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schestowitzHi, jonoDec 21 00:02
jonohyeDec 21 00:02
jonoheyDec 21 00:02
jono_goblin, cool :)Dec 21 00:02
jonoright, time for bed for meDec 21 00:02
jonoearly nightDec 21 00:02
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] The Bothans' inside man http://tinyurl.com/ye4hstlDec 21 00:02
phIRCe-localTitle: The Bothans' inside man .::. Size~: 67.4 KBDec 21 00:02
_goblinnight!Dec 21 00:03
_goblintake care...Dec 21 00:03
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_goblinyou must be tired after that long chat....Dec 21 00:03
_goblin;)Dec 21 00:03
_goblinoh...Dec 21 00:03
_goblinmissed him....Dec 21 00:03
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_goblin:)Dec 21 00:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “DRM is Probably 70% of the Complication in Supporting Open Source” http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/20/radeonhd-vs-drm/Dec 21 00:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft , Wake Up and Smell Defeat! http://tinyurl.com/yz9ynge #zune #microsoft #fail - Thanks BN! Great find!Dec 21 00:17
phIRCe-localTitle: “DRM is Probably 70% of the Complication in Supporting Open Source” | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 105.9 KBDec 21 00:17
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Open Invention Network, or the non-solution to software patents and patent trolls: http://i5.be/47Dec 21 00:24
phIRCe-localTitle: Keith Bergelt: Trendspotting in 2010 and Beyond: The Future of IP in a Linux-Enabled World   - CNBC .::. Size~: 124.7 KBDec 21 00:24
schestowitzzoobab_: I was surprised when Moglen thanks Keith and OINDec 21 00:25
schestowitzSo I no longer think they are totally harmful to abolishersDec 21 00:25
schestowitzMoglen said we owe them thanks (to Keith) after they scooped up the Microsoft made bidding onDec 21 00:26
*schestowitz prepared mccreevy WIKI PAGE.... as reference to be usedDec 21 00:27
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New page... on Charlie McCreevy... http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Charlie_McCreevyDec 21 00:49
phIRCe-localTitle: Charlie McCreevy - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 14.88 KBDec 21 00:49
schestowitzHeh. BN cited twice here: http://www.classroom20.com/forum/topics/more-countries-adopting-ubuntuDec 21 00:52
phIRCe-localTitle: More countries adopting Ubuntu and Open Source - Classroom 2.0 .::. Size~: 44.53 KBDec 21 00:52
schestowitzhttp://www.illinoistrialpractice.com/2009/12/conducting-discovery-by-focusing-on-witnesses.htmlDec 21 01:01
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schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/14/AR2009121403689.htmlDec 21 01:04
phIRCe-localTitle: Supreme Court will decide whether employees' text messages are private - washingtonpost.com .::. Size~: 96.37 KBDec 21 01:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Apache on cPanel weirdness: "combined combined combined". http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/24245.htmlDec 21 01:06
phIRCe-localTitle: reddragdiva | Apache on cPanel weirdness. Combined combined combined. .::. Size~: 27.58 KBDec 21 01:06
sebsebsebschestowitz the link man!  Got a link for the European Microsoft deal regarding browsers, a good link?Dec 21 01:08
sebsebsebregarding the browser choice screenDec 21 01:08
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "I used Edlin..." http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20091201Dec 21 01:09
schestowitz"French ERP (enterprise resource planning) vendor Nexedi made a public bid Monday to take over stewardship of the open-source MySQL database from Sun Microsystems, offering a symbolic €1 in return." http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/184585/erp_vendor_offers_to_take_over_mysql.htmlDec 21 01:10
phIRCe-localTitle: ERP Vendor Offers to Take Over MySQL - PC World Business Center .::. Size~: 63.37 KBDec 21 01:10
schestowitzI hope they do something like thatDec 21 01:10
schestowitz"A federal judge on Tuesday dismissed the entire criminal stock-options backdating case against two former Broadcom Corp. executives, concluding that the government's handling of the case "distorted the truth-finding process" and made a "mockery" of the defendants' due process rights...." http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202436371130&Judge_Says_Government_Distorted_the_TruthFinding_Process_in_Broadcom_CaseDec 21 01:12
phIRCe-localTitle: Law.com - Judge Says Government 'Distorted the Truth-Finding Process' in Broadcom Case .::. Size~: 35.8 KBDec 21 01:13
schestowitzhttp://abovethelaw.com/2009/12/steve_cohen_lawsuit_ex_wife_rico.phpDec 21 01:14
schestowitzICODec 21 01:14
schestowitzRICODec 21 01:14
schestowitzhttp://www.ajc.com/news/biden-to-announce-fiber-243448.htmlDec 21 01:15
phIRCe-localTitle: Fiber-optic network will link Atlanta, N.C.  | ajc.com .::. Size~: 62.07 KBDec 21 01:15
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Sony BMG beats Sony BMG to Christmas number one http://is.gd/5vsYPDec 21 01:19
phIRCe-localTitle:   Sony BMG beats Sony BMG to Christmas number one | NewsTechnica .::. Size~: 23.41 KBDec 21 01:19
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/17/nvidia_on_intel_suit/Dec 21 01:24
phIRCe-localTitle: Nvidia boss: Intel suit to 'transform computer industry' • The Register .::. Size~: 29.68 KBDec 21 01:24
schestowitzAnd Cringely actually thought Intel would buy NvidiaDec 21 01:25
schestowitzPennsylvania police accused of cover-up in immigrant's murder http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/16/mexican-immigrant-murderDec 21 01:38
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ender2070 oh, I see..... http://xkcd.com/378/Dec 21 01:50
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Someone outside is making a giant crop circle-like shape..... in the piles of snowDec 21 01:56
schestowitzhttp://etherpad.com/ep/blog/posts/etherpad-open-source-releaseDec 21 02:03
phIRCe-localTitle: EtherPad Blog: EtherPad Open Source Release .::. Size~: 8.24 KBDec 21 02:03
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] hehehe !emacs http://xkcd.com/378/ (via @schestowitz)Dec 21 02:14
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ender2070_awesome bruce perens interviewDec 21 04:11
ender2070_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZL_9OXsilwDec 21 04:11
ender2070_credits RMS a lotDec 21 04:11
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ender2070_there is a KDE 4.4 beta1 for F12? (kde-unstable) ?Dec 21 04:21
ender2070_mtDec 21 04:22
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ender2070_interesting if ppl didnt seeDec 21 05:50
ender2070_http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00176.htmlDec 21 05:50
ender2070_http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00088.htmlDec 21 05:52
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ender2070_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj590HkBwYgDec 21 06:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, Microsoft has a new "patent covenent" for Moonlight and MonoDec 21 06:53
DaemonFCthey state that they won't sue other distributors for distributing itDec 21 06:54
ender2070_old newsDec 21 06:55
ender2070_it doesn't really mean muchDec 21 06:55
DaemonFCI don't really know how enforceable it would be in court anywayDec 21 06:56
DaemonFCthey're just stating they won't sue you or any distributor of it, but is that legally binding?Dec 21 06:57
ender2070_legally binding? I doubt it and its quite vagueDec 21 06:59
ender2070_doesnt prevent ms from selling patents to someone else to sue for themDec 21 06:59
DaemonFCso they could easily just sell a few .Net patents to some trolls and that works around their promise not to sueDec 21 07:01
DaemonFCcoolDec 21 07:01
DaemonFCit really makes me wonder why they are promoting Mono and MoonlightDec 21 07:01
DaemonFCthey wouldn't do it unless it would make them money later somehowDec 21 07:01
DaemonFCeven a lawsuit over it wouldn't be the end of LinuxDec 21 07:02
ender2070_they are promoting mono and moonlight because they like ms technologyDec 21 07:08
