| oiaohm | Its the cost cutting I want to see. | Jan 29 00:00 |
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| oiaohm | That will only appear in the stock exchange reporting. | Jan 29 00:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Oiaohm> the word is out on the Xbox360 in the street now. Its only going last as long as the warrenty. | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: the CFO quit | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | he didn't quit on a high note | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | They failed very badly | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Klien is in charge now | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | IIRC | Jan 29 00:01 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | then u r stuck | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Klein | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | I don't know anything about him | Jan 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Liddel went to GM | Jan 29 00:01 |
| oiaohm | Remember lot were not lasting as as long as warrenty Chips_B_Malroy | Jan 29 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Another dying company butbigger | Jan 29 00:02 |
| oiaohm | So its a improvement Chips_B_Malroy | Jan 29 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes poor improvment but a improvement. | Jan 29 00:02 |
| schestowitz | What Microsoft does withn deferral is a little akin to book-cooking | Jan 29 00:02 |
| schestowitz | And they released previous results on same day as Vista 7 | Jan 29 00:02 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Robbie Bach should be canned for Xbox360. But most likely, all the problems were forced through by Gates and Ballmer | Jan 29 00:02 |
| schestowitz | So nobody paid attention | Jan 29 00:02 |
| oiaohm | Most xbox 360 here where lasting less than 3 months. | Jan 29 00:02 |
| oiaohm | On a 12 month warrenty. | Jan 29 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: no | Jan 29 00:02 |
| schestowitz | They need leaders | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | From the inside | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | THey lost too many | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | They can't fire execs | Jan 29 00:03 |
| oiaohm | I know people who have like 12 Xbox 360's and only 1 works. | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | They never do | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | I can't think of anyone except the CIO | Jan 29 00:03 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | <schestowitz> What Microsoft does withn deferral is a little akin to book-cooking" exactly | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | And that was 2 years ago | Jan 29 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Yes more money than sence. | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | There was a scandal w/ him... Microsoft managed to keep it secret | Jan 29 00:03 |
| schestowitz | They hired some dude from DIsney to replace him | Jan 29 00:03 |
| oiaohm | Longer live span of xbox 360 directly equals less profit. | Jan 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: they can maybe be charged for it, but they were upfront | Jan 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | They said last time that they did this | Jan 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | BUT....... | Jan 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Fried & Shills &MSBBC ignore the truth | Jan 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | They want to be deceived | Jan 29 00:04 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Don't get me wrong, I like Bach and Ballmer, I hope MS keeps them. They are both great for the competition | Jan 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | "Lie to me, Microsoft, it turns me on... my nose grows longer" | Jan 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Don't like Bach | Jan 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | He's committing crime | Jan 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Inside-trading | Jan 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Ballmer is asylum material | Jan 29 00:05 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and Ballmer is not? | Jan 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | He's a kid in a suit doing dangerous things | Jan 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | People like him get sacked | Jan 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Leaders of counties too | Jan 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | Pol Poi [spelling].... | Jan 29 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Really bill gates is still pushing MS. | Jan 29 00:06 |
| oiaohm | Under the pretend of charity. | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft press quotes him | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | The whole PR thing | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | With picture of his smiling | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | WHitewash | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Sick society | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Glorifying robbers | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | And they quote him on Microsoft | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | And "bad" "evil" GOogle | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | They reverse role | Jan 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Good Microsoft versus the dark horse, Google | Jan 29 00:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer is a used car saleman. He is the puppet that Bill put in to run the day to day operation. Bill got worried during the anti-trust trial he might have to go to jail or something, most likely, so he needed a fall guy. just in case | Jan 29 00:07 |
| schestowitz | No | Jan 29 00:07 |
| schestowitz | That goes a long way back | Jan 29 00:07 |
| schestowitz | When Ballmer IIRC didn't get his MBA | Jan 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | He joined his roommate or colleage buddy Bill | Jan 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Two greedy people | Jan 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | One trying to live up to daddy's expectations and another thinking "advertisers advertisers advertisers" | Jan 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Gates escaped cause he was hates | Jan 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | He put henchman Ballmer when Microsoft did badly | Jan 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz | After the peak | Jan 29 00:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | actually you close, its Sales, sales, sales | Jan 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz | ANd he left to whitewash his image, implying guilt | Jan 29 00:09 |
| MinceR | 010251 < schestowitz> Pol Poi [spelling].... | Jan 29 00:09 |
| MinceR | Pol Pot? | Jan 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz | "There are hundreds of Microsoft millionaires (and even a few Microsoft billionaires) in the suburbs of Seattle. For the most part, these are people who no longer work for Microsoft, but still own company shares. They worked very hard for years and are now reaping the rewards of that work combined with their good luck. Most of them are proud of their careers, but a few are secretly ashamed." | Jan 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060330.html | Jan 29 00:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: I, Cringely . The Pulpit . Prisoner of Redmond | PBS .::. Size~: 29.72 KB | Jan 29 00:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Gates will be back, sadly he is the only one at presend that has any chance of replacing the sweaty one | Jan 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: probably | Jan 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | See the film Year Zero | Jan 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Year Zero | Jan 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | John_Pilger | Jan 29 00:11 |
| schestowitz | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9159164859238659487# | Jan 29 00:11 |
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| Ender2070 | lol Ken Hess is foaming at the mouth now | Jan 29 00:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Microsoft 2Q Profit Up 60% Amid Deferred Revenue http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100128-722156.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines quote: "Microsoft's results included $1.7 billion in revenue the company had to defer in previous quarters through its Windows 7 upgrade option, which added 14 cents a share." | Jan 29 00:14 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: CORRECT: Microsoft 2Q Profit Up 60% Amid Deferred Revenue - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 101.34 KB | Jan 29 00:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "Revenue jumped 14% to $19.02 billion. It would have been $17.3 billion in the latest quarter, excluding the deferred revenue. " | Jan 29 00:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so less than 14% | Jan 29 00:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe that 7% figure I had the other day, was the correct one? | Jan 29 00:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Bump from new Vi$ta-7even, because it suxs less than Vista | Jan 29 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | heh, I like Apocalyptica | Jan 29 00:17 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and cost cutting the worker bees | Jan 29 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | turning Metallica into a cello symphony is brilliant | Jan 29 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | and unusual | Jan 29 00:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | leaked vaporware windose 9 annoucement http://blogs.computerworld.com/15488/windows_8_release_date_leak_rtm_2011_free_beta_download_2010?source=rss_blogs | Jan 29 00:20 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Windows 8 release date leak: RTM 2011, free beta download 2010? - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 137.54 KB | Jan 29 00:20 |
| oiaohm | Maybe. | Jan 29 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Maybe not. | Jan 29 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Releases drive advertising. | Jan 29 00:22 |
| oiaohm | That drive sales. | Jan 29 00:22 |
| oiaohm | MS is not what you call in a great condition. | Jan 29 00:22 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | some useful facts in this one too: http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/01/28/microsoft-crushes-fy-q2-ests-revs-192b-eps-74-cents/ | Jan 29 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Windows 7 feels an awful lot like a stop gap to me | Jan 29 00:22 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Crushes FY Q2 Ests; Revs $19.2B; EPS 74 Cents (Updated) - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com .::. Size~: 63.09 KB | Jan 29 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | so it's possible Windows 8 will be 2011 | Jan 29 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | they've done this before, 98 SE, ME | Jan 29 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | two releases that basically reprised Windows 98 | Jan 29 00:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | remember Ballmer said they would never go so long without a new version again. 2 to 3 years was his targt | Jan 29 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | that you really didn't need to have as long as your Windows 98 was updated | Jan 29 00:23 |
| oiaohm | So they are speeding Windows produciton up | Jan 29 00:24 |
| oiaohm | And slowing office production down. | Jan 29 00:24 |
| oiaohm | This is going to make my networking life even more hell. | Jan 29 00:24 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | new version can mean more income sometimes | Jan 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | not realyl production, just tweaking it a little, updating the components a bit, and tossing in some new car smell | Jan 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | like I said, they've done it before | Jan 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | releases like that can easily be skipped | Jan 29 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | they like to force upgrades by denying new components that other things depend on | Jan 29 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | it didn't work as well as it usualyl does in killing off XP | Jan 29 00:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | quote from the last link: "but Bill Koefoed, general manager of investor relations said in an interview a few minutes ago that the Street in fact was using GAAP numbers - in other words, he says “we blew the numbers out,” beating the Street at the top line by about $1.2 billion." | Jan 29 00:26 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | $1.2 billion, now subtract the 1.7 billion reheld from the last two quarters, and what do you have? | Jan 29 00:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe below expectations? | Jan 29 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | a negative quarter disguised to look like their best one since the launch of XP is what they did | Jan 29 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | by delaying pre-sale income | Jan 29 00:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its all in the math, the preception, the PR, the spin, the lies of marketing of M$ | Jan 29 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | they borrowed heavily from their third quarter to bolster their fourth quarter | Jan 29 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | on paper | Jan 29 00:28 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC, yes, but I give them a small bounce out of Seven. Give the devil his due | Jan 29 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's like if I borrowed $300 from myself this month and put it in savings and had a shitty hell of a time breaking even | Jan 29 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | then next month I'm $300 ahead | Jan 29 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | exactly the same thing | Jan 29 00:29 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Ballmer wants to pretent that MS is now recovered | Jan 29 00:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | but Seven has been selling for awhile now | Jan 29 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's not that I did better next month, it's that I put the hurt on myself this month to have a great on paper bank statement next month | Jan 29 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | yes, that's a common trick in business | Jan 29 00:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | that last link had some interesting figures on how much stock MS is buying | Jan 29 00:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | wow | Jan 29 00:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | they are trying to drive the stock price up is my thought | Jan 29 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: In business you want to cut expenses or make more sales, preferably both | Jan 29 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft isn't doing either very well | Jan 29 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart does both very well, despite how evil they are | Jan 29 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | they know that if they put in skylights they can turn most of the lights off and lower their electric bill | Jan 29 00:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> M$ isn't dead or dying, just wounded right now | Jan 29 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | their PR department then calls it "going green" | Jan 29 00:32 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | it will die, if it continues on its present path | Jan 29 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: One of the problems Microsoft has right now is too many middle managers | Jan 29 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'd thin out the herd and put their salaries back into the bank if I was their upper management | Jan 29 00:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | They can cut costs even more by moving more to India too | Jan 29 00:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | which they will do | Jan 29 00:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Look at IBM, they did it | Jan 29 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | company that size, it wouldn't be a stretch to axe 1,000 managers and combine job responsibilities with the ones that aren't laid off | Jan 29 00:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | talk to an HP custermer service rep lately, yes India voip | Jan 29 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | they should try to get the manager to employee ratio a little wider | Jan 29 00:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The only jobs here left will be Big Boxmart and McDonalds soon | Jan 29 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | in business you're looking to make the next fiscal year better, never even or behind last year | Jan 29 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | if you can only get it up by 0.5% do it, or you will be in trouble | Jan 29 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I was always cutting hours after Christmas and throughout January | Jan 29 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | last chance to impact the fiscal year before my ass was grass | Jan 29 00:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Still, it looks like a scam to push stock prices higher, so Bill can dump more before the bad news the rest of the year | Jan 29 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: I tried to be as not evil as I could about being evil | Jan 29 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | some managers will take out cut hours on certain people much more harshly | Jan 29 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | I tried to spread it out so that I wouldn't cut any one person more than 2 hours a week | Jan 29 00:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | we have all been there in some management position | Jan 29 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | it got to where I was stocking shelves and running cash registers sometimes | Jan 29 00:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I refused to lie to people | Jan 29 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | jsut because I had to send that person home | Jan 29 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | that's where my 60+ hours work week came from | Jan 29 00:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | when upper management told me too (not Walmart) | Jan 29 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | cause every hour I spent as an employee meant I had to make up on my job | Jan 29 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | and this was just expected of me | Jan 29 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | then upper managements would do a hiring freeze from January through March | Jan 29 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | and they wouldn't fill any positions | Jan 29 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | so I got to reassign people to try to even things out, I ended up on returns sometimes | Jan 29 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | people returning their Christmas presents | Jan 29 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | people tryign to return the old fat PS2 with cat hair in it that smelled like it was in a fire, stuffed into a PS2 slimline box | Jan 29 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | swearing it was the one they bought | Jan 29 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | box was bulging at the sides, the picture of the PS2 Slimline was on the side | Jan 29 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | People like this always think YOU are the stupid one | Jan 29 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: If you ever want to work 60 hours a week for $32,500 a year, Walmart management | Jan 29 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | go for it | Jan 29 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | if you're not willing to move every 6 months, you don't even really get a raise | Jan 29 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | if you do manage to get a raise every year, within about 5-6 years you may be pay capped | Jan 29 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Asay et al moved away from GPL, like Mono... http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Alfresco-to-drop-GPL-goes-LGPL-915943.html | Jan 29 00:48 |
