IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: March 16th, 2010

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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Courier is Vapourware http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/15/microsoft-courier-hype/		Mar 16 00:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I just blogged about some awesome Ubuntu community progress in Lucid and how I manage my team at Canonical - http://is.gd/aIIV9 #ubuntu		Mar 16 00:20
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MinceR	s/gn//	Mar 16 00:24
schestowitz	gn too	Mar 16 00:25
sebsebseb	http://www.ubersoft.net/comic/hd/2010/03/sudden-inevitable-betrayal	Mar 16 00:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @gbraad: technology, like real-time web can aid governments. it should not be feared. information becomes transparent #tnparty		Mar 16 00:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Heading into the Severed Fifth studio to work on the new album in 15mins - watch live and chat at http://is.gd/aIBDS #severedfifth		Mar 16 00:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Press here to start typing your message...		Mar 16 00:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Recording live now in the Severed Fifth studio, writing the second album - watch live and chat at http://is.gd/aIBDS #severedfifth		Mar 16 01:09
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krb	http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-March/msg00134.html	Mar 16 02:23
krb	Red Hat employee stepping down, being replaced by a Novell employee	Mar 16 02:23
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krb	figured you might not have cought this	Mar 16 02:23
krb	he's also a tomboy contributor	Mar 16 02:26
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bruce89	isn't he also the documentation person?	Mar 16 02:39
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Omar87	Hello all.	Mar 16 03:28
Omar87	I have a question: The latest update on the MS/i4i case, does the rule prohibit the selling or importing of Word alone? Or does it include the whole MS-Office suit?	Mar 16 03:29
cubezzz2	can you buy office without Word? :)	Mar 16 03:31
Omar87	cubezzz, I guess not. :)	Mar 16 03:31
Omar87	cubezzz: But then again: can you buy Word without Office? :D	Mar 16 03:32
cubezzz2	yes	Mar 16 03:37
cubezzz2	http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Microsoft-Word-2000-For-98-2000-2002-XP-2003-VISTA_W0QQitemZ170457218470QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27b00abda6	Mar 16 03:37
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cubezzz2	why bother when I can just use vim? ;-)	Mar 16 03:39
cubezzz2	I'm not sure, but I think Microsoft resolved whatever problem there was with Word	Mar 16 03:42
cubezzz2	they lost both appeals though	Mar 16 03:43
*sebsebseb is happy		Mar 16 03:51
*sebsebseb is quite happy at the moment		Mar 16 03:51
sebsebseb	since.... well does anyone here right now care? :D	Mar 16 03:52
cubezzz2	sure, why not?	Mar 16 03:52
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sebsebseb	cubezzz2: so I got this woman to try using Ubuntu using Wubi :) however she didn't like the look of it	Mar 16 03:53
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sebsebseb	well acstauly I tried getting her to boot from CD's, but..	Mar 16 03:53
sebsebseb	anyway	Mar 16 03:53
sebsebseb	I had a feeling she woudn't like Gnome	Mar 16 03:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post \| Remember Kids, Backups Are Important \| The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/yjdg3uy		Mar 16 03:54
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sebsebseb	since doesn't look Windows like enough by default	Mar 16 03:54
sebsebseb	I also got her to download the ISO for Mandriva with KDE	Mar 16 03:54
sebsebseb	and she booted from that earlier, and yes likes it a lot more than Ubuntu, the look	Mar 16 03:54
sebsebseb	so that will go on instead of Ubuntu :)	Mar 16 03:54
sebsebseb	Mandriva is so much better than Ubuntu for default looks :)	Mar 16 03:55
sebsebseb	cubezzz2: been trying to help her become a Desktop Linux the last few nights here and there, and things have gone well so far :) not quite ready to put a distro on the hard disk properly though, but nearly	Mar 16 03:57
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Yet another use for Murungakkaai (Moringa oleifera ) ! http://ow.ly/1ljxW /via @naastygun This is cool :-)		Mar 16 03:57
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Ender2070	lol	Mar 16 04:06
Ender2070	my pc at home must be on	Mar 16 04:06
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cubezzz2	what's a good cpu that doesn't use too much power and doesn't get hot?	Mar 16 04:30
cubezzz2	for desktop motherboard	Mar 16 04:30
Omar87	<<cubezzz2> why bother when I can just use vim? ;-)>	Mar 16 04:31
Omar87	cubezzz, I wish all people think like you do. :P	Mar 16 04:31
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Omar87	cubezzz, things would've been much better. :)	Mar 16 04:31
cubezzz2	Omar87, I use text based programs a lot	Mar 16 04:33
cubezzz2	it's just faster	Mar 16 04:33
WireWulf	and not as gard on your rig	Mar 16 04:33
WireWulf	*har	Mar 16 04:33
WireWulf	**hard	Mar 16 04:34
WireWulf	xD super failure	Mar 16 04:34
cubezzz2	for example, using Mutt I can delete spams very quickly	Mar 16 04:34
cubezzz2	I'm just a bit worried this AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2100+ is a power pig	Mar 16 04:35
WireWulf	hmm	Mar 16 04:39
WireWulf	a lite linux disxtro may make you computer use less power cubezzz2	Mar 16 04:39
WireWulf	lower the needs are for the os the less stress on the hardware = the amount of power needed	Mar 16 04:40
WireWulf	but then that is just xan idea also	Mar 16 04:42
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cubezzz2	Univac 1 used 124.5 kW	Mar 16 04:56
cubezzz2	on the other extreme: ARM 80321 600 MHz, 0.5 watt	Mar 16 04:57
DaemonFC	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Wayne	Mar 16 04:59
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DaemonFC	British incite the natives, natives get pwned	Mar 16 04:59
cubezzz2	I'm sure that happened many times	Mar 16 04:59
DaemonFC	we get pissed and take the rest of Indiana by force	Mar 16 05:00
DaemonFC	:)	Mar 16 05:00
DaemonFC	guns helped with that	Mar 16 05:02
DaemonFC	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Turtle	Mar 16 05:03
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DaemonFC	Wikipedia somehow glosses over one detail there	Mar 16 05:04
DaemonFC	on the few occasions they captured Americans, they would pretend to eat them	Mar 16 05:04
DaemonFC	and then let one go to tell everyone else what they saw	Mar 16 05:04
DaemonFC	it backfired and we sent an army to wipe them out	Mar 16 05:05
DaemonFC	:)	Mar 16 05:05
DaemonFC	oops	Mar 16 05:05
DaemonFC	cubezzz, So I guess the thing to take from this is don't pretend to be more badass than you are	Mar 16 05:06
DaemonFC	you may just make the enemy angrier at you	Mar 16 05:06
cubezzz2	I try to get along with people	Mar 16 05:07
DaemonFC	best way to deceive the enemy is to make sure they don't have good estimates of your capabilities	Mar 16 05:07
DaemonFC	but don't try to bluff, try to obscure and let their own paranoia defeat them	Mar 16 05:07
DaemonFC	let them make a bogeyman out of you if they want, it demoralizes them, but let them come to their conclusions based on their ignorance	Mar 16 05:08
DaemonFC	whoa, that was deep	Mar 16 05:08
DaemonFC	:)	Mar 16 05:08
DaemonFC	most people don't understand that enemy intelligence is as good as the details they let out themselves	Mar 16 05:10
DaemonFC	cubezzz, We've gone soft	Mar 16 05:10
DaemonFC	we should hang foreign spies	Mar 16 05:10
DaemonFC	publicly	Mar 16 05:10
DaemonFC	spying for China? public hanging	Mar 16 05:10
DaemonFC	send the body back postage due	Mar 16 05:10
DaemonFC	what the hell is with this "Oh, you sold us out, ten years in prison! LOL!"?	Mar 16 05:11
DaemonFC	treason is still punishable by death, right?	Mar 16 05:11
cubezzz2	uh, probably not here :)	Mar 16 05:16
DaemonFC	this isn't some new oppressive state crap either	Mar 16 05:17
DaemonFC	Treason has been punishable by death since the Articles of Confederation was our constitution	Mar 16 05:17
DaemonFC	:)	Mar 16 05:17
DaemonFC	Most people don't realize that George Washington was not our first President, cubezzz2	Mar 16 05:19
DaemonFC	:)	Mar 16 05:19
DaemonFC	he was the 17th	Mar 16 05:19
DaemonFC	the schools don't emphasize this because the current constitution was enacted illegally	Mar 16 05:19
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DaemonFC	cubezzz2, Peyton Randolph was the first president of the United States	Mar 16 05:21
DaemonFC	you won't find any history book calling attention to this	Mar 16 05:21
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Ender2070	George Washington was	Mar 16 05:22
cubezzz2	"President of the Continental Congress"	Mar 16 05:22
Ender2070	http://www.garone.net/tony/random_files/curiousgeorge4.jpg	Mar 16 05:23
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cubezzz2	George Washington was the 1st President of the United States	Mar 16 05:23
DaemonFC	the President of the Continental Congress was the highest office before the current constitution illegally replaced the Articles of Confederation	Mar 16 05:24
Ender2070	LOL	Mar 16 05:24
Ender2070	Confederate	Mar 16 05:24
Ender2070	lincoln beating ur asses down changed that	Mar 16 05:24
DaemonFC	yes, the United States was a confederacy until 1788	Mar 16 05:24
cubezzz2	what's the diff? :)	Mar 16 05:25
DaemonFC	the later CSA government was only confederate in name	Mar 16 05:25
cubezzz2	to coin an 80s expression :)	Mar 16 05:25
DaemonFC	it was actually a strong federal government	Mar 16 05:25
Ender2070	oh by the way	Mar 16 05:26
cubezzz2	ok, I see where you got 17 from	Mar 16 05:26
DaemonFC	the CSA constitution was just the US constitution with some "changes" to declare the right to own slaves, a few other little things	Mar 16 05:26
Ender2070	toronto police are having people turn in their guns	Mar 16 05:26
Ender2070	using cash incentives	Mar 16 05:26
DaemonFC	I think their President had one six year term was the next biggest thing	Mar 16 05:26
DaemonFC	the term lasted longer than the CSA	Mar 16 05:26
DaemonFC	B-)	Mar 16 05:26
cubezzz2	Ender2070, not my phaser!	Mar 16 05:27
cubezzz2	;-)	Mar 16 05:27
Ender2070	lol heres the funny part	Mar 16 05:27
cubezzz2	no way they're getting that	Mar 16 05:27
Ender2070	people are turning in their broken guns for $500 and going and buying new ones	Mar 16 05:27
DaemonFC	Ender2070, The south is still being flogged over the Civil War	Mar 16 05:27
DaemonFC	the Voting Rights Act is a good example, though that's from the 1960s	Mar 16 05:28
DaemonFC	and there is no federally recognized right to vote in the United States	Mar 16 05:28
DaemonFC	the states decide their own policy outside of not being able to turn women away (constitution) or minorities (Voting Rights Act)	Mar 16 05:29
Ender2070	does it matter?	Mar 16 05:29
DaemonFC	so if the Indiana government wants to say I can't vote, I can't vote	Mar 16 05:29
Ender2070	ok	Mar 16 05:29
DaemonFC	I can sue them in the Indiana court system	Mar 16 05:29
DaemonFC	that's about it	Mar 16 05:29
Ender2070	are you saying you're wasting your time with voting?	Mar 16 05:30
DaemonFC	maybe, maybe not	Mar 16 05:30