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tessierschestowitz: No throttling on the server except in number of connections from any one IP to prevent DoS and your IP is whitelisted.Dec 21 08:37
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schestowitztessier: thanks, I was jumping to this assumption based on just one hangupDec 21 08:42
ziggyfish_schestowitz, I was looking at that above link earlier in the day, looks interestingDec 21 08:46
schestowitzWhich one?Dec 21 08:48
ziggyfish_http://etherpad.com/ep/blog/posts/etherpad-open-source-releaseDec 21 08:48
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: International Survey of Web Accessibility Policies White Paper: G3ict Publishes International Sur... http://bit.ly/8koVxZDec 21 08:50
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schestowitzGoogle expands tracking to logged out usersDec 21 08:51
schestowitzhttp://www.informationliberation.com/?id=28195Dec 21 08:51
schestowitzziggyfish_: yeah, people can installed it locally now. privacy too....Dec 21 08:51
DaemonFCheh, in Virginia, they observed Martin Luther King Jr. day on the same day as the birthday celebration for Robert E. Lee and "Stonewall" JacksonDec 21 08:59
DaemonFCuntil 2001Dec 21 08:59
DaemonFCas  Lee-Jackson-King DayDec 21 08:59
DaemonFChmmm, one of these things is not like the others B-)Dec 21 09:00
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] It's -4 degrees. What the HELL am I doing about to go to work?Dec 21 09:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: gives something else to mark, esp. to white supremacist who hate  Martin Luther KingDec 21 09:27
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091217-712338.htmlDec 21 09:28
phIRCe-localTitle: UPDATE: Small Design Firm Sues Microsoft Over Bing Name - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 96.44 KBDec 21 09:28
schestowitzBut Microsoft's is called Bong, no?Dec 21 09:28
DaemonFCschestowitz, It's amazing how many southern states still have some kind of Confederate holidaysDec 21 09:28
DaemonFCbut what I also found amusing was that a clause in the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution statesd that none of the European countries who loaned the Confederate States money would ever be repaidDec 21 09:29
DaemonFCmakes me wonder how much money these British and French banks gambled and lost on the CSADec 21 09:30
schestowitz"Unfortunately, the video is unverified. The chap who uploaded hasn't responded yet for comment, and this  piece will be updated when I know more. What do you think: real or fake?"Dec 21 09:30
schestowitzhttp://www.examiner.com/x-32162-LA-Business-Tech-Examiner~y2009m12d20-Microsoft-CEO-Ballmer-fires-staffer-for-not-saying-Bing-with-enough-enthusiasmDec 21 09:30
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DaemonFCthey were probably loaning money to both sides (just my guess)Dec 21 09:30
DaemonFCthat's what usually happens in a war, play both sides down the middle, finance bigger badder weaponsDec 21 09:31
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schestowitzOne side always wins in war.... the business sideDec 21 09:32
DaemonFCI'm sure that most of Europe had the goal of funding both sides of the Civil War and watching the body count rise as we blew ourselves upDec 21 09:32
DaemonFCthe money being paid back was not their main concernDec 21 09:32
DaemonFCto them, it was investing in our loss of lives and infrastructureDec 21 09:32
schestowitzhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a1jwVtGQmErkDec 21 09:33
phIRCe-localTitle: Twitter Is Said to Be Profitable After Making Search Agreements  - Bloomberg.com .::. Size~: 36.06 KBDec 21 09:33
DaemonFCcrippling us, making us uncompetitive with their economies for 20 years or soDec 21 09:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: life is expensiveDec 21 09:33
schestowitzBut also had valueDec 21 09:33
schestowitzThat's why we're barcodedDec 21 09:33
schestowitz"Minted"Dec 21 09:33
schestowitzAT least in the U.S.A.Dec 21 09:34
DaemonFCwell, what's funny is that the people that were funding the war over there, to this day, lodge ethical complaints against usDec 21 09:34
DaemonFCracism for exampleDec 21 09:34
schestowitzBut you are racist, DaemonFCDec 21 09:34
DaemonFCwhile their countries had no qualms about doubling the casualties of the warDec 21 09:34
schestowitzYou personallyDec 21 09:35
schestowitzWhat do you make of this?Dec 21 09:35
DaemonFCso as far as I'm concerned, schestowitz....Dec 21 09:35
schestowitz Pennsylvania police accused of cover-up in immigrant's murder http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/16/mexican-immigrant-murderDec 21 09:35
DaemonFCfunding the war is worse than a little residual racismDec 21 09:35
DaemonFC600,000 dead people cause you bought the bombs and bulletsDec 21 09:35
schestowitzYeah, I read somewhere that Rothschild helped fund the EUropean warsDec 21 09:35
schestowitzBoth sides even, IIRCDec 21 09:35
DaemonFCwouldn't surprise meDec 21 09:36
schestowitzBut what about Preston Bush, DaemonFC?Dec 21 09:36
DaemonFCthe fucking UN always ties our hands when we want to intervene against genocideDec 21 09:36
DaemonFCso why bother trying to intervene?Dec 21 09:36
schestowitzGeorge Bush was even more open about it... wearing cowboy hat, boots, and faking a Texas accentDec 21 09:36
DaemonFCI'm thinking like, Serbia-KosovoDec 21 09:37
schestowitzWar crimeDec 21 09:37
DaemonFChow the "international coalition" stopped the US from kicking some war criminal assDec 21 09:37
schestowitzNot just theirs,thoughDec 21 09:37
schestowitzAnd Milosevich [spelling] should not be the only one to be broght into Hague tribunalDec 21 09:38
schestowitz[09:37] <DaemonFC> how the "international coalition" stopped the US from kicking some war criminal assDec 21 09:38
schestowitz*LOL*Dec 21 09:38
schestowitzNo Dec 21 09:38
schestowitzOppositeDec 21 09:38
schestowitzThe UN accused the US of war crimesDec 21 09:38
schestowitzAnd the US snubbed the UNDec 21 09:38
DaemonFCwell, there's also the thought of American casualties from trying to police two sides who will kill each other when we leave anywayDec 21 09:38
schestowitzThe US also vetoes many UN council proposals/resolutionsDec 21 09:38
DaemonFCthat's not politically wise or advisableDec 21 09:39
schestowitzBecause it's the "owner" of the worldDec 21 09:39
DaemonFCthe UN is a parasite, it's a shamDec 21 09:39
DaemonFCthere's really only like 5 countries that get a say on anything that mattersDec 21 09:39
DaemonFCI wonder who else gets veto power, schestowitz Dec 21 09:39
ziggyfish_http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/12/mozilla_claims.html;jsessionid=HV2BRDTHVOURNQE1GHPSKHWATMY32JVNDec 21 09:40
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ziggyfish_Mozilla Claims Browser Will Run All Future AppsDec 21 09:40
DaemonFCthere's Russia, China, France, and the United KingdomDec 21 09:40
DaemonFCas well as the United StatesDec 21 09:40
DaemonFCso any one of those could bully the other couple hundred countriesDec 21 09:40
DaemonFCthe system is bogus, I never said it wasn'tDec 21 09:41
DaemonFCas long as anyone has veto power, everyone else is fuckedDec 21 09:41
DaemonFCwhen your president, prime minister, benevolent dictator for life, or whatever decides to address the UN, he's really only talking to five countriesDec 21 09:42
DaemonFCand eventually, India is going to want a permenant seat on the "Security Council" with veto powers and allDec 21 09:43
DaemonFCschestowitz, Basically, Russia and China would immediately go to bat for IranDec 21 09:44
DaemonFCno questions about itDec 21 09:44
DaemonFCthe Russians are even selling them materials to make nuclear bombsDec 21 09:44
DaemonFCsame deal with North Korea, China will veto any sanctions on themDec 21 09:44
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/184808/android_market_hits_20000_apps_milestone.htmlDec 21 09:45
phIRCe-localTitle: Android Market Hits 20,000 Apps Milestone - PC World .::. Size~: 76.6 KBDec 21 09:45
schestowitzziggyfish_: possibleDec 21 09:45