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| schestowitz | I'm rather surprised by this lad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Golding | Jan 29 00:48 |
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| schestowitz | He uses FOSS on his site | Jan 29 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: "One" sounds good on a cello | Jan 29 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | that's surprising | Jan 29 00:50 |
| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnbYcB9ctu8 | Jan 29 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | metal done on a cello appears to drive Vorbis nuts | Jan 29 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | the bitrate goes crazy in a lot of areas | Jan 29 00:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> I am waiting to see if Cinerra video editor improves enough to edit ogv | Jan 29 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | I got my hands on FLACs of a lot of stuff I've been looking for | Jan 29 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | including Seether's cover of Careless Whisper | Jan 29 00:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I can convert and edit in avidemux easily, but would like a native editor | Jan 29 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | nobody shares Vorbis but me so I usualyl have to go find the FLAC and do it myself | Jan 29 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to accept a lot of the stuff I listen to in MP3 | Jan 29 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I do have a lot of MP3's from where I had to give up looking though and where I used to use them | Jan 29 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying to go back and get Vorbis files to replace them so I can delete the MP3s | Jan 29 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of them go back to like the 1990s and were encoded with whatever MP3 encoder I could get my hands on | Jan 29 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | so Vorbis is likely to be better at any bitrate ;) | Jan 29 00:57 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Well, the old lady says it time to go to Walmart, bye e1 | Jan 29 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | I think at one point I even had l3enc and was encoding them in the DOS prompt because there wasn't much else out there | Jan 29 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | Sprawl-Mart | Jan 29 00:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | a return | Jan 29 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | tell her it can wait :P | Jan 29 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | no wait, you're married, just do whatever she says | Jan 29 00:59 |
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| DaemonFC | I hear it's easier that way | Jan 29 00:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.osor.eu/news/pl-police-considers-moving-to-open-source 0/ | Jan 29 01:02 |
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| schestowitz | BN server will soon be up for 150 straight days | Jan 29 01:05 |
| schestowitz | Kudos to tessier | Jan 29 01:05 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It doesn't say what they have now and what all they're replacing | Jan 29 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | too vague | Jan 29 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | moving to open source could mean from Office to OOo and Thunderbird | Jan 29 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | or it could mean the whole damned system | Jan 29 01:11 |
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| schestowitz | I know | Jan 29 01:18 |
| schestowitz | I tried checking to | Jan 29 01:18 |
| schestowitz | *too | Jan 29 01:18 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-project-infrastructure-updates | Jan 29 01:18 |
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| schestowitz | "This project has been largely inactive since 2002 so the GNU Project Volunteer Coordinators have agreed to start coordinating documentation activity. If you'd like to help GNU become better documented, please send a message to gvc@gnu.org. " | Jan 29 01:20 |
| schestowitz | http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=6157 | Jan 29 01:20 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @saintpaul007 Dumping Ground of Caribbean: #Haiti & Toxic Waste http://bit.ly/coF4lh // Shades of #Trafigura. Jaw-dropping. Must-read. | Jan 29 01:36 | |
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| schestowitz | LOL -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzkzMg | Jan 29 01:37 |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this is staggering. 30 times as much toxic waste as Trafigura. http://socialistwebzine.blogspot.com/2010/01/dumping-ground-of-caribbean-haiti-and.html | Jan 29 01:38 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @saintpaul007 Dumping Ground of Caribbean: #Haiti & Toxic Waste http://bit.ly/coF4lh // Shades of #Trafigura. Jaw-dropping. Must-read. | Jan 29 01:38 | |
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| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: worse: it's systemic | Jan 29 01:38 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this is staggeringly evil | Jan 29 01:39 |
| FurnaceBoy | even I am stunned | Jan 29 01:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/industry-agrees-on-icon-to-alert-users-to-behavioral-advertising/?cs=38997 | Jan 29 01:40 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: it's done a lot in Africa | Jan 29 01:40 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2007/08/03/waste-africa/ | Jan 29 01:41 |
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| *FurnaceBoy wonders where he's going to dump a large qty of toxic outrage | Jan 29 01:47 | |
| FurnaceBoy | i'm familiar with trafigura, but i did not realise all this was systematised so completely in the US | Jan 29 01:47 |
| FurnaceBoy | i think there's only 1 thing that can stop this, and that's running out of oil | Jan 29 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Or recycling | Jan 29 01:50 |
| schestowitz | We recycle here | Jan 29 01:50 |
| schestowitz | Many houses still don't | Jan 29 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy: Without oil and trees, Canada is fucked | Jan 29 01:50 |
| schestowitz | Cause we can still blow up mountains and "extract" | Jan 29 01:50 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: watch and share: http://www.storyofstuff.com/ | Jan 29 01:51 |
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| FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: we are all fucked, sweetheart. | Jan 29 01:51 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/01/jd-salinger-passes-age-91/ | Jan 29 01:51 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: J.D. Salinger passes away at the age of 91 | Raw Story .::. Size~: 36.72 KB | Jan 29 01:51 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: some more than others | Jan 29 01:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right | Jan 29 01:52 |
| schestowitz | We're still relatively better off | Jan 29 01:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but i don't think he'll quickly swallow that point | Jan 29 01:52 |
| schestowitz | The "West" is just about 10% of the population | Jan 29 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Among this 10%, around 10% are not in debt or bad lifestyle | Jan 29 01:52 |
| FurnaceBoy | and only a fraction of "The West" is even partway civilised. | Jan 29 01:52 |
| schestowitz | We rely on people suffering for us | Jan 29 01:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | +1 | Jan 29 01:53 |
| schestowitz | I distinguish between those who care and those who don't | Jan 29 01:53 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's basically the division between the ignorant and those who want to know, even if what they find out makes them wish they'd never been born | Jan 29 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Those who take private jets to a nearby cite and those who organise for change... like doing stunts vs nuclear power plants | Jan 29 01:53 |
| schestowitz | There's lots of nuclear power PR | Jan 29 01:54 |
| schestowitz | They hid the dangers with huge success | Jan 29 01:54 |
| schestowitz | [01:53] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: it's basically the division between the ignorant and those who want to know, even if what they find out makes them wish they'd never been born | Jan 29 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Don't go this far | Jan 29 01:54 |
| FurnaceBoy | too late, sir :) | Jan 29 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Some might decide to have fewer kids or none | Jan 29 01:54 |
| schestowitz | Or provide refuge to people | Jan 29 01:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFOX for example is qquite racist | Jan 29 01:55 |
| schestowitz | He loves his exclusive club | Jan 29 01:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: i like your refuge point | Jan 29 01:55 |
| FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: a lot | Jan 29 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Oh no!!! | Jan 29 01:55 |
| schestowitz | Zinn is dead | Jan 29 01:56 |
| schestowitz | "Zinn died of a heart attack in Santa Monica, Calif., daughter Myla Kabat-Zinn said. The historian was a resident of Auburndale, Mass." | Jan 29 01:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Zinn has just died from a heart attack. My heart sank. | Jan 29 01:57 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/01/22/Self-Promotion | Jan 29 02:03 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: ongoing by Tim Bray · On Self-Promotion .::. Size~: 24.31 KB | Jan 29 02:03 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Mac enthusiast http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/01/27/iPad | Jan 29 02:05 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: ongoing by Tim Bray · Nothing Creative .::. Size~: 33.39 KB | Jan 29 02:05 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 29 02:05 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: who is zinn? | Jan 29 02:06 |
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| schestowitz | He too gives iPad the thumbs up... the arse | Jan 29 02:06 |
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| schestowitz | DiabloD3: historian critical of the wars | Jan 29 02:07 |
| DiabloD3 | ahh | Jan 29 02:08 |
| schestowitz | "GROWER OF SEMICONDUCTOR WAFERS Intel had to shut part of its Irish plant for a while because of the extreme cold and the fact the local council polluted the water supply with fertiliser." | Jan 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1589123/irish-intel-chips-fertiliser | Jan 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: ^^ Intel, how we love thy | Jan 29 02:09 |
| DiabloD3 | hahahahahahah | Jan 29 02:10 |
| schestowitz | Malaysian PM wooing voters online http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8481551.stm | Jan 29 02:12 |
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| DiabloD3 | dohohohoho | Jan 29 02:12 |
| schestowitz | DiabloD3: see the sub-headline | Jan 29 02:12 |
| schestowitz | The "Secret of Intel's growth" | Jan 29 02:12 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jan 29 02:12 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Intel shuts down Irish fab due to chips being full of shit http://ur1.ca/kyct | Jan 29 02:12 | |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jan 29 02:12 |
| DiabloD3 | :D | Jan 29 02:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/01/26/fifa_videogame_stabbing/ | Jan 29 02:16 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Teen attacks father in Fifa 2009 fight • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 17.99 KB | Jan 29 02:16 |
| schestowitz | "The perhaps aptly-named Mario – aged 16 and from Rome – allegedly stabbed his father with a kitchen knife earlier this week following an argument about FIFA 2009." | Jan 29 02:16 |
| schestowitz | Yay. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/techcrunch_hacked_again/ "TechCrunch has been hit by potty-mouth hackers for the second time in 24 hours." | Jan 29 02:17 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Potty mouth hackers pwn TechCrunch (again) • The Register .::. Size~: 19.13 KB | Jan 29 02:17 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9733995-7.html | Jan 29 02:17 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Malik, Arrington and Battelle: X-22, come in | News Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 75.33 KB | Jan 29 02:17 |
| schestowitz | "OK, so I blew more millions in IDG-denominated dough in one of the more mind-boggling failures of dot-com insanity. But hey, those boozy Friday rooftop parties with the fancy sushi were well worth the price of self-knowledge." | Jan 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | now when you tell people to not buy Intel CPUs cause they're full of shit, you really are telling them the truth | Jan 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | I like that | Jan 29 02:20 |
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| Ender2070 | cept that AMD is the devil | Jan 29 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | meh, this is what you get when companies don't care where they make their products | Jan 29 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | Intel and AMD will make them wherever they think they can save a nickel | Jan 29 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | that's why the failure rate is so high | Jan 29 02:23 |
| schestowitz | http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/2/2010/01/28/australia_simpsons/ | Jan 29 02:23 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 400 Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.31 KB | Jan 29 02:23 |
| schestowitz | Next up they'll put in prison people who read comics | Jan 29 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Why not? | Jan 29 02:25 |
| schestowitz | Criminalise everything | Jan 29 02:25 |
| schestowitz | Then put in prison anyone based on choice | Jan 29 02:25 |
| schestowitz | Didn't you get caught foe peeing in the bushes? | Jan 29 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | they do that already | Jan 29 02:25 |
| schestowitz | Or were you just talking about the laws | Jan 29 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Pissing in the bushes makes you a sex offender now | Jan 29 02:25 |
| schestowitz | I guess jwalking is also an offence | Jan 29 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | with 10 year public humiliation | Jan 29 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Jan 29 02:26 |
| schestowitz | Sex offender | Jan 29 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | can't find a job? | Jan 29 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | don't piss in the bush next time | Jan 29 02:26 |
| schestowitz | In Holland they have these intresting urinals in the streets | Jan 29 02:26 |
| schestowitz | So you don't have to die keeping it in (the urine in the bladder, I mean) | Jan 29 02:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: and remember: | Jan 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | It's a bad combo | Jan 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | DRUNK | Jan 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | And full of piss | Jan 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | I.e. in need of going to the bush | Jan 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | AND | Jan 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | ALso not very sober | Jan 29 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I STILL say this.......If I have to watch a woman in Burger Kind pull out her tits and breast feed and can't do ANYTHING about it, why am I a criminal for whipping it out and taking a leak 20 miles from the nearest restroom, in the middle of nowhere? | Jan 29 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | can you answer me that? | Jan 29 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | pissing is as much a body function as breast feeding | Jan 29 02:27 |
| schestowitz | Has any guy in this channel never ever ever pees in a bush somewhere sometime? | Jan 29 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | and I try to not do it in public if I don't have to | Jan 29 02:28 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes | Jan 29 02:28 |
| schestowitz | Don't ask /me/ | Jan 29 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | idiot politicians afraid of angering some feminists | Jan 29 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | that's the only difference | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXHIS8HoUdg | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Funny ^ | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz | What happens when you strip in London | Jan 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vERMLP-5u8&feature=related | Jan 29 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Did he strip or are they coming there to disperse a peaceful assembly? | Jan 29 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's something of a difference in that stripping down would give them an excuse to crack skulls, in their opinion | Jan 29 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | they've got balls though | Jan 29 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | here, they'd be wearing riot gear and pepper spraying and shooting people with rubber bullets and bean bag rounds | Jan 29 02:32 |
