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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: March 24th, 2010

MinceRadblock won't block thatMar 24 00:00
oiaohmBy businesses that want to fail yes DaemonFCMar 24 00:00
oiaohmCorrect targeted ads take effort.  Ie ads that releate to topic of articaleMar 24 00:00
oiaohmthose can be simple links at end of artical and can have far higher click threw rates than any other form of adsMar 24 00:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Thinking it probably wasnt wise to test hibernate on a 2GB RAM machine with only 1.6GB swap. We'll see..Mar 24 00:01
oiaohmLike one schestowitz could possible make some money with at times.  Is get a referral agreement with someone that produces paper copies of patents.  And provide a link to get paper copy.Mar 24 00:02
oiaohmOf course has to be attached to the right articalesMar 24 00:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Phew! It woke okay, good job, there was a text editor open with an unsaved document in it!Mar 24 00:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oooh,'Shutdown' on Ubuntu Lucid now says "Switch off" instead of "Shutdown". And the 'off' button glows red somtimes.Restart needed?Mar 24 00:08
satiperaRef bad language, I have heard a lot of it today courtesy of Jono Bacon catching up on weeks of shot of jaq.Mar 24 00:11
satipera:)Mar 24 00:11
jonosatipera, lolMar 24 00:14
DaemonFCWe thought we were going to have to have my dog put to sleep todayMar 24 00:25
DaemonFCthought she broke her hip falling off the bed (she's 16 years old)Mar 24 00:25
DaemonFCturned out it aggravated her arthritis and she has an ear infectionMar 24 00:25
DaemonFCpain killers and antibioticsMar 24 00:26
DaemonFC:)Mar 24 00:26
MinceReuthanasiaMar 24 00:26
DaemonFCI've had the dog since I was 10Mar 24 00:27
_goblinjust been reading about people playing a cracked game being exposed on the net....a fake cracked version of the software aimed at exposing piratesMar 24 00:27
_goblinit wouldn't be so bad under normal circumstances but in this case it was an erotic gameMar 24 00:27
DaemonFCI think the medication I'm on has affected my ability to cryMar 24 00:27
DaemonFCI was worried that I might lose my dog but I couldn't cry about itMar 24 00:28
MinceRcrying is overrated.Mar 24 00:28
DaemonFCantidepressants and mood stabilizers turn you into something that could be desribed as a sociopathMar 24 00:30
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Watching a really bad movie on sky3 its called Heatstroke and it seems really low budget.....really awful #scifiMar 24 00:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Bed! Good night internet friends.Mar 24 00:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] I didn't used to be very active with forums, but now i can't seem to stop!Mar 24 00:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] @popey: night, pal!Mar 24 00:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Tomorrow at 1.30pm Pacific I interview Dan Lopez from the Linux Foundation and MuseAmp - watch live at http://live.twit.tv :-)Mar 24 00:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ubuntu Global Jam Event This Friday: Rockridge, California - http://is.gd/aV1Tg #ubuntuMar 24 01:23
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cubezzz No More Firefox For Windows Mobile Mar 24 01:27
cubezzzawwww :)Mar 24 01:27
cubezzzI was just about to try WinMob tooMar 24 01:28
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Tweet from @tehsnarf - new listener asks a good question - what are the best FLOSSWeekly shows we have done? Thoughts ? #bestflossweeklyMar 24 01:32
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I found the movie with the scene used for those "Hitler discovers..." Youtube videosMar 24 01:51
DaemonFCand I'm watching it. "Downfall"Mar 24 01:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 'ere me now, wonderful people of the Internet, stepping away to go and work out and indulge in a little Lost. Back in a bit.Mar 24 01:51
DaemonFC"Are the Russians THAT close? THE ENTIRE AIR FORCE SHOULD BE HANGED!!!" *slams the phone down*Mar 24 01:53
DaemonFCniceMar 24 01:53
DaemonFC"The Russians are 5 miles from the city center, and nobody told me. I had to ASK!!!"Mar 24 01:54
DaemonFCHow the hell do you expect to hold the city when the enemy is parking short range artillery just outside and shelling you with impunity?Mar 24 01:57
DaemonFCThat syphilis must have eaten his brain pretty extensively.Mar 24 01:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Proxy Attack on #GNU #Linux Continues With #TurboHercules http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/23/turbohercules-and-microsoft/Mar 24 02:18
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schestowitzgn, I'm knackeredMar 24 02:19
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Springtime for Hiiiitll---oh wait, Mars http://ur1.ca/rfjl !scienceMar 24 03:07
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] "This is a big fucking deal" -- Joe Biden http://ur1.ca/rfk8 #awesomeMar 24 03:07
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Incredible Animation of Frédéric Back http://ur1.ca/rfrt #awesomeMar 24 03:52
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tessierschestowitz: No, have not enabled the cache yet.Mar 24 05:10
tessierschestowitz: You can know if the cache is enabled by the IP. .114 is the direct server IP.Mar 24 05:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Ed S is doing a rocking job of building in dependency checking into Acire, so if you don't have a Python module, it will install it. :-)Mar 24 05:15
DaemonFCyeah, schestowitz tells me not to use language, it's good enough for our Vice F***ing PresidentMar 24 05:16
DaemonFCnyaaaahMar 24 05:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ...see http://is.gd/aVwHt for detailsMar 24 05:16
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4Mar 24 05:18
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DaemonFCWell, I dug my bike out of the closetMar 24 06:11
DaemonFCmore like an excavationMar 24 06:11
DaemonFCre-inflated the tiresMar 24 06:12
DaemonFCand looks like I'm going to be involuntarily carbon neutral (no car) for a whileMar 24 06:12
DaemonFCat least as far as transportationMar 24 06:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just merged in a bunch of PyKDE4 snippets to python-snippet - thanks @nixternal - we need more! See http://is.gd/aVIwO for how! #kde #ubuntuMar 24 07:12
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Happy Ada Lovelace Day! My blog contribution: http://bit.ly/c6ajBC #ald10 #ubuntu #communityMar 24 07:31
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zoobabhiMar 24 07:40
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apparently people type "facebook login" into their browser's URL bar to get to the facebook login page, see comments on http://ur1.ca/m18nMar 24 07:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] UK Pirate Party believes that patent law promotes innovation somewhere, don't vote for them: http://i5.be/aEvMar 24 07:59
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schestowitzzoobab: any news?Mar 24 07:59
schestowitzzoobab: legal innocationMar 24 08:00