schestowitzBut the browser might also come tighter w/ OSDec 21 09:45
schestowitzziggyfish_: http://www.9to5mac.com/windows_7_last_one_30216Dec 21 09:46
phIRCe-localTitle: IDC speculates Windows 7 will be last PC OS from Microsoft | 9 to 5 Mac .::. Size~: 91.71 KBDec 21 09:46
DaemonFCIDC is usually full of itDec 21 09:46
ziggyfish_if only that were trueDec 21 09:47
*ziggyfish_ snaps back out of a dream where Microsoft didn't existsDec 21 09:47
DaemonFCthere will be Windows in some formDec 21 09:47
schestowitzhttp://www.kmph.com/Global/story.asp?S=11686480Dec 21 09:47
phIRCe-localTitle: AP Top News at 5:55 p.m. EST - December 16 - KMPH Fox 26 Central San Joaquin Valley News Source in Fresno, California  Entertainment, News, Sports and Weather |  .::. Size~: 61.27 KBDec 21 09:47
DaemonFCit'll obviously change some, but it'll go onDec 21 09:47
schestowitzThe liberals' longtime dream of a government-run health care system for all died Wednesday in the Senate, but Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies "are no longer needed." Sanders, an independent and socialist, said his approach is the only one "which eliminates the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, administrative costs, bureaucracy and profiteering Dec 21 09:47
schestowitzthat is engendered by the private insurance companies."Dec 21 09:47
DaemonFC"Windows" has already been around in some form for going on 25 years nowDec 21 09:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: you seem to be treating many non-US nations as "evil"Dec 21 09:48
schestowitzLike Korea, China, etc.Dec 21 09:48
DaemonFCit's the software that runs on it that becomes outdated and dies off and gets replacedDec 21 09:48
schestowitzI don't agree with you on itDec 21 09:48
ziggyfish_DaemonFC: windows have been around for longer than thatDec 21 09:49
schestowitzAnd BTW, both Russia and China sort of denounced Iran over nukaesDec 21 09:49
schestowitzSo your accusations make no senseDec 21 09:49
ziggyfish_Window is first recorded in the early 13th centuryDec 21 09:49
DaemonFCschestowitz, enough to distance themselvesDec 21 09:49
ziggyfish_;)Dec 21 09:49
DaemonFCwhile they still provide them with aide and comfortDec 21 09:49
DaemonFC(and enriched uranium)Dec 21 09:49
schestowitzMaybe for power plantsDec 21 09:50
DaemonFCbullshitDec 21 09:50
DaemonFCIran is sitting on how much oil?Dec 21 09:50
DaemonFCI doubt Muslims care about carbon dioxide any more than the Christians seem toDec 21 09:50
schestowitzhttp://www.fiercewireless.com/story/blackberry-revenues-profits-swell-q3/2009-12-17Dec 21 09:51
phIRCe-localTitle: BlackBerry revenues, profits swell in Q3 - FierceWireless .::. Size~: 43.08 KBDec 21 09:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: they consume little of itDec 21 09:51
schestowitzI refer you to http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/010879.htmlDec 21 09:51
DaemonFCschestowitz, their religion tells them to just ruin everything, burn all the fuel, cause Jesus or Allah or something will come back and save themDec 21 09:51
phIRCe-localTitle: Worldchanging: Bright Green: A Global Perspective on US Climate Emissions .::. Size~: 47.73 KBDec 21 09:51
DaemonFCbut only themDec 21 09:51
DaemonFCand only particular faction among themDec 21 09:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: apocalyptists are dangerousDec 21 09:52
DaemonFCit still doesn't add up that they want that much weapons grade uraniumDec 21 09:52
schestowitzThey are the ones more likely to launch nukes to go to "Heaven" fasterDec 21 09:52
DaemonFCwell, yeah it does, cause they're building bombsDec 21 09:53
schestowitzNo.Dec 21 09:53
schestowitzBut the idea of suicide bombing where people are swapped by "nations" is scaryDec 21 09:53
schestowitz"MAD to Heaven......"Dec 21 09:54
DaemonFCschestowitz, Allah told me to savagely murder youDec 21 09:54
DaemonFCbut I'm all about peaceDec 21 09:54
DaemonFC:DDec 21 09:54
DaemonFCtheir idea of peace is after they kill everyone who disagrees with themDec 21 09:54
schestowitzOuch!Dec 21 09:55
schestowitz"Credit Suisse Group, one of Switzerland's largest banks, may pay $536 million to settle accusations that the Zurich-based bank helped process payments that permitted Iran and other nations facing government sanctions gain access to US financial markets."Dec 21 09:55
schestowitzhttp://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2009/12/morning_report_swiss_bank_pays.htmlDec 21 09:55
phIRCe-localTitle: Morning Report: Swiss Bank Pays Sanctions Fine; Microsoft Settles with Europe - Planet Money Blog : NPR .::. Size~: 49.75 KBDec 21 09:55
schestowitzIt's all about money! :-)Dec 21 09:55
DaemonFCyou only settle when you know you're in the wrongDec 21 09:55
ziggyfish_it's all about controlDec 21 09:55
schestowitzIf you make money, then you are a wonderful smart personDec 21 09:55
schestowitzIf you are poor or our of work, then you are a stupid worthless personDec 21 09:56
schestowitz /sarcasmDec 21 09:56
ziggyfish_or powerDec 21 09:56
ziggyfish_the more power you have, the more you can do (like force people to pay you)Dec 21 09:57
schestowitzhttp://www.crunchgear.com/2009/12/18/decaf-the-anti-microsoft-cofee-pulled-it-was-a-stunt-designed-to-rally-yall/Dec 21 10:02
phIRCe-localTitle:   DECAF, the anti-Microsoft COFEE, pulled. It was a stunt designed to rally yall.  .::. Size~: 38.76 KBDec 21 10:02
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schestowitzhttps://home.modernhealthcare.com/clickshare/authenticateUserSubscription.do?CSProduct=modernhealthcare-sub&CSAuthReq=1:173376218098997:AID|IDAID=20091214/SUB/912109998|ID=:9AD94A40DFA608D2386D54B24235EA2F&AID=20091214/SUB/912109998&title=H1N1%20under%20surveillance&ID=&CSTargetURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modernhealthcare.com%2Fapps%2Fpbcs.dll%2Flogin%3FAssignSessionID%3D173376218098997%26AID%3D20091214%2FSUB%2F912109998Dec 21 10:07
schestowitzWhat an ugly URLDec 21 10:08
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schestowitzhttp://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Intel-to-FTC-Were-Not-Microsoft-68914.htmlDec 21 10:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/software/222002736;jsessionid=2NEXCSQP0JFJ1QE1GHOSKH4ATMY32JVNDec 21 10:14
phIRCe-localTitle: Magazine Predicts Ballmer Will Get Canned In 2010 - Software - IT Channel News by CRN .::. Size~: 71.08 KBDec 21 10:14
schestowitzhttp://www.crn.com/software/222002192;jsessionid=2NEXCSQP0JFJ1QE1GHOSKH4ATMY32JVNDec 21 10:15
phIRCe-localTitle: Is Ray Ozzie On His Way Out At Microsoft? - Software - IT Channel News by CRN .::. Size~: 71.02 KBDec 21 10:15
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schestowitzhttp://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/15/microsoft-recruits-student-bloggers-with-free-software-and-trips-to-conferences/Dec 21 10:38
phIRCe-localTitle:   Microsoft Recruits Student Bloggers With Free Software And Trips To Conferences   .::. Size~: 87.92 KBDec 21 10:38
schestowitzhttp://www.sdtimes.com/MICROSOFT_REACHES_OUT_WITH_TOUCH_/By_David_Worthington/About_MICROSOFT/34001Dec 21 10:38
schestowitzBring on the bribes, Microsof!!Dec 21 10:38
ziggyfish_it seems to me that Microsoft has only one competitive strategy, embrace, extend and extinguishDec 21 10:48
ziggyfish_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish ,read the examples (every one of the examples have something to do with microsoft)Dec 21 10:49
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ziggyfish_anyway time to go to bed, c ya in the morningDec 21 10:52
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schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/20/AR2009122002654.htmlDec 21 10:53
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schestowitzMicrosoft tried to buy themDec 21 10:53
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Migrated http://kalaisurabi.org.in/ to drupalDec 21 11:14
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] My laptop has now been converted to !XFCE by uninstalling gtk and glib (#Gnome, etc) and reinstalling the few things I do want + XFCEDec 21 12:19
