people's mouths shut?Dec 14 20:03
_goblinstill used as a field dressing of sorts in modern theatreDec 14 20:04
neigborleeschestowitz: they are interesting..Dec 14 20:04
schestowitzWhose injuries? Innocent civilians? /sarcasmDec 14 20:04
neigborleeschestowitz: though like the ones in vista/win7 I find them overall vastly irrelevant to my use of my os ;)Dec 14 20:04
neigborleeschestowitz: I like a few of them I guess ;)Dec 14 20:04
schestowitzIt's a desktop appDec 14 20:04
neigborleeoverall though I tend to like a clean, non cluttered desktopDec 14 20:04
schestowitzPlasma-desktopDec 14 20:04
neigborleeyup I knowDec 14 20:05
schestowitzThe rest is the sameDec 14 20:05
schestowitzKDE apps like amarok are goodDec 14 20:05
tessiercyanoacrylate is fun stuffDec 14 20:05
schestowitzQt appsDec 14 20:05
_goblintaken 300 hits to my site in the last hour as a result of Tuxmachines.......Dec 14 20:05
_goblin113 from distrowatch....Dec 14 20:06
_goblinheres something strange.....Dec 14 20:08
schestowitzhttp://www.itwire.com/content/view/29995/1090/1/0/Dec 14 20:09
schestowitz"Updated, 2.40pm AEDT: It was initially not possible to ascertain definitely as to what post on Planet GNOME led to the complaints which Roche mentioned. But it seems fairly clear now that this post, about Microsoft's Silverlight, by De Icaza was the catalyst."Dec 14 20:09
_goblinPlurks been in the press today and my site has been hit from visits of numerous Plurk accounts....Dec 14 20:09
_goblinjust in the last 20 mins:Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/kbr1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/iamJunkie1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/hcp1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/zx19861Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/gugod1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/aitjcize1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/Dxball1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/steven11031Dec 14 20:10
_goblingoogle.ca/reader/view/?tab=my1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/kkeennSCA1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/littlebtc1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/poga1Dec 14 20:10
_goblinplurk.com/blueswayDec 14 20:10
DaemonFClmaoDec 14 20:13
DaemonFCimpotency is a valid ground for filing divorce in IndianaDec 14 20:13
DaemonFCtelling them your spouse is mentally ill can get the marriage annulledDec 14 20:13
Ender2070neigborlee - you can also put -mono in arch linux's pacman exclusionsDec 14 20:15
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] the Puppy Linux project is a mess for users to try to get a grasp of :-(. it's a great distro which makes it sad, puppy deserves betterDec 14 20:16
Ender2070"Gnome supports both the free software movement as well as proprietary developers, and that is why Gnome for years has encouraged the use of the LGPL license for all of its libraries." -Miguel De IcazaDec 14 20:16
Ender2070"Gnome is a general purpose desktop, but it also recognizes the need for proprietary applications to use these libraries and to build and integrate properly with it." Miguel De IcazaDec 14 20:17
Ender2070http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00102.htmlDec 14 20:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: source... []?Dec 14 20:17
Ender2070he probably cantDec 14 20:18
DaemonFCschestowitz http://www.aboutdivorce.org/in/divorce_grounds.htmlDec 14 20:18
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Ender2070his wife put a gag order ont he lawsuitDec 14 20:18
DaemonFChttp://www.aboutdivorce.org/in/annulment.htmlDec 14 20:18
phIRCe-localTitle: Indiana Annulment Laws: AboutDivorce.org .::. Size~: 20.1 KBDec 14 20:18
Ender2070he knows first hand because he is mentally illDec 14 20:18
DaemonFCyou'd have to prove it in court if you were filing on those grounds since you're accusing them of being at fault for the breakdown of the marriageDec 14 20:20
DaemonFCgood luck, because the psychiatrist can't legally tell the court your medical info without your permissionDec 14 20:20
schestowitzDaemonFC: you getting divorced already??Dec 14 20:20
DaemonFCyep, I'm divorcing Ender2070, too cold and clammy are the accusationsDec 14 20:21
schestowitzI see...Dec 14 20:21
DaemonFCI also just don't feel he listens to me anymoreDec 14 20:21
DaemonFCand that my mother was right about himDec 14 20:21
schestowitzare you getting a new groom then?Dec 14 20:21
*DaemonFC starts throwing picture frames at Ender2070Dec 14 20:21
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 14 20:21
neigborleeDaemonFC: what, did you guys skip counseling pre marriage or something ? o_)Dec 14 20:22
schestowitz"I also just don't feel he listens to me anymore"Dec 14 20:22
Ender2070sorry i'm straightDec 14 20:22
neigborleelolDec 14 20:22
DaemonFCneigborlee: That counselor is a bitch who just has it out for meDec 14 20:22
DaemonFC:)Dec 14 20:22
MinceRlolDec 14 20:22
neigborleeI Tell ya ;)Dec 14 20:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: "oh no! not the mono [sic] lisa!"Dec 14 20:22
Ender2070guest articleDec 14 20:22
Ender2070http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=467Dec 14 20:22
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DaemonFCschestowitz: The divorce process is a joke actually, I've seen it in action enough timesDec 14 20:24
DaemonFCit's basically just a way to force you to give lawyers and counselors at least $5,000 each before it's overDec 14 20:24
DaemonFCa lot of people sign divorce agreements just to get out of paying lawyers and counselorsDec 14 20:25
DaemonFCif the two people can't work out the divorce amicably, then the fun beginsDec 14 20:25
schestowitzyes, I know..Dec 14 20:26
schestowitzActually, marriages can be the sameDec 14 20:27
schestowitzIt's like the patent office... bureaucratisation of simple processes Dec 14 20:27
schestowitzThen "civil servants" or lawyers make money from their meta-industryDec 14 20:27
schestowitz_goblin: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/41801#comment-12520Dec 14 20:29
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DaemonFClawyers want the divorce process to be as complicated as possible so you get to pay them $300 an hour to work through the system for youDec 14 20:29
