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schestowitz> <Old translation snipped>Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz>Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz>> Thanks so much!Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz>Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz> You're welcome ;-)Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz>Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz> Here is a corrected translation. (I'm sorry I am a perfectionist in thatFeb 01 00:32
schestowitz> regard). I used Google Translation and then made some corrections. ThisFeb 01 00:32
schestowitz> one is better IMO.Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz>Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz> It is important to have good translations. A bad translation will makeFeb 01 00:32
schestowitz> BN look "amateurish". We can't have that.Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz>> Feel free to extend.Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz>Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz> Nice, I would like to make clear that BN is a community site, so thatFeb 01 00:32
schestowitz> readers have the option to actually participate, via IRC and that thereFeb 01 00:32
schestowitz> is a news feed.Feb 01 00:32
schestowitz> BTW, in case someone asks why I don't post much, it's because I do filming for a documentary in London.Feb 01 00:33
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/josephtartakoff/statuses/8378758369Feb 01 21:36
schestowitzMicrosoftersFeb 01 21:36
schestowitz> Roy,Feb 01 22:07
schestowitz>Feb 01 22:07
schestowitz> I listened to FLOSS Weekly and I must commend you for your calm but yetFeb 01 22:07
schestowitz> upright appearance. I'm impressed with the way you handled theFeb 01 22:07
schestowitz> questions, not accepting the way they were framed.Feb 01 22:07
schestowitzThanks so much! I thought it was atrocious. Today I did an interview for Swiss and French television (http://www.tv5.org/ ), maybe US too. They were actually on my side, so I was calm and I could lay out the answers clearly. It lasted 3-4 hours and it was a lot of fun. I never listen to my show on FLOSS Weekly after they had recorded it. It was an embarrassment (to me at least).Feb 01 22:07
schestowitz> I took the liberty to translate the front page text to Swedish (sv_SE).Feb 01 22:09
schestowitz> I'm 25 years old and not actually in need of a translation myself, whichFeb 01 22:09
schestowitz> is precisely why I think I'm qualified to translate it. Some translationFeb 01 22:09
schestowitz> notices that you might be interested in: Linux is translated as "theFeb 01 22:09
schestowitz> kernel named Linux", abusing open source is "impoverishing open source",Feb 01 22:09
schestowitz> and promotes Microsoft's standards is "fortifies Microsoft's standards".Feb 01 22:09
schestowitzThanks so much. The Wiki can be edited by people who correct it (sometimes they do) and just having a human translation can help enormously.Feb 01 22:09
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schestowitz> Searching the French link for anything connected to the interview; I foundFeb 02 00:04
schestowitz> nothing.Feb 02 00:04
schestowitz>Feb 02 00:04
schestowitz> Hopefully you will obtain a link in English.Feb 02 00:04
schestowitz>Feb 02 00:04
schestowitz> 1.  What were a couple of the main subjects you were asked about?Feb 02 00:04
schestowitzY2k, Gartner...Feb 02 00:04
schestowitz> 2.   What do the sponsors of the interview offer viewers.  Is it a magazineFeb 02 00:04
schestowitz> type format like 60 minutes or a specialized tech information show?Feb 02 00:04
schestowitz> Obviously, you had some knowledge they thought would be pertinent.Feb 02 00:04
schestowitzIt's TSR, a TV station. They do a dodumenatry.Feb 02 00:04
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schestowitzOK, I looked up Jeff.  It was not pleasant but it was educational.  >Feb 02 12:07
schestowitz> Jeff goes from divide and conquer to flat out ass.  You raised the alarm  early, while the Microsoft people and Miguel were pushing Mono dependencies into Gnome and GNU/Linux distributions.  You did it politely and carefully.  Jeff rudely called that a "conspiracy theory" and you an ignorant controversy generator.  As evidence of that he offered that Red Hat and others were happy to ship mono.\Feb 02 12:08
schestowitz> Years later, those distributions have stripped mono out and your conclusions were backed by the FSF and RMS, who were then abused by Gnome loudmouths.  Thank you for raising the alarm  before more damage was done.  Even though you got a technical detail or two wrong, your big picture analysis was right and Jeff was a tool who now openly makes fun of Ubuntu and Ubuntu Women with pictures of women's rear ends.Feb 02 12:08
schestowitz> Here's a large part of the arc of his presence at BN:Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/29/gnome-mono-plan/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/10/01/novell-mono-patent/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/10/31/odf-germany-gnome-ooxml/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/05/gnome-mono-yelp/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/07/gnome-corrections/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/08/gnome-stance-ooxml/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/19/press-versus-open-standards/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/23/novell-helps-ooxml-2/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/24/mono-patents-taboo/Feb 02 12:08
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/24/love-gnome-beware-mono/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml-ecma/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/gnome-foundation-ooxml/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/25/1500-posts/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/26/the-novell-fud-never-existed/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/26/gnome-ooxml-clarification-opposition/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/30/ooxml-dilemma-odf/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/04/novell-at-xml-2007/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/09/microsoft-buying-love/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/10/podcast-reaction-gnome-ooxml/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/11/ooxml-mono-ubuntu/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/12/ooxml-open-questions/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/19/dell-dvd-dmca-novell/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/Feb 02 12:13
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2007/12/22/ooxml-influence-by-contract/Feb 02 12:14
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/26/monoization-beagle-novell/Feb 02 12:14
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/31/gnome-mono-depenency-dbus/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/15/mono-contamination-in-ubuntu/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/16/microsoft-ooxml-shills/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/mark-shuttleworth-on-patents/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/10/microsoft-novell-together/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/17/dot-net-ruby-ironruby-trap/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/31/mono-renamed-duo-joke/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/03/gartner-price-fixing-accusation/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/30/interop-benefits-microsoft/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/02/selling-linux-fear-again/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/02/bsd-gpl-stallman-smear/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/04/lobby-laws-and-patents/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/22/odf-ooxml-synopsis/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/23/mono-controversial/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/11/mono-2-beyond-the-hype/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/08/29/brins-donate-to-cc/Feb 02 12:22
schestowitz> Lefty made shameful use of Jeff's bad work.  It is interesting to note the  connection between the two attacks on Boycott Novell.  It's as if Lefty  studdied the incident before he launched his attack.Feb 02 12:28