DaemonFC	anyway, that's why most states disqualify felons from voting	Mar 16 05:30
DaemonFC	and where that authority comes from	Mar 16 05:30
DaemonFC	there is no right to vote	Mar 16 05:30
DaemonFC	only a right to not be discriminated against over race or gender	Mar 16 05:31
Ender2070	theres no right to breathe or eat or even live	Mar 16 05:31
Ender2070	its all granted to you	Mar 16 05:31
DaemonFC	in practice, most states limit the voting to middle and upper class white people to this day	Mar 16 05:31
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DaemonFC	setting up photo ID requirements as a barrier to voting	Mar 16 05:32
DaemonFC	charging you to get one	Mar 16 05:32
Ender2070	you don't want terrorists voting	Mar 16 05:32
DaemonFC	it's a hurdle, but most white people have a driver's license	Mar 16 05:32
DaemonFC	so it's not a hurdle for white people, as a whole	Mar 16 05:32
DaemonFC	it'll turn away 10 blacks or hispanics and/or poor people for every 1 disqualified white person	Mar 16 05:33
DaemonFC	maybe more	Mar 16 05:33
DaemonFC	Indiana was sued over this requirement and the law was struck down, so they reinstated the law as "you can have a state ID for free if you can prove you're broke"	Mar 16 05:34
DaemonFC	sure, just go to your bank and, ohhh, right	Mar 16 05:34
DaemonFC	;)	Mar 16 05:34
DaemonFC	most poor people have no bank account	Mar 16 05:34
Ender2070	lol	Mar 16 05:34
cubezzz2	you should be able to vote without a driver's license	Mar 16 05:35
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DaemonFC	fuck, or a car to go get the account statement to prove they don't have anything in the account	Mar 16 05:35
DaemonFC	cubezzz, "Free if you can prove you're poor" is actually worse than paying for the ID to begin with	Mar 16 05:35
DaemonFC	it's amusinglt evil	Mar 16 05:36
DaemonFC	*amusingly	Mar 16 05:36
DaemonFC	see the circular logic there?	Mar 16 05:36
DaemonFC	easier to pay $15 for a photo ID	Mar 16 05:36
DaemonFC	than it is to prove you're poor	Mar 16 05:36
DaemonFC	of course the real fear was that illegal Mexicans could vote easily before	Mar 16 05:37
DaemonFC	and that's not true	Mar 16 05:37
DaemonFC	you've always had to prove citizenship to get the voter registration	Mar 16 05:38
DaemonFC	they're really afraid that ACORN's army of Mickey Mouse will show up	Mar 16 05:38
DaemonFC	yes	Mar 16 05:38
DaemonFC	must be	Mar 16 05:38
DaemonFC	"Mickey Mouse" Theres $1, "Donald Duck", that's another $1.......	Mar 16 05:39
DaemonFC	I think that's about the extent of the fraud	Mar 16 05:39
DaemonFC	and it didn't even make it past the state knuckle draggers typing it into the computer	Mar 16 05:39
DaemonFC	The Republicans want you to believe the entire Disney character lineup showed up to vote in every precinct in every state thanks to ACORN	Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFC	and it was all a plot to get Obama elected	Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFC	Poll worker looks up: "Are you....Steamboat Willy?"	Mar 16 05:41
DaemonFC	"I'm going to need some photo ID. State of Indiana says so."	Mar 16 05:41
cubezzz2	http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/lenovo-skylight-its-first-arm-snapdragon-based-smartbook-com/	Mar 16 05:42
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DaemonFC	cubezzz2, I'm pretty conservative on some things and think that photo ID thing is bullshit	Mar 16 05:42
DaemonFC	if they need one to vote, everyone should get one for free	Mar 16 05:42
DaemonFC	no income test at all	Mar 16 05:43
Ender2070	but then the government workers can't steal a couple million dollars	Mar 16 05:43
DaemonFC	Ender2070, It should be free or it shouldn't be a requirement to vote	Mar 16 05:44
Ender2070	there were some welfare workers up here in canada who made up phoney people and bank accounts and stole welfare money	Mar 16 05:44
DaemonFC	I think they should go back to the way it used to be	Mar 16 05:44
DaemonFC	carry in a piece of mail addressed to you, like a utility bill or something	Mar 16 05:44
DaemonFC	let that be the end of it	Mar 16 05:44
DaemonFC	:)	Mar 16 05:44
DaemonFC	Ender2070, Those are state workers defrauding a state system?	Mar 16 05:45
DaemonFC	ACORN is not a group of state workers	Mar 16 05:45
Ender2070	yeah	Mar 16 05:45
Ender2070	they were caught though	Mar 16 05:45
Ender2070	imagine the ones who dont	Mar 16 05:46
cubezzz2	provincial :)	Mar 16 05:46
cubezzz2	we don't have states	Mar 16 05:46
Ender2070	i assumed thats what he meant	Mar 16 05:46
DaemonFC	Ender2070, You're talking about an inside job, I'm talking about some asshole that found it was easier to stay home and write in Disney characters on the registration forms than it was to canvass	Mar 16 05:46
DaemonFC	well no fucking shit, right?	Mar 16 05:46
DaemonFC	:D	Mar 16 05:47
DaemonFC	the simpler answer is often the correct one	Mar 16 05:47
Ender2070	politics is aa sport for the upper class, who can lie the hardest and steal the most money	Mar 16 05:47
DaemonFC	you can accept that some asshole wrote in Disney characters to make easy commission	Mar 16 05:47
DaemonFC	or that it's an Obama-Hitler-Reptilian plot	Mar 16 05:48
Ender2070	ROFL	Mar 16 05:48
Ender2070	Obama isn't reptilian	Mar 16 05:48
Ender2070	hes a clone of dna recovered from egyptian tombs	Mar 16 05:49
DaemonFC	I mean, I think Obama is pretty damned crooked in some ways, and I admire him for some of that	Mar 16 05:49
cubezzz2	don't forget the greys :-0	Mar 16 05:49
DaemonFC	but I don't think ACORN and Mickey Mouse conspired to get him elected	Mar 16 05:49
cubezzz2	I still think things were better in the 60s	Mar 16 05:49
cubezzz2	the tv shows were definitely better :)	Mar 16 05:50
DaemonFC	and I never admired Bush's crookedness, it's all about style and in what way	Mar 16 05:50
DaemonFC	Bush lost on both	Mar 16 05:50
cubezzz2	more optimistic...	Mar 16 05:50
Ender2070	things were better back in the dark ages when people were drinking mercury and trying to turn lead into gold	Mar 16 05:50
DaemonFC	lol	Mar 16 05:50
Ender2070	when the Queen of England hired a magician to do her horoscope	Mar 16 05:51
DaemonFC	you mean the Queen of Canada?	Mar 16 05:51
DaemonFC	B-)	Mar 16 05:51
DaemonFC	how is the old broad?	Mar 16 05:51
DaemonFC	:P	Mar 16 05:51
Ender2070	same monarchy	Mar 16 05:51
cubezzz2	why do they even bother	Mar 16 05:52
Ender2070	007	Mar 16 05:52
cubezzz2	the monarchy I mean :)	Mar 16 05:52
Ender2070	john dee	Mar 16 05:52
Ender2070	dude	Mar 16 05:52
DaemonFC	Ender2070, I guess I can't talk, the Bush/Clinton dual monarchy and all	Mar 16 05:52
Ender2070	queen > freemasons > UN > countries	Mar 16 05:52
DaemonFC	you spray for them and spray for them	Mar 16 05:52
DaemonFC	and they keep coming back	Mar 16 05:52
cubezzz2	you have to be careful with the "smartbooks" on ebay	Mar 16 05:53
DaemonFC	Princess Hillary of Rodham	Mar 16 05:53
cubezzz2	some are just garden variety pentiums	Mar 16 05:53
DaemonFC	now the secretary of state	Mar 16 05:53
DaemonFC	Ender2070, How big is that movement to ditch the Queen?	Mar 16 05:54
DaemonFC	I've seen them	Mar 16 05:54
Ender2070	i dunno	Mar 16 05:54
Ender2070	i try not to focus on groups too much	Mar 16 05:54
DaemonFC	tells you she's not a real queen	Mar 16 05:55
DaemonFC	a real queen would order the card guards "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!"	Mar 16 05:55
DaemonFC	am I right? :)	Mar 16 05:55
Ender2070	Queen Elizibeth is the queen for sure	Mar 16 05:55
cubezzz2	no, that's Alice in Wonderland :)	Mar 16 05:55
DaemonFC	those Swiss honor guards at the Vatican	Mar 16 05:55
DaemonFC	THEY look like card guards	Mar 16 05:55
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Ender2070	a lot of people forget that our freedom is still in her hands	Mar 16 05:56
cubezzz2	the people have to pay for all that stuff	Mar 16 05:56
cubezzz2	the monarchy, buckingham palace, and all that	Mar 16 05:56
DaemonFC	http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/00/1d/40/2b/swiss-guard-at-the-vatican.jpg	Mar 16 05:56
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Ender2070	we have to pay for the queens military too	Mar 16 05:56
DaemonFC	is that what you call it?	Mar 16 05:57
DaemonFC	:D	Mar 16 05:57
Ender2070	thats what I call it	Mar 16 05:57
DaemonFC	well alright then	Mar 16 05:57
Ender2070	command of our military is in her hands	Mar 16 05:57
DaemonFC	just keep buying it from us	Mar 16 05:57
DaemonFC	and we're cool	Mar 16 05:57
Ender2070	right now its indirect	Mar 16 05:57
Ender2070	there is a 3rd party in her place	Mar 16 05:58
Ender2070	under her command though	Mar 16 05:58
DaemonFC	wait til it's old, dumb it down to where it's no match for ours of that class, and sell them	Mar 16 05:58
DaemonFC	booyah!	Mar 16 05:58
DaemonFC	the block upgrades on or F-18s make them a very different fighter than the CF-18	Mar 16 05:59
Ender2070	the only military systems in my opinion that matter are defense	Mar 16 05:59
Ender2070	and you provide that for us	Mar 16 05:59
Ender2070	:)	Mar 16 05:59
DaemonFC	we are Canada's defense	Mar 16 06:00
DaemonFC	Mexico could sneeze and blow your miltiary down	Mar 16 06:00
Ender2070	we'll know if someone launches a pop bottle rocket towards canada from moscow	Mar 16 06:00
Ender2070	thanks to your satellites	Mar 16 06:00
DaemonFC	they're more accurate than you know	Mar 16 06:00
DaemonFC	those stories they leak themselves	Mar 16 06:01
DaemonFC	I would	Mar 16 06:01
cubezzz2	we don't have nukes either :)	Mar 16 06:01
Ender2070	military technology is always 50 years more advanced	Mar 16 06:01
Ender2070	and thats conservative	Mar 16 06:01
DaemonFC	some guy in Russia farted and we went to DEFCON 1	Mar 16 06:01
cubezzz2	but we're good at hockey :)	Mar 16 06:01
DaemonFC	Putin is laughing and thinks it happened	Mar 16 06:01
DaemonFC	rest of the world says "They suck!!!"	Mar 16 06:01
DaemonFC	it was a deliberate leak	Mar 16 06:01
cubezzz2	Ender2070, you think the military has cpus 50 years more advanced?	Mar 16 06:01
Ender2070	yes	Mar 16 06:02
cubezzz2	that would have to be pretty advanced	Mar 16 06:02
DaemonFC	no coutry with tight control of the military would let a story like that leak	Mar 16 06:02
DaemonFC	had it actually happened	Mar 16 06:02
DaemonFC	*country	Mar 16 06:02
Ender2070	they probably already have ai	Mar 16 06:02
cubezzz2	things always get leaked	Mar 16 06:02
DaemonFC	they control the media	Mar 16 06:02
DaemonFC	they leak whatever they want	Mar 16 06:02
DaemonFC	cover up anything they don't	Mar 16 06:03
Ender2070	nothings leaked from area 51	Mar 16 06:03
cubezzz2	really	Mar 16 06:03
cubezzz2	I talked to a guy who was in there	Mar 16 06:03
Ender2070	yeah, and did he show u aliens?	Mar 16 06:04
Ender2070	cause thats all fake	Mar 16 06:04
cubezzz2	no :)	Mar 16 06:04
Ender2070	i bet you he mentioned working on UFO's	Mar 16 06:04
Ender2070	experimental aircraft	Mar 16 06:04
cubezzz2	he said that he didn't see anything that liked like it was off planet	Mar 16 06:04
Ender2070	not aliens	Mar 16 06:04
cubezzz2	looked	Mar 16 06:04
DaemonFC	Canada has a military to save face	Mar 16 06:04
DaemonFC	if something makes it through us, you're fucked	Mar 16 06:05
cubezzz2	we fight mainly on the ice DaemonFC :)	Mar 16 06:05
DaemonFC	if we declare war on you, you're fucked	Mar 16 06:05
DaemonFC	why have a military?	Mar 16 06:05
DaemonFC	save the money	Mar 16 06:05
Ender2070	dude that would never even happen	Mar 16 06:05
cubezzz2	cubezzz, yeah I guess we'll spent the money on good health care instead :)	Mar 16 06:05