schestowitz"What type of Putz names their project PUD?"Dec 14 20:29
DaemonFCthat's one part of the marriage industryDec 14 20:29
schestowitzCartelDec 14 20:29
schestowitzAs long as no-oe charges $30/hourDec 14 20:30
DaemonFCDivorce lawyers and McDonalds can both claim "Billions served"Dec 14 20:30
schestowitzThe legal system is made complicated by peopleDec 14 20:30
DaemonFCI didn't make is complicated :)Dec 14 20:30
schestowitzThe same jargon/legalese with special structure ensure reliance on the same people who are "law"Dec 14 20:30
schestowitzWhat's funny is that some people say stuff like, "it's the law"Dec 14 20:31
schestowitzThey never seem to understand what law isDec 14 20:31
schestowitzBut that's the success of the indoctrination systemDec 14 20:31
schestowitzPeople dare not challenge it from below, not even civil diobedienceDec 14 20:31
schestowitzAnd then there's the religious ceremonyDec 14 20:32
schestowitzLike "put your hand on the bible"Dec 14 20:32
schestowitzTen commandments and allDec 14 20:32
schestowitzLaw is just a set of rules, like in a gameDec 14 20:32
DaemonFCI never had that happen while I was in courtDec 14 20:32
schestowitzDepending on how you set the rules, winners or losers are definedDec 14 20:32
schestowitzIf only rich people change the law over time, they get richerDec 14 20:32
DaemonFCthey just ask "Do you affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?"Dec 14 20:32
DaemonFCThere's no bible, no "so help you God"Dec 14 20:32
schestowitzEven if they are a tiny minority with access to "Lawyer" [see appended for definition and Sec 4.4.2]Dec 14 20:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: that's a stupid thing to sayDec 14 20:33
schestowitzWhy would you not say the truth?Dec 14 20:34
schestowitzAnd if you were to lie, then would saying "no" (i.e. lie) change this?Dec 14 20:34
schestowitzIt's hystericalDec 14 20:34
DaemonFCschestowitz: If you can't afford one, you get stuck with a public defender who gets paid the same no maqtter how many cases they win or lose, and get such a case workload that they just kind of skim over your case during your first trial appearanceDec 14 20:34
DaemonFCpublic defender = you're going to jailDec 14 20:34
schestowitzTo ask a person "are you lying?" or like asking "are you a terrorist?"Dec 14 20:34
schestowitzTV shows with small claims are betterDec 14 20:35
schestowitzPeople at least speak for themselvesDec 14 20:35
schestowitzNot a puppet showDec 14 20:35
schestowitzWhere a bunch of "teams" fight proxy battles for two parties on case (or >2)Dec 14 20:35
schestowitzYou have a large industry of "puppets" out there, hired to 'stage' a trial on behalf of the people whose argument they 're-enact'Dec 14 20:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: When my step sister's son was on trial (at age 13), the public defender asked us if we wanted to try to get a plea agreement and when the kid was sentenced he asked if we wanted to appeal, and we were both back there horrified, telling him "NO, NO!!!! We want him to go to jail as long as possible!"Dec 14 20:37
DaemonFCso the guy just kind of let it go from there, heheDec 14 20:37
DaemonFClong story, but my mom's ex husband had custody (which meant so did my mom)Dec 14 20:38
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DaemonFChe had to be at work that day so we went to the courtroom and told the lawyer to just take things easy that day, lolDec 14 20:38
Ender2070DaemonFC - if they misrepresent you its illegal, tooDec 14 20:41
DaemonFCEnder2070: He was a minor under the custody of a guardian who gets to tell the PD what will be doneDec 14 20:41
DaemonFChe's not really capable of making his own decisions in this caseDec 14 20:42
DaemonFChe was also raped several other kidsDec 14 20:42
DaemonFCincluding his own sistersDec 14 20:42
DaemonFC*was=hadDec 14 20:42
DaemonFCThey should have thrown away the key in my opinionDec 14 20:42
DaemonFCI talked to a psychiatrist in a sex offender's prison where my aunt works about that kid, and he told me that not only will he probably re-offend, he may get more brutal or start murdering people to keep his victims quietDec 14 20:43
DaemonFCbut there's a revolving door justice system that the liberals have gotten installedDec 14 20:44
DaemonFCit lets violent offenders out just to re-offend and end up back in over and overDec 14 20:44
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DaemonFCthe liberal justice system lets offenders out for good behavior every few years so they can sell more drugs and rape and beat someone elseDec 14 20:45
DaemonFCit also makes sure that prisoners have health coverage that people who haven't done anything wrong have nothingDec 14 20:45
DaemonFCit also makes sure that prisoners get nice expensive workout equipment so they can be stronger, meaner criminals when they get outDec 14 20:46
DaemonFC*that=whenDec 14 20:47
schestowitzAsa runs away from Bong [sic] comment http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/12/privacy_context_and.html http://www.lockergnome.com/theoracle/2009/12/13/no-honor-among-thieves/Dec 14 20:47
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DaemonFClike I said, the damned liberals are there to make sure that felons have more rights than people who haven't done anything wrongDec 14 20:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: your talk about some dude raping sisters isn't exactly the thing worthy a discussion here... IMHODec 14 20:48
DaemonFCwell, Ender2070 is worried about how well that piece of scum gets represented in court for some reasonDec 14 20:48
schestowitzLeave it to Jerry Springer Show, DaemonFCDec 14 20:50
DaemonFCleave the entire family to SpringerDec 14 20:50
DaemonFCtwo of them are in federal prison for running meth labsDec 14 20:50
DaemonFCone of them had their ingredients catch fire on his cigarette and blew up the carDec 14 20:51
DaemonFC:DDec 14 20:51
schestowitzhttp://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/linux-and-windows-stereotypes-35856Dec 14 20:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: LOLDec 14 20:51
Ender2070stfuDec 14 20:51
