| schestowitz | Maybe 03 too | Dec 16 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | I remember reading about it when on the Birmingham train at night | Dec 16 00:00 |
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| _goblin | Right....Ive made sure that there can be no confusion with the "Microsoft blames" followup article. | Dec 16 00:04 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Best advice for LUGs.. "LUGMaster rule No1 - check the lug meet doesn't coincide with karaoke night". @b1ackcr0w pls post audio! :) | Dec 16 00:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/50centdoctor1.html | Dec 16 00:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-12-15-021-35-NW-BZ-0000 | Dec 16 00:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - Best Buy Caught in GPL Tussle .::. Size~: 77.03 KB | Dec 16 00:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] i just got a new #wikimedia job: OTRS photosubmissions queue is *way* backed up. i'll be diving in tomorrow. good lord, what a day. | Dec 16 00:22 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @b1ackcr0w @popey I can't even #blamepopey for this rather silly error! http://tinyurl.com/yaeaszy - yay! (hope tomorrow is ok b1ackcr0w) | Dec 16 00:35 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting audio/mpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 16 00:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] An email has arrived in my inbox which details a possible exciting #oggcamp 2010. Secretly I want this to happen. Don't tell anyone! #fb | Dec 16 00:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/ff_end_air_war/ | Dec 16 00:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: How the Afghanistan Air War Got Stuck in the Sky | Magazine .::. Size~: 99 KB | Dec 16 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Your peacemaker | Dec 16 00:41 |
| schestowitz | pacemaker too | Dec 16 00:41 |
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| DaemonFC | peace is only ever temporary | Dec 16 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | the countries that don't provoke wars are the ones without the military equipment to do it | Dec 16 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | I could have understood the CIA backing both sides in the Iran-Iraq war, we should have tried to keep it going | Dec 16 00:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/usrussia_cyber.html | Dec 16 00:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Schneier on Security: U.S./Russia Cyber Arms Control Talks .::. Size~: 52.29 KB | Dec 16 00:51 |
| DBO | schestowitz not to be a troll but Desktop Drapes is a mono app that you featured in your site... | Dec 16 00:51 |
| DBO | (please dont credit me with anything) | Dec 16 00:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/15/limited-edition-slip.html | Dec 16 00:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Limited edition, slipcased LITTLE BROTHER with CC licensed original art and endpapers Boing Boing .::. Size~: 73.01 KB | Dec 16 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Good title | Dec 16 00:55 |
| schestowitz | DBO: I didn't know it was Mono | Dec 16 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the info | Dec 16 00:56 |
| neighborlee | DaemonFC: Tell that to Canada ;) | Dec 16 00:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/luckybackup-a-powerful-fast-and-reliable-backup-sync-tool.html | Dec 16 00:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Luckybackup - A powerful, fast and reliable backup & sync tool | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 47.53 KB | Dec 16 00:58 |
| schestowitz | neighborlee: they argue over whose country is more of a police state... methinking China is almost a leader | Dec 16 00:58 |
| neighborlee | lol | Dec 16 00:58 |
| DBO | schestowitz I wouldn't pull it down from the site, will look sloppy, just ignore it | Dec 16 00:59 |
| schestowitz | THe police here has toys with high voltage now | Dec 16 00:59 |
| neighborlee | schestowitz,yes but in 2012 they are going to herald in a new era, as soliders welcome those fleeing destruction into one of their new ships :) | Dec 16 01:00 |
| schestowitz | DBO: I wasn't going to pull it | Dec 16 01:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Another Google service – goo.gl – One service too many? http://tinyurl.com/ydxskkw #google #goo.gl | Dec 16 01:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Another Google service goo.gl One service too many? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 33.76 KB | Dec 16 01:00 |
| schestowitz | I heard of Drapes before, didn't know it had underlying c# | Dec 16 01:00 |
| DBO | schestowitz what should Tomboy users switch to now that GNote is unmaintained btw? | Dec 16 01:01 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/vancouver-orders-removal-of-anti-olympic-mural/article1396541/ | Dec 16 01:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Vancouver orders removal of anti-Olympic mural - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 88.56 KB | Dec 16 01:03 |
| schestowitz | DBO: it's maintained | Dec 16 01:04 |
| DBO | schestowitz it hasn't seen a code commit in months? | Dec 16 01:04 |
| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/364731/ | Dec 16 01:04 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New releases from Tomboy and Gnote [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 14.62 KB | Dec 16 01:04 |
| DBO | oh I stand corrected | Dec 16 01:04 |
| schestowitz | "Debarshi Ray stepped up to take over as Gnote maintainer." | Dec 16 01:05 |
| DBO | schestowitz no I dont, looking at the git log, the only code commits have been to translations. Nothing else :/ | Dec 16 01:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091213/2103287328.shtml Apple pro dRM | Dec 16 01:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Apple & Audiobook Firms Insist On DRM | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.02 KB | Dec 16 01:06 |
| schestowitz | DBO: does the job | Dec 16 01:06 |
| schestowitz | It just needed a maintainer for obvious reasons | Dec 16 01:06 |
| schestowitz | http://thenextweb.com/2009/12/14/microsoft-blatantly-steals-startup-plurk-stunned-confused/ | Dec 16 01:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Blatantly Steals From Startup? [Updated] .::. Size~: 87.3 KB | Dec 16 01:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/real_id/ | Dec 16 01:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Move to National ID Cards Delayed | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 98.05 KB | Dec 16 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have one of those, schestowitz | Dec 16 01:09 |
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| DaemonFC | my driver's license was last changed in January of 2007 | Dec 16 01:09 |
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| DaemonFC | they didn't start issuing these until late 2009 in Indiana | Dec 16 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | err 2008 I mean | Dec 16 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | if I had to update anything on my license, I would get one of the new REAL ID compliant ones | Dec 16 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | or on April 11, 2012 when this one expires | Dec 16 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Hmmm..... mine is due to expire soon too | Dec 16 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | last time I renewed it was in 2006 | Dec 16 01:11 |
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| willimm | Hey everyone | Dec 16 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | took three trips back and forth and then they were still arguing about where I lived | Dec 16 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The service address for my cable bill says "421 1/2 Apt B" | Dec 16 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | there is no such address cause the new landlord redid the numbering scheme so I live at 421 Apt C | Dec 16 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | but they were arguing that they had to go by what the cable bill said | Dec 16 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Oh, never mind, it's renewed. Valid until 2016 | Dec 16 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | finally I convinced their supervisor to put down 421 Apt C | Dec 16 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | I said "If the police ever come looking for me, B and C are only 5 feet away from each other" | Dec 16 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | I've thought about arguing this with the post office, but I have an idea that I wouldn't get anywhere and it's easier to just tell everyone to put 421 Apt C | Dec 16 01:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Looking at another "kiosk" distro. Makes me appreciate how polished xPUD is. #linux #foss #chromeos | Dec 16 01:15 | |
| schestowitz | You can hide under your bed ;-) | Dec 16 01:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/14/white.house.emails/ | Dec 16 01:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Millions of Bush administration e-mails recovered - CNN.com .::. Size~: 56.84 KB | Dec 16 01:16 |
| schestowitz | Even if he was ever brought to a jail cell (which I doubt), it would not undo the damage | Dec 16 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I thought it was odd that 28 million emails conveniently disappear right before he left office | Dec 16 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 16 01:16 |
| schestowitz | THey had 'technical issues' | Dec 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | Domino-Exchange | Dec 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | No backup solution, they say | Dec 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | That's what happens when crooked neo-conservatives run a country | Dec 16 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: What amused me is that they found some of them on a "bakcup tape" | Dec 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | I don't think the country will ever recover, TBH | Dec 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | It's not a question of "when" | Dec 16 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't think anyone still used tape backups for data | Dec 16 01:17 |
| schestowitz | He doubled national debt and made the threat far greater | Dec 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Writeoff | Dec 16 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: But he allowed churches to infiltrate our government in violation of the constitution | Dec 16 01:18 |
| schestowitz | "Republicans isn't a political party, it's a mind set ... of wars and money" --Vidal | Dec 16 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | through "Faith Based Initiatives" | Dec 16 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 16 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | that's the kind of shit Christians want to see a president do | Dec 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz | And his wife Tony (not Laura) did a lot of damage as well, IMHO | Dec 16 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | not keep unemployment low | Dec 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's _not_ chaurches | Dec 16 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | if Blair was his wife then who was John Howard and Stephen Harper? | Dec 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz | It's "evangelicals" | Dec 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz | They are sometimes politicans to | Dec 16 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | his mistresses? | Dec 16 01:19 |
| schestowitz | Well, that's putting it politely | Dec 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Some say "his poodle" | Dec 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Or "Clown" (Brown) | Dec 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin is not here | Dec 16 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | funny that we got Bush and the UK, Australia, and Canada got a Mini-Bush each | Dec 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz | He'd be angry if he saw it.. :-) | Dec 16 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | don't you agree? | Dec 16 01:20 |
| schestowitz | I don't know them well enough | Dec 16 01:21 |
| schestowitz | The censorship is Conroy's hack job | Dec 16 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | well, it was like every western government of any real significance got a neocon leader at the same time | Dec 16 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | I just find the timing interesting | Dec 16 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Canada treats insults to the Olympic games like a hate crime | Dec 16 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | because it includes hockey, right? | Dec 16 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | I do hate the olympics anyway | Dec 16 01:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: [sarcasm] sounds like a Bilderberg plan... "Bill, you get the chair.... Tony will take over EU Tsar.... George Porgy will be master colonel in the wild west..." | Dec 16 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | all the corporate advertising, blocked out to web viewers who won't install Silverlight | Dec 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz | It's all money | Dec 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz | NBC | Dec 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft | Dec 16 01:24 |
| schestowitz | Forcing people to use Windows... | Dec 16 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I decided to try and watch some of it through CBC and it told me to get lost cause I wasn't in Canada | Dec 16 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | so I had to find a proxy server to watch any of it without installing Silverlight | Dec 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Jolicloud-beta/?kc=rss | Dec 16 01:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Cloud-oriented netbook distro arrives in beta - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.71 KB | Dec 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | Wow!!1 Cloud!!!!!!!!!! | Dec 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | SOA is dead | Dec 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | Long live...... "cloud"? | Dec 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | SaaS is dead too.... old term for similar brainfart | Dec 16 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | Silverlight is crapping out on them | Dec 16 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | they keep releasing new versions as if anyone wanted to use it | Dec 16 01:25 |
| schestowitz | They can't give up yet | Dec 16 01:26 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Comcast will move things | Dec 16 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | most people who have Silverlight got it as a trojan horse through Windows Updates, I believe | Dec 16 01:26 |
| schestowitz | Trojan in a Trojan? | Dec 16 01:26 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. Look. Brandon is twins! | Dec 16 01:27 |
| ender2070_ | LOL | Dec 16 01:27 |
| ender2070_ | im logged in at home too I guess | Dec 16 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Comparing Bush to a wild west cowboy is an insult to wid west cowboys, he's from New Hampshire | Dec 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz | I've just encouraged civil disobedience in Canada | Dec 16 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't see him getting into a fight with anyone that could kick his ass | Dec 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz | I'll make a lot of noise about the olympics | Dec 16 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | which is why he dodged the draft | Dec 16 01:28 |
| neighborlee | DaemonFC: you have to specifically agree to download it through windows updates, that or juts not LOOK through the updates to see what your actually getting, like I did and now why im still silverlight FREEEEEEEEEEE ;))heh | Dec 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz | They can't come and get me here | Dec 16 01:28 |
| neighborlee | bbl | Dec 16 01:28 |
| schestowitz | [01:28] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Comparing Bush to a wild west cowboy is an insult to wid west cowboys, he's from New Hampshire | Dec 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Yes, which is bad for electibility | Dec 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz | That's why he fakes being a Texan | Dec 16 01:29 |
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| schestowitz | Mr. Ranch man.... cutting trunks and making grammar mistakes.. | Dec 16 01:29 |
| schestowitz | His dad also used PR tricks to get elected | Dec 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz | He was gonna lose in 1988 | Dec 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Then the PR people stepped in | Dec 16 01:30 |
| ender2070_ | his grandfather tried to overthrow the government | Dec 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Elections are like contests between two PR teams | Dec 16 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Rick Perry was Bush's Lt. Governor, and Perry is still the governor of Texas :P | Dec 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Reminds you of those boxer in a ring with dudes surrounding them... | Dec 16 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | you know, the governor that seems to think they can legally secede..... | Dec 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz | *boxers | Dec 16 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | crazy shit | Dec 16 01:30 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: the same grandpa Bush who sold weapons to the Nazis? | Dec 16 01:31 |
| schestowitz | I forgot his first name | Dec 16 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Prescott | Dec 16 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 16 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | and he didn't sell weapons | Dec 16 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | he was a money launderer | Dec 16 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | helped them buy weapons with laundered money | Dec 16 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Ah, OK | Dec 16 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Just a nasty rumour then, I guess. | Dec 16 01:32 |
