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schestowitzImagine if Earth was less hot inside.... we could make it like the pyramids and make deep underground cities, bar the oxygen- and gravity-imposed limitationsDec 25 00:03
schestowitz!google china underground cityDec 25 00:03
phIRCe-local[1] - Beijing's Underground City | http://www.china.org.cn/english/travel/125961.htmDec 25 00:03
phIRCe-local[2] - The Underground City | http://www.china.org.cn/english/features/beijing/30836.htmDec 25 00:03
phIRCe-local[3] - Underground city - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_cityDec 25 00:03
phIRCe-local[4] - HowStuffWorks "Why is there an underground city beneath Beijing?" | http://geography.howstuffworks.com/asia/beijing-underground-city.htmDec 25 00:03
schestowitzI was once there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_City,_MontrealDec 25 00:04
phIRCe-localTitle: Underground City, Montreal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 112.78 KBDec 25 00:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] is "HO HO HO!" a loud threesome with three hookers? ;)Dec 25 00:05
sebsebsebschestowitz and others here that are in the Christmas time zones,  Merry Christmas!Dec 25 00:09
schestowitz"Reporters are calling me for reactions and opinions, but I just don't know. Schmidt is good, but I don't know if anyone can do well in a job with lots of responsibility but no actual authority. " http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/howard_schmidt_1.htmlDec 25 00:11
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cubezzz5 hours to go hereDec 25 00:12
cubezzzprobably already Christmas in the UKDec 25 00:12
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schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stallman "Stallman chooses not to celebrate Christmas, instead celebrating on December 25 a holiday of his own invention, "Grav-mass". The name and date are references to Isaac Newton, whose birthday falls on that day.[65]"Dec 25 00:19
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schestowitzWeird that the Wikipedia entry is just "Stallman"Dec 25 00:20
MinceRwell, he's The Stallman.Dec 25 00:21
MinceRactually that's just a redirectDec 25 00:22
MinceRto Richard StallmanDec 25 00:22
schestowitzDoes he work at the stall?Dec 25 00:22
MinceRask him :)Dec 25 00:22
schestowitzhttp://uk.dvd.ign.com/dor/objects/777482/seinfeld---season-5/videos/seinfeld_thestall.html;jsessionid=6ugepp0scbkh2Dec 25 00:22
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schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/jonathanamos/Dec 25 00:23
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schestowitzHP camera 'can't see' black faces http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8429634.stmDec 25 00:26
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schestowitzI guess they only test it on one population typeDec 25 00:27
schestowitzEye detection would be hardDec 25 00:27
schestowitzAlso feature detection like lipsDec 25 00:28
schestowitzI've done face recognition here in research, so obviously it's not some racism from HP. I'm surprised the Beeb makes a story out of itDec 25 00:28
MinceRmaybe they photoshopped the black colleagues into white onesDec 25 00:28
MinceR:>Dec 25 00:28
schestowitzNaaa.Dec 25 00:28
schestowitzOnly MS would do thatDec 25 00:28
schestowitzS.F. May Require Warnings About Cellphone Radiation http://bayarea.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/sf-may-require-warnings-about-cellphone-radiation/Dec 25 00:32
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schestowitzSo the world wakes up a bit after allDec 25 00:32
schestowitzSecond state in a weekDec 25 00:32
MinceRi don't know whom to believeDec 25 00:33
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_goblinIm back!Dec 25 00:41
_goblinYoungest wouldn't settle!Dec 25 00:41
_goblinsods law....pushing him back up the hill and he falls asleep.Dec 25 00:42
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Got let out early (from Church) youngest wouldn't settle.. I suppose I should be doing something far more constructive right now.Dec 25 00:44
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So now what to do? Get the littleun in his cot and watch a little TV and the real world for a while...until the rest of the family get backDec 25 00:46
schestowitzDark side...... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzgzOADec 25 00:47
phIRCe-localTitle: [Phoronix] Ciao, Off On A Sabbatical With Windows .::. Size~: 19.73 KBDec 25 00:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin mono panic?Dec 25 00:48
schestowitzhttp://www.nature.com/news/2009/091216/full/462836a.htmlDec 25 00:57
phIRCe-localTitle: Access : Modellers claim wars are predictable : Nature News .::. Size~: 70.43 KBDec 25 00:57
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Think so or he had visions of his favourite site (Happy Monster Band) only being available with Silverlight/Moonlight.Dec 25 00:59
schestowitzhttp://blog.iharder.net/2009/09/28/itunes-stream-itunes-over-ssh/Dec 25 01:01