Ender2070you know slander is illegal too rightDec 14 20:51
DaemonFCOK, Michael Culley from Huntington Indiana had his meth lab ingredients blow up in his carDec 14 20:52
DaemonFChe's been convicted, it's not slanderDec 14 20:52
Ender2070you're slandering meDec 14 20:52
Ender2070[15:43] <DaemonFC> well, Ender2070 is worried about how well that piece of scum gets represented in court for some reasonDec 14 20:52
schestowitzHuh?Dec 14 20:52
DaemonFCsue me?Dec 14 20:52
Ender2070when did I even mention this caseDec 14 20:52
DaemonFCEnder2070: Sue me in a Canadian court, I hope you win $100 millionDec 14 20:53
schestowitzLet's press onDec 14 20:53
DaemonFCI mean that :)Dec 14 20:53
Ender2070if you are refering to Dr Peter Watts, then you're talking about a different situationDec 14 20:53
*schestowitz presses "on" button on stereoDec 14 20:53
schestowitzIt goes both waysDec 14 20:53
schestowitzDemocracy Now crew was abused by CA copsDec 14 20:53
DaemonFCit reminds me of that time that an anti-spam company in the UK was sued on Illinois by spammers and decided not to reply to the court because there was no way it could make them pay the ruling, if any, anywayDec 14 20:54
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft China steals code from Plurk? http://tinyurl.com/ybfaph3 #microsoft #windows #xp #vista #failDec 14 20:55
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DaemonFCand the ruling for $27 million in favor of the spammers remains unpaid to this day, like 8 years laterDec 14 20:55
DaemonFC*inDec 14 20:55
schestowitzhttp://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/162698,google-facing-privacy-backlash.aspxDec 14 20:55
DaemonFCso Ender2070 I don't know what the law for libel or slander are in Canada, but you can sue me there if you wantDec 14 20:56
DaemonFCI hope they land you a record amount in damages against meDec 14 20:56
DaemonFCI won't even fight themDec 14 20:56
Ender2070schestowitz - all this stuff against google will end up making google smarten upDec 14 20:56
DaemonFCIn the US, it's hard to sue someone for libel or slander and win because you not only have to prove it happened, but that it also caused you financial harmDec 14 20:57
DaemonFCand it's not a criminal offense, it's just a civil caseDec 14 20:57
Ender2070well irc logs, duhDec 14 20:58
DaemonFCOK, show me how much financial harm it caused youDec 14 20:58
schestowitz_goblin: sounds like themDec 14 20:58
Ender2070i dont have toDec 14 20:58
DaemonFCI would ignore any ruling by a Canadian courtDec 14 20:58
DaemonFCand if the amount I was sued for in a US court was beyond my ability to pay, I'd file bankruptcyDec 14 20:59
DaemonFCkind of takes away the incentive to sue me I would thingDec 14 20:59
DaemonFC*thinkDec 14 20:59
Ender2070not that i would waste my time suing you anywaysDec 14 21:00
DaemonFCunless you feel like hiring a lawyer and paying court costs in order to win some kind of empty symbolic victoryDec 14 21:00
Ender2070actually i probably wouldnt even need a lawyerDec 14 21:00
Ender2070you're not about to come to ontario to defend yourselfDec 14 21:00
DaemonFCmaybe I'll counter sue for the emotional distress you've caused meDec 14 21:01
DaemonFC:PDec 14 21:01
Ender2070lolDec 14 21:01
DaemonFCYeah, I already said I don't care what a Canadian court says about meDec 14 21:01
DaemonFCI'll take their "You are required to respond" papers and wipe my ass with themDec 14 21:01
DaemonFCyou know I willDec 14 21:01
DaemonFCand mail them back like thatDec 14 21:01
Ender2070if you let your country be part of a "North American Union" then perhaps you mightDec 14 21:01
DaemonFCconspiracy theoryDec 14 21:02
trmancolooolDec 14 21:02
Ender2070look up the word conspiracyDec 14 21:02
trmancoGoogle has a url shortenerDec 14 21:02
trmanco:ODec 14 21:02
trmancoan*Dec 14 21:02
Ender2070a plan carried out by more than two peopleDec 14 21:02
trmancohttp://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/making-urls-shorter-for-google-toolbar.htmlDec 14 21:02
phIRCe-localTitle: Official Google Blog: Making URLs shorter for Google Toolbar and FeedBurner .::. Size~: 82.3 KBDec 14 21:02
Ender2070a very vague thing to label stuff withDec 14 21:02
DaemonFCour Constitution does not provide for the recognition of such a thingDec 14 21:02
DaemonFCit would be unconstitutional, unarguablyDec 14 21:03
Ender2070your constitution also doesnt prevent the US government, from selling ALL of its landDec 14 21:03
schestowitz_goblin: http://www.mygnulinux.com/?p=480Dec 14 21:03
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DaemonFCEnder2070: I think they'd run into too many problems for an NAU to be practicalDec 14 21:03
schestowitztrmanco: uh Oh!!!Dec 14 21:04
DaemonFCthey'll pass economic treaties and such that gives big business the rights to do whatever they wantDec 14 21:04
schestowitzGoogle is _everywhere_Dec 14 21:04
trmancojust for google productsDec 14 21:04
schestowitzThey also host codeDec 14 21:04
DaemonFCI can believe that much cause it's already happeningDec 14 21:04
schestowitzWhat have they not done yet?Dec 14 21:04
trmancothey are everywhereDec 14 21:04
schestowitzLet's think...Dec 14 21:04
schestowitzThey also have Google Phone comingDec 14 21:04
schestowitzHardwareDec 14 21:04
schestowitzMade by HTCDec 14 21:04
trmancoyesDec 14 21:04
trmancoand then chrome osDec 14 21:04
schestowitzLike zune (Toshiba/Microsoft)Dec 14 21:04
Ender2070one piece of advice: buy google stocks :)Dec 14 21:04
trmanconetbooksDec 14 21:04
schestowitzEmbedded Chrome?Dec 14 21:05
schestowitzOh, I know!!!Dec 14 21:05
schestowitzSkyNetOSDec 14 21:05
schestowitzGoogle OS for HPCDec 14 21:05
Ender2070when they take over the world and destroy microsoft, you'll be richDec 14 21:05
schestowitzTheyDec 14 21:06
trmancololDec 14 21:06
schestowitzWe'll be their source of richnessDec 14 21:06
DaemonFCEnder2070: There's only one personal in Congress that believes in the NAU, he's a delusional paranoid schizophrenic named Ron PaulDec 14 21:06
schestowitzI don't get their adsDec 14 21:06
DaemonFCand he's from TexasDec 14 21:06
DaemonFCdo the mathDec 14 21:06
schestowitzThey take ads offline tooDec 14 21:06
DaemonFC*personDec 14 21:06
Ender2070Ron Paul is the most sane politician you haveDec 14 21:06
