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| fewa | hmm oiaohm where is that 12VDC ATX power supply link> | Dec 01 07:19 |
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| fewa | i forgot what the cost was | Dec 01 07:19 |
| oiaohm | I would have to dig it up again. There are quite a few different supplies of the fewa. Mostly find able if you search for a 24 volt or a 36 volt atx powersupply ie different voltages of solar. | Dec 01 07:45 |
| fewa | dang http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-90 | Dec 01 07:46 |
| fewa | its tiny | Dec 01 07:46 |
| fewa | needs a 12V regulator however | Dec 01 07:50 |
| fewa | as 3.3X4=13.2 | Dec 01 07:55 |
| fewa | and it says it shuts off at 13-13.5V | Dec 01 07:55 |
| fewa | maybe li-ion 3.8X3=11.6 | Dec 01 07:56 |
| oiaohm | There is a lot of them. Most people don't dream how many different powersuplies exist. | Dec 01 08:11 |
| fewa | also this http://www.mini-box.com/DCDC-USB | Dec 01 08:17 |
| fewa | 6-34V --> 5-24V | Dec 01 08:17 |
| fewa | this is cheap http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.301/.f | Dec 01 08:17 |
| fewa | but requires regulated 12V | Dec 01 08:18 |
| oiaohm | Of course fewa | Dec 01 08:34 |
| oiaohm | regulated requires a less complex curuit | Dec 01 08:35 |
| fewa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3_CYdYDDpk | Dec 01 09:32 |
| schestowitz | [10:26] <[Rui]> hi, this is Rui from Portugal. are you awake? | Dec 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | [10:26] <schestowitz> Hey | Dec 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <[Rui]> did you see my Bring Out The GIMP petition? | Dec 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <[Rui]> http://www.petitiononline.com/botgimp/petition.html | Dec 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <schestowitz> cool! | Dec 01 10:29 |
| schestowitz | [10:29] <[Rui]> yeah! | Dec 01 10:30 |
| schestowitz | [10:29] <[Rui]> unless it keeps with 14 subscribers :) | Dec 01 10:30 |
| schestowitz | [10:30] <schestowitz> I'll mention it | Dec 01 10:30 |
| trmanco | 12:47:55 up 6 days, 10:24, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.21, 0.11 | Dec 01 12:52 |
| trmanco | still rolling | Dec 01 12:52 |
| trmanco | I know it's nothing special... but it's a record for this machine... LOL | Dec 01 12:52 |
| oiaohm | http://www.intel.com/healthcare/reader/ Interesting but completely useless with my form of dyslexia. I can read fine. Writing is hell. | Dec 01 13:06 |
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| schestowitz | Hi Roy, | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Although OpenLogic provides support (backed by community developers | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | and partners) on 500+ open source projects, it has never offered | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | support for any OS including Linux. | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Today, that is changing, as OpenLogic is adding support for community | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | versions of Linux, starting with CentOS. This comes as a direct | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | request from some of OpenLogic's customers - who are using CentOS more | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | frequently and wanted SLA support for it. | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | You can read today's press release here: | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Openlogic-1083679.html | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Also, Kim Weins, senior vice president of products and marketing | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | blogged a QA here: | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.openlogic.com/blogs/2009/12/openlogic-now-supporting-centos/ | Dec 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | If you have any questions, please let us know. | Dec 01 14:32 |
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| schestowitz | RMS Re: TiVo | Dec 01 21:18 |
| schestowitz | > I cannot take much joy in the defeat of one oppressor | Dec 01 21:19 |
| schestowitz | > if the form of oppression is still practiced. | Dec 01 21:19 |
| schestowitz | I corresponded with Torvalds regarding this issue. Like them, he just wants market share. | Dec 01 21:19 |
| schestowitz | More PR spam, thinking I care about Windows or having me in a spam list: | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > I just wanted to pass along news about the new CheckIt Diagnostics 8 | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > from Smith Micro, a diagnostic software for finding and fixing common PC | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > problems before they become failures. The newest version of CheckIt | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > Diagnostics brings full Windows 7 compatibility and enhanced features | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > that allow customers to diagnose and correct hard drive memory | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > corruption and many other PC issues. | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > Please let me know if you would like to check out a review unit of the | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > software or if I can help with any questions. | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > thanks! | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > Maggie | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > ............................ | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > Maggie Quale | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > FortyThree PR | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > 831.252.9491 | Dec 01 21:24 |
| schestowitz | > *Was there supposed to be an attachment with your message about the | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > Documentary?* | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > *In what city are they making the Documentary? Will it be Q & A or have | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > you prepared a presentation?* | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > *A long time ago, I spent a lot of time in Zurich and 1 day in Geneva* | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 22:49 |
| schestowitz | > *Who will see the results and is it for TV or the Internet or Hollywood? | Dec 01 22:50 |
| schestowitz | > Hahah.* | Dec 01 22:50 |
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| fewa- | http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.article&issue=soj0107&article=010722 | Dec 02 12:10 |
| fewa- | wait page 4 http://resources.mini-box.com/online/PWR-PW-200-V/PWR-PW-200-V-manual.pdf | Dec 02 12:27 |
| fewa- | does that mean it doesn't need a regulated 12V input? | Dec 02 12:27 |
| fewa- | the V-ins | Dec 02 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Kinda out of quota at moment. Does it give a voltage range of acceptable input fewa | Dec 02 12:53 |
| fewa- | it just says 12V | Dec 02 13:01 |
| fewa- | i emailed their support | Dec 02 13:01 |
| fewa- | so dont boher | Dec 02 13:01 |