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/19/ms-vs-ukraine-linux-foss/Feb 02 12:28
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/17/microsoft-apologists-vs-rms/Feb 02 12:28
schestowitz> Lefty's linking the nastiest of Jeff's works from your comments may have  contributed to their prominence in any search for "site:boycottnovell.com Jeff Waugh"  The long list above mostly comes from the second, third and fourth page of results.  The further I got in the results, the worse things looked for Jeff.Feb 02 12:28
schestowitz> The trend is so strong that some kind of Gnome/M$ Novel link farming must be at work "optimizing" Google's search results.  As my interest in this was spurred by Jeff's tasteless porn on the first page for a "Ubuntu" image search, I'm not surprised.Feb 02 12:28
schestowitz> I am surprised, looking back on it, that you let the trolls get away with calling me rude and saying that I use foul language frequently.  I'm not and I don't.  It is also funny that Lefty, using a sock puppet, "zatoichi" claims to not use sock puppets while accusing you of censorship.Feb 02 12:28
schestowitz> Another commenter, also probably a Jeff or Lefty sock puppet, throws slime on you by saying that Jeff and you are "on the same level".  This kind of division makes the whole community look bad and I think that's exactly what both Jeff and Lefty aimed to do from the start.Feb 02 12:28
schestowitz> Congratulations on surviving two waves of attack.  The attackers are very  nasty people, detailed, energetic and dedicated to libel.  I don't think either Jeff or Lefty will be around again.  This kind of attack burns up credibility quickly.Feb 02 12:28
schestowitz> > that's jeff the arsehole, from gnome foundation. Search BN for "jeff waugh".Feb 02 12:28
schestowitz>> Tue Feb  2 14:12:12 2010| *** Twitter: Already following 'emacs_user'Feb 02 16:09
schestowitz>Feb 02 16:09
schestowitz> I don't really have the time or inclination ..Feb 02 16:09
schestowitzI worked this out for you... it gets funneled into BN IRC.Feb 02 16:09
schestowitz>> Tue Feb  2 14:12:12 2010| *** Twitter: Already following 'emacs_user'Feb 02 16:09
schestowitz>Feb 02 16:09
schestowitz> I don't really have the time or inclination ..Feb 02 16:09
schestowitzI worked this out for you... it gets funneled into BN IRC.Feb 02 16:09
schestowitzOops.Feb 02 16:09
schestowitz"Feb 02 16:12
schestowitzIt would not be a bad idea of some other Portuguese polyglot readFeb 02 16:12
schestowitzthis, it may contain some mistakes or some ideas may be expressed inFeb 02 16:12
schestowitzbetter ways.Feb 02 16:12
schestowitz"Feb 02 16:12
schestowitzMinceR: when can you do one too?Feb 02 16:12
MinceRi don't know yet, i also need to find a jobFeb 02 17:41
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schestowitzJobs?Feb 02 21:48
MinceRnopeFeb 02 21:55
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schestowitzhttp://soltesza.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/apples-ipad-vs-notion-inks-adam-tablet-with-ubuntu-battle-of-two-worlds/Feb 02 22:03
schestowitzThere's this weird story today. A friend of mine had me in his dream where I got shot, then chase down the "burglar" and then come back to do 50 pushups (after getting shot)Feb 02 22:04
schestowitzI can't hardly even remember dreamsFeb 02 22:04
MinceRi only rarely do, and even then it quickly fadesFeb 02 22:08
MinceRafaik the brain has mechanisms in place to prevent remembering dreamsFeb 02 22:08
MinceRit's a good thing because otherwise we'd mix them up with real memories :>Feb 02 22:09
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schestowitzYesFeb 02 22:39
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schestowitzFeh! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8490860.stmMaybe soon they'll send some kid on board with penis bomb and then justify strip search tooFeb 02 23:02
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8490860.stmFeb 02 23:02
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schestowitz> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz>Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qn37q/The_Virtual_Revolution_The_Great_Levelling/Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz>Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz>> Could you type it up cleanly so that I can publish?Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz>Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz> Yea, Give me a day or so, I'll type it up, you watch the video, takeFeb 03 12:49
schestowitz> notes and add to mine. We divide it into main headings.Feb 03 12:49
schestowitzI watched it last night. You're right.Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz> Is there a video upload service we can put it on so as the rest of the world can see it. IS it on BBC-World or sattilite. More people need to see it. Especially the WOZ. I figure a lot of creating quoting going on therre. I assume it is the WOZ.Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz> - cut -Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz> 01. Who pioneered the WEBFeb 03 12:49
schestowitz>Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz> Well according to the BBC it was Tim-Berners-Lee and Bill Gates. While the former did actually invent HTML, billgs contribution is less clear. ..Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz> - paste -Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz>Feb 03 12:49
schestowitz> See what I mean ?Feb 03 12:49
schestowitzTHEY NEVER mentioned Netscape. I was like, "are they INSANE??"Feb 03 12:49
oiaohmyep insane.Feb 03 13:12
oiaohmNCSA Mosaic  the source of netscape was really the founder.Feb 03 13:13
oiaohmThe created the first major web server as well before the .net boom where appache killed them.Feb 03 13:14
MinceRdon't you mean .com? :>Feb 03 13:18
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oiaohmI did mean .net boom.  As BBS converted to ISP's MinceRFeb 03 13:38
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schestowitz> "Windows 7 has more advanced security than OS X"Feb 03 14:29
schestowitz>Feb 03 14:29
schestowitz> It don't, it does have more security widgets, that's because OS XFeb 03 14:29
schestowitz> don't need them ...Feb 03 14:29
schestowitz>Feb 03 14:29
schestowitz> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/feb/03/mac-or-pc-securityFeb 03 14:29
schestowitzGuardian editor mailed me... they are not happy with my criticism of theirs.Feb 03 14:29
MinceRlol @ the notion of osx not needing security featuresFeb 03 14:31
MinceRtypical crApple fanboyismFeb 03 14:31
schestowitzExorcist Jobs blessed itFeb 03 14:36
schestowitz>> THEY NEVER mentioned Netscape. I was like, "are they INSANE??"Feb 03 14:56
schestowitz>Feb 03 14:56
schestowitz> Or Apple, or IBM or the deal with MICROS~1, or that Internet ExplorerFeb 03 14:56
schestowitz> was bought from SPYGLASS, and based on NSCA mozilla ?Feb 03 14:56
schestowitz> What do you think, ?Feb 03 16:32
schestowitz>Feb 03 16:32
schestowitz> I would like you to transcribe her opening remarks regarding Africa,Feb 03 16:32
schestowitz> to place the rest in context. For anyone watching up to now, whatFeb 03 16:32
schestowitz> impression would they take away as to who 'pioneered' the WEB ????Feb 03 16:32
schestowitzSo far it's good. I need this piece to show another example of the BBC glorifying Bill (I have other examples). This enables us to make people skeptical about anything they read in the Beeb about Bill.Feb 03 16:32
schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-chegg-names-former-yahoo-coo-rosensweig-ceo/Feb 03 16:34
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schestowitz>> Yes, I'm often surprised by how much a translation can do.Feb 03 18:24
schestowitzI reckon many people are too lazy to read more than just the intro...Feb 03 18:24
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/SvenskaFeb 03 18:24
schestowitz30 times so far, about 10 per day then.Feb 03 18:24
schestowitz>> To me, reading English is second nature, but many of my neighbors have significant problems with English reading comprehension. Either that, or they read way too slow. In order to keep up with news, you have to be a speedy reader.Feb 03 18:24
schestowitzOr latch onto key nouns, or scan headlines, which is my favourite for getting 'average'Feb 03 18:24