schestowitz*vationMar 24 08:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Andrew Tridgell (Samba developer) recommends Reading Software Patents, maybe he should read them of M$ more carefully http://i5.be/aEwMar 24 08:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Kyocera and #Sanyo (Not Just #Samsung and #LG ) Help #Microsoft ‘Tax’ #Android http://ur1.ca/rgtdMar 24 08:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Still Avoids Talking With Public About Being Bought http://ur1.ca/rgwy Ron Hovsepian is avoiding the subjectMar 24 08:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] When Only Half of #Europe Browses the Web With #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/rgzi #ie #firefox #ballotMar 24 09:02
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DaemonFCschestowitz: That movie was a total letdownMar 24 09:52
DaemonFCfrom the way Hitler was talking, I figured that Steiner dude would turn around, head back to Berlin, and kick some Russian assMar 24 09:52
DaemonFCbut it all ended with lots of people killing themselves, the Russians killing people that didn't kill themselves, killing kids, killing dogsMar 24 09:53
DaemonFCit was very depressingMar 24 09:53
DaemonFCin fact, it almost has you feeling sorry for the "Nazis"Mar 24 09:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Matt Asay, a former Noveller, denounces #Microsoft critics and defends engagement with Microsoft http://ur1.ca/rh5v #ubuntu #canonicalMar 24 09:54
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DaemonFCwell, at least the German civilians which the Russians were indiscriminantly shelling and shootingMar 24 09:54
oiaohmLot of the German civilians did not agree with the Nazis but they really could not over throw the force.Mar 24 10:11
oiaohmEverything has a price.Mar 24 10:11
satiperaFC do you know how many people the Russians lost in ww2? look it up.Mar 24 10:16
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oiaohmNot that many compared to the germans.   satipera.   Russians were a little smart than the Natiz.  They waited for the weather to turn in thier favour.Mar 24 10:17
oiaohmIt was the russian winter more than the Russian solders that screwed the Natis front line forces.Mar 24 10:18
satiperaoiaohm look it up as well you will be surprisedMar 24 10:18
satiperawhy do some texts appear as red?Mar 24 10:19
DaemonFCmass murder of civilians is a war crimeMar 24 10:19
DaemonFCyou know, it's funny how people nitpickMar 24 10:20
DaemonFCyou pour some water on some guy, it's a war crimeMar 24 10:21
DaemonFCyou gun down rows of people in a genocide campaign, the "international community" ignores itMar 24 10:21
DaemonFCglosses it overMar 24 10:21
satiperaworld war 2 deaths by country http://www.secondworldwar.co.uk/casualty.htmlMar 24 10:21
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DaemonFCwell, the German soldiers shelling Russian civilians doesn't make it alright for the Soviets to shell German civiliansMar 24 10:22
DaemonFCboth are obviously wrong, and war crimesMar 24 10:22
DaemonFCyou're trying to debase my pointMar 24 10:23
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IBM seems to claim patents on the open source project Hercules: "IBM [patent] claims are necessary to use Hercules" http://i5.be/aExMar 24 10:23
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oiaohmie name contained.  satipera  Big problem here is a lot of the german records of numbers of forces sent in battle were lost.Mar 24 10:24
oiaohmName contained for why red satiperaMar 24 10:24
DaemonFCfor that matter, gunning down enemy soldiers who have laid down their weapons and surrendered to you is a war crimeMar 24 10:24
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DaemonFCthe Russians did plenty of thatMar 24 10:25
DaemonFCstarving POWs to death is a war crimeMar 24 10:26
satiperaTy oiaohmMar 24 10:26
oiaohmI know its not right but it was reletation.  DaemonFCMar 24 10:26
oiaohmOne of the delaying moves the russians tried against the Nazis was few units of soliders surrendering.  They got mowed down.Mar 24 10:27
oiaohmSo latter on in the battle russians were kinda mercyless.Mar 24 10:27
oiaohmThe issue of breaking the rules of combat.  Mar 24 10:28
DaemonFCoh, no matter what the Soviets did to who, you always had some idiot Communist student group here admiring the SovietsMar 24 10:28
DaemonFCas they kill millions and make millions more sufferMar 24 10:29
DaemonFCsounds like a utopia to meMar 24 10:29
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DaemonFCThere was some student group that is trying to get the death sentence repealed in Indiana which presented some "statistics" in a way that leads people to believe the correlation-causation Mar 24 10:31
DaemonFCThey tried to present the numbers as "states with no death sentence have less murders"Mar 24 10:32
DaemonFClike that has anything to do with the murder rateMar 24 10:32
oiaohmThere is a link.Mar 24 10:32
DaemonFCthen they're like "well, it's cheaper to just imprison them forever"Mar 24 10:32
oiaohmNot exactly a good one it first was found in the records of china 1000BC by the way.Mar 24 10:33
DaemonFCDoes that include the cost to build another prison in every state?Mar 24 10:33
oiaohmIntroducing the death sentence caused Murders to kill more on adverage.Mar 24 10:33
DaemonFCor does that include the cost of the extra appeals they have now that they're going to live on and on in prison?Mar 24 10:33
oiaohmReason once they had killed one and would be put to death what reason did they have to stop.Mar 24 10:33
oiaohmDeath sentence is not really a ideal solution.Mar 24 10:34
DaemonFCthey're trying to say the cost of appeals to death sentences is too highMar 24 10:34
oiaohmRoman system was quite effective.Mar 24 10:35
DaemonFCit costs money to appeal a life sentence once per x amount of years, right?Mar 24 10:35
oiaohmThat killer would become a slave.Mar 24 10:35
oiaohmMore worse the killer worse the job.Mar 24 10:35
DaemonFCoiaohm: Crucify them and set them out on a pike next to the road?Mar 24 10:35
DaemonFCYes, I agree with thatMar 24 10:35
oiaohmThat was for ones that would not stop.Mar 24 10:35
oiaohmAfter becoming slaves.Mar 24 10:35
oiaohmLike slaves had some horid jobs like being chained in rowers in war ships.  Ie ship goes down so do you.Mar 24 10:37
DaemonFCyeah, no time to stop and unchain 100 slavesMar 24 10:38
oiaohmThinking some of those 100 slaves are killers.Mar 24 10:38
oiaohmWould you want to be stranded anywhere with them.Mar 24 10:38
oiaohmIe safer at the bottom.Mar 24 10:38
DaemonFCnopeMar 24 10:38
oiaohmDay in Day out rowing ships when do did get off the ship their would be no way you would want to go back there.Mar 24 10:39
oiaohmLot of ways current day prisions are too soft.Mar 24 10:39
oiaohmAlso we have replaced lot of the back braking jobs slaves use todo with machines.Mar 24 10:40
oiaohmAlso china is a good classic.  Before china got the death sentences.  They had a creative one you kill someone you have to replace the income of the person you killed from you own labour.Mar 24 10:41
oiaohmIf you stavered bad luck.Mar 24 10:41
oiaohmNow you really would not want to kill someone way richer than you because you were basically doomed to die because you would not be able to afford food.Mar 24 10:42
oiaohmThat way the state did not kill you.Mar 24 10:43
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DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-amoxiclavMar 24 10:47
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DaemonFCthat's what the doctor put me onMar 24 10:47
DaemonFCI was about to just go to the pet store and buy the pills for fish diseasesMar 24 10:48