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| fewa | http://www.freewebs.com/weamstherussians/index.htm | Dec 02 14:35 |
| schestowitz | fewa: UK firm announces battery breakthrough http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1564218/uk-firm-announces-battery-breakthrough | Dec 02 14:41 |
| fewa | that "article" doesn't say anything | Dec 02 14:42 |
| fewa | doesn't even say what the anode ide | Dec 02 14:42 |
| fewa | *is | Dec 02 14:42 |
| fewa | thats why i stay away from that sort of "news" | Dec 02 14:42 |
| schestowitz | INQ | Dec 02 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Just seen in news reaeer | Dec 02 14:42 |
| schestowitz | *Der | Dec 02 14:43 |
| fewa | *lack of inquiery | Dec 02 14:43 |
| fewa | The company has been working "in stealth mode" since it was formed in 2006. "We have been filing patents and we did not want to draw attention to ourselves until we had got them," McDonald said. | Dec 02 14:43 |
| fewa | aka, it will not be deployed | Dec 02 14:43 |
| fewa | same reason li-ion won over nimh | Dec 02 14:43 |
| fewa | too many patents on nimh | Dec 02 14:43 |
| fewa | current top of line is LiFePO4 | Dec 02 14:44 |
| fewa | something: http://www.nexeon.co.uk/technology/ | Dec 02 14:45 |
| fewa | damn 372 mAh/g seems pretty good | Dec 02 14:45 |
| fewa | still 3.7V? | Dec 02 14:45 |
| fewa | 3580 mAh/g + 372 mAh/g | Dec 02 14:46 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/15930042 "@schestowitz because I think the people that follow me are quite capable of coming up with their own rebuttals; I post just to let them know" | Dec 02 14:46 |
| fewa | damn | Dec 02 14:48 |
| fewa | could be something | Dec 02 14:48 |
| fewa | but really doesn't say enough | Dec 02 14:49 |
| fewa | like charge cycles | Dec 02 14:49 |
| fewa | power to weight ration (W/g) | Dec 02 14:49 |
| fewa | etc | Dec 02 14:49 |
| fewa | its really just a teaser press release | Dec 02 14:50 |
| fewa | doesn't even mention voltage | Dec 02 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Ah, OK | Dec 02 14:50 |
| fewa | site only says mAh/g | Dec 02 14:51 |
| fewa | but this could be misleading if voltage is lower | Dec 02 14:51 |
| fewa | idk, isn't that your field of study | Dec 02 14:52 |
| fewa | sort of | Dec 02 14:52 |
| fewa | inorganic chemistry + physics | Dec 02 14:52 |
| fewa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JxPCqAgQfs | Dec 02 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Saved for l8er | Dec 02 14:55 |
| fewa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EHlXoqq2DI | Dec 02 15:01 |
| schestowitz | BBC series (good): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ILa_4uhJkM&feature=related | Dec 02 15:05 |
| fewa | lol | Dec 02 15:08 |
| fewa | Costs+ | Dec 02 15:08 |
| schestowitz | watch it | Dec 02 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Grayson is in it | Dec 02 15:09 |
| fewa | yeah | Dec 02 15:09 |
| fewa | there is that Grayson | Dec 02 15:10 |
| fewa | hes got real creds | Dec 02 15:10 |
| schestowitz | I got to like his for the Bernanke [spell] thing | Dec 02 15:10 |
| schestowitz | His powwow is used to blast the Fed now | Dec 02 15:10 |
| schestowitz | "How much did you... who got the money....?" | Dec 02 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Ben: "I can't tell you" | Dec 02 15:11 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> hi | Dec 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> there is a conf now with tim berners lee bashing patents | Dec 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> it is linked on my twitter | Dec 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> could you manage to dump the stream? | Dec 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> it is some ms asx shit | Dec 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> are you on uk-parl@ffii.org? | Dec 02 15:18 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> I posted today some quotes | Dec 02 15:18 |
| fewa | schestowitz, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8EKGtf_YrY | Dec 02 15:20 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Dec 02 15:28 |
| schestowitz | I bookmark these, then watch in series later | Dec 02 15:28 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottgemsnbc.weebly.com/ The Blatant Promotion Of A Liberal Agenda - The Vile Attacks Against All That Is Right | Dec 02 20:05 |
| schestowitz | “G.E. also has a whole health care/medical product division known as G.E. Healthcare. Two of Barack Obama's top priorities as president are cap and trade legislation (essentially taxes on energy in which some of the revenue will be used for alternative energy) and health care reform (government controlled health care). ” | Dec 02 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Right wing is against a reform, eh? | Dec 02 20:05 |
| schestowitz | It figures | Dec 02 20:05 |
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| fewa | http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/J/U/french_knife2.jpg | Dec 03 17:54 |
| schestowitz | They're screwed | Dec 03 19:14 |
| schestowitz | > Well done Roy! Although I can't get Swiss TV :) And what are you saying | Dec 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | > about swine flu? | Dec 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | There is an area that I studied and published about, namely the Gartner Group. They have participated in fear mongering campaigns for profit and I have proof to show it (court documents and all). | Dec 03 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Wow. It doesn't stop. | Dec 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | > Hi again Roy | Dec 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | > I emailed you before Thanksgiving but didn't hear back, which is understandable with hectic holiday schedules, so I thought I'd try one more time. I'd like to inform you and the readers of Boycott Novell about how to protect patients and healthcare workers from the huge number of preventable infections people are catching in hospitals and other medical care facilities. | Dec 03 21:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | > I've created a useful site that you're welcome to check out and take any resources from you like: | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | > http://haiwatchnews.com | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | > That site is a summary of a bigger effort by Kimberly-Clark Healthcare called "Not on My Watch" which is aimed at eliminating completely preventable healthcare acquired infections like MRSA and ventilator-associated pneumonia. Complete information about the "Not on My Watch" campaign can be found at www.haiwatch.com. | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | > Please let me know if there are any questions I can answer for you. If you are able to post about this, I'd be grateful if you'd send me the link. | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Hi Barbara, | Dec 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | Would you be willing to point me at a news article I can share with readers? Just giving a domain name (homepage) would be less informative to some. | Dec 03 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | > The Gartner Group may feel some heat after