| cubezzz | except some things it says are just odd: | Mar 11 00:01 |
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| cubezzz | "Most people think that Linux has to be operated with the mouse and that, if you cannot use a mouse, you cannot use Linux." | Mar 11 00:01 |
| cubezzz | well, it's a start :) | Mar 11 00:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple ’s Legal Attack on #GNU #Linux and Mistreatment of Developers Already Costing it Business http://ur1.ca/p4u0 | Mar 11 00:04 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Apples Legal Attack on GNU/Linux and Mistreatment of Developers Already Costing it Business | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 92.43 KB | Mar 11 00:04 |
| WireWulf | wee | Mar 11 00:06 |
| WireWulf | all hail apples dumbassery | Mar 11 00:08 |
| cubezzz | I've never used Apple | Mar 11 00:08 |
| cubezzz | in the olden days I used Commodore | Mar 11 00:08 |
| WireWulf | I have didnt like it | Mar 11 00:08 |
| schestowitz | I used it at work for a year (OS 9) | Mar 11 00:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Mac Asay chats with #Mono / #Novell employees about me... http://twitter.com/mjasay/status/10284487934 Noted. | Mar 11 00:09 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Twitter / Matt Asay: @jstedfast How did you kno ... .::. Size~: 10.33 KB | Mar 11 00:09 |
| cubezzz | well work is work | Mar 11 00:09 |
| WireWulf | os x 10.6.2 sucks | Mar 11 00:09 |
| cubezzz | why is that? | Mar 11 00:09 |
| cubezzz | I assume there's a reason beyond "it's closed source" :) | Mar 11 00:09 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz, not too many apps and freeBSD is better | Mar 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | He's what Asay linked to http://online.barrons.com/article/SB126783125439056765.html?mod=BOL_hpp_dc | Mar 11 00:12 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bid for Novell Could Jump-Start Tech M&A - Barrons.com .::. Size~: 62 KB | Mar 11 00:12 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't know that it's a Microsoft shill for yars | Mar 11 00:12 |
| schestowitz | Savitz is their buddy | Mar 11 00:12 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz, i like loads of apps that even do the same thing as it forces inovation | Mar 11 00:12 |
| cubezzz | well we have a million mplayer frontends :) | Mar 11 00:12 |
| schestowitz | YEah :-) | Mar 11 00:12 |
| cubezzz | I just end up writing scripts | Mar 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Reuse ftw | Mar 11 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | This song sounds like the music Buffalo Bill was dancing to in Silence Of The Lambs | Mar 11 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz | It would be nice to graph code of media player for Linux | Mar 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Seeing how much code they share | Mar 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Not just package wise | Mar 11 00:13 |
| WireWulf | i use vlc for everything for some cray reason | Mar 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Some is taken and hacked on | Mar 11 00:13 |
| WireWulf | *crazy | Mar 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz | I use Kaffeine | Mar 11 00:13 |
| schestowitz | it handles every junk I toss at it | Mar 11 00:14 |
| cubezzz | mplayer does the job for me | Mar 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Even .FLA files | Mar 11 00:14 |
| cubezzz | wait just a second there dude | Mar 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: xine engine | Mar 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | using Exaile for the time being | Mar 11 00:14 |
| cubezzz | what about Analog TV???? ;-) | Mar 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Naa.. | Mar 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | I hate Xine | Mar 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz | No TV for me | Mar 11 00:14 |
| cubezzz | can Kaffeine do that? :) | Mar 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | never works right for me | Mar 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz | TV is push | Mar 11 00:14 |
| WireWulf | cli vlc or moc will does everything for me | Mar 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz | I like pull | Mar 11 00:14 |
| schestowitz | YouTube gives that | Mar 11 00:14 |
| cubezzz | yes | Mar 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | Xine is also quite monolithic | Mar 11 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of KDE distros use Gstreamer to get away from Xine | Mar 11 00:15 |
| cubezzz | I do like the cli :) | Mar 11 00:15 |
| WireWulf | i like moc | Mar 11 00:16 |
| cubezzz | nothing does everything | Mar 11 00:16 |
| cubezzz | in fact that's going against the grain of Unix | Mar 11 00:16 |
| WireWulf | brb cooking | Mar 11 00:16 |
| cubezzz | I agree, TV isn't that great | Mar 11 00:17 |
| cubezzz | but free UHF is nice | Mar 11 00:17 |
| WireWulf | i can watch anything i want online | Mar 11 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinta_%28disease%29 | Mar 11 00:19 |
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| schestowitz | Good comments here: http://www.zdnet.com.au/blogs/null-pointer/soa/Moonlight-s-Olympic-sized-failure/0,2001102868,339301546,00.htm | Mar 11 00:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Moonlight's Olympic-sized failure: Blogs - Null Pointer - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 101.25 KB | Mar 11 00:19 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: thanks, but hurry up, I'm getting hungry :-p | Mar 11 00:20 |
| cubezzz | the main problem with media delivery on the net is it's too slow | Mar 11 00:20 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz, umm you like bloody steaks ? | Mar 11 00:20 |
| cubezzz | if you don't care about how fast you get it, it's fine | Mar 11 00:20 |
| cubezzz | no red meat for me :) | Mar 11 00:21 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz, my eyes really aint that good | Mar 11 00:21 |
| WireWulf | so hd is a waste | Mar 11 00:21 |
| WireWulf | s hardly buffers when i wanna watch something | Mar 11 00:22 |
| cubezzz | WireWulf, what size of TV do you have? | Mar 11 00:22 |
| WireWulf | i dont own a tv | Mar 11 00:22 |
| WireWulf | my parents do | Mar 11 00:23 |
| WireWulf | i dont | Mar 11 00:23 |
| cubezzz | well you can always put a tv tuner card in your computer | Mar 11 00:23 |
| cubezzz | but yeah, TV isn't that great :) | Mar 11 00:25 |
| cubezzz | the olympics on HDTV was nice though | Mar 11 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Canadians liked it | Mar 11 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Cause it was local and wintry | Mar 11 00:30 |
| schestowitz | It's hardly watched here | Mar 11 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Even in Scotland | Mar 11 00:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't think we have any world class hokey team, either | Mar 11 00:31 |
| schestowitz | *hockey | Mar 11 00:31 |
| cubezzz | UK got a gold in women's skeleton though :) | Mar 11 00:31 |
| schestowitz | "by Mr. Dee " | Mar 11 00:33 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10465531-16.html | Mar 11 00:33 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: If Novell gets bought, will Red Hat follow? | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 117.3 KB | Mar 11 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft shill still comments in CNET | Mar 11 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Da Costa | Mar 11 00:33 |
| cubezzz | wow, there's even anti-NBC messages | Mar 11 00:34 |
| cubezzz | and usually I like NBC | Mar 11 00:34 |
| cubezzz | after all, they broadcasted Star Trek in the old days | Mar 11 00:34 |
| schestowitz | where? | Mar 11 00:34 |
| cubezzz | in the comments about Moonlight | Mar 11 00:34 |
| schestowitz | GE | Mar 11 00:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin Microsoft-paid shill (Da Costa) still comments in CNET under the "Mr. Dee" nym http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10465531-16.html | Mar 11 00:35 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: If Novell gets bought, will Red Hat follow? | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 114.69 KB | Mar 11 00:35 |
| cubezzz | "NBC, you're an OVER-THE-AIR broadcast company. Due to not having a Premium provider, you are one of the FOUR CHANNELS that my televisions receive, meaning you get my eyeballs much more than any other channel. Yet I need to pay someone else to see your footage? FAIL" | Mar 11 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | jono, It appears you guys bought yourself a genuine loose cannon. :) | Mar 11 00:35 |
| cubezzz | btw my TV is linux based, so I _did_ watch the Olympics using Linux :) | Mar 11 00:36 |
| WireWulf | red hat linux getting bought woul be bad | Mar 11 00:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/four-in-five-people-consider-internet-a-human-right-5714 | Mar 11 00:36 |
| WireWulf | *would | Mar 11 00:36 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Four In Five People Consider Internet A Human Right | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 31.47 KB | Mar 11 00:36 |
| cubezzz | on CTV though, not NBC :) | Mar 11 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, It won't happen. They're not dying off like Novell. | Mar 11 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | They don't rely on Click pennies from Bing search to try to break even while they dump their main product | Mar 11 00:37 |
| schestowitz | They increase profit | Mar 11 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Novell loses it | Mar 11 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat is healthy | Mar 11 00:37 |
| cubezzz | $30.36 per share and rising | Mar 11 00:37 |
| WireWulf | who owns Sco Unix? | Mar 11 00:38 |
| tessier_ | SCO presumably | Mar 11 00:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/news-mobile-wireless/nokia-patent-targets-mobile-device-kinetic-energy-charging-5723 | Mar 11 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Canonical has penis envy an they're expressing it through the misinformation columns of Matt Asay | Mar 11 00:38 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Nokia Patent Targets Mobile Device Kinetic Energy Charging | eWEEK Europe UK .::. Size~: 29.64 KB | Mar 11 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | That's what's at work here | Mar 11 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | talk is cheap though | Mar 11 00:39 |
| WireWulf | well then i would watch them as i havent seen a Sco Unix server in awail | Mar 11 00:39 |
| cubezzz | didn't they go bankrupt in 2007? | Mar 11 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | If Canonical wants to compete with Red Hat, they need a product, support service, etc. that rivals Red Hat | Mar 11 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | they might be close with the product (Ubuntu) | Mar 11 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | but the support is not as good | Mar 11 00:40 |
| WireWulf | cubezzz, there still around | Mar 11 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | the LTS releases of Ubuntu Server are good enough to standardize on, that may be good enough to turn a profit eventually | Mar 11 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu Server has no GUI or desktop by default obviously | Mar 11 00:41 |
| WireWulf | well i have to finish cooking | Mar 11 00:41 |
| WireWulf | bbl | Mar 11 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | so this singing dancing Mac emulating crap doesn't apply there | Mar 11 00:41 |
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| DaemonFC | I know of a good sized IRC network that I'm usually on that runs off of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS | Mar 11 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | and gets good uptime too | Mar 11 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | the 6 month releases are something a user deploying servers wouldn't want, but LTS are nice and stable and long lived | Mar 11 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | that's what will compete with RHEL | Mar 11 00:43 |
| cubezzz | sco.com doesn't even work | Mar 11 00:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @ohnBirmingham Surprised and perplexed that you got spiked @CatherineDeveny. Here, have a big, fat retweet. http://bit.ly/d4tHRx | Mar 11 00:44 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0.38 KB | Mar 11 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Look at the pile of bollox Mac Asay generated | Mar 11 00:44 |
| schestowitz | People think CNET is new | Mar 11 00:44 |
| schestowitz | Now INQ cited him | Mar 11 00:44 |
| schestowitz | "The next target might be Red Hat. Some think that if Novell's SUSE Linux business finds its way into Oracle's or VMware's or IBM's paws, it will be hard for Red Hat to remain viable as a stand alone company." | Mar 11 00:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/feature/1595603/microsoft-novell | Mar 11 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Their source is Mac Asay | Mar 11 00:45 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft needs novell - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.24 KB | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Like I said, he's a loose cannon | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | totally reckless | Mar 11 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's a shame he has such influence over where Ubuntu goes while openly masturbating to Apple products | Mar 11 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | a damned shame | Mar 11 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's going to hurt them | Mar 11 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | promoting iPods as Ubuntu compatible when they have no control at all whether they continue working with Ubuntu | Mar 11 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | so people can go out and buy the damned things, use them with their Mac or Windows, get an involuntary update | Mar 11 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | and BAM, no workey with Ubuntu | Mar 11 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | that's the big danger in recommending products from a competitor | Mar 11 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's like if Apple recommended the Zune because they found out a way to make it work for now using reverse engineering | Mar 11 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | (assuming they didn't have the ipod) | Mar 11 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Nobody from Canonical should be recommending any PMP that doesn't support Mass Storage Class protocol | Mar 11 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | EVER | Mar 11 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Promoting devices with secret connection protocols that are only guaranteed until the next firmware update is irresponsible, and shouldn't be told it's "supported by Ubuntu" when they can't possibly support it. jono | Mar 11 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | *users shouldn't be told | Mar 11 00:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://bbjonline.hu/index.php?col=1000&cat=&id=52025 | Mar 11 00:54 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Novell Magyarország projects 5%-10% revenue growth in 2010 _ Budapest Business Journal _ bbj.hu .::. Size~: 40.32 KB | Mar 11 00:54 |
| schestowitz | I thought iSTUFF did mass storage... | Mar 11 00:55 |
| schestowitz | I guess I was wrong | Mar 11 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Apple will FireWire the heck out of it | Mar 11 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | no, it doesn't | Mar 11 00:55 |
| schestowitz | And design it to LOOK well, not to work well | Mar 11 00:55 |
| MinceR | iirc hypePods can't play songs you put on them via MSC | Mar 11 00:56 |
| MinceR | or rather, won't | Mar 11 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | it's the most godawful player I've ever used (iPod), even outdoing the RCA Lyra for bottom spot | Mar 11 00:56 |
| schestowitz | "think different" also means "Deviate from standards" | Mar 11 00:56 |
| cubezzz | well, to a degree | Mar 11 01:01 |
| cubezzz | otherwise things would stagnate | Mar 11 01:01 |
| cubezzz | the enemy of the good is the greater good | Mar 11 01:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=12257 | Mar 11 01:05 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Please Welcome Yet Another Guy With a Beard | Tech Broiler | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 98.96 KB | Mar 11 01:05 |
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| schestowitz | Not a FOSS person of course | Mar 11 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Can't afford *those* in Zeedeeee | Mar 11 01:06 |
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| DaemonFC | jono, Is there a place that documents exactly what behaviors the Firefox AppArmor profile blocks? | Mar 11 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | I would be most interested to see that | Mar 11 01:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1595642/icann-reconsiders-adult-website-suffiix | Mar 11 01:09 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Icann reconsiders adult website suffiix - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 60 KB | Mar 11 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's needed a profile for years actually, making it default to enforce may just head malicious exploits off at the pass | Mar 11 01:09 |
| jono | DaemonFC, sorry, I am busy now, can't chat | Mar 11 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh | Mar 11 01:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/02/bbc_6music_web_cuts/ | Mar 11 01:15 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC confirms death of 6Music, slashes online budget by a quarter • The Register .::. Size~: 26.07 KB | Mar 11 01:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/02/ibm_us_job_cuts/ | Mar 11 01:16 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: IBM cuts more than 1,600 US jobs • The Register .::. Size~: 25.47 KB | Mar 11 01:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/03/campbell_assault/ "Campbell's previous form includes assaulting two police officers at Heathrow airport, attacking her personal assistant with a BlackBerry and chucking a mobile phone at her maid. " | Mar 11 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | US still cooks unemployment #s "The magic of numbers continued in the United States today, as the Department of Labor said the workforce in America shrank by 36,000 jobs in February, and yet the unemployment rate held steady at 9.7 per cent." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/05/us_jobs_report_feb2009/ | Mar 11 01:23 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Another 36,000 US jobs lost in February • The Register .::. Size~: 23.8 KB | Mar 11 01:23 |
| schestowitz | It's down, so it up | Mar 11 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/535247 | Mar 11 01:24 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bug #535247 in sun-java6 (Ubuntu): “sun-java6 browser plugin forces stack to be executable” .::. Size~: 31.56 KB | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | Jesus..... | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | # These are seriously unfortunate, but required due to LP: #535247 | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | /etc/passwd m, | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | owner @{HOME}/.java/**/cache/** m, | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | owner /tmp/** m, | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | /usr/lib{,32,64}/jvm/**/*.jar mr, | Mar 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | /usr/share/fonts/** m, | Mar 11 01:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] RE: We already hire a full design team who works tirelessly on improving the user experience of Ubuntu: I would argue … http://disq.us/dk3g7 | Mar 11 01:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | so they castrate Firefox's AppArmor profile to satisfy Sun Java | Mar 11 01:25 |
| *DaemonFC comments that shit out | Mar 11 01:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] RE: I don't think you understand the point of the UI Freeze: this does not mean that we don't fix bugs after the freez… http://disq.us/dk3g9 | Mar 11 01:26 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/09/vodafone_cuts/ | Mar 11 01:27 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Vodafone cuts more staff • The Register .::. Size~: 25.37 KB | Mar 11 01:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] The Little Red Hot Rod – Honda Fitt – A Good Fit For the Twenty-First Century http://bit.ly/9MgW0B | Mar 11 01:38 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Little Red Hot Rod Honda Fitt A Good Fit For the Twenty-First Century « Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 86.89 KB | Mar 11 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/why-ad-blocking-is-devastating-to-the-sites-you-love.ars | Mar 11 01:40 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Why Ad Blocking is devastating to the sites you love .::. Size~: 34.37 KB | Mar 11 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | Ars bitches about ad blockers | Mar 11 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | ho-hum | Mar 11 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | let 'em | Mar 11 01:41 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They tried to make content disappear if you used an ad blocker | Mar 11 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | so I tweaked my filters and got it working again | Mar 11 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Mar 11 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | idiots | Mar 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, BN posted 3 items on it | Mar 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz | Ars gets slapped for it | Mar 11 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | the truly hilarious bit about sites that use a script and a timer to figure out whether their ads loaded, is that your ad blocker can block the script | Mar 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz | NoScript | Mar 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | nah, that's a machete where a scalpel will suffice | Mar 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz | People who block ads rarely click them anyway | Mar 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Unless by accident | Mar 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz | The more savvy, the less interest in ads | Mar 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz | Chitika showed this | Mar 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's why Sci Fi in the US is the least profitable and most expensive to make | Mar 11 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | people that watch it respond less to ads | Mar 11 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they turned Battlestar Galactica's spinoff into a sitcom with a Sci Fi theme | Mar 11 01:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] RE: @omgubuntu I spoke to Benjamin about this article before he posted it, and offered some advice on what he wanted t… http://disq.us/dk3h4 | Mar 11 01:47 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 302 FOUND .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | hoping to rope in people who are responsive to ads | Mar 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | err, not sitcom, soap opera | Mar 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I meant to say | Mar 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Sci Fi Soap Opera | Mar 11 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | icckth | Mar 11 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | they end up pissing everyone off when they do this | Mar 11 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | they did it to Stargate Universe too | Mar 11 01:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] RE: LOL! :-) http://disq.us/dk3hj | Mar 11 01:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] So my previous omgubuntu tweet was an accident, didnt mean to click the response part of the page and tweet it. Whoops! | Mar 11 01:55 | |