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Surprisingly, without a lot of the #Gnome requirements, I can go from power on to usable !XFCE desktop in, I swear, half the timeDec 21 12:19
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] I swapped out GDM for #Slim as well. It seems to go well with !XFCE.Dec 21 12:24
schestowitzWe have these load spikes still, preventing people from accessing the site on occasionsDec 21 12:43
schestowitzMaybe it's worth redoing cacheDec 21 12:43
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Playing once more with offlineimap to sync down gmail to another machine to run mutt on. fun!Dec 21 12:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] http://NewsTechnica.com browser stats (raw hits): FF ~1500, Chrome ~1000, Safari ~1000, MSIE ... 58. my friends are geeks.Dec 21 13:00
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] and one hit from Lynx. Wonder who that was.Dec 21 13:01
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cubezzzcould be me :)Dec 21 13:03
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] De Facto Microsoft Press: “Google is the Patriot Act on Steroids”, Takes Pictures of Your Kids http://ur1.ca/ib26Dec 21 13:14
phIRCe-localTitle: De Facto Microsoft Press: “Google is the Patriot Act on Steroids”, Takes Pictures of Your Kids | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 110.35 KBDec 21 13:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Nellie Kroes in bed with Microsoft for protecting their soft patents, commercial software redefined, champagne in Redmond!: http://i5.be/5kDec 21 13:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I note that Eurostar's reputation has taken a hammering over the last few days, well deserved it seems too. This appears to be the REAL coDec 21 13:21
phIRCe-localTitle: Front-page: EU settlement: ECMA 376 not ISO 29500 .::. Size~: 23.03 KBDec 21 13:21
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] damn! :( fixing the css for IE6 .Dec 21 13:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] every time I hear "duct tape" I can't help think it sounds like "duck tape", it's quackers, it's really is.Dec 21 13:24
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Does Not Endorse #Microsoft ’s Search, Media Distortions to Blame http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/21/asa-dotzler-misquoted/Dec 21 13:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Mozilla Does Not Endorse Microsofts Search, Media Distortions to Blame | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 105.97 KBDec 21 13:36
cubezzzyou don't like bing?Dec 21 13:37
cubezzzbing! bing!Dec 21 13:37
cubezzz;-)Dec 21 13:38
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #HP computers are racist http://ur1.ca/ib4bDec 21 13:44
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schestowitzcubezzz: :-)Dec 21 13:57
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s Expansions in #India and #EDGI in India Lead to Call for a Boycott http://ur1.ca/ib7pDec 21 14:19
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Dear God, Why the fuc* did you let microsoft create IE 6 :(Dec 21 14:39
zoobab_hiDec 21 15:01
zoobab_do you know where I can find info aboutMoglen thinking OIN?Dec 21 15:02
zoobab_thankingDec 21 15:02
zoobab_http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-205107/eu-settlement:ecma-376-not-iso-29500Dec 21 15:02
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zoobab_nastyDec 21 15:02
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Started my old pc with a screw driver :P, I badly need a jumper to connect my on/off pin;Dec 21 15:04
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Argg This is how a standard compliant website looks in IE6 http://api.browsershots.org/png/original/f6/f65bd80b9dca2f2a464413f44d92c7f3.pngDec 21 15:09
phIRCe-localTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KBDec 21 15:09
cubezzzred hat could hit $30 a share todayDec 21 15:15
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Still Corrupts the Meaning of “Open” in Order to Enter #Government Contracts http://ur1.ca/ibe0Dec 21 15:16
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft Still Corrupts the Meaning of “Open” in Order to Enter Government Contracts, Cronies Help | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 113.12 KBDec 21 15:16
trmancohttp://www.digikam.org/node/491Dec 21 15:18
phIRCe-localTitle: Merry Christmas : digiKam 1.0.0 is there... | digiKam - Photo Management Program .::. Size~: 53.36 KBDec 21 15:18
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Boy George in Celebrity Big Brother court plea - that scuppers his chances, they always do it in complete secrecy http://tinyurl.com/y8klyehDec 21 15:22
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC News - Boy George in Celebrity Big Brother court plea .::. Size~: 47.7 KBDec 21 15:22
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Tory tax allies 'subsidised' by the taxpayer | Politics | The Guardian http://tinyurl.com/yaafvpmDec 21 15:43
schestowitzhEY, zoobab_Dec 21 15:45
schestowitzzoobab_: hold on..Dec 21 15:45
schestowitzzoobab_: did you see my post about this?Dec 21 15:45
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/20/bad-eu-deal-and-oin/Dec 21 15:45
phIRCe-localTitle: Microsoft Press Acknowledges Microsofts Free Software-Hostile EU Deal | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 128.51 KBDec 21 15:45
schestowitzAbout Eben thanking Keith and OIN (Which surprised me): http://boycottnovell.com/2009/09/13/trolls-perspective-codeplex/Dec 21 15:46
phIRCe-localTitle: OIN Receives Thanks from Many, CodePlex Foundation Receives Thumbs-Down from Many | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 141.81 KBDec 21 15:46
schestowitzThe links there somewhere, to Eben's academic blog/pageDec 21 15:46
zoobab_you should write better titlesDec 21 15:50
ender2070he writes so often it would be hard to come up with creative titlesDec 21 15:54
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schestowitzzoobab_: how would you title it?Dec 21 16:07
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schestowitzI bundles together several issuesDec 21 16:07
schestowitz*dledDec 21 16:07
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] A: "!Emacs is a wonderful OS . All it lacks is a decent text editor." B: "What do you mean by that? You can run Vi in Emacs." (sdot comment)Dec 21 16:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Successor May Leave, #SteveBallmer Expected to be Kicked Out Too http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/21/ray-ozzie-rumors/Dec 21 16:19
phIRCe-localTitle: Gates Successor May Leave, Steve Ballmer Expected to be Kicked Out Too | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 111.9 KBDec 21 16:19
ender2070http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/12/21/142228/Androids-Success-a-Threat-To-Free-SoftwareDec 21 16:23
phIRCe-localTitle: Slashdot Linux Story | Android's Success a Threat To Free Software? .::. Size~: 149.47 KBDec 21 16:23
schestowitzWho wrote this?Dec 21 16:23
schestowitzI can't use a Web browser ATM?Dec 21 16:23
ender2070Glyn Moody submitted itDec 21 16:23
schestowitzHmmmm...Dec 21 16:23
schestowitzI'll watch it later then, I follow glyn and he follows meDec 21 16:23
ender2070http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/success-googles-android-threat-free-softwareDec 21 16:23
phIRCe-localTitle: Is the Success of Google's Android a Threat to Free Software? | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 48.62 KBDec 21 16:23
ender2070he linked to to Linux JournalDec 21 16:24
ender2070ah he wrote the article too it seemsDec 21 16:24
schestowitzHe's right basicallyDec 21 16:33
schestowitzThe argument he makes would mean "Free" as in "libre"Dec 21 16:33
schestowitzWIthout reading it.....Dec 21 16:33
schestowitzHe wrote about this beforeDec 21 16:33
ender2070i've submitted my latest article to slashdotDec 21 16:34
schestowitzI just thought it could be an anti-Linux piece from one of the shills who pretend that "Free" means "cheapo" and "Google is the enemy of Linux, so Linux users, please hate Google!!!"Dec 21 16:34