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/opinions/outlook/worst-ideas/prosperity-gospel.htmlDec 25 01:01
phIRCe-localTitle: Robert Harder » Stream iTunes over SSH .::. Size~: 20.96 KBDec 25 01:01
phIRCe-localTitle: The Worst Ideas of the Decade (washingtonpost.com) .::. Size~: 13.98 KBDec 25 01:01
schestowitzECT is reposting old junk... http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Choosing-Your-Desktop-Linux-Distro-Wisely-68944.html (Choosing Your Desktop Linux Distro Wisely)Dec 25 01:13
phIRCe-localTitle: Linux News: Best of ECT News: Choosing Your Desktop Linux Distro Wisely .::. Size~: 61.59 KBDec 25 01:13
schestowitzMinceR: http://consumerist.com/2009/12/consumer-reports-tests-racist-hp-webcam.htmlDec 25 01:26
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schestowitzHmmm... http://arebentisch.wordpress.com/2009/12/24/uk-reasons-to-leave-the-eu/Dec 25 01:53
phIRCe-localTitle: UK reasons to leave the EU? «  Sköne Oke .::. Size~: 16.07 KBDec 25 01:53
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/24/nominet_taylor/Dec 25 01:58
phIRCe-localTitle: Nominet legal boss quits • The Register .::. Size~: 24.19 KBDec 25 01:58
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Santa's little secret http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/24/santa_stick_up/ So this is where gifts come from... :-)Dec 25 02:00
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Indian Copyright Amendments Procure Cabinet Approval http://bit.ly/8tmCX5Dec 25 02:30
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cubezzzhttp://progfree.org/Patents/patents.html#EolasDec 25 02:36
phIRCe-localTitle: League for Programming Freedom (LPF): Software Patents .::. Size~: 49.97 KBDec 25 02:37
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] enjoying some time off back home...Dec 25 02:54
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DaemonFCa friend of mine's parents just got rippedDec 25 05:52
DaemonFC$600 for an Athlon64 X2 6000+, 4 GB of DDR2, integrated RadeonHD 3000 series, a 500 GB hard disk, and Windows 7 Home PremiumDec 25 05:53
DaemonFCdidn't even get a monitor thrown inDec 25 05:53
DaemonFCthat system is worth about $300Dec 25 05:53
DaemonFCpeople never learnDec 25 05:54
DaemonFCI only paid a little over 25% more than they did and got a system thats several times fasterDec 25 05:55
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Kids unwrapped their stocking presents. Now time for champagne breakfast and the day begins. #merrychristmas #fbDec 25 07:36
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] 1st White Christmas in many years here. I wonder how many bookies are paying out.Dec 25 08:53
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DaemonFChttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2695345719525358211&ei=4Yc0S_WROaieqAKX1Pw8Dec 25 09:46
phIRCe-localTitle: Seether - Truth .::. Size~: 100.03 KBDec 25 09:46
DaemonFCheh, there's a music video for ChristmasDec 25 09:46
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Can't stop fondling the rubberized cover for my HTC heroDec 25 10:00
oiaohmhttp://www.openchange.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=63&Itemid=71#3  Another step to removing MS need in server room done.Dec 25 10:09
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DaemonFCheh, the cracks for Windows 7 are being written in .Net nowDec 25 10:16
DaemonFCYou have thousands of idiots that got burned on Microsoft Visual Basic running back asking Microsoft to hurt them again and put some stank on it this time. (.NET)Dec 25 10:26
oiaohmAnd with the same claims DaemonFCDec 25 10:27
DaemonFCAt least C and C++ are portable without depending on two companies for runtimesDec 25 10:29
DaemonFCyou know that if Microsoft ever kills off .NET, that Novell is not going to maintain MonoDec 25 10:29
oiaohmMore you watch one day Mono will be MS .netDec 25 10:30
oiaohmmonodevelop removing  lgpl great example.  Extention to licence was a option avoiding the issues.Dec 25 10:30
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cyberarchUpgrade to ZENworks 10 Configuration Management and deploy and manage Windows 7 with confidence. ? Novell is selling products with Windows 7?Dec 25 10:32
cyberarchpromoting etc..Dec 25 10:32
DaemonFCyeah, remember when Ballmer said at that joint meeting that they were still competing with NovellDec 25 10:35
DaemonFCnow they're cross-selling SLES/SLED and Windows 7/Server 2008Dec 25 10:35
DaemonFCI did notice that XP Pro x64 supports two quad core processorsDec 25 10:37
DaemonFCthat kind of made me giggleDec 25 10:37
oiaohmSupport does not mean runs well.Dec 25 10:37
DaemonFCI really hate all this bloat thoughDec 25 10:37
oiaohmLinux is still trying to get issues out of runnign with 16000+ coresDec 25 10:38
DaemonFCWindows 7 is 20 times bigger than Windows 2000Dec 25 10:38
DaemonFCand it does the same thngsDec 25 10:38
cyberarchyeah, but how they compete which each other if they sell each others products?! anyway Windows has a huge market share and Novell is promoting it more Dec 25 10:38