| schestowitz | It's all over: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/28/obama_nasa_precursor/ | Jan 29 02:33 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Obama to scrap Moon, Mars expeditions - report • The Register .::. Size~: 24.06 KB | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz | Now only China can do it | Jan 29 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | or worse (google the Kent State University Massacre, where the National Guard opened fire and killed unarmed students) | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz | We hand it over to them | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz | The US took over from Russia | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz | On passes the baton | Jan 29 02:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's not the video I tried finding | Jan 29 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | you never hear people talk about that, that's as bad as Tienanmen Square | Jan 29 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Moon/Mars are PR stunts left over from the Bushies | Jan 29 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | the Bushies got credit for being "visionaries" over an unfunded mandate that the next administration would have to scrap | Jan 29 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | kind of a "party's over and the last one to leave gets stuck with the check" deal | Jan 29 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | politicians do it all the time you know? | Jan 29 02:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/28/amazon_q4_earnings/ | Jan 29 02:35 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Amazon in 71% profit surge • The Register .::. Size~: 21.52 KB | Jan 29 02:35 |
| schestowitz | The economy goes into the toilet but some big businesses shed off the load of wages | Jan 29 02:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: that forum link is no good | Jan 29 02:36 |
| schestowitz | And those numbers deceive | Jan 29 02:36 |
| schestowitz | They are relative to mere profit or loss | Jan 29 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | nobody is outraged over not funding a Mars expedition, but if you don't want to keep funding an unending blood bath over in the middle east, you're "with the terrorists" | Jan 29 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think the companies shedding payroll is a conspiracy | Jan 29 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | they all get together and decide to fire all these people at once to make unemployment go up | Jan 29 02:37 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what are you? | Jan 29 02:37 |
| schestowitz | Left or right? | Jan 29 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | neither really | Jan 29 02:37 |
| schestowitz | You're like a pacifist Rush | Jan 29 02:37 |
| schestowitz | I think you're confused | Jan 29 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm mid/side | Jan 29 02:38 |
| schestowitz | You don't know what you want in life | Jan 29 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's more efficient | Jan 29 02:38 |
| schestowitz | Left and right is simplified | Jan 29 02:38 |
| schestowitz | White/Black | Jan 29 02:38 |
| schestowitz | Or red/blue | Jan 29 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I blame it on being in IRC why you don't understand what I'm saying | Jan 29 02:38 |
| schestowitz | They turn regime selection into a football match | Jan 29 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | the sarcasm is all just kind of lost | Jan 29 02:39 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: that'd be awesome | Jan 29 02:39 |
| DiabloD3 | playing a game to decide regime changes | Jan 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Good.. down they go:, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/28/juniper_networks_q4_2009_earnings/ | Jan 29 02:39 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Juniper needles way to recovery • The Register .::. Size~: 23.17 KB | Jan 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Filled with Microsoft execs | Jan 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Includint their CEO | Jan 29 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Software is coming to kind of an impasse, the lights are on and the roaches are hiding under the appliances. | Jan 29 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | that sort of thing | Jan 29 02:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.advogato.org/article/1030.html | Jan 29 02:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Advogato: Google's China affair .::. Size~: 33.44 KB | Jan 29 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft executives are hunkering down for the long cold winter and insisting all is well | Jan 29 02:41 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jan 29 02:41 |
| schestowitz | I'll quote you and Malroy tomorrow | Jan 29 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | words are cheap and they might fool some analysts | Jan 29 02:41 |
| schestowitz | I saw it coming | Jan 29 02:41 |
| schestowitz | Ages ago | Jan 29 02:41 |
| schestowitz | The spin | Jan 29 02:41 |
| schestowitz | WIndows revenue down 40% | Jan 29 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Tell Microsoft | Jan 29 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: "Vista 7 has just been released" | Jan 29 02:42 |
| schestowitz | But it's down | Jan 29 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: "deferred income. go away" | Jan 29 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Book cooking? | Jan 29 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | The XP "refusing to die" has them scared, and they know it's because Vista and 7 are not more useful than what they already sold to people | Jan 29 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: "sod off" | Jan 29 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | the PC market is not growing | Jan 29 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | we're in a recession | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | 3 months later: Microsoft: "Wow!!!!!!!!! So many sales. It must mean Vista 7 is teh POPULAR!!" | Jan 29 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | everyone wants to make the old thigns they already have last | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: recession? | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | No | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | Recessions have rebounds | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | dot-com bubble was recession for IT | Jan 29 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's an environment where discretionary consumerism kind of dies | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | It recovered to an extent | Jan 29 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | for a while | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | The debt then was like what...? | Jan 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | 99/2000...... maybe 4 trillion | Jan 29 02:44 |
| schestowitz | With interest | Jan 29 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's no such thing as a recovery with $12 trillion in debt | Jan 29 02:44 |
| schestowitz | That's repayable | Jan 29 02:44 |
| schestowitz | No baby boomers | Jan 29 02:44 |
| schestowitz | More people employed | Jan 29 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | we've been in a recession since the PAYGO law was allowed to expire | Jan 29 02:44 |
| schestowitz | Then the neocons took office | Jan 29 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | and the tax cuts on the rich were enacted | Jan 29 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | so around 2003 | Jan 29 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | they covered it up with bubbles | Jan 29 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1955569,00.html | Jan 29 02:44 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Berlusconi vs. Google: Italy to Regulate Online Videos? - TIME .::. Size~: 54.02 KB | Jan 29 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | and fancy paperwork tricks | Jan 29 02:44 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: Berlusconi is a jackass | Jan 29 02:45 |
| *tolkad (n=tolkad@unaffiliated/tolkad) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 29 02:45 | |
| *tolkad (n=tolkad@unaffiliated/tolkad) has left #boycottnovell ("Leaving") | Jan 29 02:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The Senate just voted to reinstate PAYGO | Jan 29 02:45 |
| schestowitz | WHose senate? | Jan 29 02:45 |
| schestowitz | The rich people's? | Jan 29 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | the tax cuts for the wealthy expire Jan 1st 2011 | Jan 29 02:45 |
| schestowitz | Hillary? | Jan 29 02:45 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Jan 29 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Why not NOW? | Jan 29 02:46 |
| schestowitz | If it's right | Jan 29 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | if they leave it the hell alone after that, the deficit may just start going down | Jan 29 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Why not abandon IRAQ NOW? | Jan 29 02:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it gives one year for lazy rich people to open a Swiss bank account | Jan 29 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, they say when we leave ,it could collapse | Jan 29 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | I say it WILL collapse but we can't occupy it forever | Jan 29 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Then pass it slowly enough not to be noticed | Jan 29 02:47 |
| schestowitz | Pearly gates puts it in a fake charity | Jan 29 02:47 |
| schestowitz | From which he makes big investments without interest/commission/tax | Jan 29 02:47 |
| schestowitz | Rich people are so smart... like a FOX | Jan 29 02:47 |
| schestowitz | http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/01/four-short-links-23-january-20.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+oreilly%2Fradar%2Fatom+%28O%27Reilly+Radar%29 | Jan 29 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | PAYGO as a statute isn't enough | Jan 29 02:48 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Four short links: 23 January 2010 - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 27.14 KB | Jan 29 02:48 |
| schestowitz | "PayPal has frozen WikiLeaks' assets. Interesting: they need $600k/yr to run." | Jan 29 02:48 |
| schestowitz | They must be bollox | Jan 29 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | they're putting in a low hurdle that they can remove by passing an opposing law | Jan 29 02:48 |
| schestowitz | How can they spend so much money in a year? | Jan 29 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | this needs to be built into the constitution | Jan 29 02:48 |
| schestowitz | http://shaver.off.net/diary/2010/01/23/html5-video-and-codecs/ | Jan 29 02:48 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: shaver » HTML5 video and codecs .::. Size~: 34.9 KB | Jan 29 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It'll be a cold day in hell when IE supports Ogg | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they need to give the impression to the 'little people' that they police themselves | Jan 29 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | someone is going to have to write a plug-in for it | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Key word: impression | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | PR | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Perceived | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Mind control | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Calm | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | Eternal sunshine to empty mind | Jan 29 02:49 |
| schestowitz | "Why don't you go back in the room and play Playstation?" | Jan 29 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You tell me how that debt will be paid, how is can just sit there and build? | Jan 29 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | Can it do it forever? | Jan 29 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like it will now | Jan 29 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | but it won't | Jan 29 02:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: don't make kids, they'll suffer paying back ;-) | Jan 29 02:50 |
| schestowitz | Let other people give birth to slaves | Jan 29 02:50 |
| schestowitz | Basically, your country keeps mortgaging the future of kids and grandkids | Jan 29 02:51 |
| schestowitz | Like Russia started doing decades ago | Jan 29 02:51 |
| schestowitz | Now there's extreme poverty there... and drugs, AIDS, mafia, death is high, life expectancy low, huge suicide rates and almost no birth. | Jan 29 02:51 |
| schestowitz | Watch this video in a new window | Jan 29 02:52 |
| schestowitz | Death of a Nation 1/6 | Jan 29 02:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1OyIJtjdpo | Jan 29 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I wouldn't have kids, this system is buckling under the load that's on it now and it's probably going to crash down within my lifetime | Jan 29 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why people would have kids | Jan 29 02:52 |
| schestowitz | Preposterous use of the word "pirate": http://www.themillions.com/2010/01/confessions-of-a-book-pirate.html | Jan 29 02:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Millions: Confessions of a Book Pirate .::. Size~: 255.92 KB | Jan 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but living with a partner might help | Jan 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | Distribution of risk | Jan 29 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The statute raising the debt limit to $12.1 trillion puts EVERY AMERICAN living NOW, in $38,285.71 in debt | Jan 29 02:53 |
| schestowitz | I have friends here who marry and have no kids, for now | Jan 29 02:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: kids too | Jan 29 02:54 |
| schestowitz | And pensioners :-) | Jan 29 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | if you add in the other trillion that they are never going to pay back to social security, $42,532.46 | Jan 29 02:54 |
| schestowitz | Do the sum per family/household | Jan 29 02:54 |
| schestowitz | That's how it's done | Jan 29 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | Social Security is going to come flying apart by 2030 | Jan 29 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | there's not going to be any fixing it | Jan 29 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's already past the point of no return and still gaining speed | Jan 29 02:55 |
| schestowitz | Cause it's a spiralling thing | Jan 29 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's just going to be my whole generation that paid into it and are just getting ready to retire when the government tells us there's nothing left | Jan 29 02:55 |
| schestowitz | Lack of wealth>lack of investment -> lack of value | Jan 29 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | our parents and grandparents took it all | Jan 29 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | combined with the theft of the money to pay for iraq | Jan 29 02:56 |
| schestowitz | The cycle means that the debt increases with interest and cap goes down | Jan 29 02:56 |
| *chelz has quit () | Jan 29 02:56 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world-government-data | Jan 29 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | they could just print out some money to pay for this, then we jsut get sucked into a period of hyperinflation | Jan 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | http://dashes.com/anil/2010/01/free-publicity-who-do-we-help.html | Jan 29 02:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Free Publicity: Who do we help? - Anil Dash .::. Size~: 83.24 KB | Jan 29 02:57 |
| schestowitz | "Who does need your help? I'd say the current administration does. Because the biggest difference between now and 18 months ago is not that President Obama has gotten elected; It's that those who support his agenda have gotten lazy about helping in the effort." | Jan 29 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | where each dollar is worth pennies | Jan 29 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: the UK is worse off I think | Jan 29 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | debt is 61.7% of GDP | Jan 29 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | that's not good | Jan 29 02:58 |
| schestowitz | About the same, DaemonFC | Jan 29 02:59 |
| schestowitz | I did the math | Jan 29 02:59 |
| schestowitz | And our wages here are higher | Jan 29 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | "The 2010 Budget proposed by President Barack Obama projects significant debt increases, both in terms of dollars and relative to GDP.[77][78] The debt is projected to nearly double to $20 trillion by 2015, but is expected to increase to nearly 100% of GDP by 2020 and remain at that level thereafter." | Jan 29 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | -Wikipedia | Jan 29 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Maybe if he issues an executive order for all Americans to dig into their couches, car seat cushions, etc. for pennies and turn them in to the Treasury, we can pay down 0.5% of that | Jan 29 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | it's as good an idea as anything else Obama has said so far | Jan 29 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe he can fund more foreign abortions with it | Jan 29 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | kind of like with our tax money | Jan 29 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | or give us a lump of clean coal and a sheet of insulation for the cardboard boxes more of us are living in due to his policies | Jan 29 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html?_r=1 | Jan 29 03:09 |
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| DaemonFC | "About 33 percent of the swing stems from new legislation signed by Mr. Bush. That legislation, like his tax cuts and the Medicare prescription drug benefit, not only continue to cost the government but have also increased interest payments on the national debt." | Jan 29 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Obama says that almost all of the $750 billion spent on TARP has been recovered | Jan 29 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | throwing all of that at the deficit would make a dent | Jan 29 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | not saying that the liberals would ever do that when they now have $750 billion in pork and pet projects they can fund | Jan 29 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | watch them throw it away on resurfacing roads that were already just fine | Jan 29 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | they used millions of those dollars to resurface US 24 near the town I live in, between Fort Wayne and where it turns into Indiana State Road 9 | Jan 29 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | that has to be at least 40 miles | Jan 29 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | and it was still in good shape | Jan 29 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | why are they throwing money to fix things that weren't broken? | Jan 29 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | dangle some dollars on strings just out of reach of the states | Jan 29 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | make them beg for it | Jan 29 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | give it to them | Jan 29 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | then tell them the conditions | Jan 29 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | its how the feds get the states to change laws that the feds have no authority to change | Jan 29 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | bribe them | Jan 29 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | the price for all that lovely road money has been for Indiana's compliance with REAL ID | Jan 29 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | the states that are fighting REAL ID are just holding off until the federal bribes are right | Jan 29 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | the way money talks, there shouldn't even be 50 states, the whole country should just be one giant federal zone | Jan 29 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The United Federal Zone of America | Jan 29 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | I propose we rename ourselves that and fire all the redundant politicians | Jan 29 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | slash payroll :) | Jan 29 03:20 |