schestowitzimpressions.Feb 03 18:24
schestowitzMore on the BBC smear jobFeb 03 18:37
schestowitz> This video is making me very fucking angry as I listen and transcribeFeb 03 18:37
schestowitz> it. How long will you be about ? I want to post it to you this eveningFeb 03 18:37
schestowitz> (before 9:00) and you get it out ..Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz>Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz> Get a load of this from 10:58, talking about libertarianism, theFeb 03 18:37
schestowitz> 'free' software movement and shots of hippies smoking joints. MustFeb 03 18:37
schestowitz> have been done. deliberately.Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz>Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz> I can imagine the script instructions: Instead of an interview withFeb 03 18:37
schestowitz> real Internet pioneers, lets type up some shit about libertarianismFeb 03 18:37
schestowitz> and cross fade that with joint smoking hippie types.Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz>Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz>Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz> What a total fucking disgrace ..Feb 03 18:37
schestowitzYes, that pissed me off too! It's like anti "Freetard" programme.Feb 03 18:37
schestowitz> Please watch the BBC video and note down who appears, and in whatFeb 03 18:40
schestowitz> order. Same with companies and logos. I need to verify this with myFeb 03 18:40
schestowitz> post. As far as I can see, there is no mention of Paul Allen or SteveFeb 03 18:40
schestowitz> Jobs. or the Mozilla people or the TCP/IP people. See that I'm gettingFeb 03 18:40
schestowitz> at. Where are the real pioneers.Feb 03 18:40
schestowitzNo Google, no Cerf.... I noticed that. Just hippies versus those evil "web giants"...and a fake hypothesis.Feb 03 18:40
schestowitz> How can you make a program on the Internet without not mentioningFeb 03 18:40
schestowitz> Apple or IBM or Novel or .. remember all the other smaller desktopFeb 03 18:40
schestowitz> companies that were around before the IBM-PC.Feb 03 18:40
schestowitzIt was not about the Internet. It's about those "Evil anarchists" and their "Crazy" agenda.Feb 03 18:40
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schestowitz> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qn37q/The_Virtual_Revolution_The_Great_Levelling/Feb 04 14:07
schestowitzCould you type it up cleanly so that I can publish?Feb 04 14:07
schestowitzI have a good post comingFeb 04 14:08
schestowitzOops. To clarify, that's a quoteFeb 04 14:08
schestowitzI already got someone typing it upFeb 04 14:08
schestowitz"Yea, Give me a day or so, I'll type it up, you watch the video, take notes and add to mine. We divide it into main headings. Is there a video upload service we can put it on so as the rest of the world can see it. IS it on BBC-World or satellite. More people need to see it. Especially the WOZ. I figure a lot of creating quoting going on therre. I assume it is the WOZ."Feb 04 14:18
schestowitz"You can legally pas on any email you receive. Once it's i n your inbox it's yours to keep and what you want."Feb 04 14:19
schestowitz"How long will you be about ? I want to post it to you this evening (before 9:00) and you get it out .."Feb 04 14:22
schestowitz"Check the article, would you, for accuracies and add in names of who is doing the talking, I've lost track."Feb 04 14:23
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schestowitz> You did well, watching the video again, I suspect that the presented didn't actually write those words herself. It's clever getting a media babe to say them on camera. What kind of bastard could criticise such a babe -eah :)Feb 04 17:46
schestowitz> It's a highly skilled well put together piece of self-serving coporate propaganda. It must have took a team weeks/months to put together. For us we would need our own team to defud it. What should have been done:Feb 04 17:46
schestowitz> 01. Transcribe the whole thingFeb 04 17:46
schestowitz> 02. Fact check every utteranceFeb 04 17:46
schestowitz> 03. Type up what really happenedFeb 04 17:46
schestowitz> 04. Point out the clever use of negative imagery over any discussion of 'free' libertariansFeb 04 17:46
schestowitz> 05. Point out the combination of positive 'business' type images combined with quotes from his billness,Feb 04 17:46
schestowitz> 06. An opening paragraph, setting the Video in contextFeb 04 17:46
schestowitz> 07. A closing paragraphFeb 04 17:46
schestowitzYou can still do this. If you have the time, reuse the text you have already extracted and expand. This is fun!!Feb 04 17:46
schestowitz> Login and post your own comment, Begin it with "Yes, Jack"Feb 04 18:15
schestowitz>Feb 04 18:15
schestowitz>Feb 04 18:15
schestowitz> "That was an awful lot of typing just to take a bitter potshot at BillFeb 04 18:16
schestowitz> Gates. Just let it go and let him do his charity work, for Christ'sFeb 04 18:16
schestowitz> sake. And as for the BBC--media make mistake about computers, what aFeb 04 18:16
schestowitz> first!"Feb 04 18:16
schestowitz>Feb 04 18:16
schestowitz> http://slashdot.org/submission/1165728/who-pioneered-the-WEBFeb 04 18:16
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schestowitz> Hi Roy,Feb 05 12:04
schestowitz>Feb 05 12:04
schestowitz> Flatfish is crowing on COLA about the homepage of boycottnovell.comFeb 05 12:04
schestowitz> -- http://boycottnovell.com/ or http://www.boycottnovell.com/ --Feb 05 12:04
schestowitz> being blank, which it is, to Firefox, Lynx, and Konqueror.Feb 05 12:04
schestowitz>Feb 05 12:04
schestowitz> Internal pages of the site are OK.Feb 05 12:04
schestowitz>Feb 05 12:04
schestowitz> Thanks for all the news you post to COLA -- it's the best stuffFeb 05 12:04
schestowitz> on there!Feb 05 12:05
schestowitz>Feb 05 12:05
schestowitz> Keep up the great work!Feb 05 12:05
schestowitz> Schest: can you copy that video to disk, I don't have the equipment.Feb 05 12:05
schestowitz> It's important. I want to post it to someone. It isn't accessable inFeb 05 12:05
schestowitz> the US.Feb 05 12:05
schestowitz>Feb 05 12:05
schestowitz> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qn37q/The_Virtual_Revolution_The_Great_Levelling/Feb 05 12:05
schestowitzI know just how to rip Youtube vids.Feb 05 12:06
schestowitzDoes anyone here know how to rip iplayer?Feb 05 12:06
schestowitz> It's still blank here.  Firefox shows the URL of the blank pageFeb 05 15:04
schestowitz> I end up with as:Feb 05 15:04
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:04
schestowitz> http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Main_PageFeb 05 15:04
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:04
schestowitz> Here are the two tcp streams captured by ethereal when lynx goesFeb 05 15:04
schestowitz> to boycottnovell.com.  The first part of each goes from me toFeb 05 15:04
schestowitz> 216.105.40.123, and the second from 216.105.40.123 to me:Feb 05 15:04
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:04
schestowitz> ***********************************************************Feb 05 15:05
schestowitz> GET / HTTP/1.0Feb 05 15:05
schestowitz> Host: boycottnovell.comFeb 05 15:05
schestowitz> Accept: text/html, text/plain, text/css, text/sgml, */*;q=0.01Feb 05 15:05
schestowitz> Accept-Encoding: gzip, bzip2Feb 05 15:05
schestowitzGrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........Feb 05 15:05
schestowitz> I guess whatever proxy/cache server I'm getting the data from hasn'tFeb 05 15:08
schestowitz> updated yet?  I'm in Mountain View, California, 50 miles south ofFeb 05 15:08
schestowitz> San Francisco.  Here's my traceroute to the site.  It pretty muchFeb 05 15:08
schestowitz> heads straight south to San Diego, Calif., where copilotco.com'sFeb 05 15:08
schestowitz> domain record says it's located.  The 30msec delay times areFeb 05 15:08
schestowitz> consistent with Mountain View to San Diego.Feb 05 15:08
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:08
schestowitz> traceroute boycottnovell.comFeb 05 15:08
schestowitz> traceroute to boycottnovell.com (216.105.40.123), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDPFeb 05 15:08
schestowitz"Yes, I be happy to help within reason (time constraints). Just keep in mind, Standard Mandarin is the official language of the People's Republic of China (PRC). Whereas I speak Hokkien, (福建話) part of the Min language group, which is widely spoken in southern Fujian, Taiwan, Singapore and Malaysia. Also, it does take a great deal of time to properly translate, so if your needing legal stuff, or scientific terminology, IFeb 05 15:37