DaemonFCthey come in the same doses "oddly enough"Mar 24 10:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Out of all the irc clients for Android that I have tried DaraIRC 1.1.0 is the best one, its free and works well with the HTC. #android #ircMar 24 10:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear SAP, Writing messsages to you on your website is the most painful thing I do each day. No love. Alan.Mar 24 10:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SoftwarePatents Complication Shows Why #Linux Needs the #FSF http://ur1.ca/rhrr #swpat #redbend #patenttroll #ivMar 24 11:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] zoobabMar 24 11:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @zoobab maybe hardware patentsMar 24 11:10
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schestowitzhttp://mashable.com/2010/03/21/ipad-picasa/Mar 24 11:18
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schestowitzWhat a disgusting deviceMar 24 11:18
schestowitzIt's about telling customer what 'they' wantMar 24 11:18
MinceRah0yMar 24 11:29
MinceRi didn't even know there was firefox for winmobMar 24 11:29
MinceR051806 < Cronocke> MStarfleet: Boldly going where Linux has gone beforeMar 24 11:30
MinceRhttp://knowyourmeme.com/photos/40119Mar 24 11:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.csmonitor.com/Science/Discoveries/2010/0322/Stunning-views-of-star-birth-in-a-distant-galaxyMar 24 11:56
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schestowitzChristian Science Monitor?Mar 24 11:56
schestowitzOn distant galaxies?Mar 24 11:56
cubezzzsureMar 24 11:57
schestowitzMinceR: it names Mormons tooMar 24 11:57
schestowitzAre they hated by radical x-ians?Mar 24 11:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] It occured to me that if life is too easy it is only delayed painMar 24 11:57
cubezzznot all Christian Scienists are young earthersMar 24 11:57
schestowitzMormons are like Scientologists except some partsMar 24 11:57
schestowitzOne man's made up religion with its own booksMar 24 11:57
schestowitzSome Novell employees are Mormons... the Utah partMar 24 11:58
schestowitz[Mac Asay too]Mar 24 11:58
schestowitzNot that it mattersMar 24 11:58
schestowitzWhat's that image supposed to say?Mar 24 11:58
schestowitzWere the girls there part of his gig?Mar 24 11:58
MinceRschestowitz: they probably areMar 24 11:58
schestowitzWhat's the purpose?Mar 24 11:59
schestowitzSatire?Mar 24 11:59
MinceRthey hacked the other guy, basicallyMar 24 11:59
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-LTS-Beta-1-Out-for-Testing-137807.shtmlMar 24 11:59
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schestowitzMy brother started promoting Linux to people... seems Ubuntu is still assumed by many to be the 'only' choiceMar 24 11:59
schestowitzMinceR: did he not notice?Mar 24 11:59
MinceRthey tend to not notice it, apparentlyMar 24 12:00
schestowitzMaybe the camera guy/gal was with the girlsMar 24 12:00
MinceRof course, the front of the sign isn't shown to them :>Mar 24 12:00
cubezzzbahMar 24 12:00
cubezzzwho thinks Ubuntu is the only choice?Mar 24 12:00
cubezzzthat's very sillyMar 24 12:01
cubezzzunfortunately I still get some customers who don't know any alternative to windowsMar 24 12:03
cubezzz"what less is there?"Mar 24 12:03
cubezzzthank you OEMs for all your helpMar 24 12:05
cubezzzwhat else is thereMar 24 12:06
schestowitzBasically, if something doesn't work in distro x, people say "try Ubuntu!"Mar 24 12:06
satiperaLook on the bright side people. I can't remember anyone I know even offering the fact they have heard of Ubuntu. Ubuntu is the introduction to floss for many and not a life long commitment  Mar 24 12:36
schestowitzhttp://technabob.com/blog/2010/03/23/bphone-flipscreen-smartphone-linux-java/Mar 24 12:39
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satiperaMy point is do not give people a hard time for using UbuntuMar 24 12:39
cubezzzI don'tMar 24 12:39
MinceRi'm not sure how much of an "introduction to FLOSS" can it remain, with the direction they're moving inMar 24 12:39
schestowitzI don'tMar 24 12:39
cubezzzpeople use what they wantMar 24 12:39
MinceRbut i don't give people a hard time for itMar 24 12:39
schestowitzI try to put them on DrivaMar 24 12:40
satiperaMandrake was my second failed effort of adopting LinuxMar 24 12:40
MinceRi didn't have failed efforts at itMar 24 12:41
cubezzzone cavet...Mar 24 12:41
cubezzz"Switching from MS Windows to Linspire does not bring you to freedom, it just gets you a different master"Mar 24 12:41
MinceRindeedMar 24 12:41
cubezzzremember linspire? :)Mar 24 12:41
MinceRsame thing with suseMar 24 12:41
MinceRand turbolinux, and xandrosMar 24 12:41
oiaohmI started on redhat and latter moved to debian running windows side by side.Mar 24 12:42
oiaohmUntil about 2002Mar 24 12:43
oiaohmWhen I was finding my self with a copy of windows their I was not booting into.Mar 24 12:43
cubezzzyeah I dabbled with Darkstar first, then Redhat 8.0 later onMar 24 12:43
oiaohmAnd if I did windows updates was taking more time than the work I need to do.Mar 24 12:43
cubezzzI would have loved to have gone AmigaDOS -> Linux looking back nowMar 24 12:43
cubezzzjust skip doze completelyMar 24 12:44
cubezzzor Sun Sparc Mar 24 12:44
satiperaWhen I first realised Linux existed I tried to install Red hat, out of my depth but I did not forget about LinuxMar 24 12:45
cubezzzI don't have any excuses at all for not converting earlierMar 24 12:45
cubezzzI was on Xenix back in the 80'sMar 24 12:45
cubezzzI should have gone into Linux soonerMar 24 12:45
cubezzzhated Windows 2.0 so ....Mar 24 12:46
cubezzzask me which one was more fun, AmigaDOS or Windows 2.0 :)Mar 24 12:46
cubezzznot even closeMar 24 12:46
cubezzzMinix I couldn't get the cdrom to work...Mar 24 12:47
satiperaI am no longer out of my depth but still in the paddling pool Mar 24 12:48
cubezzzseems to be a lot of dead meat Sparc boxes on ebayMar 24 12:49
cubezzzsatipera, well maintaining Linux boxes is a big part of my job nowMar 24 12:50
satiperaFor business I assumeMar 24 12:50
cubezzzfor customers in general, but yes often for businessMar 24 12:51
satiperaLock in for business is extreme how did they allow themselves to be put in this situationMar 24 12:53
cubezzzit happened graduallyMar 24 12:53
satiperaOnly large or very small businesses can escape easilyMar 24 12:53
cubezzzpeople started asking me about windows 3.0 in the early 90'sMar 24 12:54
cubezzzsatipera, a lot of tv stations had AmigasMar 24 12:54
cubezzzand Academia used Sparc quite oftenMar 24 12:54
cubezzzmusicians used midi with Atari ST'sMar 24 12:55
cubezzzthere was a lot of variety in the 80'sMar 24 12:55
satiperaThe first time I used the internet was at an educational establishment in the 90's it all seemed so foreignMar 24 12:56
cubezzzit was when win95 came out that the whole mono-culture started to really take overMar 24 12:56
schestowitzStart me uMar 24 12:57
schestowitzStart me upMar 24 12:57
schestowitzStartup?Mar 24 12:57
schestowitzNo.Mar 24 12:57
schestowitzMonopolyMar 24 12:57
satipera?Mar 24 12:57
cubezzzRolling Stones :)Mar 24 12:57
schestowitzThe slogan/mottoMar 24 12:57
satiperaI seeMar 24 12:57
cubezzzI think mono-culture is pretty aptMar 24 12:57
cubezzzmono-culture is a side effect of monopolyMar 24 12:58
schestowitzhttp://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/former-mysql-chief-lands-at-eucalyptus/?src=twt&twt=nytimesbitsMar 24 12:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 24 12:58
*schestowitz not sure what to make of itMar 24 12:58
schestowitzmon-virusMar 24 12:58
schestowitzmono-virusMar 24 12:58
schestowitzRemember that this is recipe for extinctionMar 24 12:58
schestowitzLack of diversity breeds... well, no breedingMar 24 12:58
schestowitzMicrosoft will be remembered as a Dark AgeMar 24 12:59
schestowitzWhen people used XP in 2010 (!!!)Mar 24 12:59