| DaemonFC | gets rid of all the bickering about who gets what money or having different legally recognized rights depending on your location in the same country | Jan 29 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jan 29 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | What opens Apple Lossless? | Jan 29 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | decompressing them into WAV would be fine | Jan 29 03:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aFDRxKOzJw&feature=related | Jan 29 03:31 |
| schestowitz | I'm watching some vids, DaemonFC | Jan 29 03:31 |
| schestowitz | Watch this | Jan 29 03:31 |
| schestowitz | It's about a billionaire knowing what's coming getting scared | Jan 29 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html | Jan 29 03:32 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Jan 29 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | "written from reverse engineering the file format. It turns out that most of the algorithms in the codec are fairly well known." | Jan 29 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | typical corporate bullshit, find something that's out there and steal it | Jan 29 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | retrofit plenty of your patents into it | Jan 29 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | profit | Jan 29 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | lulz@ Hug a police officer | Jan 29 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | he's not in a mental ward? | Jan 29 03:36 |
| schestowitz | Who? | Jan 29 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | the guy that wants a hug from a police officer | Jan 29 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | I want them as far away from me as possible | Jan 29 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | bothering someone else | Jan 29 03:39 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmmm... turns out that video was removed for nudity... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4MibZcOVIA&NR=1 | Jan 29 04:08 |
| DaemonFC | ya think? | Jan 29 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 29 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | nekkkidness does not fit in with teh state's agenda!!! | Jan 29 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | oh my god...... | Jan 29 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | I get to 98% and the only seeder left is in Bulgaria | Jan 29 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | and I'm getting 0.3 K/sec | Jan 29 04:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Corporate Copyright Scofflaws 0003 - Is Sound Exchange a Scofflaw? http://bit.ly/9DNG12 | Jan 29 04:13 | |
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| Omar87 | Greetings all. | Jan 29 04:21 |
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| schestowitz | What an arse......... brazinski ........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIYSODgpBfg | Jan 29 04:24 |
| schestowitz | He demands controlling the interviews | Jan 29 04:25 |
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| schestowitz | And he demands that he tells other countries what to do | Jan 29 04:25 |
| schestowitz | WHo the heck he is? | Jan 29 04:25 |
| schestowitz | Rogue governance | Jan 29 04:25 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski | Jan 29 04:28 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yahoo Answers post: "Where has Capitalism failed? Me: "It hasn't failed. The capitalists got all the money and the little people pay all their bills and watch Limbaugh and Hannity and think that if they scrub the toilets a little harder, they may be rich someday too." | Jan 29 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Brilliant | Jan 29 04:36 |
| schestowitz | "The capitalists got all the money." | Jan 29 04:36 |
| schestowitz | I'll never forget a quote from Ellison | Jan 29 04:36 |
| schestowitz | I think he said it after he announced Unbreakabke, right before the Novell/MS deal grabbed the headline | Jan 29 04:36 |
| schestowitz | People asked him about undercutting that small company called Red Hat | Jan 29 04:36 |
| schestowitz | Almost 20 times smaller | Jan 29 04:36 |
| schestowitz | He said (Exact quote I'm pretty sure): "It's capitalism, I'm competing!" | Jan 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | Heh. It's just as they say, "tough love" | Jan 29 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | He didn't undercut anyone there | Jan 29 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | I have yet to hear anyone say their place deployed Oracle's RHEL clone | Jan 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | Capitalism is great, assuming you're one of those people who praise it on TV | Jan 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | Capitalising the limb force of other people | Jan 29 04:37 |
| schestowitz | Capitalism can be good for nations too | Jan 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | If you are in a nation that is the equivalent of a person in a global arena | Jan 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | Then the capitalism is macro-capitalism | Jan 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | You can send your pesticide production to Africa | Jan 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | You outsource the death poll | Jan 29 04:38 |
| schestowitz | And then "you" (the whole capitalist nation) can hail capitalism | Jan 29 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | send it off to where the important people don't have to see it or die from it | Jan 29 04:39 |
| schestowitz | You'd say how it works brilliantly for ALL the people | Jan 29 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Which people? YOUR people | Jan 29 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | capitalism is cold | Jan 29 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Not those other people | Jan 29 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Like Chinese beaten in factories and Vietnamese in sweat shops | Jan 29 04:39 |
| schestowitz | If they are happy, it's because happinees is relative | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | It's 'baseline'-based | Jan 29 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | Kathy Lee Gifford handbags at Walmart anyone? | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: bombard them | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | Throw poison on them | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | Bring about famine | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | Kill their whole family | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | Then build them a chip factor | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | [for Intel say...] | Jan 29 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | of course, it's all so someone can drive a Hummer | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | And they'll be thankful | Jan 29 04:40 |
| schestowitz | No shells coming down fromt he sky | Jan 29 04:41 |
| schestowitz | There is...... BREAD! | Jan 29 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | they can die knowing that their sacrifice is appreciated | Jan 29 04:41 |
| schestowitz | And you have the privilege of making shoes for kids of Rich Uncle from the West | Jan 29 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Robin Williams I think it was | Jan 29 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | we're bombing them one day and dropping food the next | Jan 29 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | bombs, food, bombs, food | Jan 29 04:41 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 29 04:42 |
| schestowitz | That's how they love | Jan 29 04:42 |
| schestowitz | And feel loves | Jan 29 04:42 |
| schestowitz | PR | Jan 29 04:42 |
| schestowitz | The "Crazy tyrant " theory | Jan 29 04:42 |
| schestowitz | If you make them so shocked (chock doctrine) they become quiet | Jan 29 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think he said "Now you're playing Survivor: The Real Game" | Jan 29 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Irrational invasions terrify more than rational one | Jan 29 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 29 04:43 |
| schestowitz | This one is harder | Jan 29 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Jan 29 04:43 |
| schestowitz | You can't see shells and Tomahawks | Jan 29 04:43 |
| schestowitz | By the time you see them you can't move fact enough | Jan 29 04:43 |
| schestowitz | So you can just duck | Jan 29 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Does the UK buy those from us? | Jan 29 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | who else uses those? | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | "But Microsoft said the division that makes Office software and other | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | business programs, the company's other cash cow, saw revenue slip 3 | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | percent, while revenue from its typically fast-growing server software | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | group edged up just 2 percent. | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | "PC shipments bounced back during the holiday shopping season after one of | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | its roughest years to date, but analysts attributed nearly all the gains | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | to consumers drawn to inexpensive laptops and their smaller, less powerful | Jan 29 04:46 |
| schestowitz | cousin, the netbook." | Jan 29 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, computer components have gotten to where even the cheapest can easily take on 95% of the things that people do with them | Jan 29 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | so now the cash cow of "It's not fast enough, throw it away and get a new one" is not there as much | Jan 29 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure even I could hunker down and use one of those $100 Linux PCs embedded in a keyboard | Jan 29 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | hook it up to my TV | Jan 29 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | hell, if I had been thinking I probably would have | Jan 29 04:49 |
| schestowitz | Which components? | Jan 29 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | in the keyboard deal? | Jan 29 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think it was some kind of 1.2 Ghz Via something or other C3 maybe | Jan 29 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | and 512 MB of RAM | Jan 29 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | not terribly powerful, but it can probably browse and play an MP3 | Jan 29 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably all most people would use it for | Jan 29 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | "Concerns about the F-35's performance have resulted partially from reports of RAND simulations where numerous Russian Sukhoi fighters defeat a handful of F-35s by denying tanker refueling" | Jan 29 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | duh? | Jan 29 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | they're outnumbered and the enemy has shot down the refueling tanker | Jan 29 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I'd call that a loss | Jan 29 05:09 |
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| MarcusKoze | hello (was about to say g'morning :) ) | Jan 29 05:21 |
| schestowitz | Hm...... maybe I should buy a new PMP | Jan 29 05:22 |
| schestowitz | Hey, MarcusKoze | Jan 29 05:22 |
| Omar87 | Greetings all. :) | Jan 29 05:22 |
| MarcusKoze | managed to fix the wiki issues ? | Jan 29 05:22 |
| schestowitz | Haven't tried since, just once | Jan 29 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Speaking of which, I found my old 64/128/256MB Lyra players | Jan 29 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jan 29 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | they still work | Jan 29 05:26 |
| schestowitz | I had a 64mb one | Jan 29 05:27 |
| schestowitz | 10 years ago | Jan 29 05:27 |
| schestowitz | It wasn't so small, but better than a walkman | Jan 29 05:27 |
| schestowitz | cds are too sensitive to jerking... battery hogs too | Jan 29 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | the MP3 CD, a full discography on one CD | Jan 29 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jan 29 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I always got all the cool toys to play around with | Jan 29 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | RCA/Thomson would give my dad all this free stuff to try out | Jan 29 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | so I even have stuff they never sold | Jan 29 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | the neat thing about these players is that they're one of the only line that ever recognized MP3 Pro | Jan 29 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | which is kind of like the predecessor to High Efficiency AAC | Jan 29 05:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There is Only One #Linux , 2.6.33 in Review http://www.ghacks.net/2010/01/27/just-what-is-linux/ | Jan 29 05:35 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Common #UNIX / #Linux Myths Addressed http://www.daniweb.com/news/story256070.html | Jan 29 05:36 | |
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| DaemonFC | the techniques that both of them use are heavily patented, but Vorbis manages to do better at those bitrates even without them | Jan 29 05:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look Behind the Scenes of #GNU #Linux -generated Film http://www.junauza.com/2010/01/technology-behind-avatar-movie.html #avatar | Jan 29 05:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #GNOME Desktop Addition: GNOME Activity Journal http://lifehacker.com/5458144/gnome-activity-journal-shows-your-recent-computer-work? | Jan 29 05:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rough Sketch of Best #GNU #Linux Desktop and Shop http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/94373/and-best-linux-desktop-distro-all | Jan 29 05:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | Kenny Wilson "I Shot the Sherriff.." 5 hours ago · Comment · Like | Jan 29 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer and the deputy......he was a prick.....had it coming a few seconds ago | Jan 29 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | I love Facebook | Jan 29 05:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RevLin OS -- Based on #GNU #Linux -- is Launched http://ur1.ca/kyoe http://ur1.ca/kyof | Jan 29 06:01 | |
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| schestowitz | Heh. | Jan 29 06:11 |
| schestowitz | anyway, gn | Jan 29 06:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #China Gives OK to More #Linux #Phones http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1589137/china-thumbs-android | Jan 29 06:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 10.04 Incorporates Nice Additions http://ur1.ca/kyok http://ur1.ca/kyom | Jan 29 06:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | Nouveau is not even close to being useful | Jan 29 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | I guarantee you everyone still installs the $20,000 toilet seat from Nvidia | Jan 29 06:42 |
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| Ender2070_ | daemonfc - i dont understand your problem, you claim theres no games for linux - why do you need 3d then? | Jan 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | cause there's games for Windows and some of them can be jury rigged to run under Wine | Jan 29 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | and then you need 3d | Jan 29 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | FGLRX fails spectacularly in that case | Jan 29 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | you might be able to play Oblivion with graphical glitches, bad framerate, peoples faces missing, on Ultra Low | Jan 29 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | hell if I know whose fault that is, but it's apparently been an issue for some time so I think that everyone who works on Wine and plays games with it must be using Nvidia plus the nvidia driver | Jan 29 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | nobody has marked it invalid in Wine's bugzilla, so I'm kind of thinking it's a problem on Wine's side | Jan 29 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | in the end, the result is the same, I can't use my PC for something that does function on Windows | Jan 29 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | that makes me a Sad Panda(R) | Jan 29 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | in FOSS, the blame game is often protracted, painful to watch as a user, and then finally a year or three later, someone fixes it and all is well in that tiny corner of the universe | Jan 29 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not unlike waiting for years for Microsoft to fix something that is pissing you the hell off | Jan 29 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | as a user who has no programming skills whatsoever, it's every bit as bad | Jan 29 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | you tell people all the good things about Linux (and there are many) and when they can't make something work, you tell them to get a degree in programming so they can make it work | Jan 29 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | and to thank everyone who made that software for wasting their time after giving them the hope that it would function at least something like they led on about | Jan 29 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | When will we pull out of Iraq? "When the situation is stable!" Well when will that be? "It's unclear!" | Jan 29 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | it's what it reminds me of | Jan 29 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | When will it do what I want? "We're about there!" When will that be? "It's tentative."........5 years later...Hey, you guys done yet or what? "It's getting there!" | Jan 29 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | that's why portable programs are awesome, even if they fail miserably to do what you want because of underlying deficiencies in the underlying OS, you can use the same application on another OS | Jan 29 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070_: What gets me is how Stallman derides the Bush policy of "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists" and then implements that policy at the FSF | Jan 29 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070_: One thing I am very concerned about is proprietary file formats | Jan 29 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | competing operating systems are one thing, but spreading proprietary files around is like blowing up bridges and poisoning wells | Jan 29 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | it's not just competition, it's attempting area denial | Jan 29 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | that should be fought against harder than anything else | Jan 29 07:17 |