schestowitzNaaa..Dec 14 21:06
Ender2070I wouldn't knock himDec 14 21:06
schestowitzI like his stanceDec 14 21:06
DaemonFChe's paranoid and delusionalDec 14 21:07
schestowitzBut he's not the most sober out thereDec 14 21:07
Ender2070no hes notDec 14 21:07
Ender2070he readsDec 14 21:07
schestowitzAnd his brother is underwhelmingDec 14 21:07
schestowitzReads?Dec 14 21:07
Ender2070yesDec 14 21:07
schestowitzOKDec 14 21:07
schestowitzSo he's better than BushDec 14 21:07
schestowitzLaura Bush is still trying to teach Georgie how to readDec 14 21:07
Ender2070most politicians dont read, other than the numbers on their chequesDec 14 21:07
schestowitzHe just puts on that mono face, y'know the one I'm talking about?Dec 14 21:08
trmancoanyone want a google wave invite?Dec 14 21:08
schestowitzI bet that meth lab in thw car... George would say, "that's my kind of guy"Dec 14 21:08
Ender2070trmanco - sureDec 14 21:08
schestowitzBush comes from a rich family in CT (IIRC) pretending he grew up in a trailer parkDec 14 21:08
trmancoemail pleaseDec 14 21:08
Ender2070brandon@pwnage.caDec 14 21:08
schestowitzFake accent and hobbiesDec 14 21:08
schestowitzEnder2070: they read a lotDec 14 21:09
schestowitzObama doesDec 14 21:09
schestowitzHe reads the paperDec 14 21:09
trmancodoneDec 14 21:09
Ender2070tyDec 14 21:09
schestowitzBut they say he's not familiar with political tricks cause he has less experience at it than othersDec 14 21:09
schestowitzMaybe makes him more gullible, I hope not...Dec 14 21:09
trmancowelcomeDec 14 21:10
Ender2070schestowitz - a lot of "paranoid and delusional" people DaemonFC refer to are actually just regular people who can read declassified documentsDec 14 21:10
DaemonFCpeople read into those exactly what they willDec 14 21:10
cubezzzdoes anyone know if Bill C-61 is law? Dec 14 21:10
Ender2070LOLDec 14 21:10
schestowitzhttp://steveire.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/community-identity-stability/Dec 14 21:10
phIRCe-localTitle: Community, Identity, Stability « Steveires Blog .::. Size~: 22.75 KBDec 14 21:10
schestowitz4.4Dec 14 21:10
Ender2070Bill C-61 is NOT lawDec 14 21:10
cubezzzhard to tell.. I assume it's notDec 14 21:10
DaemonFCthey want there to be an NAU conspiracy so much that they piece together shreds of "evidence" from anywhere they thing they can get them and place htem anywhere they think they'll fitDec 14 21:11
cubezzzAll the references I see are 2008 eraDec 14 21:11
Ender2070everytime it gets near a vote, our government decides it needs another electionDec 14 21:11
DaemonFCthat's Ron PaulDec 14 21:11
schestowitzWhy care abou the law, cubezzz :-)Dec 14 21:11
schestowitzJust let the 'adults' handle itDec 14 21:11
schestowitzThey look after you Dec 14 21:11
cubezzzoh well, then we are fine, we have lots of elections Dec 14 21:11
Ender2070:)Dec 14 21:11
Ender2070thats what scrapped C-60Dec 14 21:11
schestowitzAnd if you don't like what they do, you can get to hold up a signDec 14 21:12
cubezzzwell, how would they stop me removing DRM?Dec 14 21:12
schestowitzIt's your democratic right to hold up signs... and be photographed by police for it :-pDec 14 21:12
cubezzzI'm just saying...Dec 14 21:12
_goblinschestowitz: In regards to Chakra...I was very impressed too.Dec 14 21:12
Ender2070DaemonFC - you're naive if you dont think people are trying to force a one world government - ie united nationsDec 14 21:12
schestowitzI know how to get arrested in Canada nowDec 14 21:12
schestowitzJust say something negative about the olympicsDec 14 21:12
Ender2070schestowitz - talk about the olympics in BCDec 14 21:13
schestowitzIt's worst then holocaust denial there at the moment, AFAICTDec 14 21:13
Ender2070LOLDec 14 21:13
DaemonFCWrite "Canada Sucks" on the side of your van and don't write it in French too?Dec 14 21:13
DaemonFC:DDec 14 21:13
Ender2070im gonna blog about how crappy the olympics areDec 14 21:13
cubezzzwhoa that would do it :)Dec 14 21:13
schestowitzOlympics the Godwin du jourDec 14 21:13
cubezzzwe are pretty liberal reallyDec 14 21:13
cubezzzno one gets in trouble for p2p stuffDec 14 21:14
Ender2070DaemonFC - hahahaDec 14 21:14
schestowitzEnder2070: go for itDec 14 21:14
Ender2070DaemonFC - I own that movieDec 14 21:14
DaemonFC:DDec 14 21:14
schestowitzI'd join the anti-olympics move for the fun of itDec 14 21:14
Ender2070:DDec 14 21:14
schestowitzShow skinny skinny athletesDec 14 21:14
schestowitzSkinny 15 y-o gymnasts who weight 60lbDec 14 21:15
cubezzzschestowitz, you are becoming anti-everything :)Dec 14 21:15
schestowitz*WeighDec 14 21:15
Ender2070something along the lines of "The Olympics: Carrying Roman Tyranny over to 2010"Dec 14 21:15
schestowitzcubezzz: I'm joking nowDec 14 21:15
schestowitzEnder2070: "Sparta Games"Dec 14 21:15
MinceRcubezzz: anti-everything is also anti-anti-everything, so it's something that's impossible to be :>Dec 14 21:15
cubezzzthe olympics are way over-hypedDec 14 21:15
MinceRmadness?Dec 14 21:15
schestowitzhttp://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32crd_youtube-this-is-sparta-funtasticpow_musicDec 14 21:16
phIRCe-localTitle: Dailymotion - YouTube - This is Sparta - Funtasticpower - a Music video .::. Size~: 67.75 KBDec 14 21:16
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tdZkcV8o54Dec 14 21:16
cubezzzthe nook got hacked I seeDec 14 21:17
schestowitzMinceR: I'm anti-anti-animalsDec 14 21:17
cubezzznot sure how much those go forDec 14 21:17
Ender2070I linked that scene in canadian baconDec 14 21:17
schestowitzMinceR: I'm anti-anti-democrats toDec 14 21:17
_goblinI love the psychology of the person who cannot find fault in an argument.... if its a single comment then its regarded as "hate" if its a large reasoned post its a "campaign" and if all else fails its ....."Aaaaah Youre killing FOSS"Dec 14 21:17
schestowitzGosh, I'm so antiDec 14 21:17
cubezzzno recursive anti's please :)Dec 14 21:17
schestowitz /to/too/Dec 14 21:17
*MinceR wonders if an animal made of antimatter is an anti-animalDec 14 21:17
schestowitzI guess only the off-numbered "anti" folks are negativeDec 14 21:18
schestowitzBut as long as you're among even-anti then you're anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-OKDec 14 21:18