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| yuhong | http://slashdot.org/story/10/03/08/2342241/Why-Microsoft-Cant-Afford-To-Let-Novell-Die | Mar 11 02:02 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Story | Why Microsoft Can't Afford To Let Novell Die .::. Size~: 163.85 KB | Mar 11 02:02 |
| yuhong | Has this been covered on BN. | Mar 11 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You figure Microsoft will pump some money into Novell somehow? | Mar 11 02:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Any #osx coders fancy helping a little project to make a simple app to create bootable #ubuntu USB sticks? Please. http://bit.ly/9O65HC | Mar 11 02:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] RE: Absolutely, I think it makes great sense to have our designers explaining much of the rationale behind decisions t… http://disq.us/dk3im | Mar 11 02:30 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Mar 11 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | People try to argue with me and the best person they can think of to invoke is Margaret Thatcher? | Mar 11 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Why do I bother? | Mar 11 02:38 |
| yuhong | http://slashdot.org/story/10/03/08/2342241/Why-Microsoft-Cant-Afford-To-Let-Novell-Die | Mar 11 02:40 |
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| yuhong | schestowitz: Has this been covered on BN? | Mar 11 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | jono, "Pidgin should minimize to messaging menu, instead of closing" I bitched about that when they inexplicably changed it, didn't get me very far | Mar 11 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | if you want it in the indicator-crapplet, at least let it minimize there | Mar 11 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | "Not only does this program destroy your system by removing dependencies and third party software that you’ve installed from .debs, but it also looks hideous and unfinished with incorrect padding and missing sections." | Mar 11 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | ROFLCOPTER | Mar 11 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | so true | Mar 11 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh, the creep of things into the preferences menu | Mar 11 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | including two entries just for Gwibber | Mar 11 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | might be nice if Ubuntu just cleaned it up and used GNOME Control Center instead | Mar 11 02:48 |
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| MinceR | can't use any "control center", it isn't crApple-like enough | Mar 11 02:50 |
| MinceR | ;) | Mar 11 02:50 |
| MinceR | (unless you meant System Settings) | Mar 11 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, What does "janitor" translate to in Hungarian? | Mar 11 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | some guy here says it wouldn't translate well | Mar 11 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | jono, Seriously, you guys need to knock it off with the bloated and inconsistent Choose Your Own Adventure menus | Mar 11 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 11 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Crapple never let anything get this overgrown | Mar 11 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://humphreybc.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/prefs.png | Mar 11 02:53 |
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| DaemonFC | Computer Janitor needs to have a companion called Menu Machete | Mar 11 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | you have to wonder how it can't immediately dawn on people the usability problems they're introducing | Mar 11 02:55 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Ubuntu is majorly hyped up by newbies | Mar 11 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and so a lot of them won't see what's bad in 10.04, when it comes out | Mar 11 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: they won't know that something is bad | Mar 11 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/health/policy/11health.html | Mar 11 03:00 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Mar 11 03:00 |
| sebsebseb | Mandriva does rather nice defaults for newbies, but also expereinced users, Ubuntu used to, but not anymore | Mar 11 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | punishing the insurance companies for blocking his healthcare reform | Mar 11 03:00 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: also their new branding has been made with Mac OS X :( | Mar 11 03:01 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Ubuntu isn't that bad the default install with a bit of customizing here and there, starting with 9.04 | Mar 11 03:02 |
| sebsebseb | anyway now that I know the features for 10.04, this is how I will do things, when it comes to recommending a distro to newbies | Mar 11 03:02 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: http://szotar.sztaki.hu/dict_search.php?L=ENG%3AHUN%3AEngHunDict&O=ENG&flash=&E=1&in_form=1&W=janitor&M=2&P=1&C=1&A=1&T=1 | Mar 11 03:03 |
| sebsebseb | if they use Facebook or Twitter or things like that, probably Ubuntu, becuse of the social features | Mar 11 03:03 |
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| sebsebseb | if not probably Mandriva, or some other distro | Mar 11 03:03 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I think it's good that Ubuntu One does not have an entry under Internet anymore | Mar 11 03:05 |
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| WireWulf | brb | Mar 11 03:15 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] RE: "The problem with bug reports (#403135 is a good exampe) is that they often go for months, or even years, without … http://disq.us/dk3kh | Mar 11 03:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Argh, not liking this disq.us thing automatically tweeting my responses. Switching that thing off. :-) | Mar 11 03:26 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10466670-16.html | Mar 11 03:27 |
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| DaemonFC | Is Canonical giving him crack or something? | Mar 11 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, If you read into that, Matt Asay is essentially admitting that Linux violates Microsoft patents | Mar 11 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | he then ties to cover for it by saying "But they also violate Linux patents" | Mar 11 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | *tries | Mar 11 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm trying to come up with a list of questions for one of the county council candidates. | Mar 11 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently our County Clerk has a website he uses for personal opinion about local government | Mar 11 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | and the country commissioners and our town mayor didn't like what people were saying about them in the comments | Mar 11 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | so they got in and disabled the comments section :) | Mar 11 03:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] is it possible to stream live (theora) video to html5 <video> tag? seems it doesn't work with a named pipe..any other idea? | Mar 11 03:57 | |
| DaemonFC | heh, the census | Mar 11 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm answering one question | Mar 11 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | "How many people live in your home?" | Mar 11 04:17 |
| Balrog | you have to answer all the questions | Mar 11 04:21 |
| Balrog | if you don't they'll send a census worker to your house | Mar 11 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | bullshit | Mar 11 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'll slam the door on them | Mar 11 04:22 |
| Balrog | then you'll get fined | Mar 11 04:22 |
| Balrog | census is serious stuff | Mar 11 04:22 |
| Balrog | be lucky you're not filling out the long form (they abolished it) | Mar 11 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'm only answering the question the Constitution requires | Mar 11 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | not telling them anything else | Mar 11 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | and I'd send their long form back with one question answered anyway | Mar 11 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | nobody has been fined over the census since the 1970s | Mar 11 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | and the $500 fine is if you lie to them on the form | Mar 11 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | refusing to respond at all is $100 | Mar 11 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | also, Balrog, The fact that the census taker is out doing census work doesn't exempt them from criminal trespass laws | Mar 11 04:26 |
| Balrog | true | Mar 11 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | should they refuse to leave | Mar 11 04:26 |
| Balrog | then again, census data is useful for people looking for family history information | Mar 11 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | if they won't leave, I'll call the cops | Mar 11 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | press trespassing charges | Mar 11 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | wouldn't that be amusing? | Mar 11 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, Nobody is going to be looking me up 100 years from now | Mar 11 04:28 |
| Balrog | okay then | Mar 11 04:28 |
| Balrog | though you never know :P | Mar 11 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | well, that generally requires me to be someone's ancestor, right? | Mar 11 04:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] insomnia is what you get at 4 am when you realize,waking up suddenly, that you forgot a meeting THIS night. | Mar 11 04:31 | |
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| GnuWulf | i am happy now :) | Mar 11 04:33 |
| Balrog | DaemonFC: either that | Mar 11 04:40 |
| Balrog | or something else | Mar 11 04:40 |
| Balrog | what if you're someone's uncle or something like that? | Mar 11 04:40 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm | Mar 11 04:47 |
| GnuWulf | wee ubuntu xD | Mar 11 04:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I subscribed to cappnational1867's channel on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/cappnational1867?feature=autoshare_twitter | Mar 11 05:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | Balrog, My great nephew in 100 years will want to know my ethnicity and religion | Mar 11 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | and how long my commute to work was? | Mar 11 05:09 |
| Balrog | the last one, probably not | Mar 11 05:09 |
| Balrog | but then again, in 1930 they asked who had a radio | Mar 11 05:09 |
| Balrog | that's perhaps useful information to a researcher | Mar 11 05:10 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | this looks like the same lawsuit that the States had against MS, but now class action in Canada B.C. http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Class+action+suit+targets+Microsoft+software/2663711/story.html | Mar 11 05:10 |
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| DaemonFC | but what about abuses? | Mar 11 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | like finding draft dodgers | Mar 11 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | and putting Japanese-Americans in concentration camps | Mar 11 05:10 |
| Balrog | did they have to use the census for that? | Mar 11 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | they did | Mar 11 05:11 |
| Balrog | what I'm asking is does the state have your information anywhere else? | Mar 11 05:11 |
| Balrog | the census is only one place to get it | Mar 11 05:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I thought a long time ago, that the States sueing MS for what the DOJ let them off for, was not over, because those lawsuites could happen as well in other countries | Mar 11 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://2010.census.gov/2010census/how/interactive-form.php | Mar 11 05:11 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Questions on the Form - 2010 Census .::. Size~: 21.21 KB | Mar 11 05:11 |
| Balrog | bah, adobe flash :X | Mar 11 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | #4, not answering | Mar 11 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | #3, not answering | Mar 11 05:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | could be exspensive for MS | Mar 11 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | #6 not answering | Mar 11 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | #7, not answering | Mar 11 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | #8, sure as hell not answering | Mar 11 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | #9, sure as hell not answering | Mar 11 05:13 |
| Balrog | this whole thing about asking for race twice | Mar 11 05:13 |
| Balrog | stupid | Mar 11 05:13 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://wirelessfederation.com/news/23078-consumers-demand-causes-abrupt-end-of-t-mobile-yahoo-deal/ | Mar 11 05:13 |
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| DaemonFC | Balrog, OK, 4 out of 10 | Mar 11 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | the rest are going to be blanks | Mar 11 05:14 |
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| Balrog | that's ok if that's what you want | Mar 11 05:14 |
| Balrog | I'd probably also answer 6 and/or 7 but it doesn't really matter than much, tbh | Mar 11 05:15 |
| Balrog | the race questions...meh | Mar 11 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | that's questionable | Mar 11 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | open for abuse | Mar 11 05:15 |
| Balrog | I know they want statistics, but yea there's huge potential for abuse there | Mar 11 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | at least they don't ask about religion this time | Mar 11 05:16 |
| Balrog | yea | Mar 11 05:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.independentmail.com/news/2010/mar/11/making-sense-mailings-fundraising-letters-not-us-c/ | Mar 11 05:23 |
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| DaemonFC | The Republicans are sending fake letters pretending to be from the census | Mar 11 05:24 |
| DaemonFC | as fundraising letters | Mar 11 05:24 |
| Balrog | wow really? | Mar 11 05:25 |
| GnuWulf | duh | Mar 11 05:25 |
| Balrog | do they ask questions? | Mar 11 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Mar 11 05:25 |
| Balrog | (I didn't get one...) | Mar 11 05:25 |
| Balrog | asking questions like that isn't exactly legal | Mar 11 05:26 |
| GnuWulf | mmhmm | Mar 11 05:26 |
| GnuWulf | maybe | Mar 11 05:26 |
| GnuWulf | who cares they know it anymore | Mar 11 05:26 |
| Balrog | well at least they don't go to those lengths around here | Mar 11 05:28 |
| Balrog | we have issues with incumbents around here ... be they democrats or republicans | Mar 11 05:29 |
| Balrog | they stay in office for too long, and then corruption takes place | Mar 11 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | we have issues with uncontested elections here | Mar 11 05:30 |
| Balrog | that's not good either | Mar 11 05:30 |
| Balrog | sometimes that takes place here | Mar 11 05:30 |
| Balrog | (as well) | Mar 11 05:30 |
| GnuWulf | i hate to say the south had it right 1x6 year term for preaent,1x8 congress, so on | Mar 11 05:30 |
| Balrog | it's more about the ablilty to run for re-election an unlimited number of times | Mar 11 05:30 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, The mayor is elected in an off year like the rest of the locals | Mar 11 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | so it's a crony election | Mar 11 05:32 |
| Balrog | ahhh. | Mar 11 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, I'm going to that meet and greet with one of the candidates for county council | Mar 11 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | hopefully bounce some ideas off of him | Mar 11 05:33 |
| Balrog | I see | Mar 11 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | I know he's a Republican, but he's a NEW one | Mar 11 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | and that's sad that this gives me hope | Mar 11 05:34 |
| Balrog | it's like that here | Mar 11 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, One of the issues I'm going to bring up is our over-dependence on Microsoft software | Mar 11 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | when our operating budget for the year is down $5 million | Mar 11 05:35 |
| Balrog | you may want to leave that for later, don't be ahead of yourself | Mar 11 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | well, they might be moving to MS Office 2010 this year | Mar 11 05:35 |
| Balrog | stay where he's comfortable for now | Mar 11 05:35 |
| DaemonFC | and I think that might run us around $30,000 or more | Mar 11 05:35 |
| Balrog | if you're going to talk about software, don't go to fast (in the conversation) | Mar 11 05:36 |
| Balrog | I see | Mar 11 05:36 |
| Balrog | do they really need to upgrade? I mean, 2007 works | Mar 11 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | They're on Office 2003 | Mar 11 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | there's been talks of upgrades | Mar 11 05:36 |
| Balrog | well moving to the ribbon interface ... would require re-training | Mar 11 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think they should be paying $30,000 for Office upgrades when they're firing people | Mar 11 05:36 |
| Balrog | me neither | Mar 11 05:37 |
| Balrog | better stay at 2003 | Mar 11 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | or OOo with the OOXML plug-in | Mar 11 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | if they do need OOXML | Mar 11 05:37 |
| Balrog | I know you might say 'move to openoffice' but that's not going to be free either (takes time to install, test, etc) ... though a lot less expensive than 2010 | Mar 11 05:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it handles about the same as MS Office 2003 | Mar 11 05:37 |
| Balrog | nothing that requires changes is free | Mar 11 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | and has OOXML support | Mar 11 05:38 |
| Balrog | yea | Mar 11 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | the state has a hardon for Microsoft | Mar 11 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | so we have to be MS compatible too | Mar 11 05:38 |
| Balrog | explain? | Mar 11 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | the state government likes to throw Microsoft formats around | Mar 11 05:38 |
| Balrog | well I don't care about writing OOXML, reading it is sufficient, isn't it? | Mar 11 05:38 |
| Balrog | ahhh | Mar 11 05:38 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, At one point, I had a website | Mar 11 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | I hosted state documents converted to PDFs | Mar 11 05:40 |
| Balrog | yea? | Mar 11 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, just common ones, like tax forms | Mar 11 05:40 |
| Balrog | tax forms weren't in PDF!? | Mar 11 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Mar 11 05:40 |
| Balrog | I mean, if you're going to print them consistently they'd better be | Mar 11 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | MS Office binary formats | Mar 11 05:40 |
| Balrog | wow | Mar 11 05:41 |
| Balrog | :[ | Mar 11 05:41 |
| Balrog | is that even legal? | Mar 11 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | apparently so | Mar 11 05:41 |
| Balrog | :[ | Mar 11 05:41 |
| Balrog | not everyone uses MS Office formats | Mar 11 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | they moved to PDF now | Mar 11 05:41 |
| DaemonFC | for a lot of stuff | Mar 11 05:41 |
| Balrog | there are plenty of people who have Macs and don't have Office, and TextEdit is just a basic editor (doesn't render doc/docx well) | Mar 11 05:42 |
| Balrog | I see | Mar 11 05:42 |
| Balrog | well they're finally catching up with the times | Mar 11 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | What made me laugh was Miguel de Icaza explaining why he likes OOXML | Mar 11 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | even though the version in Office 2007 is not ISO compliant | Mar 11 05:43 |
| Balrog | hahh | Mar 11 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | he never mentioned that | Mar 11 05:44 |
| Balrog | OOXML isn't even consistent across MS's own products | Mar 11 05:44 |
| Balrog | like Word for Windows vs. Word for Mac | Mar 11 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | in some ways, the binary documents were better | Mar 11 05:44 |
| DaemonFC | because they were more consistent | Mar 11 05:44 |
| Balrog | better than PDF? | Mar 11 05:45 |
| Balrog | ahh I get it | Mar 11 05:45 |
| Balrog | sorry | Mar 11 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 11 05:45 |
| Balrog | well yes, that's true | Mar 11 05:45 |
| Balrog | they were | Mar 11 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | better than OOXML | Mar 11 05:45 |
| Balrog | yea I agree | Mar 11 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | I played with my student copy of Office 2007 and hated it | Mar 11 05:45 |
| Balrog | I wonder how much the binary version changed from the early versions of word ... the ones that actually worked well | Mar 11 05:45 |
| Balrog | (4.x to 5.x for Mac) | Mar 11 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | the ODF wasn't 100% compatible with OOo's | Mar 11 05:46 |
| Balrog | before MS messed up with Word 6 for Mac | Mar 11 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | OOXML documents made with either suite wouldn't work well with the other | Mar 11 05:46 |
| Balrog | (which was made from the same codebase as Word 6 for Windows) | Mar 11 05:46 |