satiperaUniformity is a consumerist and human reaction, the computer buying public are starting to get over this, the phone market has been a great benefit in thisMar 24 13:00
cubezzzmy words exactlyMar 24 13:00
schestowitzBy this standard, people should still buy PCs with 40GB hard drivesMar 24 13:00
cubezzz"On January 22, 2007, Sun announced a broad strategic alliance with Intel"Mar 24 13:00
cubezzzwe are still losing diverisityMar 24 13:00
cubezzzSun works with Intel and AMD nowMar 24 13:02
cubezzzdiversityMar 24 13:02
cubezzzzaurus was a good attempt to diversify and make a new platformMar 24 13:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody "every time you make a Powerpoint..." - http://bit.ly/dxJmMG I use OpenOffice Impress, but still...Mar 24 13:03
phIRCe-BNcTitle: My new wallpaper «  Mark Goetz .::. Size~: 16.42 KBMar 24 13:03
satiperalistening to floss weekly you don't expect to hear the phrase "kiddy porn" normally. Simon Phipps is a sound bloke first I have heard from himMar 24 13:04
cubezzzok, looking at all these dead Sparc boxes is depressingMar 24 13:04
schestowitzAMD and Intel are not diversityMar 24 13:05
schestowitzIllusion of choiceMar 24 13:06
schestowitzSame patents and benefactorsMar 24 13:06
schestowitzWe need more ARM (same patent issue) and Chinese chipsMar 24 13:06
cubezzzI'm all for ARMMar 24 13:06
schestowitzChinese chips != freedom friesMar 24 13:06
cubezzzI'm all for non x86 desktops Mar 24 13:06
satiperalol that is fox news freedom friesMar 24 13:07
cubezzzschestowitz, things are not too good on the non x86 frontMar 24 13:09
cubezzzI'd be happy with just more non-x86 desktops. SGI died, Apple went to intel, Sun workstations are now AMD, I don't know if ibm still makes riscos workstations any more.Mar 24 13:09
cubezzzIntel is the new monopoly almostMar 24 13:09
MinceRadvantage6 still exists, don't they?Mar 24 13:09
satiperafreedom food see baked hiroshimaMar 24 13:09
cubezzzI simply can't buy non x86 at the stores in CanadaMar 24 13:10
schestowitzhttp://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1461859Mar 24 13:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: SSRN-Shrinking the Commons: Termination of Copyright Licenses and Transfers for the Benefit of the Public by Timothy Armstrong .::. Size~: 37.25 KBMar 24 13:11
cubezzzMinceR, I don't see any buy options at Advantage6Mar 24 13:11
cubezzzyes, the web page is still there but how to buy?Mar 24 13:11
schestowitzcubezzz: they got together with Nokia tooMar 24 13:11
schestowitzMeeGoMar 24 13:12
schestowitzTo make phones x86Mar 24 13:12
cubezzzok, so there's the mono-culture in hardware nowMar 24 13:12
cubezzzmaybe just as bad as the software mono-cultureMar 24 13:12
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8582404.stmMar 24 13:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 87.91 KBMar 24 13:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] BBC still want to DRM content making it hard for Open Source users to access it. http://www.openrightsgroup.org/campaigns/stop-bbc-drmMar 24 13:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open Rights Group | Stop BBC DRM .::. Size~: 12.25 KBMar 24 13:14
cubezzzMinceR, I just emailed Advantage6 to see what's upMar 24 13:14
cubezzzthere is this however:Mar 24 13:15
MinceRicMar 24 13:15
cubezzzhttp://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/Mar 24 13:15
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Wakefield 2010 - RISC OS Computer Show .::. Size~: 4.86 KBMar 24 13:15
MinceRalso, did sparc die already?Mar 24 13:15
MinceRperhaps some companies still make PPC desktops?Mar 24 13:16
cubezzzI think Sparc uses AMD and Intel nowMar 24 13:16
schestowitzHehe. Funny image: http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/03/labour-brown-british-britainMar 24 13:17
MinceRwhat do you mean?Mar 24 13:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: New Statesman - Hang ’em high with this election .::. Size~: 49.58 KBMar 24 13:17
cubezzzthey are building x86 based serversMar 24 13:17
MinceRsparc architecture isn't x86Mar 24 13:17
MinceRi didn't mean oracle/sun, i meant their sparc processorsMar 24 13:17
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] only 24 hours to act! http://bit.ly/cc3gOAMar 24 13:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 38 Degrees  |  Harriet - Debate The Digital Economy Bill .::. Size~: 9.74 KBMar 24 13:17
MinceRalso, i wonder if there are MIPS-based desktops alreadyMar 24 13:18
cubezzzright, I think Sparc is probably dead but there's FPGA and OpenSparc Mar 24 13:18
MinceRthe worst part of this is that afaik all these non-x86 cpus are weaker than high-end x86 cpusMar 24 13:18
cubezzzwell, there's netwalkerMar 24 13:19
cubezzzand Sam440Mar 24 13:19
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfMar 24 13:19
satiperaIt does not always come across in text but Hiroshima remark was irony.Mar 24 13:19
cubezzzMinceR, I think ACube Systems in Italy makes PowerPC boards stillMar 24 13:20
MinceRicMar 24 13:20
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam440epMar 24 13:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Sam440ep - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 53.2 KBMar 24 13:21
schestowitzhttp://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=45220&c=1Mar 24 13:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BPA: Daily Telegraph named newspaper of the year - Press Gazette .::. Size~: 31.86 KBMar 24 13:22
cubezzzand of course the new Amiga:Mar 24 13:24
cubezzzhttp://www.vesalia.de/e_amigaonex1000.htmMar 24 13:24
MinceRhow powerful are these systems?Mar 24 13:24
schestowitzLike MigMar 24 13:25
cubezzzabout Amiga X1000 no ideaMar 24 13:25
MinceR(probably can't compare just on the basis of clock frequency)Mar 24 13:25
cubezzzso many variablesMar 24 13:26
MinceRavailable GPUs can give a hint thoughMar 24 13:26
schestowitz"Is it just me, or has The Reg rather fallen off the radar recently?" http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/10867770928Mar 24 13:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Twitter / Glyn Moody: Is it just me, or has The  ... .::. Size~: 10.12 KBMar 24 13:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO validates the Amazon One-click cousin patent (send as a gift), proof that they grant software patents in Europe: http://i5.be/aECMar 24 13:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Amazon.com: 'Method And System For Placing A Purchase Order Via A Communications Network'  - BLOG@IPJUR.COM .::. Size~: 47.87 KBMar 24 13:28
schestowitz"@GlynMoody yes, I dumped The Register 2 weeks ago, after 4 years"Mar 24 13:29
MinceRi dumped them years ago, except for BOFHMar 24 13:30
*WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-awayMar 24 13:30
schestowitzhttp://techdirt.com/articles/20100318/1237168618.shtmlMar 24 13:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Nestle Discovers The Streisand Effect... But Only After Making Things Worse And Worse... And Worse | Techdirt .::. Size~: 57.2 KBMar 24 13:32
schestowitz'iPad' without the cult. http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/03/19/apple-ipad-how-about-a-little-german-innovation-instead/Mar 24 13:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   Apple iPad? How about a little German innovation instead  .::. Size~: 189.91 KBMar 24 13:33
*MinceR prefers convertible table pc-sMar 24 13:34
MinceR(or ebook readers with epaper displays)Mar 24 13:36