DaemonFCyeah, Novell is hoping that they can latch on and eat whatever crumbs Microsoft throws itDec 25 10:39
oiaohmNovell is a slow dieing company.Dec 25 10:39
oiaohmOnly department that has been doing well is there Linux department.Dec 25 10:39
oiaohmAnd they are neglecting that.Dec 25 10:39
cyberarchthey will receive about $300 mil or more from this dealDec 25 10:39
oiaohmcyberarch: loaf of bread vs teaching someone how to make bread.Dec 25 10:40
DaemonFCI'm more afraid of the damage Ubuntu will do to the credibility of LinuxDec 25 10:40
DaemonFCimplementing Mono, Banshee, F-Spot, and several others in the base install with 10.04Dec 25 10:40
DaemonFCyou might as well use OpenSuseDec 25 10:40
oiaohmThe damage will be temporay DaemonFCDec 25 10:42
oiaohmUbuntu is mostly a leach.Dec 25 10:42
oiaohmVery little development of it own.Dec 25 10:42
DaemonFCwell, if Novell goes under, they won't have much of a choiceDec 25 10:45
Diablo-D3http://slashdot.org/story/09/12/24/1340218/All-GPLed-Code-Removed-From-MonoDevelop?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29&utm_content=Google+ReaderDec 25 10:45
phIRCe-localTitle: Slashdot Story | All GPLed Code Removed From MonoDevelop .::. Size~: 176.44 KBDec 25 10:45
DaemonFCI don't really see that many developers at Ubuntu, I think that would be out of their leagueDec 25 10:45
Diablo-D3just noticed its even hit thatDec 25 10:45
DaemonFCthey slap the whole thing together out of other peoples workDec 25 10:45
DaemonFCso what happened to dotGNU?Dec 25 10:47
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cyberarchyep MonoDevelop is now LGPLedDec 25 10:49
Ziggyfishmerry Christmas Dec 25 10:49
cyberarchmc ZiggyfishDec 25 10:49
ZiggyfishthankDec 25 10:50
Ziggyfishtoo much to drinkDec 25 10:51
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] So, if someone is a Macfag, does that mean they're a woman? http://ur1.ca/iin8 #appleDec 25 10:54
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Good morning cruel joy to the world. This morning it is Presentmas.Dec 25 10:57
cyberarchGrav-mass!Dec 25 10:58
cyberarchhttp://stallman.org/grav-mass.htmlDec 25 10:58
cyberarch:)Dec 25 10:58
cyberarchwhere can I see the financial report of Novell for 2009 ?Dec 25 11:02
Ziggyfishon the web Dec 25 11:03
cyberarchmdaDec 25 11:03
oiaohmOnce monodevelop losses GPL it could be its death nail.Dec 25 11:05
oiaohmMonodevelop directly lifts a lot of code from a project called sharpdevelopDec 25 11:07
oiaohmThat is LGPLDec 25 11:07
Ziggyfishjust Google it (the problem of drinking is I always speak the truth )Dec 25 11:07
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DaemonFChttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/GentooTen.pngDec 25 11:22
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DaemonFCyes, it does take about 10 years to compile itDec 25 11:22
DaemonFCat least they're honestDec 25 11:22
cyberarch:), 10 year's anniversary :>Dec 25 11:25
oiaohmThey do have a binary option these days DaemonFCDec 25 11:25
DaemonFCI can't imagine being bored enough to compile an entire operating system from source codeDec 25 11:26
oiaohmFor a few custom devices I have done it.Dec 25 11:26
DaemonFCOpenOffice will tie you up compiling it for a few days :PDec 25 11:26
oiaohmDepends on system.Dec 25 11:27
oiaohmtile64 chips to accelerate help alot DaemonFCDec 25 11:27
oiaohmNote chips.Dec 25 11:28
oiaohmOne of my pet systems has 3 of them.Dec 25 11:28
DaemonFCI'm probably going to take my laptop back to Windows XPDec 25 11:29
DaemonFCLinux has such abysmal support for the Radeon 200m that you're literally watching the screen repaint itself every time you scroll a webpage that has an embedded movie in it or something Dec 25 11:30
oiaohmLOLDec 25 11:30
cyberarchRADEON 9200 SE?Dec 25 11:30
oiaohmDon't put sp3 on it or the ATI drivers don't work right on Windows either DaemonFCDec 25 11:30
DaemonFCnope, it's a mobile Radon cyberarch Dec 25 11:31
DaemonFCATI used to support it jsut fine on LinuxDec 25 11:31
DaemonFCbut kicked it out of their catalyst driverDec 25 11:31
oiaohmATI has dropped support on all platforms for it DaemonFCDec 25 11:31
DaemonFCI guess I could strand myself on Ubuntu 8.04Dec 25 11:31
cyberarchoh.. I also have a Radeon200 series and only works with "radeon" driver but not outstanding performanceDec 25 11:31
DaemonFCoiaohm: Yeah, but Linux changes, Windows XP hasn'tDec 25 11:31
DaemonFCI can use the driver from 2005 on XPDec 25 11:31
oiaohmXP sp3 will screw up the old driver DaemonFCDec 25 11:32
DaemonFCdoubtfulDec 25 11:32
oiaohmIe you are screwed.Dec 25 11:32
DaemonFCSP3 wasn't an invasive service packDec 25 11:32
DaemonFCit was basically just a bundle of routine patchesDec 25 11:32
oiaohmcatalist control centre is shot by the patches.Dec 25 11:33
DaemonFCI also still have my copy of Window FLPDec 25 11:33
oiaohmAnd that leads to chaos video card settings.Dec 25 11:33
DaemonFC*WindowsDec 25 11:33
oiaohmIe they have shot it well desuDec 25 11:33
oiaohmopps DaemonFCDec 25 11:33