cubezzzanti anti double negative, go not pass go, do not collect $200Dec 14 21:18
schestowitzcubezzz: Droid got rooted tooDec 14 21:18
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schestowitzWindows Mobile no-one bothers withDec 14 21:19
schestowitzBuy now for memorabilia inventoriesDec 14 21:19
_goblinI did....I suffered for a while with it a year or so ago....Dec 14 21:19
_goblingodawfulDec 14 21:19
_goblinHad an MDA Mail.Dec 14 21:19
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6p_6wvByFgDec 14 21:19
DaemonFCthere you go Ender2070 Dec 14 21:19
cubezzzis Windows Mobile different from Windows CE?Dec 14 21:19
_goblinpassDec 14 21:20
DaemonFCcubezzz: YesDec 14 21:20
Ender2070I linked a higher quality one dudeDec 14 21:20
Ender2070http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tdZkcV8o54Dec 14 21:20
cubezzzebooks are still too expensiveDec 14 21:20
cubezzz$99 I'd buy oneDec 14 21:20
cubezzzbut there all $250+Dec 14 21:21
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schestowitzEnder2070: hehe. New to meDec 14 21:22
Ender2070its a funny movie, it exaggerates alot of canadian stereotypesDec 14 21:22
Ender2070its a michael moore film tooDec 14 21:22
cubezzzStrange Brew?Dec 14 21:23
DaemonFC"I do have to fine you. Now that'll be $1,000 CAD or $10 USD if you prefer"Dec 14 21:23
DaemonFClolDec 14 21:23
Ender2070Canadian BaconDec 14 21:23
cubezzzah, never saw thatDec 14 21:23
Ender2070DaemonFC - old movie, its the other way around nowDec 14 21:23
DaemonFCmehDec 14 21:23
DaemonFCmore or less evenDec 14 21:23
cubezzznot really, it's close yeahDec 14 21:23
DaemonFCI think ours was slightly ahead last I lookedDec 14 21:23
cubezzzexcept for booksDec 14 21:24
Ender2070considering you guys have a LOT more people, its safdDec 14 21:24
Ender2070sadDec 14 21:24
cubezzzDollar has been even before Ender2070Dec 14 21:24
cubezzzI can remember itDec 14 21:24
Ender2070yesDec 14 21:24
Ender2070also, the dollar was above the US pre-ww2Dec 14 21:25
Ender2070the US made a lot of money selling weapons to both sides and making everyone owe them moneyDec 14 21:25
DaemonFCI think it's something like five Americans per CanadianDec 14 21:25
DaemonFCprobably 8:1 with the illegal immigrantsDec 14 21:25
cubezzzwhat's the pop of the USA now?Dec 14 21:26
DaemonFCofficially, about 308 million I thinkDec 14 21:26
Ender2070I think New york has a higher population than CanadaDec 14 21:26
cubezzzreally?Dec 14 21:26
Ender2070or its closeDec 14 21:26
Ender2070I sort of remember that from high schoolDec 14 21:26
DaemonFChttp://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.htmlDec 14 21:26
phIRCe-localTitle: US & World Population Clock .::. Size~: 12.29 KBDec 14 21:27
DaemonFC308,152,464Dec 14 21:27
Ender2070new york was compared against our largest citiesDec 14 21:27
cubezzzNew York city is interestingDec 14 21:27
cubezzzI have a lot of photos of old New YorkDec 14 21:27
DaemonFC33,212,696 is the population of Canada as of July 2008Dec 14 21:28
Ender2070new yawk city?Dec 14 21:28
Ender2070:)Dec 14 21:28
cubezzz19.5 million people in NY stateDec 14 21:28
cubezzzmuch smaller than the pop of CanadaDec 14 21:28
DaemonFCso I was wrong, it's closer to 9:1Dec 14 21:28
Ender2070i think it ny city was compared against our largest cities, not the wholeDec 14 21:28
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DaemonFCand probably 10:1 or more counting illegal MexicansDec 14 21:29
cubezzzIowa is niceDec 14 21:29
DaemonFCEnder2070: How big of a problem is that in Canada?Dec 14 21:29
cubezzzthe food seemed better there Dec 14 21:29
Ender2070DaemonFC - you should help make them legal so they pay taxesDec 14 21:29
DaemonFCAny of them start demanding that you all speak Spanish and give them welfare yet?Dec 14 21:29
cubezzzMexicans probably wouldn't like Canada, too coldDec 14 21:29
DaemonFCthey're invading Indiana nowDec 14 21:30
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] BusyBox runs out of patience http://is.gd/5nB7C The GPL: it's serious. Make a million - but if you take, you give back.Dec 14 21:30
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DaemonFCso who knows?Dec 14 21:30
Ender2070who caresDec 14 21:30
DaemonFCyou spray for them and you spray for them and they keep coming backDec 14 21:30
Ender2070why don't you help them get in legally easier? they are running from a horrible governmentDec 14 21:30
DaemonFCthen the liberals make you dilute the sprayDec 14 21:30
DaemonFCwith their goal being to let the infestation get totally out of controlDec 14 21:31
DaemonFCit's kind of like trying to put your system under twice the load it can handle so you can take on all the weight of the worldDec 14 21:32
Ender2070Canada already dealt with the issue of languages, we have two official languages which won't change any time soonDec 14 21:32
DaemonFCno other country is volunteering to host themDec 14 21:32
Ender2070your country just needs to start requiring SSN's for social services, problem solvedDec 14 21:33
DaemonFCthey doDec 14 21:33
Ender2070they aren't good enough and need to be buffed up thenDec 14 21:33
DaemonFCthey let illegals get away with making up SSNs even though E-Verify could check them easilyDec 14 21:33
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-makes-commitments-on-MySQL-Update-884532.html http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/it-business/supplier-relations/news/index.cfm?newsid=17995Dec 14 21:33
phIRCe-localTitle: Oracle makes commitments on MySQL - Update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.69 KBDec 14 21:33
Ender2070exactly what you said,Dec 14 21:33
phIRCe-localTitle: Oracle concessions on Sun merger get EC thumbs up - Supplier Relations - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 85.34 KBDec 14 21:33
schestowitzMysql takeover is goDec 14 21:33
DaemonFCit's a way the liberals let them get around the systemDec 14 21:33
Ender2070they should be verifiying themDec 14 21:33
Ender2070they should also make it easier to get in legallyDec 14 21:33
Ender2070currently your country thinks Canada is more dangerous than MexicoDec 14 21:34
DaemonFCI think we should build a DMZ for a border, Ender2070 Dec 14 21:34
DaemonFCproblem solvedDec 14 21:35
Ender2070DMZ would be illegal, UN-wiseDec 14 21:35