schestowitzWatch Mac Asay still buckling over the i[<stuff> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10469563-16.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20Mar 24 13:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open-source innovation: A matter of price? | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 111.14 KBMar 24 13:36
schestowitzI don't think I can take it anymore :-)Mar 24 13:36
schestowitzMay unsubscribe (again)Mar 24 13:37
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/19/new-acta-leak-its-a.htmlMar 24 13:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: New ACTA leak: It's a screwjob for the world's poor countries - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 46.68 KBMar 24 13:38
MinceRschestowitz: i guess this is part of the new direction canonical is takingMar 24 13:38
MinceRmore lockdown, more proprietary componentsMar 24 13:39
MinceRwill canonical resell hypePhones?Mar 24 13:40
schestowitzhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259445/How-I-blew-duck-house-Heather-Brooke-lighting-fuse-biggest-political-scandal-time.htmlMar 24 13:46
phIRCe-BNcTitle: How I blew up the duck house: Heather Brooke on lighting the fuse on the biggest political scandal of our time  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 76.71 KBMar 24 13:46
schestowitzMinceR: noMar 24 13:47
schestowitzIt's just not reluctant to support themMar 24 13:47
schestowitzMac Asay is not a full-blown JobsMar 24 13:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] xxxMar 24 13:50
MinceRor doesn't dare say it yetMar 24 13:51
schestowitzcubezzz: http://www.desmogblog.com/harper-government-stifles-truthMar 24 13:56
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Mitchell Anderson | Harper Government Stifles the Truth  .::. Size~: 37.38 KBMar 24 13:56
cubezzzI didn't vote for him :)Mar 24 13:57
zoobabhttp://www.counter2010.org/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=6.0Mar 24 13:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Forums » Software Piracy » Do you download software from the Internet? » General Opinions | Counter .::. Size~: 47.68 KBMar 24 13:57
schestowitzsatipera: ok, you don't need to tell everyone what you downloadMar 24 13:57
cubezzzof course I download software :)Mar 24 13:57
zoobabwgetMar 24 13:57
zoobabhttp://www.counter2010.org/events/counter-conference/Mar 24 13:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: COUNTER Conference | Counter .::. Size~: 50.2 KBMar 24 13:57
zoobabit is in Manchester todayMar 24 13:58
cubezzzwhoa, put me in jail for downloading Fedora ISO'sMar 24 13:58
satiperalol no more than anyone, but that was another mistake tweetMar 24 13:58
schestowitzzoobab: what is this site?Mar 24 13:58
zoobabhttp://www.counter2010.org/events/counter-conference/preliminary-programme/parallel-session-eight/Mar 24 13:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Parallel Session Eight | Counter .::. Size~: 46.71 KBMar 24 13:58
zoobabAmelia Andersdotter: Member of European Parliament (MEP), Pirate Party, SwedenMar 24 13:58
zoobabDr Ian Brown: Oxford Internet Institute, University of Oxford, UKMar 24 13:58
zoobabGlyn Moody: Author of Rebel Code: Linux and the Open Source Revolution, London, UKMar 24 13:58
schestowitzsatipera: :-)Mar 24 13:59
zoobabwho is she?Mar 24 13:59
schestowitzI know their main guyMar 24 14:00
schestowitzHe gave talks about his partyMar 24 14:00
schestowitzI see that UK Pirate party looks for nomineesMar 24 14:00
schestowitzzoobab: yeah...Mar 24 14:01
zoobabPirate Party in the European Parliament was called a "boulet" by some ACTA activistsMar 24 14:01
zoobabhttp://www.virtualmuseum.ca/Exhibitions/Myst/images/photos/mcq33-300.jpgMar 24 14:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 24 14:02
zoobaband on patent stuff, they do pretty zeroMar 24 14:02
zoobabI have other ideas for building a real democratic partyMar 24 14:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Help needed to transcript the ACTA PDF leak in plain text: http://is.gd/aWszqMar 24 14:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: EtherPad: lqactatranscript2 .::. Size~: 74.12 KBMar 24 14:07
sebsebsebhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010032400735NWMSLLMar 24 14:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Linux Today - Microsoft Says "Don't Cry For Linux" In Face Of Argentine Lawsuit .::. Size~: 75.91 KBMar 24 14:08
sebsebsebNice one, small Argentinien companyMar 24 14:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IBM says TurboHercules seeking "free ride" using open source software, using soft patents to block open source competition http://i5.be/aEEMar 24 14:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: French firm files EU antitrust motion against IBM| Reuters .::. Size~: 51.98 KBMar 24 14:17
schestowitzI'll ask glyn if he's around Manchester today.Mar 24 14:17
schestowitzhttp://mashable.com/2010/03/22/half-ipad-apps-tested-games/Mar 24 14:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: iPad Launch Looks to be Dominated by Gaming Apps [STATS] .::. Size~: 84.24 KBMar 24 14:17
schestowitzApplers don't get things doneMar 24 14:18
Diablo-D3dudeMar 24 14:18
Diablo-D3if you had tons of cashMar 24 14:18
Diablo-D3you wouldnt eitherMar 24 14:18
schestowitzsebsebseb: already in BNMar 24 14:19
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/22/microsoft-trial-in-argentina/Mar 24 14:19
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Report: Microsoft May be Fined 300,000,000 Pesos (~€55 Million) for Illegally Removing GNU/Linux as Option | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 102.71 KBMar 24 14:19
sebsebsebhttp://bostonreview.net/BR35.2/stallman.phpMar 24 14:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Boston Review &mdash; Richard Stallman: What Does That Server Really Serve? .::. Size~: 35.35 KBMar 24 14:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] European Commission says "Oracle mlight have the ability to sue any forker of MySQL" for patent violation, read point 734: http://i5.be/aEFMar 24 14:21
satiperaFab and Dan a model for further European integrationMar 24 14:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] At #MoMA waiting for ticket sale to open in 15minMar 24 14:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I need a hotspot that doesn't forbid imaps :(Mar 24 14:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #MoMA free wifi forbids imaps #failMar 24 14:26
sebsebsebschestowitz: I am reading the Stallman link,  against cloud computing at the moment.Mar 24 14:27
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schestowitzLots of spy powers: http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/23/opendns-one-percent/Mar 24 14:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   OpenDNS Now Serves 1% Of The Internet (Thats A Big Number)   .::. Size~: 76.34 KBMar 24 14:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] IBM claims that the Hercules open-source emulator violates IBM intellectual property that it has refused to identify: http://i5.be/aEGMar 24 14:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle: TurboHercules SAS Files Formal Complaint against IBM with the European Commission for Violations of EU Antitrust Law  | TradingMarkets.com  .::. Size~: 32.19 KBMar 24 14:33
sebsebsebschestowitz: Have you read the Stallman link I gave yet, it's greatMar 24 14:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear Lazyweb, Someone recently mentioned a very simple presentation app which was based on simple html. Wotizit?Mar 24 14:35
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Sergey Brin on Google’s China Move : http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/22/interview-sergey-brin-on-googles-china-gambit/Mar 24 14:42