schestowitzPlaying them off against one another...Dec 21 16:34
ender2070heheDec 21 16:34
schestowitzEnderle used this tactic when Chrome OS was announcedDec 21 16:34
ender2070Enderle is an assholeDec 21 16:35
ender2070imoDec 21 16:35
ender2070http://slashdot.org/submission/1137980/Corporate-Funding-FSF-vs-GNOMEDec 21 16:38
phIRCe-localTitle: Slashdot Submission | Corporate Funding FSF vs GNOME .::. Size~: 48.33 KBDec 21 16:38
ender2070i dunno if you can see it or notDec 21 16:38
schestowitzwhat's the meaning of your nick?Dec 21 16:38
ender2070b - brandonDec 21 16:38
*schestowitz sods off to make Yorkshire tea..Dec 21 16:38
ender2070l - lozzaDec 21 16:38
ender20702070, the year ender was born in Ender's GameDec 21 16:38
MinceR"Brandon Lozza Ender" == BLEnder? :>Dec 21 16:39
schestowitzI'm out of touch with some popular culture I see...Dec 21 16:39
schestowitz!google ender gameDec 21 16:39
phIRCe-local[1] - Ender's Game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_GameDec 21 16:39
phIRCe-local[2] - Amazon.com: Ender's Game (Ender, Book 1) (9780812550702): Orson ... | http://www.amazon.com/Enders-Game-Ender-Book-1/dp/0812550706Dec 21 16:39
phIRCe-local[3] - Ender's Game | http://www.ender.com/ender/Dec 21 16:39
phIRCe-local[4] - SparkNotes: Ender's Game | http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/endersgame/Dec 21 16:39
ender2070nah my nick is based on a character from my favorite series of booksDec 21 16:39
schestowitzI thought it was a Enderle mockery some months backDec 21 16:40
ender2070LOLDec 21 16:40
schestowitzUntil a while back..Dec 21 16:40
ender2070I remember, almost wanted to change my nick.Dec 21 16:40
ender2070its a sci-fi series, very awesomeDec 21 16:40
schestowitzYeah, I know...Dec 21 16:41
schestowitzWell, Godwin's law makes it verboten to compare people to a moustached manDec 21 16:41
ender2070i don't think anyone has realized that the advisory board are lobbyistsDec 21 16:42
ender2070it wouldn't occur to anyone, an oss projectDec 21 16:42
schestowitzPeople did knowDec 21 16:43
ender2070as i've learned, if there is resistance change the name and try againDec 21 16:43
schestowitzIt just wasn't put this wayDec 21 16:43
schestowitzSometimes you need to unpsin thingsDec 21 16:43
ender2070yes exactlyDec 21 16:43
schestowitzInto terms they understand betterDec 21 16:43
ender2070take for example tpmDec 21 16:43
ender2070it has had a name change or twoDec 21 16:44
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] This is a nice theme for !drupal but needs some fixes for ie6 any one got some time? http://drupal.org/node/413928Dec 21 16:44
schestowitz"Gates donates for African farmers" -> "gates imposes patents of a monopoly on African farmers, for profit"Dec 21 16:44
phIRCe-localTitle: Why does all my content drop below sidebar last? | drupal.org .::. Size~: 53.21 KBDec 21 16:44
schestowitz"Microsoft donates WIndows" -> "Microsoft blocks Linux adoption"Dec 21 16:44
schestowitzOrwell wrote nice things about it allDec 21 16:44
ender2070im an orwell fanDec 21 16:44
schestowitzIIRC, if thought can corrupt language, then language can corrupt thoughtDec 21 16:45
ender2070yesDec 21 16:45
schestowitzRemember that the US invaded Iraq to defend against another 9/11Dec 21 16:45
ender2070another old lesson, if you can't destroy something you co-op itDec 21 16:45
schestowitzNot for oil and dominationDec 21 16:45
ender2070yeah but thats what they gotDec 21 16:46
schestowitzHitler told his people he protected them from the BolsheviksDec 21 16:46
schestowitzHe invaded countries like Poland with pretexts and "Security"Dec 21 16:46
ender2070fox news spins it now, "well you didn't really want Saddam there killing innocent people do you?"Dec 21 16:46
schestowitzPeople don't learn fromm historyDec 21 16:46
schestowitzSame with US in south AmercaDec 21 16:46
ender2070yeahDec 21 16:46
schestowitzLeaders NEVER EVER sell a war by saying "let's expand and blow the s* out of people to get richer"Dec 21 16:46
ender2070false flag operationsDec 21 16:47
schestowitzIt's built thisDec 21 16:47
schestowitzIt's built this wayDec 21 16:47
schestowitzMany euphemismDec 21 16:47
schestowitzLook at IDF.... Israeli defence forces... it seems to repress more than defendDec 21 16:47
schestowitzThen you have Homeland SecurityDec 21 16:48
schestowitzThey add "Security" by spying on peopleDec 21 16:48
schestowitzSecurity vs libertyDec 21 16:48
schestowitzCFR... *LOL*Dec 21 16:48
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ender2070they were caught trying this oneDec 21 16:49
schestowitzAlmost rhymes with "PR"Dec 21 16:49
ender2070http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incidentDec 21 16:49
phIRCe-localTitle: USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 182.89 KBDec 21 16:49
schestowitzCreated at a similar times tooDec 21 16:49
schestowitzSays what it's all for really...Dec 21 16:49
ender2070The USS Liberty was being attacked, in an attempt to get America into the Six-Day WarDec 21 16:51
ender2070the russians showed up and they had to stopDec 21 16:51
ender2070i dont see that in the wikipedia thoughDec 21 16:53
ender2070I saw that mentioned in Alex Jones "Terror Storm"Dec 21 16:53
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #NVIDIA - #Linux Progress This Year http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_2009_ayir&num=1Dec 21 16:53
phIRCe-localTitle: [Phoronix] NVIDIA Linux 2009 Year In Review .::. Size~: 22.07 KBDec 21 16:53
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Gives Christmas Present: #digiKam 1.0.0 http://www.digikam.org/node/491Dec 21 16:54
phIRCe-localTitle: Merry Christmas : digiKam 1.0.0 is there... | digiKam - Photo Management Program .::. Size~: 57.34 KBDec 21 16:54
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many New Releases of GNU/Linux: #Sabayon, #Parsix and More http://wgo.wolf911.us/?p=302 http://ur1.ca/ibjpDec 21 16:56
phIRCe-localTitle: Sabayon Linux CoreCD 5.1 x86/x86-64 Released .::. Size~: 44.03 KBDec 21 16:56
phIRCe-localTitle: Parsix GNU/Linux 3.0r1 `Kev` has been released :: Parsix GNU/Linux :: A Gift From Ancient Persia .::. Size~: 17.32 KBDec 21 16:56
ender2070lolDec 21 16:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE 4.4 (Beta) Enter #Mandriva #Cooker http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/wordpress/mandriva/noteworthy-changes-30-november-20-december-2009.htmlDec 21 16:57
ender2070I had no idea slashdot had achievementsDec 21 16:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat to Report Results, #Fedora Works Great http://ur1.ca/ibju http://ur1.ca/ibjvDec 21 16:59
phIRCe-localTitle: Week Ahead: Oil, Retail, Housing Ahead of Christmas - FOXBusiness.com .::. Size~: 85.73 KBDec 21 16:59
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Weekly #Newsletter for This Week is Out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue173Dec 21 17:01
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux -powered #Nokia #N900 Reviewed by SoftPedia http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nokia-N900-Review-130197.shtmlDec 21 17:01
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phIRCe-localTitle: UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue173 - Ubuntu Wiki .::. Size~: 81.73 KBDec 21 17:01
phIRCe-localTitle: Nokia N900 Review - Maemo 5 - the new OS star - Softpedia .::. Size~: 152.28 KBDec 21 17:01
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Simulator Targets #Linux http://hackaday.com/2009/12/20/new-avr-simulator-for-linux/Dec 21 17:03
phIRCe-localTitle:   New AVR simulator for Linux  - Hack a Day   .::. Size~: 37.04 KBDec 21 17:03
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Tablets with #GNU #Linux May Have Impact Like #Subnotebooks http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_1397224Dec 21 17:04
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schestowitz /.?Dec 21 17:10
schestowitzAchievements?Dec 21 17:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Number of Things That #FreeSoftware Teaches http://trombonechamp.wordpress.com/2009/12/20/five-things-free-software-has-taught-me/Dec 21 17:12