| schestowitz | I.B.M. in its younger days had some business going on int he Third Reich | Dec 16 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | meh, he enabled them to buy military equipment that otherwise would have drawn attention | Dec 16 01:32 |
| ender2070_ | yes, prescott bush | Dec 16 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | stockpile it all and grow their army in ways that seemed benign to the treaty | Dec 16 01:32 |
| schestowitz | I heard it was parts of bombs | Dec 16 01:32 |
| schestowitz | Time bombs or something | Dec 16 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | really fast "mail carrier" planes that became fighters | Dec 16 01:33 |
| ender2070_ | more than a nasty rumor | Dec 16 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | if your family is connected, you can make anything go away | Dec 16 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | if they weren't, he would have been hung for treason | Dec 16 01:33 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Well, anyway, his grandson George found a worthy big fan: http://www.arnoldexposed.com/ | Dec 16 01:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Arnold Exposed .::. Size~: 18.45 KB | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | The son of an SS nazi officer, | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Schwarzenegger has publicly stated that | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | he has dreamed of being a dictator and that he | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | admires Hitler. He campaigned for war criminal | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Kurt Waldhiem after it had been made public that he | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | was a top nazi. | Dec 16 01:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 01:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If you live in Canada, please make a lot of noise against the #olympics merely to defend #freespeech | Dec 16 01:35 | |
| ender2070_ | yeah | Dec 16 01:35 |
| ender2070_ | arnold sucks | Dec 16 01:35 |
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| schestowitz | sucks steroids | Dec 16 01:35 |
| _goblin | here we go.....a answer to can we "steal" data (in accordance with theft act)........ | Dec 16 01:35 |
| schestowitz | Highly cited article... | Dec 16 01:36 |
| ender2070_ | oh yeah i forgot about the olympics | Dec 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | ' | Dec 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany. | Dec 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism. | Dec 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 01:36 |
| _goblin | Sec (1) Theft Act says "To dishonestly appropriate properly belonging to the other with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it" ........... my revised version says: | Dec 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: theft act is just some words on paper | Dec 16 01:36 |
| ender2070_ | "His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act" | Dec 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | Written by lawyers probably | Dec 16 01:36 |
| _goblin | "To dishonestly appropriate property either physical or intellectual belonging to the other, either with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it or by taking such property by means of duplication with the intention of assuming ownership, gain or otherwise not in accordance of the others wishes.” | Dec 16 01:36 |
| schestowitz | "If thought can corrupt language, then language can also corrupt thought." --George Orwell | Dec 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz | Have they already put words like "pirate" in the law too? | Dec 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz | The RIAA/MPAA just need to found the key people in panels | Dec 16 01:37 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: I still think Pirate is valid in the computing world (when you look back to the old scene days) | Dec 16 01:37 |
| schestowitz | Sec (1) Theft Act says "To dishonestly appropriate properly belonging to the other with the intention to permanently deprive the other of it" | Dec 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz | "permanently deprive the other of it" | Dec 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz | If I copy your code you still have yours | Dec 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Thus it's not "theft" | Dec 16 01:38 |
| _goblin | yes but one could argue that the loss of revenue is the theft part | Dec 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz | That's different | Dec 16 01:38 |
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| schestowitz | Moved goalposts | Dec 16 01:38 |
| _goblin | true... | Dec 16 01:38 |
| schestowitz | You then need to redefine it | Dec 16 01:38 |
| _goblin | thats my new legislation above! | Dec 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Yours? | Dec 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see........ | Dec 16 01:39 |
| _goblin | yep... | Dec 16 01:39 |
| _goblin | thought Id act like a politician and re-write law to suit my own ideas. | Dec 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz | UK legislator with a spark for Linux. | Dec 16 01:39 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: Did you hear me when I mention that the TPM isn't used for it's original purpose anymore? | Dec 16 01:39 |
| schestowitz | Or pseudo-one | Dec 16 01:39 |
| yuhong | http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html | Dec 16 01:40 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Evil Maid goes after TrueCrypt! .::. Size~: 106.44 KB | Dec 16 01:40 |
| _goblin | having said that..... | Dec 16 01:40 |
| _goblin | Roy, quick question for you..... | Dec 16 01:40 |
| _goblin | You hire a skip to get rid of household rubbish..... | Dec 16 01:40 |
| _goblin | I come along and put my fridge in it, refusing to move it...... | Dec 16 01:40 |
| _goblin | whats the offence? | Dec 16 01:41 |
| _goblin | (if any) | Dec 16 01:41 |
| yuhong | http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/01/why-do-i-miss-microsoft-bitlocker.html | Dec 16 01:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Why do I miss Microsoft BitLocker? .::. Size~: 58.46 KB | Dec 16 01:41 |
| ender2070_ | thse are real pirates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5dVBezF9k | Dec 16 01:41 |
| schestowitz | The skip might be your property | Dec 16 01:41 |
| schestowitz | You can't put a fridge on my car, either | Dec 16 01:42 |
| _goblin | Theft of space....you have paid for a volume of "space". Ive deprived you of that "space" that you've paid for. | Dec 16 01:42 |
| _goblin | you can check up on that if you find it hard to believe. | Dec 16 01:42 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: arrrrrrrrr AA | Dec 16 01:42 |
| yuhong | Yes, Trusted Computing as it was originally conceived deserve the name "Treacherous Computing". | Dec 16 01:43 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: how does this relate? | Dec 16 01:44 |
| ender2070_ | they got an evil made attack to work with TPM + Bitlocker | Dec 16 01:44 |
| ender2070_ | maid* | Dec 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | By the way, ender2070_'s video shows what "movie piracy" really means | Dec 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | I saw it before | Dec 16 01:45 |
| ender2070_ | :) | Dec 16 01:45 |
| _goblin | Space, data......same sort of theme? | Dec 16 01:45 |
| ender2070_ | someone linked it here before | Dec 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | ender2070_: maybe Joanna is the maid | Dec 16 01:45 |
| _goblin | the point was "property" does not have to be tangible. | Dec 16 01:45 |
| _goblin | for it to be stolen | Dec 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: no! | Dec 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Space is limited | Dec 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Data is now | Dec 16 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5dVBezF9k | Dec 16 01:45 |
| schestowitz | You cannot duplicate free disk space | Dec 16 01:45 |
| _goblin | not really, since you can pile a skip high.... | Dec 16 01:46 |
| schestowitz | If you could, you'd get a Nobel prize for the method | Dec 16 01:46 |
| yuhong | I know about the problems with word "piracy". | Dec 16 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's what video piracy is :P | Dec 16 01:46 |
| _goblin | Piracy for me is relevant....look at the way of the old crack scene. | Dec 16 01:46 |
| schestowitz | /now/not/ | Dec 16 01:46 |
| _goblin | take a title....assume control of it by removing copy protection, release it with a trainer and share it. | Dec 16 01:47 |
| _goblin | like a pirate | Dec 16 01:47 |
| _goblin | board a ship, assume control, blunder the goods | Dec 16 01:47 |
| _goblin | *plunder | Dec 16 01:47 |
| _goblin | **me hearties. | Dec 16 01:47 |
| yuhong | It came from software, BTW. | Dec 16 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbTuo2iKoyQ&feature=related | Dec 16 01:48 |
| _goblin | also the crackers were considered "outlaws" so the piracy word fit... | Dec 16 01:48 |
| _goblin | you see the problem with not being able to steal data, poses the question "What if someone takes your personal info off a database without your concent...what offence is it there?" | Dec 16 01:49 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: Anyway, did you see what I just said about TPM. | Dec 16 01:49 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: see my reply in the comments | Dec 16 01:50 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: I didn't read carefully | Dec 16 01:51 |
| schestowitz | But it overrides through boot | Dec 16 01:51 |
| yuhong | Yep. | Dec 16 01:51 |
| yuhong | And the TPM can prevent it. | Dec 16 01:51 |
| yuhong | Yes, Trusted Computing as it was originally conceived deserve the name "Treacherous Computing". | Dec 16 01:52 |
| schestowitz | So can prudence | Dec 16 01:52 |
| schestowitz | THere is no cure for carelessness | Dec 16 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/30059/1141/ | Dec 16 01:54 |
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| yuhong | Anyway, they did mention TrueCrypt's argument. | Dec 16 01:55 |
| yuhong | http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html | Dec 16 01:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Evil Maid goes after TrueCrypt! .::. Size~: 106.44 KB | Dec 16 01:56 |
| yuhong | You should read the blog article. | Dec 16 01:56 |
| schestowitz | It's long :-) | Dec 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWt2WEAQQyc | Dec 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | my first PC game | Dec 16 01:56 |
| schestowitz | Needs sound bite | Dec 16 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Dec 16 01:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: can't be | Dec 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | You're 25 | Dec 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | So unless you started gaming at 12, it's not quite right | Dec 16 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | well, Windows PC game, I should have said that | Dec 16 01:57 |
| yuhong | Yes, but your argument sounds like TrueCrypt's argument? | Dec 16 01:57 |
| yuhong | Yes, but your argument sounds like TrueCrypt's argument. | Dec 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | I think that Descend was the first game I played in multiplayer mode | Dec 16 01:57 |
| schestowitz | Then there was Warcraft | Dec 16 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | one of the first game that used DirectX 3 | Dec 16 01:58 |
| schestowitz | We played that at the school's lab, over Novell protocols | Dec 16 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | it was more of a technical demo of DX 3 than a game, but it was fun | Dec 16 01:58 |
| yuhong | TrueCrypt's argument is under "1. Protect your laptop when you leave it alone" | Dec 16 01:58 |
| schestowitz | Back then it was really sort of revolutionary playing games on the network | Dec 16 01:58 |
| schestowitz | Just before people had home Internet in most homes | Dec 16 01:58 |
| schestowitz | Later came FIFA 98... | Dec 16 01:59 |
| yuhong | How the TPM can help is under "2. The Trusted Computing Approach" | Dec 16 01:59 |
| schestowitz | I think I still have it on CD... | Dec 16 01:59 |
| schestowitz | NHL too | Dec 16 01:59 |
| _goblin | my average readerbase took an increase for last week...814 UIP's a day now....Im well chuffed. | Dec 16 02:00 |
| _goblin | although this week I seem to be thriving...1000 (roughly at the moment) | Dec 16 02:00 |
| yuhong | In the article. | Dec 16 02:00 |
| yuhong | A temp solution is under "3. The Poor Man’s Solution". | Dec 16 02:01 |
| yuhong | But it has a few problems. | Dec 16 02:01 |
| schestowitz | http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/leave-the-num-lock-on/ | Dec 16 02:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Leave the Num Lock On! | Ubuntu Linux Help .::. Size~: 65.93 KB | Dec 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: your RSS could be broken | Dec 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | I got 10 "new" items | Dec 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | None until now | Dec 16 02:03 |
| yuhong | These are if you don't want to read the full article. | Dec 16 02:04 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: oh right... | Dec 16 02:04 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: strange since I havent messed with anything.... | Dec 16 02:04 |
| yuhong | My point is that there are good uses for TPM too. | Dec 16 02:04 |
| yuhong | It is true that the original Trusted Computing plan was horribly bad. | Dec 16 02:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.catonmat.net/blog/recursive-regular-expressions/ | Dec 16 02:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Recursive Regular Expressions - good coders code, great reuse .::. Size~: 54.44 KB | Dec 16 02:05 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Dec 16 02:05 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: same problem in Microsoft-Watch | Dec 16 02:05 |
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| _goblin | schestowitz: yep your right..... | Dec 16 02:06 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: 10 posts all at 2am | Dec 16 02:06 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: must be a wordpress issue... | Dec 16 02:06 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: I wonder how many people that has hit.... | Dec 16 02:07 |
| ender2070_ | ?? | Dec 16 02:07 |
| ender2070_ | what about wordpress | Dec 16 02:07 |
| _goblin | rss feed | Dec 16 02:07 |
| _goblin | seems to be having issues | Dec 16 02:07 |
| _goblin | I havent messed with anything on my site so I can only assume its a wordpress issue | Dec 16 02:08 |
| _goblin | Im going to do a Microsoft here...... | Dec 16 02:08 |
| _goblin | "Goblin blames Wordpress for a dodgy RSS feed" | Dec 16 02:08 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: this one smells like spam. http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/review-xpud-0-9-2/#comment-2310 | Dec 16 02:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: REVIEW xPUD 0.9.2 « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 41.29 KB | Dec 16 02:09 |
| schestowitz | The familiar pattern, but no URL, so maybe not | Dec 16 02:09 |
| _goblin | I thought it was just another blog aggregator. | Dec 16 02:09 |
| _goblin | If those don't get filtered by Akismet I tend simply to leave em. | Dec 16 02:09 |
| schestowitz | spam pattern: "I like this blog so much, keep it up!" | Dec 16 02:10 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes: "great post, so much new information..." | Dec 16 02:10 |
| _goblin | sounds like an intelligent reader ;) | Dec 16 02:10 |
| schestowitz | Something along those lines | Dec 16 02:10 |
| schestowitz | Nothing that speaks about the post itself | Dec 16 02:10 |
| schestowitz | I get a lot of this spam in my personal blog | Dec 16 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I found it on a torrent | Dec 16 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | wonder if it still works on Windows 7 | Dec 16 02:10 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: well, that's why you keep it | Dec 16 02:10 |
| schestowitz | That's the brilliant of the spam | Dec 16 02:11 |
| ender2070_ | I blame Microsoft | Dec 16 02:11 |
| ender2070_ | if anything is wrong with wordpress | Dec 16 02:11 |
| schestowitz | It usually plants some spam link with flattery to the spammed blog | Dec 16 02:11 |
| _goblin | to be honest, if Akismet doesn't block it and its not vulgar I don't bother removing.... | Dec 16 02:11 |
| ender2070_ | ohhh I see those all the time | Dec 16 02:11 |
| ender2070_ | akismet usually catches them | Dec 16 02:11 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: for pictures, use StockXchange | Dec 16 02:11 |
| _goblin | nah.... | Dec 16 02:12 |
| _goblin | twitpic | Dec 16 02:12 |
| schestowitz | Is it free to use? | Dec 16 02:12 |
| _goblin | yeah and it auto announces on your twitter account...(if you want) | Dec 16 02:12 |
| _goblin | its a nice little service.....saves alot of time. | Dec 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz | http://twitpic.com/toxrr | Dec 16 02:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: I miss when I actually HAD style. on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.46 KB | Dec 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmm I'm just browsing from the front page | Dec 16 02:13 |
| schestowitz | Doesn't name a licence there | Dec 16 02:13 |
| _goblin | very handy for things like this: | Dec 16 02:14 |
| _goblin | http://www.twitpic.com/slfh5 | Dec 16 02:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Recent Chromium bug filed. Gfx gliches appear when using the ... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 8.72 KB | Dec 16 02:14 |
| ender2070_ | that is pretty interesting | Dec 16 02:14 |
| _goblin | and people can place comments....and like I say it gets published on my twiiter account. | Dec 16 02:14 |
| ender2070_ | the home page is hyponizing | Dec 16 02:14 |
| ender2070_ | realtime twits of people uploading photos | Dec 16 02:15 |
| _goblin | and for those that haven't seen it (you better like this) | Dec 16 02:15 |
| ender2070_ | and it plots it on a google maps window where they are | Dec 16 02:15 |
| _goblin | http://www.twitpic.com/l4q5a | Dec 16 02:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: My son in high spirits after removing MONO from his favorite ... on Twitpic .::. Size~: 8.57 KB | Dec 16 02:15 |
| _goblin | notice who has commented..... | Dec 16 02:15 |
| _goblin | an online friend of mine.... | Dec 16 02:15 |