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 24 14:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Aaaand relax.. it was this.. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/tech-talk-pse-now-a-bit-usable/Mar 24 14:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Tech Talk PSE, now a bit usable « Richard WM Jones .::. Size~: 22.82 KBMar 24 14:43
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Omar87Hi all.Mar 24 14:50
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schestowitzsebsebseb: I've just mailed himMar 24 14:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] An anonymous Boycott Novell reader from #China shares his views about Google's situation in China http://ur1.ca/riu5 #censorshipMar 24 15:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] So what sense does life of the author plus 70 years make towards creativity and innovation? It is a scam full stop.Mar 24 15:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Guest Post: Google.cn Pulls Out of Communist China | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 97.24 KBMar 24 15:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: You emaild RMS why?Mar 24 15:01
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sebsebsebianto: Great article http://bostonreview.net/BR35.2/stallman.php  also since when are you a FSF member and how come?Mar 24 15:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Boston Review &mdash; Richard Stallman: What Does That Server Really Serve? .::. Size~: 37.77 KBMar 24 15:02
schestowitzsebsebseb: repliedMar 24 15:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Pretty http://nivo.dev7studios.com/Mar 24 15:03
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Nivo Slider - The Most Awesome jQuery Image Slider .::. Size~: 7.26 KBMar 24 15:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Great interview with Laura Czajkowski http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/ubuntupeople-laura-czajkowski.htmlMar 24 15:06
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu:People - Laura Czajkowski | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 110.28 KBMar 24 15:06
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sebsebsebhttp://www.focus.com/fyi/information-technology/50-places-linux-running-you-might-not-expect/Mar 24 15:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 50 Places Linux is Running That You Might Not Expect .::. Size~: 149.26 KBMar 24 15:07
Omar87schestowitz, I wonder why trmanco doesn't show up these days.. What's the matter?Mar 24 15:07
iantosebsebseb: TL;DRMar 24 15:09
sebsebsebianto: What?Mar 24 15:09
iantoTo be honest there are like 5 paragraphs that I've read now all saying the same thingMar 24 15:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #MoMA Tim Burton exhibit is nice, but a bit too smallMar 24 15:14
sebsebsebianto: that 50  places Linux is running article seems rather good,  plus did you see the above popey link  to cajkowski interviewMar 24 15:15
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fill out your Bracket of Evil for March Mayhem: http://BracketOfEvil.comMar 24 15:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Bracket of Evil .::. Size~: 33.6 KBMar 24 15:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] 50 places running #Linux you don't might not expect (All is good except for the first one): http://tinyurl.com/y8hzvgxMar 24 15:24
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 50 Places Linux is Running That You Might Not Expect .::. Size~: 149.27 KBMar 24 15:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] 50 places running #Linux you might not expect (All is good except for the first one):Mar 24 15:26
MinceRalso, they quote Net Applications liesMar 24 15:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Upcoming #election in the UK.. Time to #votegeek ! http://votegeek.org.ukMar 24 15:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Vote Geek .::. Size~: 28.57 KBMar 24 15:31
MinceRstill a useful articleMar 24 15:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] G'morning, folks!Mar 24 15:40
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfMar 24 15:44
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANtpsunRYIsMar 24 16:01
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Where did EVERYTHING come from? .::. Size~: 138.25 KBMar 24 16:01
schestowitzOmar87: trmancode :-)Mar 24 16:01
schestowitzHe lives in phIRCe-BNcMar 24 16:01
Omar87schestowitz, what? :DMar 24 16:02
schestowitzHe's in CanadaMar 24 16:02
Omar87schestowitz, I see.Mar 24 16:02
Omar87I can see his tweets, though. :)Mar 24 16:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] There is an overriding urge within the team at work to do _something_ to laptops people leave unlockedMar 24 16:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Anyone know if there is any decent Android MUD apps? #android #mudMar 24 16:14
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schestowitz"@schestowitz <i> wonder what tufte would say about <lessig>'s version of WSML  </lol>" http://identi.ca/notice/25921962Mar 24 16:16
schestowitz:-)Mar 24 16:16
phIRCe-BNcTitle: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Wednesday, 24-Mar-10 15:16:20 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.37 KBMar 24 16:16
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schestowitzOmar87: oh, yeahMar 24 16:16
schestowitzI need to readd himMar 24 16:17
_goblinhi allMar 24 16:18
*WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-awayMar 24 16:19
_goblinUbuntu continues to get good reviews...seems with a new theme ubuntu is. getting some more publicityMar 24 16:20
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfMar 24 16:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Pranks range from sending email to boss with revalations about sexuality to leaving notepad open behind everything, disovered on shutdown.Mar 24 16:27
sebsebseb_goblin: It's got some more new icons as wellMar 24 16:28
sebsebseb_goblin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/lucid-starts-to-get-some-updated-icons.htmlMar 24 16:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Lucid starts to get some updated icons | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 102.02 KBMar 24 16:28
Omar87_goblin, Hey!Mar 24 16:31
_goblinhi omar!!Mar 24 16:40
_goblinsorry for the delay In responding multitasking on a mobile is not as easy as on pcMar 24 16:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Hoping to get a look at Ubuntu 10.04 beta tonight when I get home..its been getting some rave reviews #linux #ubuntuMar 24 16:45
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Omar87goblin-away, ping. :)Mar 24 16:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Everything about it seems pretty good except for one thing. You probably know about it. :) @mjasayMar 24 16:50
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schestowitzHeh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93mWjngq4oAMar 24 16:54
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- The Texas Board of Indoctrination .::. Size~: 126.39 KBMar 24 16:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New ACTA leak: 01/18 version of consolidated text | La Quadrature du Net http://tinyurl.com/yekkklrMar 24 16:55