cubezzz2	and schools and roads	Mar 16 06:05
Ender2070	if you declare war on canada you declare war on the commonwealth	Mar 16 06:06
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DaemonFC	all of it put together? :)	Mar 16 06:06
cubezzz2	the US isn't in any shape to declare war on anyone	Mar 16 06:07
DaemonFC	I think I know this one	Mar 16 06:07
DaemonFC	the Power Rangers?	Mar 16 06:07
cubezzz2	just concentrate on jobs, seriously	Mar 16 06:07
cubezzz2	and making stuff	Mar 16 06:07
DaemonFC	blowing shit up	Mar 16 06:07
DaemonFC	that's a job	Mar 16 06:07
DaemonFC	just ask jono, Ubuntu take shit that works and blows it up	Mar 16 06:08
Ender2070	all of a sudden	Mar 16 06:08
DaemonFC	right?	Mar 16 06:08
Ender2070	in space	Mar 16 06:08
cubezzz2	I don't use Ubuntu :)	Mar 16 06:08
Ender2070	Canadarm detaches from the ISS	Mar 16 06:08
cubezzz2	I use embedix and Fedora	Mar 16 06:08
Ender2070	heads on a collission course with the white house	Mar 16 06:09
cubezzz2	Canada/US should just concentrate on trade	Mar 16 06:09
Ender2070	the fingers morph and the middle finger is shown with pride	Mar 16 06:09
cubezzz2	once again, I much rather the US had a healthy economy	Mar 16 06:10
Ender2070	nah	Mar 16 06:11
Ender2070	Canada is going to have a stronger dollar in the summer	Mar 16 06:11
cubezzz2	that's not too great if you sell to the US	Mar 16 06:12
Ender2070	thats fine	Mar 16 06:12
Ender2070	the buying power will balance it out	Mar 16 06:13
Ender2070	when our dollar went over shortly last time so many people went over the border to buy stuff	Mar 16 06:14
DaemonFC	sweet	Mar 16 06:15
DaemonFC	almost makes you want to manipulate your currency	Mar 16 06:15
DaemonFC	like China	Mar 16 06:15
DaemonFC	right?	Mar 16 06:15
Ender2070	you guys charge way less sales tax	Mar 16 06:15
DaemonFC	7%	Mar 16 06:16
Ender2070	yeah	Mar 16 06:16
DaemonFC	in Indiana anyway	Mar 16 06:16
Ender2070	13% for me	Mar 16 06:16
DaemonFC	Ender2070, It used to be 5%	Mar 16 06:16
Ender2070	its going up to 21%	Mar 16 06:16
DaemonFC	it's gone up the last few years	Mar 16 06:16
Ender2070	some states dont have it	Mar 16 06:16
cubezzz2	what?	Mar 16 06:17
Ender2070	or used to not have it	Mar 16 06:17
DaemonFC	yeah, ask them how their income tax is	Mar 16 06:17
DaemonFC	or property tax	Mar 16 06:17
cubezzz2	it's 12% isn't it?	Mar 16 06:17
cubezzz2	no 13%	Mar 16 06:17
DaemonFC	the government gets whatever it wants	Mar 16 06:17
Ender2070	no	Mar 16 06:17
Ender2070	its 13	Mar 16 06:17
cubezzz2	8% + 5%	Mar 16 06:17
DaemonFC	however they want to take it	Mar 16 06:17
cubezzz2	yeah	Mar 16 06:17
Ender2070	going to 21	Mar 16 06:17
Ender2070	when they merge	Mar 16 06:17
cubezzz2	ugh	Mar 16 06:17
cubezzz2	that's a ripoff	Mar 16 06:18
Ender2070	gotta fund quebecs money hemoraging	Mar 16 06:18
DaemonFC	Indiana has 3.4% income tax	Mar 16 06:18
DaemonFC	7% sales tax	Mar 16 06:18
DaemonFC	1% property tax	Mar 16 06:18
cubezzz2	Ender2070, sometimes when I buy on ebay I don't pay tax	Mar 16 06:18
DaemonFC	why do you think I try to buy everything online?	Mar 16 06:18
Ender2070	in quebec they throw free money at people	Mar 16 06:18
DaemonFC	yay tax evasion!	Mar 16 06:18
Ender2070	they pay people to move there	Mar 16 06:19
cubezzz2	it's not evasion :)	Mar 16 06:19
cubezzz2	I wasn't charged tax	Mar 16 06:19
DaemonFC	well, accordign to Indiana law, I have to fill out a form telling them everything I bought online and didn't pay Indiana taxes on	Mar 16 06:19
Ender2070	and they lied and said it was a gift ;)	Mar 16 06:19
DaemonFC	now they can suck my dick in reality	Mar 16 06:19
Ender2070	not me	Mar 16 06:19
DaemonFC	but in law, I owe them	Mar 16 06:19
cubezzz2	DaemonFC, how are they doing to find out?	Mar 16 06:20
DaemonFC	cubezzz, mutual spying	Mar 16 06:20
Ender2070	cubezzz2 they randomly do duties, which is tac	Mar 16 06:20
DaemonFC	mutual compacts with other states to enforce each others taxation law	Mar 16 06:20
Ender2070	cubezzz2 they randomly do duties, which is tax*	Mar 16 06:20
cubezzz2	Ender2070, yeah	Mar 16 06:20
cubezzz2	sometimes they don't bother	Mar 16 06:20
cubezzz2	even on laptops	Mar 16 06:20
DaemonFC	cubezzz, The states aren't obligated to enforce each others laws, but they can agree to	Mar 16 06:21
Ender2070	as long as its small yeah	Mar 16 06:21
DaemonFC	in sales tax, that makes sense	Mar 16 06:21
cubezzz2	if I buy within Canada I seem to always pay tax though	Mar 16 06:21
Ender2070	one ebay seller tried to make me pay 15% tax in USD	Mar 16 06:21
cubezzz2	it sucks paying tax on used stuff	Mar 16 06:21
cubezzz2	lol	Mar 16 06:21
cubezzz2	how did they figure that?	Mar 16 06:22
DaemonFC	How does it work in Canada? Are provinces obligated to enforce anothers laws?	Mar 16 06:22
Ender2070	i said i wanted proof they were going to pay it to the canadian government	Mar 16 06:22
DaemonFC	like taxation and stuff?	Mar 16 06:22
cubezzz2	DaemonFC, no idea	Mar 16 06:22
Ender2070	they called me on the phone and bitched but didnt give me bad feedback for canceling	Mar 16 06:22
cubezzz2	if I buy out of province I don't pay sales tax	Mar 16 06:22
cubezzz2	Ender2070, where does the 15% come from?	Mar 16 06:23
Ender2070	oh thats what it used to be	Mar 16 06:23
DaemonFC	civil contracts are different, one state's court system might be able to modify a contract issued out of state	Mar 16 06:23
cubezzz2	shouldn't it be 13% in Canadian?	Mar 16 06:23
DaemonFC	like an Indiana court can dissolve a marriage performed in California	Mar 16 06:23
DaemonFC	:P	Mar 16 06:23
Ender2070	this was years ago	Mar 16 06:23
Ender2070	when it was 15%	Mar 16 06:24
cubezzz2	ah	Mar 16 06:24
cubezzz2	ok then, 15% in Canadian	Mar 16 06:24
DaemonFC	you have to live here 6 months before you can ask for that though	Mar 16 06:24
DaemonFC	divorce being the best part of marriage I can see why anticipation would set in	Mar 16 06:24
Ender2070	no i was required to convert to usd	Mar 16 06:24
Ender2070	it would have been the same, but being usd i didnt think they were going to be paying the taxes on it	Mar 16 06:25
Ender2070	they never proved they would either	Mar 16 06:25
Ender2070	most of the ebay people just pocket it	Mar 16 06:26
cubezzz2	ka-ching	Mar 16 06:27
Ender2070	lol one guy charged me $20 for shipping and got mad when I found out it cost $10	Mar 16 06:28
cubezzz2	well it's OK to charge a little for handling	Mar 16 06:28
Ender2070	I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for them damn shipping receipts	Mar 16 06:29
Ender2070	$10 handling for a laptop bag?	Mar 16 06:29
cubezzz2	I've seen the reverse happen too	Mar 16 06:29
cubezzz2	didn't charge me enough to cover the shipping	Mar 16 06:29
cubezzz2	OK, maybe it should have been $4 ;)	Mar 16 06:29
Ender2070	his defense	Mar 16 06:30
Ender2070	"everyone on ebay does this"	Mar 16 06:30
cubezzz2	well as long as he/she tells you the shipping cost clearly in the auction	Mar 16 06:31
Ender2070	and guess what	Mar 16 06:31
Ender2070	it was a counterfeit laptop bag too	Mar 16 06:31
Ender2070	well maybe not counterfeit	Mar 16 06:32
Ender2070	it was targus but it had ibm stuff all over it	Mar 16 06:32
cubezzz2	I bet he waters down his listerine too!	Mar 16 06:34
cubezzz2	;-)	Mar 16 06:34
Ender2070	mmmmmmmmmmmm	Mar 16 06:36
DaemonFC	http://www.techrockies.com/story/0027434.html	Mar 16 06:36
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Ender2070	ever notice all the people on toothpaste commercials with the sparkling teeth aren't too intelligent?	Mar 16 06:36
DaemonFC	Microsoft slipped SCO $2 million in their IV	Mar 16 06:37
Ender2070	lol	Mar 16 06:38
cubezzz2	that's Bill Gates couch money	Mar 16 06:39
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Ender2070	Microsoft spends $ 400 million on paying websites to delist from google	Mar 16 06:40
cubezzz2	pfffft	Mar 16 06:40
Ender2070	and bing propaganda	Mar 16 06:40
cubezzz2	they fight dirty	Mar 16 06:40
Ender2070	did you see their earnings report?	Mar 16 06:40
Ender2070	-$400 million?	Mar 16 06:40
cubezzz2	google can pay me to delist from bing if they want :)	Mar 16 06:40
Ender2070	i think ill delist from bing just for the principal of it	Mar 16 06:41
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Ender2070	Eminem is a freemason	Mar 16 07:21
Ender2070	Eminem, or M&M, or MM = MASTER MASON	Mar 16 07:22
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The truth about Judge Scalia http://ur1.ca/pyei #douchebag		Mar 16 07:27
Diablo-D3	uh	Mar 16 07:28
Diablo-D3	who the fuck is angrykeyboarder?	Mar 16 07:28
Diablo-D3	http://identi.ca/notice/24894064	Mar 16 07:28
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Diablo-D3	he says that, but not in response to anything	Mar 16 07:28
Diablo-D3	oh wait	Mar 16 07:29
Diablo-D3	it is in response	Mar 16 07:29
Diablo-D3	FROM SOMETHING I SAID 23 DAYS AGO	Mar 16 07:30
Diablo-D3	AND THAT HE ALREADY RESPONDED TO 14 DAYS AGO	Mar 16 07:30
Diablo-D3	wow	Mar 16 07:30
Diablo-D3	talk about a microsoft shill	Mar 16 07:30
DaemonFC	http://www.pcworld.com/article/191583/dell_sues_five_lcd_makers_for_alleged_pricefixing.html	Mar 16 07:35
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Diablo-D3	yeah, uh	Mar 16 07:36
Diablo-D3	they're a little behind on that	Mar 16 07:36
Diablo-D3	I dont think they CAN sue for it	Mar 16 07:37
Diablo-D3	they'd have to sue taiwan, the european union, and the DoJ to get a cut	Mar 16 07:37
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Finally made twitter app work with custom controls: http://www.twitpic.com/18wd1j . Needs lot of cosmetic changes;		Mar 16 07:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s Console Strategy: Imitation and Patenting http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/16/embarrassing-xbox-strategy/		Mar 16 07:46
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: sounds like old news	Mar 16 07:51
schestowitz	But why is it DELL that's suing?	Mar 16 07:51
schestowitz	It's a federal obligatiohn	Mar 16 07:51
schestowitz	They got busted before	Mar 16 07:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Theory That #Microsoft Played Role in #Apple ’s Lawsuit Against #Linux and Against #Google http://ur1.ca/pyhw		Mar 16 07:52
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schestowitz	The "LCD cartel"	Mar 16 07:52
schestowitz	"@schestowitz last year, apparently! now if best buy would join them..." http://identi.ca/notice/24918525	Mar 16 07:52
phIRCe-BNc	Title: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Tuesday, 16-Mar-10 07:10:09 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.34 KB	Mar 16 07:52
schestowitz	"@openuniverse didn't they go bust?"	Mar 16 07:53
schestowitz	Circuit City still around???	Mar 16 07:53
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, Tiger Direct owns them	Mar 16 07:56
DaemonFC	they're just a "brand" now	Mar 16 07:56
DaemonFC	no physical stores	Mar 16 07:56
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Circuit City was even shittier than Best Buy	Mar 16 07:57
DaemonFC	if you can process that :P	Mar 16 07:57
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cubezzz2	76 deg C on cpus	Mar 16 08:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kaspersky Slams #Windows for Insecurity, #Microsoft Delivers Bad Patches and Leaves Windows Exposed http://ur1.ca/pypb		Mar 16 08:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Today is birthday of RMS - greatest person in digital industry #rms #happybirthday #weloverms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman		Mar 16 09:30