| _goblin | Indiana Gregg | Dec 16 02:15 |
| _goblin | now if only I could strike up a conversation with Paris Hilton.......... | Dec 16 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | conversation? | Dec 16 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Dec 16 02:19 |
| schestowitz | She'd say, "like sooooooooooo coool" | Dec 16 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | is that a code word or 44 hits of ecstasy and night vision lens for your camcorder? | Dec 16 02:19 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: Yep....Mark my words. I will speak with Paris one day....She can become a Linux advocate. | Dec 16 02:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft-funded propaganda. http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/12/bing_tops_10_but_at_the_expense_of_yahoo_not_google.html | Dec 16 02:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bing surpasses 10%, but at the expense of Yahoo, not Google .::. Size~: 45.65 KB | Dec 16 02:20 |
| schestowitz | This blog is funded by Microsoft and it lies again | Dec 16 02:20 |
| schestowitz | Bong is NOT 10% | Dec 16 02:20 |
| schestowitz | Ferchristsake | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | They use local/biased fogures | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | How desparate | Dec 16 02:21 |
| _goblin | lol | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | More people should write about how Microsoft lies | Dec 16 02:21 |
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| schestowitz | It has Bong sponsor blogs | Dec 16 02:21 |
| _goblin | just looked at that site Roy...... | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Like TechFlash | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | And then they use US-only nonsense | Dec 16 02:21 |
| _goblin | its just crashed Chromium | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | To deceive people | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Many people actually think it's the global # | Dec 16 02:21 |
| _goblin | first site Ive ever seen do that.... | Dec 16 02:21 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/08/paris-hilton-tinkerbell-linux.html | Dec 16 02:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBspot - Paris Hilton Releases Tinkerbell Linux .::. Size~: 23.34 KB | Dec 16 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Judge on South Park: "I'm doing this to send a strong message that if anyone wants to hurt another human being, you better make damned well sure......they're the same color as you are!" | Dec 16 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | hehehe | Dec 16 02:22 |
| _goblin | lol thats great......Paris Hilton uses linux! | Dec 16 02:22 |
| _goblin | thats definately tux | Dec 16 02:23 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: it's a Microsoft site... maybe it's trying to kill Chrome tabs to make it look bad ;-) | Dec 16 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | does it power her vibrator or her blow dryer? | Dec 16 02:23 |
| _goblin | I'll submit that as a bug report... | Dec 16 02:23 |
| _goblin | chromium is not liking that site at all | Dec 16 02:23 |
| schestowitz | Well, that site does not like CHromium | Dec 16 02:23 |
| _goblin | talking of Chrome....I saw an advert today for it on a billboard near the station. | Dec 16 02:24 |
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| schestowitz | It's a Microsoft PR farm | Dec 16 02:24 |
| _goblin | lol...Paris "comment": | Dec 16 02:24 |
| _goblin | "I think The Open Source Movement is, like, really hot." | Dec 16 02:24 |
| _goblin | I think she's talking about me there. | Dec 16 02:25 |
| _goblin | I'm surprised she doesnt bring her lawyers in on that "article" | Dec 16 02:25 |
| _goblin | It is funny though. | Dec 16 02:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Lol...Paris Hilton uses Linux? http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/08/paris-hilton-tinkerbell-linux.html - its a joke site of course! | Dec 16 02:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBspot - Paris Hilton Releases Tinkerbell Linux .::. Size~: 23.34 KB | Dec 16 02:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] At least I hope its a joke. | Dec 16 02:28 | |
| sebsebseb | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1123 | Dec 16 02:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: TechRepublic Blogs: For IT professionals, by IT professionals .::. Size~: 80.3 KB | Dec 16 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | about the BSD's | Dec 16 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | Why the BSDs get no love | Dec 16 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | that's the headline | Dec 16 02:29 |
| ender2070_ | BSD is suxx0rz | Dec 16 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | ender2070_: read the article then, I think you will like it | Dec 16 02:30 |
| ender2070_ | I have | Dec 16 02:30 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 16 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | oh you read it already? | Dec 16 02:30 |
| ender2070_ | yeah | Dec 16 02:30 |
| ender2070_ | it was linked here the other day iirc | Dec 16 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Check out the top: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States | Dec 16 02:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: President of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 431.81 KB | Dec 16 02:31 |
| schestowitz | Wales is not the founde | Dec 16 02:31 |
| schestowitz | He's co-founder | Dec 16 02:31 |
| schestowitz | He keeps distorting this, also in the press | Dec 16 02:31 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.pwnage.ca/images/boycottnovell.jpg | Dec 16 02:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 16 02:32 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.pwnage.ca/images/boycottnovell.jpg | Dec 16 02:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 16 02:33 |
| ender2070_ | fixed | Dec 16 02:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/terry-childs-another-christmas-in-jail-988 | Dec 16 02:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Terry Childs: Another Christmas in jail | Adventures in IT - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 83.1 KB | Dec 16 02:33 |
| ender2070_ | whoops | Dec 16 02:33 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 16 02:33 |
| schestowitz | Cause he didn't give his password | Dec 16 02:33 |
| schestowitz | So when will they jail Ottelini for bribery? | Dec 16 02:33 |
| schestowitz | This legal system is outrageously ridiculous | Dec 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | It's too keep the small guys powerless | Dec 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | Serves well the high interests | Dec 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | Keep the population scared | Dec 16 02:34 |
| schestowitz | At risk all the time so that they behave and give the boss all the passwords to put on some Wintendo box that will get compromised anyway | Dec 16 02:35 |
| ender2070_ | reload the url and it will be the correct picture | Dec 16 02:35 |
| ender2070_ | the bacon one was renamed to bacon.jpg | Dec 16 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Cool. | Dec 16 02:35 |
| schestowitz | I can has img? | Dec 16 02:35 |
| ender2070_ | yes | Dec 16 02:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/GNOME-Split-from-GNU-Project | Dec 16 02:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.the-source.com/2009/12/following-up-on-the-gnomegnu-fiasco/ | Dec 16 02:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Following up on the GNOME/GNU fiasco « The Source.com .::. Size~: 27.91 KB | Dec 16 02:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | the legal system only really lays the smack down on people who can't afford to defend themselves | Dec 16 02:36 |
| schestowitz | Listen people, you don’t have to agree with RMS. He’s not a god or infallible. Just stop lying about the man and what he says. Just stop lying. | Dec 16 02:36 |
| schestowitz | If it only happened once or twice, I would be generous and assume it wasn’t malicious. But it is constant, and seems to come too easy to be an honest misunderstanding. I’m tired of trying to determine if a person is misrepresenting RMS because they are a malicious liar, or merely an uninformed moron parroting a malicious liar. It is quickly become a distinction without a difference. | Dec 16 02:36 |
| schestowitz | One more thing before I move on: straw man. We see you doing it. You aren’t fooling anyone. It’s disgusting, dishonest, childish and malicious. Stop it. Stop lying. | Dec 16 02:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 02:36 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @olhe: http://perens.com/blog/2009/12/15/23/# Statement on Busybox Lawsuits #foss #linux #bruce_perens #busybox #fb | Dec 16 02:36 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Statement on Busybox Lawsuits .::. Size~: 6.64 KB | Dec 16 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | people who can't afford bail and have to sit in jail until the hearing | Dec 16 02:37 |
| ender2070_ | lol I bet those URLs draw a lot of attention because question marks aren't allowed | Dec 16 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | people who get the Public Defender qand go to jail | Dec 16 02:37 |
| ender2070_ | GNOME-Split-from-GNU-Project | Dec 16 02:37 |
| ender2070_ | ZOMG CLICK | Dec 16 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | the rich people spend 2 hours in jail while the bail goes through and get a high priced lawyer to work out a slap on the wrist with the prosecutor | Dec 16 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | a few hours of probation or something for what the poor person gets a year in jail over | Dec 16 02:38 |
| ender2070_ | DaemonFC - because nobody reads books | Dec 16 02:38 |
| ender2070_ | DaemonFC - if you read books about law and court procedure you can do the same shit | Dec 16 02:38 |
| ender2070_ | better than a public defender | Dec 16 02:38 |
| ender2070_ | or you can suggest stuff to them they are too swamped to think of | Dec 16 02:38 |
| _goblin | I think RMS is a "good guy" I don't always agree with him but then I don't fully agree with anyone about everything...At the end of the day RMS's opinions are about Software, if people disagree then fine, I dislike very much the attacks on him. | Dec 16 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | the public defender is a warm body to stand there for the most part | Dec 16 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | they have no incentive to win cases on behalf of the defendent because they get paid a flat rate and work for the government that's trying to convict you | Dec 16 02:40 |
| ender2070_ | DaemonFC - thats why you represent yourself | Dec 16 02:40 |
| ender2070_ | DaemonFC - do some research | Dec 16 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana defaults to bench trial for misdemeanors (judge decides guilt or innocence and the sentence) | Dec 16 02:41 |
| _goblin | daemonfc: the judge can direct the jury in the UK, | Dec 16 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | you can request a jury, but then the jurors will be pissed that they all got called in there cause you punched someone while you were drunk :P | Dec 16 02:41 |
| _goblin | and magistrates decide for themselves in summary cases. | Dec 16 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | the judge only has limited power to instruct the jury here | Dec 16 02:41 |
| ender2070_ | it buys you time :) | Dec 16 02:42 |
| _goblin | defendants (in cases that are trialable either way) can elect for a Magistrates or Crown court hearing. | Dec 16 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | summary offenses pretty much equal out to a misdemeanor here I believe | Dec 16 02:42 |
| _goblin | magistrates court = max 6 months imprisonment. | Dec 16 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | there's different classes of misdemeanor here A, B, C, and D | Dec 16 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | wit hA being the most serious | Dec 16 02:43 |
| _goblin | and mags can refer to crown in serious cases. | Dec 16 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | A has a max of 1 year in jail and $5,000 in fines | Dec 16 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | D has a max of 2 months and $200 | Dec 16 02:43 |
| _goblin | heres something for all you UK'rs....... | Dec 16 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | a D misdemeanor is something you may as well plead guilty to and move on | Dec 16 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's not worth trying to pay a lawyer to fight it off for you | Dec 16 02:44 |
| _goblin | Did you know that if a suspect is held in custody prior to case and is subsequently found guilty, for every 1 day in custody its worth 2 days of final sentence. | Dec 16 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | the last thing a judge is going to do to a cramped jail is put someone in there who is barely a criminal | Dec 16 02:44 |
| _goblin | knock off half the sentence for good behavior and it soon reduces the custodial. | Dec 16 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | the worst that will probably come out of that would be court costs of $86 and a couple months of probation | Dec 16 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | maybe a little community service | Dec 16 02:45 |
| _goblin | if somone is held for a month on remand, gets a 2 yr sentence they will probably serve 10 months.... | Dec 16 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Indiana only makes you serve half your sentence if you have good behavior | Dec 16 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | so even if the judge gave you 2 months, you'd only be there for 1 month | Dec 16 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | the other would be suspended | Dec 16 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | 1 month would added on to a later sentence if you got yourself in trouble again | Dec 16 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | *would be | Dec 16 02:46 |
| _goblin | right, Im off.... | Dec 16 02:47 |
| _goblin | time for bed. | Dec 16 02:47 |
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| DaemonFC | I had a 180 day suspended sentence once, but that's not there anymore | Dec 16 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | I was under 18 | Dec 16 02:48 |
| ender2070_ | I hear your country doesn't have moral rights infringement for copyright | Dec 16 02:50 |
| ender2070_ | lame | Dec 16 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | ? | Dec 16 02:50 |
| ender2070_ | the author can sue here for misuse of a copyright | Dec 16 02:50 |
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| ender2070_ | that can be considered damaging to the honour or reputation of the author | Dec 16 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | have no idea if that could be the basis of a lawsuit here | Dec 16 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | probably | Dec 16 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | you can sue for anything | Dec 16 02:52 |
| ender2070_ | this one sculpter made a statue that eatons center purchased. he sued them because they put christmas lights up on it and refused to remove them. he said it ruined the artwork. | Dec 16 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | well, here I believe that he would not be able to sue given that he sold the statue to them | Dec 16 02:53 |
| ender2070_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_v._The_Eaton_Centre_Ltd. | Dec 16 02:53 |
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| DaemonFC | I have no idea | Dec 16 02:54 |
| ender2070_ | it was ribbons | Dec 16 02:54 |
| ender2070_ | and they were geese | Dec 16 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | I know he could file the lawsuit and say it is causing him financial harm due to his damaged reputation | Dec 16 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | if he could prove they cost him money | Dec 16 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | like if he went to sell another statue and the other place said that they didn't like what his other one looked like (due to the modifications made to it by his last customer), he could probably sue the customer that made the mods to the first statue for the money that he would have made of the other customer bought the other statue | Dec 16 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | and the defendant would pay court and legal costs if they lost | Dec 16 02:56 |
| ender2070_ | as you would put it "bankrupcy" | Dec 16 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | not necessarily | Dec 16 02:57 |
| ender2070_ | maybe not | Dec 16 02:57 |
| ender2070_ | depends on how much | Dec 16 02:57 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to tessier | Dec 16 02:57 | |
| DaemonFC | well, the first customer is a business or something right? like a mall? | Dec 16 02:57 |
| *schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Dec 16 02:57 | |
| ender2070_ | yes | Dec 16 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | they probably have insurance that would cover them for the amount they owed in damages | Dec 16 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | and if they did have enough money on hand, then there's no way they could get the debt discharged in bankruptcy | Dec 16 02:58 |
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| DaemonFC | so there's a good chance the plaintiff would get paid | Dec 16 02:58 |
| notzed | arvo | Dec 16 02:59 |
| ender2070_ | you can sue for damages here too | Dec 16 02:59 |
| ender2070_ | and moral rights | Dec 16 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure I like the thought of being sued without actually having caused anyone financial damages | Dec 16 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | good thing that (probably) can't happen here | Dec 16 03:00 |
| ender2070_ | a canadian can sue you | Dec 16 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | in a Canadian court? | Dec 16 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | go right ahead | Dec 16 03:00 |
| ender2070_ | yes | Dec 16 03:00 |
| ender2070_ | you wouldnt show up | Dec 16 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | sue me for all the money on the planet | Dec 16 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | I hope you win | Dec 16 03:00 |
| ender2070_ | but i don't expect you'd be entering Canada | Dec 16 03:00 |