| Balrog | hah I see | Mar 11 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | OOo 3.2 is much better | Mar 11 05:46 |
| Balrog | known facts | Mar 11 05:46 |
| Balrog | yea | Mar 11 05:46 |
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| DaemonFC | there needs to be an OOo PPA for Ubuntu | Mar 11 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | the LTS editions anyway | Mar 11 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | OOo has been evolving faster than an LTS of Ubuntu is released | Mar 11 05:47 |
| Balrog | I think there is | Mar 11 05:47 |
| Balrog | I stopped using LTS | Mar 11 05:47 |
| Balrog | I'm using debian squeeze + some packages from sid now | Mar 11 05:48 |
| Balrog | (well mainly because ubuntu doesn't support the platform I'm using) | Mar 11 05:48 |
| sebsebseb | Balrog: What platform are you running? | Mar 11 05:49 |
| Balrog | that box? marvell sheevaplug | Mar 11 05:49 |
| sebsebseb | Balrog: the one Ubuntu won't work on? | Mar 11 05:49 |
| Balrog | it's an ARM chip with fewer features than the ARM version of ubuntu supports | Mar 11 05:49 |
| Balrog | yes | Mar 11 05:49 |
| Balrog | basically an SoC | Mar 11 05:50 |
| sebsebseb | yeah I meant the one Ubuntu won't work on, what are you running, anyyway I don't know what a sheevaplug or a SoC is | Mar 11 05:50 |
| Balrog | http://www.plugcomputer.org/ | Mar 11 05:50 |
| Balrog | SoC == system on a chip | Mar 11 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, YOu may try Lucid | Mar 11 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | they've really gone out of their way to support ARM | Mar 11 05:50 |
| sebsebseb | Balrog: system on a chip, you mean like uhmm well that instant on stuff | Mar 11 05:50 |
| sebsebseb | with newer computers | Mar 11 05:50 |
| Balrog | the last version of Ubuntu to support that ARM version is Intrepid | Mar 11 05:51 |
| sebsebseb | os's on mother board chips or whatever it was | Mar 11 05:51 |
| Balrog | umm no, sebsebseb | Mar 11 05:51 |
| Balrog | it's basically chipset, etc crammed into one IC | Mar 11 05:51 |
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| Balrog | like in a cellphone | Mar 11 05:51 |
| sebsebseb | IC??? | Mar 11 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, OOo 3.2 supports Office 2007 XML with no plugins needed | Mar 11 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | sweet! | Mar 11 05:51 |
| Balrog | integrated circuit | Mar 11 05:51 |
| Balrog | nice! | Mar 11 05:51 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: OOXML sucks | Mar 11 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | (in the sense that it's an easier sell to IT guys now I mean) | Mar 11 05:51 |
| Balrog | does, but if you need to read it | Mar 11 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, I mean exports it | Mar 11 05:52 |
| Balrog | ahh | Mar 11 05:52 |
| Balrog | can't you export to .doc? | Mar 11 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Mar 11 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | your choice | Mar 11 05:52 |
| Balrog | what do I run on it? http server, torrent client, instant messaging client, other services, and I do development on it | Mar 11 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | but the state may have a requirement for docx or odt | Mar 11 05:52 |
| Balrog | (the sheevaplug) | Mar 11 05:52 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: 3.2 is a version that has the Oracale thing in it, instead of Sun? | Mar 11 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | and no binary docs allowed | Mar 11 05:52 |
| Balrog | a requirement for ODT == no good | Mar 11 05:52 |
| Balrog | err, DOCX * | Mar 11 05:52 |
| Balrog | it's late, and I'm messing up a little :[ | Mar 11 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | Balrog, Massachusetts says agencies can use either as archival formats | Mar 11 05:53 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: About > Open Office | Mar 11 05:53 |
| Balrog | I wouldn't recommend docx | Mar 11 05:53 |
| Balrog | it's too inconsistent | Mar 11 05:53 |
| Balrog | archival format? PDF/A | Mar 11 05:53 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, copyright Sun | Mar 11 05:53 |
| Balrog | that's what I'd use, even ODT is too inconsistent | Mar 11 05:54 |
| sebsebseb | Balrog: PDF/A??? | Mar 11 05:54 |
| Balrog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A | Mar 11 05:54 |
| sebsebseb | PDF is the documetns don't need to be edited or maybe whatever this PDF/A is | Mar 11 05:54 |
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| Balrog | it's a standardized variant of PDF that is intended for archival purposes | Mar 11 05:54 |
| sebsebseb | and then iddeally ODT if they need to be edited :) | Mar 11 05:54 |
| Balrog | has fewer features than common PDF | Mar 11 05:55 |
| Balrog | yes | Mar 11 05:55 |
| sebsebseb | however way to many people using Microsoft Office still out there, that think it's fine and ok to send people .doc and so on | Mar 11 05:55 |
| Balrog | hah, they should all just use LaTeX | Mar 11 05:55 |
| Balrog | :) | Mar 11 05:55 |
| sebsebseb | gnu.org philosphey don't send word documents | Mar 11 05:55 |
| sebsebseb | Balrog: oh didn't know about that format | Mar 11 05:56 |
| Balrog | which one, LaTeX? | Mar 11 05:56 |
| sebsebseb | Balrog: no PDF/A | Mar 11 05:56 |
| Balrog | ahh | Mar 11 05:56 |
| Balrog | yea, stands for PDF/Archive | Mar 11 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | altough LaTex uhmm some sort of advanced desktop publishing type format or something | Mar 11 05:57 |
| Balrog | it's a typesetting format popular in the math and scientific community | Mar 11 05:57 |
| Balrog | invented by Donald Knuth | Mar 11 05:57 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Mar 11 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | they're planning to remove Synaptic Package Manager | Mar 11 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | it'll be available in the repository still | Mar 11 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | that's a planned change for Ubuntu 10.10 | Mar 11 05:59 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: they wanted to do that for 10.04 I think | Mar 11 05:59 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: well software cenre should be pretty good in 10.10 then | Mar 11 06:00 |
| wtf_ | http://www.apple.com/opensource/ | Mar 11 06:00 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Apple - Open Source .::. Size~: 90.41 KB | Mar 11 06:00 |
| sebsebseb | centre | Mar 11 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | center | Mar 11 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Mar 11 06:01 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: no centre :) | Mar 11 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Mar 11 06:01 |
| sebsebseb | centre :) | Mar 11 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | center | Mar 11 06:01 |
| sebsebseb | yes centre :) | Mar 11 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | my spell checker tells me you are wrong :) | Mar 11 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 11 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 06:01 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: my spell checker would say your wrong I expect | Mar 11 06:01 |
| sebsebseb | anyway en GB :) en US :( | Mar 11 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | well, spell checker death match | Mar 11 06:02 |
| sebsebseb | except for words such as store I guess | Mar 11 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | front and center even :) | Mar 11 06:02 |
| sebsebseb | store sounds more interesting than shop | Mar 11 06:02 |
| sebsebseb | or supermarket | Mar 11 06:02 |
| sebsebseb | altough I guess mart is used instead of supermarket? wallmart | Mar 11 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | where the hell did "Switch Off" become more correct than "Shut Down"? | Mar 11 06:02 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: in 10.04 you mean? | Mar 11 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 11 06:03 |
| DaemonFC | jono, Just so you know, I think ctrl-alt-del to bring up the task manager is a good idea. Automatix used to set it up that way for you if you wanted it to. | Mar 11 06:04 |
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| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: the switch off and shut down thing, is nothring compared to the window buttons on the left | Mar 11 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | those aren't the pain I thought they would be | Mar 11 06:04 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: quite a lot of people complained about that, since on left, but also in an odd order | Mar 11 06:05 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: quite a lot of people complaind about that, but my hopes aren't high for it being on the right in the correct order. | Mar 11 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | just fix it | Mar 11 06:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 06:05 |
| sebsebseb | quite easy to fix yeah | Mar 11 06:05 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: 10.04 was going to be nice and transparant apparnatly, but then no | Mar 11 06:06 |
| sebsebseb | instead these two new themes that aren't that nice at all | Mar 11 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | jono should also be aware of the inconsistency problems when you run QT apps and Audacious | Mar 11 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | and god knows what else | Mar 11 06:06 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: heh | Mar 11 06:06 |
| Balrog | what did wtf_ come in here for?? | Mar 11 06:06 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: except I don't think Jono has developed Ubuntu himself at all, but I am maybe wrong | Mar 11 06:06 |
| Balrog | yes, I know about that | Mar 11 06:06 |
| Balrog | (what he said) | Mar 11 06:06 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: he has made Lemid though, which is being used by Ubuntu people | Mar 11 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, I think he had something to do with the official book | Mar 11 06:07 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yes I think that's correct | Mar 11 06:07 |
| sebsebseb | that he helped with offical book | Mar 11 06:07 |
| sebsebseb | uh time here, I should be tired really, but no. well it's been over two years now when... | Mar 11 06:08 |
| sebsebseb | well even so, I am about to leave here | Mar 11 06:09 |
| sebsebseb | bye | Mar 11 06:09 |
| sebsebseb | bye | Mar 11 06:09 |
| GnuWulf | bye sebsebseb | Mar 11 06:11 |
| sebsebseb | GnuWulf: bye | Mar 11 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7715/screenshotqo.png | Mar 11 06:12 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 06:12 |
| Balrog | bye sebsebseb | Mar 11 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | I have the Mozilla PPA loaded | Mar 11 06:13 |
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| DaemonFC | this is a prerelease of Firefox 3.6.2 | Mar 11 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | that's why it calls itself Namaroka | Mar 11 06:13 |
| DaemonFC | I also have Minefield for 3.7, which is really unstable | Mar 11 06:14 |
| GnuWulf | this is me banging my head on a kb as i fucked something up again | Mar 11 06:14 |
| GnuWulf | lrljefefleflfeljfeqlefqeljqjfelqljfeljfe | Mar 11 06:14 |
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| GnuWulf | wail | Mar 11 06:19 |
| GnuWulf | i am off to ream land i guess | Mar 11 06:19 |
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| cubezzz | funny, people are talking longest lasting motherboard like 6 years | Mar 11 06:24 |
| cubezzz | this board I'm using is 12 years old | Mar 11 06:24 |
| GnuWulf | mines pretty old | Mar 11 06:25 |
| cubezzz | the circuit boards in my Joust machine are from 1983 and they work :) | Mar 11 06:26 |
| GnuWulf | & longest lasting w/ what os | Mar 11 06:27 |
| cubezzz | that's 27 years :) | Mar 11 06:27 |
| GnuWulf | my atari pong game xstill works | Mar 11 06:27 |
| GnuWulf | ik how old it is | Mar 11 06:27 |
| cubezzz | could be 35 years | Mar 11 06:27 |
| cubezzz | that's pre-cpu even | Mar 11 06:27 |
| cubezzz | but longest lasting OS in one computer would be FC1 | Mar 11 06:28 |
| cubezzz | no, wait | Mar 11 06:28 |
| cubezzz | ummm, Embedix 2001 | Mar 11 06:28 |
| cubezzz | so 9 years | Mar 11 06:28 |
| GnuWulf | cubezzz: no what os are thhese long lasting computers useing | Mar 11 06:29 |
| GnuWulf | a low stress os could make a computer last longer | Mar 11 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lubuntu | Mar 11 06:29 |
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| cubezzz | the Joust machine doesn't really have an OS | Mar 11 06:30 |
| cubezzz | it's just Intel 8085 machine code on eproms | Mar 11 06:30 |
| cubezzz | Embedix runs on my Zaurus SL-5500 which is ARM cpu | Mar 11 06:30 |
| cubezzz | it's really not the OS but the hard drive which dies on PCs | Mar 11 06:31 |
| cubezzz | maybe a flash memory storage computer could last longer? | Mar 11 06:32 |
| cubezzz | so yeah, lower temperatures = longer lasting | Mar 11 06:32 |
| cubezzz | less mhz | Mar 11 06:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/alltray/+bug/403135 | Mar 11 06:37 |
| GnuWulf | cubezzz: the stress on a cpu is a facter also | Mar 11 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | isn't this pretty? | Mar 11 06:37 |
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| GnuWulf | cubezzz: windows needs more fro the total hardware therefore speeds up the death of said hardware | Mar 11 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX | Mar 11 06:40 |
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| GnuWulf | linuxxx/unix/bsd need less in current states so use less | Mar 11 06:40 |
| GnuWulf | weil night | Mar 11 06:43 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] OK Go leaves EMI, launches their own record label http://ur1.ca/p3xj #awesome | Mar 11 07:07 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | wtf | Mar 11 07:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | I posted that over 8 hours ago | Mar 11 07:10 |
| *DaemonFC slipped the bot some ex lax chocolate | Mar 11 07:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Just deleted my Linkedin account. | Mar 11 07:20 | |
| Diablo-D3 | woah, linkedin is still around? | Mar 11 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, http://www.amazon.com/Corel-Linux-1-0-Deluxe-OS/dp/B00003PMTS/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1268291496&sr=1-15 | Mar 11 07:22 |
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| DaemonFC | there you go | Mar 11 07:22 |
| schestowitz | I's official. Manchester Police is ranked lowest in the country. We win at sucking. | Mar 11 07:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: niiiiiice | Mar 11 07:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: wtf | Mar 11 07:23 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Keep it up and don't let this get to you! Your website is still one of the most informative I know of. #BoycottNovell forever!" http://identi.ca/notice/24342073 | Mar 11 07:23 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Mandrake-OS-7-2-Complete/dp/B000051ZZM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1268291496&sr=1-9 | Mar 11 07:23 |
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| schestowitz | Context : "@schestowitz if they've got matt asay talking about you, you must be trouble :D" http://identi.ca/notice/24341855 | Mar 11 07:24 |
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| DaemonFC | do they ever delete anything? | Mar 11 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | Wordperfect Office 2000 | Mar 11 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeehaw | Mar 11 07:25 |
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| *DaemonFC is redacting a bank statement, yay | Mar 11 07:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @davidmackkabuki: New Printing of KABUKI Vol. 1 back in print! In stores today! At your local comic book shop. Just ask. | Mar 11 08:00 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patents Roundup: #Microsoft , #Apple , #Nokia , #Monsanto , #Pfizer , and #ACTA http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/11/pharma-and-acta/ | Mar 11 08:01 | |
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| cubezzz | what is SMDC I wonder | Mar 11 08:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Widening to business process and software patents has also been seen as an explanation for the increase in patents http://i5.be/aAW | Mar 11 08:11 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?title=bureaucrats-song&videoId=156361 | Mar 11 08:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @evilneuro: Another reason why the Daily Mail needs a good kicking; not just misinformed, but flat out lies: http://bit.ly/aTvxys | Mar 11 08:17 | |
| *DaemonFC just finished filling out forms for bureaucrats | Mar 11 08:17 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Salman Khan #math master of the #Internet http://ur1.ca/p6le and his videos are here http://ur1.ca/p6lh | Mar 11 08:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] With all the fame surrounding @muttoninn I am starting to think I will be forever known as 'Jono's Mum's Son' :-) | Mar 11 08:20 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Prior art in software patents not a meaningful screw, Amazon OneClick patent granted and validated by the USPTO: http://i5.be/aAX | Mar 11 08:28 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: US Patent Office Decides That One Click Really Is Patentable | Techdirt .::. Size~: 63.14 KB | Mar 11 08:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ALDE: Sophie In't Veld (D66, Netherlands) says Commission needs a mandate to negotiate ACTA: http://i5.be/aAY | Mar 11 08:32 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Did you notice that Ubuntu compromised their Firefox AppArmor profile to compensate for a defect in Java? | Mar 11 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | I believe I might have mentioned that already | Mar 11 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | still angers me that they would do that | Mar 11 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | In fact... | Mar 11 08:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Greens: Carl Schlyter: ACTA risks becoming known as the Absence of Commission Transparency Agreement: http://i5.be/aAZ | Mar 11 08:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] With your help, perhaps we can stamp out software patents in our lifetime! http://i5.be/aA0 | Mar 11 08:51 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: A patent was just issued for the Linked List no kidding! « Curts Comments .::. Size~: 26.83 KB | Mar 11 08:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] A good quality software patent is a dead one. | Mar 11 08:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The hosting company that MS is using for that howsoftwareisbuilt.com appears to mainly host porn sites and spammers | Mar 11 09:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] It's 'find your house on streetview' day at work this morning :) | Mar 11 09:08 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Tries to Destroy Online Competitors Rather Than Improve Its Own Products http://ur1.ca/p6tk #google #yahoo | Mar 11 09:08 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Tries to Destroy Online Competitors Rather Than Improve Its Own Products | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 98.54 KB | Mar 11 09:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft and Toyota http://ur1.ca/p6xc Where #Toyota 's problems intersect with #Microsoft 's #accident #failure #safety | Mar 11 09:18 | |
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| schestowitz | "A patent was just issued for the Linked List — no kidding!" | Mar 11 09:20 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Mar 11 09:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | I lol'd | Mar 11 09:21 |
| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/377774/ | Mar 11 09:23 |
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| DaemonFC | XFS is also getting a bunch of updates | Mar 11 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Would you believe that Slashdot front page can make just 2k pageviews? | Mar 11 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.sierrasun.com/article/20100310/NEWS/100319987/1066&ParentProfile=1051 | Mar 11 09:34 |
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| schestowitz | Meh. | Mar 11 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Slashdot has typically been fairly irreverent of anyone they post about | Mar 11 09:37 |
| schestowitz | No | Mar 11 09:39 |
| schestowitz | They used to have Slashdot effect | Mar 11 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Now a front pager there can drive as much traffic into a site like BN as a day of Google search | Mar 11 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | knocking whatever they linked to offline, yes | Mar 11 09:40 |
| schestowitz | What I'm trying to say is, tech site's reach is limited | Mar 11 09:40 |
| schestowitz | And decreasingly so | Mar 11 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Digg no longer airs many Linux stories, either | Mar 11 09:41 |
| schestowitz | And it's filled with celebs, politics, and utter junk | Mar 11 09:41 |
| schestowitz | That's where the market is | Mar 11 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | well, what about Microsoft stories? | Mar 11 09:41 |
| schestowitz | And these are people who like ADS | Mar 11 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | have those increased? | Mar 11 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Digg decided in 2007 that it would go beyond tech | Mar 11 09:41 |
| schestowitz | Many people knew what was coming then | Mar 11 09:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't know, let me check.. | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Justin Bieber!!! ZOMG!!!!!! ROFLCOPTER!!! | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 09:42 |
| schestowitz | Front page: http://digg.com/ | Mar 11 09:42 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 09:42 |
| schestowitz | Not tech | Mar 11 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It's people being idiots and filling it up with meaningless crap then | Mar 11 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | oh well | Mar 11 09:43 |
| schestowitz | about 15 stories about Microsoft in 12 days: http://digg.com/microsoft | Mar 11 09:43 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 09:43 |
| schestowitz | So not much, either | Mar 11 09:43 |
| schestowitz | Let's see Apple | Mar 11 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | looks what happened to Myspace | Mar 11 09:43 |
| schestowitz | Look at the low votes | Mar 11 09:43 |
| schestowitz | I don't know tech people who still use Digg to keep track of news | Mar 11 09:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but it's good for Digg | Mar 11 09:44 |