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cubezzz2	windows is like cockroaches :)	Mar 16 09:37
cubezzz2	anyways, Microsoft is boring	Mar 16 09:38
cubezzz2	same boring crap every time	Mar 16 09:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft expands its indoctrination programme in #California with endorsement from Arnold Schwarzenegger http://ur1.ca/pyvs		Mar 16 09:43
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cubezzz2	are the states still suing microsoft?	Mar 16 09:46
schestowitz	Yes	Mar 16 09:49
schestowitz	Canada too	Mar 16 09:49
schestowitz	BC	Mar 16 09:49
schestowitz	What I told you, small companies in Europe move to linux! inspection , large fines avoided	Mar 16 09:49
schestowitz	From: Branimir Maksimovic <bmaxa@hotmail.com> (None)	Mar 16 09:49
schestowitz	Date: Monday 15 Mar 2010 07:42:11	Mar 16 09:49
schestowitz	Groups: comp.os.linux.advocacy	Mar 16 09:49
schestowitz	google translated (funny) from croatian linux group:	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	mate we have a small company of unrelated components, but there are 6-7	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	mate connected and serve the majority of office-(piskaranje word and	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	excel) and surf-(firefox) and are linked to network	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	I frendu recommended and installed linux-gnewsense (based on ubuntu)	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	just for these things, and explained to him the win. waste licenses and other	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	Sra ..- (normally a man does not kuzi bass in the components) after all I explained to him	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	it is unstable and very bad system, because every month you-2	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	beckon technicians to a clean computer from viruses	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	and so came inspections and how come so crestfallen Oslo inflammation and comp	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	the freedom ma'am ma'am LINUX-(lived Richard Stallman)	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	and pasha, she thought little obrstit and earn a state budget that	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	and received thousands setnjicu heheheh	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	mate we appreciate and pray to the floor and says all the happiness that we have put	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	the linux Moro because I'm not a huge penalty to pay pal 7 + 7	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	licenses for winshitse + if you find that krekani shearware double penalty)	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	eh to see the face of the inspection and how they sagnutih head osli it	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	PRICLESS absolutely and totally pwned ownage hehe just dusevno	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	satisfaction that no money can not buy:)	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	ps. Always keep printed GPL and LGPL, so they let the bay to	Mar 16 09:50
schestowitz	read-(if you know English, of course:))	Mar 16 09:50
cubezzz2	ummm	Mar 16 10:00
cubezzz2	that's a bit hard to decipher :)	Mar 16 10:00
cubezzz2	Serbian maybe?	Mar 16 10:01
cubezzz2	I think he likes Linux anyways :)	Mar 16 10:01
cubezzz2	oh, Croatian :)	Mar 16 10:02
cubezzz2	I was close	Mar 16 10:02
cubezzz2	bad translation...	Mar 16 10:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mono and #Novell Influence Increases in the #GNOME Foundation http://bit.ly/cKljH8 #microsoft		Mar 16 10:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Numpty Physics like game made in EFL http://tr.im/S4dW I'd love a port for the #freerunner hopefully it'll be easy to bake a recipe.		Mar 16 10:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Time to Learn from #China on Open Standards? http://bit.ly/co73Db the #EU wants to look stupid over patents in open standards		Mar 16 10:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BSA Blames Lack of #Patents for #Europe Being ‘Behind’, EPO Loses €2 Million in Kaupthing Bankruptcy http://ur1.ca/pz4f		Mar 16 10:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Skype Limited hereby separately grants to you a license under its patents to use this software http://i5.be/aCi		Mar 16 10:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Thailand protesters are donating blood. I do not think this is the best way to proceed, it reminds me of Patrick Pearce.		Mar 16 10:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Yes, it's today http://tr.im/S4j1 ♺ @virdbitaly: ♺ ia: Happy birthday, @rms! #gnu :-)		Mar 16 10:37
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Thailand protesters are donating blood. I do not think this is the best way to proceed, it reminds me of Patrick Pearce.		Mar 16 10:37
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phIRCe-BNc	Hello World!	Mar 16 11:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ‘Pulls a #SCO ’ in #India (Against #GNU #Linux ) http://ur1.ca/pzh1 #google #ibm #antitrust #hypocrite		Mar 16 11:19
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MinceR	j0	Mar 16 11:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Nos seminarios Tagus com @oestux @igama @p300 etc...		Mar 16 11:46
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Some interesting reading here: Microsoft (?) accuses IBM of Mainframe monopoly in india : http://tinyurl.com/yakoffm #irony		Mar 16 12:07
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oiaohm	Really I am happy over that MS one.	Mar 16 12:10
oiaohm	Attacking IBM gives IBM more reason to support open source	Mar 16 12:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Government Should Avoid Proprietary Software and ‘Clouds’ http://ur1.ca/pzuv #freesoftware #obama #saas		Mar 16 12:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Depois do @p300 e de mim, esta agora a falar o Diogo Rebelo da DRI/ESOP #tagus2010		Mar 16 12:14
oiaohm	Its not just goverments schestowitz with avoid Proprietray Software and Clouds	Mar 16 12:16
oiaohm	Everyone should	Mar 16 12:16
oiaohm	If you don't control your data you don't control you future. Someone else does.	Mar 16 12:17
schestowitz	http://identi.ca/notice/24936766 "@schestowitz so who will buy NOVLs IP portfolio? My bet is obvious ..."	Mar 16 12:20
phIRCe-BNc	Title: Jan Wildeboer (jwildeboer) 's status on Tuesday, 16-Mar-10 11:15:49 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.07 KB	Mar 16 12:20
schestowitz	oiaohm: yes, but..	Mar 16 12:20
schestowitz	This is about Kundra	Mar 16 12:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Mario Martins Javali/ESOP vai falar novamente :) #tagus2010		Mar 16 12:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Migracoes de "sistemas legac" nice touch ;) #tagus2010		Mar 16 12:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Brad Smith about the HTC-Apple fight: "The fact that there’s litigation in this area is not necessarily a bad thing" http://i5.be/aCm		Mar 16 12:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Salgado, da Log #tagus2010		Mar 16 12:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] E antes dele, o @igama #tagus2010		Mar 16 12:44
oiaohm	MS is really foolish.	Mar 16 12:44
oiaohm	If Apple loses the patent war MS will not be the one to gain.	Mar 16 12:44
schestowitz	How so?	Mar 16 12:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Luis Passarinho da CapGemini no #tagus2010		Mar 16 12:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] oh ceus, que desgraca de intervencao #tagus2010		Mar 16 12:54
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oiaohm	schestowitz: Apple markets and MS markets basically don't over lap. Or where they do MS is a spent force.	Mar 16 12:59
schestowitz	http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7683	Mar 16 13:11
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schestowitz	oiaohm: it's about sw patents	Mar 16 13:11
schestowitz	Apple helps Microsoft in that regard	Mar 16 13:11
schestowitz	Putting it in people's faces	Mar 16 13:11
oiaohm	Result of losing open patent battle can be death of a company schestowitz	Mar 16 13:13
oiaohm	Nokia and HTC are not going to stop just at software patents when they have to defend self.	Mar 16 13:13
schestowitz	http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2011348061_gravesobit15.html	Mar 16 13:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear people complaining about buttons. You do not speak for the entire community. Stop talking like you do. Love popey.		Mar 16 13:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft #Bing in the Business of Deceit, #Censorship , and Brainwash http://ur1.ca/q08h #google #bribe		Mar 16 13:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[emacs_user] @schestowitz: It's ironic that MS is reduced to using old technology, television to advertise BING, the decision engine :)		Mar 16 14:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @Technoviking: What is awesome? Batman fighting a shark with a lightsaber, that's whats awesome. http://i.imgur.com/cKJLJ.jpg -- comedy!		Mar 16 15:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning all, first call done. :-)		Mar 16 15:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New Shot Of Jaq! Opening The Filthy Lucre - http://is.gd/aKG8e - your views/opinions on OSS project generating money to fund dev? #shotofjaq		Mar 16 16:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Story of linux users group bikaner http://post.ly/TCwL		Mar 16 16:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] US envoy George Mitchell has postponed a visit to Israel amidst their continuing row. http://is.gd/aKIcW #palestine #occupation		Mar 16 16:36
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] US envoy George Mitchell has postponed a visit to Israel amidst their continuing row. http://is.gd/aKIcW #palestine #occupation		Mar 16 16:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Orkut hide rightclick on image by using ==> oncontextmenu=return false; Good Trick #web		Mar 16 16:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] downloaded full ubuntu karmic repo using rsync - total 41GB		Mar 16 16:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] «Governo assinou contrato do programa e.escolinha antes de criar fundação para geri-lo, acusa PSD» http://is.gd/aKJeu		Mar 16 16:51
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Just back home after #tweetup . Had good time in ascendas :). KFC's zinger meal was yummy :D . Thanks you guys :)		Mar 16 17:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Come and join me at my Ubuntu Global Jam event here in Berkeley on Fri 26th March - http://is.gd/aKKE3 #ubuntu		Mar 16 17:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @emacs_user yeah, for #Vista7 too. It wasn't MY idea.		Mar 16 17:16
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Nice metin u @OmkarDash @shivaranjan @mageshcse @yeskay @omniprasan @dilipm @sup3rkiddo @benndictherold @bsherly @pprakash @vigneash @g33f		Mar 16 17:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Digital Economy Bill ( #debil ) is being rushed through because people start to make noise about it		Mar 16 17:25