DaemonFCWindows FLP is basically a Software Assurance thingDec 25 11:33
oiaohmFunny enough Windows Vista and Windows 7 still work perfectly with it.Dec 25 11:33
DaemonFCXP stripped to the bonesDec 25 11:33
DaemonFCmeant for old Windows 98 boxes that couldn't handle XPDec 25 11:34
oiaohmYet I guess machine is too light for those.Dec 25 11:34
oiaohmI have a friend with same class moble radion why I know what works and what is hell DaemonFCDec 25 11:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Raghu_Dixit: I find it funny when musicians expect public to buy original CDs when most of them use pirated s/w to produce music!!!Dec 25 11:34
DaemonFCwell, my laptop fulyl supported Linux until ATI gave me a nice bg Fuck You out of the middle of nowhere, oiaohm Dec 25 11:35
oiaohmATI will not be update any drivers for that card DaemonFCDec 25 11:35
cyberarchati dropped support in their proprietary drivers for radeon200 in 2006Dec 25 11:35
oiaohmSo as they break you are on your own DaemonFCDec 25 11:35
Diablo-D3what card?Dec 25 11:35
Diablo-D3r200? Dec 25 11:35
DaemonFCnow it has like partial support through "radeon", like I can make Compiz work, but it can't play any games, and playing a video isn't acceleratedDec 25 11:36
oiaohmYep r200Dec 25 11:36
Diablo-D3the mesaland drivers already support all it's features 100%Dec 25 11:36
DaemonFCmakes the CPU heat up and the noisy fan kicks inDec 25 11:36
oiaohmThat complete seriesDec 25 11:36
cyberarchmy card (Radeon 9200SE)Dec 25 11:36
Diablo-D3as well as r100Dec 25 11:36
DaemonFCthe free software drivers are _USELESS_ on the Radeon 200mDec 25 11:36
oiaohmDoes not matter if you are windows mac or Linux you are now unsupported DaemonFCDec 25 11:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] playing with Mint 7 KDE on my netbookDec 25 11:36
Diablo-D3wrongDec 25 11:36
Diablo-D3linux 100% supports himDec 25 11:37
cyberarchyepDec 25 11:37
DaemonFCI'll just slap the ATI driver from Compaq back in thereDec 25 11:37
Diablo-D3in fact, the first driver to get KMS support was the r100/r200 driverDec 25 11:37
cyberarchglxinfo | grep rendererDec 25 11:37
DaemonFCDiablo-D3: Funny how it doesn't work thenDec 25 11:37
oiaohmI was meaning by closed source DaemonFCDec 25 11:37
DaemonFCor barely works anywayDec 25 11:37
oiaohmDarnDec 25 11:37
oiaohmr200 low level works DaemonFCDec 25 11:37
oiaohm3d support is lacking speed and optimisations.Dec 25 11:37
DaemonFCit works well enough to be a little faster than "vesa"Dec 25 11:38
DaemonFC:)Dec 25 11:38
Diablo-D3wrongDec 25 11:38
oiaohmThe idea of installing old drivers is not going to work.  Diablo-D3Dec 25 11:38
Diablo-D33D support is actually faster than the windows driverDec 25 11:38
oiaohmdarnDec 25 11:38
cyberarchI have the same experience as DaemonFCDec 25 11:38
Diablo-D3I used to own an r200Dec 25 11:38
DaemonFCwell, maybe you can come make it work because I have a 200m and it does not workDec 25 11:38
Diablo-D3this was this way like 4 years agoDec 25 11:38
Diablo-D3I never used fglrx on my r200. ever.Dec 25 11:38
DaemonFCthey say it works, I have the hardware and say their driver is worthlessDec 25 11:39
oiaohmYou will find unless you run old Linux or old windows the drivers or control software for drives will fail DaemonFCDec 25 11:39
cyberarchfglrx doesn't work on never X.org and kernel verionsDec 25 11:39
oiaohmAt some point.Dec 25 11:39
Diablo-D3cyberarch: wrongDec 25 11:39
Diablo-D3its working fine on 2.6.32 and 1.6.Dec 25 11:39
cyberarchfor this particular seriesDec 25 11:39
DaemonFCoiaohm: They dropped it from Catalyst on Windows ages agoDec 25 11:39
oiaohmYou will be forced back to Linux if you want to keep it running at some point DaemonFCDec 25 11:39
Diablo-D3yes, but DO NOT USE FGLRX ON R200Dec 25 11:39
Diablo-D3no one listens to me.Dec 25 11:40
cyberarch:)Dec 25 11:40
DaemonFCbut there's still a standalone driver just for it from CompaqDec 25 11:40
DaemonFCthat worksDec 25 11:40
oiaohmHave fun.Dec 25 11:40
DaemonFCoiaohm: In 2014 when Windows XP is EOL maybeDec 25 11:40
oiaohmIt works with sp3 but does not work after a few updates latter.Dec 25 11:40
oiaohmI know the compaq driver as well DaemonFCDec 25 11:40
DaemonFCI'll donate it to some Ethiopian schoolkid and he can deal with itDec 25 11:41
oiaohmYou are now coming head to head with the major issue with closed source drivers DaemonFCDec 25 11:41
DaemonFCoiaohm: With video cards, everyone would eventuallyDec 25 11:42
DaemonFCno matter what hardware I have, it's either too old or too new for the open source driverDec 25 11:42
DaemonFCand Linux changes too fast to put the old driver that does work back on itDec 25 11:42
oiaohm200m is not too old or too new.  It works just not optimsied yet.Dec 25 11:42
Diablo-D3oiaohm: you know whats funDec 25 11:43
oiaohmThe old driver does not work with modern day graphical envorments either on Linux DaemonFCDec 25 11:43
Diablo-D3Ive had DaemonFC on ignore for at least several monthsDec 25 11:43
Diablo-D3people really should follow my leadDec 25 11:43
DaemonFCif I bought a system with Windows XP on it in 2001, the drivers from 2001 would still work on it nowDec 25 11:43