| Ender2070_ | thats so bush could label critics terrorists | Jan 29 07:30 |
| Ender2070_ | a member of Obama's staff wants to make it illegal to be skeptical of global warming | Jan 29 07:31 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all | Jan 29 08:36 |
| DiabloD3 | schestowitz: I wish you'd quit linking to ubuntu shit | Jan 29 08:40 |
| DiabloD3 | ubuntu is a microsoft product | Jan 29 08:40 |
| DiabloD3 | quit promoting it | Jan 29 08:40 |
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| MarcusKoze | what makes you say that diablo ? | Jan 29 08:52 |
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| DiabloD3 | MarcusKoze: they ship mono on the install cd | Jan 29 08:55 |
| MarcusKoze | aw | Jan 29 08:56 |
| DiabloD3 | and they switched to yahoo as the default firefox search engine | Jan 29 08:56 |
| MarcusKoze | hm | Jan 29 08:56 |
| MarcusKoze | yeh, i was wondering about this and came to 2 posibilities / explanations for this: 1) they really don't care about the phoney claims of patents suits there from the crapmeister micromoft, or; 2) they might've been corrupted in the end by ms' money ... you know, the richer they are, the more they want ... so for me, a claim that shuttleworth has gazillions doesn;t stand in this scope (corruption and so on ) | Jan 29 08:58 |
| MarcusKoze | although, i currently use ubuntu (the gnome Karmic)... all mono and deps purged | Jan 29 09:00 |
| MarcusKoze | yet i see too an increase in mono dependance and saddens me | Jan 29 09:00 |
| MarcusKoze | i hope i've spelled everything correctly | Jan 29 09:00 |
| MarcusKoze | :) | Jan 29 09:00 |
| MarcusKoze | so prospecting other distros and i like the gNewSense a lot so far | Jan 29 09:01 |
| MarcusKoze | if mono gets there any deeper, i'm out of it ... tried mint and after i've tried to remove the mono pile, it would remove the MintMenu too, so what'd make it different from ubuntu after all :) | Jan 29 09:03 |
| DaemonFC | MarcusKoze: Shuttleworth has subsidizes Ubuntu for 6 years now at a loss | Jan 29 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | he's probably ready to make some money or at least break even | Jan 29 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | obviously Ubuntu will be real secretive about how much money they're making off Ballmer by proxy of Yahoo | Jan 29 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | even though Ubuntu is a "community project", non-profit and all that, sure yeah | Jan 29 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | whatever | Jan 29 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | they're as not-for-profit as Microsoft, they just haven't figured out how to make any money when there's equal or better distributions out there for free | Jan 29 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | Shuttleworth subsidies are just there to buy time while they figure out how to charge money for all kinds of things | Jan 29 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat's CEO even said that there's not much money to be had off of desktop Linux, it's why Ubuntu is running at a loss, Mandriva was in bankruptcy, and Red Hat gave up and went to corporate customers who have lots of money | Jan 29 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | why everyone keeps trying to make money off of something that can't make money is surreal | Jan 29 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's like a diseased thinking process, MarcusKoze | Jan 29 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's like that fast food restaurant building every town has where there's been 10 fast food restaurants there that closed | Jan 29 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | and another one is opening up, they all think THEY will win | Jan 29 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | despite the massive chain of failures, despite the fact that it may just not be a good location | Jan 29 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | my guess is that the Yahoo deal isn't going to net them much money and it won't go on for more than a year or two | Jan 29 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a business plan, it's a stall tactic | Jan 29 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | If you're going to use Linux, use one that's not trying to figure out how to sell you shit and won't insult your intelligence like this | Jan 29 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | plenty of community distros, plenty of corporate leftovers that don't need to directly make a profit to survive | Jan 29 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | use one of those | Jan 29 09:33 |
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| DaemonFC | the RIAA apparently offered to settle with that woman whose damages got reduced to $54,000, after the reduction | Jan 29 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | the offer was for $25,000 | Jan 29 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | they probably want to hurry up and settle with her because their case is starting to not look so good and they don't want to be handed a loss and a precedent | Jan 29 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I think is going on | Jan 29 09:55 |
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| DaemonFC | even if they get the reduction finalized, it sets a precedent that they can't go around threatening people with bajillion dollar penalties | Jan 29 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | they lose some of their FUD steam anywhere it goes from here | Jan 29 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jan 29 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | now I know what to call those bill collector's vague threats | Jan 29 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear | Jan 29 10:00 |
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| DaemonFC | If you don't send us x amount of money we may send you to collections. (like it was a downtown branch of Hell or something) | Jan 29 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | then you start getting letters from the downtown branch of hell saying "If you don't send us x amount of money, we may be forced to explore other options to resolve this matter" | Jan 29 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | keep the "other options" threat vague enough to not break the law (Fair Credit Reporting Act) but make you think "Oh shit, here comes a lawsuit!!!" | Jan 29 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | 9 times out of 10, if you don't send them so much as a dime, they just put a black mark on your credit and walk away | Jan 29 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | which is just as well, because if you don't have health insurance to pay the fucking hospital, you're not likely to have the income to get a car or house loan anyway | Jan 29 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | so you march down to a buy here pay here bad credit car lot and live in a shitty overpriced apartment | Jan 29 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | and the chain of life goes on | Jan 29 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | Bill collectors, bluffing to create the pretense that they can make your life any fucking worse than it already is | Jan 29 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 29 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | I say, make my day! | Jan 29 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | Sure you can take me to court, but you have to ask yourself a question......."Do I feel lucky?", well....do you...punk? | Jan 29 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh, I keep tripping over the name of that judge in the Thomas-Rasset case | Jan 29 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | same name as my ex | Jan 29 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | "and she wouldn't even need to pay the labels—all cash could go to a charity benefiting musicians." | Jan 29 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | Would that be the "Musicians Who Get Dicked Out Of Their Pay By The RIAA Fund"? | Jan 29 10:33 |
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| DaemonFC | "In short, life can be best summed up as Charlie Brown and the football. You try to kick it and everyone keeps moving it away. Why keep trying to kick the football? We're programmed to. Maybe the solution is to kick the person holding it in the head and just say "Whoops, sorry, didn't see you there. Do you need an ice pack?"" | Jan 29 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | from something I'm writing | Jan 29 12:19 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell is fitting a flavour of Microsoft onto crippleware from http://ur1.ca/kzu4 #Apple #ipad #drm #trojan #mono | Jan 29 12:51 | |
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| rnb | DaemonFC: because it isnt "everyone" ... it's just Lucy | Jan 29 13:01 |
| rnb | DaemonFC: you better watch out, because your community college is going to think you're gonna go columbine on them | Jan 29 13:01 |
| rnb | DaemonFC: when you turn that paper in | Jan 29 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | nah, I thought Virginia Tech was way cooler | Jan 29 13:02 |
| rnb | DaemonFC: and on CNN we'll be reading about how you had sick fantasies about kicking cute little Lucy in the head while raving about guns on the internet | Jan 29 13:02 |
| rnb | poor little oppressed nerd :( | Jan 29 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | rnb: Here's the deal, if you'll just bear with me for a moment. Deal? | Jan 29 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 13:03 |
| rnb | someday you'll be in the real world and see how little all these things actually are | Jan 29 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Community colleges are nice. | Jan 29 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | Why are they nice? Glad you asked. | Jan 29 13:03 |
| rnb | i know why | Jan 29 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | Credit hours are half priced | Jan 29 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | They transfer to state colleges | Jan 29 13:04 |
| rnb | they sell you the illusion that you are improving your life | Jan 29 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | You get the same financial aide | Jan 29 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | and you can buy pot with the money you saved | Jan 29 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 13:04 |
| rnb | thats not why | Jan 29 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | yes, it is | Jan 29 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jan 29 13:04 |
| rnb | while you are making the community college rich, they are giving you almost nothing in return | Jan 29 13:04 |
| rnb | and all the while wasting your time when you should be out in the world getting your life together | Jan 29 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | everyone knows they're bullshit, that's why you go there for your "101" bullshit time waster make paper fucking airplanes classes | Jan 29 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | same shit you'd be paying more for at state | Jan 29 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | then you transfer the credits | Jan 29 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 13:05 |
| rnb | i see now why you dont know shit | Jan 29 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | community colleges are the reason the system is being flooded with jackass nurses who took the 8 month course so they could pull down the big bucks | Jan 29 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | I know the score | Jan 29 13:07 |
| rnb | you dont know the score | Jan 29 13:07 |
| rnb | trust me. | Jan 29 13:07 |
| rnb | the fact that you're so sure that you DO know the score should be evidence to you that you dont | Jan 29 13:07 |
| rnb | "the older you get, the less you know" | Jan 29 13:07 |
| rnb | there's a reason EVERYONE agrees with that | Jan 29 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I know every child and teenager always thinks they're right | Jan 29 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | as life "teaches you differently", you become an adult | Jan 29 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | or maybe it just teaches you to hide under your desk more effectively | Jan 29 13:09 |
| rnb | so, if you quit postponing life at community college, you wouldnt think that black people shoot ambulance workers coming to help them | Jan 29 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | this has to be the only country where they are on the news doing it and everyone denies it | Jan 29 13:09 |
| DaemonFC | as it's going on, on the camera, from the news helicopter | Jan 29 13:09 |
| rnb | hahaha | Jan 29 13:10 |
| rnb | here's another hint that everyone knows: the news lies | Jan 29 13:10 |
| DaemonFC | The president could get on every news station in front of a joint session of congress, pull his pants down and moon the camera | Jan 29 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | and if you talk about it, you're a racist | Jan 29 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's how this country is | Jan 29 13:11 |
| rnb | nope, that couldnt happen. | Jan 29 13:11 |
| rnb | you could talk about | Jan 29 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'm talking if it did, in front of everyone | Jan 29 13:11 |
| rnb | it | Jan 29 13:11 |
| DaemonFC | you'd still have people denying it | Jan 29 13:11 |
| rnb | yeah, and i'm telling you... if the president pulled his pants down in front of congress and mooned the camera, | Jan 29 13:12 |
| rnb | people wouldnt deny it | Jan 29 13:12 |
| rnb | however, what you WILL have | Jan 29 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | no preponderance of evidence will ever convince 100% of the people | Jan 29 13:12 |
| rnb | is the news portraying any group of black people as dangerous thugs who should be feared and who are probably RIGHT NOW up to something completely inhuman | Jan 29 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's why people can go out and kill someone in front of 100 witnesses and throw the murder weapon in a trash can | Jan 29 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | and go free | Jan 29 13:12 |
| rnb | THAT will be on the news almost every god damn day | Jan 29 13:12 |
| rnb | thats in movies | Jan 29 13:13 |
| rnb | in real life, prisons are filled with murderers | Jan 29 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that under the right circumstances, I could shoot someone to death in front of 100 witnesses, throw the gun in the trash, and walk off | Jan 29 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | get cleared of all charges | Jan 29 13:13 |
| rnb | why am i talking to you? | Jan 29 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | some fancy lawyer maybe, maybe the jury is full of idiots | Jan 29 13:13 |
| DaemonFC | but it does happen | Jan 29 13:14 |
| rnb | you have nothing to offer me besides continuing despair about the state of my country | Jan 29 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's in shambles because of both the far left and the far right | Jan 29 13:14 |
| rnb | you dont even know what those words mean | Jan 29 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | the only disagreement they have is how best to send the country into chaos and bankruptcy | Jan 29 13:14 |
| rnb | shh, shh, go back to basketweaving 101 or whatever the fuck it is you do over there | Jan 29 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | there's no such thing as good government | Jan 29 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's just a buzzword that both parties share | Jan 29 13:15 |
| rnb | *yawn* | Jan 29 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | the government should be there to do the very least it has to | Jan 29 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | instead you have the liberals telling me what healthcare I have to buy | Jan 29 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | how much electricity I can use | Jan 29 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | you have the neocons blowing my money on Iraq | Jan 29 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | it goes on and on | Jan 29 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | fuck both of them | Jan 29 13:17 |
| rnb | what does this news tell you? | Jan 29 13:17 |
| rnb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC7Ryqlxm3s | Jan 29 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | there's no constitutional basis for the government healthcare mandate | Jan 29 13:17 |
| rnb | wait until the objective reporter says "thats what they all say" | Jan 29 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | it'll be interesting to see this have its day in court if it gets enacted | Jan 29 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | hopefully that gets struck down | Jan 29 13:18 |
| rnb | anyway, go back to your bag of shitty weed and little report for your creative writing class | Jan 29 13:19 |
| rnb | it is literally the MOST IMPORTANT THING GOING ON THE WORLD TODAY. | Jan 29 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | rnb: Why is it that the liberals want to micro-manage every facet of an individual's existence? | Jan 29 13:20 |
| rnb | i'm off to continue my nefarious schemes | Jan 29 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's about control and taxes and rationing | Jan 29 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | yeah the system now is rationing, but the government wants to control the rationing | Jan 29 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | and make you pay fines and penalties for not buying into their health care denial system | Jan 29 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | health care is dead after that election | Jan 29 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | it looked like it might pass by the narrowest of margins at first | Jan 29 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | one bullet dodged | Jan 29 13:22 |
| Omar87_ | Hi all. | Jan 29 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://pastebin.com/m50a18007 | Jan 29 13:28 |
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| DaemonFC | My personal indictment of this system | Jan 29 13:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Turbolinux is History After #Microsoft #Patent Deal http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/29/turbolinux-is-dead/ #novell #patent #swpat #japan | Jan 29 13:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] "Internet Explorer - allowing the Internet to Explore your PC" - it's a well thought out name. #microsoft #linux | Jan 29 13:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | "Random people always try to make sure that their problems are your problem, some even make problems up to garner attention, but when you're having problems, nobody wants to hear it." | Jan 29 13:31 |
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| DaemonFC | I think that one was my favorite | Jan 29 13:31 |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | Jan 29 13:32 |
| Omar87 | Can I ask this extremely n00bish question? | Jan 29 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | can you? sure | Jan 29 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | will you? I don't know | Jan 29 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | May you ask the question? | Jan 29 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | or may you ask to ask the question? | Jan 29 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | or may you ask to ask the question of may you ask the question? | Jan 29 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | just spit it out :) | Jan 29 13:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "a home cook could prepare a bistro meal for two for less than $10" #toronto #food http://bit.ly/9dwpm0 | Jan 29 13:52 | |