phIRCe-BNcTitle: New ACTA leak: 01/18 version of consolidated text | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 21.5 KBMar 24 16:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I'm talking about the Mono issue. The Ubuntu distribution is really almost perfect, except when it comes to the Mono trojan horse. @mjasayMar 24 16:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I really hope you can do something about it in the near future. :-) @mjasayMar 24 16:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Unfortunately Dan Lopez is ill and can't do FLOSSWeekly today, so we now have Amber Graner to talk Ada Lovelace Day and Ubuntu Women #ald10Mar 24 17:10
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] forget what I said. #MoMA Tim Burton exhibit continues on the 3rd floor and is a giant delirious delicaacyMar 24 17:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] In an hour (6pm UTC) live at http://is.gd/aWMh4 for my At Home With Jono Bacon vidcast about Ada Lovelace Day+/Ubuntu/Community Q+A #ubuntuMar 24 17:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: At Home With Jono Bacon on USTREAM: Ramblings on community, Linux and technology from Jono Bacon.. Computers .::. Size~: 56.4 KBMar 24 17:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez I would agree, ubuntu is a great distro, whilst #mono can be removed, it does imo slightly taint the distro #ubuntuMar 24 17:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The straight edge society are nothing but a bunch of idiots good at nothing but cheating! And CM Punk? #Mysterio will kick his ass for sure!Mar 24 17:30
sebsebsebhttp://www.junauza.com/2010/03/cool-openofficeorg-easter-eggs.htmlMar 24 17:32
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Cool OpenOffice.org Easter Eggs | TechSource .::. Size~: 120.2 KBMar 24 17:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin Yeah, man. That's right. And I can only hope our dear friend @mjasay will try to do something about this problem. :-)Mar 24 17:33
schestowitzAre wikimedia sites down?Mar 24 17:34
schestowitzhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_PageMar 24 17:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 24 17:35
schestowitzFail.Mar 24 17:35
schestowitzhttp://wikipedia.orgMar 24 17:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Wikipedia .::. Size~: 45.14 KBMar 24 17:35
schestowitzMaybe their EU servers are downMar 24 17:36
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/25929169 "@schestowitz perhaps it would be rude of me to say he is a tool"Mar 24 17:42
phIRCe-BNcTitle: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Wednesday, 24-Mar-10 16:28:35 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.33 KBMar 24 17:42
schestowitz[About Mac Asay]Mar 24 17:42
schestowitz"@openuniverse he doesn't know he's a tool, that's the genius of it"Mar 24 17:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez I get the feeling that the decision to dump mono would be bigger than any one person.Mar 24 17:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How PR puppets are attempting to influence people who mention their clients in one way or another http://ur1.ca/rjpiMar 24 17:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Press Fail | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 95.29 KBMar 24 17:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez I get the feeling rey is going to join them and play the bad guy for a while..... #wweMar 24 17:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] 15mins until my live videocast at http://is.gd/aWMh4 - Ada Lovelace Day, Ubuntu Women, and Ubuntu/Community Q+A - #ald10 #ubuntuMar 24 17:54
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin Imho, the only thing we can is keep pestering them by reviving the issue every now and then. Through tweets, blogs, IRC.. etc.Mar 24 18:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin Nah. I I think Rey can easily trash CM Skunk at Wrestlemania. Let's just hope no cheating happens over there. #wweMar 24 18:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin Plus, I suppose the very people who brought Mono into Ubuntu are the same ones who can remove it. We just have to keep insisting.Mar 24 18:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to broadcast any min now live at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon #ubuntuMar 24 18:09
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schestowitzEls has just come to identi.ca!Mar 24 18:18
Omar87schestowitz: Looking for some enlightenment about how to "Update your Skills with Resources and Career ideas.."? Microsoft is offering you the e-book you've been looking for. For FREE!! :P http://tinyurl.com/y8gs78nMar 24 19:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Own Your Future: Update Your Skills with Resources and Career Ideas from Microsoft | MicrosoftFeed .::. Size~: 28.25 KBMar 24 19:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] SD Times Removes Miguel de Icaza’s Admission That #Mono Has Patent Problems and de Icaza Mocks Jeremy Allison http://ur1.ca/rjyuMar 24 19:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: SD Times Removes Miguel de Icazas Admission That Mono Has Patent Problems and de Icaza Mocks Jeremy Allison | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 103.74 KBMar 24 19:00
schestowitzThere is almost nothing personalised in that PR spam I getMar 24 19:00
schestowitzI can only imagine that they 'spam' a lot of reporters with that toshMar 24 19:00
Omar87schestowitz, talking 'bout my link?Mar 24 19:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I don't mind the default button change on Ubuntu, I DO mind that you have to hack gconf to change it back, it's not exactly "pro-choice"Mar 24 19:08
Aondopro-choice isn't actually the gnome way now is it? :D Mar 24 19:13
Omar87schestowitz, that's not spam, imho. That's the indoctrination like never seen before.Mar 24 19:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Indoctrination and mass-hypnosis like never witnessed before, from the convicted criminal, Microsoft. > http://tinyurl.com/y8gs78nMar 24 19:15
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Own Your Future: Update Your Skills with Resources and Career Ideas from Microsoft | MicrosoftFeed .::. Size~: 28.25 KBMar 24 19:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Just as I said before. You really should rename your website to Microsoft_Spoon_Feed. @Microsoft_FeedMar 24 19:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bezos and Ballmer have more in mind than just #Windows preference, #Linux tax, and #softwarepatents http://ur1.ca/rk3s #swpatMar 24 19:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Amazon Pushes Ridiculous Software Patents Into Europe | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 99.47 KBMar 24 19:31
schestowitzOmar87: no, not your linkMar 24 19:33
schestowitzI was referring to a post I made earlierMar 24 19:33
cubezzzLinux tax, I don't like the sound of thatMar 24 19:35
MinceRthat's what m$ wantsMar 24 19:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] All the best wishes to you!! [ RT @wikileaks: To those worrying about us--we're fine, and will issue a suitable riposte shortly. ]Mar 24 19:37
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aFriendany way I could send you an email on some M stuff?Mar 24 19:47
aFriendI'd rather keep anonymous in public channelsMar 24 19:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Scandal Versus #GNU Linux in #Argentina , Legal Case Further Confirmed http://ur1.ca/rk5yMar 24 19:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Microsoft Scandal Versus GNU/Linux in Argentina, Legal Case Further Confirmed | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 97.31 KBMar 24 19:49
MinceRnote that your anonymity is limitedMar 24 19:49