| ender2070_ | even voluntary | Dec 16 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'll write a letter to the court recommending they find in favor of you | Dec 16 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 16 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | if it makes you feel better | Dec 16 03:01 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 16 03:01 |
| ender2070_ | not that i would sue you | Dec 16 03:01 |
| ender2070_ | just an example | Dec 16 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | offer is open | Dec 16 03:01 |
| ender2070_ | for what? | Dec 16 03:01 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 16 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | tell them I kicked you in the balls and you want $50 billion dollars from me | Dec 16 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'll go along with it, by mail | Dec 16 03:02 |
| ender2070_ | for moral rights its about $500-$20,00 | Dec 16 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'll offer to settle for a bag of circus peanuts | Dec 16 03:02 |
| ender2070_ | I would ask for $20,000 so that i would still get what I deserve having to use a collection agency | Dec 16 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | a Canadian collection agency means abotu as much to me as a Canadian court ruling | Dec 16 03:04 |
| ender2070_ | lolz | Dec 16 03:04 |
| ender2070_ | that's okay | Dec 16 03:05 |
| ender2070_ | did you know Canadians make robots? | Dec 16 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | if you sue me, you'd better do it in an American court | Dec 16 03:05 |
| ender2070_ | where do you live | Dec 16 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's also another thing, ender2070 | Dec 16 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care about being sued in an American court | Dec 16 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | they can't legally let you garnish my money or levy my bank account anyway | Dec 16 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm immune from damages in a lawsuit | Dec 16 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing I'm not immune from is child support (no kids) and the IRS (no tax obligation) | Dec 16 03:06 |
| ender2070_ | damaged from having to come down | Dec 16 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | child support and the IRS are the only two things my money could be seized for | Dec 16 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | the Indiana Department of Revenue could not seize it though | Dec 16 03:07 |
| ender2070_ | ill ask for a large number because I know ill get a small percentage from a collection agency | Dec 16 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | (state tax agency) | Dec 16 03:08 |
| ender2070_ | or | Dec 16 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | collection agencies can't sue me and get money | Dec 16 03:08 |
| ender2070_ | ill just send hot robots after you http://www.slayerverse.org/sv2/upload/1181125845.jpg | Dec 16 03:08 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: There's "The Collection Company" here in town that had several accounts they were trying to collect on with me | Dec 16 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | so I went down to their office and explained and proved I was on SSDI and they stopped trying to collect | Dec 16 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | they don't even accept new debts to try to collect from me now | Dec 16 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | the hospital tried to send my debt to them and they turned it down | Dec 16 03:09 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 16 03:09 |
| ender2070_ | do you own anything | Dec 16 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | nothing that they can take | Dec 16 03:10 |
| ender2070_ | no house or car? | Dec 16 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | I rent my home | Dec 16 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | my car is 15 years old | Dec 16 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing worth suing me over | Dec 16 03:10 |
| ender2070_ | ahh | Dec 16 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | even if I had something they could take, I'd personally destroy it before they could get out here to take it | Dec 16 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | like if they were going to take my car, I'd go out and pour sand into the crankcase | Dec 16 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | drive around on that for a little while | Dec 16 03:12 |
| notzed | wow, you must be great at parties | Dec 16 03:12 |
| ender2070_ | LOL | Dec 16 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I believe in poisoning the well | Dec 16 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | if I can't have it, nobody is going to take it from me | Dec 16 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | I know they can't take my TV or my computer from me, but if they could, I'd smash them with a baseball bat | Dec 16 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | if they could take my furniture, I would rip it to shreds with a knife | Dec 16 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I suppose that's why I'm glad I have non-metallic fillings, because otherwise I'd be worried that they could come for them too | Dec 16 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 16 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm slowly on my way to becoming the Six Million Dollar Man, through dental work alone | Dec 16 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | between retainers, fillings, extractions of wisdom teeth and extra teeth that came in every which way | Dec 16 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | I've probably got $15,000 or more invested in my mouth over the years | Dec 16 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | *retainers/braces | Dec 16 03:20 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.pwnage.ca/images/fuck-msft.jpg | Dec 16 03:23 |
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| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 16 03:23 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Unlike most poor people, I establish a rainy day fund over months where nothing is going wrong | Dec 16 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | that way when I need fillings or something, I just make an appointment, get them, and pay in cash | Dec 16 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of poor people just wait til they're too far gone to save and get them extracted cause it's cheaper | Dec 16 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | *I* do not want to eat mashed potatoes and blended peas at age 40 | Dec 16 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 16 03:25 |
| DaemonFC | or if some little douchebag says I punched them, I can bail myself out, pay the court costs, pay the lawyer, and go to anger management | Dec 16 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | it's really simple | Dec 16 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even have a criminal record despite pleading no contest to several things over the years | Dec 16 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | having an Oh Shit! fund is really giving yourself chips to play when you're getting your ass kicked | Dec 16 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm awesome, I know | Dec 16 03:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Have Google reached their peak? It seems that each new addition makes more people increasingly nervous about privacy. Not a winning idea. | Dec 16 03:29 | |
| notzed | sound more like a sociapath to me | Dec 16 03:29 |
| ender2070_ | yo, you need to be a republican | Dec 16 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | me? | Dec 16 03:31 |
| ender2070_ | yes | Dec 16 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not a Republican | Dec 16 03:31 |
| ender2070_ | you'd make an excellent one | Dec 16 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | how is that? | Dec 16 03:31 |
| ender2070_ | just limit yourself to issues like the death penalty and illegal immigration | Dec 16 03:32 |
| ender2070_ | bam | Dec 16 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | I support the death penalty, so? | Dec 16 03:32 |
| ender2070_ | watch bill o'reilly a bit more | Dec 16 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think the illegals should be kicked out, so not agreeing with the Republicans there | Dec 16 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans want them to be illegals and to be here | Dec 16 03:33 |
| ender2070_ | you can be Limbaugh 2.0 | Dec 16 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | so they can be exploited by American businesses for sub-minimum wages with no benefits and no workers rights | Dec 16 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | having them here and illegal is the worst thing that we can do | Dec 16 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | not only are they here, which is bad enough | Dec 16 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | but they have an unnatural advantage in competing for jobs | Dec 16 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | through being willing to work for nothing | Dec 16 03:34 |
| notzed | but they also spend all they earn, theyr'e a net benefit for the economy, not like bankers for instance | Dec 16 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | no, it's a net benefit for businesses | Dec 16 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | like Walmart | Dec 16 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | If I had a nickel for every illegal alien in there buying shit, I'd go buy a tropical island and lice there | Dec 16 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | *live | Dec 16 03:36 |
| notzed | well maybe if you made something they wanted to buy you could | Dec 16 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | the problem is that no matter who wins on immigration, we lose | Dec 16 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | legalizing them is unacceptable, allowing them to undercut our workforce as illegal aliens is unacceptable | Dec 16 03:36 |
| ender2070_ | you probably would lice up the tropical island | Dec 16 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | deporting 40 million of them is unrealistic | Dec 16 03:37 |
| ThistleWeb | gotta love that global free market, where the consumer dictates the price | Dec 16 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a problem that's going away, we can just change what we call the problem | Dec 16 03:37 |
| ThistleWeb | where al these consumers scream out to pay much more for goods, to pay western wages | Dec 16 03:37 |
| ThistleWeb | I see them all the time, wondering why they cant pay 5 times the rpice | Dec 16 03:38 |
| ThistleWeb | for the same thing | Dec 16 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | there should be tariffs on anything that can be made here | Dec 16 03:38 |
| ender2070_ | they are replacing cashiers with robots in canada | Dec 16 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | enough to raise the price of imports enough to make it not worth offshoring it | Dec 16 03:38 |
| ThistleWeb | yep, protectionism | Dec 16 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | exactly | Dec 16 03:38 |
| ThistleWeb | kinda goes against the idea of a global market | Dec 16 03:38 |
| ender2070_ | robots | Dec 16 03:39 |
| ThistleWeb | I assume the same would apply to every country the US deals with too? | Dec 16 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | who said the "global market" is a good thing? | Dec 16 03:39 |
| notzed | are they hot chick robots? | Dec 16 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | rich businesses that want to pollute and exploit cheap labor like it | Dec 16 03:39 |
| ThistleWeb | so US goods and services are more expensive abroad, to encourage local workers | Dec 16 03:39 |
| ThistleWeb | alls fair in buisness | Dec 16 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | it hurts everyday people who are jsut trying to get by | Dec 16 03:39 |
| ender2070_ | allegedly, in brampton this car plant was given bail out money and was going to shut down. then the goverment said it wanted the money back. so they reopened the plant but had robots build the cars instead of workers. | Dec 16 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | puts them all out of work so we can get 10 cents off a pair of underwear at Walmart | Dec 16 03:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Please RT : Protect yourself from COFEE with some DECAF http://tinyurl.com/y9ujjpb | Dec 16 03:40 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Protect yourself from COFEE with some DECAF .::. Size~: 36.93 KB | Dec 16 03:40 |
| ThistleWeb | the problem the west have, is that they want the cheapo stuff, which can only be made in slave labour countries | Dec 16 03:40 |
| ThistleWeb | corps want cheap labour | Dec 16 03:40 |
| ThistleWeb | customers want cheap goods | Dec 16 03:40 |
| ThistleWeb | they cant get that with local produced | Dec 16 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | free trade and global markets are just euphemisms for "Let us shop for the cheapest, most exploitable labor and countries where there are no laws to protect the air and water" | Dec 16 03:41 |
| ThistleWeb | wages make that impossible | Dec 16 03:41 |
| ThistleWeb | it'd be hilarious to see the US go full on protectionist, on both sidees | Dec 16 03:42 |
| ThistleWeb | see how fast the corps rocket into washington to lobby against it | Dec 16 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pro-labor, anti-illegal immigration, pro-capital punishment, and anti-taxation | Dec 16 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | and against so-called "free trade" | Dec 16 03:42 |
| ThistleWeb | a good reuplican then | Dec 16 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Dec 16 03:43 |
| ender2070_ | yeah you should run for office and yell a lot | Dec 16 03:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin LOL: "Tinkerbell Linux is based on Slutware Linux and will be distributed on Hilton's next music CD entitled "Crontab for Love." | Dec 16 03:43 | |
| ender2070_ | free taxpayer money | Dec 16 03:43 |
| ThistleWeb | still, with a system as badly brocken as it is, the party affiliation hard;y matters | Dec 16 03:43 |
| ender2070_ | not high enough? lobby | Dec 16 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | Republicans are anti-labor, pro-illegal immigration, pro-capital punishment, pro-taxation, and for "free trade" | Dec 16 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | I am not a Republican, I only agree with one of their platform issues | Dec 16 03:43 |
| ThistleWeb | only "free" in terms of "someone apart from them pays" | Dec 16 03:44 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9RzYGttPsw -DaemonFC | Dec 16 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | Democrats are the same thing as Republicans really | Dec 16 03:44 |
| ender2070_ | you can do this | Dec 16 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | in all the ways that matter | Dec 16 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | there are a few, mostly unsubstantial differences | Dec 16 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | mostly in ways their corporate overlords don't care about | Dec 16 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | we call those wedge issues | Dec 16 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | "special rights for gays" (ENDA, Matthew Shepard Bill) vs "illegalize gay marriage in places it was already illegal" | Dec 16 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Dec 16 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | both are just pandering to gay people or to Christian extremists | Dec 16 03:47 |
| ender2070_ | go christian extremist | Dec 16 03:47 |
| ender2070_ | just scream about jesus while you yell about your normal stuff | Dec 16 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | for the most part, it doesn't matter who wins | Dec 16 03:48 |
| notzed | ba-by je-sus! | Dec 16 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Obama took an unconstitutional religious group (faith based initiative) from Bush and made it bigger | Dec 16 03:48 |
| ender2070_ | Obama is a super hero | Dec 16 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Christian extremist groups who lobby against gay rights get more money from the feds under Obama than they did under Bush | Dec 16 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | don't you find that odd? | Dec 16 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | Bush took the most hateful, most divisive groups in the country and gave them money, Obama took the most hateful, most divisive groups in the country and gave them mroe money | Dec 16 03:50 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dr1sgcC6k4 - OBAMMMMAAAA | Dec 16 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | they can take that federal money and refuse to hire gay people, refuse to hire black people, refust to hire anyone they want | Dec 16 03:51 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-B3zAY-LBU | Dec 16 03:51 |
| ender2070_ | this is politics in america | Dec 16 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | they're still immune from the US Civil Rights Act of 1965 | Dec 16 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | even as they take federal money | Dec 16 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | they get away with stuff that would have any private employer sued to their skivvies and get away with it cause they're religious | Dec 16 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: There really is no political party I agree with | Dec 16 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | I would vote for Jesse Ventura :) | Dec 16 03:54 |
| ender2070_ | are you a puppet on the left or the puppet on the right kind of person | Dec 16 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | I would vote for a Ross Perot like character if they promised to get NAFTA removed | Dec 16 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | even if I didn't agree with anything else they said | Dec 16 03:54 |
| ender2070_ | why do you drink nothing but haterade | Dec 16 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | cause they're like little lampreys | Dec 16 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | all attached to the side of a really big fish | Dec 16 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | sucking all the blood out | Dec 16 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | when we're dead, they'll probably flock to Canada | Dec 16 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamprey | Dec 16 03:57 |