phIRCe-localTitle: Five things Free Software has taught me « A High School Students Views on Software Freedom .::. Size~: 49.16 KBDec 21 17:12
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Research Done with #FreeSoftware , Blind People Rely on It http://ur1.ca/ibkh http://ur1.ca/ibkiDec 21 17:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Version of #WordPress is Released http://www.dailyworldbuzz.com/oh-great-another-wordpress-update-and-now-its-2-9/7375/Dec 21 17:18
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free/Libre CMS Makes Hardcore Fan http://buytaert.net/drupal-tattooDec 21 17:18
phIRCe-localTitle: Oh great, another Wordpress update and now its 2.9! | Daily World Buzz .::. Size~: 62.47 KBDec 21 17:18
phIRCe-localTitle: Drupal tattoo | Dries Buytaert .::. Size~: 12.95 KBDec 21 17:18
ender2070lolDec 21 17:19
ender2070wordpress is easy to updateDec 21 17:19
ender2070especially if you have FTP setupDec 21 17:19
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Free(dom) Software a #Licensing Rather Than Price Ideology http://ur1.ca/ibkoDec 21 17:19
phIRCe-localTitle: It's All About The License -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 96.82 KBDec 21 17:19
ender2070I click update in my dashboard, bamDec 21 17:19
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sarkozy Breaks the #Copyright Law http://ur1.ca/ibksDec 21 17:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Obama Still Appoints His Funders (Including MAFIAA Lawyers) http://ur1.ca/ibktDec 21 17:21
phIRCe-localTitle: Bryan Cave Partner Chosen for Commerce Post - The BLT: The Blog of Legal Times  .::. Size~: 62.37 KBDec 21 17:21
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Lawsuit Seeks Censorship Over Public Officials' Misconduct http://ur1.ca/ibkxDec 21 17:23
phIRCe-localTitle: Legal Blog Watch .::. Size~: 48.75 KBDec 21 17:23
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #USPTO Admits It Has Quality Issue http://ur1.ca/ibl4 #fail #monopoly #cartelDec 21 17:25
phIRCe-localTitle: Patent Law Blog (Patently-O): PTO Asks for Comments on Improving Patent Quality .::. Size~: 141.52 KBDec 21 17:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] All except one Xmess item bought. Thank you, intarweb. Thank you, Amazon.Dec 21 17:31
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] sincity actress is dead :( RD: @abbe: !RIP Brittany Murphy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Murphy#Death !WTF :'(Dec 21 17:34
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Have to leave early in the morning to my alma mater :)Dec 21 17:39
schestowitzender2070: yes, I have FTP setups on two installations of it, but in BN I need to do it manuallyDec 21 17:46
schestowitzI'm waiitng to see if there is a bugfix releaseDec 21 17:46
schestowitzThis update is not urgent (no security issues)Dec 21 17:46
cubezzzwhat's a good microphone?Dec 21 17:50
cubezzzI'm doing some GNU/Linux videos with voiceDec 21 17:50
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ender2070i have a nice logitech usb one that works perfectly even with pulseaudioDec 21 17:52
ender2070its an entire headset thoughDec 21 17:52
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schestowitzMine is a crappy oneDec 21 17:59
amd-linuxFresh browser stats - nothing spectacular, but a confirmation of the trend: Dec 21 18:00
amd-linuxhttp://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-weekly-200827-200951Dec 21 18:00
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schestowitzI'm not a fan of those stat firmsDec 21 18:01
schestowitzEach has its own IPsDec 21 18:01
amd-linuxFF 3.5 now in fornt of IE 7 and the leading browser worldwide if you count the several IEs as different brwosersDec 21 18:01
schestowitzAnd those IPs are not properly distributedDec 21 18:01
schestowitzSome are measuring ads, so mostly stupid users with IE and no JS/adblockDec 21 18:01
amd-linuxwell none of those stats are really representative that is trueDec 21 18:01
amd-linuxGoogle has some realistic numbersDec 21 18:02
schestowitzTrends may say somethingDec 21 18:02
schestowitzSometimes.Dec 21 18:02
amd-linuxbut they are not publishing themDec 21 18:02
schestowitzamd-linux: no, not even GoogleDec 21 18:02
schestowitzGoogle would miss Baidu usersDec 21 18:02
schestowitzAnd other niches...Dec 21 18:02
amd-linuxtrue, Asia....Dec 21 18:02
schestowitzGoogle would see more Linux users because none uses Yahoo!, MS, or anything else like AOL portalsDec 21 18:02
amd-linuxbut for Western countries, Google might paint a realistic pic, dont forget Google AnalyticsDec 21 18:03
schestowitzLet's focus on stories and not some stupid graphsDec 21 18:03
schestowitzI've seen people lying with graphsDec 21 18:03
schestowitzGiven a goal you can produce a 'study' to fir itDec 21 18:03
amd-linuxLet's see if Ballmer sees end of yr as MS CEO...Dec 21 18:03
schestowitzGartner, IDC and other such crooks do exactly thatDec 21 18:03
*amarsh04 blocks google-analytics.comDec 21 18:03
schestowitzamarsh04: yes, it's a worm that runs in Linux tooDec 21 18:04
schestowitzIt's "cross platform" and omnipresentDec 21 18:04
amd-linuxI am still disappointed that they didnt swallow YahooDec 21 18:04
amd-linuxMS would be in deep water now if they had doneDec 21 18:04
schestowitzThey did sort ofDec 21 18:04
schestowitzJust for cheaperDec 21 18:04
amd-linuxno I mean as a cash purchase for this several billions (25?)Dec 21 18:05
schestowitzamd-linux: Microsoft had 20 mil in the bank in Feb 2008Dec 21 18:05
schestowitzmil->bilDec 21 18:05
schestowitzIt would need to borrow 22bil just to buy Yahoo, IIRCDec 21 18:05
schestowitzGoogle would have bought Yahoo!Dec 21 18:05
schestowitzYang didn't give itDec 21 18:05
schestowitzThey raised the ante almost to $50bn at one stageDec 21 18:06
amd-linuxif they had bought them they would be short on cash now and had to write off  Yahoo (good will) in good parts....Dec 21 18:06
schestowitzAssumijng the reports were very correct and Microsoft was not bluffingDec 21 18:06
schestowitzBallmer's jealousy of Schmidt is  preying on his mindDec 21 18:06
amd-linuximagine, just weeks before the financial crisis.... Dec 21 18:06
schestowitzSo he is willing to go into big debt just to beat his boogeymanDec 21 18:06
schestowitzI worried about Microsoft takeover cause of my Geocieties pageDec 21 18:07
schestowitzWhich is gone anyway now (yahoo! killed em all)Dec 21 18:07
schestowitzAnd because of search choiceDec 21 18:07
schestowitzBut Microsoft killed that tooDec 21 18:07
schestowitzYahoo! search will dueDec 21 18:08
schestowitz*die in due timeDec 21 18:08
amd-linuxI backuped my Geoctities home page.... a tombstone for the 90s :-) I abandoned it yrs ago....Dec 21 18:09
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Omar87Hello, everyone! :)Dec 21 18:15
Omar87schestowitz: Guess what?Dec 21 18:15
Omar87schestowitz: There's a very big chance that we'll have a conference with Jacob Appelbaum -from the Tor project- in Amman this Thursday. :-)Dec 21 18:16
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cubezzzweird how china is 95% IE according to this sourceDec 21 18:48
cubezzzFF popular in Poland and Finland, no surprise thereDec 21 18:48
cubezzzFF is on the way up thoughDec 21 18:51
cubezzzgeocities wasn't very goodDec 21 18:54
cubezzzwho are you using for hosting now schestowitz, or do you self-host?Dec 21 18:55
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Omar87schestowitz: According to your post about MS investors starting to feel angry:Dec 21 18:57
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Omar87schestowitz:Dec 21 18:58
Omar87Q: How do you know that a corporation is getting screwed?Dec 21 18:58
Omar87A: When investors start hurling the shoes at it.Dec 21 18:58
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] scientology comics: http://adambjornson.com/scientude/Dec 21 19:06
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] 2.3 to get from Uxbridge to Farnbro'.Crap traffic, weather fine. http://bit.ly/5xIHPp Break for tea, then on to see @ciemon to podcast.Dec 21 19:07