DaemonFCthe drivers on Linux that were working in April of 2008 stopped working six months later when a new Ubuntu was outDec 25 11:44
oiaohmCase of ATI driver works control software for driver breaks so making driver unstable DaemonFCDec 25 11:44
oiaohmOn windows.Dec 25 11:44
oiaohmDaemonFC: Linux is doing a major video stack alteration.Dec 25 11:44
oiaohmHeck the worse wave comes with X.org 1.8 server coming.Dec 25 11:45
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oiaohmAll old style drivers no longer work including Nvidia closed source drivers.Dec 25 11:45
DaemonFCmy choices are to go dig up Ubuntu 8.04 which has about 4 months of support left on itDec 25 11:45
DaemonFCor go dig up Windows XP which has until the middle of 2014Dec 25 11:46
oiaohmWindows XP old version as well.Dec 25 11:46
oiaohmyour only options that currently still work with all patches installed is Vista or Windows 7 DaemonFCDec 25 11:46
oiaohmIf you are wanting to use the closed source drivers for it.Dec 25 11:46
oiaohmBut that is only a matter of time until those break as well.Dec 25 11:47
DaemonFCthis laptop buckles underneath the weight of VistaDec 25 11:47
DaemonFCthey sent me out Vista Basic as an Express Upgrade for it and it ran so slow I threw the Vista disc away and slapped XP back onDec 25 11:47
oiaohmLinux open source drivers will speed up DaemonFC.  But you have to have the tollerence to wait for it.Dec 25 11:48
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DaemonFCit was like, the load limit for the laptop's RAM and CPU was 50 pounds, XP weighs 20 and Vista weighs 200Dec 25 11:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] opened package from birth mother. SHE GAVE ME CHRISTIAN ROCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADec 25 11:48
oiaohmI know DaemonFCDec 25 11:49
oiaohmAs I said you are stuck in the trap of non mainatained drivers DaemonFCDec 25 11:49
DaemonFCyeah, I'm screwed no matter what I doDec 25 11:50
DaemonFCI can't put Vista on it, I won't pay to buy Windows 7 and see if that runsDec 25 11:50
DaemonFCLinux drivers suck or don't existDec 25 11:50
oiaohmAt least the open source drivers have some light at end of tunnel.Dec 25 11:50
DaemonFCand all that's left is go back to XPDec 25 11:50
oiaohmWhere installing windows 7 you would still be looking over shoulder waiting for it to fail.Dec 25 11:51
DaemonFCI've had better luck with 7 than any past version, it has good enough drivers that pretty much everything runsDec 25 11:52
DaemonFCXP doesn't even see your ethernet out of the boxDec 25 11:52
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oiaohmSimple problem here is that ATI no longer reparing any of the support programs with the drivers on windows DaemonFCDec 25 11:53
oiaohmSo if or when a update breaks them you are dead in water.Dec 25 11:53
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I gotta say, KDE 4.2 / Mint 7 is hella nice on the MSI WindDec 25 11:53
DaemonFCoiaohm: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-33855-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&os=228&product=1843791Dec 25 11:55
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oiaohmThat is the one I have already seen busted DaemonFCDec 25 11:56
oiaohmNotice the release date.  2005-08-19Dec 25 11:56
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DaemonFCyesDec 25 12:00
DaemonFCit's over 4 years oldDec 25 12:00
DaemonFCHP basically stops supporting your PC once you buy it :)Dec 25 12:00
oiaohmThere need to be a 2009 update.  Few of the secuirty patches took out a few paths ati was using.Dec 25 12:00
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oiaohmThat is intresting the version mesa is critical with the 200m  DaemonFCDec 25 12:02
oiaohmParticular versions cause it to be slow.Dec 25 12:03
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Geek brane damage in book form: the PDF of "Samizdat" by Ken Brown, AdTI. http://is.gd/5B2Gz NO WRONG WRONG YOU IDIOT WTF AAAAAAAADec 25 12:27
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: So how was your haul? http://rocknerd.co.uk/2009/12/25/so-how-was-your-haul/Dec 25 12:53
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MinceRhttp://qdb.us/300769Dec 25 13:10
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Listening to classic post-punk comp Earcom 1 from 1979! It's complete shit. #nostalgiaDec 25 13:39
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schestowitzGood news............:Dec 25 14:57
schestowitzFoxconn is creating its own GNU/Linux distro and will sell computers with it.Dec 25 14:57
schestowitzThere's also BadaDec 25 14:58
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn "Employees 550,000"Dec 25 14:58
phIRCe-localTitle: Foxconn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 67.06 KBDec 25 14:58
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin your 'mate' talks #ODF http://twitter.com/adacosta/statuses/6949159495Dec 25 15:10
phIRCe-localTitle: Twitter / adacosta: @HuntHenning or more like .ODF .::. Size~: 6.92 KBDec 25 15:10