DaemonFCnot if it's all on US soilDec 14 21:35
DaemonFCwhich it would beDec 14 21:35
Ender2070blowing people up is perfectly fine with you?Dec 14 21:35
Ender2070they are escaping poverty and corrupt governmentsDec 14 21:36
DaemonFCput up some big signs on the other side warning and graphically illustrating the consequences of trespassingDec 14 21:36
DaemonFC:)Dec 14 21:36
Ender2070how would you like it if Canada set up a DMZ for when your government really does go tyrannical and you all flee hereDec 14 21:36
DaemonFCI don't see it happeningDec 14 21:37
DaemonFCbut it's your right to do that I guessDec 14 21:37
DaemonFCI don't run into your country and try to sponge off every level of your system funded by your tax moneyDec 14 21:37
DaemonFCyou don't border a third world countryDec 14 21:37
DaemonFCwe doDec 14 21:37
Ender2070you couldn'tDec 14 21:37
Ender2070what happens when USA becomes third worldDec 14 21:38
DaemonFCEnder2070: The liberals are trying their damndest to make that happenDec 14 21:38
DaemonFCit hasn't so farDec 14 21:38
Ender2070all it would take is a natural disaster or an economy crashDec 14 21:38
DaemonFCCanada doesn't get many large scale natural disasters eitherDec 14 21:39
Ender2070what would happen if the US losts its ability to provide electricityDec 14 21:39
DaemonFCat least none that I've seenDec 14 21:39
Ender2070ice storm 1997Dec 14 21:39
Ender2070you had hurrican katrinaDec 14 21:39
Ender2070hurricane*Dec 14 21:39
DaemonFCwe got a twofer between the hurricanes and bordering MexicoDec 14 21:39
DaemonFC:DDec 14 21:39
Ender2070when katrina happened, FEMA went all facist on the residents thereDec 14 21:39
DaemonFCno, the residents started looting and firing weapons as rescue workersDec 14 21:40
DaemonFCthen bitched about nobody coming to helpDec 14 21:40
DaemonFC*atDec 14 21:40
Ender2070according to FEMADec 14 21:40
DaemonFCnopeDec 14 21:40
DaemonFCthere's proofDec 14 21:40
Ender2070i dont listen to bush's proofDec 14 21:40
Ender2070its weakDec 14 21:40
DaemonFCEnder2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcajIRcBvADec 14 21:40
DaemonFCthe cops were even stealing shoesDec 14 21:41
DaemonFChigh heels I believeDec 14 21:41
Ender2070and?Dec 14 21:41
Ender2070a natural disaster has occuredDec 14 21:41
DaemonFCyeah, and they aren't taking diapersDec 14 21:41
DaemonFCthey take bikes, TVs, computersDec 14 21:42
DaemonFCboozeDec 14 21:42
DaemonFCboom boxesDec 14 21:42
DaemonFCshow me how you can eat a television set, Ender2070 Dec 14 21:42
Ender2070im sure MSNBC is balancedDec 14 21:42
DaemonFCit's right thereDec 14 21:42
DaemonFCon tapeDec 14 21:42
Ender2070i dont see people shooting rescue workersDec 14 21:42
Ender2070i see people lootingDec 14 21:43
Ender2070people WILL loot during a natural disasterDec 14 21:43
Ender2070some people will loot stuff they dont needDec 14 21:43
Ender2070and they are dumbDec 14 21:43
Ender2070like you said, you can't eat a tvDec 14 21:44
DaemonFCthe liberals only start listening when Kanye West and Jesse jackson start talking about how the government sent the hurricane there to kill black peopleDec 14 21:44
DaemonFCjust like the government made AIDS t okill black peopleDec 14 21:44
DaemonFCand the government gives the flu vaccine to kill black peopleDec 14 21:44
Ender2070AIDS is man madeDec 14 21:44
Ender2070not to kill black people, to kill anyoneDec 14 21:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Getting ready to watch the repeat of TLC, wasn't able to stay up last night. Sky Box Office....bless you. #wwe #tlcDec 14 21:45
Ender2070population controlDec 14 21:45
DaemonFCso why make drugs that can slow it down?Dec 14 21:45
DaemonFCso they live longer and infect more people?Dec 14 21:45
Ender2070yesDec 14 21:46
Ender2070they wont provide curesDec 14 21:46
Ender2070they make drugs you need to spend money on your whole lifeDec 14 21:46
Ender2070it helps them in two waysDec 14 21:46
DaemonFCyou don't, the government doesDec 14 21:46
Ender2070and big pharma isn't putting people into positions to pass laws requiring that?Dec 14 21:47
DaemonFCyou get to the point where you can't work and you go on MedicareDec 14 21:47
DaemonFCfrom that point on, the government buys your medsDec 14 21:47
Ender2070thats the planDec 14 21:47
Ender2070its a higher issue than just your governmentDec 14 21:47
Ender2070they gave people aids via immunization in africaDec 14 21:48
Ender2070you also have people in congress who are paid to pass laws that make government pay for it if you cant afford itDec 14 21:48
schestowitzneigborlee: you read some real poisonDec 14 21:49
Ender2070dont take my word for it, take the world of the worlds leading expert on AidsDec 14 21:50
Ender2070http://www.drday.com/Dec 14 21:50
Ender2070word*Dec 14 21:50
schestowitzDirect link?Dec 14 21:51
schestowitzShe links to stuff like this:Dec 14 21:52
schestowitzhttp://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/medical/swine_flu.htmDec 14 21:52
Ender2070http://noworldsystem.com/2009/08/11/swine-flu-vaccines-can-cause-infertility-and-autoimmune-disease/Dec 14 21:53
phIRCe-localTitle: Swine Flu Vaccines Can Cause Infertility and Autoimmune Disease « noworldsystem.com .::. Size~: 311.8 KBDec 14 21:53
DaemonFCI've had itDec 14 21:53
Ender2070theres a lot of this type of stuff in the medical industryDec 14 21:54
Ender2070she cured her own cancer by changing her dietDec 14 21:56
Ender2070switched to organicsDec 14 21:56
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DaemonFCI doubt thatDec 14 22:00
DaemonFCthat new age crap has gone entirely too farDec 14 22:01
Ender2070she has proof dumbassDec 14 22:03
DaemonFCof course she doesDec 14 22:05
DaemonFCJesus and organic tofu cured herDec 14 22:05
Ender2070it doesnt seem new agey at all to assume that eating the correct food will make you unsickDec 14 22:07
Ender2070as apposed to all the shit you eat thats bad for youDec 14 22:08
Ender2070in fact, it seems more traditional compared to what food is like nowDec 14 22:08
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Ender2070look at this: http://www.neatorama.com/2009/11/20/bacon-mug/Dec 14 22:10
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Ender2070i wouldnt be surprised at the types of illnesses you'd get if thats something you would seriously consider eatingDec 14 22:10