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Omar87sebsebseb: heyDec 21 19:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle Likely to Own #MySQL Shortly, #EuropeanCommission ’s Credibility at Stake http://ur1.ca/ibrgDec 21 19:22
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MinceRhttp://apina.biz/24173.jpegDec 21 19:32
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Don't you love people who jump into a conversation feet first? @jaredhallows is an excellent example, if only they had read my views first.Dec 21 19:34
Omar87I tried to look up the Plone documentation for tips about how to create smart folders, but I couldn't find something that works. Any help please?Dec 21 19:35
Omar87ahh.. sorryDec 21 19:38
Omar87by mistakeDec 21 19:38
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Long article about the Central Patent Court and the Council of European Ministers: http://i5.be/5qDec 21 19:48
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Crimes Emit Another $4,415,258 in #Arizona , Amid Newer Crimes http://ur1.ca/ibtiDec 21 19:53
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] Sudden 6 G's is bad for your neck and causes inspection plates to pop off. If you find one in/around San Vicente I'd like it back. Thanks.Dec 21 19:55
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Swedish Patent Trolls were meeting in Stockholm, slides online, we need ACTA to send Microsoft and Linus to jail: http://i5.be/VUDec 21 20:21
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schestowitz[18:16] <Omar87> schestowitz: There's a very big chance that we'll have a conference with Jacob Appelbaum -from the Tor project- in Amman this Thursday. :-)Dec 21 20:23
schestowitzCool!Dec 21 20:23
schestowitz[18:55] <cubezzz> who are you using for hosting now schestowitz, or do you self-host?Dec 21 20:24
schestowitztessier is our generous hostDec 21 20:24
schestowitzHe stepped in after we got DDOSed for daysDec 21 20:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Someone has just shared this one w/ me.. http://apina.biz/24173.jpeg good chuckles!Dec 21 20:26
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Announces More SPAM and #Bribery Tactics http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/21/microsoft-bad-marketing-strategy/Dec 21 20:33
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Omar87schestowitz: What do you think of my quote? :DDec 21 20:36
Omar87schestowitz: <Omar87> Q: How do you know that a corporation is getting screwed?Dec 21 20:38
Omar87schestowitz: <Omar87> A: When investors start hurling the shoes at it.Dec 21 20:38
tessierOmar87: smart folders are coolDec 21 20:48
tessierOmar87: Did you figure them out?Dec 21 20:48
tessierOmar87: I am in the process of dumping plone for django thoughDec 21 20:49
Omar87tessier: why?Dec 21 20:52
Omar87tessier: Plone 3.2 is awesome!Dec 21 20:52
tessierPlone is just too complicated and over-engineered for actually developing custom web apps in.Dec 21 20:52
tessierIt looks pretty and gets a lot of functionality out of the box but as soon as you want to do something custom you are in for years of study.Dec 21 20:52
tessierI am less impressed with zodb than I used to be also.Dec 21 20:52
Omar87tessier: yeah, I agree with you on that. :)Dec 21 20:53
tessierkernel-panic.org requires repacking every few days because something is generating gigs and gigs of data in zodb and I can't figure out why.Dec 21 20:53
Omar87tessier: I see.Dec 21 20:53
tessierPlone has always been slow for me also. I have even paid a well known plone expert to help debug it and he couldn't.Dec 21 20:53
tessierI've used it since 2004. But I have reached the end of my patience with it.Dec 21 20:53
Omar87tessier: lol!Dec 21 20:53
tessierI own 6 Plone books.Dec 21 20:53
Omar87tessier: but it seems to be getting better now, I dunno.Dec 21 20:54
tessierDjango requires more custom development to get you to the level of functionality of the stuff you need from Plone but at least it can be done.Dec 21 20:54
tessierUpgrading Plone has always been a dreaded nightmare also.Dec 21 20:54
Omar87tessier: Plone 3.2 and 3.3 and soon in Jan. 4.4 are really good.Dec 21 20:54
tessierSeveral times the Products I was using were not supported by the author so I couldn't upgrade until I figured out how to dump them.Dec 21 20:54
tessierAnd Quills blog has been a disaster. :( I hardly ever update my blog anymore because it is such a pain.Dec 21 20:55
tessierI need to get my personal site moved over to django. Been saying that for months.Dec 21 20:55
Omar87tessier: Yeah, Quills sucks.Dec 21 20:55
tessierOmar87: What's better? Not much it seems.Dec 21 20:55
tessierOh, and storing my photo gallery in Plone has been a nightmare.Dec 21 20:55
tessierIt makes the ZODB HUGE.Dec 21 20:55
Omar87tessier: umm, as for now, I'm using collective.blogging, it's not so bad.Dec 21 20:56
tessierYes, there are filesystem storage products. I have never  once been able to get them to work.Dec 21 20:56
tessierI am just not smart enough to use Plone.Dec 21 20:56
Omar87tessier: you have just given me enough reasons to hate Plone. :DDec 21 20:56
tessierI used to be a huge Plone advocate. Now I feel foolish. :(Dec 21 20:56
tessierPlone has good marketing.Dec 21 20:57
tessierAnd it does look slick out of the box. I think that is what got me.Dec 21 20:57
tessierI am going to move to Django and pay some web developer a few bucks to help me with a custom theme.Dec 21 20:57
Omar87tessier: btw, you don't have to use ZODB. Plone can be easily to plugged to a MySQL database and an Apache server. Dec 21 20:58
tessierOmar87: Not exactly.Dec 21 20:58
Omar87tessier: how so?Dec 21 20:58
tessierOmar87: You can plug Plone into mysql for serving up your own custom content types but they have to be designed to use MySQL.Dec 21 20:58
tessierQuills, user auth, permissions, tons of stuff are ZODB only.Dec 21 20:58
tessierYou will never get away from ZODB with Plone.Dec 21 20:59
Omar87tessier: I see.Dec 21 20:59
tessierSo them you have two headaches to worry about: ZODB *and* MySQL.Dec 21 20:59
tessierI understand MySQL a lot better and know how to scale it (more or less). So that's where I am heading.Dec 21 20:59
Omar87tessier: Cool! :)Dec 21 20:59
tessierI have learned a lot about the benefits and shortcomings of both object and relational databases in the last couple years.Dec 21 20:59
Omar87tessier: Django is amazing too. I used to work on it for some time. But now I'm kinda going with Plone from the time being. But I go back to Django soon.Dec 21 21:01
tessierI have decided I like django templates better also.Dec 21 21:01
Omar87I *might* go back to Django..Dec 21 21:01
tessierI never understood ZPT. Way too complicated. At first I bought the line about ZPT being XML so web developers could work with it easier etc.Dec 21 21:01
Omar87tessier: Django is much simpler.Dec 21 21:02
tessierBut the complexity involved is just not work it. I understood passing contexts into a django template much more quickly.Dec 21 21:02
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Omar87tessier: yeah, even theming for Plone seems too much complicated.Dec 21 21:04
tessierArcheTypes sounds cool at first. But then I looked into ArchGenXML and ArgoUML or whatever to generate them and tried to do it like Sean Kelly does in "Getting Your Feet Wet with Plone"Dec 21 21:04
tessierInstant fail.Dec 21 21:04
Omar87tessier: can you imagine I still fail to find the locations of the HTML files in the ZMI?Dec 21 21:04
tessierAlthough the movies at http://plone.org/documentation/movies/ are super slick and make Plone look very goodDec 21 21:04
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tessierOmar87: ZMI is another problem. I can never remember where anything is in there. It's a huge maze.Dec 21 21:04
tessierPeople have done product development entirely in the ZMI and stored their templates and code and everything in the ZMI.Dec 21 21:05
Omar87tessier: nah, this ain't hard for me. But what I still fail to find are the HTML files.Dec 21 21:05
tessierThere is no easy way to transition from ZMI based development to filesystem base development.Dec 21 21:05
tessierYou need tons of boiletplate code.Dec 21 21:05