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| notzed | hopefully they like snow then | Dec 16 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 16 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | they're already infesting Indiana | Dec 16 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | leading to more crime, more decay of formerly well maintained neighborhoods | Dec 16 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | more of a burden on our welfare systems | Dec 16 03:57 |
| notzed | i lost track, who is this, the illegals, the politicians or the govt funded extremists? | Dec 16 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | they figure out every way to take as much as they can possibly get away with from every program they're on | Dec 16 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | from food stamps, to abusing the emergency rooms | Dec 16 03:59 |
| ender2070_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DxyPsa_sY | Dec 16 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | if they get arrested for something, their friends bail them out for $500 | Dec 16 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | and they disappear into a new town under a new name | Dec 16 03:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sriniworld: RT @abrightman: A quick look into Yahoo!'s Accessibility Lab http://bit.ly/6lKNyF | Dec 16 04:00 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @takebackthetech: RT @binsoup EFF reviews Facebook's new privacy changes http://tinyurl.com/yffmwmn #takebackthetech | Dec 16 04:00 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @psuresh: New blog post: Browsing with #emacs #ezbl #uzbl => http://tinyurl.com/y99e8jm | Dec 16 04:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yahoo! Video Detail for Lab works to make web accessible for all , source:AP Tech... .::. Size~: 0.9 KB | Dec 16 04:00 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd like to get rid of our current mayor | Dec 16 04:00 |
| notzed | run against him | Dec 16 04:01 |
| notzed | or her | Dec 16 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | if I was the mayor, I'd have the local police train to enforce immigration law | Dec 16 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's something we're desperately in need of | Dec 16 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | We need another Joe Arpaio | Dec 16 04:04 |
| ender2070_ | you can be Joe Arpaio 2.0 | Dec 16 04:04 |
| ender2070_ | do it | Dec 16 04:04 |
| ender2070_ | you can use AJAX | Dec 16 04:05 |
| notzed | have you ever read ayn rand? | Dec 16 04:05 |
| ender2070_ | who | Dec 16 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I see him as kind of a "walking tall" type sheriff | Dec 16 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | cleaning up corruption and all that, when nobody else is willing | Dec 16 04:06 |
| notzed | dfc | Dec 16 04:06 |
| notzed | sorry | Dec 16 04:06 |
| ender2070_ | why dont u run for sherif | Dec 16 04:06 |
| ender2070_ | get a horse | Dec 16 04:06 |
| ender2070_ | and a revolver | Dec 16 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, Indiana doesn't require you to have been a law enforcement officer to run for sheriff | Dec 16 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Dec 16 04:07 |
| DaemonFC | so yes I could | Dec 16 04:07 |
| ender2070_ | then you can be like "that damn illegal fell on my bullet" | Dec 16 04:08 |
| ender2070_ | rawr | Dec 16 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | I want them to place another ballot initiative asked voters to get rid of the county commissioners and replace them with one County Executive | Dec 16 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | *asking | Dec 16 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | it might make it on the ballot next year, I'll vote in favor of it | Dec 16 04:08 |
| ender2070_ | LOL im pretending to be you btw | Dec 16 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | no, more like they fall and hit their head on my hood | Dec 16 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | hoods are too expensive though | Dec 16 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | fender? | Dec 16 04:09 |
| ender2070_ | your crazy | Dec 16 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | I voted in favor of firing all the township tax assessors last year, ender2070_ | Dec 16 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | they did fire all 4,800 of them across the state | Dec 16 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | we already had a county assessor in each county anyway | Dec 16 04:10 |
| ender2070_ | do you have a ghost custome that you use to place vibrant crosses on a unsuspecting urban individuals front lawl | Dec 16 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | our property taxes went WAY down the next year | Dec 16 04:12 |
| notzed | ender: haha | Dec 16 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | burning crosses doesn't go far enough | Dec 16 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | I prefer cracking skulls | Dec 16 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 16 04:12 |
| notzed | so is the county broke yet? | Dec 16 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | maybe with the back of my police issue shotgun? | Dec 16 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | notzed: Nope, they've been forced to deal with it | Dec 16 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | by firing all the bureaucrats in the town government | Dec 16 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | and saving $5,000 by not decorating one of our parks with Christmas lights | Dec 16 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | nyaaaah | Dec 16 04:13 |
| notzed | well maybe thats why crime went up, all that unemployment | Dec 16 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | not enough money in the town budget to pay all these bureaucrats | Dec 16 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | the mayor even had to fire his wife | Dec 16 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | his "executive assistant" | Dec 16 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | notzed: They only had to fire like 14 people | Dec 16 04:14 |
| ender2070_ | why are u so hateful | Dec 16 04:15 |
| ender2070_ | whats wrong with christmas lights | Dec 16 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | they were all expendable anyway obviously | Dec 16 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | town still runs fine without them | Dec 16 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | saved $400,000 instead of hitting me up for a chunk of that | Dec 16 04:15 |
| ender2070_ | why dont you burn all the books too | Dec 16 04:15 |
| ender2070_ | town still runs fine without them | Dec 16 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_: The library was expanded | Dec 16 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | $1.2 million grant from the feds | Dec 16 04:16 |
| ender2070_ | new books, expansion necessary | Dec 16 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | they even ordered a few books I requested | Dec 16 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 16 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | good books | Dec 16 04:16 |
| ender2070_ | the library where I live near has free wifi | Dec 16 04:16 |
| ender2070_ | lol | Dec 16 04:16 |
| notzed | mein kampf? | Dec 16 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_: If they're gonna be pork spending anyway, I want us to get some too | Dec 16 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | the corruption seems to only be capable of defeat at the county level and lower | Dec 16 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | snuff it out here and work our way up later is fine by me | Dec 16 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_: Ours has wifi too, or you can sit down at one of the Windows XP terminals | Dec 16 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | browse the web with IE 7 | Dec 16 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | *shivers* | Dec 16 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | the schools use Linux though | Dec 16 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | which is just odd | Dec 16 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | they got the library computers from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, so it doesn't surprise me that they all have XP | Dec 16 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | take what you can get I suppose | Dec 16 04:20 |
| ender2070_ | I'd rather browse the internet with free software | Dec 16 04:21 |
| ender2070_ | gnu/linux - fedora 12 on my notebook | Dec 16 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070_: Fedora 12 is incompatible with my computer still | Dec 16 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | due to no usable ATI drivers | Dec 16 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | I could use it on my 5 year old laptop I'm sure | Dec 16 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | so much for usable by all, when they throw in a version of X that the latest ATI drivers don't support | Dec 16 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | nice big fuck you to millions of people | Dec 16 04:29 |
| notzed | well don't use it then | Dec 16 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | this happens every time a new Fedora is out | Dec 16 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | where you can't even use your video card for at least a month | Dec 16 04:29 |
| notzed | thats why i stayed with fc11 | Dec 16 04:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Wine also crashed a lot on F12 | Dec 16 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | on the audio tab of the config | Dec 16 04:33 |
| ender2070_ | this is why I don't recommend ATI | Dec 16 04:34 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @kerim: Adivasis Shining: Standing Up to the Face of an Invasion of Aluminium Companies in Orissa http://bit.ly/4qcrD0 | Dec 16 04:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/12/protect-yourself-from-cofee-with-some-decaf-1.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss | Dec 16 05:34 |
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| DaemonFC | I might have seen this posted in here | Dec 16 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | if not, there it is | Dec 16 05:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/12/wow-school-kids-can-now-sing-about.html | Dec 16 06:16 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-UlDOGWZVY | Dec 16 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's governor talking about Muslim terrorists | Dec 16 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | and anti-semitism (mostly) | Dec 16 06:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @pluggdin: India’s Local Search Market in 2009 – Milestones/Failures & The Road Ahead http://goo.gl/fb/mjAj | Dec 16 06:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.masson.us/blog/?p=5898 | Dec 16 06:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: IPS Internet policy begging for a lawsuit .::. Size~: 67.97 KB | Dec 16 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh, that’s right – to the fundamentalist mind, there is no distinction; anything non-Christian is evil and all in exactly the same way. And of course, praying to God to affect or influence real events is totally different from casting a spell or sprinkling chicken blood on the ground. " | Dec 16 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Dec 16 06:38 |
| DaemonFC | I find that life is simpler without any of that crap | Dec 16 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's a little boring, but I can sleep in on Sundays -or- get to McDonalds before the church lets otu and have no wait in line | Dec 16 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's worth the remote possibility of an eternity in hell | Dec 16 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | I can dress how I want, say what I want, listen to the music I want, watch porn, and shout obscenities at people | Dec 16 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | not being religious has many perks :) | Dec 16 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | my favorite episode of South Park is on | Dec 16 06:43 |
| DaemonFC | Sexual Harassment Panda :) | Dec 16 06:43 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @tinucherian: "#Wikipedia Wikimeetup #Bangalore Dec 20th SUNDAY 3 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MBL8 #WPMBL8 | Dec 16 06:55 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1332.html | Dec 16 07:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Joy of Tech comic... The first climate conference. .::. Size~: 39.71 KB | Dec 16 07:26 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @fish_pond: documentary: A climate Call from the Coast http://bit.ly/8I1suU #cop #cop15 #climatechange #fisherfolks | Dec 16 08:01 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Bowguar: This pretty much sums up the #Copenhagen #climate summit, in one image. http://bit.ly/5ahB4T #cop15 | Dec 16 08:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Kevin Grandia: An easy, very quick summary of the Copenhagen climate treaty .::. Size~: 103.7 KB | Dec 16 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2009/12/5357/ | Dec 16 08:22 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Crikey on how to write to government ministers: snail mail DDOS http://is.gd/5pEbg #nocleanfeed | Dec 16 08:31 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds' Legacy To Benefit Lupus http://is.gd/5pErd | Dec 16 08:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | I wonder how many Zunes end up on Craigslist unopened on the 26th | Dec 16 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 16 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | there were quite a few last year | Dec 16 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'd take one if it was free | Dec 16 08:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] YouTube considering subscription fees for TV and film | Technology | guardian.co.uk http://tinyurl.com/y9chqa7 | Dec 16 09:11 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: 50 reasons why global warming isn't natural http://bit.ly/6wNeIZ useful point-by-point rebuttal to cynical journalism #cop15 | Dec 16 09:30 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 50 reasons why global warming isn't natural - Short Sharp Science - New Scientist .::. Size~: 115.82 KB | Dec 16 09:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Microsoft admits stealing code from startup - Nice to see organised criminals getting mainstream media attention http://tinyurl.com/yek97jc | Dec 16 09:33 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: Monsanto's mermaid problem - http://bit.ly/4omke7 another reason Monsanto is evil: it encourages deforestation #monsanto #evi | Dec 16 09:34 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/184709/cherrypal_offers_laptop_for_under_100.html | Dec 16 09:35 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] What designers think of AOL's new logo - Their management seems as inspired as ever http://tinyurl.com/y883azs | Dec 16 09:40 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] You could say AOL's new logos finally match the company ie; shit. | Dec 16 09:42 | |
| schestowitz | Technically, it's not "Sealing" | Dec 16 09:42 |
| schestowitz | *stealing" | Dec 16 09:42 |
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| satipera | Microsoft theft, coverage starts globally http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8415597.stm | Dec 16 09:44 |
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| schestowitz | It's not theft | Dec 16 09:48 |
| schestowitz | We need to avoid language being subverted | Dec 16 09:48 |
| cubezzz | hmm? | Dec 16 09:48 |
| cubezzz | what is not stealing? | Dec 16 09:48 |
| schestowitz | You can't steal digitally unless you steal a HDD | Dec 16 09:49 |
| schestowitz | In which case, you don't steal data but an actual physical thing | Dec 16 09:49 |
| schestowitz | I'm very careful with words like "piracy" and "theft"; it lends a hand to propagandists | Dec 16 09:50 |
| cubezzz | piracy isn't the best word either | Dec 16 09:50 |
| schestowitz | Things like this: | Dec 16 09:50 |
| schestowitz | "Intellectual property is the next software." | Dec 16 09:50 |
| schestowitz | --Nathan Myhrvold | Dec 16 09:50 |
| cubezzz | well, that is merely a broad generalization | Dec 16 09:51 |
| cubezzz | like whites or blacks | Dec 16 09:51 |
| cubezzz | I agree, it's a bad way of expression | Dec 16 09:51 |
| cubezzz | what license does plurk use? | Dec 16 09:52 |
| cubezzz | btw this shows how important the GPL is | Dec 16 09:54 |
| cubezzz | perhaps not in the case of plurk but in general | Dec 16 09:55 |
| cubezzz | ah, BSD license... | Dec 16 09:56 |
| cubezzz | or part of it is | Dec 16 09:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: Pls RT: Mozilla Open Web Talks - 7-9pm today Teri Auditorium, Domlur #events #bangalore #foss #openstandards | Dec 16 10:02 | |
| schestowitz | Don't know what licence... | Dec 16 10:13 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @glynmoody: Qt Graphics and Performance - An Overview - http://bit.ly/5QuPRe and a big one, too #qt #trolltech #devs | Dec 16 10:17 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2357178,00.asp | Dec 16 11:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Acknowledges Theft of Code from Plurk - Reviews by PC Magazine .::. Size~: 74.88 KB | Dec 16 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Yes... | Dec 16 11:03 |
| oiaohm | http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-aligns-organization-and-executive-team-to-focus-on-growing-market-for-intelligent-workload-management-solutions/ Ok long read could be interesting | Dec 16 11:17 |
| schestowitz | Did you see the post last night? | Dec 16 11:22 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it and there is more coming | Dec 16 11:23 |
| schestowitz | I put a sort of placeholder to say it took place... | Dec 16 11:23 |