Ender2070or anyoneDec 14 22:10
Ender2070the type of person who would eat that, has very bad dietary preferencesDec 14 22:11
Ender2070You should get a job at Fox NewsDec 14 22:13
Ender2070You could compete with Bill O'ReillyDec 14 22:13
Ender2070well later, im off to the library to research civil law and lawsuitsDec 14 22:15
Ender2070and copyright enforcement/court procedureDec 14 22:16
Ender2070trmanaco - ty for the invite for wave, I wish I could use my google apps address for itDec 14 22:27
trmancowooshDec 14 22:27
trmancoyou're welcomeDec 14 22:27
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Ender2070weird, anyways ill be backDec 14 22:30
trmancowhy can't these people act like real people and come in with a real name?Dec 14 22:30
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] You know you're popular when you have to sue everyone for GPL violations, congratulations #BusyBox http://ur1.ca/huweDec 14 22:46
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DaemonFCKyoto Protocol = "Dear United States, if you would gladly cut your greenhouse gas emissions in half while we can continue to merrily bench out whatever we want, when we want, we'll have an easier time undercutting your factories and workers. Sincerely, China and the rest of the Third World. PS: If you could also send another $3-$5 trillion to hopeless money pits, that would be super! Byeeeeee!!!"Dec 14 22:48
DaemonFC*belch outDec 14 22:48
MinceRfailDec 14 22:54
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byrd-Hagel_ResolutionDec 14 22:58
phIRCe-localTitle: Byrd-Hagel Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 17.83 KBDec 14 22:58
DaemonFC:)Dec 14 22:58
MinceRyour spin still failsDec 14 22:59
DaemonFCit basically imposes no limits on third world countriesDec 14 23:00
DaemonFCand has little effect on small economiesDec 14 23:00
DaemonFCKyoto is 100% a "Fuck the US" treatyDec 14 23:00
MinceRcheck the list againDec 14 23:00
DaemonFCand there is no way in hell we should ratify itDec 14 23:00
MinceRrealize that it isn't only 3rd-world countriesDec 14 23:00
MinceRget a fucking clueDec 14 23:00
MinceRyes, there's no way in hell you should take part in trying to avert a global catastrophe you're causingDec 14 23:00
schestowitzMinceR: let me find a map.......Dec 14 23:01
MinceRespecially when a lot of you bible-thumping idiots believe it isn't even happeningDec 14 23:01
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MinceRalso, i don't think it's especially difficult to realize why it affects 3rd-world countries lessDec 14 23:02
DaemonFCwhere's the catastrophe?Dec 14 23:02
DaemonFCthey can never tell you thatDec 14 23:02
DaemonFCit does't affect China and Mexico because they want another advantage over our economyDec 14 23:02
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010879.htmlDec 14 23:03
phIRCe-localTitle: Worldchanging: Bright Green: A Global Perspective on US Climate Emissions .::. Size~: 47.77 KBDec 14 23:03
schestowitzMinceR: watch it too. http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010879.htmlDec 14 23:03
DaemonFCthe thing was written that way to be malicious to the United States, onlyDec 14 23:03
phIRCe-localTitle: Worldchanging: Bright Green: A Global Perspective on US Climate Emissions .::. Size~: 47.77 KBDec 14 23:03
schestowitzI should have it bookmarkedDec 14 23:03
schestowitzTook a while to fetch backDec 14 23:03
schestowitz[23:02] <DaemonFC> where's the catastrophe?Dec 14 23:03
schestowitzWatch MaldivesDec 14 23:03
schestowitzThey are being drownedDec 14 23:03
MinceRDaemonFC: you'll find out once Florida turns into sea floorDec 14 23:03
schestowitzBecause of people who play for Big Oil like you doDec 14 23:03
MinceRs/sea/ocean/Dec 14 23:04
DaemonFCthat map is biased tooDec 14 23:04
schestowitzMaybe it'll be like Cambodia with floating condosDec 14 23:04
DaemonFCa lot of US states are actually bigger than the countries he compares carbon emmissions toDec 14 23:04
schestowitzAnd canoeDec 14 23:04
DaemonFCand have higher populationsDec 14 23:04
DaemonFCIrelan isn't even as large as Indiana in terms of landDec 14 23:05
DaemonFC*IrelandDec 14 23:05
schestowitzI wonder how CHina fits itDec 14 23:05
schestowitzIndia is small in terms of pollutionDec 14 23:05
schestowitzLike 1 US stateDec 14 23:06
DaemonFCChina is one of the filthiest countries (in terms of pollution), there's actually a smog cloud that goes out over the ocean and hovers over CaliforniaDec 14 23:06
MinceRchina isn't on the map, it's probably pollutes too muchDec 14 23:06
schestowitzBut CHina manufactures stuff for the rest of the worldDec 14 23:06
DaemonFCif anyone wants to talk about polluters that need limitsDec 14 23:06
schestowitzWell, China at least produces stuffDec 14 23:06
schestowitzThe fumes don't come from people who drive interstate and cruise boatsDec 14 23:07
MinceRchina produces stuff for usian megacorporations :>Dec 14 23:07
schestowitzIt comes from the world's factoriesDec 14 23:07
schestowitzMinceR: no env. regulation thereDec 14 23:07
MinceRexactlyDec 14 23:07
DaemonFCthe companies go there in large part to circumvent the United States laws about pollution of all kindsDec 14 23:07
schestowitzSo, well... it's cheaper for them to just leak the poisons into a river somewhereDec 14 23:07
schestowitzSad, but trueDec 14 23:07
DaemonFCsame reason they go to MexicoDec 14 23:07
DaemonFCthe Rio Grande is clean going into Mexico, and comes back into the US filthy and pollutedDec 14 23:08
DaemonFCcould probably set it on fireDec 14 23:08
DaemonFCfactories down there dump anything they like wherever they wantDec 14 23:08
DaemonFCMexico's environmental law says if you look or report what's going on, they arrest YOUDec 14 23:08
DaemonFCschestowitz: Mexico's carbon emissions are nowhere near as bad as China's, but they do dump a lot of industrial waste into rivers and suchDec 14 23:09
DaemonFCa lot of which heads back into the United States for us to deal withDec 14 23:10
schestowitzRoyal treatment... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUI4ITCLcA0Dec 14 23:10
DaemonFCMexico is like a bad neighbor that keeps throwing trash all over your lawn and playing the music too lousDec 14 23:10