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*schestowitz '-._.-'		Mar 16 17:29
sebsebseb	schestowitz: what's that?	Mar 16 17:30
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schestowitz	http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/cracking-open-five-of-the-best-open-source-easter-eggs.ars	Mar 16 17:35
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schestowitz	sebsebseb: it's a drawing. For you.	Mar 16 17:36
sebsebseb	schestowitz: yeah, a face?	Mar 16 17:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin see what you think of this show: http://www.thesourceshow.org/node/11		Mar 16 17:38
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schestowitz	http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Intel-X25V-and-OCZ-Onyx/	Mar 16 17:41
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schestowitz	sebsebseb: sort of	Mar 16 17:41
schestowitz	Improvised	Mar 16 17:41
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Black car dealer roughed up by cops, charged with stealing license plates after performing his job http://ur1.ca/q1cp #douchebags		Mar 16 17:42
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schestowitz	http://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-powered-synthesizer	Mar 16 17:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In 25mins is my Ubuntu Global Jam videocast - how to get involved and organize an event - watch live at http://is.gd/aKMmJ #ubuntu		Mar 16 17:45
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Don't worry though, police are racist to other police too http://ur1.ca/q1ds #douchebags		Mar 16 17:47
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schestowitz	neighborlee: http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/16/incorporation-of-mono-gnome/	Mar 16 17:48
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neighborlee	schestowitz: ok thx	Mar 16 17:48
schestowitz	The Moonlight thing didn't change much	Mar 16 17:49
schestowitz	I can get you a link.......	Mar 16 17:49
schestowitz	I use KDE	Mar 16 17:50
schestowitz	but GNOME is still half the plate	Mar 16 17:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC News - Man assaulted female police officer with penis http://tinyurl.com/ybcz27o		Mar 16 17:51
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neighborlee	schestowitz: half indeed	Mar 16 17:51
neighborlee	yeah im totally going kde..pcbsd and kde all the way since I adore bsd license < more free >	Mar 16 17:52
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] "... dinosaurs were born of Satanic angel who has sex with woman and the animal kingdom..." http://ur1.ca/q1ea #douchebag #wtf		Mar 16 17:52
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neighborlee	BNi: EEEK	Mar 16 17:53
schestowitz	How's it in phones?	Mar 16 17:53
schestowitz	Android uses own toolkit	Mar 16 17:53
*WireWulf notes android and droid are better then hypePhone(iPhone)		Mar 16 17:54
schestowitz	But they don't have Apple logo	Mar 16 17:55
schestowitz	Thus not blessed by the cult's inner circles	Mar 16 17:55
WireWulf	so what	Mar 16 17:55
WireWulf	cults kill	Mar 16 17:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @thistleweb it sounds like this story was sexed up		Mar 16 17:56
*WireWulf notes steven jobs is a sell out		Mar 16 17:56
neighborlee	yeah well, when money is a driving force as in most of us can't get by without it < or without certain amounts of it blah> it tends to 'influence' people and results ;)	Mar 16 17:57
neighborlee	remove that system and we might get back to some assemblance of humanity ;)	Mar 16 17:57
schestowitz	neighborlee: Mono has slowed down though	Mar 16 17:57
neighborlee	imho	Mar 16 17:57
schestowitz	WireWulf: BN is no friend of Apple	Mar 16 17:57
schestowitz	It never was	Mar 16 17:57
schestowitz	And since the lawsuit we're slamming Apple daily	Mar 16 17:57
schestowitz	With facts	Mar 16 17:57
schestowitz	Not cheap shots	Mar 16 17:57
neighborlee	schestowitz: glad to hear that..if only ubuntu would get the clue	Mar 16 17:57
schestowitz	They added gbrainy	Mar 16 17:58
schestowitz	And hooks for banshee	Mar 16 17:58
neighborlee	wth is that LOL	Mar 16 17:58
neighborlee	googling	Mar 16 17:58
WireWulf	lol BN/	Mar 16 17:58
schestowitz	ANd Bong	Mar 16 17:58
WireWulf	BN?	Mar 16 17:58
schestowitz	Bong [sic] for Ubuntu users	Mar 16 17:58
schestowitz	WireWulf: BoycottNovell	Mar 16 17:58
neighborlee	ah brain teaser	Mar 16 17:58
WireWulf	lol	Mar 16 17:58
schestowitz	neighborlee: teaser indeed	Mar 16 17:59
neighborlee	how IRONIC ;))	Mar 16 17:59
neighborlee	o_0	Mar 16 17:59
*WireWulf is no friend of corp's that steal free software		Mar 16 17:59
schestowitz	Ballmer: "tease me, bia*ch, put some .NET Trojans in your scoff"	Mar 16 17:59
neighborlee	lol	Mar 16 17:59
schestowitz	WireWulf: not steal	Mar 16 18:00
schestowitz	Misuse	Mar 16 18:00
neighborlee	ah ic so deeper into mono they go...happy joy	Mar 16 18:00
schestowitz	Exploit	Mar 16 18:00
WireWulf	schestowitz: yeah excuse me it is only stealing if we took it back from the corps	Mar 16 18:00
schestowitz	You can't steal code	Mar 16 18:00
schestowitz	It's really hard	Mar 16 18:01
WireWulf	lol gpl code is freely shared	Mar 16 18:01
neighborlee	just look at healthcare debate..its all about money and influence..same thing with m$ and mono blah blah...to heck with users health needs and patent encumberments ;)	Mar 16 18:01
WireWulf	:P	Mar 16 18:01
schestowitz	You'd have to delete all your victim's copy and then claim copyright for the copies you have	Mar 16 18:01
schestowitz	Or keep them secret	Mar 16 18:01
schestowitz	*copies	Mar 16 18:01
schestowitz	neighborlee: yes	Mar 16 18:01
schestowitz	I write about healthcare	Mar 16 18:02
neighborlee	yea its a real mess	Mar 16 18:02
schestowitz	Thank Spaghetti Monster that we have NHS here	Mar 16 18:02
schestowitz	It's not my problem, but it is in a sense	Mar 16 18:02
schestowitz	Obama lobbies for ACTA	Mar 16 18:02
neighborlee	well yes	Mar 16 18:02
schestowitz	Helps the Big Banks	Mar 16 18:02
neighborlee	EU etc., has real health care in place..at least a great attempt	Mar 16 18:02
neighborlee	or so I hear	Mar 16 18:02
schestowitz	gives up on something he promised voters (AFAIK)	Mar 16 18:02
Diablo-D3	obama needs to be removed from office	Mar 16 18:02
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Diablo-D3	ACTA is illegal under the constitution	Mar 16 18:02
schestowitz	The #1 issue in the US is healthcare	Mar 16 18:02
schestowitz	Not wars	Mar 16 18:02
neighborlee	should be anyway yes	Mar 16 18:03
Diablo-D3	it is equivalent to foreign rule	Mar 16 18:03
Diablo-D3	not "should be", very much is	Mar 16 18:03
neighborlee	if iraq war had not existed..health care would have a 'shot in the arm' ;))	Mar 16 18:03
schestowitz	Diablo-D3: constitution schmuckstition	Mar 16 18:03
Diablo-D3	its also why most of Europe rejected it	Mar 16 18:03
schestowitz	Did you see what they did to Habeas corpus?	Mar 16 18:03
Diablo-D3	schestowitz: yes, and I will demand my rights.	Mar 16 18:03
schestowitz	"I'm a wartime president!!"	Mar 16 18:04
Diablo-D3	If they deny me my rights, I have no reason to not arrest terrorists right there and then	Mar 16 18:04
Diablo-D3	if I die defending my country, so be it.	Mar 16 18:04
schestowitz	Have we have digital economy bill	Mar 16 18:04
schestowitz	Similar crime	Mar 16 18:04
schestowitz	They try to pass it	Mar 16 18:04
schestowitz	For BPI	Mar 16 18:04
schestowitz	Diablo-D3: Carlin has a good video about it	Mar 16 18:05
schestowitz	It's not your country	Mar 16 18:05
schestowitz	Hold on...	Mar 16 18:05
schestowitz	Diablo-D3: http://boycottnovell.com/videos/carlin-on-america.ogg	Mar 16 18:05
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WireWulf	heh	Mar 16 18:06
schestowitz	http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/management/features/article.php/3867506/Top-10-Data-Storage-Technologies-That-Coul	Mar 16 18:06
WireWulf	america was attacked	Mar 16 18:06
WireWulf	we have a right to kill the persons behide it	Mar 16 18:06
WireWulf	and those who harber them	Mar 16 18:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to start my live videocast about how to organize an Ubuntu Global Jam event - watch and chat live at http://bit.ly/wWBiQ #ubuntu		Mar 16 18:07
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Diablo-D3	schestowitz: I do not accept foreign rule	Mar 16 18:07
Diablo-D3	so yes, it very much is my country	Mar 16 18:07
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] So microsoft is coming up with new version of IE : http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/ #toolate Any one testing it? I M looking for #reviews		Mar 16 18:07
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Diablo-D3	anyone who says otherwise I will remove from my country, by force if necessary	Mar 16 18:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Why is Jeremy Clarkson employed when they could employ a real child?		Mar 16 18:10
schestowitz	Diablo-D3: listen to Fox	Mar 16 18:10
schestowitz	They know everything	Mar 16 18:10
schestowitz	Obama is a Maxrist from Kenya, they say :-)	Mar 16 18:10
schestowitz	He came to abduct America	Mar 16 18:10
schestowitz	They show this lady who says, "I want my country back"	Mar 16 18:10
schestowitz	As though she wants "white America" back (she doesn't say it like that)	Mar 16 18:11
schestowitz	Fox is funny	Mar 16 18:11
schestowitz	If not sick sometimes	Mar 16 18:11
schestowitz	Why is it still aired at all?	Mar 16 18:11
schestowitz	http://www.daniweb.com/news/story267323.html	Mar 16 18:11
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schestowitz	I heard that Fox is one of the highest rated channels in the US. That's just sad if true. It's like the UK being represented by the Daily Mail	Mar 16 18:12
schestowitz	Or the Sun's page 3 :-)	Mar 16 18:12
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Why is Jeremy Clarkson employed when they could employ a real child?		Mar 16 18:12
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] +100 RT @OmkarDash: It was lovely meeting #ChennaiTweeps at Ascendas today! No special mentions. All I would say is : #LoveYouAll :-) xoxo		Mar 16 18:12
neighborlee	anyone who says with a straight face, that obama is a 'terrorist' is neither to be take seriously academically,politcally or morally..	Mar 16 18:12
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neighborlee	do I think obama is perfect and to be entirely trusted ? no I dont and I have good reasons	Mar 16 18:13
neighborlee	but a terrorist...what rubbish	Mar 16 18:13
WireWulf	i hateZ progressives	Mar 16 18:13
WireWulf	:P	Mar 16 18:13
neighborlee	schestowitz: honeslty I do like gretta on fox..but only her	Mar 16 18:14
Diablo-D3	seriously?	Mar 16 18:15
Diablo-D3	gretta is an idiot	Mar 16 18:15
neighborlee	LOL	Mar 16 18:15
Diablo-D3	shes yet another professional troll	Mar 16 18:15
*schestowitz looks up gretta		Mar 16 18:15
neighborlee	Diablo-D3: she's s a highly respected lawyer ;)	Mar 16 18:15
Diablo-D3	shes a female bill o'rly	Mar 16 18:15
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schestowitz	Greta Van?	Mar 16 18:16
schestowitz	Diablo-D3: ewww	Mar 16 18:16
neighborlee	Diablo-D3: and I always found her overall objective..though I imagine she's every bit a conservative, but when I watched her she seemed objective and fair overall	Mar 16 18:16
schestowitz	You made me spill me tea [sic]	Mar 16 18:16