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| rnb | Omar87: go ahead. ignore DaemonFC, he's a kid that decreases the quality of life here | Jan 29 14:07 |
| Omar87 | rnb: I don't know what he says. :) | Jan 29 14:09 |
| Omar87 | rnb: he's on my ignore anyways. | Jan 29 14:10 |
| Omar87 | rnb: I'm trying to make a bot that I can interact with on the IRC universe. | Jan 29 14:11 |
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| DaemonFC | rnb: Ironically Obama nailed the general nature of people in his speech when he said people are thinking "What's in it for me?" though he didn't tell the full truth that this is the only thing people think about | Jan 29 14:13 |
| pawel_121 | hi | Jan 29 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | how best to club their neighbor over the head and steal their belongings | Jan 29 14:13 |
| pawel_121 | it seems someone is lobbying against mono at lkml: | Jan 29 14:13 |
| pawel_121 | http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/1/28/158 | Jan 29 14:13 |
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| DaemonFC | tens of thousands of years out of the caves has still not taken that thought pattern out of us | Jan 29 14:14 |
| Omar87 | I already found a Python-written IRC Bot Framework that works and connects to the Freenode server, but does not respond to my messages. | Jan 29 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | and selfish and enlightened self-interest thinking is mandatory | Jan 29 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | you have to do it to them before they do it to you | Jan 29 14:14 |
| pawel_121 | and it seems here's something about this troll: | Jan 29 14:14 |
| pawel_121 | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/052109-ex-microsoftie-free-software-will-kill.html?page=1 | Jan 29 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | you always have to analyze the board and try to figure out which bastard is coming for you from what angle next | Jan 29 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | separate the payoffs from the liabilities as much as the situation allows | Jan 29 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | people that get married are the biggest pushovers at the table of life, in my opinion | Jan 29 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | nothing else really even comes close | Jan 29 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | the only smart ones are the ones who sign a prenuptial agreement, and even that is an admission that it is probably going to fail and they just want to not lose their ass quite as badly in the divorce | Jan 29 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | people are dumb, brutish, selfish, but sometimes you encounter a smart one, and that makes things dangerous | Jan 29 14:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] "More than 1,000 patents are essential for use of AVC/H.264 Standard" dixit Allen Harkness of MEPGLA: http://i5.be/apE | Jan 29 14:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | now that doesn't surprise me | Jan 29 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | ouch | Jan 29 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.boiledbeans.net/2009/04/20/how-many-engineers-does-it-take-to-change-a-lightbulb/ | Jan 29 14:26 |
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| DaemonFC | defective Intel CPUs turned into keychains | Jan 29 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | at least they're more useful that way 8-) | Jan 29 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzkzMQ | Jan 29 14:32 |
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| DaemonFC | and still lacking support for Fedora, Mandriva, and any distro using X Server 1.7 | Jan 29 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | but they *did* tinker with more shit I don't care about :) | Jan 29 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | at this rate they won't support Fedora until 13 is out and probably has better support in the FOSS driver anyway | Jan 29 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | and it manages to break dpkg-configure on Ubuntu | Jan 29 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | way to go AMD, you surely screwed the pooch again | Jan 29 14:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Now what was I supposed to be doing today... | Jan 29 14:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Lying About #Vista7 Sales, Bloat http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/29/microsoft-generates-more-lies/ | Jan 29 15:14 | |
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| schestowitz | Luther King delusions of being with an invisible man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1L8y-MX3pg&feature=fvw | Jan 29 15:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | A Fresh Start http://thistleweb.co.uk/blog/29/01/2010/fresh-start | Jan 29 15:23 | |
| schestowitz | Wow. Keith Cutis promotes Mono | Jan 29 15:23 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: A Fresh Start | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 10.49 KB | Jan 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | He's a former Microsoft employee | Jan 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | I've mailed Curtis | Jan 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | to ask what about Java? | Jan 29 15:29 |
| schestowitz | to ask what about Java's exclusion from the list rather | Jan 29 15:29 |
| cubezzz | is he on the side of light now? :) | Jan 29 15:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Marketfish Gets CTO from #Microsoft , Update on Microsoft-Filled #Juniper http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/29/andrew-thomas-marketfish/ | Jan 29 15:42 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Marketfish Gets CTO from Microsoft, Update on Microsoft-Filled Juniper | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 102.47 KB | Jan 29 15:42 |
| cubezzz | Gates is getting accolades for giving 10 billion for vaccines | Jan 29 15:43 |
| cubezzz | birth control would probably be better though | Jan 29 15:44 |
| cubezzz | or as well | Jan 29 15:44 |
| cubezzz | there was a SF story about too much consumerism | Jan 29 15:44 |
| cubezzz | I'll see if I can find it | Jan 29 15:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ODF allows the patented and royalty-bearing MP3 format to be embedded into an ODF compliant file: http://i5.be/apI | Jan 29 15:47 | |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: it's hard to tell | Jan 29 15:54 |
| schestowitz | He mailed me back some minutes ago | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Very weak. | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | I think Java got old before it got input from the community. And | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | because there were so many runtimes, they couldn't evolve the language | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | anyway. | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Huh? | Jan 29 15:55 |
| cubezzz | I experienced an invasion of my mind by a transcendentally rational mind, as if I had been insane all my life and suddenly I had become sane," | Jan 29 15:55 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Jan 29 15:55 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: vaccines=patents | Jan 29 15:55 |
| cubezzz | very weak? | Jan 29 15:56 |
| cubezzz | hrmmm | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Gates might also invest 10 billion in those pharamas | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | They need to seed the market | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Monsanto LITERALLY needs to SEED the market | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | EU gives them the boot | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | THey are not stupid enough | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | SoMonsanto turned to Africa and India | Jan 29 15:56 |
| cubezzz | does Gates invest in Monsanto? | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | THey are easier to exploit | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | India is now SUING them | Jan 29 15:56 |
| schestowitz | While Gates promotes Monsanto for India.... spotted it in the news some months back | Jan 29 15:57 |
| schestowitz | gates is enemy of the Indian people | Jan 29 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Also in education, not just agriculture | Jan 29 15:57 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, he invests in them | Jan 29 15:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=monsanto+gates+investment&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Jan 29 15:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.lavidalocavore.org/diary/3059/gates-foundation-monsanto | Jan 29 15:58 |
| cubezzz | he's all about IP, the exact opposite of Stallman | Jan 29 16:01 |
| schestowitz | I know | Jan 29 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Money. | Jan 29 16:06 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: thanks for bringing this up | Jan 29 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Thanks to you I did some GOogle searches | Jan 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | BN is in #1 spots, but I am seeing a lot more I missed before | Jan 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | The G&M Foundry hired Monsanto execs | Jan 29 16:07 |
| schestowitz | I missed it, it's VERY importany | Jan 29 16:07 |
| cubezzz | people might be better off growing their own food | Jan 29 16:08 |
| cubezzz | instead what happens? Everyone is growing pot | Jan 29 16:08 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure I could make some prepared food cheaper than the bakery | Jan 29 16:12 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] watching Rabnebana di jodi 3 | Jan 29 16:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @sirbonar If we photograph every traveller's genitals I think people will realise we are serious about tackling violent fundamentalism | Jan 29 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | "Judging by all the tweets, live blogs, streaming video commentary in the networked universe emitting a generalized sigh of disappointment, the announcement of the name "iPad" failed to thrill the masses who didn't happen to be lucky enough to be physically present at Apple's press conference in San Francisco on Wednesday morning." | Jan 29 16:17 |
| schestowitz | "Judging by all the tweets, live blogs, streaming video commentary in the networked universe emitting a generalized sigh of disappointment, the announcement of http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2010/01/27/ipad/index.htmlthe name "iPad" failed to thrill the masses who didn't happen to be lucky enough to be physically present at Apple's press conference in San Francisco on Wednesday morning." | Jan 29 16:17 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Page Not Found (404) - Salon.com .::. Size~: 43.64 KB | Jan 29 16:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2010/01/27/ipad/index.html | Jan 29 16:17 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: only assuming time and money are separable | Jan 29 16:20 |
| schestowitz | bakeries make food more efficiently | Jan 29 16:20 |
| cubezzz | you would become more efficient with practise | Jan 29 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Hehe:http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blairometer/history | Jan 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: not quite | Jan 29 16:24 |
| cubezzz | they also can't predict how many cookies they will sell | Jan 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | And you could make fresh food, but only if you redo a lot | Jan 29 16:24 |
| cubezzz | so food gets tossed in the bin | Jan 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | So you can't make food for several days... no presrvatives | Jan 29 16:24 |
| cubezzz | yeah that's what I'm saying | Jan 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | A lot of people live in apartments, so they have no garden space, either | Jan 29 16:25 |
| cubezzz | you prepare the exactly right amount of food | Jan 29 16:25 |
| cubezzz | I'm not saying everyone could do it | Jan 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | What about meats if any? | Jan 29 16:25 |
| cubezzz | you can freeze meat | Jan 29 16:25 |
| cubezzz | you will still need to buy some things, sure | Jan 29 16:26 |
| cubezzz | use the Amish as a model | Jan 29 16:26 |
| cubezzz | to work towards | Jan 29 16:26 |
| cubezzz | use the Amish as a rough guide, then make improvements | Jan 29 16:27 |
| cubezzz | you could can food at home | Jan 29 16:28 |
| cubezzz | it's just another dependency you could gradually wean yourself from | Jan 29 16:30 |
| cubezzz | in this case it's supermarkets | Jan 29 16:30 |
| cubezzz | I expect canning food at home to increase actually | Jan 29 16:30 |
| cubezzz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703787204574449160079437536.html | Jan 29 16:31 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Canning Foods at Home Makes a Comeback - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 122.52 KB | Jan 29 16:31 |
| cubezzz | freeze dried food can last a long time, I've used it before | Jan 29 16:32 |
| schestowitz | http://govfresh.com/ | Jan 29 16:33 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: canning with reuse of cans? | Jan 29 16:34 |
| cubezzz | Ball jars schestowitz | Jan 29 16:34 |
| cubezzz | in use since 1884 :) | Jan 29 16:34 |
| cubezzz | you can reuse | Jan 29 16:35 |
| cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_jar | Jan 29 16:36 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all | Jan 29 16:38 |
| cubezzz | I've made my own pudding and cookies before | Jan 29 16:38 |
| cubezzz | hi Omar87 | Jan 29 16:38 |
| Omar87 | cubezzz: Hey | Jan 29 16:38 |
| cubezzz | but I ended up not making stuff like that because it was too easy to over-eat | Jan 29 16:39 |
| cubezzz | and when I do make my own stuff, it tastes better most of the time | Jan 29 16:40 |
| schestowitz | http://newton.typepad.com/content/2010/01/a-shift-in-alfresco-community-license-to-lgpl.html | Jan 29 16:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody MSI will launch a Tablet of its own - http://bit.ly/ah0sWw probably running Android #tablet #android | Jan 29 17:00 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.google.com/news/more?um=1&cf=all&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=dwY4GVV4oJQq8eMXXnv4iL7AfmRGM | Jan 29 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | > This is simply remarkable. There are so many stories under that link. It really does seem as if a digital tipping point is approaching, simply because the number of articles is so large. It doesn't seem as if | Jan 29 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft is going to be able to have an easy time spinning this story of big companies moving to software that is free as in beer. | Jan 29 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > Even if some companies stop using Microsoft Office and go to non-Free alternatives like Google Docs, that is still a win for Free Software, as long as at least some of the companies are also using FOSS alternatives such as OOo or AbiWord. | Jan 29 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > Richard Stallman is exactly correct, though, in saying that there is a problem with the use of non-Free software in cloud computing. If we go from Microsoft Office to non-Free cloud apps, we will be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. The problem with non-Free cloud apps is that they own both your data and the software. At least with Microsoft Office, we can still use OOo to open the data files. | Jan 29 17:24 |
| schestowitz | > But in the short term, I think we need to break the Microsoft monopoly, because that is what is really choking the growth of Free Software IMHO. | Jan 29 17:24 |
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| massaki | hello, anyone have installed Adobe premiere on mac os ? I`m having problems trying to import any kind of files to it | Jan 29 17:29 |
| schestowitz | IBM's patents are a nusance........ | Jan 29 17:31 |
| schestowitz | The employees know this | Jan 29 17:31 |
| schestowitz | But they are brick walls | Jan 29 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Obligations to shareholder is their obligation to their kids, family, etc. So they won't risk their job to protest against the ethics of their employer's patents. What a shame.... | Jan 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | massaki: why ask about Adobe here? | Jan 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Use Scribus | Jan 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.scribus.net/ | Jan 29 17:32 |
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| MarcusKoze | does scribus run on mac too ? | Jan 29 17:32 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=OpenDocument&diff=339229921&oldid=prev | Jan 29 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | MarcusKoze: I'm not sure | Jan 29 17:43 |
| schestowitz | MarcusKoze: we should give him a link to http://debian.org | Jan 29 17:43 |
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| MarcusKoze | oh well ... good for them (mac-ers) | Jan 29 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | Nice picture: http://www.zdnet.nl/news/58336/microsoft-ondersteunt-odf-in-office-2007/ | Jan 29 17:47 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft ondersteunt ODF in Office 2007 - news - ZDNet - pagina: 1 .::. Size~: 39.9 KB | Jan 29 17:47 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why doe Sun's site say Oracle at the top? https://dct.sun.com/dct/forms/reg_us_2001_720_0.jsp | Jan 29 17:56 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Sun US Integrating OpenDocument Format with Microsoft Office Document Formats .::. Size~: 22.03 KB | Jan 29 17:56 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: because the EU approved the acquisition | Jan 29 17:59 |
| MinceR | sun is now a subsidiary of oracle | Jan 29 17:59 |
| MarcusKoze | wonder what'll really happen to mysql under the new presidency | Jan 29 18:04 |
| MarcusKoze | hope they'll give it support as needed :S | Jan 29 18:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Nice troll about patents covering h264 vs Ogg here (in french), FFMPEG and other Videolan made illegal: http://i5.be/apK | Jan 29 18:06 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, but it's fasy | Jan 29 18:16 |
| schestowitz | *fast | Jan 29 18:16 |
| MinceR | they've probably prepared for it | Jan 29 18:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/01/party-round-the-cctv-pole-in-ilford.html Life in Britain :-) | Jan 29 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/01/body-scanners-update.html | Jan 29 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/01/29/1357203/Denmark-Chooses-ODF-Document-Format | Jan 29 18:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot News Story | Denmark Chooses ODF Document Format .::. Size~: 148.09 KB | Jan 29 18:19 |
| schestowitz | IDG spreads the illusion that everyone copies the Vole. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9149922/Chrome_apes_IE8_adds_clickjacking_XSS_defenses | Jan 29 18:20 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Chrome apes IE8, adds clickjacking, XSS defenses .::. Size~: 135.89 KB | Jan 29 18:20 |