schestowitzmust consult with others on the matter. Would this be translated from the source language of (???) into what other language here?  I'm thinking you want Chinese simplified into English?  I'm a bit older, more familiar with traditional Chinese characters, NOT them simplified Communist Party language from those Han's in Beijing! "Feb 05 15:37
schestowitz"Also, just so you know, When writing Hokkien in Chinese characters, it's not possible to always use existing characters, which means there isn't going to be an available character encoded in Unicode, thus creating problems when using character encoding sets that computers depend upon for written language. You should understand, that Hokkien, like Cantonese, Korean hanja, Vietnamese chữ nôm and Japanese kanji also have thisFeb 05 15:37
schestowitzissue too. Perhaps, the English language is better after all, because of how individuals can learn it faster! "Feb 05 15:37
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schestowitzI have a friend here from Honk Kong and I spoke to him yesterday about it. I guess a translation would be tricky here after all. Let's leave it.Feb 05 15:39
schestowitz"Suggestion: You might want to inquire with universities or schools with students who are becoming sociolinguistics to consider the rewards of having their effort be seen on the Internet, provided you give them credit, so as to be hired by someone else later? I'm thinking in the U.S. that Duke University would be a good starting place, if your looking for Chinese into English translation. Perhaps these students can help rallyFeb 05 15:39
schestowitzbehind your purpose and goals to reform the software industry?  What other better method would there be, but in the institution of education? I can hear them chanting “Open source software” right? "Feb 05 15:39
schestowitz> In China, the number #1 killer related to health is LUNG CANCER!Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz> Can we guess why to see the above photo taken in Beijing, China?Feb 05 15:43
schestowitzWe now cover environment issues too in Boycott Novell.Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz> What are we (majority) waiting for?Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz> That 100% of the World to be own by the Rich?Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz> Or do we start swimming in the other 60% -Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz> …in the Ocean, or freeze in the Antarctica ozone depletion zone?Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz> Should we wait for the Rich to save us?Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz>Feb 05 15:43
schestowitz> There is only 1% them, 99% US!Feb 05 15:43
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/mysql-founder-monty-widenius-on-what-to-expect-nextFeb 05 20:53
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schestowitz>> http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/8637657211Feb 06 12:33
schestowitz>Feb 06 12:33
schestowitz> Never heard of him ...Feb 06 12:33
schestowitzJournalist.Feb 06 12:33
schestowitzYour work got many other responses:Feb 06 12:33
schestowitzhttp://www.ubervu.com/conversations/boycottnovell.com/2010/02/04/bbc-net-propaganda/Feb 06 12:33
schestowitz Feb 06 12:33
schestowitz> The second episode of 'the virtual revolution' is on tonight, watch itFeb 06 12:33
schestowitz> and take notes !!!Feb 06 12:34
schestowitzI don't have a TV anymore. Will it be online?Feb 06 12:34
schestowitzThanks for all the work BTW!Feb 06 12:34
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fewahttp://www.gnu.org/graphics/jesus-cartoon.htmlFeb 07 16:57
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schestowitz[21:18] <kentma> Roy - are you there?Feb 07 21:51
schestowitzFeb 07 21:51
schestowitz[21:51] <kentma> roy - if you could get in touch with Keith and ensure he's okay, I'd be very grateful.Feb 07 21:51
schestowitz[21:51] <schestowitz> Will doFeb 07 21:51
schestowitz[21:51] <kentma> many thanks... life's far too short to be worried about star trek.Feb 07 21:53
schestowitz[21:52] <kentma> :-)Feb 07 21:53
schestowitz[21:53] <schestowitz> "InfightingFeb 07 21:53
schestowitz[21:53] <schestowitz> Hey Mate,Feb 07 21:53
schestowitz[21:53] <schestowitz> What's with the *plonking* of Mark? :-) It makes us look bad... and over Star Trek???Feb 07 21:53
schestowitz[21:53] <schestowitz> Let's focus our attention (or lessen attention) on the real trolls. :-)Feb 07 21:53
schestowitz[21:53] <schestowitz> "Feb 07 21:53
schestowitzAFeb 07 22:02
schestowitzFeb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:00] <kentma> Is he alive and well?Feb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:00] <schestowitz> AFAIK yesFeb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:01] <kentma> okay, well after that, I suppose it's up to him.Feb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:01] <schestowitz> His mother's death was a blowFeb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:01] <schestowitz> That was 2 years ago thoughFeb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:01] <kentma> Indeed, and I'd've thought he'd be over it by now, but apparently not.Feb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:01] <schestowitz> I don't want to be seen as pressuring him. it has to come from him.Feb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:01] <kentma> Or perhaps not.Feb 07 22:02
schestowitz^^^ Cola problemnsFeb 07 22:02
schestowitzFeb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:02] <kentma> That's fine, and I appreciate that.  I was more worried that there was some other underlying issue, as frankly, this is a discussion about star-trek, with someone I've known for a long time, so the behaviour would seem to be out of character, hence my concer.Feb 07 22:02
schestowitz[22:02] <kentma> concern.Feb 07 22:02
schestowitzMany trolls in COLA recently... libel against meFeb 07 22:03
schestowitzMeans I do something right :-)Feb 07 22:03
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schestowitz[21:11] <jono> btw, I want to send you an Ubuntu shirt, would you mind sending me your address?Feb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <schestowitz> Cool, sureFeb 09 21:13
schestowitzFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <jono> just email to me, and include your t-shirt sizeFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <jono> :)Feb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <schestowitz> F2-20Feb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <schestowitz> Sir Charles Groves HallFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <schestowitz> Booth Street WestFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <schestowitz> Manchester M15 6PYFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <schestowitz> United KingdomFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <jono> ahhh sweetFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <schestowitz> xlFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:12] <jono> will ask Cezz at the office to drop one in the postFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:13] <schestowitz> OhFeb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:13] <schestowitz> It's F2-14Feb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:13] <schestowitz> My bad...Feb 09 21:13
schestowitz[21:13] <schestowitz> Cool, thanskFeb 09 21:13
schestowitzThey try to entice me...........Feb 09 21:13
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schestowitz> Hi Roy,Feb 11 12:44
schestowitz>Feb 11 12:44
schestowitz> Sorry to be so slow at answering this.  It's been a rather hectic monthFeb 11 12:44
schestowitz> (or two).Feb 11 12:44
schestowitz>Feb 11 12:44
schestowitz> You know...or I hope you know...that I'm always happy to create aFeb 11 12:44
schestowitz> graphic (or two or three) for you, if there's something specific you'dFeb 11 12:44
schestowitz> need.  I'll do my best, anyway.Feb 11 12:44
schestowitz>Feb 11 12:44
schestowitz> As for just coming up with ideas in general, I'll see what I can thinkFeb 11 12:44
schestowitz> up.  But if you have any graphics in mind let me know.  Sometimes it'sFeb 11 12:44