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] why does firefox have weird font size settings, a size 10 everywhere else needs to be like 14 on firefox to be the same sizeDec 25 15:25
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] the Bing part at the end of #lo 128 is hilariousDec 25 17:11
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Church of Satan targets toddlers in recruitment drive http://is.gd/5Bff6Dec 25 17:19
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] UnNews: Actually funny joke found in Christmas cracker http://is.gd/5BfCF @webcowgirlDec 25 17:30
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Omar87HiDec 25 17:32
Omar87schestowitz: such an amazing meeting we had with J. Appelbaum last night! :DDec 25 17:33
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Listening to 3rd Xmal LP. Sadly crappy. MP3 is defective, will be returned for replacement, 'phones good but. Love @arkadyrose !Dec 25 17:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Oh, "Polarlicht" is pretty good. Would have been a decent second-album B-side.Dec 25 17:38
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Such an amazing meeting he had with J. Appelbaum yesterday. :-) Thanks a lot for the visit, @ioerror :DDec 25 17:41
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Freda is *transfixed* watching her new Charlie & Lola DVD on the 22" Cinema Display.Dec 25 18:54
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] 3 generations watching Dr Who. Love it. #fbDec 25 19:26
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_goblinmerry xmas all!Dec 25 19:52
_goblinwhat a day!Dec 25 19:52
_goblineverythings just settling down now!Dec 25 19:52
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Xmas day was mad...Loving all my presents! Currently wearing a "Smeg Head" T-Shirt!....maybe time for a new profile photo.Dec 25 19:59
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] A 100% accurate assessment of the Internet. http://www.27bslash6.com/bill.htmlDec 25 20:32
phIRCe-localTitle: are you chatting to your cybernaut friends again? .::. Size~: 18.49 KBDec 25 20:32
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schestowitzHey _goblinDec 25 21:02
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schestowitzMaybe I should resume some postings soon.Dec 25 21:17
schestowitz_goblin: xmas eve, no posts, over 7500 ips. Weird.Dec 25 21:26
_goblinHi Roy!Dec 25 21:28
_goblinI was hit for about 630 unique reads....slightly lower than average...but hey it was xmas eve!Dec 25 21:29
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Chrome 4.0.249.43 versus Chromium 4.0.282.0 interesting results so far, although Chromium still suffering the same bug I reported... #googleDec 25 21:39
schestowitz_goblin: that's very good. OpenBytes articles improve over time, justified by the followingDec 25 21:43
schestowitzIt was probably a lot more sloppy in the first few posts (I haven't looked)Dec 25 21:43
_goblinit was certainly more vagueDec 25 21:44
_goblinI mostly targeted software...Dec 25 21:44
_goblinand I would have given up the blog if I hadn't been attacked in the way I was.Dec 25 21:44
_goblinNow its a hobby....Dec 25 21:45
_goblinits interesting what my readers like......Dec 25 21:45
_goblinDistro reviews are the most popular...Dec 25 21:45
_goblinfollowed by calling someone out on dishonest posting.Dec 25 21:46
_goblinand the attempts to troll by our COLA Wintrolls always generate alot of interest (or so the stats reflect)Dec 25 21:46
schestowitzDistro reviews of rarely used distros are helpfulDec 25 21:46
schestowitzThey also bring joy to the distromasterDec 25 21:46
_goblinYeah, just had some nice comments about my review of Wolvix...Dec 25 21:47
schestowitzIf they mock it, then it means you cannot be ignoredDec 25 21:47
_goblinnice comment posted today (in regards to Wolvix review)Dec 25 21:48
_goblin"PS Goblin, this was another excellent article, i hope you get your work into the mainstream press too! You deserve to get paid for articles of this quality and they seem quite mainstream-friendly to"Dec 25 21:48
_goblinhe made a long post about Wolvix being his distro of choice too and he's been commenting on my site on other articles....all in-depth so its not a spammer.Dec 25 21:48
_goblinwhilst I think he is being far too generous with his praise, its comments like these that make me feel rewarded and gives me more resolve to carry on.Dec 25 21:50
_goblinas well as the Wintrolls trying to silence me...Dec 25 21:50
schestowitzAt expense of family? :-)Dec 25 21:50
_goblinnah, not at all...Dec 25 21:50
_goblinMy lad gets involved.....!Dec 25 21:50
_goblin(Happy Monster band on the PC next to me!)Dec 25 21:51
schestowitzHeh.Dec 25 21:51
schestowitzWhich distro?Dec 25 21:51
_goblinUbuntu 9.10 (KDE)Dec 25 21:51
schestowitzNot GoblinX?Dec 25 21:51
_goblinI should really try that distro.Dec 25 21:51
_goblinbut no.....Dec 25 21:51
_goblinand where the PC is, Im am in and out of our living room and doing other family things at the same time.Dec 25 21:52