| schestowitz | /. is a help forum now? http://ask.slashdot.org/story/10/01/28/206240/2-Displays-and-2-Workspaces-With-Linux-and-X | Jan 29 18:22 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Ask Slashdot Story | 2 Displays and 2 Workspaces With Linux and X? .::. Size~: 165.6 KB | Jan 29 18:22 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #selflesson @me never argue :-) | Jan 29 18:27 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.techeye.net/software/1683 | Jan 29 18:29 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Open Source is owned by the US | Software news | TechEye - All the technology news unfit for print .::. Size~: 18.15 KB | Jan 29 18:29 |
| schestowitz | The US to decide for the whole world who should be embargoed | Jan 29 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Any FOSS repositories outside the US? | Jan 29 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Google, SF, Savannah...... | Jan 29 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.fiercemobilehealthcare.com/story/open-source-mobile-surveillance-app-passes-1-000-downloads/2010-01-26 surveillance | Jan 29 18:43 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Mobile public-health surveillance app passes 1,000 users - FierceMobileHealthcare .::. Size~: 43.38 KB | Jan 29 18:43 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Any one willing to help this lady who wrote this nice email ? http://tinyurl.com/ydkfdg3 !ubuntu !india | Jan 29 18:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ECIS definition of open standard: "essential patents are RF or FRAND (fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory)" http://i5.be/apL | Jan 29 18:50 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Intellectual Property Watch » Blog Archive » Panel: Standards Aid Innovation, But Only If Open .::. Size~: 44.28 KB | Jan 29 18:50 |
| schestowitz | The Nixonites and others harm the name of FOSS. http://appfrica.net/blog/2010/01/26/the-open-source-embargo/ | Jan 29 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39044164,62060853,00.htm | Jan 29 19:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @ryanprior iPad is scary, but its strategy is moreso: #Apple unveiled by far the most restrictive platform ever seen. http://tr.im/LXCx | Jan 29 19:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@joshgondelman [ok] to eat raw fish (sushi), but unhealthy to eat undercooked hamburgers. What gives? // watch "Food, Inc" for some clues | Jan 29 19:17 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] sudo init 0 | Jan 29 19:17 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all | Jan 29 19:28 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, Omar87 | Jan 29 19:44 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] For some reason unknown, when I got home from work I decided to make cornish pasties. http://bit.ly/7PydC6 | Jan 29 19:55 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Rocknerd: Cover versions. http://rocknerd.co.uk/2010/01/29/cover-versions/ | Jan 29 20:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Adobe ppl manage to be smug & defensive at the same time. http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/01/sympathy_for_the_devil.html #flash #stfu | Jan 29 20:18 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-01-29-001-35-NW-BD-LL-0000 \[The move from GPL to LGPL is always a sad news for Free software world, like has been for QT once acquired by Nokia. [ | Jan 29 20:25 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Great news! My brother and his partner are moving back down south from Birmingham to near me! This is excellent. #fb | Jan 29 20:27 | |
| schestowitz | WHy is CUba still embargoed? | Jan 29 20:31 |
| schestowitz | This is unheard of? | Jan 29 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Just the US does this | Jan 29 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Just because Cuba is not accepting their policies, does that justify embargo? | Jan 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | "We can't do trade with unless you love us and take orders......" | Jan 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Shameful | Jan 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, 2/3 of the US population wants this embargo lifted | Jan 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | The rest of the world is fine wit Cuban trade | Jan 29 20:32 |
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| Ender2070 | lol | Jan 29 20:42 |
| Ender2070 | UK makes 33 things illegal every month | Jan 29 20:42 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7050044/Labour-invents-33-new-crimes-every-month.html | Jan 29 20:42 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Labour invents 33 new crimes every month - Telegraph .::. Size~: 63.76 KB | Jan 29 20:43 |
| Ender2070 | including disturbing a pack of eggs during a sunday if instructed not to do so by an officer | Jan 29 20:43 |
| Ender2070 | "Thanks to Labour, it is now illegal to swim in the wreck of the Titanic or to sell game birds killed on a Sunday or Christmas Day – eventualities overlooked by previous governments." | Jan 29 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | Kenny Wilson "I Shot the Sherriff.." Ryan Farmer and the deputy......he was a prick.....had it coming Kenny Wilson That's not in the lyrics Ryan Farmer Oh riiiiiiiiight........song. :D Jerry Wilson You should not admit to murder on a public forum like Facebook. Ryan Farmer shot the sheriff and the deputy on Facebook and got a virtual 237 year prison sentence. The judge showed leniency, however, and ordered that the sen | Jan 29 20:45 |
| *DaemonFC still loves Facebook | Jan 29 20:45 | |
| Ender2070 | "Labour also introduced laws against activities which would already have been covered by previous legislation – such as "causing a nuclear explosion."" | Jan 29 20:45 |
| Ender2070 | i think if you cause a nuclear explosion, you have bigger things to worry about than a fine | Jan 29 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Brin: http://too.blogspot.com/2010/01/hope.html | Jan 29 20:46 |
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| -Md-[GlobalNotice] Hi all, just a quicks heads up that the ircd migration will go ahead tomorrow night (UTC) as planned. The blog and faq will have information as the changeover happens, tor users may wish to check the blog out sooner as there are some changes affecting them. The new ircd will also solve the spamming attacks of the last few days. Thank you for using freenode and have a good evening! | Jan 29 20:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. Now if I was on the radio, I'd have four times the penalty than if I caused a nuclear meltdown. | Jan 29 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | That's how the FCC rolls | Jan 29 20:47 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Jan 29 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | something that offends a soccer mom in the middle of Missouri and her 14 bastard children takes precendence over things that actually cause harm to the public | Jan 29 20:48 |
| schestowitz | +1 | Jan 29 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: I made my SSID a string of obscenities once | Jan 29 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | left if like that for a year or so | Jan 29 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Only minor crime receive enough attention | Jan 29 20:49 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Jan 29 20:49 |
| schestowitz | The biggest criminals not only walk out free | Jan 29 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | I live right next to the jail | Jan 29 20:49 |
| schestowitz | They are portrayed as heroes | Jan 29 20:49 |
| Ender2070 | your lucky | Jan 29 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | I know they saw that, I see their networks | Jan 29 20:49 |
| Ender2070 | someone got sued for having wifi | Jan 29 20:49 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Martha Stewart, Bernard Madoff, did less than 1% of what Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer have done | Jan 29 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | which ones went to prison? | Jan 29 20:50 |
| schestowitz | GS........ | Jan 29 20:50 |
| amd-linux | o what a joy: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/SCO-Germany-forced-to-pay-fine-918560.html | Jan 29 20:50 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1585409/bloke-sued-switching-wifi | Jan 29 20:50 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: SCO Germany forced to pay fine - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 31.84 KB | Jan 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000197.jpg | Jan 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | Yay Germany! | Jan 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz | amd-linux: seems like old news | Jan 29 20:51 |
| amd-linux | We BITE ;-) | Jan 29 20:51 |
| schestowitz | They did this 2 years ago | Jan 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | I've had to use SCO UNIX, it blows | Jan 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | I can see why Linux kicked their asses and gave them penis envy | Jan 29 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | the funniest thing about that is that Windows Embedded crashed more | Jan 29 20:52 |
| amd-linux | it is actually a small thing they got fined for, but still.... | Jan 29 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | I wanted SCO UNIX back | Jan 29 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | flip it off, flip it on, wait 2-3 minutes for the terminal to reboot, repeat hourly (Windows) | Jan 29 20:53 |
| amd-linux | wrt SCO: I still think that somebody some day will go after the puppet master behind SCO | Jan 29 20:54 |
| Ender2070 | ROFL - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246201/Employer-told-advertise-reliable-workers--discriminates-unreliable-applicants.html | Jan 29 20:54 |
| *DaemonFC bangs head on desk at "I'm sick cause of wifi" | Jan 29 20:54 | |
| amd-linux | watch ur head, mate :-) | Jan 29 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Your honor, if it pleases the court, all those negative ions from my Sharper Image air purifier didn't even help | Jan 29 20:55 |
| Ender2070 | "However, she hadn't reckoned on discriminating against a wholly different section of the community - the completely useless." | Jan 29 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | that monster next door just kepts wifi-ing me and wifi-ing me, over and over | Jan 29 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | he was like an animal, the rage in his eyes | Jan 29 20:55 |
| Ender2070 | "When she ran the ad past a job centre, she was told she couldn't ask for 'reliable' and 'hard-working' applicants because it could be offensive to unreliable people" | Jan 29 20:56 |
| *DaemonFC busts out crying maniacally and on cue from expensive Hollywood lawyer | Jan 29 20:56 | |
| schestowitz | OMG. iTampon won't even multitask??? What is this? palm OS 4 large edition??? | Jan 29 20:57 |
| schestowitz | I needed to look at the details more carefully | Jan 29 20:57 |
| schestowitz | That gadgets is a bloody toy | Jan 29 20:57 |
| schestowitz | *gadget | Jan 29 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Heh. They call it what I did.... http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_tech/~3/dY14cLkBk60/index.html | Jan 29 20:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Google FeedBurner .::. Size~: 11.6 KB | Jan 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Oversized phone | Jan 29 20:58 |
| amd-linux | roy, the ipad is a bad joke from a technical point of view. but usability seems to be good and innovative | Jan 29 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Even some phones multitask | Jan 29 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2010/01/29/find-a-security-bug-in-google-chromium-or-chrome-browser-get-500-to-1337-reward/ | Jan 29 20:59 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Find A Security Bug In Google Chromium or Chrome Browser, Get $500 to $1,337 Reward ~ The Blade by Ron Schenone, MVP .::. Size~: 65.33 KB | Jan 29 20:59 |
| amd-linux | at least for people who belong not the techie group, imho | Jan 29 20:59 |
| Ender2070 | the ipad is a tampon, they dont multitask | Jan 29 20:59 |
| amd-linux | the DRM thing is another thing - very bad | Jan 29 20:59 |
| amd-linux | dont understand why they do not learn the lesson | Jan 29 20:59 |
| schestowitz | They will | Jan 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | It's another APpleTV | Jan 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Dud with a decent label | Jan 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Like an attempt to put a celebrity with bad songs on stage | Jan 29 21:00 |
| amd-linux | you talking about brittney spears? | Jan 29 21:01 |
| schestowitz | iPad is the Jessica Simpson of tablets | Jan 29 21:01 |
| Ender2070 | commercials on youtube :( | Jan 29 21:02 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Jan 29 21:03 |
| Ender2070 | even the apple newton multi tasked iirc | Jan 29 21:03 |
| amd-linux | completely OT: Nice theory about the origin of our moon (Luna, Nathan's base if you read Perry Rhodan...) | Jan 29 21:03 |
| amd-linux | http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1001/1001.4243.pdf | Jan 29 21:03 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | Jan 29 21:03 |
| Ender2070 | I think the BEST feature, is that you can change the background! | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Ender2070 | and the web browser! | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Ender2070 | I can have the whole web on my screen! | Jan 29 21:04 |
| Ender2070 | I'll hold the internets in my hands! | Jan 29 21:04 |
| schestowitz | brb | Jan 29 21:05 |
| Ender2070 | just wait for the chinese manufacturers to start ripping off the ipad within weeks | Jan 29 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | $20 on eBay, more features | Jan 29 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 29 21:05 |
| amd-linux | In short: Luna was created by a nuclear explosion :-) | Jan 29 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | they already have iPod clones on eBay that are FLAC and Vorbis compatible | Jan 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | some even play WavPack! | Jan 29 21:06 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Jan 29 21:06 |
| Ender2070 | msi is making one | Jan 29 21:06 |
| Ender2070 | its an actual pc though | Jan 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070: Someone lied and said they had posted FLAC files, I couldn't tell cause it was in an RAR chain on Rapidshare right? | Jan 29 21:07 |
| Ender2070 | huh | Jan 29 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | pissed me off, I had to go find something that could decode ALAC (Apple Lossless) | Jan 29 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | cause that's what they were | Jan 29 21:07 |
| Ender2070 | gay | Jan 29 21:07 |
| Ender2070 | well rar should've tipped you off - pirates | Jan 29 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | I re-encoded them into FLAC after making sure they were really lossless rips | Jan 29 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | got about a 10% bitrate reduction vs. ALAC | Jan 29 21:08 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Jan 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | I was figuring "Watch some Crapple idiot post AAC fakes as lossless" | Jan 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | ALAC is such a piss poor lossless codec that you may as well just use WAV files | Jan 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | the only real plus you get with ALAC is tagging and that the files don't work on anything | Jan 29 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's an internet phenomenon (fakes that is) first it was fake celebrity nudes, and now it's fake lossless albums | Jan 29 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | and the more rare they are, the more likely they are MP3 fakes posing as FLAC | Jan 29 21:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Woop Woop! Watching Mock The Week (on the Humax) whilst doing dull dull dull SAP stuff for work. #fb | Jan 29 21:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | the best thing about FLAC is CD players that support FLAC | Jan 29 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | you get to squeeze two albums on every CD and maybe work in some singles | Jan 29 21:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Sad that work RHEL4 machines don't have GNU Screen installed. \o/ for open source and compiling myself. | Jan 29 21:14 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi Roy, all | Jan 29 21:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://minimsft.blogspot.com/ mini has a new post out now. Mini really seems sort of like a M$ plant to me, a way to spy on real employee discontented maybe? | Jan 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've done the numbers and FLAC turns an otherwise 80 minute into approximately 115.2 minutes and WavPACK can turn that into 117.6 minutes | Jan 29 21:17 |