schestowitz> easier if I have something to start from.Feb 11 12:44
schestowitzExcellent! Hey, how about we create a "cartoon" category and put in it some weekly/monthly image about FOSS? Can you draw Ballmer and Gates caricatures? :-)Feb 11 12:44
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YOIImOoYMFeb 11 14:56
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schestowitzHe's OK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLIKAyzeIw4&feature=fvwFeb 11 22:00
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schestowitz[00:48] <qu1j0t3> wow, tough crowd. jeeezuzFeb 12 02:43
schestowitz[01:21] *** qu1j0t3 is now known as FurnaceBoy.Feb 12 02:43
schestowitz[02:30] <schestowitz> he's in uk govtFeb 12 02:43
schestowitz[02:31] <schestowitz> gobFeb 12 02:43
schestowitz[02:31] <FurnaceBoy> sighFeb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:31] <FurnaceBoy> fence-sitterFeb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:31] <FurnaceBoy> which one, thistleweb/gordon or goblin?Feb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:31] <FurnaceBoy> really not a nice scene, to be called namesFeb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:31] <FurnaceBoy> i don't call people names.Feb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:32] <FurnaceBoy> yeah i should have figured.Feb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:32] <FurnaceBoy> he's a fence sitterFeb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:32] <FurnaceBoy> borderline apologistFeb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:32] <FurnaceBoy> hehFeb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:32] <FurnaceBoy> there i go calling names.Feb 12 02:44
schestowitz[02:32] <FurnaceBoy> but not in public ;-)Feb 12 02:44
schestowitzOh, cool......Feb 12 02:49
schestowitz"I've attached an HTML version of the French translation of the introduction page. Judging by how many "[en]" (English) marks I had to put beside the links, there is a lot of work to be done. I may be sending you translations of other pages, as they seem to be pretty moderately sized. On a totally different topic, my father (who prides himself on being a political conservative) just sent me a message today warning me aboutFeb 12 02:49
schestowitzdrinking milk with rBGH. I replied by giving him the links to the "Patent for a Pig" video series, which I find to be compelling. It seems to be one of the things we agree on politically. Thanks for publishing that. It also gives a pretty startling introduction to the insane situation of "intellectual property". "Feb 12 02:49
schestowitz[03:55] <FurnaceBoy> sighFeb 12 03:59
schestowitz[03:56] <FurnaceBoy> i suppose i come off as an extremistFeb 12 03:59
schestowitz[03:56] <FurnaceBoy> fence-sitters and pragmatists hate me, and they annoy the heck out of meFeb 12 03:59
schestowitz[03:56] <FurnaceBoy> there's too many of emFeb 12 03:59
schestowitz[03:56] <FurnaceBoy> it's funny, when daemonfc talks about censorshipFeb 12 03:59
schestowitz[03:57] <FurnaceBoy> i censor my tweets because i work with americansFeb 12 03:59
schestowitz[03:57] <FurnaceBoy> half of my team would be offended if i spoke my mindFeb 12 03:59
schestowitzFeb 12 04:00
schestowitz[03:57] <FurnaceBoy> so i can't say that i don't censor myselfFeb 12 04:00
schestowitz[03:57] <FurnaceBoy> i hope to move to europe and simply stop listening to the USFeb 12 04:00
schestowitz[03:57] <FurnaceBoy> it's been a really painful 8.5 yearsFeb 12 04:00
schestowitz[03:58] <FurnaceBoy> and moreso the 7 years since the iraq invasionFeb 12 04:00
schestowitz[03:58] <FurnaceBoy> and now we see everyone escaping like cockroachesFeb 12 04:00
schestowitz[03:58] <FurnaceBoy> Chilcott was a failureFeb 12 04:00
schestowitz[03:58] <FurnaceBoy> this is very dishearteningFeb 12 04:00
schestowitzCOLA trouble...Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz> This is deeply sad, Homer seems to have jumped down some really bizarre rabbit hole here.Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz> I don't think he's even stopped to think what I mean by the remarkFeb 12 09:18
schestowitz> regarding altruism, rather, he became exceptionally emotional about aFeb 12 09:18
schestowitz> discussion on the trivial (star-trek) and has since gone one to accuseFeb 12 09:18
schestowitz> me of all kinds of things which are clearly untrue, and not supported byFeb 12 09:18
schestowitz> what I've written.Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz> He's suffering a huge dose of congnitive dissonance, and has even gone to the point of writing a personally abusive message to me in an email rejection message, behaviour worthy of a tantruming child, not a mature and intelligent adult.Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz> As you probably know, I don't do doctrine, and I don't do sacred...Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz> I remain concerned about his mental stability, and I think he's projecting his own problems onto me, but there is little I can do about this.Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:18
schestowitz> I hope he recovers from thisFeb 12 09:18
schestowitzYes, I think that's what's happening. But it's not as harmful as a behaviour can get.Feb 12 09:18
schestowitzHmmmmmmmmm...........Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz> Congrats on the 9000's post. I notice the comment about finances.Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz> What's up?Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz> I see that there aren't any ads visible to click on.  I almost neverFeb 12 09:22
schestowitz> click through, but could do so a few times a week if that helps.Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz> You've been doing great work.  Your site seems now up there with GroklawFeb 12 09:22
schestowitz> as far as visibility, influence and importance.Feb 12 09:22
schestowitz>Feb 12 09:23
schestowitz> Are you going to post paypal and moneybookers tipjars or others?Feb 12 09:23
schestowitzI might have to, but people rarely donate.Feb 12 09:23
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schestowitzI think meshuggah is a mono infiltrat0rFeb 12 15:05
MinceRdunno, he didn't say much so farFeb 12 15:07
schestowitzI recall the nameFeb 12 15:08
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schestowitzMan Grows World's Longest Hair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYaYCPmFWKw&feature=related looks like a snakeFeb 12 20:18
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schestowitzGood talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCS1twX2i6s&feature=relatedFeb 13 13:06
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Feb 14 01:38
schestowitz> I haven't had time to research the details.Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz>Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz> This is an experimental service and boosting it might have some strategic benefits.  Testing it at Boycottnovell would be an excuse to see if it can bring in some funding.Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz>Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz> http://flattr.com/beta/Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz>Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz> http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/02/13/0251259Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz>Feb 14 01:39
schestowitz> Everyone admits Paypal sucks and not everyone uses it. Fewer are willing to use an international service like Moneybookers. However, the celebrity status of the Pirate Bay makes this worth looking at.Feb 14 01:39
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schestowitzMinceR: when you find the time, send a translation :-)Feb 14 20:25
MinceRi willFeb 14 20:25
schestowitz:-)Feb 14 20:25
schestowitzMeh: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/02/11/cashmore.google.buzz/index.htmlFeb 14 20:36
schestowitzCNN is propaganda. BBC too. Just always remember it.Feb 14 20:36
schestowitz[20:37] <FurnaceBoy> might stay out the channel for a bit, sick of ad hominems and torture/war apologists... ppl are really weird these days, even have an email fight in my inbox this weekFeb 14 20:38
schestowitzhttp://royaldutchshellplc.com/2010/02/13/shell-employee-data-breach-articles-generated-by-royaldutchshellplc-com/Feb 14 22:04