the documentary, but who can | Dec 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | > actually take any action against these guys? | Dec 04 10:39 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%A9l%A9vision_Suisse_Romande | Dec 04 10:41 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> are you there? | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> I need to know what you have about Oracle and patents | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> I need to know what you have about Sun and patents | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> I am drafting a letter to them | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> they are under pressure by the Commission | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> so we need to trigger them on patents | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> please keep this confidential, do not mention it on your blog | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> please help to record the council meeting | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> there will be some questions about UPLS and swpats | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> http://video.consilium.europa.eu/index.php?pl=&sessionno=2625&lang=EN | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab> are you there? | Dec 04 12:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: can you help? | Dec 04 12:20 |
| MinceR | i don't remember anything about oracle and sun and patents | Dec 04 12:27 |
| MinceR | what does zoobab mean exactly about "triggering" them? | Dec 04 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Warn them | Dec 04 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Commission | Dec 04 12:49 |
| MinceR | that is very unspecific | Dec 04 12:52 |
| fewa | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512 | Dec 04 13:15 |
| fewa | the adolescent magazine God's Word For Teens!, there are many phenomena that cannot be explained by secular gravity alone, including such mysteries as how angels fly, how Jesus ascended into Heaven, and how Satan fell when cast out of Paradise. | Dec 04 13:16 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 04 13:17 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: which email? | Dec 04 14:57 |
| schestowitz | r @ schestowitz com | Dec 04 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Thanks! | Dec 04 15:02 |
| schestowitz | I'l attribute | Dec 04 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Dec 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | LSE at Open Mania..... | Dec 04 15:03 |
| trmanco | done | Dec 04 15:03 |
| trmanco | yes | Dec 04 15:03 |
| trmanco | I haven't written since then | Dec 04 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Dec 04 15:07 |
| trmanco | you're welcome | Dec 04 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | roy@baine:~$ uptime | Dec 04 15:59 |
| schestowitz | 15:25:19 up 58 days, 1:50, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.09, 0.10 | Dec 04 15:59 |
| trmanco | I had a powerloss | Dec 04 15:59 |
| trmanco | power loss/ | Dec 04 15:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/183711/microsoft_bing_suffers_outage.html | Dec 04 16:32 |
| fewa | god damn, when i disconnect i lost ops | Dec 04 17:54 |
| fewa | are there any good inkjets? | Dec 04 18:13 |
| fewa | ie open source non-DRM | Dec 04 18:14 |
| schestowitz | HP works well with Linux. Out of the box. | Dec 04 18:37 |
| fewa | but they put chips in the printers and cartraigers | Dec 04 18:41 |
| fewa | to make you dependant | Dec 04 18:41 |
| fewa | puchase $8000/oz ink | Dec 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 04 18:55 |
| schestowitz | Glad you posted this: | Dec 04 18:55 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/04/swedish-presidency-swpat-trade-agreement/ | Dec 04 18:55 |
| schestowitz | By the way, the same Lisbon treaty is also being used to do an end-run | Dec 04 18:55 |
| schestowitz | around the existence of most constitutions in regards to national | Dec 04 18:55 |
| schestowitz | representation within the EU. | Dec 04 18:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 04 18:55 |
| MinceR | has HP learned how to make printers that can pull in paper correctly? | Dec 04 19:26 |
| MinceR | the 2 HP printers i've used so far have both horribly failed at this task | Dec 04 19:26 |
| MinceR | as for working out of the box, any PostScript-capable printer should work out of the box, afaik | Dec 04 19:27 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Dec 04 19:29 |
| fewa | <schestowitz> By the way, the same Lisbon treaty is also being used to do an end-run | Dec 05 03:14 |
| fewa | <schestowitz> around the existence of most constitutions in regards to national | Dec 05 03:14 |
| fewa | <schestowitz> representation within the EU. | Dec 05 03:14 |
| fewa | no shit | Dec 05 03:14 |
| fewa | its an attempt to put a unrepresentative "senate" into the EU | Dec 05 03:14 |
| fewa | a big bow to James Madison | Dec 05 03:15 |
| fewa | argg I had a netbook being delivered today | Dec 05 03:15 |
| fewa | and the FedEx person couldn't just push the damn gate open | Dec 05 03:16 |
| fewa | the UPS people are not so inept :P | Dec 05 03:17 |
| schestowitz | It must be Intel chips..... | Dec 05 03:27 |
| schestowitz | Intel fAthom | Dec 05 03:27 |
| fewa | almost got one with AMD | Dec 05 03:30 |
| fewa | but read that it wasn't supported on Linux !!! | Dec 05 03:31 |
| fewa | the power saving of the rare chip | Dec 05 03:31 |
| fewa | didn't sell well and was discontinued | Dec 05 03:31 |
| schestowitz | Heh. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2009/12/05/harvey-and-anita-cheque/ | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > I intended to send the check to Scott because he gave me the program to be able to generate the project. Alphabetically his name is under yours in my address book and I inadvertently inserted your name the To: box. | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > In a postal mailing, I enclosed the check with a birthday card that I mailed you and now the surprise is lost and I would like to kick myself in the ass...but that's impossible. | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > Last week I got a book of checks in the mail from a credit card company, urging me to use the checks and of course they would be able to charge it to my account as a loan at some ridiculous credit card rate. | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > The idea came to me to create a check that would express my good wishes and be a bit humorous at the same time. | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > I used Photo Elements to erase some stuff and add some things in their place and then personalized it for you. I think it came out quite well, and you may use it in any way you like. | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | > In fact, as I said in my birthday card,...you may start drawing on the account immediately. | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | Haha! That's beautiful! | Dec 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | I could publish this in my blog, they said. | Dec 05 03:46 |