schestowitz	You owe me a keyboard	Mar 16 18:16
neighborlee	schestowitz: lol	Mar 16 18:16
neighborlee	hardly	Mar 16 18:16
neighborlee	bill is a nut..at least she carries herself professionally	Mar 16 18:16
schestowitz	Female doucebag?	Mar 16 18:17
neighborlee	but cusses wildly and makes ridiculous acusations..she does none of that	Mar 16 18:17
schestowitz	O'Reilly?	Mar 16 18:17
Diablo-D3	she probably has threesomes with bill and #GlennBeck	Mar 16 18:17
neighborlee	yes him	Mar 16 18:17
schestowitz	O'Reilly is Doucebag with capital "D"	Mar 16 18:17
neighborlee	glenn is amnother loser	Mar 16 18:17
schestowitz	Let me show you some video...	Mar 16 18:17
neighborlee	glenn was al over global warming as in didn't believe it.plus glen said obama was a terrorist too..another nutjob	Mar 16 18:17
Diablo-D3	Obama isnt a terrorist	Mar 16 18:17
neighborlee	of course not	Mar 16 18:18
Diablo-D3	mistaken about how the US works? sure.	Mar 16 18:18
neighborlee	I dont trust him anymore per se..but a terrorist hardly	Mar 16 18:18
Diablo-D3	but he means well	Mar 16 18:18
neighborlee	Ithink he does yes	Mar 16 18:18
schestowitz	Not this one..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gh6r5ALVMo&feature=fvw	Mar 16 18:18
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schestowitz	There's the one where they filter an interview	Mar 16 18:18
schestowitz	Very disgusting..	Mar 16 18:18
neighborlee	althugh this health care debate is way out of control..obama DID mention public optoin during his campaign..then lied about that..not good.	Mar 16 18:19
neighborlee	hm	Mar 16 18:19
neighborlee	so while in general I do like him and I think yes he means well..im not liking politics as usual in D.C.	Mar 16 18:20
lpbbear	hi all, sorry to butt in, could i mention something about the bing issue to you roy?	Mar 16 18:22
schestowitz	Wow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loVB__D6AY	Mar 16 18:22
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schestowitz	HE's scammed	Mar 16 18:23
schestowitz	Oh, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xobA2MoDzDY	Mar 16 18:23
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schestowitz	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u28JVB380Mo	Mar 16 18:24
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schestowitz	There's also the diff	Mar 16 18:24
lpbbear	hi all, sorry to butt in, could i mention something about the bing issue to you roy?	Mar 16 18:25
lpbbear	OK, I will just throw it out there, noticed your item about Bing this morning, seeing some other related issues not seen mentioned anywhere yet.	Mar 16 18:28
lpbbear	I work as a PC tech, seeing an issue with AVG AntiVirus in Windows related to Bing	Mar 16 18:28
lpbbear	I haven't had the luxury of time to tradck all of it down but it appears that sometime recently AVG has entered into some background agreement with microsoft.	Mar 16 18:29
lpbbear	during AVG install it asks to install a Yahoo toolbar, it seems to be over riding search settings in Firefox in Windows and locking Firefox search box to bing.	Mar 16 18:30
neighborlee	im not happy with avg either..it said it removes trial and gives free versoin back.but it keeps nagging you about switching to non trial version regardless...not sure about bing but defintely yahoo, which M$ owns now of course..	Mar 16 18:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Wow, I have a static ip now :) now thinking for firewall		Mar 16 18:34
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neighborlee	http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/12/obama-falsely-claims-that-senate.html < this is also interesting	Mar 16 18:34
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lpbbear	anyone see that earlier mention of AVG/Bing lockin thing I mentioned, I glitched out for a moment	Mar 16 18:46
schestowitz	jono: hey	Mar 16 18:51
schestowitz	lpbbear I meant	Mar 16 18:51
schestowitz	Catching up......	Mar 16 18:51
lpbbear	hi	Mar 16 18:51
schestowitz	lpbbear: has anyone reported this avg thing"	Mar 16 18:52
schestowitz	?	Mar 16 18:52
schestowitz	That's why Windows is bad for Firefox	Mar 16 18:52
schestowitz	Or any developer	Mar 16 18:52
schestowitz	Microsoft bullies competition over there	Mar 16 18:52
schestowitz	lpbbear: I can't reproduce here cause I don't have Windows	Mar 16 18:53
lpbbear	no, I don't believe I have seen mention of it anywhere yet	Mar 16 18:53
schestowitz	Maybe someone else can test..?	Mar 16 18:53
lpbbear	saw your article on Bing this morning and thought you would like the additional info	Mar 16 18:53
lpbbear	uwhat it appears to be doing is locking the little searchbox in the upper right corner area of Firefox to Bing	Mar 16 18:54
lpbbear	ucan't manually change to Google or anything else until you go into addons and disable the AVG yahoo addon, may have names a bit wrong, from memory	Mar 16 18:55
neighborlee	lpbbear: yup I did	Mar 16 18:55
lpbbear	I am always on the "clock" at customers sites so I haven't had the luxury of time to follow it up more.	Mar 16 18:56
neighborlee	lpbbear: I uninstalled unhappy with their constant nagging about switching from free to pay version	Mar 16 18:56
neighborlee	lpbbear: but I dont recall bing issues..yahoo toolbar yes < not good since M$ owns yahoo now>	Mar 16 18:57
lpbbear	its fairly recent, just started seeing this issue on customers systems that use Firefox	Mar 16 18:57
lpbbear	seems to me to be a clear antitrust issue even though its being used through a third party proxy by Microsoft.	Mar 16 18:58
lpbbear	I could understand if it just added a choice for Bing in the list but its locking the list to just Bing and not allowing the user the ability to switch to other choices.	Mar 16 19:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] USA begins to realise that its interests and those of Israel differ. http://is.gd/aKQUp		Mar 16 19:04
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] USA begins to realise that its interests and those of Israel differ. http://is.gd/aKQUp		Mar 16 19:07
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lpbbear	bye all	Mar 16 19:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Bhopal Bhopal Bhopal - wanna go for Linux and Open Source workshop there, any contact? any student? #bhopal #linux		Mar 16 19:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Recording from my Ubuntu Global Jam videocast today - how to set up an event and Q+A - http://is.gd/aKU3j #ubuntu		Mar 16 19:54
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Encyclopedia Dramatica author faces possibility of criminal charges because an article on his site offended an Aborigine http://ur1.ca/q22p		Mar 16 20:17
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Dear #Internet, please stop covering MSIE9. No one cares about a dead brower series from a company who doesn't care about the Internet		Mar 16 20:17
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schestowitz	Diablo-D3: how did he last this long?	Mar 16 20:20
schestowitz	Wikileaks too	Mar 16 20:20
Diablo-D3	schestowitz: I dont see how anyone can be sued for a parody site done for the lulz	Mar 16 20:21
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Remember America, when you read this, our tax dollars paid for this harassment of a lawful citizen http://ur1.ca/pccx		Mar 16 20:22
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #JooJoo is screwing around with customers http://ur1.ca/q24a #douchebags		Mar 16 20:22
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rnb	hi all	Mar 16 20:23
rnb	wow, this is amazing -> http://wikileaks.org/#us-intel-wikileaks	Mar 16 20:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Plonked on Dispised Icon's 'The Healing Process'. :-)		Mar 16 20:26
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] I'm not sure if I posted this to !science, but this guy is trying to win this to donate to cancer reasearch http://bit.ly/djGMqG		Mar 16 20:27
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schestowitz	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SCcJslv7X0&annotation_id=annotation_351057&feature=iv	Mar 16 20:32
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schestowitz	Diablo-D3: there's a boundary	Mar 16 20:32
schestowitz	BBSpot/Onion would be safe	Mar 16 20:32
schestowitz	Keeping it clean	Mar 16 20:32
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] NotionInk looks like they could be producing some awesome !Linux running tablet http://ur1.ca/q25a		Mar 16 20:32
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Hardware Support - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks		Mar 16 20:34
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Diablo-D3	schestowitz: yes, but ITS THE FUCKING INTERNETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT	Mar 16 20:41
Diablo-D3	dont like what someone says about you on the Internet? DONT READ IT	Mar 16 20:41
rnb	i have no sympathy for encyclopedia dramatica	Mar 16 20:42
rnb	throw 'em in jail, throw away the key	Mar 16 20:42
MinceR	rnb: you're no fun	Mar 16 20:43
rnb	it'd be loads of fun to see the encdrama folks carried off to jail	Mar 16 20:43
Diablo-D3	rnb: Im glad your kind isn't allowed in the US	Mar 16 20:43
Diablo-D3	otherwise we'd have to flog you with rolled up copies of the Constitution	Mar 16 20:44
rnb	i think it'd be interesting to see if encdrama folks still think rape jokes are funny	Mar 16 20:45
rnb	after spending some time in jail	Mar 16 20:46
rnb	i'm guessing not	Mar 16 20:46
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rnb	what encdrama needs to worry about is extradition treaties	Mar 16 20:48
rnb	they may be taking an unexpected vacation to the land down under	Mar 16 20:48
rnb	"J Evers, your own government has arrested people in foreign countries for decades at will, legally and illegally." haha, nice comment	Mar 16 20:48
Diablo-D3	Yes, I agree, Australia should be illegal.	Mar 16 20:48
MinceR	too many countries have jumped already on the "whoever doesn't agree with me must be silenced by the power of law" bandwagon.	Mar 16 20:49
rnb	the US is the leader in doing that	Mar 16 20:51
rnb	not -in- the united states (very often)	Mar 16 20:51
rnb	but around the world, they certainly do	Mar 16 20:51
rnb	in the US, they dont arrest you if they dont like what you are saying	Mar 16 20:52
rnb	if its really a threat what you're saying, they just kill you	Mar 16 20:52
rnb	e.g. fred hampton	Mar 16 20:53
WireWulf	WeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeWhooooooooooooooooo	Mar 16 20:53
rnb	see how much freedom of speech you get in US-occupied afghanistan	Mar 16 20:53
rnb	or US-occupied iraq	Mar 16 20:53
rnb	see how much freedom of speech the US 'military advisors' give you in bogota	Mar 16 20:54
MinceR	i didn't know that	Mar 16 20:54
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MinceR	usually they make laws to suppress freedom of speech	Mar 16 20:54
MinceR	like they did recently here in absurdistan	Mar 16 20:54
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rnb	have you all looked at the page on Aborigines on encdrama?	Mar 16 20:55
rnb	or really, the link i posted earlier is the best example of "freedom of speech" in the united states	Mar 16 20:56
rnb	it proves my point exactly	Mar 16 20:56
rnb	This document is a classifed (SECRET/NOFORN) 32 page U.S. counterintelligence investigation into WikiLeaks. ``The possibility that current employees or moles within DoD or elsewhere in the U.S. government are providing sensitive or classified information to Wikileaks.org cannot be ruled out''.	Mar 16 20:56