schestowitzThey have a site now....... pffffffftFeb 14 22:05
schestowitzCute-looking graphic designer at Red Hat .. http://opensource.com/life/10/2/open-thread-thursday-patients-meFeb 14 22:08
schestowitzhttp://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=firefox_manga_fan_art&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1Feb 14 22:08
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schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/2010/02/keith-olbermann-blames-bush-cheney-911-attacks/Feb 14 23:31
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schestowitzWTF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis&NR=1Feb 15 23:52
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schestowitzWTF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXlWsBhFvis&NR=1Feb 16 07:44
schestowitz> I took the time to ask Miguel if he actually used a Gnome desktop.  He decided  to be a smart ass instead of answering me.  I wonder if he will post this  reply:Feb 16 08:25
schestowitz>Feb 16 08:25
schestowitz> "You must have a very big head to fit such a device in it and to be so smarty.   Be careful not to think about OOXML and, for goodness sakes, never try to run  it with .NET.  Both will make you slow and contradictory but relatively easy  to use.  Just as soon as you are comfortable, Microsoft will take awayFeb 16 08:25
schestowitz> critical components and your head will suffer a painful contraction to normal  size.Feb 16 08:25
schestowitz>Feb 16 08:25
schestowitz> I should have know better than to expect an answer.  I'm having <a  href="http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2010/02/09/please-dont-rewrite-softwares-written-in-net">a  more interesting conversation with Philip</a>.  "Feb 16 08:25
schestowitz>Feb 16 08:25
schestowitz> SeeFeb 16 08:25
schestowitz>Feb 16 08:25
schestowitz> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Feb-14.htmlFeb 16 08:25
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schestowitz> 'Now watch this discussion at Linux Today. Rainer WeikusatFeb 16 13:59
schestowitz> reconstructs the arguments and starts with: “I have rarely seen suchFeb 16 13:59
schestowitz> an amazing amount of BS in a single text.”'Feb 16 13:59
schestowitz>Feb 16 13:59
schestowitz> This link is missing ..Feb 16 13:59
schestowitz>Feb 16 13:59
schestowitz> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-02-15-004-35-OS-MS-NT-0001Feb 16 13:59
schestowitz> Attached is a compressed HTML file of a French translation of the FAQ. IFeb 16 14:16
schestowitz> translated most of it except for the text taken from other postings, forFeb 16 14:16
schestowitz> which I suppose that I would need to get permission from the authors toFeb 16 14:16
schestowitz> translate. I trust you won't have any problems receiving this, but letFeb 16 14:16
schestowitz> me know if you do.Feb 16 14:16
schestowitzI've added http://boycottnovell.com/faq/faq-fr/Feb 16 14:17
schestowitzLinks to it were created from hubs such as:Feb 16 14:17
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/ (see sidebar)Feb 16 14:17
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/faq/Feb 16 14:17
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/FrancaisFeb 16 14:17
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page (next to FAQ)Feb 16 14:17
schestowitzMinceR: when you can do that little bit of the front page, I'd be grateful. I think translations give more credibility to the site's messageFeb 16 14:17
MinceRokFeb 16 14:18
schestowitzWe get as much traffic as Groklaw now.Feb 16 14:18
schestowitzThat was my goal originally :-)Feb 16 14:18
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schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/newsticker/news/item/Processor-Whispers-About-Parties-and-Party-Poopers-930047.htmlFeb 16 16:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1592092/tories-scum-sucking-pigsFeb 17 14:33
schestowitzThis sounds dubious:Feb 17 14:33
schestowitzThe Telford MP apologised for the comment but said it had been "tinkered with" to make it "more offensive".Feb 17 14:33
schestowitzWright told the BBC that this was a legitimate "edgy Twitter comment about the political process" and the Tories' "general policy position".Feb 17 14:33
schestowitzBut he insisted he never used the phrase "scum-sucking", saying his account had been hacked into and the phrase added by someone after the message was published. Wright has taken the comment down and has asked Twitter to investigate it.Feb 17 14:33
schestowitzWhy crack an account JUST TO ADD TWO WORDS?Feb 17 14:33
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schestowitz> I'm in sysadmin mode right now and appreciate direct and unambiguousFeb 17 17:15
schestowitz> material.Feb 17 17:15
schestowitzWe have a chance to bring information to Asay out in the public, not in private conversations.Feb 17 17:15
MinceRfunnyFeb 17 17:16
MinceRasay in "sysadmin mode" :DFeb 17 17:16
schestowitz*LOL*Feb 17 17:18
schestowitzNo, not himFeb 17 17:18
schestowitzsysadmin for him would be running with legal papers (admin)Feb 17 17:19
schestowitzF12 pulls out thr gavelFeb 17 17:19
MinceR(animated) http://i.imgur.com/vToZT.gifFeb 17 17:20
MinceRoh.Feb 17 17:20
schestowitzahFeb 17 17:21
schestowitzso *that's* what really happenedFeb 17 17:21
MinceR:>Feb 17 17:21
schestowitzIs this the olympic death?Feb 17 17:22
MinceRi think soFeb 17 17:22
MinceRdidn't see the real thing, only heard about itFeb 17 17:22
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daKEFmB-WFMFeb 17 21:59
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MinceRgood videoFeb 18 00:59
MinceRso is the other one (how to comment on youtube)Feb 18 01:00
schestowitzYou should take a look at his uploaded list (about 250). He's more fun than TVFeb 18 01:05
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schestowitzThis is funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHH-Pj2UmycFeb 18 15:48
schestowitz> The contract for the head of Finnish Broadcasting (YLE), Mikael Jungner,Feb 18 16:25
schestowitz> is not being renewed.Feb 18 16:25
schestowitz>Feb 18 16:25
schestowitz> He will be replaced by another, one Lauri Kivinen.  His background isFeb 18 16:25
schestowitz> most recently Nokia-Siemens.  I'm not sure where he stands on openFeb 18 16:25
schestowitz> standards.  Jungner was appointed amidst, and coming from, a bit ofFeb 18 16:25
schestowitz> scandal via Microsoft and promptly set about locking online broadcastingFeb 18 16:25
schestowitz> into Microsoft products and formats.  He eventually took terrible heatFeb 18 16:25
schestowitz> for it and did a 180.  The replacement is from the far right party, BushFeb 18 16:25
schestowitz>  / Blair fans.  Ironically, Jungner is getting the boot for being fromFeb 18 16:25
schestowitz> another party, but he was assisting a politician during the little BushFeb 18 16:26
schestowitz> invasion of Iraq.  His boss broke the Finnish constitution with anFeb 18 16:26
schestowitz> illegal deal with Bush.Feb 18 16:26
schestowitz>Feb 18 16:26
schestowitz> We'll see how open standards shake out now.  Nokia has been hot andFeb 18 16:26
schestowitz> cold.  It's been rather anti-FOSS though, despite noises about Maemo nowFeb 18 16:26
schestowitz> Meego (name had to have been from a Lovecraft fan).Feb 18 16:26
MinceR:>Feb 18 16:26
schestowitz> Hi Roy,Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz>Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz> Sorry to be so slow.   I've been completely overwhelmed this lastFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> several weeks.  So much going on with family and work, I'm just aboutFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> frazzled.Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz>Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz> However, I believe I can do some Gates and Ballmer cartoons.  Be patientFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> though, I have to work on them in my spare time...which has been ratherFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> sparse lately...Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz>Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz> Also wanted to tell you that the BN article outlining the spread of ODFFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> around the world was WONDERFUL!  Having all of that in one place isFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> great (and should cause a few chairs to fly).  I knew that calls forFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> open documents were happening in many places, but there are seldomFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> follow-up stories to confirm that the use of open documents is actuallyFeb 19 14:43