| MinceR | < adamkuj> are there any good open source tools for working with Access DB's (mdb files)? | Dec 05 16:29 |
| MinceR | <@Dopey> rm | Dec 05 16:29 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Dec 05 16:40 |
| schestowitz | dd | Dec 05 16:40 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > Well, I whipped up this short summary of the website, I hope it'll | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > give your readers an idea of the content of the site so they'll know | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > if it's of interest. What do you think? Feel free to modify it in any | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > way you see fit. | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > Don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > Again, thanks for your time, | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | > Barbara | Dec 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz | Thanks. I shall post this later. | Dec 07 01:37 |
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| MinceR | mutex alert | Dec 07 06:32 |
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| schestowitz | He never changes "real name" field | Dec 07 10:26 |
| MinceR | i thought you were talking about ViperChief | Dec 07 10:31 |
| schestowitz | Nope. | Dec 07 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/government/article.php/3851051 | Dec 08 12:19 |
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| schestowitz | Gartner is being slammed.... | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | > Splendid ! | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | > > | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | > > I'll tell you very soon if we prefer the 1st or the 2nd. | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | > > We started the shooting yesterday and will be filming all the week. | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | > > Next week (most likely wedenesday the 16th) i'll send you a few questions on issues i'd like to adress. | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Thanks a lot! | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Meanwhile, this item from the news you will probably find relevant: | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | *ZL files fresh libel complaint against Gartner* | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | "Software firm ZL Technologies has filed a new libel complaint against | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | IT researcher Gartner, after an earlier complaint was dismissed by a | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | court last month. | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | "The complaint, filed in a US district court in San Jose on Friday, | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | centres on Gartner’s classification of ZL as a “niche” vendor in its | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Magic Quadrant reports. | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | "District Court Judge Jeremy Fogel ruled in early November that | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Gartner’s reports consituted “non-actionable opinion” which could not be | Dec 09 14:06 |
| schestowitz | the basis of a libel suit, but ZL argues that Gartner presents its | Dec 09 14:07 |
| schestowitz | analysts’ opinions as being “based on a body of fact”." | Dec 09 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.research-live.com/zl-files-fresh-libel-complaint-against-gartner/4001682.article | Dec 09 14:07 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 10 21:23:25 2009 | ||
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Dec 10 21:23 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Dec 10 21:23 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz at Mon Mar 16 02:04:07 2009 | Dec 10 21:23 | |
| schestowitz | Re: Follow up on your OpenLogic article | Dec 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Dec 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > In your recent blog, you have raised a fair question: “do scanning tools | Dec 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > (like the one OpenLogic announced) make companies think they need to be | Dec 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > afraid of open source software?”. | Dec 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > I wanted to follow up with you and share a little more information about | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > OpenLogic and our business. I thought I could provide a little insight | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > on our perspective and motivations. | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > OpenLogic’s mission is to help companies successfully use free and open | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > source software. We provide a variety of support, training and | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > consulting services for free and open source software — so our goal is | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > to reduce fears about free and open source software, not increase them. | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > We also provide a set of governance products and services that help | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > companies fully understand what open source they are using and ensure | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > they are complying with the relevant licenses. | Dec 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > Obviously, it’s still true that some companies are fearful of using open | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > source software or using particular open source licenses. Our policy | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > and consulting services help provide education and guidance so that they | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > can overcome those fears and realize the value that they can get from | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > both using open source and participating in open source communities. | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > Although it seems that companies should not require a scanning tool to | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > know what open source software they are using, the reality is that the | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > ubiquity of free software and the existence of multiple licenses and | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > nested projects within a single open source project can make it | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > reasonably difficult to accurately track the open source used and all of | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > the applicable open source licenses. Our tool provides companies that | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > they do have a complete list of all of the FOSS, all of the FOSS | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > licenses and all of the associated license obligations so they can be | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > assured that they are in compliance. | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > Hopefully that helps provide a little more information about OpenLogic. | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > Please feel free to contact me if you’d like to discuss any of this in | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > more detail. | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | > Kim | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, Kim! :-) | Dec 10 21:47 |