schestowitzThat explains the lagDec 25 21:52
_goblinyeah...sorry...Dec 25 21:52
schestowitzIt's almost boxing day, I'll post some things to catch upDec 25 21:53
_goblinexcellent.  The kids are in bed so Im going to catch up with a netbook in the sitting room.Dec 25 21:53
_goblin*catch up on newsDec 25 21:53
_goblinThe wife is playing on the WII fit....Dec 25 21:54
_goblinbetter her than me....Dec 25 21:54
_goblinlooks like far too much hard work.Dec 25 21:54
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 550,000-employee Company ( #Foxconn ) Enters the #GNU #Linux with #FoxOS http://ur1.ca/ij9sDec 25 21:54
phIRCe-localTitle:   Foxconn Linux netbook hits the FCC .::. Size~: 19.66 KBDec 25 21:54
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Stays in #Vienna , But Not Without #Windows Option http://ur1.ca/ij9uDec 25 21:55
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schestowitz_goblin: do you also use the wii?Dec 25 21:56
_goblinnopeDec 25 21:56
_goblinI only use the PS3 for blueray.Dec 25 21:56
schestowitzJust megadrive?Dec 25 21:56
schestowitzAh, OKDec 25 21:56
_goblinnah....Dec 25 21:56
schestowitzYou can get *NUX emulators for itDec 25 21:56
_goblinIm not much of a gamer.....Dec 25 21:56
_goblinI do like Civilisation (the old one) that I play through Wine.Dec 25 21:57
_goblinEmpire Earth...that sort of thingDec 25 21:57
_goblinIve also got a DVD to watch tonight.....probably not everyones cup of T but its the stage production of War of the Worlds.....could not find the DVD anywhere and my mum saw it in one of those catalogues that come with the paper.....she got it for me....apparently only £3.99....great stuff!Dec 25 21:59
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Preparations for #LCA2010 and #OSCON 2010 (FOSS Events) Begin http://ur1.ca/ij9z http://ur1.ca/ija0Dec 25 21:59
phIRCe-localTitle: O'Reilly seeks proposals for July open source conference .::. Size~: 37.65 KBDec 25 21:59
schestowitzI found some good videos on the Tube todayDec 25 22:00
schestowitzOne is the biography of 100 people most influential in the second millenniumDec 25 22:00
schestowitzI bet you won't know many of the names... some from the middle agesDec 25 22:00
_goblintry me.Dec 25 22:00
schestowitzBut it's obviouslt biased towards more recent timesDec 25 22:01
schestowitz_goblin: I'd send you the links later, you'll seeDec 25 22:01
schestowitzIt's well made... in Greenwich Dec 25 22:01
_goblinok...Dec 25 22:01
schestowitzIt has some Cerf in it tooDec 25 22:01
tessier_goblin: Ever play Freeciv?Dec 25 22:01
_goblinI was just about to mention that.Dec 25 22:01
_goblinI will get round to trying it...Dec 25 22:01
_goblinIt appears to be based on my favorite version of Civ.Dec 25 22:02
_goblinI don't like the new fangled modern incarnation.Dec 25 22:02
_goblinbest game I ever played...........?Dec 25 22:03
_goblinElite 2 - FrontierDec 25 22:03
_goblincan still play that for days now.Dec 25 22:03
_goblinI meant to say Roy....Ive been hit with alot of hatemail over the last few days....Dec 25 22:04
_goblinand real hatemail too.Dec 25 22:04
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux in "Software and Desktops in 2009", "Operating Systems of 2009" http://ur1.ca/ija2 http://ur1.ca/ija3Dec 25 22:04
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phIRCe-localTitle: Operating Systems of 2009 | nemra.nl .::. Size~: 14.16 KBDec 25 22:04
_goblinNow you would think it was from Wintrolls or similar, but in this case I can say its not....Dec 25 22:05
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Became a "Necessity", Now Booting in Seconds http://ur1.ca/ija4 http://ur1.ca/ija5Dec 25 22:05
phIRCe-localTitle: Mandriva offers 10 second boot with InstantOn – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 57.65 KBDec 25 22:05
_goblinIt was in regards to my derrogatory remarks about Cliff Richard and his calendar.....Im just about to tweet about it...Dec 25 22:06
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Special, Golden #Sony Computer Runs #GNU #Linux, Costs £199,995 http://ur1.ca/ija8Dec 25 22:08
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Hint to all: If you want to avoid email comeback from fans, never knock Cliff Richard apparently my calendar remarks were not well received.Dec 25 22:08
phIRCe-localTitle: PlayStation 3 Made of Gold is £199,995 ($318,852) - Tom's Guide .::. Size~: 92.39 KBDec 25 22:08
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Still, I challenge anyone to say that the calendar I linked to the other day is NOT the cheesiest thing they have ever seen.Dec 25 22:09
sebsebsebBeen awake a rather long time here. anyway good Firefox coming soon to mobile phones, well with another name and thatDec 25 22:12
sebsebsebhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8425906.stmDec 25 22:12
phIRCe-localTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 81.98 KBDec 25 22:12
sebsebsebschestowitz: yeah a BBC article,  but it was linked to from Linux today :)  just like your one about Monodevelop having the GPL code removed, and some of your former articlesDec 25 22:13