| schestowitz | There is a LOT more I want to say, but stressed for time | Dec 16 11:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @malini_aisola: @CIS_India describing Indian Right to Read campaign, unequivocal support for treaty #sccr19 | Dec 16 11:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @jamie_love: @CIS_India, about 600 to 800 books per year are made accessible in India... #sccr19 | Dec 16 11:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux Very Ready for Users, Matter of User Adaptability http://ur1.ca/hyqt http://ur1.ca/hyqu | Dec 16 11:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Minimalist #Linux -themed #Wallpapers and Some for Christmas Too http://ur1.ca/hyqy http://ur1.ca/hyqz | Dec 16 11:40 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IBM Dominates #Mainframes with #GNU #Linux Only http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-controls-IBM-mainframes-885713.html | Dec 16 11:41 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's #GNU #Linux Distribution Runs Directly from #USB http://ur1.ca/hyr4 | Dec 16 11:43 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: I had not caught up on all your posts yet. | Dec 16 11:47 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Next #KDE Release Receives Great Early Reviews http://ur1.ca/hyrn http://ur1.ca/hyro http://ur1.ca/hyrp | Dec 16 11:48 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SystemRescueCD Proves Handy for Managing Computers in Lab http://pogson.6k.ca/2009/12/14/systemrescuecd-rocks/ | Dec 16 11:48 | |
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| jose_X | schestowitz: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/EU-drops-Microsoft-browser-apf-1193707185.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=1&asset=&ccode= | Dec 16 11:49 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Gets a Boost, Supported by #HP in New Programme http://ur1.ca/hyru http://ur1.ca/hyrv | Dec 16 11:50 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: StreetInsider.com - Piper Jaffray Reiterates an 'Overweight' on Red Hat (RHT); Raises PT to $34 .::. Size~: 23 KB | Dec 16 11:50 |
| jose_X | >> The EU says it has an antitrust investigation still open into whether Microsoft is holding back some of the key data that developers need to make products that work with its market-leading software. | Dec 16 11:50 |
| jose_X | >> Microsoft has been warned though that it can be fined up to 10 percent of yearly global turnover without regulators having to prove their case if the company doesn't stick to this commitment for the next five years. | Dec 16 11:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Chosen Because Its Just Works http://ur1.ca/hyrx http://ur1.ca/hyry http://ur1.ca/hys0 | Dec 16 11:51 | |
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| jose_X | Also, from yesterday http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/12/15/microsoft-admits-to-using-purloined-code-in-china/?mod=yahoo_hs | Dec 16 11:51 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SimplyMEPIS 8.5 Release Imminent, Early Review Already Comes http://www.mepis.org/node/14228 http://www.planetoss.com/detail.php?id=24 | Dec 16 11:52 | |
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| jose_X | >> Microsoft said it has discovered that one of its vendors purloined some of the code used to create its Chinese microblogging service MSN Juku. The service has been suspended indefinitely. | Dec 16 11:52 |
| oiaohm | Umm some over 50 percent of the site jose_X I really don't call that some. | Dec 16 11:53 |
| jose_X | I was quoting the article | Dec 16 11:53 |
| jose_X | talk to the author.. i'm just the messenger | Dec 16 11:53 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] [GNU/]Linux #Mint Comes in More New Flavours http://ur1.ca/hys9 http://ur1.ca/hysa | Dec 16 11:56 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's Mobile #Linux Gets "FancyPants" Support http://ur1.ca/hysb http://ur1.ca/hysc | Dec 16 11:57 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google 's #Linux Phones Platform Tops 20,000 Applications http://ur1.ca/hysh http://ur1.ca/hysi | Dec 16 11:58 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Means Long-term Cost Savings, Shows Study http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/12/14/open-source-means-cost-savings/ | Dec 16 12:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] IT'S SNOWING | Dec 16 12:01 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Sub-notebooks Price Falls Below $100 http://ur1.ca/hysn http://ur1.ca/hyso #olpc | Dec 16 12:01 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: OLPC: A Steep Cost? Or a Profitable Edu-Investment? - OLPC News .::. Size~: 83.01 KB | Dec 16 12:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Interviews with #IBM #developerWorks Person, #SFLC Person http://ur1.ca/hyst http://ur1.ca/hysu | Dec 16 12:05 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "OpenOffice.org Mouse" Renamed, Rebranded http://ur1.ca/hysv http://ur1.ca/hysw | Dec 16 12:06 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Can Help Rescue Healthcare Reform http://ur1.ca/hyt0 http://ur1.ca/hyt1 | Dec 16 12:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] specifically: #uksnow WC1 3/10 http://uksnow.benmarsh.co.uk/ | Dec 16 12:08 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Databases Debate in #EU Not Over Yet, But #Oracle Makes Promises http://ur1.ca/hyt4 | Dec 16 12:08 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #Mozilla #Thunderbird 3 http://maketecheasier.com/hands-on-review-of-thunderbird-3/2009/12/15 | Dec 16 12:09 | |
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| schestowitz | Hey, jose_X | Dec 16 12:12 |
| jose_X | hey | Dec 16 12:12 |
| schestowitz | Just caught up | Dec 16 12:13 |
| schestowitz | re code, I have a post coming | Dec 16 12:13 |
| schestowitz | re browser, no surprise there | Dec 16 12:13 |
| schestowitz | It came almost a week after predictions (Tuesday last week) | Dec 16 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Kroes is out | Dec 16 12:13 |
| schestowitz | No longer competition head | Dec 16 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Do me a favour | Dec 16 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I did a search on the Spanish socialist who gets her post | Dec 16 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I tried to see if there is history with him and Microsoft | Dec 16 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I could find nothing | Dec 16 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I didn't look deep enough | Dec 16 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I want to know how he generally feels about their position | Dec 16 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Kallas for example is a buddy of Microsoft | Dec 16 12:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GPL Licensing Mainstream and Serious About the Law http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/12/best-buy-lawsuit-shows-how-gpl.html | Dec 16 12:15 | |
| jose_X | what is the favor? | Dec 16 12:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WhiteHouse Inquires Public About #OpenAccess http://techdirt.com/articles/20091211/1540517317.shtml #oa | Dec 16 12:17 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: White House Wants Input On Public Access Rules For Federally Funded Research | Techdirt .::. Size~: 46.81 KB | Dec 16 12:17 |
| schestowitz | It would be useful to determine what he thinks of about them | Dec 16 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Or if he met with pearly and his crew | Dec 16 12:17 |
| cubezzz | Cherrypal seems Microsoft oriented | Dec 16 12:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Censorship in #Australia Follows the #China Model http://nocleanfeed.com/ http://ur1.ca/hyti http://ur1.ca/hytj | Dec 16 12:18 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091010104533940 | Dec 16 12:18 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #AJAX Detroyed by #Patent Parasite http://imvivo.com/DetailsView/tabid/104/IndexID/1779944/Default.aspx | Dec 16 12:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Biden in the Pocket of Intellectual Monopolists, #EU Might be Too http://ur1.ca/hytl http://ur1.ca/hytm | Dec 16 12:21 | |
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| MinceR | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/PicsOfMax/dearjohn.jpg | Dec 16 12:21 |
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| satipera | internet explorer eu http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/17/business/global/17msft.html?_r=1&hp | Dec 16 12:24 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: :-) | Dec 16 12:26 |
| schestowitz | The news about MSIE is not a surprise | Dec 16 12:26 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft showed that crime pays off | Dec 16 12:27 |
| schestowitz | ANd never really punished for | Dec 16 12:27 |
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| satipera | ms still in firing line http://www.euractiv.com/en/infosociety/microsoft-eu-dispute-2010/article-188373?Ref=RSS | Dec 16 12:28 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Tool Defends Users from #Microsoft 's Attack on the Users with #COFEE http://ur1.ca/hyua | Dec 16 12:32 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Admits Breaking the Law http://ur1.ca/hyaj http://ur1.ca/hyug | Dec 16 12:36 | |
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| oiaohm | http://lilysussman.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/im-sorry-but-we-blew-up-your-laptop-welcome-to-israel/ Ok the importances of backups. | Dec 16 13:17 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Holy crap! RD: @schestowitz: #AJAX Detroyed by #Patent Parasite http://imvivo.com/DetailsView/tabid/104/IndexID/1779944/Default.aspx | Dec 16 13:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CNN Recites #Patent Industry #Propaganda http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/16/patents-innovation-deception/ | Dec 16 13:30 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses the Hire-a-Shill Approach to Remove Guilt of #Copyright Infringement http://ur1.ca/hyxq | Dec 16 13:43 | |
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| zer0c00l | schestowitz: ping | Dec 16 13:48 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: What happened to the AJAX patent lawsuit? Its still on? | Dec 16 13:50 |
| schestowitz | hEY | Dec 16 13:51 |
| schestowitz | yes, probably | Dec 16 13:51 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: hmm, too bad | Dec 16 13:51 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: rm -rf ~/patents | Dec 16 13:51 |
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| Omar87_ | schestowitz: Check this out: http://bit.ly/62As0f | Dec 16 13:55 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GatesFoundation Funds Blogs to Promote Its Party Line http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/16/gates-fund-for-colony-pr/ | Dec 16 14:01 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Gates Foundation Funds Blogs to Promote Its Party Line | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 106.27 KB | Dec 16 14:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sankarshan: apparently there are only two kinds of groups in the universe-one of rajnikanth followers,other of rms followers. #quote | Dec 16 14:08 | |
| cubezzz | Asay gets his critics | Dec 16 14:14 |
| cubezzz | he knows if he posts something inflammatory he'll get lots of hits | Dec 16 14:15 |
| cubezzz | but he's not really a FOSS person | Dec 16 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Damn. BN has too much load | Dec 16 14:16 |
| schestowitz | A lot of the time these days it can't serve | Dec 16 14:16 |
| schestowitz | Omar87_: I saw you made #2 spot in FSD | Dec 16 14:16 |
| Omar87_ | schestowitz: yep. :) | Dec 16 14:17 |
| schestowitz | Omar87_: thanks, I'll link to this article later | Dec 16 14:17 |
| Omar87_ | schestowitz: cool. :) | Dec 16 14:17 |
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| cubezzz | there's the pseudo-FOSS people | Dec 16 14:20 |
| cubezzz | and a lot of the time that's the open source guys | Dec 16 14:21 |
| cubezzz | Tivo and Sony TVs, the companies benefit from FOSS | Dec 16 14:23 |
| cubezzz | but the user doesn't directly benefit | Dec 16 14:23 |
| cubezzz | it's still a black box | Dec 16 14:23 |
| cubezzz | i.e. you can't hack it | Dec 16 14:24 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, the ons attacking RMS now | Dec 16 14:25 |
| schestowitz | I have another post on Novell coming soon | Dec 16 14:25 |
| schestowitz | The managers flee | Dec 16 14:26 |
| cubezzz | I'm watching all the relevant stocks | Dec 16 14:26 |
| cubezzz | you can't really attack RMS's ideas | Dec 16 14:28 |
| cubezzz | he really does a good job thinking ahead | Dec 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Server load is under control again | Dec 16 14:30 |
| cubezzz | could the dark ages of PCs be over I wonder? | Dec 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Dec 16 14:30 |
| cubezzz | Allchin isn't even at Microsoft, Gates is out too | Dec 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | The 'dark forces' never grow tired | Dec 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | IBM, Apple and Google too | Dec 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Google has this whole 'server-side' threat that people don't understand | Dec 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | They hold data | Dec 16 14:31 |
| cubezzz | Allchin retired on the same day Vista came out | Dec 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | What good is it if you run Free software (gnu/linux system) and use it to access some DC in another country? | Dec 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | The EU Commission does both | Dec 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Both sins | Dec 16 14:31 |
| cubezzz | DC? | Dec 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | It uses Windows | Dec 16 14:31 |
| schestowitz | DataCentre | Dec 16 14:31 |
| cubezzz | ah, right | Dec 16 14:32 |
| schestowitz | And it lets Google have its server logs | Dec 16 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Silly gits | Dec 16 14:32 |
| schestowitz | It makes the EU like some kind of puppet | Dec 16 14:32 |
| schestowitz | ANd Microsoft knows how to pretend to be an EU company | Dec 16 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Alter ego... | Dec 16 14:32 |
| cubezzz | you know, google treats my site a lot better than bing does :) | Dec 16 14:32 |
| cubezzz | probably yours too | Dec 16 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Multinationals with identity like Microsoft Belgium and Microsoft Deutschland | Dec 16 14:33 |
| schestowitz | "We're an EU company, really! We promise! Now give us your data and use our malware!!" | Dec 16 14:33 |
| cubezzz | well naturally they do business in the EU | Dec 16 14:34 |
| cubezzz | but they don't get their own way all the time, as it seems in North America | Dec 16 14:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hSJsWmhbZyLfejIucjKC1lyur7WQD9CK2S4G0 | Dec 16 14:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Associated Press: WaMu seeks to investigate US regulators, others .::. Size~: 8.17 KB | Dec 16 14:34 |
| cubezzz | UK is probably better for Linux devices (much better even) than Canada | Dec 16 14:35 |
| schestowitz | North America? | Dec 16 14:35 |
| schestowitz | You take NAFTA further? | Dec 16 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is a US-based company | Dec 16 14:35 |
| cubezzz | yes | Dec 16 14:35 |
| schestowitz | It is subject to regulation of US law | Dec 16 14:35 |
| cubezzz | I'm not quite following you though | Dec 16 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Including marshal law | Dec 16 14:35 |
| schestowitz | The neo-cons ruins many achievements of decades or centuries of activism | Dec 16 14:36 |
| schestowitz | They desttoyed a lot of AMerica | Dec 16 14:36 |
| schestowitz | destroyed | Dec 16 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Mexico, Cuba, Bolivia.. the list goes on.. | Dec 16 14:36 |
| cubezzz | Mexico used to be twice it's current size, yes | Dec 16 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Found guilty by international court, which they then estranged | Dec 16 14:37 |
| cubezzz | but they weren't the "good guys" either :) | Dec 16 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Complaints then funnelled to the UN, which was helpless too | Dec 16 14:37 |
| schestowitz | No reparations | Dec 16 14:37 |
| cubezzz | Canada gives First Nations 2 billion dollars per ear | Dec 16 14:37 |
| schestowitz | To be fair though... | Dec 16 14:37 |
| cubezzz | year | Dec 16 14:37 |
| schestowitz | France did the same in Algeria, UK in India etc. | Dec 16 14:37 |
| cubezzz | we do give them money | Dec 16 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Difference is, the US is hardly ever attacked at home | Dec 16 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Even Pearly Harbour was a case of US colonies coming under attack | Dec 16 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Whereas Europe has been fighting against itself for like... forever | Dec 16 14:38 |
| schestowitz | In one war, the Germany population was almost cut by half | Dec 16 14:38 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: how many first nations are there? | Dec 16 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Population side/proportional? | Dec 16 14:39 |
| schestowitz | I suppose inter-marriage blurs this | Dec 16 14:39 |
| cubezzz | I think it's around 2 million people, let me check | Dec 16 14:39 |
| schestowitz | "inter-marriage" as in human with... well, human | Dec 16 14:39 |
| cubezzz | 700,000 approximately | Dec 16 14:40 |
| schestowitz | There's this guy from a Colorado university who was sacked for the whole thing of standing up for it... | Dec 16 14:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Recent Attacks on #GNU and #RichardStallman Based on Distortions, Lies http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/16/gnu-inside-gnome-is-ok/ | Dec 16 14:40 | |
| cubezzz | less than I thought | Dec 16 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | WHat was his name.... churchill or something... | Dec 16 14:40 |
| schestowitz | YEah.... | Dec 16 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Here: http://noolmusic.com/youtube_live/university_of_colorado_-_ward_churchill_fired_-part_2.php | Dec 16 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | Some say he's not really native | Dec 16 14:40 |
| schestowitz | That he's fakign | Dec 16 14:41 |
| schestowitz | But I don't know, maybe he's also smeared because of his strong views | Dec 16 14:41 |