| schestowitz | I don't mean to cause trouble, but I do try to realise and share the risks that we face and how they can be overcome. I know that OpenLogic intends to do the right thing. I've seen what happens when business models are misused and turned against peers, for profit. | Dec 10 21:48 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks Roy | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | > I totally understand. And when we fail in "trying to do the right thing", | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | > people should call attention to the issues, so keep up the good work :-) | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | > Kim | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Hey, good news.. my nephew might be called after me :-) | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | I just spoke to my mother for a long time... | Dec 11 00:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAF2NuAI9EU&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Dec 11 01:29 |
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| schestowitz | > Agreed, I'd rather see them in their proper place than in cola, although | Dec 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | > I've not been in cola myself for some time... | Dec 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I'll give you an update. Roy is doing his usual good work, flatfish has gone back to his thousand vulgar nyms, Hadron is nasty as usual, DFS is gone for now. Linonut still feeds them and gets beat up for it. | Dec 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | ^^QUOTE from a mater | Dec 11 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Re: SCO uses Groklaw for research | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > "the next most interesting detail is that they read Groklaw. You'll | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > find us on page 29 of Exhibit A, the entry for October 21 and 22" | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > Oct 21 09 Review GROK LAW | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > Oct 22 09 Research comments on GROK LAW and new article regarding | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > developments in SCO. | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091210100602130 | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > ------- | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | > I posted this on slashdot but it totally disappeared off the firehose .. | Dec 11 15:51 |
| schestowitz | [19:12] <TaQ> roy, are you there? | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:12] <schestowitz> yes | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:12] <TaQ> are you aware on what's happening now on the GNOME foundation list? | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:13] <schestowitz> no | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:13] <TaQ> http://twitter.com/taq/status/6572868876 | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:13] <TaQ> check this out | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:13] <TaQ> they are trying to vote to remove the G from GNOME | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:14] <schestowitz> hold on... | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:14] <TaQ> Lefty: 'GNOME is not connected with the anti-VMWare movement, nor (that I'm aware | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:14] <TaQ> of) any "anti-proprietary software" movement." | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:15] <TaQ> Philip Van Hoof: The way I see it is that most members want GNOME to stay out of that | Dec 11 19:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:15] <TaQ> philosophic discussion. Although GNOME usually advises to "work | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:15] <TaQ> upstream" and to "do things opensource when possible, as much as | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:15] <TaQ> possible". This is just a personal point of view, of course. | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:17] <TaQ> Philip van Hoof: I propose to have a vote on GNOME's membership to the GNU project. | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:17] <TaQ> that's why I'm wondering about the G ;-) | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:18] <TaQ> here it is http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00054.html | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:18] <TaQ> ok, now I gave you a lot of ammo :-) | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:19] <schestowitz> hold on... | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:19] <schestowitz> I'm reading | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:19] <TaQ> of course RMS is involved | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:19] <TaQ> and of course there are people angry with him | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <TaQ> specially "lefty" | Dec 11 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> It's been interesting watching, though, how utterly uninterested the | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | >> world is in windows. The vista launch was probably embarassing, but the | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | >> windows 7 launch was a total non-event. I did ask around people I know | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | >> whether they knew that there'd been a launch, they looked at me more | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | >> than a little confused. MS are clearly looking at other lock-in | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | >> opportunities. | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > I'll give Microsoft this much---they aren't the only ones trying to lock | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > customers in, rather than deliver a quality product. SJVN has an | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > article on wireless standards, explaining how hard it has been to | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > develop acceptable standards because every company wants to insert | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > little "features" to force customers to buy their product...and PJ on | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > Groklaw has linked an article about extra instructions that Intel and | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > AMD put into the x86 processors to try to force people to buy only their | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > version, much to the detriment of the consistency of the instruction | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz | > set. Ugh. | Dec 11 19:47 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | [19:55] <TaQ> well, seems