| schestowitz | They get a dumber audience that doesn't block ads | Mar 11 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | ads | Mar 11 09:44 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 11 09:44 |
| schestowitz | http://digg.com/apple | Mar 11 09:44 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 09:44 |
| schestowitz | In 5 days, about 15 front pages | Mar 11 09:44 |
| schestowitz | So it's still an Apple turf there | Mar 11 09:44 |
| schestowitz | Linux used to make the front page there 3-5 times per day | Mar 11 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | oh well, it's all about iPhone | Mar 11 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | so what? | Mar 11 09:45 |
| schestowitz | I once made 5 front pages in 1 day | Mar 11 09:45 |
| schestowitz | All Linux | Mar 11 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | backwash | Mar 11 09:45 |
| schestowitz | Whatever...... | Mar 11 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | the iPhone has a very small, very rabid following | Mar 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | http://techie-buzz.com/foss/booting-linux-one-second.html | Mar 11 09:46 |
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| DaemonFC | not many people have $500 to drop on the phone | Mar 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | There's no tech news site that I can recommend anymore | Mar 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | I came to realise this last month when somene asked | Mar 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: +subs | Mar 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | More like $1900 | Mar 11 09:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.co-optimus.com/article/3559/Steam_Coming_to_Mac_this_April.html | Mar 11 09:47 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Apple has always positioned themselves to appeal to people that want to say "I can have one and you can't" | Mar 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they're so expensive | Mar 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | This is nice: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/09/yellow_dog_linux_cuda/ | Mar 11 09:47 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's why they are niche | Mar 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | They can't get past a certain % | Mar 11 09:47 |
| schestowitz | You can see it in the ads | Mar 11 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but as a single PC maker, they have more sales than Dell | Mar 11 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | so they're not doing so bad | Mar 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | If they become cheap and ubiquitous, then elitists who follow this cult will lose appeal | Mar 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no | Mar 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | US only | Mar 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Don't be mislef | Mar 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Don't be misled | Mar 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Apple= US, CA, EU (West Europe only), Japan | Mar 11 09:48 |
| schestowitz | Oh, and Aussie | Mar 11 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | people who buy that stuff are out of their mind | Mar 11 09:49 |
| schestowitz | You won't find Apple in China, Argentina, Turkey, Russia, middle east, etc. | Mar 11 09:49 |
| schestowitz | Locales are poor too | Mar 11 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | you still see most any Apple user with a copy of Windows on their Mac | Mar 11 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | that's admitting that OS X has failed them | Mar 11 09:50 |
| schestowitz | Same with Linux | Mar 11 09:50 |
| schestowitz | Some Mac users buy MS office | Mar 11 09:50 |
| schestowitz | But they are OK with proprietary sw anyway | Mar 11 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | iWork is supposedly so awesome though | Mar 11 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | so why buy MS Office? :) | Mar 11 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | actually, iWork doesn't look too bad, I haven't used it though | Mar 11 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | MS Office is horrid | Mar 11 09:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple is the "not Microsoft" option; #GNU / #Linux is the "not user-hostile" option; which is more defensible? | Mar 11 09:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/PCLinuxOS-2010-Beta-1-released-949385.html | Mar 11 09:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: PCLinuxOS 2010 Beta 1 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.26 KB | Mar 11 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Give this one a go sometimes | Mar 11 09:53 |
| schestowitz | I used it last year and it was god | Mar 11 09:53 |
| schestowitz | *good | Mar 11 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They call their word processor "Pages" | Mar 11 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Flash out of the box let me use the Live CD to listen to music while working | Mar 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | and the spreadsheet program is "Numbers" | Mar 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | can you think of more uninspired names? | Mar 11 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Simple to remember | Mar 11 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Why is "Word" OK? | Mar 11 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Cause of habit? | Mar 11 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Word processor? | Mar 11 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Excel | Mar 11 09:54 |
| schestowitz | What does it even mean? | Mar 11 09:55 |
| schestowitz | To excel at *what*? | Mar 11 09:55 |
| schestowitz | PowerPoint I can see the logic of | Mar 11 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Although it's about slides | Mar 11 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Not pointing devices | Mar 11 09:55 |
| schestowitz | And there's no much power in it | Mar 11 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Powerful speakers use no slides | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | nobody should even think about the name of the application | Mar 11 09:55 |
| schestowitz | They can speak fluently and keep a train of thought | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | it should all just be generic | Mar 11 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | open your word processor and load this document | Mar 11 09:56 |
| schestowitz | ODF | Mar 11 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Document Format | Mar 11 09:56 |
| schestowitz | 'The' ODF | Mar 11 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, having so many formats leads to confusion | Mar 11 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Apple's naming scheme reminds me of The Invention Of Lying | Mar 11 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | the Coca Cola commercial | Mar 11 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | "It's really just brown water with some sugar in it, please keep drinking it" | Mar 11 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhtTU-guW60 | Mar 11 09:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Real advertisement of Coca Cola (From The Invention of Lying) .::. Size~: 108.42 KB | Mar 11 09:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | goddamnit | Mar 11 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know what pisses me off? | Mar 11 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can't use multiple selectors in css | Mar 11 10:05 |
| schestowitz | I don't drink those pops | Mar 11 10:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/200-freescale-tablet-runs-android-chromium-os-or-linux-09-03-2010/ | Mar 11 10:06 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: $200 Freescale Tablet Runs Android, Chromium OS or Linux | Geeky Gadgets .::. Size~: 26.94 KB | Mar 11 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Linux is dead on the desktop !!!!! | Mar 11 10:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, I want to use :after and :last-child at the same time | Mar 11 10:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-GeForce-Drivers-Linux-Solaris,9839.html | Mar 11 10:08 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Nvidia Pulls Linux, BSD, Solaris Drivers Due to Bug .::. Size~: 100.18 KB | Mar 11 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Never? | Mar 11 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | damn | Mar 11 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'd kill if I didn't get my caffeine somehow | Mar 11 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Linux.com shows a photo of two dudes http://ostatic.com/blog/wear-your-linux-pride-on-your-sleeve-linux-com-launches-new-store one says "fork you" | Mar 11 10:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Wear Your Linux Pride on Your Sleeve, Linux.com Launches New Store .::. Size~: 25.95 KB | Mar 11 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They fixed a bug I reported :) | Mar 11 10:10 |
| schestowitz | Do they want to fork Linux at the Linux Foundation? | Mar 11 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/352118 | Mar 11 10:11 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bug #352118 in wpasupplicant (Debian): “WPA writes possibly unnecessary messages to the system log” .::. Size~: 65.94 KB | Mar 11 10:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: no, just in recent years | Mar 11 10:11 |
| schestowitz | I drank that drek when sharing my fridge with others | Mar 11 10:11 |
| schestowitz | Now I get sugars (in the proper sense) from cereal meals and tea | Mar 11 10:11 |
| schestowitz | Sugar, not just carbs | Mar 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz | [10:10] <DaemonFC> I'd kill if I didn't get my caffeine somehow | Mar 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz | But you're hyperactive | Mar 11 10:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62247R20100303 "In March 2 story, corrects paragraph 16 to clarify that Packeteer, not Epicor, was acquired by Blue Coat. Epicor remains a standalone company" | Mar 11 10:13 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Corrected: Elliott offers to take Novell private for $2 billion| Reuters .::. Size~: 53.22 KB | Mar 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Yikes. Massive mistake. | Mar 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz | See? Even big 'news site' fail masisvely | Mar 11 10:13 |
| schestowitz | *sites | Mar 11 10:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | how do you even make a mistake like that | Mar 11 10:14 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/377895/46dc4fe20087d9f6/ | Mar 11 10:16 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 4K-sector drives and Linux [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 24.76 KB | Mar 11 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: published in a rush I bet, BUT....... | Mar 11 10:17 |
| schestowitz | As I wrote in BN, Reuters made a more massive mistake | Mar 11 10:17 |
| schestowitz | It corrected it quickly | Mar 11 10:17 |
| schestowitz | It said Novell WAS bought | Mar 11 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Not that it was just a bid | Mar 11 10:17 |
| schestowitz | I captured the old headline | Mar 11 10:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Leaving some feedback for the #bbc about their online offerings. UK-ers might want to too - *cough* get_iplayer http://bit.ly/6rpLtP | Mar 11 10:19 | |
| schestowitz | "Here is an incorrect headline which suggests that more bidders have already emerged (another one repeats Reuters’ mistake of suggesting it’s final)." | Mar 11 10:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC -BBC on-demand offerings .::. Size~: 21.22 KB | Mar 11 10:19 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/07/novell-imminent-sale/ | Mar 11 10:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats just nice | Mar 11 10:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Vulture Fund Still the Only Bidder for Novell | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 113.8 KB | Mar 11 10:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.liliputing.com/2010/03/asus-eee-box-eb202-with-linux-selling-for-190-at-newegg.html | Mar 11 10:20 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Asus Eee Box EB202 with Linux selling for $190 at Newegg .::. Size~: 24.95 KB | Mar 11 10:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im still waiting for under $200 freescale tablet | Mar 11 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Reuters covered up this mistake within hours | Mar 11 10:21 |
| schestowitz | No formal "CORRECTION" (apology) | Mar 11 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Boycott Novell rarely has to correct anything, maybe once in 500 posts | Mar 11 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Published 9,278 posts so far | Mar 11 10:22 |
| schestowitz | IT World Canada Video Library:Linux is the cloud’s future: IBM Canada http://video.itworldcanada.com/?bcpid=7044989001&bctid=71043172001 | Mar 11 10:24 |
| schestowitz | AIX will probably be dropped off | Mar 11 10:24 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What was Asay saying about you earlier? | Mar 11 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed he was talking to some Mono/Moonlight type | Mar 11 10:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Foundation-launches-Linux-com-Store-950523.html | Mar 11 10:29 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Linux Foundation launches Linux.com Store - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 33.41 KB | Mar 11 10:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't see the context | Mar 11 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Seems like some libellous suggestion from my haters | Mar 11 10:30 |
| schestowitz | That I use other identities, which I never did | Mar 11 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | Asay seems to have some agenda that I'm not quite picking up on | Mar 11 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | whether he's apathetic or looking to infect Ubuntu with crap, I don't know | Mar 11 10:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/31987/arm-50-tablets-in-2010 | Mar 11 10:31 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: ARM: Over 50 tablets will launch in 2010 - Pocket-lint .::. Size~: 37.84 KB | Mar 11 10:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: he admires Jobs | Mar 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | it could be scarier I guess | Mar 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | I think he doesn't mind just using BSD, Linux, whatever. | Mar 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | He's pro 'open core' nonsense | Mar 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Like Darwin+OS X | Mar 11 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | meaningless open source then | Mar 11 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Asay should not be fixated on admiring brands | Mar 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, his religious discourages iconification | Mar 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Though I don't know the Book or Mrmons | Mar 11 10:33 |
| schestowitz | *of *Mor | Mar 11 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | you think he's going to try to turn Ubuntu into something Linux based with a crust of proprietary crap that nobody else can use? | Mar 11 10:34 |
| schestowitz | When people become fans of something or someone, then it's like teenagers and celebrity idols | Mar 11 10:34 |
| schestowitz | They start thinking that some famous people are para-human | Mar 11 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | he's a Moron? | Mar 11 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | errr, Mormon, yes.... | Mar 11 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Not that it matters | Mar 11 10:34 |
| schestowitz | He's very polite | Mar 11 10:35 |
| schestowitz | I can't resent him and won't | Mar 11 10:35 |
| schestowitz | He's exceedingly gentle, but then again, many politicians who betray people are also polite and gentle | Mar 11 10:35 |
| schestowitz | It only makes them more effective at what they do. Ballmer by contrast...... | Mar 11 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Mar 11 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | Ballmer the Brute | Mar 11 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's why he amuses me | Mar 11 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, carbonated water by itself | Mar 11 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | I drink that sometimes | Mar 11 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, something about it | Mar 11 10:39 |
| schestowitz | 'A few of the t-shirts are really rather racy. For example, I'm not sure I'd wear the "Fork You" or "Let's Have Code Sex" t-shirts. There's also more mundane t-shirts and the like with slogans such as "Life, Linux and the Pursuit of Happiness." ' http://blogs.computerworld.com/15728/the_linux_foundation_store_linux_gets_silly | Mar 11 10:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Linux Foundation Store: Linux gets silly - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 131 KB | Mar 11 10:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: he's a frat boy, still | Mar 11 10:41 |
| schestowitz | But he also bullies | Mar 11 10:41 |
| schestowitz | Gates is equally a bully | Mar 11 10:41 |
| schestowitz | But he is more introvert | Mar 11 10:42 |
| indark | he is typical bully too http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Sun-threatened-by-Microsoft-Apple-over-patents/0,339028227,339301691,00.htm | Mar 11 10:42 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Sun threatened by Microsoft, Apple over patents - News - Builder AU .::. Size~: 57.11 KB | Mar 11 10:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsId=3214851 | Mar 11 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | indark: yes, I had that in mind | Mar 11 10:45 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/12/bill-gates-jihad-vs-linux/ | Mar 11 10:45 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bill Gates: “Where Are We on This Jihad?” (Against Linux at Intel) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 124.5 KB | Mar 11 10:45 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gates-Asked-for-IP-Royalties-for-OpenOffice-from-Sun-Microsystems-137090.shtml | Mar 11 10:45 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Gates Asked for IP Royalties for OpenOffice from Sun Microsystems - But got turned down - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.92 KB | Mar 11 10:45 |
| indark | they are hypocrite too on the malware thing http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Microsoft-re-releases-Blue-Screen-of-Death-fix-/0,339028227,339301534,00.htm | Mar 11 10:46 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft re-releases Blue Screen of Death fix - News - Builder AU .::. Size~: 53.11 KB | Mar 11 10:46 |
| indark | maybe they signed a deal with some botnets and sue others | Mar 11 10:48 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: see the first comment here http://blogs.ft.com/techblog/2010/03/schwartz-on-steve-jobs-bullying-tactics/ | Mar 11 10:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Schwartz on Steve Jobs bullying tactics | Tech Blog | FT.com .::. Size~: 62.92 KB | Mar 11 10:53 |
| schestowitz | indark: how so? | Mar 11 10:54 |
| indark | alureon rootkit conflicted with an update so they rereleased said update to be prevent installation if the rootkit is there | Mar 11 10:56 |
| indark | this is for xp machines | Mar 11 10:56 |
| indark | however i do know people who would want their computer to just work even if there were viruses trojans rootkits present | Mar 11 10:57 |
| indark | myself i would prefer a reformat | Mar 11 10:58 |
| oiaohm | indark: it was not only the rootkit the update was tripping over. | Mar 11 10:58 |
| zoobab_ | http://iviewit.tv/ | Mar 11 10:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Welcome to I-View-It ~ Pleased to Meet You, Won't You Guess My Name .::. Size~: 2407.47 KB | Mar 11 10:58 |
| zoobab_ | <- worth reading | Mar 11 10:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] George Osbourne. His performance in the first half of the radio 5 interview was woeful it made me cringe. | Mar 11 10:59 | |
| oiaohm | It was also tripping over some of the non signed drivers as well form other parties indark | Mar 11 10:59 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: re: "@schestowitz OIN and Peer2patent are both IBM's plans. The patent policy of the Linux Foundation is of the same, with the OSS as prior art" | Mar 11 10:59 |
| schestowitz | Not just IBM | Mar 11 10:59 |
| schestowitz | But IBM leading | Mar 11 10:59 |
| schestowitz | http://video.itworldcanada.com/?bcpid=7044989001&bctid=71043172001 | Mar 11 11:00 |
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| indark | oiaohm, workaround instead of fix | Mar 11 11:00 |
| oiaohm | The funny bit is the rootkit had a update out in 48 hours to make it invisable again. indark | Mar 11 11:01 |
| oiaohm | So the update installs as long as the newer verison of the rootkit is there. indark | Mar 11 11:01 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: wow! | Mar 11 11:02 |
| oiaohm | And remember this rootkit has its own autoupdate system. So by the time MS released the new update most of the old rootkit was gone. indark | Mar 11 11:02 |
| schestowitz | re iviewit | Mar 11 11:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The bell tolls for all those infinging on Iviewit's video scaling and image overlay systems patent rights: http://i5.be/aA5 | Mar 11 11:03 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: | Tech Blog | FT.com .::. Size~: 26.01 KB | Mar 11 11:03 |
| schestowitz | "By way of introduction, I am P. Stephen Lamont, former Acting CEO of Iviewit (counsel advised all Iviewit executives to resign their posts and work along side Iviewit rather than within Iviewit, as the former Board of Directors, Counsel and Accountants, disbanded without requisite notice to Shareholders in violation of law, thereby leaving massive liability and exposure) and a significant shareholder in Iviewit. " | Mar 11 11:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] George Osborne. His performance in the first half of the radio 5 interview was woeful it made me cringe. | Mar 11 11:04 | |
| indark | oiaohm, microsoft should have consulted rootkit coders more closely | Mar 11 11:04 |
| schestowitz | It comes across as a crackpot page | Mar 11 11:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] This site uses technologies that may or may not be protected by the USPTO and EPO: http://i5.be/aA6 | Mar 11 11:05 | |
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| oiaohm | This is the problem what is the point of a rootkit if people can find it simply. indark | Mar 11 11:05 |
| oiaohm | And there is big money in rootkits these days. indark | Mar 11 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9528/screenshote.png | Mar 11 11:10 |