rnb	``The identification, exposure, termination of employment, criminal prosecution, legal action against current or former insiders, leakers, or whistlblowers could potentially damage or destroy this center of gravity and deter others considering similar actions from using the Wikileaks.org Web site''.	Mar 16 20:56
rnb	that's how freedom of speech is suppressed in the united states	Mar 16 20:57
rnb	in a sneaky, cowardly way	Mar 16 20:57
rnb	at least australia puts you on trial for what they're really putting you on trial for	Mar 16 20:57
rnb	not disrupting your freedom of speech with trumped-up charges, infiltration, "exposure" and etc	Mar 16 20:58
rnb	great Constitution!	Mar 16 20:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Divine Heresy's 'Bleed The Fifth' is rocking Castle Bacon right now. Saw these guys live, were awesome. Dino is a weird, weird dude. :-)		Mar 16 20:59
rnb	cuz i'm praaaaaaawd to beeee an americaaaaan .... where at leeeeast i knoooow i'm freeeeeee	Mar 16 20:59
rnb	come on, Diablo-D3, sing along!	Mar 16 20:59
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rnb	SING ALONG BEFORE WE CONSIDER IDENTIFICATION, EXPOSURE, TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT TO DAMAGE OR DESTROY YOU.	Mar 16 21:00
MinceR	lol	Mar 16 21:02
MinceR	214621 < rnb> have you all looked at the page on Aborigines on encdrama?	Mar 16 21:03
MinceR	it's hilarious.	Mar 16 21:03
MinceR	at least in the context of the butthurt mentioned earlier.	Mar 16 21:03
rnb	by "hilarious," you mean the pinnacle of comedy?	Mar 16 21:04
MinceR	nope	Mar 16 21:04
MinceR	i mean it's funny	Mar 16 21:04
MinceR	i've seen things that were funny and were more or less funny than that article	Mar 16 21:04
rnb	"funny" like it made you laugh?	Mar 16 21:05
MinceR	indeed	Mar 16 21:05
rnb	what part?	Mar 16 21:05
rnb	i didnt see any parts that made me laugh	Mar 16 21:05
MinceR	first of all the "What am 'satire'?" part	Mar 16 21:05
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rnb	why is that funny?	Mar 16 21:06
MinceR	are you seriously expecting me to explain a joke to you?	Mar 16 21:06
rnb	i didnt laugh	Mar 16 21:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Unleashing The Ubuntu LoCo Directory - http://is.gd/aKYcs #ubuntu #locoteams		Mar 16 21:07
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rnb	a waaaay, waaaay long time ago, maybe one time, a joke like that was kind of funny, but not really	Mar 16 21:07
MinceR	and since the Central Authority of Funny has decided that it isn't so funny, it now clearly belongs to the category of Stuff That Must Be Banned.	Mar 16 21:08
MinceR	i see.	Mar 16 21:08
rnb	but this is the exact same kind of "comedy" you get on Aryan Nation hand-outs, comic books, etc	Mar 16 21:08
rnb	it's just not funny, it's stupid	Mar 16 21:08
MinceR	if you cared to look about on ED, you'll see that they troll pretty much every single group of people in the world :>	Mar 16 21:08
DaemonFC	MinceR, http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/Red%20Dwarf/Pete2.htm	Mar 16 21:08
DaemonFC	#9 re: Matt Asay	Mar 16 21:09
MinceR	:D	Mar 16 21:09
MinceR	There's an old CAT saying, which has particular relevance here; it goes something like this: "we are all gonna die."	Mar 16 21:09
rnb	mm, no, the way i understand it is that Australian law forbids material intended to humiliate or intimidate a group of people based on their race	Mar 16 21:10
MinceR	australian law is hostile to freedom of speech, but that's no news to us	Mar 16 21:10
DaemonFC	I liked the one where he said there's an old cat saying that "It's better to live one day as a lion than your whole life as a worm."	Mar 16 21:10
MinceR	:)	Mar 16 21:10
DaemonFC	Rimmer replies "But who ever heard of a wormskin rug?"	Mar 16 21:10
rnb	eh, US law is also hostile to freedom of speech	Mar 16 21:10
rnb	see above re: wikileaks	Mar 16 21:11
MinceR	i'm not usian	Mar 16 21:11
MinceR	also, the "equally evil" defense is a fallacy	Mar 16 21:11
rnb	i wasnt finished	Mar 16 21:11
DaemonFC	rnb, My town is trying to passa THIRTY-FIVE FUCKING PAGE ordinance regulating business sign size and barring quote "OBSCENE, INAPPROPRIATE, or IMMORAL content"	Mar 16 21:11
rnb	my point is, i prefer australian law, where at least you get your day in court to argue these things	Mar 16 21:11
DaemonFC	it failed 7-0 leading me to wonder who introduced the fucking thing	Mar 16 21:11
rnb	as opposed to the US way of doing it, which is to not officially charge you for what you're saying, but sneak around and politically persecute you for what you've said	Mar 16 21:12
DaemonFC	rnb, WHO introduced it if the vote was unanimous against it?	Mar 16 21:12
DaemonFC	WHO!?!?	Mar 16 21:12
DaemonFC	:P	Mar 16 21:12
rnb	australian law seems fair in this case, whereas the US way of doing it seems like what an out-of-control police state does	Mar 16 21:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fluendo Releases Application for #GNU #Linux http://www.fluendo.com/press/fluendo-launches-ultimate-media-center-linux-operating-systems/		Mar 16 21:13
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DaemonFC	rnb, That wouldn't have lasted long, no obscene signs	Mar 16 21:13
Diablo-D3	[05:02:22] <DaemonFC> rnb, My town is trying to passa THIRTY-FIVE FUCKING PAGE ordinance regulating business sign size and barring quote "OBSCENE, INAPPROPRIATE, or IMMORAL content"	Mar 16 21:13
Diablo-D3	DaemonFC: so basically they used unenforcable text	Mar 16 21:13
DaemonFC	I'd go stand out in front of the courthouse with a sign that read "Steve Updike is a big fat FUCKING jerk!"	Mar 16 21:13
DaemonFC	and dared them to arrest me	Mar 16 21:14
Diablo-D3	which means if they even try enforcing it, you can just proceed to have the judge disbarred	Mar 16 21:14
rnb	the US is a weird, puritan culture, what do you want?	Mar 16 21:14
DaemonFC	Diablo-D3, That not only goes against the US constitution, it's unconstitutional at the state level	Mar 16 21:14
DaemonFC	Indiana's bill of rights is worded more strongly than th federal one in many areas	Mar 16 21:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Completing State of Transition to Beautiful Desktop http://ur1.ca/q2bp		Mar 16 21:15
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MinceR	"completing"?	Mar 16 21:15
Diablo-D3	DaemonFC: its unconstitutional at the planetary level.	Mar 16 21:15
DaemonFC	It wouldn't have survived the state courts, much less made it to federal appeals court	Mar 16 21:15
DaemonFC	the state courts have the authority to strike something down based on either constitution	Mar 16 21:16
DaemonFC	but they try to find some basis in the Indiana constitution first	Mar 16 21:16
DaemonFC	generally they only refer to the US constitution when they know it won't stand up in federal courts anyway	Mar 16 21:17
DaemonFC	just to get it done and over with here	Mar 16 21:17
DaemonFC	:)	Mar 16 21:17
DaemonFC	the state doesn't really like being ordered by the feds to repeal a state law	Mar 16 21:18
MinceR	actually the australian way is just like an out-of-control police state too	Mar 16 21:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Security in #GNU #Linux Fundamentally Excellent http://ur1.ca/q2cd http://ur1.ca/q2ce http://ur1.ca/q2cf		Mar 16 21:18
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DaemonFC	MinceR, The Australian federal government no only heavily censors the internet, but movies, music, and video games too	Mar 16 21:18
DaemonFC	they even had to censor the shit out of HALO to sell it there	Mar 16 21:18
rnb	MinceR: it doesnt seem out-of-control	Mar 16 21:19
rnb	MinceR: it seems quite orderly	Mar 16 21:19
MinceR	i knew about censoring the internet and video games	Mar 16 21:19
DaemonFC	the Australian government has only contempt for freedom of expression it seems	Mar 16 21:19
MinceR	rnb: yeah, police states tend to be "quite orderly"	Mar 16 21:19
MinceR	rnb: in the sense of "do exactly as i say or i kill you"	Mar 16 21:19
rnb	no, that's not what they are like	Mar 16 21:19
Diablo-D3	Australia should just be crushed	Mar 16 21:19
Diablo-D3	I'm tired of these little rebelious governments	Mar 16 21:19
Diablo-D3	Either do shit right, or gtfo	Mar 16 21:20
MinceR	i'm tired of governments	Mar 16 21:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Ease of Use in Action (Desktop) http://www.tenshu.net/archives/2010/03/15/an-adventure-with-an-hp-printerscanner-and-ubuntu/		Mar 16 21:20
Diablo-D3	no one has time for corruption	Mar 16 21:20
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MinceR	they never do anything right	Mar 16 21:20
rnb	they are like: all of a sudden one day, your dad doesnt come home. you dont know why. you ask the police, and they wont tell you anything	Mar 16 21:20
Diablo-D3	life is too short	Mar 16 21:20
DaemonFC	Diablo-D3, Australia is as repressive as a lot of these middle eastern states	Mar 16 21:20
rnb	your dad was actually kidnapped at work by the police and a "secret trial" sent him off to prison	Mar 16 21:20
DaemonFC	why don't we carpet bomb them until they agree to sell HALO uncut?	Mar 16 21:20
rnb	or wors	Mar 16 21:20
rnb	*worse	Mar 16 21:20
Diablo-D3	the middle east doesnt even exist as far as Im concerned	Mar 16 21:20
Diablo-D3	theres no way to deal with people who hate God	Mar 16 21:20
rnb	and you dont find out until years later	Mar 16 21:20
MinceR	how can you hate someone who doesn't exist? :>	Mar 16 21:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #System76 Collects Old PCs for #GNU #Linux Afterlife, #Dell Disappoints http://ur1.ca/q2cr http://ur1.ca/q2cs		Mar 16 21:21
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rnb	at least, that's how things worked in the latin american dictatorships of the 20th century	Mar 16 21:21
DaemonFC	Diablo-D3, I don't hate God, I don't generally declare war on figments of my imagination	Mar 16 21:21
DaemonFC	not healthy	Mar 16 21:21
Diablo-D3	DaemonFC: but they DO hate god	Mar 16 21:21
Diablo-D3	God says you shouldnt kill people and all people are your brothers and sisters	Mar 16 21:21
MinceR	he also kills people	Mar 16 21:21
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Diablo-D3	You may call him Allah, you may call him Yahweh, you may call him Jehova	Mar 16 21:21
MinceR	and says that you should kill people for certain things	Mar 16 21:21
DaemonFC	then all sex is incest?	Mar 16 21:21
DaemonFC	:P	Mar 16 21:22
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rnb	thats largely how things work in colombia, one of the last remaining US-supported dictatorships in latin america	Mar 16 21:22
Diablo-D3	but he is till God, and this is what he said	Mar 16 21:22
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MinceR	that badly written piece of fiction contradicts itself all the time	Mar 16 21:22
Diablo-D3	so pretty much the middle east exists in some sort of God hate state.	Mar 16 21:22
Diablo-D3	Not only that, killing people is inefficient.	Mar 16 21:22
Diablo-D3	This is why they are poor.	Mar 16 21:22
Diablo-D3	They are inefficient.	Mar 16 21:22
MinceR	it's possible to kill people efficiently :>	Mar 16 21:22
Diablo-D3	MinceR: nope	Mar 16 21:23
Diablo-D3	it costs money to make people.	Mar 16 21:23
Diablo-D3	dead people are a bad return on investment.	Mar 16 21:23