you guys are having some fun, need to fix some software here, see ya later :-) | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > This is precisely the approach the vendors took when I was a Rapporteur, and it used to drive me around the bend, as they'd try to get their proprietary hooks into the standards, so that they could be the vendor with the "standard"; the UN finally caved and allowed patents into standards - I left. | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > I'm a supporter of capitalism, but that's not capitalism. It's, at best, abuse of the legal and standards processes, which exist for pretty much the opposite purpose. | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft are not really unique in this, they weren't the first, and surely won't be the last, but they have been one of the most vicious and single-minded in their pursuit of monopoly. | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > I'm wondering whether it could be possible to create a challenging and | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > playable game, like monopoly, but based around a sharing for rapid | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > growth model, rather than own-everything for monopoly. If more kids | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > grew up playing such a game, then we might see a different approach. | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > Interestingly, most of the team games from the British Isles benefit | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > from maximal cooperation; if you get chance, listen to the R4 today | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > programme from today to the chap in Afganistan describing a local game | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > and how it's played, and contrasting it with Cricket and (Association) | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > Football. They don't play Rugby, I think :-) It says much about the | Dec 11 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > culture of Afganistan. | Dec 11 19:57 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz at Mon Mar 16 02:04:07 2009 | Dec 11 20:25 | |
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| schestowitz | > Could you touch this up so that it's not making it look like Mono is | Dec 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz | > part of anything? | Dec 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz | > http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/12/gnome-and-gnu/ | Dec 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz | > Mono is a nasty form of advertising. You might want to retouch Java, | Dec 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz | > Perl or Python into it. | Dec 12 21:46 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather do it in future posts. | Dec 12 21:46 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: we have a new troll | Dec 12 22:16 |
| MinceR | suggested: /kb Leroy YES REALLY!! | Dec 12 22:20 |
| MinceR | ;) | Dec 12 22:20 |
| trmanco | kb? | Dec 12 22:21 |
| trmanco | killbin? | Dec 12 22:21 |
| MinceR | kickban | Dec 12 22:21 |
| trmanco | oh | Dec 12 22:21 |
| trmanco | that would be neat | Dec 12 22:21 |
| trmanco | ping schestowitz | Dec 12 22:21 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: you really need to add ops to the chanserv list | Dec 12 22:26 |
| trmanco | or where ever it is | Dec 12 22:26 |
| trmanco | [Notice] -ChanServ- Syntax: ACCESS <#channel> ADD|DEL|LIST [nick] [level] | Dec 12 22:27 |
| trmanco | I think it's this | Dec 12 22:27 |
| MinceR | i think this one has FLAGS instead of ACCESS | Dec 12 22:34 |
| MinceR | 232917 [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Syntax: FLAGS <#channel> [nickname|hostmask template] | Dec 12 22:34 |
| MinceR | 232917 [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Syntax: FLAGS <#channel> [nickname|hostmask flag_changes] | Dec 12 22:34 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: ping | Dec 12 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Dec 12 22:47 |
| MinceR | we've got a troll | Dec 12 22:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm catching up | Dec 12 22:49 |
| MinceR | hm, there's access too | Dec 12 22:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I do the post you asked for... | Dec 12 22:53 |
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| MinceR | :) | Dec 12 22:54 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: the troll is still around | Dec 12 23:12 |
| MinceR | why not ban *!?=god@*.dhcp.bluecom.no ? | Dec 12 23:53 |
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| schestowitz | I might need more USENET fallbacks | Dec 13 19:47 |
| schestowitz | "Then it occurred to me that maybe we miscommunicated. I can already get access to past messages, which are stored locally on KNode. I thought LEAFNODE would enable sending messags directly from my machines to key USENET servers. Manchester University officially closed down USENET access in July 2007 (for everyone)." | Dec 13 19:47 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: do you use Google Groups? | Dec 13 19:48 |
| trmanco | no | Dec 13 19:48 |
| trmanco | not really | Dec 13 19:48 |
| schestowitz | tony, I've added you to skype | Dec 13 20:10 |
| schestowitz | we can chat some time later | Dec 13 20:10 |
| trmanco | yeah | Dec 13 20:11 |
| trmanco | I've just accepted the invite | Dec 13 20:11 |
| trmanco | :) | Dec 13 20:11 |
| trmanco | sure :) | Dec 13 20:11 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: I wouldn't imagine you using Skype... | Dec 13 23:47 |
| trmanco | really... :-P | Dec 13 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Family uses it, so I had no choice. I resisted it for several years | Dec 14 00:09 |
| trmanco | hmm | Dec 14 00:12 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: is that you? making me all those questions? | Dec 14 00:51 |
| trmanco | it was you, wasn't it? | Dec 14 02:17 |
| trmanco | ping schestowitz | Dec 14 02:17 |
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| schestowitz | Which questions? | Dec 14 12:36 |
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| trmanco | :| | Dec 14 15:16 |
| trmanco | http://www.avherald.com/h?article=41e7623d/0001&opt=0 | Dec 14 15:16 |
| trmanco | http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4229eab3&opt=0 | Dec 14 15:16 |
| trmanco | they had another one | Dec 14 15:16 |
| trmanco | in november | Dec 14 15:16 |
| trmanco | Sometimes I just hate airplanes | Dec 14 15:17 |
| schestowitz | So make it a one-way trip to CA and stay there safely | Dec 14 15:26 |
| trmanco | I am going one way | Dec 14 15:33 |
| trmanco | :| | Dec 14 15:33 |
| trmanco | I can choose between 2 companies, Sata and Air Transat... Air Transat smells better :-P | Dec 14 15:33 |
| trmanco | it's also based in Canada :-P | Dec 14 15:33 |
| trmanco | better go by sea :-P | Dec 14 15:35 |
| trmanco | I can swim :-P | Dec 14 15:35 |
| trmanco | I'm busy :| | Dec 14 22:09 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: ping | Dec 14 22:09 |