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| DaemonFC | heh | Mar 11 11:10 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/3/10/google-facebook-sued-on-mobile-notworking/ | Mar 11 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&sid=acishqhFv2uc | Mar 11 11:12 |
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| indark | schestowitz, "IVIEWIT AMENDED COMPLAINT - ONE TRILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGES" you got to be kidding | Mar 11 11:18 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Mar 11 11:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Iviewit.tv, the website of a patent troll in video encoding: http://iviewit.tv/ worth reading, those guys shows the madness | Mar 11 11:21 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Don't let Murdoch win. Stop the cuts to the BBC - sign the petition now http://bit.ly/aXkqe2 #38degrees #savebbcasiannetwork #budgetbbc | Mar 11 11:34 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 38 Degrees | Stand up for the BBC - Stop the cuts .::. Size~: 13.22 KB | Mar 11 11:34 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Israel still thinks it is untouchable. http://is.gd/acsew | Mar 11 11:57 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Leading article: Israel shows what it really thinks -Leading Articles, Opinion - The Independent .::. Size~: 213.1 KB | Mar 11 11:57 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Return to Vermillion Sands! Time off booked, off to Perth next week for 1-2 wks. IS THERE ANYONE WHO COULD PLEASE LEND ME A CAR?? | Mar 11 11:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] On Windows today, just had the reverse #ubuntu issue, I expected the buttons in the top left :) | Mar 11 12:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @popey Just go "acquire" a copy of WindowBlinds and bog your PC down trying to make Windows not be ugly. Time honored tradition. :) | Mar 11 12:27 | |
| MinceR | how are you gentlemen !! | Mar 11 12:33 |
| oiaohm | Fine | Mar 11 12:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] My second day with Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Alpha 3: I'm impressed, it looks good, and has a couple of very handy new features. I Love it! | Mar 11 12:35 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] In Q for lunch.Asked co-worker if his food smelled okay.He bent down to sniff.I shoved his tray into his face! Nose bolognese! \o/ | Mar 11 13:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Played 'Alpine Crawler' on a friends iPhone. Not available on Android :( Love those kinds of games. | Mar 11 13:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR!!!! Yay!!!! | Mar 11 13:23 |
| *DaemonFC goes back to watching TV | Mar 11 13:23 | |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 11 13:23 |
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| DaemonFC | some OpenSuse fanboy said I was just saying Build Service would wreck your system cause I was in #boycottnovell | Mar 11 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | I told him I really think OpenSuse has improved a lot, Yast2 used to be slow, now it can flatten your system faster as soon as you enable some repositories so you can get on with life | Mar 11 13:39 |
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| MinceR | :> | Mar 11 13:47 |
| MinceR | there's still some hope for the EU: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/03/10/1449259/EU-Parliament-Rejects-ACTA-In-a-663-To-13-Vote | Mar 11 13:50 |
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| oiaohm | http://ostatic.com/blog/electronic-frontier-foundation-examines-stomps-on-iphone-developer-agreement schestowitz very good read. | Mar 11 14:01 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 11 14:09 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] www.hon-norge.net seems to be doing good to promote mumble as voice chat for the norwegian #hon community. | Mar 11 14:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/11/nick-clegg-praises-margaret-thatcher. Post election maneuvering starts. | Mar 11 14:37 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w_TE3yuGqw | Mar 11 14:46 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You wouldn't happen to know why my webcam goes all weird when I'm in KDE? | Mar 11 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | but it behaves normally when I'm in GNOME | Mar 11 14:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Writing an article about Lucid Lynx: Ubuntu Lucid: GNU/Linux made beautiful and average user friendly. | Mar 11 15:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, | Mar 11 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | oh schestowitz!!! | Mar 11 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | or MinceR perhaps | Mar 11 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, | Mar 11 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | dammit | Mar 11 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, | Mar 11 15:34 |
| MinceR | what's with the random hilite? | Mar 11 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | I need a picture defaced | Mar 11 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | hilariously defaced | Mar 11 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, it's already kind of there | Mar 11 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Captain's log. We received a signal from Somone on StarDate 11/03/10 15:08. Translated to English it stated: | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | > How the US is twice as dumb and sunk as Iceland. This article ignores US and UK culpability in the collapse of Icelandic banks, the most infamous being the abuse of UK anti-terrorist laws, but some of it is worth sharing. | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | > http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/10/news/international/iceland_debt.fortune/?section=magazines_fortuneintl | Mar 11 15:37 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Welcome to the United States of Iceland - Mar. 10, 2010 .::. Size~: 65.94 KB | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | > "[The $5.3 billion amount owed by Icelandic banks] sounds like a rounding error to Americans, but, per capita, it would be the equivalent of the United States taking on a $5 trillion debt. Sounds impossible, until you consider that our real bailout tab, as calculated by the New York Times, is already $2 trillion. Moreover, the government has obligated itself to pay out $12.5 trillion if things get worse." | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | > "... in a referendum there this past weekend,only 1.8% of voters favored a plan to pay back the $5.3 billion Iceland owes .. In our democracy, we didn't have that choice. From Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson's ramming of TARP through Congress, to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's decision to abandon subtlety and mainline dollars into bank balance sheets, even our presidential election had little impact on our government's | Mar 11 15:37 |
| schestowitz | deployment of huge amounts of capital to save our obese banking system." | Mar 11 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Can you deface a picture for me if I shut up about who did it? | Mar 11 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | possibly, maybe? | Mar 11 15:37 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 11 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC:send it over | Mar 11 16:03 |
| schestowitz | photobucket | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > March 11 2010 | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > Dear Mr Schestowitz | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | > I would like to invite you to contribute to the second annual WTR Global Trademark Survey | Mar 11 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3571/1441235071971134.png | Mar 11 16:04 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Now, why would I care about trademark? Someone seems to have put me in a mass-mail list | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Of some PR junk | Mar 11 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Mar 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Let's work on the photo | Mar 11 16:05 |
| MinceR | who's that guy? | Mar 11 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | maybe the ballmer tongue thing, that never gets old | Mar 11 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | but it's kind of an in joke | Mar 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | They made him look so soft | Mar 11 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | so who knows? | Mar 11 16:05 |
| schestowitz | I need to make him angry before I deface | Mar 11 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The mayor | Mar 11 16:05 |
| MinceR | the mayor of which settlement? | Mar 11 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | Absurdistan, Indiana | Mar 11 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | (Huntington) | Mar 11 16:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 11 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, http://www.urbanindiana.com/in_huntington/huntington_in.html | Mar 11 16:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: huntington, indiana - may 12,2008 .::. Size~: 7.95 KB | Mar 11 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | se our crumbling downtown | Mar 11 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | due to the Walmart 2 miles to the north | Mar 11 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | yet they still find money to decorate the courthouse with marble | Mar 11 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | unbelievable huh? | Mar 11 16:12 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: doesn't look bad at all to me | Mar 11 16:12 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/1441235071971134.png | Mar 11 16:12 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 16:12 |
| MinceR | but that could be because i'm not that used to the look of usian settlements | Mar 11 16:12 |
| schestowitz | No more Mr. Nice Guy | Mar 11 16:13 |
| schestowitz | And it still looks realistic | Mar 11 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, those buildings are mostly from the 1800s | Mar 11 16:13 |
| schestowitz | "usian settlements?" | Mar 11 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Good enough to last on Wikipedia | Mar 11 16:13 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: cities, towns, villages, etc. in the usa | Mar 11 16:13 |
| schestowitz | what's his name? | Mar 11 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Steve Updike | Mar 11 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.urbanindiana.com/in_huntington/20080512-094.jpg | Mar 11 16:15 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | catholic church | Mar 11 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Nice photos of the nice by the way | Mar 11 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Crap page design | Mar 11 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Up a dyke? | Mar 11 16:15 |
| MinceR | i don't think this page design is bad at all | Mar 11 16:15 |
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| MinceR | readable with pleasant colors, no bloat | Mar 11 16:15 |
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| MinceR | much better than most of the web today | Mar 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no bloat? | Mar 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | See bandwidth... | Mar 11 16:16 |
| MinceR | i don't see any bloat on that urbanindiana.com page | Mar 11 16:16 |
| MinceR | bandwidth is needed to get the pictures anyway, isn't it? :> | Mar 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | All the photos were taken in noon time, on days without a single cloud | Mar 11 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Mar 11 16:16 |
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| schestowitz | Pagination can help unless it fetches one image at the time | Mar 11 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Some pages would have browser load fragments of images at the same time | Mar 11 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Rather than do, say... 3 at a time | Mar 11 16:17 |
| schestowitz | BN will feature a Steve Updike later | Mar 11 16:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] We need more open data around the world http://ur1.ca/otk2 | Mar 11 16:18 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Tim Berners-Lee: The year open data went worldwide | Video on TED.com .::. Size~: 44.22 KB | Mar 11 16:18 |
| schestowitz | To make use of the photo at least | Mar 11 16:18 |
| schestowitz | It'll also put him in Google Images | Mar 11 16:18 |
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| MinceR | pagination also means having to click a lot and more trouble with fetching/saving all the images | Mar 11 16:18 |
| schestowitz | His kids will be Google and, "wtf? That's not daddy1!!" | Mar 11 16:18 |
| MinceR | so there's a tradeoff :) | Mar 11 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Mar 11 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.urbanindiana.com/in_fw/in_fw_2008/in_fw_20080201.html | Mar 11 16:19 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: fort wayne pre-dawn snow 2008 .::. Size~: 4.08 KB | Mar 11 16:19 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.urbanindiana.com/in_fw/in_fw_allen_co_ch/in_fw_allen_co_ch.html | Mar 11 16:21 |
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| DaemonFC | the prettier ones are on the bottom | Mar 11 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.urbanindiana.com/in_indianapolis/indpls_greenways.html | Mar 11 16:23 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Indianapolis> .::. Size~: 2.05 KB | Mar 11 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | white river state park | Mar 11 16:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] With the increased filing of patent infringement actions in the Eastern District of Texas, the firm has expanded http://i5.be/aBb | Mar 11 16:40 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Patent attack hits Apple, RIM, AT&T, Moto... • The Register .::. Size~: 29.52 KB | Mar 11 16:40 |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | Mar 11 16:40 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, ping | Mar 11 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Updike | Mar 11 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | thanks | Mar 11 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/43754#comment-13118 "He should not get upset over this. "MG" has been working for Microsoft for years (sometimes on the payroll directly) and doing the anti-GNU/Linux at least once a year" http://blog.eracc.com/2010/03/09/gnulinux-rebuttal-linux-on-the-desktop-still-not-happening/ | Mar 11 16:51 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Rebuttal: Linux on the desktop: Still not happening | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 31.5 KB | Mar 11 16:51 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: don't vandalise Wikipedia | Mar 11 16:51 |
| schestowitz | I thought you were gonna do a blog | Mar 11 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | crap | Mar 11 16:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] New Blog Post: "Why (I think) Ubuntu is Better Than Windows" http://bit.ly/cPPWyO :) | Mar 11 16:52 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Why (I think) Ubuntu is Better Than Windows | popey.com blog .::. Size~: 47.55 KB | Mar 11 16:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=Steve+Updike&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Mar 11 16:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Steve Updike - Google Search .::. Size~: 26.82 KB | Mar 11 16:53 |
| schestowitz | #1 result. | Mar 11 16:53 |
| schestowitz | You're complaining about Wikipedia but then it's YOU who vandalises it | Mar 11 16:53 |
| Ender2070 | what did he do | Mar 11 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | everything's under control | Mar 11 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Updike | Mar 11 16:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Steve Updike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 22.03 KB | Mar 11 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | see | Mar 11 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | no worries | Mar 11 16:57 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Carlos Slim now richest man alive, and I wish he'd donate to me a tiny fraction of his vast wealth http://ur1.ca/p842 | Mar 11 16:57 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Story | Bill Gates No Longer World's Richest Man .::. Size~: 135.63 KB | Mar 11 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | Bll Gates hasn't been for a while | Mar 11 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | *Bill | Mar 11 16:58 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: the iviewit dude could have arsenal of weapons like Gregory the arrested troll (or patent holder feeding trolls) | Mar 11 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: pong | Mar 11 16:58 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, hey | Mar 11 16:59 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Did Moody respond to you? | Mar 11 16:59 |
| Ender2070 | xchat author told me he ports the windows version to linux | Mar 11 17:02 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] So when can we just outlaw school administrators altogether? http://ur1.ca/p8m5 | Mar 11 17:02 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: no he has been | Mar 11 17:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was warren buffet, with bill as #2 | Mar 11 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: yes | Mar 11 17:05 |
| schestowitz | He didn't get the reference | Mar 11 17:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | then bill came back | Mar 11 17:05 |
| schestowitz | So I gave up, didn't reply to him | Mar 11 17:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | with carlos as #3 both times | Mar 11 17:05 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I see. | Mar 11 17:05 |
| schestowitz | It's not important | Mar 11 17:06 |
| schestowitz | He does a lot to expose BillG too | Mar 11 17:06 |
| schestowitz | Monsanto for one thing | Mar 11 17:06 |
| Ender2070 | hey roy | Mar 11 17:10 |
| Ender2070 | lol now you can say "Dammit Jim, i'm a doctor not a pool boy" | Mar 11 17:11 |
| schestowitz | Jim? | Mar 11 17:12 |
| schestowitz | placeholder? | Mar 11 17:12 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Mar 11 17:13 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't matter | Mar 11 17:13 |
| schestowitz | They always find new smears and lies | Mar 11 17:13 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Mar 11 17:13 |
| Ender2070 | one guy was accusing you of being a FSF, Google, and etc front because you have adbard | Mar 11 17:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.daniweb.com/news/story266427.html Google's Slow March Toward World Domination | Mar 11 17:14 |
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| schestowitz | You're JustaMicrosoftHater{TM} | Mar 11 17:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know what | Mar 11 17:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said the other day | Mar 11 17:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | google is the most evil company ever | Mar 11 17:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im totally fine with it | Mar 11 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Ah, the Google thing | Mar 11 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Some Alex Jones fans cussed at me from afar from defending them from Microsoft attack | Mar 11 17:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | google makes my life more efficient | Mar 11 17:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: ever realize how evil google is? | Mar 11 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Apparently, the prisonplanet/info'war' crowd thinks GOogle=CIA | Mar 11 17:15 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 17:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're making all current forms of evil obsolete | Mar 11 17:15 |
| schestowitz | The RMS haters distort it too | Mar 11 17:15 |
| schestowitz | For example | Mar 11 17:15 |
| schestowitz | RMS says CIA can use Facebook data | Mar 11 17:15 |
| Ender2070 | its funny cause its more likely alex jones = cia | Mar 11 17:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | the CIA _does_ use Facebook data, btw | Mar 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | They say RMS claims it to be a CIA front | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is documented and admitted fact | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | but guess what? | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt matter! | Mar 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | RMS weighs in on pedophilia in Holand | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | the CIA simply doesnt care about the stupid shit | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Ender2070 | why wouldn't the CIA want to know who all your friends are? | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | they just want terrorists | Mar 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | The RMS haters then accuse RMS of pedophelia | Mar 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | RMS defends gay rights | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ender2070: they already do without facebook if they wanted to | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Ender2070 | yes | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Ender2070 | i know | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Ender2070 | it just makes it faster | Mar 11 17:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean, Im against big brother and all | Mar 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | The anti-RMSer wrongly deduce from this that he's gay | Mar 11 17:16 |
| schestowitz | He's not | Mar 11 17:17 |
| Ender2070 | same with ancestry.com | Mar 11 17:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | but the government knowing a fair bit of information ISNT BAD | Mar 11 17:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | there _are_ things the government does well | Mar 11 17:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | including bombing the shit out of nasty assholes in other countries | Mar 11 17:17 |
| schestowitz | I guess to kee the gay stigma alive I should curse and beat them up to, to 'prove' my heterosexuality | Mar 11 17:17 |
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| MinceR | actually it is bad | Mar 11 17:17 |
| MinceR | all current governments are corrupt | Mar 11 17:17 |
| MinceR | the more power they get the more power they abuse | Mar 11 17:17 |