schestowitz> happening.  So often those ODF stories are squelched.Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz>Feb 19 14:43
schestowitz> Anyway, I'll send some Gates/Ballmer 'toons as I get them done...Feb 19 14:43
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7z4aGZz08Feb 19 14:45
schestowitzNot republican = "Ant American"Feb 19 14:46
MinceRpatriot of the Anarchic States of Unamerica!Feb 19 14:47
MinceRoopsFeb 19 14:47
MinceRAnarchical Separatists of UnamericaFeb 19 14:47
MinceRhttp://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UnamericaFeb 19 14:47
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQK9qVaKw90Feb 19 14:52
schestowitzI like his videos. Better than TV...Feb 19 14:53
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESJtjvHZ2h0Feb 19 14:59
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eONygrTyibwFeb 20 23:54
schestowitzAlso: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9mdhsXQhrIFeb 21 00:00
schestowitz[11:02] <eduvid> have you looked my article,Feb 21 08:12
schestowitz[11:02] <eduvid> How are you, i am one of the big fan of yourFeb 21 08:12
schestowitz[11:02] <eduvid> :)Feb 21 08:12
schestowitz:-SFeb 21 08:12
schestowitz[04:45] <DeadSuperHero> Hey, Roy. Dunno if you're super busy right now, but I was wondering if you could help me out with something.Feb 21 08:13
schestowitz[04:46] <DeadSuperHero> As you may know, Ubuntu is integrating the 7Digital Music service into Rhythmbox in their upcoming Lucid Lynx release.Feb 21 08:13
schestowitz[04:46] <DeadSuperHero> Currently, this music service offers some tracks in FLAC, all tracks in MP3, and none in OGG.Feb 21 08:13
schestowitz[04:46] <DeadSuperHero> I started a petition to make them possibly consider using OGG on all their tracks. I started the petition today, so it's still really young, but I was wondering if you could help support it.Feb 21 08:13
schestowitz[04:47] <DeadSuperHero> You can find it here: http://www.petitiononline.com/ovsi7ds/petition.htmlFeb 21 08:13
schestowitz[04:47] <DeadSuperHero> Any help would be greatly appreciated.Feb 21 08:13
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjSplVOISLkFeb 21 11:39
schestowitzHeh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQYAPD-slzM&NR=1Feb 21 11:47
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schestowitzRichard Stallman:Feb 21 16:40
schestowitz>     That's an accurate paraphrase of the sense of his "little joke", I'mFeb 21 16:40
schestowitz>     afraid. "Members of the Church of EMACS have a holy duty to relieveFeb 21 16:40
schestowitz>     [woman who have never used EMACS] of their virginity".Feb 21 16:40
schestowitz>Feb 21 16:40
schestowitz> Those are not the words I said.  Did Schlesinger claim I said that?Feb 21 16:40
schestowitzDavid now threatens me for saying nothing but the truth: http://identi.ca/notice/22717547Feb 21 16:40
schestowitz"Hey, @schestowitz! I'll bet you the value of your computer that your article at http://bit.ly/dbCaOr is defamatory under UK libel law. =D"Feb 21 16:40
schestowitz[22:24] <[Someone]> how can I know if it's really you?Feb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:25] <[Someone]> perhaps I got sth neat for youFeb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:25] <schestowitz> Hey mateFeb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:25] <schestowitz> I'm registered in freenodeFeb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:25] <[Someone]> and you come from an UK addressFeb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:26] <[Someone]> I've got the ultra-secret (hidden behind 500€ and duty of secrecy) international procurement for the new "Magallaens" the classmate from Portugal.Feb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:26] <[Someone]> in it, the government demands Windows 7Feb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:27] <[Someone]> they also demand an office suite that imports/exports OOXMLFeb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:28] <[Someone]> that vague definition can mean anything, but most likely it translates into Must Be Compatible with MS Office 2003 and 2007Feb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:35] <schestowitz> Hmmmmm......Feb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:36] <schestowitz> Can you leak it to wikileaks?Feb 21 23:03
schestowitz[22:37] <[Someone]> I tried, but I don't even know if it was processed or not as I can't even see a list of recently leaked documentsFeb 21 23:04
schestowitz[22:37] <schestowitz> let's wait then :-)Feb 21 23:04
schestowitz[22:37] <[Someone]> I go to the site and I'm starting to believe they died.Feb 21 23:04
schestowitz[22:38] <schestowitz> NoFeb 21 23:04
schestowitz[22:38] <schestowitz> TransitionFeb 21 23:04
schestowitz[22:38] <schestowitz> mail me the file thenFeb 21 23:04
schestowitzFeb 21 23:04
schestowitz[22:56] <[Someone]> let's wait a couple more days, I'm trying to get the ministry in charge to change the procurement and re-open the candidacy period.Feb 21 23:04
schestowitz[22:57] <[Someone]> I'll give them a call tomorrow, it's been a full week since I requested a meeting to discuss illegal elements I found in the procurementFeb 21 23:04
schestowitz[23:03] <schestowitz> ThanksFeb 21 23:04
schestowitz<[Someone]> if they're not interested in solving the problem, break all eggs :)Feb 21 23:08
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schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/2010/02/fbi-probe-school-spying-webcams/Feb 22 19:54
schestowitzmus kills 40... http://rawstory.com/2010/02/mud-torrent-kills-40-islanders-portugal/Feb 22 19:56
schestowitzLike a suicide bombing... no coverage and panicFeb 22 19:56
schestowitz*mudFeb 22 19:56
schestowitz[20:37] <FurnaceBoy> might stay out the channel for a bit, sick of ad hominems and torture/war apologists... ppl are really weird these days, even have an email fight in my inbox this weekFeb 22 21:54
schestowitz[04:13] <-- FurnaceBoy has left this server (Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6.1).Feb 22 21:55
schestowitz[23:46] <-- FurnaceBoy has left this server (Quit: WeeChat 0.2.6.1).Feb 22 21:55
schestowitz[21:08] <FurnaceBoy> you trollin' goblin? of course the police aren't abusing power to arrest...Feb 22 21:55
schestowitz[21:25] <FurnaceBoy> heheheeee abuse NEVER happensFeb 22 21:55
schestowitz[21:42] <FurnaceBoy> heheheheFeb 22 21:55
schestowitzFeb 22 21:55
schestowitz[21:43] <FurnaceBoy> "abuse cannot happen in this system." same for surveillanceFeb 22 21:55
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schestowitzFeb 23 07:34
schestowitz[22:27] <FurnaceBoy> careful, you'll tweak Goblin. didn't he say '1984' didn't happen? :DFeb 23 07:34
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schestowitzPJ:Feb 24 00:15
schestowitz> I think it's best to wait a bit to see if he's being accurate or justFeb 24 00:15
schestowitz> retaliating for something.  I definitely want to follow the story, butFeb 24 00:15
schestowitz> I probably won't write about it until there's some proof on the table.Feb 24 00:15
schestowitzIt's like that drug/orgy Globes story... I think you can just quote the allegations.Feb 24 00:15
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/21/lawyers-fired-legal-budget-layoffs/Feb 24 00:15
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fewahttp://peakwatch.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452403c69e20120a7c41d72970b-piFeb 24 03:26
fewathats US energy useFeb 24 03:26
schestowitzhttp://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/23/congress_to_investigate_safety_of_naturalFeb 24 03:26
fewathere was allot of hubaloo over that in NYFeb 24 03:27
fewabut otherwise congress is a jokeFeb 24 03:31
fewathey have been running the attention-grabbing game since at least january, 2006Feb 24 03:31
schestowitzYeah...........Feb 24 03:31
fewawhen it finailly switched from mad lootingFeb 24 03:32
fewaAnthony Weiner is still my favorite as capable of the political collapse/recovery that the rest of the body is utterly incapable ofFeb 24 03:33