| cubezzz | uh, you can be half and still be called First Nations I think | Dec 16 14:41 |
| schestowitz | What about Mexicans? | Dec 16 14:41 |
| schestowitz | The US took about half its land | Dec 16 14:41 |
| schestowitz | In the early wars anyway. History lessons make some revisionism around it | Dec 16 14:41 |
| schestowitz | I guess it counts partly as Spanish colony though | Dec 16 14:42 |
| cubezzz | the Mexician Empire it was called, yes it was twice the size | Dec 16 14:42 |
| schestowitz | If only people studied history. | Dec 16 14:42 |
| cubezzz | why was Churchill fired? | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | I too didn't know a lot of this until adult life. Schools don't teach a lot of very important things, probably for idealogical reasons | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: check out the many videos in YouTUbe,... I watched like 10 | Dec 16 14:43 |
| cubezzz | I learned mostly the history of Canada | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | They found plagiarism eventually | Dec 16 14:43 |
| cubezzz | explorers, and we did learn about natives people | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | But the way it works is, it's similar to dershowitz [spelling] | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | They don't like your views... | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | So they don't like you | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | And then they start digging for some dirt | Dec 16 14:43 |
| schestowitz | They need to toss you without it seemingly like it's due to your views | Dec 16 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Muck raking | Dec 16 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Look at CLinton | Dec 16 14:44 |
| schestowitz | The neo-cons didn't like him | Dec 16 14:44 |
| schestowitz | So they offered money for people to give dirty stuff from his stuff, even made up | Dec 16 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Later they got the Monica Lewinski thing | Dec 16 14:45 |
| cubezzz | Clinton wasn't the most moral guy though :) | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Then they started pounding and used AstroTurf technique to make it an impeachment | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | There are good programs documenting it | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: no politican is | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | *cian | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | How about Bush | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | ? | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | They dug up some files on him | Dec 16 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Some of them he had destoryed through his family | Dec 16 14:46 |
| cubezzz | he was a terrible president in my opinion | Dec 16 14:46 |
| schestowitz | They ordered destruction of files about his bad record at the army | Dec 16 14:46 |
| cubezzz | Chicken Hawk? :) | Dec 16 14:46 |
| schestowitz | He got the lowest possible marks (bare pass) and got in due to pressure (favouritism) from his family | Dec 16 14:46 |
| schestowitz | There is a lot of other nasty stuff to be found in Bush | Dec 16 14:47 |
| cubezzz | Eisenhower was pretty good I think, but before my time | Dec 16 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Like his family roots | Dec 16 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Many countries are the same though | Dec 16 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Italian PM is mocked to death | Dec 16 14:47 |
| schestowitz | The Israeli PM is a former criminal (embezzlement/bribes) | Dec 16 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Turns out the previous one (Olmert) did the same | Dec 16 14:47 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure if that's worse than east Asia | Dec 16 14:48 |
| cubezzz | NATFA was signed by Mulroney | Dec 16 14:48 |
| schestowitz | But a lot of politicians are generally very corrupt | Dec 16 14:48 |
| cubezzz | I didn't like him at all | Dec 16 14:48 |
| cubezzz | a lot of bad things happened when he was prime minister | Dec 16 14:48 |
| schestowitz | And by some standards (like that applied to the Nazis), CHomsky argues that all Post-WW2 US president needed to be hanged | Dec 16 14:48 |
| cubezzz | ah, that's why he's not in the news then :) | Dec 16 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Mostly the war crimes though, intl' terrorism | Dec 16 14:49 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: he's in *some* news | Dec 16 14:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzgwNw | Dec 16 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | Anyway, let's talk FS | Dec 16 14:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @schestowitz: Recent Attacks on #GNU and #RichardStallman Based on Distort... http://bit.ly/6xGAmr | Dec 16 14:51 | |
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| schestowitz | Daniel is attacking anyone who dismisses iphone.... http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/12/15/strand-consult-denmarks-illegitimate-iphone-angry-pundit-nutter/ | Dec 16 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | Apple nutter. | Dec 16 14:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/12/15/gizmodos-incredibly-naive-jesus-diaz-compares-apples-corporate-security-to-nazi-gestapo/ | Dec 16 14:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Gizmodos incredibly naive Jesus Diaz compares Apples corporate security to Nazi Gestapo RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 37.12 KB | Dec 16 14:54 |
| schestowitz | More of Jobs' mob | Dec 16 14:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @aslam: Brazil focus RT @eDevelopment: World Bank eDevelopment group event: FOSS in the public sector, 17 dec http://tinyurl.com/yay4oyp | Dec 16 14:57 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @c4fcm: Best data visualization projects of 2009 http://bit.ly/5owW8q | Dec 16 15:13 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @achitnis: The Facebook Paradox: "I want my privacy, but then how will everyone know how to reach me & know what I am doing?" :P #fb | Dec 16 15:15 | |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmm...... BN cited here: http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10014627o-114626b,00.htm | Dec 16 15:20 |
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| schestowitz | Freenode acting up again.... | Dec 16 15:21 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @newscientist: Loopholes in climate deal could render it useless http://bit.ly/4Qmirr #COP15 | Dec 16 15:36 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Hi, Bob, | Dec 16 15:55 |
| schestowitz | I thought I'd drop a line to say that in Gecko, your blog sometimes loads up with the content about two pages down from the top. It's a CSS layout issue that might lose you visitors. | Dec 16 15:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 15:55 |
| schestowitz | can anyone reproduce? http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=4793 | Dec 16 15:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Daily Links for Wednesday, December 16, 2009 | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 50.57 KB | Dec 16 15:55 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwXycGG5IsE | Dec 16 16:03 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @techdirt: Italian Politician Blames Facebook For Berlusconi Attack; Facebook Begins Self-Censorship http://dlvr.it/624 | Dec 16 16:05 | |
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| cubezzz | check this out, it's as if I wrote this ad :) | Dec 16 16:48 |
| cubezzz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpOvzGiheOM | Dec 16 16:48 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Should there be a supranational patent court in Europe?, asks LaQuadratureDuNet to Michel Barnier: http://i5.be/3F | Dec 16 17:22 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Assumes You Too Are a Criminal http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/16/decaf-vs-msft-spying/ | Dec 16 17:35 | |
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| pawel_121 | hello | Dec 16 17:49 |
| pawel_121 | phoronix started advertising mono :> | Dec 16 17:49 |
| MinceR | so that's why idg bought 'em | Dec 16 17:50 |
| pawel_121 | there's ongoing discussion at their forum | Dec 16 17:50 |
| schestowitz | Hey, pawel_121 | Dec 16 17:50 |
| pawel_121 | so, someone smart could go there ;) | Dec 16 17:50 |
| schestowitz | pawel_121: yes, I noticed | Dec 16 17:50 |
| schestowitz | He also did this last week | Dec 16 17:50 |
| schestowitz | I don't know why | Dec 16 17:50 |
| pawel_121 | hi Schestowitz | Dec 16 17:50 |
| schestowitz | It would be rude to ask him, we're like friends | Dec 16 17:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, they advertise with IDG, but there is no influence on content | Dec 16 17:51 |
| MinceR | they're part of "IDGTechNetwork" | Dec 16 17:51 |
| MinceR | is that just an ad network then? | Dec 16 17:52 |
| pawel_121 | maybe Phoronix wanted to make readers a favor and let them to discuss this mono thing? ;) | Dec 16 17:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes | Dec 16 17:52 |
| pawel_121 | nope, it's an article about mono | Dec 16 17:52 |
| schestowitz | pawel_121: check the Forums out | Dec 16 17:52 |
| schestowitz | I haven't | Dec 16 17:52 |
| pawel_121 | I read them already | Dec 16 17:52 |
| MinceR | strange way to express membership in an ad network | Dec 16 17:52 |
| pawel_121 | it's sad some distros put it on cd's | Dec 16 17:54 |
| pawel_121 | btw. there's a poll at planet gnome, so people probably can support RMS | Dec 16 17:54 |
| pawel_121 | it's since some time | Dec 16 17:55 |
| pawel_121 | if someone's interested: | Dec 16 17:59 |
| pawel_121 | http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20990&page=5 | Dec 16 17:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mono 2.6 Released, Supports LLVM Generation - Page 5 - Phoronix Forums .::. Size~: 32.42 KB | Dec 16 17:59 |
| MinceR | can't find the poll, but i've realized that their stylesheet sucks | Dec 16 17:59 |
| pawel_121 | MinceR which poll? at planet gnome? | Dec 16 17:59 |
| MinceR | or something is screwed up there about links | Dec 16 17:59 |
| MinceR | yes | Dec 16 17:59 |
| pawel_121 | wait a moment please | Dec 16 18:00 |
| pawel_121 | http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Z7WHPDF | Dec 16 18:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0 KB | Dec 16 18:01 |
| pawel_121 | something wrong... | Dec 16 18:01 |
| pawel_121 | Rules for Planet GNOME? - title of the comment where the survey is | Dec 16 18:02 |
| MinceR | thx | Dec 16 18:02 |
| pawel_121 | no problem | Dec 16 18:02 |
| MinceR | the bot sometimes fails to fetch titles | Dec 16 18:02 |
| pawel_121 | ok | Dec 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | [17:54] <pawel_121> it's sad some distros put it on cd's | Dec 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | Not much by choice | Dec 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | They are sort of derived from others or packaged with the cruft (mono) | Dec 16 18:04 |
| pawel_121 | but the "core" one | Dec 16 18:04 |
| pawel_121 | like Ubuntu, however Kubuntu is agaist this afaik | Dec 16 18:04 |
| pawel_121 | against* | Dec 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | pawel_121: did you tell us about the Sun FUD? | Dec 16 18:04 |
| schestowitz | From a former employee? | Dec 16 18:05 |
| pawel_121 | yep :) | Dec 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Cause I found something new | Dec 16 18:05 |
| pawel_121 | I don't know if he was an employe | Dec 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz | I posted it here yesterday | Dec 16 18:05 |
| pawel_121 | I'll take a look | Dec 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Solaris talk where they make fun of gnu | Dec 16 18:05 |
| pawel_121 | those Sun's guys are maggots | Dec 16 18:05 |
| schestowitz | No... | Dec 16 18:06 |
| MinceR | yes | Dec 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | They had tango guy.... | Dec 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Now he's at SAP | Dec 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | The company that attacks Sun | Dec 16 18:06 |
| MinceR | they pretend to favor FLOSS only as long as it doesn't involve something that competes with slowlaris | Dec 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | He was also there in EU software strategy panel | Dec 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Attacking F/OSS | Dec 16 18:06 |
| schestowitz | They choose sides depending on who pays | Dec 16 18:07 |
| pawel_121 | exactly, they're not trustworthy | Dec 16 18:07 |
| pawel_121 | thanksfully, sun's almost dead | Dec 16 18:07 |
| pawel_121 | and slowlaris too | Dec 16 18:07 |
| MinceR | i hope sun won't infect oracle with their attitude | Dec 16 18:08 |
| pawel_121 | Oracle probably will let Solaris die | Dec 16 18:09 |
| pawel_121 | I read article where someone mentioned ZFS will come to Linux after this | Dec 16 18:09 |
| MinceR | who did? | Dec 16 18:10 |
| pawel_121 | afaik Chris Mason :> | Dec 16 18:10 |
| pawel_121 | at lwn.net | Dec 16 18:10 |
| MinceR | what's his relationship with sun and oracle? | Dec 16 18:10 |
| pawel_121 | he's an Oracle employer who works at BTRFS | Dec 16 18:11 |
| pawel_121 | on* | Dec 16 18:11 |
| pawel_121 | I'll look for this article | Dec 16 18:11 |
| pawel_121 | oh, it's not Chris article, but someone else | Dec 16 18:15 |
| pawel_121 | however: | Dec 16 18:15 |
| pawel_121 | Now for some personal predictions (based purely on public information - I don't have any insider knowledge). Btrfs will be the default file system on Linux within two years. Btrfs as a project won't (and can't, at this point) be canceled by Oracle. If all the intellectual property issues are worked out (a big if), ZFS will be ported to Linux, but it will have less than a few percent of the installed base of btrfs. Check back in two years and see | Dec 16 18:15 |
| pawel_121 | if I got any of these predictions right! | Dec 16 18:15 |
| pawel_121 | http://lwn.net/Articles/342892/ | Dec 16 18:15 |
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| pawel_121 | big if ;) | Dec 16 18:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ender2070] Olympics Torch Carries Facism to Toronto - http://bit.ly/5Ug65z | Dec 16 18:19 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] RT: @schestowitz: #Microsoft Assumes You Too Are a Criminal http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/16/decaf-vs-msft-spying/ | Dec 16 18:22 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Things Are Going Downhill at #Novell These Days” http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/16/novell-is-imploding-bar-pr/ | Dec 16 18:22 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: Hell Freezes Over. http://rocknerd.co.uk/2009/12/16/hell-freezes-over/ | Dec 16 18:38 | |
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| pawel_121 | bye everyone | Dec 16 18:45 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @ajuonline: RT @ushahidi: On the Ushahidi blog, 3 Common Misconceptions about Ushahidi, http://bit.ly/4FGTVD | Dec 16 18:54 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canon EOS Rebel XT spits in gravity's face, survives 3,000-foot drop http://ur1.ca/hzo0 | Dec 16 19:06 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 16 19:09 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Danish police abuse climate-change demonstrators http://ur1.ca/hzof #douchebag #policestate | Dec 16 19:16 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #BenBernanke is Time's #Douchebag of the Year http://ur1.ca/hzoy #hitler | Dec 16 19:16 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] How shellfish saved us http://ur1.ca/hzp3 #science | Dec 16 19:21 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #UK will be soon disconnected from the #Internet http://ur1.ca/hzp5 | Dec 16 19:21 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ender2070 Olympics Torch Carries Facism to Toronto - http://bit.ly/5Ug65z | Dec 16 19:25 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Brain on the Sistine Chapel http://ur1.ca/hzpc #science #awesome | Dec 16 19:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ODF Gains in #Europe , #Microsoft Still Sneakily Attacks ODF http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/16/opendocument-format-scandinavia/ | Dec 16 19:32 | |
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| schestowitz | Uh oh!! | Dec 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Slashdot has a worm | Dec 16 19:46 |
| schestowitz | The Google Analytics worm | Dec 16 19:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Hard left. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/23550.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/537207.html | Dec 16 19:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Erwin Tenhumberg Can Convince #SAP to Stop Attacking #Sun and #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/hzqs | Dec 16 19:50 | |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft didn't start with their own C compiler | Dec 16 19:54 |
| cubezzz | They used Lattice C until MSC 4 | Dec 16 19:55 |
| cubezzz | google spiders too much | Dec 16 19:57 |
| schestowitz | At least, unlike Bong [sic], this sometimes pays off for sites | Dec 16 19:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | google, a search engine, spiders too much | Dec 16 19:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] #wikipedia http://tinyurl.com/jimmyappeal COUGH UP. OR YOUR HOMEWORK GETS IT. | Dec 16 20:02 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Slashdot appears to have just been infected with the Google Analytics worm, spying on users w/ Google | Dec 16 20:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Re: "RMS" in MS Office, it should serve as a warning not to depend on file formats that are only understood by the company that made them. | Dec 16 20:08 |
| trmanco | is reddit being ddosed or something? | Dec 16 20:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, its just popular | Dec 16 20:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | dohohohohoho | Dec 16 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Eolas patent troll is suing everyone over remote software activation | Dec 16 20:14 |
| trmanco | it has been slow these days | Dec 16 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | in Marshall Texas (Where else?) | Dec 16 20:14 |