cubezzzsend it to me :)Mar 24 19:49
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cubezzzbut really I feel Microsoft is incompetentMar 24 19:51
cubezzzthey are a pain yes, but not scaryMar 24 19:52
cubezzzif they started making Microsoft brand CPUs I'd be a bit worried though :)Mar 24 19:52
cubezzzno one is truly locked into a MIcrosoft worldMar 24 19:53
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Kool! :D [RT @ioerror: I'm off to give a talk at Twitter HQ about Tor: Security, privacy, anonymity, and circumvention.]Mar 24 19:55
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schestowitzHeh. My friend has just joined identicahttp://identi.ca/conversation/25940260#notice-25939962 "@schestowitz Thanks Roy :-) Not sure I'll be here a lot, as I'm mostly on Twitter. But connected the accounts; have to see if it's any good."Mar 24 20:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.91 KBMar 24 20:05
schestowitzI doubt identica makes one's data downloadable thoughMar 24 20:07
schestowitzI don't like it when they do that to people's mail or whateverMar 24 20:07
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Off to see my Mum for second helping of #mumbuntu this week.Mar 24 20:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to interview Amber Graner, leader of the Ubuntu Women project on FLOSSWeekly - watch live at http://live.twit.tv/ #ubuntu #ald10Mar 24 20:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle: TWiT Live - Netcasts you love, from people you trust .::. Size~: 9.37 KBMar 24 20:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How Articles About #Novell Turn to #Promotion of Its Spouse, #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/rke7 part of a trend #monoMar 24 20:40
phIRCe-BNcTitle: How Articles About Novell Turn Into Promotion of Its Spouse, Microsoft | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 104.72 KBMar 24 20:40
schestowitzhttp://www.electricnews.net/story/show/10125727Mar 24 20:48
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ENN.ie - In The Papers 22 March .::. Size~: 22.94 KBMar 24 20:48
schestowitz"Novell said its board had authorised a review of alternatives for realising value for shareholders, including share buy-backs, dividend payments, a joint venture or alliance, or the sale of the company."Mar 24 20:48
cubezzzhow can Microsoft remove GNU/Linux from the market in Argentia?Mar 24 21:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Teabaggers resort to assassination attempts on US politicians and families. http://bit.ly/aokIMu #TeapartyMar 24 21:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Severed gas line found at home of Perriello brother | Charlottesville Daily Progress .::. Size~: 76.08 KBMar 24 21:07
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schestowitzcubezzz: back oom dealsMar 24 21:25
schestowitz*roomMar 24 21:25
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Militant MidgetMar 24 21:41
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/7017/1/Mar 24 21:53
schestowitzRed Hat doing strongMar 24 21:53
schestowitzMaybe Mac Asay should spread more rumours about them getting bought :-)Mar 24 21:54
MinceRor perhaps canonical should turn back and support FLOSS againMar 24 22:00
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_goblinhi allMar 24 22:02
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/25956774Mar 24 22:08
schestowitz"@schestowitz maybe it's just pr companies that sucker him then http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/24/pr-puppets-in-action/"Mar 24 22:08
schestowitz[Mac A.Mar 24 22:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Wednesday, 24-Mar-10 21:11:00 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.9 KBMar 24 22:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Press Fail | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 96.35 KBMar 24 22:08
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/25944512#notice-25957390 "@schestowitz this should be interesting- you don't mess with jeremy allison!"Mar 24 22:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.16 KBMar 24 22:08
schestowitzOmar87: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/99353-Iranian-Developers-Forced-to-Rely-on-Open-Source-SoftwareMar 24 22:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Escapist : News : Iranian Developers Forced to Rely on Open Source Software .::. Size~: 38.73 KBMar 24 22:17
schestowitzhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/99353-Iranian-Developers-Forced-to-Rely-on-Open-Source-SoftwareMar 24 22:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Escapist : News : Iranian Developers Forced to Rely on Open Source Software .::. Size~: 38.73 KBMar 24 22:18
schestowitzhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/99353-Iranian-Developers-Forced-to-Rely-on-Open-Source-SoftwareMar 24 22:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Escapist : News : Iranian Developers Forced to Rely on Open Source Software .::. Size~: 38.73 KBMar 24 22:18
schestowitzDamn. Oops. http://gamepolitics.com/2010/03/22/iranian-game-developer-prepares-launch-titleMar 24 22:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Iranian Game Developer Prepares to Launch Title | GamePolitics .::. Size~: 51.2 KBMar 24 22:18
WireWulfweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeMar 24 22:27
WireWulfunix 11 :PMar 24 22:28
schestowitzSLE* is @11Mar 24 22:28
schestowitzhttp://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/03/23/ubuntu-10-4-beta-is-bloody-brilliant/Mar 24 22:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu 10.4 beta is bloody brilliant | PC Pro blog .::. Size~: 84.75 KBMar 24 22:29
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WireWulfschestowitz: sle* huh?Mar 24 22:29
WireWulfunix stoped at 10 :PMar 24 22:29
WireWulfunixx system stoped at V r4Mar 24 22:30
WireWulfand no matter what M$ cant take the fact that both are better then windowsMar 24 22:30
WireWulf:PMar 24 22:30
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schestowitzhttp://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/22/interview-sergey-brin-on-googles-china-gambit/Mar 24 23:04
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schestowitzAha. http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/24/1816240/Wikipedia-Explains-Todays-Global-OutageMar 24 23:06
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot News Story | Wikipedia Explains Today's Global Outage .::. Size~: 129.6 KBMar 24 23:06
schestowitzSo it wasn't just meMar 24 23:06
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schestowitz" Earlier this month, Apple sued Taiwan-based HTC and accused it of infringing 20 hardware and software patents related to the iPhone." http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN237786920100324?type=marketsNewsMar 24 23:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: UPDATE 2-HTC CEO says Q1 results better-than-expected| Reuters .::. Size~: 53.02 KBMar 24 23:27
schestowitzzoobab: http://www.azobuild.com/news.asp?newsID=9693Mar 24 23:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: USPTO Awards Arc Flash Software Patent to EDSA .::. Size~: 19.12 KBMar 24 23:28
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schestowitzhttp://bostonreview.net/BR35.2/stallman.phpMar 24 23:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Boston Review &mdash; Richard Stallman: What Does That Server Really Serve? .::. Size~: 38.59 KBMar 24 23:45
MinceRawesome stuff >> http://sourceware.org/gdb/wiki/ReverseDebugMar 24 23:46
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