| schestowitz | [17:15] <Ender2070> its funny cause its more likely alex jones = cia | Mar 11 17:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, including bombing random countries to get more oil fields for yourself | Mar 11 17:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'm actually for bombing the shit out of saudi arabia for suppressing regional human and women's rights and for interfering with the US government | Mar 11 17:18 |
| schestowitz | I have a friend who said that | Mar 11 17:18 |
| schestowitz | That he is their "Controlled opposition" | Mar 11 17:18 |
| Ender2070 | a lot of people do | Mar 11 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Sink for loons | Mar 11 17:18 |
| Ender2070 | he has masonic ties | Mar 11 17:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | it may be not quite what our founding fathers intended | Mar 11 17:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | but it really is the US mandate to spread freedom and demoracy | Mar 11 17:18 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: are you also for bombing the shit out of the USA for suppressing human rights and interfering with other governments? | Mar 11 17:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: only on even days. | Mar 11 17:19 |
| MinceR | it might be the propaganda, but "spreading freedom and democracy" is far from what jesusland does now | Mar 11 17:19 |
| Ender2070 | most of the conspiracy stuff out there is controlled opposition | Mar 11 17:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: the US has more internal problems than external | Mar 11 17:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not this Big Bad (tm) people like to claim it is | Mar 11 17:19 |
| Ender2070 | they have a conspiracy for every personality type | Mar 11 17:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's known as "self-nuke" | Mar 11 17:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | its, rather, several dozen Big Bads duking it out | Mar 11 17:19 |
| schestowitz | self-duke? | Mar 11 17:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | the US government is never under control of any single Big Bad long enough to get anything done | Mar 11 17:20 |
| MinceR | or rather the illusion of Big Bads duking it out | Mar 11 17:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | evil people hate other evil people | Mar 11 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Big=good | Mar 11 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Small=bad | Mar 11 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Organised=benevolent | Mar 11 17:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | even the Bush Administration spent a significant amount of their time defending themselves against people just as evil | Mar 11 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Crowdsurced=terrorists | Mar 11 17:20 |
| schestowitz | Big boat=passengers | Mar 11 17:21 |
| Ender2070 | i dont agree | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Dingy=pirates | Mar 11 17:21 |
| Ender2070 | each new president carries on from the last | Mar 11 17:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | white people=find | Mar 11 17:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | black people=loot | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Left is right | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Right it wrong | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Small is bad | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Big is good | Mar 11 17:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | "left is right, right is wrong" | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Good is strong | Mar 11 17:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh thats so awesome | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Strong is wealthy | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | Wealthy is corrupt | Mar 11 17:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | Absolute power corrupts absolutely. | Mar 11 17:21 |
| schestowitz | But we adore and glamorise corrupt people | Mar 11 17:21 |
| MinceR | war is peace | Mar 11 17:22 |
| Ender2070 | they make wealthy corrupt people our heros | Mar 11 17:22 |
| MinceR | freedom is slavery | Mar 11 17:22 |
| MinceR | ignorance is strength | Mar 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes | Mar 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | That's my point | Mar 11 17:22 |
| Ender2070 | its all perception | Mar 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Icahn, et al | Mar 11 17:22 |
| Ender2070 | thats culture creation | Mar 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Even Buffett does evil | Mar 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Like Singer | Mar 11 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Feeding to the tigers small business, AFAIK | Mar 11 17:23 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 17:23 |
| Ender2070 | im really glad my high school had a class on media | Mar 11 17:23 |
| schestowitz | http://onlythesuperrich.org/ | Mar 11 17:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] This looks like fun: Star Wreck Roleplaying Game http://www.scribd.com/doc/241262 | Mar 11 17:24 | |
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| Ender2070 | lol that reminds me | Mar 11 17:25 |
| Ender2070 | Ted Turner invented Captain Planet | Mar 11 17:25 |
| Ender2070 | a cartoon full of pure propaganda and even earth worship | Mar 11 17:25 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXM9bj-WPU | Mar 11 17:26 |
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| Ender2070 | i used to watch that show | Mar 11 17:27 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 17:27 |
| Ender2070 | i even had some of the toys | Mar 11 17:28 |
| Ender2070 | the action figures came with power rings | Mar 11 17:28 |
| MinceR | one ring to rule them all | Mar 11 17:28 |
| Ender2070 | interesting | Mar 11 17:32 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.chrisbrunner.com/2006/09/21/banned-the-golden-book-of-chemistry-experiments/ | Mar 11 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/fedora-13s-artwork-need-your-help-for-f13-beta/ | Mar 11 17:37 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Fedora 13s Artwork Need Your Help for F13 Beta! « MáirÃn Duffy .::. Size~: 68.33 KB | Mar 11 17:37 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] OMG? WTF? :D | Mar 11 17:37 | |
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| Ender2070 | oh very nice | Mar 11 17:39 |
| Ender2070 | thats based on that recent event | Mar 11 17:40 |
| Ender2070 | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/12/09/awesomely-bizarre-light-show-freaks-out-norway/ | Mar 11 17:40 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Awesomely bizarre light show freaks out Norway | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine .::. Size~: 394.29 KB | Mar 11 17:40 |
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| Ender2070 | people have been speculating all sorts of wacky things for that event | Mar 11 17:41 |
| Ender2070 | from aliens to secret government portal technology | Mar 11 17:42 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe | Mar 11 17:43 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 17:43 |
| schestowitz | It was just Fedora marketing | Mar 11 17:43 |
| schestowitz | It succeeded | Mar 11 17:43 |
| Ender2070 | yeah but thats one of their concepts | Mar 11 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Went viral | Mar 11 17:43 |
| Ender2070 | see the filename? | Mar 11 17:43 |
| Ender2070 | F13-concept-rocketskytrails2.jpg | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | No. | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm... I get strange mail: | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | > I installed tomboy and it installed MONO. I uninstalled tomboy, how do | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | > I make sure MONO isn't contaminating my machine ? | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | > sudo apt-get install tomboy | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | > sudo apt-get --purge remove tomboy | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Remove mono too, not just tomboy. Latest ubuntu has other mono dependents. | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Am I mono helpdesk now? | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | See what Microsoft is doing? | Mar 11 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Rather than installing stuff, people obsess over what bombs to remove | Mar 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | "Yay! I got my OS installed..." | Mar 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | "Next.... I need to remove land mines" | Mar 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | [as it should be] | Mar 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Like Microsoft "Craplets" | Mar 11 17:45 |
| Ender2070 | and then its like | Mar 11 17:45 |
| schestowitz | Remove trial versions of stuff and bloat too | Mar 11 17:45 |
| Ender2070 | "Well you can't complain, the landminds are free" | Mar 11 17:45 |
| Ender2070 | "Canonical is just trying to make some return on this" | Mar 11 17:46 |
| Ender2070 | landmines* | Mar 11 17:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/030410-rsa-cloud-security-warning.html?fsrc=netflash-rss | Mar 11 17:47 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Former NSA tech chief: I don't trust the cloud .::. Size~: 78.65 KB | Mar 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | "Mommy, what is 'cloud'?" | Mar 11 17:47 |
| Ender2070 | you know | Mar 11 17:47 |
| schestowitz | "It's just fog computing, sweetheard... a computer with a wire..." | Mar 11 17:48 |
| Ender2070 | the clouds they make with chemtrails | Mar 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | *heart | Mar 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.electricnet.com/article.mvc/IEEE-To-Hold-Southeastcon-2010-Energizing-0001?VNETCOOKIE=NO | Mar 11 17:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Your Interview With Prime Minister Harper - Canadian Politics and YouTube http://bit.ly/av1Rgs | Mar 11 17:48 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: IEEE To Hold Southeastcon 2010 - Energizing Our Future On March .::. Size~: 19.8 KB | Mar 11 17:48 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Your Interview With Prime Minister Harper « Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 86.39 KB | Mar 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/37488-canonical-speaks-to-the-commercial-debate | Mar 11 17:48 |
| schestowitz | jono: you guys play along with BillG | Mar 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | The whole "commerical" misinformation | Mar 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | The words are proprietary vs Free | Mar 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Free software is always "commercial" | Mar 11 17:49 |
| MinceR | well, not always, but often | Mar 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | My shell scripts too are also commercial | Mar 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | I can use them in commerce if I choose to | Mar 11 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judean_date_palm&oldid=22814298 | Mar 11 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's some npov for you | Mar 11 17:50 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 11 17:50 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/23/bill-gates-mocks-gpl/ | Mar 11 17:50 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bill Gates Mocks Free Software by Substituting “Proprietary” With “Commercial” | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 130.78 KB | Mar 11 17:50 |
| MinceR | does varghese always attack the FLOSS community this vehemently? | Mar 11 17:50 |
| schestowitz | No. | Mar 11 17:50 |
| schestowitz | He's FLOSS | Mar 11 17:50 |
| schestowitz | He says what other people are too shy/dumb to say | Mar 11 17:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: stop cyberbullying your mayor | Mar 11 17:51 |
| MinceR | oh, i think i read too fast | Mar 11 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, With a 2005 edit of the judean date palm article? | Mar 11 17:51 |
| MinceR | my bad :) | Mar 11 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | it died out around the birth of Christ you know | Mar 11 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | Wikipedia said this | Mar 11 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 17:52 |
| schestowitz | Christ? | Mar 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | has he an article too? | Mar 11 17:53 |
| MinceR | probably | Mar 11 17:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] I subscribed to TalkCanada's channel on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/TalkCanada?feature=autoshare_twitter | Mar 11 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | Does Santa have one? | Mar 11 17:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- TalkCanada's Channel .::. Size~: 52.36 KB | Mar 11 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What did Microsoft do to undermine cable and DSL pricing? | Mar 11 17:53 |
| MinceR | probably | Mar 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Oh yeah... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa | Mar 11 17:53 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Santa Claus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 196.18 KB | Mar 11 17:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | man | Mar 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Do we know if he existed? | Mar 11 17:53 |
| MinceR | yes, all sorts of imaginary people have WP pages | Mar 11 17:53 |
| schestowitz | "Santa Claus, also known as Saint Nicholas,[1] Sinterklaas, Father Christmas, Kris Kringle or simply "Santa", is a legendary figure who, in many Western cultures, brings gifts to the homes of the good children during the late evening and overnight hours of Christmas Eve, December 24[2] or on his Feast Day, December 6 (Saint Nicholas Day).[3]" | Mar 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | You know who else is a legendary figure? | Mar 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | Jesus | Mar 11 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, What about Kwanzaa Claus? | Mar 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | He had a dozen followers | Mar 11 17:54 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 11 17:54 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: is he notable? :> | Mar 11 17:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: welcome to south park. | Mar 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | And he -- among many people like him -- came back from the dead and flew | Mar 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | To the Sun | Mar 11 17:54 |
| schestowitz | There are Greek myths like this | Mar 11 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No Kwanzaa in Hungary? | Mar 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | There is no evidence of his place of birth in biblical writings | Mar 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | That only existed after his death (I mean, resurrection) | Mar 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | Like "Mary's Well" | Mar 11 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, How is Kwanzaa not racist? | Mar 11 17:55 |
| schestowitz | If he had kids, then we have his DNA | Mar 11 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | If we had a day or six to celebrate all the joys of being white, they'd be fucking pissed | Mar 11 17:56 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: not sure | Mar 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | ~2000 years ~= 120 generations | Mar 11 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | calling us Nazis and skinheads and Republicans | Mar 11 17:56 |
| schestowitz | 2^120 | Mar 11 17:56 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: hungary is part of a global culture (and that's a good thing) | Mar 11 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Any sectarian violence, revenge killings, gangs? | Mar 11 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | that's usually what it brings | Mar 11 17:57 |
| MinceR | not sure | Mar 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | revenge killings? | Mar 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | I think most killings are like that | Mar 11 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yes | Mar 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Unless you hire someone to do it | Mar 11 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Not really | Mar 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Like soldiers sent to Iraq | Mar 11 17:57 |
| MinceR | that can still be revenge | Mar 11 17:57 |
| schestowitz | There's motive | Mar 11 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | I could shoot, stab, bludgeon you for the money in your wallet | Mar 11 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | that's not revenge | Mar 11 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Motive is retaliation or precaution | Mar 11 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | I could kill you for no reason at all, that's not revenge | Mar 11 17:58 |
| schestowitz | precaution is when you assume s/he will hurt/kill you in the future, so you revenge proactively | Mar 11 17:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: would you? | Mar 11 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | if I was pretty sure they'd make they would come after me eventually? | Mar 11 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | maybe | Mar 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | People who shoot their class do so in revenge for treatment they think they got | Mar 11 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | what about you? | Mar 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | So it's a form of revenge | Mar 11 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | errr | Mar 11 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | pretty sure they would | Mar 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Troops in Iraq mostly think they retaliate for 9/11 | Mar 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Ask them | Mar 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | They were indoctroniated | Mar 11 17:59 |
| schestowitz | Some were made so racist so as not just to believe Iraq sent the crashers but also that "all Arabs are the same" and being racist is OK | Mar 11 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | conflicting belief systems cause problems | Mar 11 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | trying to artificially fabricate mixed neighborhoods begs for crime | Mar 11 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Not always | Mar 11 18:00 |
| schestowitz | But it's in our DNA to make cliques | Mar 11 18:00 |
| schestowitz | Like animals, apes, wolves, etc. | Mar 11 18:00 |
| MinceR | rational thought can overcome instincts | Mar 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Let's argue over logic | Mar 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Not deities | Mar 11 18:01 |
| MinceR | and it should be promoted | Mar 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | No books that say we should slay gay people | Mar 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I think | Mar 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | But some people still serve lower down the classes | Mar 11 18:01 |
| schestowitz | Bringing delusions to them has historically been the way to appease | Mar 11 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, And there's just so much rational thought out there...why if the world was any more rational, I don't know what I.......oh right :P | Mar 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | As in, "sure, I stomp on you, but when you get the 'blessing' of death you'll have 72 virgins and rivers of wine" | Mar 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | IOW, "look forward to dying" | Mar 11 18:02 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: there's too little of it out there, and that should be changed | Mar 11 18:02 |
| schestowitz | "In the mean time, work like a dog" | Mar 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Or mule, or whatever | Mar 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Monkeys have envy | Mar 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | There were experiments done on it | Mar 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | If one primate is rearded more than other, then the part of the brain associated (empirically) with envy gets active | Mar 11 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Ha. http://ostatic.com/blog/why-canonical-should-imitate-apples-early-playbook | Mar 11 18:05 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Why Canonical Should Imitate Apple's Early Playbook .::. Size~: 28.96 KB | Mar 11 18:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Download PopSci for free http://www.popsci.com/archives Free / #OpenAccess wins | Mar 11 18:07 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Search the PopSci Archives | Popular Science .::. Size~: 57.44 KB | Mar 11 18:07 |
| MinceR | crApple's early playbook is just as disgusting as everything crApple ever did, at least since they started the Idiot Box | Mar 11 18:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Busy morning, all well though. :-) | Mar 11 18:08 | |
| *schestowitz sneezed, getting a slight cold | Mar 11 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I have a book on APple's early days | Mar 11 18:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] SCOicide - The SCO Group vs the World http://bit.ly/ds0N67 | Mar 11 18:09 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: SCOicide The SCO Group vs the World « Through the Looking Glass .::. Size~: 90.61 KB | Mar 11 18:09 |
| schestowitz | They were well ahead of BillG, who just copied them systematically | Mar 11 18:09 |
| schestowitz | His engineers say so | Mar 11 18:09 |
| schestowitz | 'His' | Mar 11 18:09 |
| MinceR | billg's playbook is disgusting too | Mar 11 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Playbook? | Mar 11 18:09 |
| MinceR | i've seen Pirates of the Silicon Valley | Mar 11 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Who's going to the toilet? | Mar 11 18:10 |
| MinceR | 185704 < schestowitz> Ha. http://ostatic.com/blog/why-canonical-should-imitate-apples-early-playbook | Mar 11 18:10 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Why Canonical Should Imitate Apple's Early Playbook .::. Size~: 28.89 KB | Mar 11 18:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: SomaliaSoft | Mar 11 18:10 |
| MinceR | 185705 < phIRCe-BNc> Title: Why Canonical Should Imitate Apple's Early Playbook .::. Size~: 28.96 KB | Mar 11 18:10 |
| schestowitz | MugabeSoft maybe | Mar 11 18:10 |
| schestowitz | http://ostatic.com/blog/electronic-frontier-foundation-examines-stomps-on-iphone-developer-agreement | Mar 11 18:12 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Electronic Frontier Foundation Examines, Stomps On iPhone Developer Agreement .::. Size~: 31.3 KB | Mar 11 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Ever since this channel started in 2008 I haven't managed to drink much cause I have to stay sober here. I pondered getting wine today and changed my mind :-| | Mar 11 18:12 |