| trmanco | I can't stand slow | Dec 16 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | if you have a ridiculous patent trolling lawsuit, it seems Texas will rule in your favor every time | Dec 16 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | good thing there are appeals courts I guess | Dec 16 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, HP had a printer commercial on right now saying you can use their printers to print out your Fandango tickets (which always seem to be like 2-3 dollars more expensive than they are at the theater) | Dec 16 20:16 |
| trmanco | Diablo-D3: it is down for maintenance now :| | Dec 16 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | ahh | Dec 16 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | Why would you print out $9 movie tickets (plus the cost of your paper and ink) rather than buying them for $6 at the movies? | Dec 16 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's not like that many movies will cause a stampede | Dec 16 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | it amuses me that Fandango is still operating after so many years of ripping people off like that | Dec 16 20:19 |
| schestowitz | [20:14] <DaemonFC> in Marshall Texas (Where else?) | Dec 16 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Where everything is mammoth... even lawsuits | Dec 16 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: People cheer on the software patent system on the occasion it bites Microsoft in the ass, but when it comes after Linux or something it's an "evil corrupt system that should be abolished" | Dec 16 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I find that amusing | Dec 16 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | that's like saying we should waive murder laws when someone gets murdered who we didn't like | Dec 16 20:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: not at all | Dec 16 20:32 |
| schestowitz | You don't understand this, I see | Dec 16 20:32 |
| schestowitz | We denounce MS for using swpats | Dec 16 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | you want software patents when they hit Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Sony, etc. but not when they affect something you like | Dec 16 20:32 |
| schestowitz | And when it's hit by them we say, "let this teach them" | Dec 16 20:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | Dec 16 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | to them it's a cost of doing business | Dec 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | We hope they'll realise the system does not help them | Dec 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | And then retreat | Dec 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | It's that simple, DaemonFC | Dec 16 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | they would rather pay out $100 billion than lose the patent system | Dec 16 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | they would rather pay out $1 Trillion than lose the patent system | Dec 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Of course | Dec 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Which shows you who it's for | Dec 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | It's for monopolies and trolls | Dec 16 20:33 |
| schestowitz | Thus we make the point | Dec 16 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | anything they have to pay to not lose the patent system, they will pay | Dec 16 20:34 |
| schestowitz | You see what I mean? | Dec 16 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | you see that they almost always try to strike a settlement without even fighting the patent in question in court? | Dec 16 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566382/broadcom-unveils-mobile-media-superchip | Dec 16 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Another patent pucker! | Dec 16 20:34 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: fine. | Dec 16 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | if they start fighting patents and getting them overturned, the system might be at risk | Dec 16 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | which is why they never fight to get a patent overturned | Dec 16 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | maybe you'll see them fight to prove the patent does not apply to them, that's about it | Dec 16 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Android applications grow like topsy http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566346/android-applications-grow-topsy | Dec 16 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Also, they see the patents as a tool | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | For keping the small guys scared | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Like Red Hat | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | They legitimise Eolas patents... | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | And then they attack the whole industry | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Except MSFT | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft feeds a troll too | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | Nathan 'the scum' Myhrvold | Dec 16 20:36 |
| schestowitz | World's fattest troll | Dec 16 20:37 |
| schestowitz | 20k patents | Dec 16 20:37 |
| schestowitz | Twice that of MSFT | Dec 16 20:37 |
| schestowitz | He's funded by Pearly & Crew *MSFT) | Dec 16 20:37 |
| schestowitz | It just shows you that Microsoft fosters trolls too | Dec 16 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately, the patent issuing system is so sloppy, that a dozen companies/people can hold basically the same patent | Dec 16 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | and all try to "enforce" it | Dec 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | that's not always a bad thing though | Dec 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | nobody knows who can legitimately claim rights to certain MP3 patents for example | Dec 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | which has probably stopped some lawsuits | Dec 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | (while they fight among themselves) | Dec 16 20:40 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html | Dec 16 20:53 |
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| DaemonFC | Malware for Ubuntu in a "screensaver" installer | Dec 16 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | that sounds familiar | Dec 16 20:54 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Coding Horror: International Backup Awareness Day http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001315.html | Dec 16 21:00 | |
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| schestowitz | wallc_: thanks for the mail | Dec 16 21:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/3374 | Dec 16 21:06 |
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| wallc_ | :o) You're welcome. | Dec 16 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.last.fm/music/Anne+Feeney/_/War+on+the+Workers | Dec 16 21:15 |
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| wallc_ | Had you seen those pictures together before? | Dec 16 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.last.fm/music/Anne+Feeney/_/The+U.S.+Steal+Song | Dec 16 21:20 |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: I would maybe call myself a labor democrat | Dec 16 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | but those are an extinct species | Dec 16 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | all there are now are liberals | Dec 16 21:22 |
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| DaemonFC | liberal democrats are a cancer that has stabbed the working class in the back in order to pander to minorities and globalization | Dec 16 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 16 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | they're to labor democrats what neoconservatives are to conservatives | Dec 16 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's why there's no way you can vote in the US that will bring productive change, it'll be an authoritarian warlike hatefest, or a welfare (for everyone, even if they don't need it) state | Dec 16 21:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&aid=174722 | Dec 16 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, she just left | Dec 16 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Spoke to my sister, didn't pay attention. | Dec 16 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | and by welfare, I don't just mean bribes and cash for votes, I mean "immigration amnesty" and "hate crimes laws" | Dec 16 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | if I kill an atheist it's only one crime, if I kill a Catholic it's two, if I kill a Catholic that self-identifies as gay/lesbian/transgender it's three, if I kill a gay/lesbian/transgender Catholic who was Hispanic, it's four crimes | Dec 16 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | it gets ridiculous fast | Dec 16 21:27 |
| MinceR | it was ridiculous already when it was a catholic | Dec 16 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | how many crimes can you get charged with for murdering one person? As many minorities or religious types that they fall under, plus murder | Dec 16 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: What I just described is what the hate crimes bill that Obama signed did | Dec 16 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | makes special protected classes of people that give the perpetrator a tougher sentence jsut because they were religious, a minority, or both | Dec 16 21:29 |
| MinceR | i'm not surprised | Dec 16 21:29 |
| MinceR | it's Jesusland after all | Dec 16 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | well, it covers gays and different races (everything but white) | Dec 16 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | obviously | Dec 16 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | so if I wanted to be a jerk about it, if someone punched me, I could say it was cause I'm gay and make it a hate crime too | Dec 16 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | they could get one year for assaulting me and five years cause I'm gay | Dec 16 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | isn't that just spectacular? | Dec 16 21:30 |
| MinceR | it is | Dec 16 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | that's the best example of what the liberal Democrats have done to America that I've seen in years | Dec 16 21:31 |
| schestowitz | http://eaves.ca/2009/12/14/the-walrus-fair-dealing-the-culture-of-journalism/ | Dec 16 21:34 |
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| DaemonFC | the last time they did something this colossally stupid, it was NAFTA | Dec 16 21:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/45055-uk-news-aggregator-dumps-national-newspapers?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tgdaily_all_sections+(TG+Daily+-+All+News)&utm_content=Google+Reader | Dec 16 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | NAFTA has/will continue to hurt us more though | Dec 16 21:34 |
| schestowitz | newspapers fail | Dec 16 21:34 |
| schestowitz | NAFTA is good... | Dec 16 21:35 |
| schestowitz | That's why they passed it so secretly | Dec 16 21:35 |
| schestowitz | No consultation with the public needed | Dec 16 21:35 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Dec 16 21:35 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-independent.co.uk-launches-social-events-planner/ | Dec 16 21:35 |
| schestowitz | It's funny seeing the big papers squirming | Dec 16 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The free trade agreement with Canada was alright, because Canada actually buys about as much back from us as they sell to us | Dec 16 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | maybe more | Dec 16 21:35 |
| schestowitz | ebay and Craig help squash them through classifieds | Dec 16 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Mexico is a shithole and goods only flow one way | Dec 16 21:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good for the US you mean | Dec 16 21:36 |
| schestowitz | You'd get different answers from CA | Dec 16 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | maybe | Dec 16 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not Canadian though, so they can take it up with their government | Dec 16 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Mexica is good for the US ec0onomy | Dec 16 21:36 |
| schestowitz | It reduces worker security | Dec 16 21:36 |
| schestowitz | Which means that people work harder and complain less | Dec 16 21:36 |
| schestowitz | GDP goes up | Dec 16 21:36 |
| schestowitz | And people are ever more miserable, but hey! It's all about the economy | Dec 16 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: 300 jobs just came here from some Canadian grill company | Dec 16 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | 65 more from a company that makes wheel rims for cars | Dec 16 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | why would this town complain about Canada? | Dec 16 21:37 |
| schestowitz | "Oh! and it's all about job creation" -- Palin | Dec 16 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | they're the only reason our employment won't be double digits here in a few months | Dec 16 21:38 |
| schestowitz | it already is | Dec 16 21:38 |
| schestowitz | You just redefined "unemployment" | Dec 16 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | well, they've replaced the number of jobs I've seen leave in the last couple years | Dec 16 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | we'll be doing a lot better when all of those get added back in | Dec 16 21:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.jeanfrancisahanda.com/2009/12/14/icann-welcomes-mz-mozambique/ | Dec 16 21:39 |
| schestowitz | 51st state | Dec 16 21:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: ICANN Welcomes .MZ (Mozambique& | JeanFrancisAhanda.com .::. Size~: 87.95 KB | Dec 16 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | beats being homeless | Dec 16 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of people will be just about ready to lose their unemployment by the time those jobs get here | Dec 16 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | is that like how there's a tld for Somalia an Afghanistan? | Dec 16 21:40 |
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| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> a lot of people will be just about ready to lose their unemployment by the time those jobs get here | Dec 16 21:56 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> is that like how there's a tld for Somalia an Afghanistan? | Dec 16 21:56 |
| schestowitz | <DaemonFC> http://www.last.fm/music/Anne+Feeney/_/The+Sick+Note | Dec 16 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Stupid netsplits | Dec 16 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | agggh | Dec 16 21:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djVaJN0f0VQ Copying Is Not Theft - let the re-recording begin! | Dec 16 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Or tent cities | Dec 16 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/16/AR2009121601906.html | Dec 16 22:00 |
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| DaemonFC | "Few Americans will see any benefit until 2014, by which time premiums are likely to have doubled. In short, the winners in this bill are insurance companies; the American taxpayer is about to be fleeced with a bailout in a situation that dwarfs even what happened at AIG. " | Dec 16 22:00 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: ARM/Linux... http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/6725047234 | Dec 16 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | What speed are you on? | Dec 16 22:04 |
| schestowitz | ChanServ: CE and Linux | Dec 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | But CE is the fail | Dec 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/16/danish-police-abuse.h | Dec 16 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | Welcome to WW2 | Dec 16 22:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/16/fujitsu_services_strike_back_on/ | Dec 16 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | "TomBoy - rocking note-taking and synchronization - I love TomBoy so much I am tempted to name my first born Tom if we have a boy. " | Dec 16 22:36 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=28330 | Dec 16 22:36 |
| schestowitz | This is weird: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/education/15plans.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss | Dec 16 22:45 |
| schestowitz | "Between Craigslist and eBay, the Internet is well established as a marketplace where one person’s trash is transformed into another’s treasure. Now, thousands of teachers are cashing in on a commodity they used to give away, selling lesson plans online for exercises as simple as M&M sorting and as sophisticated as Shakespeare." | Dec 16 22:45 |
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| trmanco | cool | Dec 16 22:45 |
| trmanco | http://www.thinkdigit.com/Internet/Multi-process-plugins-come-to-Firefox_3832.html | Dec 16 22:45 |
| trmanco | let's try :D | Dec 16 22:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://media.ffii.org/DataRetPlenary51213/ | Dec 16 22:48 |
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| trmanco | 97 on acid3 test | Dec 16 22:49 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Snow Leopard more interesting than Windows 7? & News bytes 16/12/09 http://tinyurl.com/yctsvzr #microsoft #windows #snow leopard #apple | Dec 16 22:53 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Cherrypal-Africa-and-secondgeneration-Bing/?kc=rss | Dec 16 23:01 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | UK Government Seeks New Web Censorship Powers http://tinyurl.com/ycenc5f | Dec 16 23:04 | |
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| schestowitz | Gr........ netsplits for 2 days now | Dec 16 23:28 |
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| willimm | Hey oiaohm | Dec 16 23:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] You'd think Swan would be the ideal sponsors of "Match Of The Day", unless you believe the BS about the BBC not doing deals with corps | Dec 16 23:31 | |
| oiaohm | Hi willimm | Dec 16 23:34 |
| oiaohm | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzgxMQ Nice | Dec 16 23:36 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I'd love to see a job advert for a pogo stick tester in a mine field :-D | Dec 16 23:40 | |
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