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| DaemonFC | I know, I get bored sometimes | Jan 29 21:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Mini quote: "Efficiency: are back to our "we always fire the bottom 10% every review cycle" line of B.S. or are RIFs and layoffs still in effect?" | Jan 29 21:18 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | quote Mini: "Going back to the layoffs: first of all, this round does need to wrap up by end of FY10. The stress of possible layoffs will continue to have a negative effects on Microsoft, let alone recruiting. We should have one last big flush and then call ourselves done." | Jan 29 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | 12.3582171 hours of FLAC on one single layer DVD even 8-) | Jan 29 21:20 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | also Wilcox has some numbers on the quarter, while he still is a fanboi, he had some interesting numbers as well: http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Microsoft-reports-19-billion-quarter-lifted-by-171-billion-deferral/1264716321 | Jan 29 21:21 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft reports $19 billion quarter, lifted by $1.71 billion deferral | Betanews .::. Size~: 34.78 KB | Jan 29 21:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Agency responsible for #France's 3-strikes law has new logo using unlicensed font. First strike? http://bit.ly/8bTVGs #piracy #eff | Jan 29 21:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'll be excited to get a Blu Ray writer just because of the storage, when they get more affordable | Jan 29 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | less discs to offload things to | Jan 29 21:23 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | A comment on Mini Msft: "http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Microsoft-reports-19-billion-quarter-lifted-by-171-billion-deferral/1264716321" | Jan 29 21:26 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft reports $19 billion quarter, lifted by $1.71 billion deferral | Betanews .::. Size~: 34.79 KB | Jan 29 21:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sorry wrong paste | Jan 29 21:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | "if you take out the deffered revenue out of the report, microsoft missed on the revenue side by about half billion dollars and barely makes it on the earning side due to cost cutting. summary: expect more cost cutting since that seem to have neautralized the revenue miss." | Jan 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | cutting off pieces of themselves to respond to decreasing business | Jan 29 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | there's no way to spin that | Jan 29 21:28 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] This alien #architecture is sorta freaking me out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cantabrigensis/366266576/sizes/l/ | Jan 29 21:29 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | Overall, I see this quarter as a failure for MS in dollar terms, once the deferral is out of the picture, it looks like a decrease to me. In fact some divisions lost, especially Xbox360 lost. Wilcox article actually shows decreased on most things. | Jan 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | they don't like to lose, so they force themselves to put up with loss every quarter in divisions that are never going to do well | Jan 29 21:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | <DaemonFC> there's no way to spin that Really? Thats what MS is all about, spin. lies, PR, shills, trolls, Ballmer, BS, Its what they do best. | Jan 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | the XBOX 360 has been subsidized by Windows and Office every quarter since 2001, spare two | Jan 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | spin that :) | Jan 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | they have to release a Halo game to get their fanboys riled up enough to all go out at once and SPEND | Jan 29 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 29 21:31 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | What I see, if you add the deferral back into the quarters that it MS actually made the money in, is a decline every quarter, but this quarter only a smaller decline. | Jan 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Ballmer has complained about used video games and third party accessories repeatedly, if you have listened carefully | Jan 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft HATES the fact that you can buy used games for a small fraction of the price and they don't get a cut of that | Jan 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | that's their biggest problem, so they are trying to figure out how to sell you a DRM'd download next time | Jan 29 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | they're a pissed about used games as the RIAA is about used CDs going for pennies on the dollar and no cut for them | Jan 29 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | they've even called used CDs "piracy" from time to time | Jan 29 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | sued people trying to get a cut off used CD sales | Jan 29 21:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> sounds about right your take on it | Jan 29 21:33 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> remember MS stopping people selling used Windows on Ebay? | Jan 29 21:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | sort of reinforces what u r saying | Jan 29 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | I do buy used CDs exclusively, there's no reason to give the RIAA more money when there's thousands of copies of that album out there for $2 that they don't make more money on | Jan 29 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: Yeah, at the time there was nothing they could do about it though because pre-XP they didn't have any way of enforcing their licensing terms | Jan 29 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | the law still says I can sell my copy of the software, but their DRM won't let the buyer activate it and exercise their legal rights | Jan 29 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | and it's illegal to circumvent that DRM | Jan 29 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | DRM is a perversion of the copyright law, not an enhancement | Jan 29 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | a total perversion, an end run around fair use, but we know this already | Jan 29 21:36 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | actually I am sorry I ever gave MS any money in the past | Jan 29 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: There's so much wiggle room in the law. Abortion is legal because of a "constitutional right to privacy". If I was a woman I could abort a baby in private, but nobody can make a copy of Windows XP. | Jan 29 21:38 |
| cubezzz | of course, a natural reaction | Jan 29 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | the legal framework in this country is invented by corporations and activist judges | Jan 29 21:38 |
| cubezzz | at one time, I even sold windows :-/ | Jan 29 21:38 |
| cubezzz | no longer | Jan 29 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | just use a BIOS mod and sell billions of pre-activated systems, flood the market with them | Jan 29 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft still goes after the onesies and twosies | Jan 29 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | product activation is there to stop a few lamers from making unlicensed copies | Jan 29 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | If I wanted to, I could makes a million identical systems, flash the BIOS on all of them, and sell them with Windows 7 pre-loaded | Jan 29 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | and they'd never be any the wiser | Jan 29 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | once I know the BIOS flash works on system #1, I know it works on the next million | Jan 29 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | and that's all it takes to permanently activate Windows and sell it unlicensed on a million systems | Jan 29 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | so their entire product activation system is broken on a very basic and fundamental level, right down to the core | Jan 29 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's easily broken, it only ever attacks users that have paid them already | Jan 29 21:44 |
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| DaemonFC | and they can't remove OEM pre-activation because then businesses would be scared to use Windows | Jan 29 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | knowing that the activation system could come undone at any moment | Jan 29 21:46 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | <DaemonFC> and they can't remove OEM pre-activation because then businesses would be scared to use Windows----Businesses? you mean OEM businesses? And if OEM stopped putting preinstalls of Windows on computers, that day, Microsoft is toast. | Jan 29 21:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | From the Wilcox article: "# Business: $4.75 billion, down 3 percent from $4.88 billion a year earlier. # Online Services Business: $581 million, down 5 percent from $609 million a year earlier. # Entertainment & Devices: $2.9 billion, down 11 percent from $3.26 billion a year earlier." | Jan 29 21:55 |
| schestowitz | What an arse in the usual pro-WIndows site, GCN: http://gcn.com/articles/2010/01/28/open-pc-is-mac-deja-vu-all-over-again.aspx "While this may seem reasonable to most conventional desktop PC users, it still might not be close enough to Linux folks’ favorite price — free." | Jan 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | "Well, maybe. I think one of the big reasons it won’t is because Linux users can’t agree on what version of anything is best. They all have their favorites for every aspect of computer operation, and often can’t even agree on what the desktop should look like. Even now there are grumblings on the Open-PC Web site about the software choices. It kind of reminds me of the freedom fighter group in the movie “Life of Brian.” | Jan 29 21:56 |
| schestowitz | The one thing that kept them from forming an effective resistance was they hated all of the other resistance groups worse than the Romans." | Jan 29 21:56 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | The only real strength comes from Windows Seven for consumers, at least until you take out the deferral, and then that becomes another decrease as well. | Jan 29 21:56 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | businesses are still not buying into Seven or Vista | Jan 29 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: thanks a lot! | Jan 29 22:04 |
| schestowitz | You saved me a lot of legwork | Jan 29 22:04 |
| schestowitz | I'll write aboit this later, since I had already accumulated other things I wanted to show | Jan 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Jo fell for the nonsense | Jan 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I mailed him about it | Jan 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | He's sheep | Jan 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | SHeep make other sheep | Jan 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Esp. sheep that writer articles | Jan 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | And PR people seed sheep | Jan 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | There are HEAPS of good Linux news today | Jan 29 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Might take 4 hous just to sort these... | Jan 29 22:08 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Vonster beziers were never a particularly natural editing form for curves. some nice alternatives have existed, e.g. ikarus, cornu spirals | Jan 29 22:13 | |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hey Roy, sorry was at lunch here with the family | Jan 29 22:16 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | so if all the links and thoughts helped, my pleasure | Jan 29 22:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@theorosendorf Jobs on how dropping out led to better #typography for all http://bit.ly/aT9IIc //whiff of revisionism: http://bit.ly/b091KM | Jan 29 22:24 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704878904575031521661435134.html "Outside its Windows franchise, most of Microsoft's other businesses continued to show weakness. Sales in the division that includes its Office software were flat, while its online services division's revenue declined 5% to $581 million from the prior year, despite the high-profile launch of the Bing search engine." | Jan 29 22:24 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Profit Jumps 60% on Windows 7 - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 97.96 KB | Jan 29 22:24 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: Murdoch BS, still | Jan 29 22:26 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | And there you have it, Bing, 5% decline in revenue, the bottom line. Forget all the lies of MS with their bogus USA market share for Bing, the 5% loss figure is the correct one. | Jan 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | L0ok at the headline | Jan 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | He plays right into then propaganda | Jan 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I knew Microsoft would do this | Jan 29 22:26 |
| schestowitz | Kudos to Wilcox | Jan 29 22:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ubuntu One for Windows & Microsoft cash? http://tinyurl.com/yb7lzad #ubuntu #yahoo #microsoft | Jan 29 22:27 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Ubuntu One for Windows & Microsoft cash? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 38.92 KB | Jan 29 22:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, Roy, but even the shills, are usefull idiots sometimes, and have some information to give out by mistake that can be used. | Jan 29 22:27 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Wilcox, big fanboi that he is, still does dive into the numbers more, for that I too give him some credit | Jan 29 22:28 |
| goblin_ | Talking of figures...has anyone questioned the 7 sales.... | Jan 29 22:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Freedom supporters, please sign this pledge: http://www.pledgebank.com/DenmarkODF | Jan 29 22:31 | |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | <goblin_> Talking of figures...has anyone questioned the 7 sales....-------I think DaemonFC and others may have touched on the fact that XP Home sales count as Seven sales. | Jan 29 22:31 |
| goblin_ | if you think about it, before 7 we had vista and xp...now Vista goes without saying, but when XP was released there were far few PC's in home than there are today...no-wonder MS can claim fastest selling OS for 7.... | Jan 29 22:32 |
| schestowitz | "I found this site reports 4.4% GNU/Linux visitors from their webloag. The site is a dial-up ISP and co-location service so they may have more visitors who are techie but at least we know that up front. It shows MacOS at 4.7%. Now to find reports far and wide, wherever Debian goes…" | Jan 29 22:33 |
| schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2010/01/20/weblog-of-an-isp/ | Jan 29 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: they cheap in # of sales | Jan 29 22:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin> what would be more revealing is the cost that MS now gets for the average licence for OEM preinstalls. I notice sales increase by a factor, but they looked like an increase in Netbooks and cheaper laptops to me. So if the base price of Windows PC's is coming down still, this means MS is still having to sell cheaper licences that they make very little on. | Jan 29 22:34 |
| schestowitz | They claim 60 million | Jan 29 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Like those unused ones oiaohm tells us about | Jan 29 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Big scam | Jan 29 22:34 |
| schestowitz | They did that w/ Vista #s too | Jan 29 22:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The average cost of a new computer? Would be interesting | Jan 29 22:34 |
| schestowitz | /sceap/cheat/ | Jan 29 22:34 |
| goblin_ | Having said that theres two ways you can look at vista... | Jan 29 22:34 |
| goblin_ | sorry 7.... | Jan 29 22:35 |
| schestowitz | vista 7 | Jan 29 22:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Canadian Writers Against Google Settlement files Letter of Objection http://bit.ly/carEuA | Jan 29 22:35 | |
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| goblin_ | either as a user who has experienced an alternative to an MS OS...in which case Win7 is nothing special..... | Jan 29 22:35 |
| goblin_ | or as a Vista user who to be fair, would find a ZX81 a fast performer compared to what they are used to. | Jan 29 22:36 |
| goblin_ | maybe Vista wasn't such a PR disaster..... | Jan 29 22:36 |
| goblin_ | a half baked release in order to push more 7 when the PC had penetrated even more of the home. | Jan 29 22:36 |
| goblin_ | and also would would have been an average release in 7, now looks red hot because its so great compared to Vista. | Jan 29 22:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Vista or Vista SP2B(Seven) is the same, as far as most users are concerned, and more so businesses. You get it when you need to buy a new computer, there is nothing compelling about it to buy it as a stand alone box. XP was not like that. | Jan 29 22:37 |
| goblin_ | performance though of Vista V 7 is vastly different....and an entrenched Windows user will be sold on that. | Jan 29 22:38 |
| goblin_ | although I need to say 7 on modern specs failed to out perform 1.8ghz machine running Linux. | Jan 29 22:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | compatability is very important too Goblin to windows users | Jan 29 22:39 |
| goblin_ | but then XP mode is a complete flop.... | Jan 29 22:39 |
| goblin_ | no directX | Jan 29 22:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Seven mostly fails on that | Jan 29 22:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | because its Vista | Jan 29 22:39 |
| goblin_ | it takes a 3rd party to sort out MS's backwards comp....Dosbox et al. | Jan 29 22:39 |
| goblin_ | Roy, you here? | Jan 29 22:40 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin, maybe sometimes when you have the time, you can tell us why Seven/Vista has to have so much hard drive space? Even XP only needed 2 gb of space, and you could cut that down to 1400 mb's by turning off system restore and giving the trash can 0% | Jan 29 22:45 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The amount of space that Vista uses is obseane | Jan 29 22:46 |
| goblin_ | I wouldn't know...the machine loaned to me by a family member for me comparing 7 has been returned.... | Jan 29 22:46 |
| goblin_ | Im nearly finished my writeup.... | Jan 29 22:46 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | plus they want a restore partion and many do not even get a real disk | Jan 29 22:46 |
| goblin_ | what I like about 7 is that with a processor twice as quick, 4 gig of ram, it can't load the same packages as quick as a 1.8ghz thats over 4 years old. | Jan 29 22:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | its criminal how bad the bloat has gotten for windows users | Jan 29 22:47 |
| goblin_ | running Linux of course. | Jan 29 22:47 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | yes, I know, did not know if you had finished the evaluation or not | Jan 29 22:48 |
| goblin_ | re: bloat - I remember MS asking that question on one of its blogs...."Does bloat matter?" Their arguament was, because hardware is so cheap it doesn't matter. | Jan 29 22:48 |
| goblin_ | yep finished....the evaluation... | Jan 29 22:49 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Of course, MS does not care how much of their users space or cpu cycles it uses up | Jan 29 22:49 |
| Ender2070 | global warming cares | Jan 29 22:50 |
| Ender2070 | so much wasted electricity due to ms | Jan 29 22:50 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | There never was a chip, it is said, that Bill Gates couldn't slow down with a new batch of features. * James Coates, The Chicago Tribune | Jan 29 22:50 |
| Ender2070 | I easy get an extra 1-2 hours on my battery due to linux | Jan 29 22:51 |
| Ender2070 | easily | Jan 29 22:51 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | DRM (Vista/7) uses lot of power | Jan 29 22:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and cpu cycles | Jan 29 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and ram | Jan 29 22:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and likely space too | Jan 29 22:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Princess knocked Cthulhu off the top shelf. Evil Siamese kitty wins out against Great Old One. News at 11:00! | Jan 29 23:06 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] RT: @schestowitz: Freedom supporters, please sign this pledge: http://www.pledgebank.com/DenmarkODF | Jan 29 23:07 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Spirit http://xkcd.com/695/ !miotd | Jan 29 23:22 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@wastedcarbon just put a #ZFS root system in colo. Happy! The SVM+UFS+ZFS hybrid turned out to be fragile to manage. #solaris #opensolaris | Jan 29 23:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Did Nick Nolte just tweet a very bad joke concerning violence against women? | Jan 29 23:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4072 | Jan 29 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Apparently the kookiest kooks are in the UK when it comes to the "electrosensitivity" fad "illness" | Jan 29 23:37 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I love Salem - my cat, I really do. But he does test me with his clawing and his standing with his bum in my face. #fb | Jan 29 23:41 | |
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