fewabut anyways, I'm not paying attentionFeb 24 03:34
schestowitzI try toFeb 24 03:34
fewahttp://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/02/collapse-gap-revisited.htmlFeb 24 03:36
fewahttp://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/02/products-and-services-for-permanently.htmlFeb 24 03:36
fewaChina or US?Feb 24 03:36
fewahttp://www.postcarbon.org/article/67429-china-or-the-u-s-which-willFeb 24 03:36
schestowitzI don't live in the USFeb 24 03:38
schestowitzbut pollution is globalFeb 24 03:38
schestowitzAnd they export corruption to usFeb 24 03:38
fewamehFeb 24 03:38
fewacorruption is inherantFeb 24 03:38
schestowitzI know, I kid...Feb 24 03:39
fewabut yes, political power does spread from the USFeb 24 03:39
fewaand the corruption with itFeb 24 03:39
schestowitzWe export some to you,toFeb 24 03:39
schestowitz*tooFeb 24 03:39
fewathats where it came fromFeb 24 03:39
fewaAnglo-saxon imperialismFeb 24 03:39
fewathe root of the mythFeb 24 03:39
schestowitzEasier to blame the big guysFeb 24 03:39
fewaalways been a tenuous relationshipFeb 24 03:39
fewalook at the revolution and after French/Britian gameFeb 24 03:39
fewaand where the child grew up: the Civil WarFeb 24 03:40
fewain which the rulers of both countries were on the side of the southFeb 24 03:40
fewa(both france and england)Feb 24 03:40
fewabut of course that rule over europe was tenuous...Feb 24 03:41
fewaanywaysFeb 24 03:42
fewaWhen I have some good news, I will share it with youFeb 24 03:42
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fewahttp://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/02/google-superbowl-ad-explains-need-search-privacyFeb 24 03:54
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADvbCWEPEt0Feb 24 11:44
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zSvY2Up2EAFeb 24 13:11
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schestowitz[23:14] <comradekingu> "Secret deals do not satisfy this satisfy this requirement and"  from latest rss on the amazon/ms dealFeb 24 23:47
schestowitz[23:14] <comradekingu> Hope you can fix this typo, looking forward to reading more about the amazon/ms dealFeb 24 23:47
schestowitz[23:46] <schestowitz> yeah, not my typoFeb 24 23:47
schestowitz[23:46] <schestowitz> Quotes textFeb 24 23:47
schestowitzFeb 24 23:50
schestowitz[23:47] <comradekingu> ok, happy to help outFeb 24 23:50
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schestowitzMinceR: you may like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1UjQ7PzrHYFeb 25 14:34
MinceRi did, to some extentFeb 25 15:01
MinceRhe takes too much time to say his point and seems to lump in ideologies with parties that claim to support themFeb 25 15:01
schestowitzyes, well... at least he speaks his own mindFeb 25 15:51
MinceRindeeedFeb 25 17:42
MinceRs/ee/e/Feb 25 17:42
schestowitzI'm tired of Obama fanbisFeb 25 18:22
schestowitz*foisFeb 25 18:22
schestowitz*bois evenFeb 25 18:23
schestowitz>>> Where is this screenshot that you are referring to ?Feb 25 18:23
schestowitz>>Feb 25 18:23
schestowitz>>> http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/24/screenshot-msbbc/Feb 25 18:23
schestowitz>Feb 25 18:23
schestowitz>> Got adblock?Feb 25 18:23
schestowitz>Feb 25 18:23
schestowitz> I see it now, you mean the advert for Microsoft, that's typical, I seeFeb 25 18:23
schestowitz> the same on theregister and slashdot, I don't know if the adverts areFeb 25 18:23
schestowitz> specifically targeted to anything that mentions Open Source ..Feb 25 18:24
schestowitz> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/Feb 25 18:25
schestowitz> >Feb 25 18:25
schestowitz> >Feb 25 18:25
schestowitz> > Have you ever read the timesonline news?Feb 25 18:25
schestowitz> >Feb 25 18:25
schestowitz> >Feb 25 18:25
schestowitz> > In the U,K, is it considered a rag tabloid or a publisher of avant-gardeFeb 25 18:25
schestowitz> > news?Feb 25 18:25
schestowitzYes, Times is TRASH. Guardian is good.Feb 25 18:25
MinceRindeedFeb 25 18:35
MinceR(at least for times being trash)Feb 25 18:35
schestowitzMurdochFeb 25 21:06
MinceRyupFeb 25 21:08
schestowitzI wonder if oil companies fund the old manFeb 25 21:31
schestowitzSo that he can feed the military machineFeb 25 21:31
schestowitz$500bn+/yearFeb 25 21:31
MinceR223941 < raatti> http://www.fucking-windows.com/Feb 25 21:55
MinceR223946 < raatti> resize the window for effectsFeb 25 21:55
schestowitzOKFeb 25 22:32
schestowitzI did it for a while, but no ejaculation :-)Feb 25 22:32
MinceR:)Feb 25 22:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7DJXL-a7w4Feb 26 12:22
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bpRpXArU3gFeb 26 12:55
schestowitz*LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp-vkPlN7Tc&feature=relatedFeb 26 13:39
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schestowitzMandy accused of screwing small bizFeb 26 21:39
schestowitzWeb design and consultancy firms have reacted with outrage to Lord Mandelson's latest attempt to get more British small businesses online.Feb 26 21:39
schestowitzThe launch of "Getting British Business Online" saw Mandy promise to get 100,000 British small and medium enterprises online for the first time by the end of 2010.Feb 26 21:39
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/26/small_biz_google/Feb 26 21:39
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/23238095 "@schestowitz that entirely depends upon the contet and volume. I mostly listen to spoken word, not death metal"Feb 27 12:19
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schestowitz> hello royFeb 28 01:10
schestowitz>Feb 28 01:10
schestowitz> sometime back, you had provided a link to an external site which listed all the abuse that mono advocates had directed at the gnote developer, hubert figueire.Feb 28 01:10
schestowitz>Feb 28 01:10
schestowitz> do you have that link at hand? try as i can, i've not been able locate it again on your site.Feb 28 01:10
schestowitzJason at Mono-nono has some posts on the issue, but I cannot think of a single page about /all/ the abuse they gave him. Tony saw it in the gnote IRC channel too, IIRC.Feb 28 01:10
schestowitzCan you help me out here?Feb 28 01:10
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schestowitzWe have about 12k pages now.Feb 28 19:37
schestowitz[20:16] <sebsebseb> Do you know how to stop IRC spam bots by any chance?  another network I am on is being attacked at the moment, one of the channelsFeb 28 20:17
schestowitz[20:16] <schestowitz> I don't know howFeb 28 20:17
MinceRthere are ways to hamper themFeb 28 20:17
MinceRone is setting the channel to only allow registered users to joinFeb 28 20:18
MinceR(in NickServ)Feb 28 20:18
MinceRanother is loading a spamfilter module into the ircdFeb 28 20:18
MinceR(it can inhibit known spam messages and kline/gline/... the offender automatically)Feb 28 20:18
MinceRif it's a flood attack, you can set the channel +mi (or the equivalent that only applies to unregistered users)Feb 28 20:19
MinceRand then kick[/ban] the botsFeb 28 20:19
MinceRand tell the ircops about them so they can kline/gline/gzline themFeb 28 20:19
MinceRand possibly submit them to droneblFeb 28 20:19
MinceRalso, the ircd-s can use droneblFeb 28 20:19
schestowitzthanks, I'll tell himFeb 28 20:29
schestowitzFeb 28 20:31
schestowitz[20:29] <sebsebseb> what's dronebl?Feb 28 20:31
schestowitz[20:30] <sebsebseb> i'll copy this stuff to the personFeb 28 20:31
schestowitzcool, thanksFeb 28 20:31
schestowitzFeb 28 20:37
schestowitz[20:37] <sebsebseb> thanks I guess and to mincerFeb 28 20:37
MinceRnpFeb 28 20:39
schestowitzFunny pic: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/22/harlem-vs-the-drones.htmlFeb 28 22:22
MinceRthe problem isn't the drones, it's where they're pointed :>Feb 28 22:24
schestowitzor the missilesFeb 28 22:25
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/24/saddam-husseins-priv.htmlFeb 28 22:29
schestowitzI sometimes wonder if people like Nixen deserve to be hanged for the same crimes or worseFeb 28 22:29
schestowitzEwwwwwwwww....... http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/25/cash-graffiti.htmlFeb 28 22:31
MinceRlolFeb 28 22:33
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schestowitzThis guy's cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqNsrohqSbIFeb 28 23:32

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