| trmanco | I'm on a call LOL | Dec 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz | OK | Dec 14 23:08 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: were you trying to call me? | Dec 14 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Too late now, I was doing links | Dec 14 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I can talk a the same time | Dec 14 23:12 |
| trmanco | ok | Dec 14 23:12 |
| MinceR | funny how DaemonFC derails the conversation into an anti-mexico rant when he realizes he has lost | Dec 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz | I know | Dec 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz | He's an arse | Dec 14 23:18 |
| trmanco | loool | Dec 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz | It's the red(neck) blood running though his veins mereckons... | Dec 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz | He carries a gun | Dec 14 23:19 |
| MinceR | really, i don't know why a usa-fan would even mention the Kyoto Protocol | Dec 14 23:20 |
| trmanco | they really follow it (irony) | Dec 14 23:27 |
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| trmanco | I just changed my hostname :D | Dec 14 23:56 |
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| trmanco | it's wonderful the way Linux can handle heavy disk i/o | Dec 15 13:37 |
| trmanco | :D | Dec 15 13:37 |
| trmanco | simply fantastic | Dec 15 13:37 |
| trmanco | I would have got a BSoD on Windows or some explorer.exe crash | Dec 15 13:38 |
| trmanco | 13:33:30 up 55 min, 2 users, load average: 4.75, 4.22, 3.16 | Dec 15 13:38 |
| MinceR | it isn't so much fun on USB but that's probably not Linux's fault :) | Dec 15 13:40 |
| trmanco | I have 1 usb disk | Dec 15 13:40 |
| trmanco | it's working hard | Dec 15 13:40 |
| MinceR | (can the USB host controller poll devices without the CPU explicitly telling it to?) | Dec 15 13:40 |
| trmanco | and then I have this internal one which is also working hard | Dec 15 13:40 |
| trmanco | then I have the system hard drive | Dec 15 13:40 |
| trmanco | dunno | Dec 15 13:41 |
| trmanco | 13:36:00 up 58 min, 2 users, load average: 5.61, 4.52, 3.40 | Dec 15 13:41 |
| trmanco | it is still going | Dec 15 13:41 |
| trmanco | 3.58 the 15 min load | Dec 15 13:46 |
| trmanco | 3.63 | Dec 15 13:46 |
| trmanco | 3.71 | Dec 15 13:46 |
| trmanco | :| | Dec 15 13:46 |
| trmanco | it's gonna explode my cpu :| | Dec 15 13:46 |
| trmanco | job done | Dec 15 13:47 |
| trmanco | lol | Dec 15 13:47 |
| trmanco | top - 13:48:46 up 1:11, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 1.54, 2.65 | Dec 15 13:54 |
| trmanco | :> | Dec 15 13:54 |
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| schestowitz | >> I was one of the first people to blog about the proposed GNU split | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | >> from Gnome and I was featured on Slashdot's front page. At the same | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | >> time I submitted to LXer and OSnews. LXer also featured my article. | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | >> BoycottNovell also featured my article. Why not OSNews? It was | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | >> completely ignored and not even mentioned even though I submitted it | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | >> DAYS ago. | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | > Your submission about this subject came in second (see image), after the one I actually used. This is policy: first come, first serve. This submission did not link to your article. | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | > The fact that we covered it later is because in cases like this I usually wait and see what GNOME developers themselves have to say on their blogs. Their input is a lot more valuable than mine. | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 15 17:38 |
| schestowitz | >> You also seemed to use it as an attack towards RMS, and linked David | Dec 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | >> Schlesinger's biased surveys. Any comment? | Dec 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | >>From your blog, it becomes clear you're on the other side of the fence. That's fine. The OSN article clearly separates the more or less chronological recount of the mailing list thread from my own utterly biased opinion on the matter. "BoycotNovell" is biased the other way | Dec 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > around in its article - did you email them too, asking them why they are attacking GNOME? | Dec 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | > Or has this nothing to do with being biased, but all with the fact that you simply don't agree with me? I'm fine either way, but please come out and say it, as it would make these matters easier to discuss :). We also have a comments section, which is the preferable place for discussion anyway. | Dec 15 17:39 |
| schestowitz | Bastard :-) | Dec 15 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: go vote http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566192/apple-messiah-finals-person-year | Dec 15 22:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 15 22:27 |
| schestowitz | He's just a kid................. ney! | Dec 15 22:27 |
| MinceR | :D | Dec 15 22:28 |
| schestowitz | Body clock link to heart disease http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8404097.stm | Dec 15 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-204447/ansi:international-standards-system-is-working-well | Dec 15 23:33 |
| trmanco | I'm like this again all of the sudden -> :'( | Dec 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | You got something near your mouth.. | Dec 15 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Wipe it :-) | Dec 15 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Dec 15 23:44 |
| schestowitz | It's a tear, I see... | Dec 15 23:44 |
| trmanco | It's not that easy to wipe away memories | Dec 15 23:45 |
| trmanco | good ones | Dec 15 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Reboot it | Dec 15 23:45 |
| schestowitz | RAM is volatile | Dec 15 23:45 |
| trmanco | but at the same time they are bad | Dec 15 23:45 |
| trmanco | I'm all about gigantic ROMs | Dec 15 23:46 |
| trmanco | no ram | Dec 15 23:46 |
| trmanco | just caches | Dec 15 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Meh. | Dec 15 23:46 |
| trmanco | but that it just to help me think and calculate coordinates for my movement | Dec 15 23:47 |
| trmanco | it was you wasn't it? they anonymous friend asking me questions | Dec 15 23:48 |
| schestowitz | no | Dec 15 23:49 |
| trmanco | it wasn't? | Dec 15 23:49 |
| schestowitz | No | Dec 15 23:50 |
| trmanco | hmmm | Dec 15 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I told you yesterday, I don't know what you're even talking about | Dec 15 23:50 |
| trmanco | wow | Dec 15 23:50 |
| trmanco | :S | Dec 15 23:50 |
| trmanco | then who was him/her :| | Dec 15 23:51 |
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| trmanco | oh boy | Dec 16 20:13 |
| trmanco | wtf stupid article | Dec 16 20:14 |
| trmanco | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34437233/ns/technology_and_science-science/ | Dec 16 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Rings true | Dec 16 20:24 |