| schestowitz | http://ostatic.com/blog/a-bright-future-for-drizzle | Mar 11 18:13 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: A Bright Future for Drizzle .::. Size~: 31.96 KB | Mar 11 18:13 |
| *GnuWulf (~depressed@unaffiliated/wirewulf) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 11 18:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://ostatic.com/blog/guest-post-financing-by-and-for-developers | Mar 11 18:15 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Guest Post: Financing, By and For Developers .::. Size~: 25.9 KB | Mar 11 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Not FOSS | Mar 11 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Informecial | Mar 11 18:15 |
| *GnuWulf has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Mar 11 18:15 | |
| schestowitz | Offers funding | Mar 11 18:15 |
| schestowitz | AND: | Mar 11 18:15 |
| schestowitz | "OStatic readers can also get $20 off the cost of a $95 general admission ticket by using the code "OS20." We asked Trevor Cornwell, founder of Embarkons.com, which focuses on peer financing for developers, to write a guest column on the topic" | Mar 11 18:15 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Mar 11 18:15 |
| *WireWulf (~zncWulf_D@unaffiliated/wirewulf) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 11 18:15 | |
| WireWulf | o/ | Mar 11 18:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] Is there some kind of fond, where users could donate for missing software features to be made? instead of paying for the same things twice. | Mar 11 18:16 | |
| WireWulf | Linux hated 2.6.33-wulf #1 SMP Sun Jan 24 00:27:00 UTC 2010 i686 Intel(R) <unknown> CPU 3.50GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux | Mar 11 18:16 |
| WireWulf | <.< | Mar 11 18:16 |
| WireWulf | >.> | Mar 11 18:17 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wolvix #GNU #Linux 2.0.0 is coming soon. http://wolvix.org/ | Mar 11 18:23 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Wolvix GNU/Linux | Home .::. Size~: 10.13 KB | Mar 11 18:23 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: o/ 0/ | Mar 11 18:24 |
| WireWulf | hi schestowitz | Mar 11 18:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There are already some nice distros that use #KDE SC 4.4 out of the box, e.g. http://xange.serdigital.com/?q=node/18 | Mar 11 18:24 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Xange 2010 64 bits and KDE 4.4! | Linux Technology! .::. Size~: 7.23 KB | Mar 11 18:24 |
| *WireWulf doesnt use kde <.< | Mar 11 18:24 | |
| WireWulf | >.> | Mar 11 18:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just called my local rep in support of the healthcare bill - http://is.gd/aenrQ | Mar 11 18:25 | |
| WireWulf | or gnome | Mar 11 18:25 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Organizing for America | BarackObama.com .::. Size~: 84.38 KB | Mar 11 18:25 |
| schestowitz | http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/03/operating-systems-and-market-share.html | Mar 11 18:28 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Thoughts on Technology: Operating Systems and Market Share Statistics .::. Size~: 98.07 KB | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Here ar my statistics - | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Site language: German | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Site topic: Law | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | 2007: Windows 82.40%, Linux 16.75%, MacOS 0.73% | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | 2008: Windows 85.54%, Linux 12.36%, MacOS 2.10% | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | 2009: Windows 85.90%, Linux 10.44%, MacOS 3.61% | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | 2010: Windows 79.70%, Linux 12.65%, MacOS 7.65% | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 11 18:28 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: twm? | Mar 11 18:28 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: openbox | Mar 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Ah. You glitzy you | Mar 11 18:29 |
| WireWulf | tho my root acount uses twm | Mar 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Fluxbox doesn't get much covrage anymore | Mar 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Today I used my machine at work without x | Mar 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | I'm wiping it off later today | Mar 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Old hardware | Mar 11 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Dell from 5 years ago | Mar 11 18:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @jonobacon We're spamming corporate-crafted laws to force everyone to buy insurance at market rates now? Either way, they win and we lose. | Mar 11 18:30 | |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: i like fluxbox but openbox just works beter eith my config | Mar 11 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | ahhh, jono is in here | Mar 11 18:31 |
| Ender2070 | [12:05] <schestowitz> You're JustaMicrosoftHater{TM} | Mar 11 18:31 |
| Ender2070 | or a GNU/Linux 'shill'. | Mar 11 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Since when was Barack Obama President of the United Kingdom? | Mar 11 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I turned my brother into a KDE fan | Mar 11 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Why the hell would you care if this passes or not? | Mar 11 18:31 |
| jono | DaemonFC, he isn't, why do you ask? | Mar 11 18:32 |
| jono | DaemonFC, because I live and work in California | Mar 11 18:32 |
| schestowitz | He's asking me questions about Compiz now, trying to show it off to friends (spreading the message) | Mar 11 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | jono, And you vote and have a stake in this right? | Mar 11 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: I'm a shill for milk | Mar 11 18:32 |
| schestowitz | And sleep | Mar 11 18:32 |
| WireWulf | shill? | Mar 11 18:32 |
| jono | DaemonFC, well given the fact that I plan on having kids in the next year, I live hear and pay taxes, I believe I have a say | Mar 11 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 11 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I a real cough hater | Mar 11 18:33 |
| jono | s/hear/here | Mar 11 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Rabid in fact | Mar 11 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Irrational hater of germs | Mar 11 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I boil my food to murder them | Mar 11 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | no, unless the law to force people to buy corporate health insurance applies to you, you do not | Mar 11 18:33 |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: we were just being sarcastic | Mar 11 18:33 |
| jono | DaemonFC, I think we are going to need to agree to disagree on this, and to be honest, I don't have time to debate now | Mar 11 18:34 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: ahh | Mar 11 18:34 |
| schestowitz | About the label glued to people like And Updegrove, "Microsoft hater" | Mar 11 18:34 |
| schestowitz | It's like "conspiracy theorist" and "Nazi" | Mar 11 18:34 |
| schestowitz | "Do listen to him, he's an <x>" | Mar 11 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Just as well since anyone stupid enough to ask for that shit deserves to have their income seized to pay market rates for it | Mar 11 18:35 |
| WireWulf | "never listen to WireWulf, he hates everything" | Mar 11 18:35 |
| WireWulf | <.< | Mar 11 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Some trolls call me "boycottboy" | Mar 11 18:35 |
| schestowitz | It's the classic O'Reilly-type smear | Mar 11 18:35 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Mar 11 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | the "help" only kicks in for the dirt poor, after they go find 20 government documents to mail into the fucking government | Mar 11 18:35 |
| schestowitz | 1. "Roy is all about boycotts" | Mar 11 18:35 |
| schestowitz | =>he hates everything | Mar 11 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | and if they forget to cross a T or dot an I on the application, it's void | Mar 11 18:35 |
| schestowitz | 2. "He's just a boy.... awwwwwwwwwww.. ;-) " | Mar 11 18:36 |
| schestowitz | =>those angry teens! | Mar 11 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | god damn it, don't tell me what government insurance will be like if it's anything like what dealing with Medicare or Medicaid is now | Mar 11 18:37 |
| Ender2070 | lol this one guy is pretty rude | Mar 11 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | forget it | Mar 11 18:37 |
| Ender2070 | "Sure, Roy, how much do we have to donate for you to close down BN? " | Mar 11 18:37 |
| Ender2070 | "And if you are being paid for you're comments (it's called 'cash for comments' here in Australia) are you not then just another paid GNU/Linux 'shill'. ? ROY ????" | Mar 11 18:37 |
| schestowitz | ACT used this against me... | Mar 11 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Hold on, let me find it | Mar 11 18:38 |
| schestowitz | It's a Microsoft front group | Mar 11 18:38 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 18:38 |
| schestowitz | One of the nastiest, from "letters from dead people" fiasco | Mar 11 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: that's "darryil" | Mar 11 18:39 |
| schestowitz | LinuxToday banned him | Mar 11 18:39 |
| schestowitz | hotmail troll for Microsoft, very vile | Mar 11 18:39 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 18:39 |
| Ender2070 | yeah hes quite the douche | Mar 11 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | this just keeps getting better and better, schestowitz ..... AFTER we voted to fire the 936 Township tax assessors in Indiana and merge them with the county offices, in the county I live in anyway, our assessor spend her last 6 months in office not doing anything so that hundreds of appeals would back up and slam the poor woman at the county level | Mar 11 18:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Association_for_Competitive_Technology | Mar 11 18:40 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Association for Competitive Technology - SourceWatch .::. Size~: 24.05 KB | Mar 11 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | what a bitch, she didn't do anything to her | Mar 11 18:41 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Association_for_Competitive_Technology | Mar 11 18:41 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Association for Competitive Technology - Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 19.94 KB | Mar 11 18:41 |
| *DaemonFC was one of the ones that voted to fire the Township assessors | Mar 11 18:41 | |
| DaemonFC | woohoo | Mar 11 18:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:blog.actonline.org+schestowitz&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GB | Mar 11 18:42 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: site:blog.actonline.org schestowitz - Google Search .::. Size~: 18.73 KB | Mar 11 18:42 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.actonline.org/.m/2009/02/microsoft-v-tomtom-first-thoughts/comments/ | Mar 11 18:43 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: ACT - Protecting Small Business Innovation:Microsoft v. TomTom - First thoughts .::. Size~: 15.24 KB | Mar 11 18:43 |
| schestowitz | "Yet, it appears that Tiemann is increasingly relying on one the Internet’s preeminent practitioners of this art: Roy Schestowitz. While Schestowitz and I have our differences on MANY issues, I must commend his passion and creativity. However, his research and writing leave much to be desired and should be taken with a bucket (or two) of salt." | Mar 11 18:44 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.actonline.org/2009/07/facts-bias-and-self-referential-hypertext-reality-1.html | Mar 11 18:44 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: ACT - Protecting Small Business Innovation: Facts, Bias, and Self-referential Hypertext Reality .::. Size~: 26.67 KB | Mar 11 18:44 |
| WireWulf | Microsoft likes to sue ont they | Mar 11 18:44 |
| WireWulf | *Dont | Mar 11 18:44 |
| schestowitz | "posted by Jonathan Zuck " | Mar 11 18:45 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Mar 11 18:45 |
| schestowitz | And makes lies about me | Mar 11 18:45 |
| WireWulf | Mac users tend to hate me | Mar 11 18:45 |
| WireWulf | <.< | Mar 11 18:46 |
| WireWulf | >.> | Mar 11 18:46 |
| WireWulf | mostly cuz i sai i can do everything they can in *nix | Mar 11 18:47 |
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| WireWulf | i c a sebsebseb | Mar 11 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Mac users don't understand UNIX | Mar 11 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Few do | Mar 11 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | i c a WireWulf | Mar 11 18:48 |
| schestowitz | They just buy it cause they have some money to spare and they want to stand out from the [Windows] crowd | Mar 11 18:48 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: i dont understand unix and i have used it most of my life | Mar 11 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and get away from Windows viruses and such | Mar 11 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Chavs and such will have Macs and think they are so cool for having one | Mar 11 18:49 |
| *WireWulf played with a mac once | Mar 11 18:50 | |
| *DaemonFC pretends to play Apple fanboy for a moment and waits for WireWulf to say something bad about the Precious | Mar 11 18:51 | |
| schestowitz | WireWulf: "played" is the correct term | Mar 11 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | hrm what did I miss, I just joined here | Mar 11 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Like oh my god, shut up!!! You like totally don't know what you're doing if you think the Mac is bad. | Mar 11 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Your fault! | Mar 11 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | bad schestowitz!!! | Mar 11 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | *hiss* | Mar 11 18:52 |
| WireWulf | schestowitz: i didnt pay.. i just played with it | Mar 11 18:52 |
| Ender2070 | zomg | Mar 11 18:52 |
| Ender2070 | pokemon is out in 3 days | Mar 11 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, You don't PLAY with the Mac, the Mac is like totally a part of your essence. It's interwoven into the fiber of your being. | Mar 11 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | To use Mac is to love Mac. | Mar 11 18:53 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 11 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | quit being so PEDESTRIAN | Mar 11 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | *hiss* *scratch* | Mar 11 18:53 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: hmm idk mac = too flashy for my taste | Mar 11 18:53 |
| MinceR | correction: it's like, totally interwoven into the fiber of your, like, being and stuff. | Mar 11 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, Like zomg, that's STYLE!!!!!! | Mar 11 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes | Mar 11 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, Listen to MinceR, he's way more uber Mac elitist than I am. | Mar 11 18:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 11 18:54 |
| WireWulf | DaemonFC: i tend to like cli over a pretty GUI | Mar 11 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | He gives Steve Jobs reach arounds | Mar 11 18:54 |
| WireWulf | heh | Mar 11 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | some Mexican guy is now the worlds richest man, instead of Bill Gates by the way | Mar 11 18:55 |
| schestowitz | [18:52] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, Like oh my god, shut up!!! You like totally don't know what you're doing if you think the Mac is bad. | Mar 11 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Shut your trap | Mar 11 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | WireWulf, I can has tcsh on my Mac! | Mar 11 18:55 |
| MinceR | people like to pit CLI and GUI against each other as if you could only use one or the other | Mar 11 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | nyaaah!!! | Mar 11 18:55 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: he's doing satire :) | Mar 11 18:55 |
| *schestowitz still struggles to customise his Linux box for that mythical "Mac Experience"^TM | Mar 11 18:56 | |
| DaemonFC | No, you guys, my iPhone is like, the bomb! It's got like apps and stuff if they don't delete them from the store and my phone, which is totally the right call if Apple made it and junk! | Mar 11 18:56 |
| MinceR | yeah, the hypePhone is totally the bomb | Mar 11 18:56 |
| MinceR | it even explodes! | Mar 11 18:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I know it was ssssssssssssoooo satire | Mar 11 18:57 |
| MinceR | and it does so randomly | Mar 11 18:57 |
| schestowitz | I mean, like, duh! | Mar 11 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They should delete U2 off of everything they ever put it on | Mar 11 18:57 |
| MinceR | it doesn't get any more "the bomb" than that | Mar 11 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | and apologize publicly | Mar 11 18:57 |
| schestowitz | They should ask Jeff Bozo | Mar 11 18:57 |
| MinceR | :D | Mar 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | He knows how to blow data up remotely | Mar 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | He's like a 21st century Unabomber | Mar 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | With a fetish for Microsoft execs like Brian Valentine | Mar 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Hatred for 1984 | Mar 11 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | U2 promotion might have been the biggest customer abuse orgy since the Apple III | Mar 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | It's the antithesis of Microsoft | Mar 11 18:58 |
| schestowitz | U2 sucks | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | I tried to like them | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Cause some friends do | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | They can at least play an instrument | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Unlike many these days, with exceptions like Alicia Keys | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | BTW... | Mar 11 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You have to give Ballmer credit for the entertainment value, when he went on his tirade against the iPhone, he managed something even shittier that ran Microsoft Windows Mobile called the Motorola QPhone | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | Is it just me, or does Kate Perry have a bad voice? | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | And "Lady Gaga" too | Mar 11 18:59 |
| schestowitz | very amateur, but their 'music team' does decent work | Mar 11 19:00 |
| schestowitz | And they use the artists just for branding | Mar 11 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Like toothpaste | Mar 11 19:00 |
| schestowitz | A face for the product (studio work) | Mar 11 19:00 |
| schestowitz | OPhone is coming | Mar 11 19:00 |
| schestowitz | From China, Linux based | Mar 11 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Not Android IIRC | Mar 11 19:00 |
| schestowitz | But Android phones will come from China too quite soon | Mar 11 19:01 |
| schestowitz | They are already manufactured there | Mar 11 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Almost all of them | Mar 11 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Maybe some more further south | Mar 11 19:01 |
| WireWulf | media one phone from china was more powerful then the iphone | Mar 11 19:01 |
| schestowitz | but HTC and other companies take control | Mar 11 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, My theory is that people want to buy something that lets them do more than they really need, that's why Microsoft and Palm are in the gutter, they can't even give you what a typical user would need at the minimum. | Mar 11 19:01 |
| schestowitz | They pocket the profit and production contracts | Mar 11 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Buh-bye Western jobs | Mar 11 19:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: my Palm from 2004 still serves me | Mar 11 19:02 |
| MinceR | there are lots of phones that are more powerful than the hypePhone | Mar 11 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes the speaker even works!! | Mar 11 19:02 |
| MinceR | most featurephones are more open | Mar 11 19:02 |
| schestowitz | For a few minutes, then goes off again | Mar 11 19:02 |
| WireWulf | my sony clie su33 with palm 5 still servers me well | Mar 11 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Nice | Mar 11 19:02 |
| schestowitz | I had wanted Clie at the time | Mar 11 19:02 |
| MinceR | my palm tungsten e2 died a little over a year after i bought it | Mar 11 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Confickr? | Mar 11 19:03 |
| schestowitz | *er | Mar 11 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Nexus One bitch slaps the iPhone | Mar 11 19:03 |
| WireWulf | i had a handspring visor be for the clie | Mar 11 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 19:03 |
| schestowitz | A good name for a boy... OR a girl | Mar 11 19:03 |
| WireWulf | the handspring still works :P | Mar 11 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Maybe better for dogs, to avoid child abuse and schol bullying | Mar 11 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Infectious kids that are only compatible with other Windows users | Mar 11 19:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: but it doesn't have "Magic" | Mar 11 19:04 |
| schestowitz | Whatever that is | Mar 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | iPhone is like Coke | Mar 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | People pay extra and even carrier fees just to be associated with an image | Mar 11 19:05 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: pretty much everything in that price range does | Mar 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | The iPhone is like bread in Church | Mar 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | iPhone is flesh of Steve Jobs | Mar 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | You eat it | Mar 11 19:05 |
| MinceR | i've always preferred Pepsi to Coke | Mar 11 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Then you 'feel' the lifestyle, share the pain | Mar 11 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Wine, anyone? | Mar 11 19:06 |
| MinceR | i only rarely run winblows apps with it :> | Mar 11 19:07 |
| schestowitz | http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-March/132858.html | Mar 11 19:07 |
| schestowitz | It's a taste of 'the' Windows | Mar 11 19:07 |