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Linus on #Finnish Culture http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/176-linus-torvalds/267339-finnish-cultureDec 25 22:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: I liked that  blog entry, but  if they are going to add proprietary code into the app, it can't be GPL.Dec 25 22:14
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Kernel Space Progress and Features http://ur1.ca/ijai http://ur1.ca/ijaj http://ur1.ca/ijak.Dec 25 22:14
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schestowitz_goblin: what kind of hatemail?Dec 25 22:21
schestowitzsebsebseb: it made SlashdotDec 25 22:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: oh rightDec 25 22:22
schestowitzBad PR for NOVLDec 25 22:22
sebsebsebwell it is major tech news really, so makes senseDec 25 22:22
sebsebsebfor it to be on slashdotDec 25 22:22
_goblinschestowitz: on the lines of "how dare you..." or "Cliff has contributed so much....." that type of thing...Dec 25 22:23
_goblinNever knock the Cliff Richard.......Dec 25 22:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nouveau #Graphics #Driver in #Linux 2.6.33 by Default a Pleasant Surprise http://ur1.ca/ijasDec 25 22:24
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review of Lesser Known #GNOME Music Applications for GNOME, Wine Audio http://ur1.ca/ijau http://ur1.ca/ijavDec 25 22:27
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] My DE the most impressive you have ever seen? http://www.twitpic.com/px2st #linux #foss #gnuDec 25 22:30
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #XBMC 9.11 is Released http://ur1.ca/ijay http://ur1.ca/ijaz interesting release number...Dec 25 22:30
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On one of my secondary rigs which is about 4 years old with only 512mb ram! Now thats impressive!Dec 25 22:31
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Newly-released #digiKam 1.0.0 Seen as Potential Substitute for Photoshop http://ur1.ca/ijb1 #kdeDec 25 22:32
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Details About #Opera 10.5 for #GNU #Linux (Proprietary) http://ur1.ca/ijb9 http://ur1.ca/ijbcDec 25 22:34
phIRCe-localTitle: Opera 10.5 For Linux: What We Know .::. Size~: 57.88 KBDec 25 22:34
phIRCe-localTitle: OMG! UBUNTU!: Move Over Screenlets - Opera Desktop Widgets Come To Town .::. Size~: 96.53 KBDec 25 22:34
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More New #Games for #GNU #Linux Introduced http://ur1.ca/ijbh http://ur1.ca/ijbmDec 25 22:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Speed Dreams: TORCS Game Fork With New Features, Cars, Tracks And AI Opponents [Windows, Linux] ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 140.95 KBDec 25 22:36
phIRCe-localTitle: Linux Gaming News  » Blog Archive   » Joe-Danger  Stunts Racing Game .::. Size~: 35.24 KBDec 25 22:36
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Version of #GNOME Desktop, #GnoMenu http://ur1.ca/ijbn http://ur1.ca/ijboDec 25 22:37
phIRCe-localTitle: GNOME 2.29.4 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 9.64 KBDec 25 22:37
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #ALTLinux 5, #BrowserLinux is Born http://ur1.ca/ijbr http://ur1.ca/ijbsDec 25 22:39
phIRCe-localTitle: ALT Linux 5 Ark desktop review   LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 73.59 KBDec 25 22:39
phIRCe-localTitle:   BrowserLinux: Simple OS for web browsing, not much else .::. Size~: 21.1 KBDec 25 22:39
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Releases of #Sabayon #Linux (Gaming DVD) http://wgo.wolf911.us/?p=304 http://ur1.ca/ijc0Dec 25 22:48
phIRCe-localTitle: Sabayon Linux 5.1 x86 GAMING DVD Released .::. Size~: 46.78 KBDec 25 22:48
phIRCe-localTitle: Sabayon Linux 5.1 "Gaming" Edition arrives - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.56 KBDec 25 22:48
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Played cluedo after watching The Royale Family on telly. Aborted after father in law pronounced the weapon aloud. Oops. #fbDec 25 23:02
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phIRCe-localTitle: The Ubuntu Wallpaper Contest Continues - Lucid Lynx | Learning Ubuntu .::. Size~: 14.65 KBDec 25 23:47
phIRCe-localTitle: OMG! UBUNTU!: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx And The Social Web .::. Size~: 99.71 KBDec 25 23:47
phIRCe-localTitle: Print Story .::. Size~: 5.79 KBDec 25 23:47
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Reviews of the #Linux -powered #Pandora Good So Far http://pandorapress.net/2009/12/21/pandora-gets-a-hands-on-review/Dec 25 23:48
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Tablet PC to Run #Linux http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2009/122409-indian-startup-designs-tablet-pc.html?fsrc=rss-linux-newsDec 25 23:52
phIRCe-localTitle: Indian startup designs tablet PC running Android - LinuxWorld .::. Size~: 37.03 KBDec 25 23:52
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