DaemonFC	MinceR, On Monday we love our neighbors, on Tuesday we go kill the men, women, children, animals, and trees. On Wednesday we find more neighbors to love, on Thursday we rape and murder them, on Friday we order pizza and beer, collect our paycheck for the week, and take the weekend off.	Mar 16 21:23
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DaemonFC	Sound good?	Mar 16 21:23
Diablo-D3	I think, really, we should go in and just airdrop science books translated into their language	Mar 16 21:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Dominates 90% of World's Biggest Servers http://ur1.ca/q2d6 #linux		Mar 16 21:24
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MinceR	DaemonFC: at least there's some system to it	Mar 16 21:24
Diablo-D3	Its the only way to end this cycle of hate.	Mar 16 21:24
Diablo-D3	People _must_ face reality.	Mar 16 21:24
rnb	well either way, the wikileaks scandal is far more important than the stupid encdrama drama	Mar 16 21:24
Diablo-D3	To hide yourself in lies is just the same as worshiping a false idol	Mar 16 21:24
rnb	encdrama will keep going on, i'm sure	Mar 16 21:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Insight Into #Linux #Kernel Space and Why It's the Future http://ur1.ca/q2df http://ur1.ca/q2dg		Mar 16 21:25
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MinceR	Diablo-D3: if they aren't your people then it's not your investment :>	Mar 16 21:25
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rnb	but this leaked COINTELPRO memo, that's huge	Mar 16 21:25
rnb	it affirms what almost every US dissident has thought for 30-some years, which is that the COINTELPRO program was never REALLY terminated	Mar 16 21:25
Diablo-D3	MinceR: ALL people are my people.	Mar 16 21:25
rnb	it was just better-hidden	Mar 16 21:25
MinceR	Diablo-D3: aren't we a little possessive? :>	Mar 16 21:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #AjaXplorer for #GNU #Linux , Other Great Applications http://ur1.ca/q2dq http://ur1.ca/q2ds		Mar 16 21:26
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MinceR	also, there are way too many people on this planet anyway	Mar 16 21:26
Diablo-D3	I do not turn someone away just because they aren't in my country.	Mar 16 21:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kristanix #Games Targets #GNU #Linux on the Desktop http://www.kristanix.com/press/linuxgames-pr-031010.php		Mar 16 21:27
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Diablo-D3	MinceR: only because idiots hold back science	Mar 16 21:28
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Diablo-D3	there is no set limit on how many people can live on a planet	Mar 16 21:28
Diablo-D3	there is also no reason why we have to keep people living on the planet	Mar 16 21:28
MinceR	if you don't see anything wrong about covering the surface of a planet with a 100m thick shell made of human bodies, that is	Mar 16 21:29
Diablo-D3	you are sadly mistaken, MinceR	Mar 16 21:29
MinceR	i'd like to keep the biosphere around	Mar 16 21:29
Diablo-D3	so, MinceR, why did you vote for Bush both times?	Mar 16 21:29
MinceR	i didn't	Mar 16 21:29
Diablo-D3	Then why are you repeating Republican rhetoric?	Mar 16 21:29
MinceR	i'm not	Mar 16 21:29
Diablo-D3	Sadly, you are.	Mar 16 21:29
MinceR	also, i'm not usian and i'm not republican	Mar 16 21:30
MinceR	Diablo-D3: you're an idiot.	Mar 16 21:30
Diablo-D3	I'm an idiot for believing in humanity?	Mar 16 21:30
*Diablo-D3 just lols		Mar 16 21:30
Diablo-D3	What a failure you are, MinceR	Mar 16 21:30
Diablo-D3	go troll elsewhere	Mar 16 21:30
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MinceR	i don't see why i should believe in humanity	Mar 16 21:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Amarok 2.3.0 is Releases and #KDE SC Highlights #Krita http://ur1.ca/q0r5 http://ur1.ca/q2et		Mar 16 21:33
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rnb	freedom of speech when the US is in charge: "Un tercer periodista murió acribillado a tiros en el término de 15 días en Honduras. El periodista Nahúm Palacios Artiaga de la ciudad de Tocoa, Colón, en la zona Atlántica del país, murió tiroteado la noche del domingo 14 de marzo en un ataque perpetrado por sujetos no identificados que también hirieron de gravedad a uno de sus acompañantes."	Mar 16 21:33
MinceR	i don't understand moonspeak	Mar 16 21:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Desktop's Integration with #Google 's E-mail Merits Praise? http://ur1.ca/q2ez #fogcomputing		Mar 16 21:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Has Keynote Spot in Microsoft-Sponsored #HSBC , #RHEL 5 Turns 3 http://ur1.ca/q2fc http://ur1.ca/q2fd		Mar 16 21:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Early Review of #SimplyMEPIS 8.5 ( #Debian #GNU #Linux -Derived) http://www.osnews.com/story/23005/First_Glance_at_SimplyMEPIS_8_5		Mar 16 21:38
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sebsebseb	schestowitz: ianto http://www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2010031600535INUB	Mar 16 21:38
phIRCe-BNc	Title: Linux Today - QA with Matt Asay: How Linux is Beating Apple and Much More .::. Size~: 78.24 KB	Mar 16 21:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Shuttleworth Still Personally Invlved in #GNU #Linux Development Process http://ur1.ca/q2fo less paperwork		Mar 16 21:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Developing for #GNU #Linux on #Cell Becomes Simpler http://ur1.ca/q2g7		Mar 16 21:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Phones Not Distinguishable from Desktops Anymore http://openattitude.com/2010/03/15/desktop-linux-without-the-desk/ #yearoflinux		Mar 16 21:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Digging me some Evile.		Mar 16 22:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Economy Bill Want to Sneak Through http://ur1.ca/q2jx http://ur1.ca/q2jy http://ur1.ca/q2jz http://ur1.ca/pzn8		Mar 16 22:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA and Hope. Europe trashes ACTA as Obama praises it http://ur1.ca/q2k1 Yes we can!		Mar 16 22:12
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Obama found his change http://ur1.ca/q2je		Mar 16 22:12
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] CNN's #GlennBeck replacement is worse than #GlennBeck ... how is that even possible? http://ur1.ca/q2ju #douchebags		Mar 16 22:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Helping t Educate Biden- and MAFIAA-appointed Czar http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/15/tell-the-copyright-c.html		Mar 16 22:13
phIRCe-BNc	Title: Tell the copyright czar how US enforcement should work: 9 days left! - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 44.13 KB	Mar 16 22:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Victories for Sharing in Europe http://ur1.ca/q2ke http://ur1.ca/q2kf		Mar 16 22:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WikiLeaks Under Attack by DOD Hawks http://ur1.ca/puky http://ur1.ca/puoz		Mar 16 22:16
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MySpace Sells Users' Data http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/myspace_bulk_data.php #murdoch #neofascism		Mar 16 22:17
phIRCe-BNc	Title: While Facebook & Twitter Sit on Sidelines, MySpace Jumps Into Bulk User Data Sales .::. Size~: 83.36 KB	Mar 16 22:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Video Shows How #GNU #Linux and #FreeSoftware Run a Whole House http://www.thesourceshow.org/node/176		Mar 16 22:19
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Launches New Contest http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/293925-mozilla-launches-firefox-mobile-add-on-challenge		Mar 16 22:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] How to put together an Ubuntu Global Jam event - http://is.gd/aL34y #ubuntu		Mar 16 22:31
phIRCe-BNc	Title: Ubuntu Global Jam: Time To Rock The House \| jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 30.28 KB	Mar 16 22:31
schestowitz	Thunderf00t is brilliant as a channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t#p/u/36/inES_eAexN8	Mar 16 22:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺opensourcerer ♺ @theopenlearning: Blog post: "Does Microsoft think "Rip-Off Britain" is an instruction?" http://tr.im/S8B7		Mar 16 22:42
DaemonFC	schestowitz, I just got done talking to my ex and want to step out into the freeway now.	Mar 16 22:45
DaemonFC	I hate him, HATE him.	Mar 16 22:45
DaemonFC	ugggh	Mar 16 22:46
*DaemonFC goes to shower with his clothes on		Mar 16 22:46
DaemonFC	schestowitz, How do you know I'm stable enough to own a gun? A. So many people like that in my life that are still alive.	Mar 16 22:47
DaemonFC	I need that targeted memory destruction like on that one Jim Carey movie	Mar 16 22:48
DaemonFC	just totally delete a few people that I have nothing but teeth grinding contempt for	Mar 16 22:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Happy About #Apple ’s Invocation of Software Patents Against #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/q2ql		Mar 16 23:09
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, They took out the "obscene, vulgar, and immoral" part of the proposed ordinance	Mar 16 23:12
DaemonFC	and added a clause that says "No section of this ordinance shall be interpreted to hinder or prohibit freedom of speech as provided for under the First Amendment.'	Mar 16 23:12
DaemonFC	" "No regulations within are placed on personal opinion messages, political speech, political election or political issue signs."	Mar 16 23:13
DaemonFC	darn it	Mar 16 23:13
DaemonFC	apparently they think that business sign size is so much of a problem that they need to devote 35 pages of legislation to dealing with it while we are now $820,000 in the hole for the year.	Mar 16 23:14
Diablo-D3	heh	Mar 16 23:21
Diablo-D3	DaemonFC: it'd work real great if people just refuse to follow it	Mar 16 23:21
DaemonFC	then they get fines	Mar 16 23:22
Diablo-D3	and then whos going to enforce the fines?	Mar 16 23:22
DaemonFC	the court	Mar 16 23:22
Diablo-D3	the police? they quit after their paychecks bounced.	Mar 16 23:22
DaemonFC	lmao	Mar 16 23:22
Diablo-D3	the court? half the clerks quit for the same reason.	Mar 16 23:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Prelude to a new campaign which strives to change the coverage of #Windows -specific #security problems http://ur1.ca/q2so		Mar 16 23:23
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schestowitz	[22:45] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I just got done talking to my ex and want to step out into the freeway now.	Mar 16 23:23
schestowitz	If it makes you find any solace, girls can be even more complicated	Mar 16 23:23
DaemonFC	doubtful	Mar 16 23:23
schestowitz	I never had a spiteful breakup	Mar 16 23:24
DaemonFC	either one will find a way to twist the knife to where it still hurts 6 years later I'm sure	Mar 16 23:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Thoughts on Linux.com? Share them at http://is.gd/aL6LY		Mar 16 23:49
DaemonFC	schestowitz, According to Microsoft, IE 9 as currently stands is competitive with Firefox 3.7 Alpha 2 on SunSpider	Mar 16 23:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA Booster Luc Pierre Devigne Redefines Open #Standards (With #SoftwarePatents Included) http://ur1.ca/q2vu		Mar 16 23:53
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, There's an IE 9 public build out now	Mar 16 23:58

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