DaemonFCthen the house gets too packed so they break into yours and set up shopDec 14 23:11
schestowitzHypocriteDec 14 23:11
DaemonFCand the police won't get rid of them or charge them with anythingDec 14 23:11
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 14 23:11
MinceRmexico's conduct is no excuse for the usaDec 14 23:11
schestowitz*ROTL*Dec 14 23:11
schestowitzWho's playing the music too loud?Dec 14 23:11
DaemonFCthe Mexican extended family and everyone they've ever met all living in an efficiency apartment which burns down in the middle of winter cause they were heating the SOB with the overDec 14 23:12
DaemonFC*ovenDec 14 23:12
DaemonFC:PDec 14 23:12
DaemonFCthey'll be like one legal US citizen living over there so he can get food stamps for everyone on his cardDec 14 23:13
DaemonFCand they use the emergency room for anything cause they'll never pay the bill anywayDec 14 23:13
DaemonFCon some level you have to feel bad for them if that is better than living in Mexico, I supposeDec 14 23:14
schestowitzThey are humans just like youDec 14 23:14
Omar87I'm trying to think of an elegant, stylish name for my new website, can you guys please help me?Dec 14 23:14
schestowitzShame on your attitudeDec 14 23:14
Omar87What about "Omar's Realm"?Dec 14 23:14
schestowitzOmar87: MegatronSupra!Dec 14 23:14
Omar87schestowitz: 0_oDec 14 23:15
schestowitzRyansattic?Dec 14 23:15
MinceROmar87's Little Blog?Dec 14 23:15
DaemonFCschestowitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeanerDec 14 23:15
phIRCe-localTitle: Beaner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 21.03 KBDec 14 23:15
Omar87schestowitz: Why don't you just say "Ryan Seacrest"?:DDec 14 23:16
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schestowitzIKnowWhatYouDidLastSupper?Dec 14 23:16
MinceRElegantStylishNamedWebsiteDec 14 23:16
Omar87schestowitz: What do you think of "Omar's Realm"?Dec 14 23:16
schestowitzCamelCaseOrgDec 14 23:17
schestowitzRealm is patronisingDec 14 23:17
Omar87MinceR: LOL!Dec 14 23:17
schestowitzMyLumpOhILoveMyLadyLumpsDec 14 23:18
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Puerto Ricans are just as bad, but you can't get rid of them cause they all have US citizenshipDec 14 23:18
DaemonFC:PDec 14 23:18
schestowitzShut up, DaemonFCDec 14 23:18
DaemonFCschestowitz: Live with them for a while and say thatDec 14 23:18
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Omar87schestowitz: Ya know something? I sometimes envy you for your long temper. If it was me who's managing this channel now, DaemonFC wouldn't be spending another splitsecond in it.Dec 14 23:20
DaemonFCOmar87: Piss be upon youDec 14 23:20
DaemonFC:)Dec 14 23:20
schestowitzYou're a war mongerDec 14 23:21
Omar87DaemonFC: I wasn't talking to you.Dec 14 23:21
schestowitzHe's just provoking cause he's boredDec 14 23:21
schestowitzTalk to the car, RyanDec 14 23:21
schestowitz*cat/car/cat/petDec 14 23:21
MinceRs/car/hand/Dec 14 23:22
MinceR('cause the face ain't listening)Dec 14 23:22
Omar87schestowitz: That's right, it's one his histerical frenzies, ya know.Dec 14 23:23
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Omar87one *of* hisDec 14 23:24
*DaemonFC straps a bomb on, bites his tongue, and.......Dec 14 23:24
DaemonFCn/m :)Dec 14 23:24
Omar87schestowitz: Dec 14 23:26
Omar87schestowitz: So, what other names can you think of?Dec 14 23:26
DaemonFChttp://www.jesusdressup.com/Dec 14 23:29
phIRCe-localTitle: Christmas Jesus Dress Up! .::. Size~: 29.89 KBDec 14 23:29
DaemonFChttp://www.normalbobsmith.com/store/magnetshalloween.htmlDec 14 23:31
phIRCe-localTitle: Jesus Magnets/NormalBobSmith.com .::. Size~: 27.11 KBDec 14 23:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Trying to come up with a good, simple but elegant name for his website. Anyone has a good suggestion?Dec 14 23:35
schestowitzOmar87: what's the site about?Dec 14 23:38
schestowitzIt depends on the themeDec 14 23:38
Omar87schestowitz: many things.Dec 14 23:39
schestowitzIs manythings.org taken?Dec 14 23:39
schestowitzhttp://manythings.orgDec 14 23:39
phIRCe-localTitle: Interesting Things for ESL/EFL Students (Fun English Study) .::. Size~: 9.63 KBDec 14 23:39
schestowitzhttp://manlythings.orgDec 14 23:39
phIRCe-localTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBDec 14 23:39
schestowitzThere.Dec 14 23:39
schestowitzAvailableDec 14 23:39
Omar87schestowitz: partly technical (e.g: Linux, Python, Plone, Free Software.. etc.) and partly general or personal.Dec 14 23:40
Omar87schestowitz: umm, yup! It's taken, except for .biz.Dec 14 23:41
schestowitzhttp://omarism.orgDec 14 23:42
phIRCe-localTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBDec 14 23:42
MinceR:DDec 14 23:43
MinceRomaricityDec 14 23:43
schestowitzOman CityDec 14 23:46
Omar87What about: "Tuxations"?Dec 14 23:46
MinceRsounds too much like "taxations"Dec 14 23:47
MinceRTuxilicious?Dec 14 23:47
Omar87MinceR: oh, yeah, that's right.Dec 14 23:47
Omar87MinceR: Sounds musical! I'll consider it. :)Dec 14 23:48
Omar87Thanks. ^^Dec 14 23:48
MinceR:)Dec 14 23:49
MinceRcheck that it isn't taken thoughDec 14 23:49
MinceRhttp://www.viruscomix.com/page503.htmlDec 14 23:50
phIRCe-localTitle: adventures in Crag County .::. Size~: 3.09 KBDec 14 23:50
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Al Gore Votes for #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/hv10 http://ur1.ca/hv11Dec 14 23:55
phIRCe-localTitle: What would Al Gore use? .::. Size~: 30.67 KBDec 14 23:55
Omar87MinceR: nope! It's available. :)Dec 14 23:55
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DaemonFChttp://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,877155,00.html?iid=digg_shareDec 14 23:55
phIRCe-localTitle: Can Atheists Be Parents? - TIME .::. Size~: 46.55 KBDec 14 23:55
schestowitzTuxations sounds like what Microsoft wants to make from TuxDec 14 23:58
schestowitzOmar87: Tux is kernelDec 14 23:59
schestowitzIf you cover python, then it's not Linux anymoreDec 14 23:59
schestowitzPhoronix is one of the few _Linux_ sitesDec 14 23:59
schestowitzKernel Trap used to be active tooDec 14 23:59
Omar87schestowitz: No.Dec 14 23:59

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