tessierZMI development was a bad idea from the start. Can't version control or use traditional file management/editing tools on it etc.Dec 21 21:06
Omar87tessier: I don't think Drupal is half as complicated as Plone.Dec 21 21:06
tessierDrupal is PHP. :(Dec 21 21:06
tessierPHP is a disaster of an entirely different sort.Dec 21 21:06
Omar87tessier: I know.Dec 21 21:06
tessierBut yes, it is easier.Dec 21 21:07
tessierIf I had to choose between Drupal and Plone I would be very unhappy.Dec 21 21:07
tessierAnd you know who turned me on to Django?Dec 21 21:07
Omar87tessier: both suck?Dec 21 21:07
tessierOne of the Plone developers! He even wrote books about Plone. Then he arrived at many of the same conclusions I did.Dec 21 21:07
Omar87tessier: Adrian Holovaty? :DDec 21 21:07
tessierNo. Andy McKay.Dec 21 21:07
Omar87tessier: Oh.Dec 21 21:07
Omar87tessier: Ya know?Dec 21 21:08
Omar87tessier: I might very well start building my website with Django, maybe tonight.Dec 21 21:09
tessierPractical Django Projects and Python Web Development with Django are awesome books.Dec 21 21:09
Omar87tessier: Even Webfaction is built in Django :-)Dec 21 21:10
tessierDjango has awesome documentation also.Dec 21 21:10
Omar87tessier: there's also a good book for Ayman Hourieh.Dec 21 21:10
Omar87tessier: A Syrian geek Pythonist who lives with his geek pythonist wife in Dublin. He's also a Google employee.Dec 21 21:11
Omar87tessier: agreed.Dec 21 21:11
Omar87tessier: however, what made me interested in Plone is that large companies like eBay and Nokia are using it.Dec 21 21:14
tessierYeah, NASA uses it too.Dec 21 21:15
Omar87tessier: yeah.Dec 21 21:15
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Donaldson declares "brave new world" of spare parts http://is.gd/5wxRdDec 21 21:15
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Omar87tessier: plus, I'm starting to feel Django's community is much more friendly and cooporative than Plone's.Dec 21 21:20
tessierOmar87: The Plone community hasn't been bad to me but  yes, Django's is at least as good if not better.Dec 21 21:25
Omar87tessier: no, they are not bad, but I just kinda feel they don't tolerate questions a lot sometimes. Dec 21 21:26
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks WikiLeaks has less than a month's operating budget left. Do you think that's right? http://bit.ly/savewl >>rhetorical questionDec 21 21:28
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Omar87tessier: here's the website I'm currently working on: www.mytomatosoup.net :-)Dec 21 21:30
tessierYep. Looks like all the other Plone sites except for a different domain. :)Dec 21 21:32
tessierThat is one criticism other people always had of plone: They all look alike.Dec 21 21:33
tessierI would always say that's just the default theme.Dec 21 21:33
tessierProblem is, creating a new theme is such a pain that hardly anyone does it.Dec 21 21:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wikileaks has only 1 month operating budget left. I just donated £50. You really really need to as well, for democracy. http://bit.ly/savewlDec 21 21:33
Omar87tessier: True.Dec 21 21:33
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Omar87tessier: Even extreme Plone geeks like Martin Aspeli are still using pre-installed Plone themes like Nu Plone.Dec 21 21:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] RT: @schestowitz: #Microsoft Announces More SPAM and Bribery Tactics http://bit.ly/4ony3tDec 21 21:37
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. Shower him with freebies and he'll shill for life" - Goblin Book of IT 1:1Dec 21 21:43
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Wikimedia blog: Wikileaks (no relation) is in trouble. http://is.gd/5wzou I gave @wikileaks £50. You do your bit for truth and democracy.Dec 21 21:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #GatesFoundation Extends Control Over Communication with #Oxfam Relationship http://ur1.ca/ic0cDec 21 21:45
phIRCe-localTitle: David Gerard  » Blog Archive   » Wikileaks is in trouble. .::. Size~: 11.93 KBDec 21 21:45
phIRCe-localTitle: The Gates Foundation Extends Control Over Communication with Oxfam Relationship | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 116.2 KBDec 21 21:45
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Do unto others as they do unto GNU" - Goblin Book of IT 1:2 .....yes before anyone asks, Ive got time on my hands.....Dec 21 21:46
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schestowitzDos the Gates Foundaton invest in companies that sell malaria drugs?Dec 21 21:47
schestowitzhttp://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2009/12/21/daily2.htmlDec 21 21:47
phIRCe-localTitle: Gates makes grant to Hebrew University - Puget Sound Business Journal (Seattle):  .::. Size~: 77.95 KBDec 21 21:47
schestowitzIt's worth finding out who owns the 'IP' of this research. It could be a company the foundation invests inDec 21 21:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard Wikimedia blog: Wikileaks (no relation) is in trouble. http://is.gd/5wzou I gave @wikileaks £50.Dec 21 21:51
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] UK goes for the "Patent Box" (10% imposition only on royalties), a recipe for fiscal evasion fueling the Google IE scandal: http://i5.be/5uDec 21 21:51
phIRCe-localTitle: David Gerard  » Blog Archive   » Wikileaks is in trouble. .::. Size~: 11.93 KBDec 21 21:51
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, I think Im going to have an early night....anyone else want to allege something about me before I go?Dec 21 21:52
_goblinRight....early night for me....Dec 21 21:52
_goblinFor the information of this channel Ive had a first tonight....Ive been called many things, some vulgar, some silly and some downright outragous....nothing though prepared me for being called an iPod fanboy........Dec 21 21:54
_goblinthis non-iPod owning fanboy is signing out......good night all...Dec 21 21:54
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Boycott Novell celebrates 8,500 Posts milestone!! http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/21/8500-posts/Dec 21 22:00
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right....def off to bed now......I wonder if the snow will prevent travel for me tomorrow? #uksnowDec 21 22:14
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DaemonFCI'm going to laugh if the final vote on the healthcare bill is a tie and needs the vice president to pass it :PDec 21 22:16
DaemonFCthis is already going to be a raw deal for everyone affected by itDec 21 22:17
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] \o/ Technology Win! I just called into my own podcast ( @uupc ) via the phone and gave my predictions for next year.Dec 21 22:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Technology prediction for 2010: a lot more things will be labelled "cloud", whatever that isDec 21 22:52
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Neon Challenges #IBM ’s #GNU #Linux #Mainframes , #EU Challenges IE Bundling http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/21/neon-news-microsoft-mono/Dec 21 23:01
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Want this game for Android and for Ubuntu. Please someone, make it happen! :) http://bit.ly/7lTTn5 #fbDec 21 23:09
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DaemonFChmmm, they're going over an antique gas pump on Pawn StarsDec 21 23:30
DaemonFCthe machine is from the 1930s and won't let you go over $9.99 :PDec 21 23:30
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google and #Microsoft Fight Over Data and Contracts http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/21/people-digital-profiles-mail/Dec 21 23:47
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phIRCe-localTitle: Facebook uses 30,000 servers due to its use of PHP. If Facebook used C++ instead, then 7,500 servers would be enough (and 22,500 could be turned off, which would be really good for environment). Facebook is just an example among many others using PHP. : geek .::. Size~: 44.35 KBDec 21 23:57

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