| schestowitz | It's the blood of Vista | Mar 11 19:07 |
| schestowitz | Symbolic | Mar 11 19:08 |
| schestowitz | An excuse for getting obese while doing acts of sanctity | Mar 11 19:08 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Mar 11 19:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.berkeleylug.com/?p=485 | Mar 11 19:09 |
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| *WireWulf does some editing on his psp | Mar 11 19:09 | |
| Ender2070 | ds is better | Mar 11 19:10 |
| WireWulf | Ender2070: idk there both pretty goo if you find a good game for them | Mar 11 19:11 |
| WireWulf | *GOOD | Mar 11 19:11 |
| WireWulf | my PSP just connects to my znc easier | Mar 11 19:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_13_earlygpu&num=1 | Mar 11 19:13 |
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| WireWulf | wee | Mar 11 19:17 |
| WireWulf | <.< | Mar 11 19:17 |
| WireWulf | <.< | Mar 11 19:17 |
| Ender2070 | ds actually has decent games | Mar 11 19:18 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 19:18 |
| Ender2070 | pokemon has nice features | Mar 11 19:18 |
| *DaemonFC would check to make sure his Linux kernel is activated, but it doesn't seem to be asking me to and he doesn't think anyone has ported slmgr.vbs to PERL yet. | Mar 11 19:18 | |
| DaemonFC | carried over from another room | Mar 11 19:18 |
| Ender2070 | i can use my ds pokemon on the wii | Mar 11 19:18 |
| WireWulf | wtf is a pokemon? | Mar 11 19:19 |
| schestowitz | It's a little creature that preys on kids' wallets (or their parents') | Mar 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | The pokemon reproduces in publicity, such that the more kids use it, the harder it becomes for a kid to resist without overwhelming peer pressure | Mar 11 19:23 |
| schestowitz | It also teaches kids not to think | Mar 11 19:23 |
| schestowitz | To just watch and adhere to fantasy | Mar 11 19:23 |
| WireWulf | ahh so basicly like most rpgs | Mar 11 19:24 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Mar 11 19:24 |
| Ender2070 | i hate the shows and cards | Mar 11 19:24 |
| Ender2070 | i just like the games, they link together nicely | Mar 11 19:24 |
| ianto | The games were alright | Mar 11 19:25 |
| Ender2070 | the wii version can take pokemon from your ds | Mar 11 19:25 |
| Ender2070 | and then you can battle people online | Mar 11 19:25 |
| Ender2070 | or directly fromt he ds | Mar 11 19:25 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Giving jamendo a first real look. Some nice stuff here. | Mar 11 19:26 | |
| WireWulf | i like fps | Mar 11 19:26 |
| WireWulf | and rts games | Mar 11 19:26 |
| WireWulf | i am hungry | Mar 11 19:28 |
| WireWulf | brb | Mar 11 19:28 |
| Ender2070 | rts games are fun | Mar 11 19:29 |
| Ender2070 | im a c&c fan | Mar 11 19:29 |
| WireWulf | yay C&C | Mar 11 19:30 |
| WireWulf | tho i like supcom , ta, and aoeII also | Mar 11 19:31 |
| Ender2070 | im going to be trying ta soon | Mar 11 19:31 |
| WireWulf | ta is like oler then dirt Ender2070 :P | Mar 11 19:31 |
| Ender2070 | errr | Mar 11 19:32 |
| Ender2070 | the 3d remake of it | Mar 11 19:32 |
| WireWulf | tho the opensorced version for spring is pretty nice | Mar 11 19:32 |
| WireWulf | Ender2070: 3d remake of it ?? like spring's games or are they really remaking it? | Mar 11 19:34 |
| MinceR | isn't Spring with the XTA mod a remake of TA? :> | Mar 11 19:36 |
| WireWulf | MinceR: there are a lot of ta mods for spring | Mar 11 19:37 |
| WireWulf | XTA is just community based and the cxommunity likes the old school ta feel | Mar 11 19:37 |
| Ender2070 | spring | Mar 11 19:37 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 11 19:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @satipera http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/30982 | Mar 11 19:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.garylsnyder.com/huntingtonlocal/2010/03/massive-prescription-drug-bust-in-huntington-county--scott-sarvay-indianasnewscentercom.html | Mar 11 19:40 |
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| DaemonFC | "MASSIVE PRESCRIPTION DRUG BUST IN HUNTINGTON COUNTY -" | Mar 11 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | LOL at the guy they hauled out with no shirt on | Mar 11 19:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99FpLLJLerM | Mar 11 19:41 |
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| WireWulf | Balanced Annihilation & Complete Annihilation are the pretty ones tho | Mar 11 19:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOzuBOefL8I | Mar 11 19:46 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, there you go.... Illegal Poss. of Firearm, Class C Felony | Mar 11 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | one of the charges one one of those 28 people they arrested | Mar 11 19:50 |
| Ender2070 | dude | Mar 11 19:50 |
| Ender2070 | ironman isnt that cool | Mar 11 19:50 |
| Ender2070 | he arrested captain america | Mar 11 19:50 |
| Ender2070 | and while he was going to court he got assassinated | Mar 11 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There's only one way to really be in illegal possession of a firearm if you're over 21 (aside from stealing it), that's if you don't have a permit | Mar 11 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | the only way to really truly be disqualified for a permit is to have a felony on your record | Mar 11 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | so that tells you that this person was either stupid and didn't get a permit, or had already been in deep shit before and couldn't | Mar 11 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | (No permit needed for shotguns, minimum purchase age is 18) | Mar 11 19:52 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Mar 11 19:52 |
| WireWulf | lol | Mar 11 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | still if you get found with a shotgun and you're a felon, you're fucked | Mar 11 19:53 |
| WireWulf | i have a sxhotgun | Mar 11 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | and they do background checks at the store | Mar 11 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | I had to pass a background check for Huntington County, the State of Indiana, and the ATF | Mar 11 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | to get a personal protection permit | Mar 11 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | they make damned sure that you don't have a record before giving you that | Mar 11 19:54 |
| Ender2070 | ROFL | Mar 11 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | and then you have to go through another ATF check to buy a gun | Mar 11 19:55 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpwR7ym3eDU | Mar 11 19:55 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- IRON MAN 2 the spoof trailer .::. Size~: 116.84 KB | Mar 11 19:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFOX wants to see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frs25RsstoA | Mar 11 19:58 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I know all about that | Mar 11 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | They discontinued the practice not long after I started there | Mar 11 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | not because it's wrong | Mar 11 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | because it's not profitable enough | Mar 11 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | shameful and disgusting practice of preying on the dead | Mar 11 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | puts them in the same class as grave robbers anyway | Mar 11 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | IT's a shame there's still no law against it, but if you can't profit off it on a scale of Walmart's size, I doubt it's very popular | Mar 11 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Wow. This is excellent! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYAP0Hijgv0 | Mar 11 20:03 |
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| DaemonFC | Ventura!!!! | Mar 11 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | I love Jesse Ventura!!!!!! | Mar 11 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | in a platonic way | Mar 11 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 11 20:03 |
| WireWulf | bbl | Mar 11 20:04 |
| WireWulf | xznc will stay in here tho if thats okay | Mar 11 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'd vote for a President Ventura | Mar 11 20:04 |
| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Mar 11 20:04 | |
| DaemonFC | hells yeah B-) | Mar 11 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Mar 11 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They paid him for the full three years but yanked his show | Mar 11 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | and his contract said he couldn't talk about the incident | Mar 11 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Mar 11 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | bribes and threats to shut him up | Mar 11 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, AppArmor 2.5 is out | Mar 11 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjrIXyJRRxo | Mar 11 20:15 |
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| schestowitz | [20:06] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, They paid him for the full three years but yanked his show | Mar 11 20:15 |
| schestowitz | Fox did this routine too | Mar 11 20:15 |
| schestowitz | When they yanked a story about Monsanto's corruptions | Mar 11 20:16 |
| schestowitz | After legal threats | Mar 11 20:16 |
| schestowitz | That's how media is run | Mar 11 20:16 |
| schestowitz | And Murdoch's is probably the worst | Mar 11 20:16 |
| schestowitz | The Young Turks (TYT) is a good channel | Mar 11 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig6kCf7Bf2k | Mar 11 20:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Obama Reiterates Support For Finishing ACTA - http://bit.ly/bLNChc whoops - out of step again... #obama #acta #eu | Mar 11 20:32 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Never had used/tried before, but finally did now. #OSSEC is really cool and can very well save us hundreds of thousands of Euros. Pitfals? | Mar 11 20:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvaO81VFIXY | Mar 11 20:43 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/87365652.html | Mar 11 21:23 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Don't dare claiming #Thunderbird's a whole lot better than #Evolution. It isn't, and I use both of them. They're both as bad. | Mar 11 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | 3. BINGHOO. | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | A couple of Ubuntu users (including me) where pretty concerned about the | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | BingHoo deal. Yet as a matter of fact, we have been over reacting. The | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | BingHoo deal is not such a big deal after all for the end user. | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | If you don't want BingHoo to be your default search engine, the only | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | thing you have to do, is to click the dropdwon button in the Firefox | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | search bar and choose your preferred search engine. Next time if you | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | fire up Firefox, it will present you a startup page of your preferred | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | search engine, with the Ubuntu Logo. | Mar 11 21:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 11 21:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Wrote my Ubuntu Lucid Lynx Alpha 3 review in COLA (not on osgeex): http://tinyurl.com/yhpf7rn | Mar 11 21:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] @ruiseabra Evolution is rigid, feels like you're driving a tank, and still manages to miss features. Firefox+Thunderbird+Sunbird ftw! | Mar 11 21:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Quando há um ano o site da transparência caiu pelas visitas derivadas d'O Público, teve 200 mil visitas numa manhã. | Mar 11 21:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Com 170 mil visitas em dois dias o site do IRS vai abaixo? Mau design... | Mar 11 21:49 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I have wifey-approval for preliminary MythTV setup in the lounge. This is a good day. DVB-S2 here I come! | Mar 11 21:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Not a good day in Huntington...drug bust, diesel spill, and my trash won't get picked up until next week! | Mar 11 21:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Putting Mythbuntu 9.10 on a USB stick for installation of frontend on an Acer Revo | Mar 11 21:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ender2070, I'm convinced we need to implement Egypt's policy for crimes which warrant a death sentence | Mar 11 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | rape, treason, murder, and organized drug trafficking | Mar 11 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Truscott | Mar 11 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | hah, Canada fail | Mar 11 22:08 |
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| DaemonFC | apologize to the murderer and pay them $6.5 million for the trouble | Mar 11 22:08 |
| oiaohm | In one way with drug trafficing you could be creative they get out of jail once they have used all the drug they attempted to import and are drug clean. | Mar 11 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I just don't get why other countries don't have the stomach to deliver rightful and timely justice to people guilty of heinous crimes | Mar 11 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | or why we put up with those elements here | Mar 11 22:13 |
| DaemonFC | we'd have a hell of a lot less crime if people knew their punishment would be unpleasant to severe | Mar 11 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | they know they can ride out the time watching taxpayer funded TV and working out in expensive gyms | Mar 11 22:15 |
| oiaohm | Part of the problem is death sentence solution is you don't get to undo mistakes. | Mar 11 22:15 |
| oiaohm | Of course I don't believe there punishment should be light. But death is not exactly right. | Mar 11 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Well, there's certain cases where it's not in question at all whether they did it by the end of the trial | Mar 11 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | where there were 50 witnesses and a signed confession | Mar 11 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | they should not get all those appeals and shit | Mar 11 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | in those cases | Mar 11 22:16 |
| oiaohm | Even signed confession has at times be shown to be under duress. | Mar 11 22:16 |
| oiaohm | Ie in time the physical evidence disproved the crime. | Mar 11 22:17 |
| oiaohm | That is what makes it so hard DaemonFC. The system is not perfect. Its never going to be perfect. | Mar 11 22:17 |
| oiaohm | witnesses can be supprisingly non dependable. | Mar 11 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | so how do you send a message to people that you're going to come down hard on them if they commit a crime? | Mar 11 22:18 |
| oiaohm | Now if the case has stack of physical evidence pointing to the person. And they cannot disprove any of it they should not really get appeals. | Mar 11 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | if you take away the threats that you can make as punishment | Mar 11 22:19 |
| oiaohm | There is a mixture of things here. | Mar 11 22:19 |
| oiaohm | punishment is not the only thing required. You don't want people coming out of jail with no skills or they could be forced to redo crime. | Mar 11 22:20 |
| oiaohm | Basically going to jail should be you are going to work your ass off. | Mar 11 22:20 |
| oiaohm | So basically max of 6 hours sleep and the rest of the time working back side off under like a drill sargent. DaemonFC | Mar 11 22:23 |
| oiaohm | So they get lots of training and will never really want to see a jail again DaemonFC | Mar 11 22:24 |
| oiaohm | Also that method really does not do long term harm to anyone who is there is not gulity. | Mar 11 22:27 |
| oiaohm | The other thing we find it fine to fit dogs with equal to tazer collers so they do what we want. Yet for some reason you suggest doing that to crimes people get upset. DaemonFC | Mar 11 22:29 |
| oiaohm | It would kinda make stopping a roit fairly sime. | Mar 11 22:29 |
| oiaohm | simple. | Mar 11 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | make sure their time there is unpleasant and that they never want to see the place again, right | Mar 11 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | so what are we doing wrong in our prisons that just makes them meaner criminals when they get out? | Mar 11 22:30 |
| oiaohm | Not just unpleasant | Mar 11 22:31 |
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| oiaohm | unpleasant and did truly learn something useful. DaemonFC | Mar 11 22:31 |
| oiaohm | Ie the did truly learn something useful is critical so they don't come back as much. | Mar 11 22:32 |
| oiaohm | unpleasant because they have to obey and have no option about it. DaemonFC | Mar 11 22:32 |
| oiaohm | http://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-powered-synthesizer Hmm you never know where Linux will turn up. | Mar 11 22:33 |
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| DaemonFC | jono_, Are there any plans to help Pidgin integrate into indicator to where it can minimize there on close? | Mar 11 22:43 |
| jono_ | DaemonFC, no idea, it was not a target for Lucid as we don't ship it | Mar 11 22:43 |
| jono_ | would love to see an upstream patch | Mar 11 22:43 |
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| DaemonFC | well, I don't think they care because you're the only ones using indicator or notify-osd | Mar 11 22:44 |
| jono_ | DaemonFC, well, possibly | Mar 11 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | so I think Ubuntu is the only one that could patch this as it's not an issue on most Linux distros | Mar 11 22:44 |
| jono_ | DaemonFC, pidgen is open source | Mar 11 22:44 |
| jono_ | other upstreams have patched their apps to use these facilities | Mar 11 22:44 |
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| DaemonFC | so is this stuff ever going to be integrated in GNOME? Is it going to stay an outside thing indefinitely? | Mar 11 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | What has the feedback been like so far? | Mar 11 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | cause it kind of feels like whatever Ubuntu ships is the One True Way and gets the red carpet, and whatever you prefer to use is all third world and icky and craps up the notifications area | Mar 11 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I'd like to see it all one way or another | Mar 11 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like Empathy due to their design methodology of refusing vehemently to support things like Off The Record or even accepting a simple patch to let the user turn off logging | Mar 11 22:48 |
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| DaemonFC | jono, Surely you're aware how fast idling in #ubuntu could fill your hard drive up with logs | Mar 11 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | arrrgh! | Mar 11 22:48 |
| oiaohm | notify-osd I have seen no push from the ubuntu developers to upstream. | Mar 11 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC | jono may have missed the last bit there, so... | Mar 11 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | jono, Surely you're aware how fast idling in #ubuntu could fill your hard drive up with logs | Mar 11 22:49 |
| jono | sorry DaemonFC, network issues | Mar 11 22:49 |
| jono | lol | Mar 11 22:49 |
| jono | yes | Mar 11 22:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Working on my #osbc presentation 'Unwrapping The Community Manager' for next Thursday morning. :-) | Mar 11 22:49 | |
| jono | need to be in touch with folks though :) | Mar 11 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | so why isn't Empathy responsive to user requests for a feature to disable logs? | Mar 11 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | simple one liner patch iirc | Mar 11 22:50 |
| jono | DaemonFC, dude, I am not the answer to all your Ubuntu questions :-) | Mar 11 22:50 |
| jono | ask the Empathy dudes | Mar 11 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | and given their apathy to user needs, why is it default IM in Ubuntu? | Mar 11 22:50 |
| jono | or ask on ubuntu-devel | Mar 11 22:50 |
| jono | right, I am going back to work :) | Mar 11 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | it seems to me to be another example of starting a project to make a program that is much less useful and more infuriating than whatever they have cloned | Mar 11 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of went all those years thinking Pidgin was unresponsive to users and then Empathy comes along and kicks me in the crotch and shows me it can get worse | Mar 11 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | now Pidgin is this oasis out in the middle of the desert | Mar 11 22:53 |
| jono | DaemonFC, write patches then, fix it :) | Mar 11 22:55 |
| jono | they are all open source projects | Mar 11 22:55 |
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| DaemonFC | jono, People have written patches, simple patches that expose the setting to disable logging, and change or touch nothing else | Mar 11 22:56 |
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| DaemonFC | DENIED | Mar 11 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | such is life | Mar 11 22:57 |
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| DaemonFC | <DownWithMalware> Guys what sounds better Down with malware or Doctor Fix it? | Mar 11 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> or run and hide before they want your credit card | Mar 11 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> I'll go with that | Mar 11 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 11 23:00 |
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| DaemonFC | DaemonFC> DownWithMalware, SuperTurboEvidenceBlasterMegaDeluxeSpywareTerminatorIntrusionEliminatorPhotonicDefender XP *Copyright (check date with NTP server and insert) DaemonFC | Mar 11 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 23:03 |
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| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> I am running a special to make you think your system is infected with all kinds of things that aren't there, that part is free, but if you want SuperTurboEvidenceBlasterMegaDeluxeSpywareTerminatorIntrusionEliminatorPhotonicDefender XP to remove the things it claims to find, I will need $29.95 USD (*Disclaimer* This is a joke) | Mar 11 23:06 |
| oiaohm | Problem is real malware like that exists in large numbers DaemonFC | Mar 11 23:06 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 11 23:32 |
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