| trmanco | geek like star trek? | Dec 16 20:31 |
| trmanco | geeks* | Dec 16 20:31 |
| trmanco | pff | Dec 16 20:31 |
| trmanco | memorize lines of it? | Dec 16 20:31 |
| trmanco | oh boy | Dec 16 20:31 |
| schestowitz | I didn't read into it | Dec 16 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Just the general theme | Dec 16 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | > You wrote: | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > My birthday's in 4 hours. | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > So...your watch is set to the clock in [Manc]. | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > Actually, no matter where in the world I was on my birthday, I too would | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > refer to the time in my birth city as to when to celebrate. | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > I even know the exact hour and minute as it appears on my birth certificate | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > with as does my footprint just after birth. It was November 20th, 1928, | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > 11:30 PM New York City. | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | The location of Earth is never the same though ;-p | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | My birthday shortly... | Dec 16 22:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/15/verari_restructure_sequel/ | Dec 16 22:19 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: do you have the enemy quote you pasted here some time ago? | Dec 16 22:56 |
| trmanco | "of you have enemies it mean you did something good in life"? I can't remember | Dec 16 22:57 |
| trmanco | if* | Dec 16 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | Google it | Dec 16 23:28 |
| schestowitz | Chruchill | Dec 16 23:28 |
| schestowitz | A friend mailed it to me | Dec 16 23:28 |
| trmanco | ok, thanks | Dec 16 23:29 |
| schestowitz | The netsplits are not just me, right? | Dec 16 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Just to be sure... | Dec 16 23:29 |
| trmanco | you are leaving the server | Dec 16 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Dec 16 23:30 |
| trmanco | they don't look like netsplits | Dec 16 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Jus me? | Dec 16 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Crap | Dec 16 23:30 |
| trmanco | [23:14] <-- schestowitz has left this server (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). | Dec 16 23:30 |
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| trmanco | [23:20] <-- schestowitz has left this server (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). | Dec 16 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | Dman | Dec 16 23:30 |
| trmanco | but they are netsplits | Dec 16 23:30 |
| trmanco | netsplits* | Dec 16 23:30 |
| trmanco | :S | Dec 16 23:30 |
| trmanco | lol | Dec 16 23:31 |
| trmanco | it's not just you | Dec 16 23:31 |
| trmanco | I'm connected to european servers | Dec 16 23:31 |
| trmanco | less lag | Dec 16 23:31 |
| trmanco | :D | Dec 16 23:31 |
| schestowitz | AHa | Dec 16 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Damn you!! | Dec 16 23:31 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 16 23:31 |
| trmanco | chat.eu.freenode.net | Dec 16 23:31 |
| trmanco | :-P | Dec 16 23:31 |
| schestowitz | You made me SOOOOOOOO confused | Dec 16 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Cause all my servers are like that | Dec 16 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Thought it was an ISP issue | Dec 16 23:32 |
| *trmanco goes crying back to his hole | Dec 16 23:32 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 16 23:32 |
| schestowitz | I'll phone you in a moment | Dec 16 23:32 |
| trmanco | gimme a sec | Dec 16 23:32 |
| schestowitz | When I get to doing links | Dec 16 23:32 |
| trmanco | gotta go use the WC | Dec 16 23:32 |
| trmanco | ok | Dec 16 23:32 |
| trmanco | I'll tell you when I'm back | Dec 16 23:32 |
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| trmanco | I'm back | Dec 16 23:42 |
| trmanco | Happy Birthday schestowitz (GMT) time | Dec 17 00:09 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: what is wrong? | Dec 17 00:26 |
| trmanco | I'm available | Dec 17 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | Bruce is not happy... | Dec 17 16:47 |
| schestowitz | > I don't mind if you disagree with me, but could you do me the favor of | Dec 17 16:47 |
| schestowitz | > disagreeing with what I actually say? | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > You write that "Bruce Byfield proceeds to suggesting | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > <http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Does-a-free-software-community-exist> | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > that a Free software community does not exist." In fact, if you would | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > actually read the article, my conclusion is that one does exist -- but | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > that it can be hard to define. I then suggest a way that it might be | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > properly defined. | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > I am talking, as should be obvious in context, of free software in the | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > broadest sense, as a community that includes both free software and open | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > source advocates. So your placement of my comment in an article about | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > attacks on GNU is also off-base. | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > Finally, you suggest that my mention of disliking proprietary software | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > has something to do with my suggestion months ago that such a dislilke | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > characterizes one group of people in the community. But, if you read | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > closely, I am not talking about my effort at taxonomy, but the | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > observable fact that such a dislike is seen as a defining characteristic | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > by outsiders. For this reason, your comment is irrelevant. | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > Perhaps you would be good enough to make some corrections? I am sure | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > that you can find reasons to disagree with me, but not here. | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > BTW, I find it ironic that Hans Bezemer attacks me for suggesting that | Dec 17 16:48 |
| schestowitz | > the community exists, and that you attack me for suggesting that it doesn't. | Dec 17 16:49 |
| trmanco | http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/366886/12ec3b50b07e87bc/ | Dec 17 18:50 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Dec 17 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Can you talk in an hour? | Dec 17 19:01 |
| trmanco | yes | Dec 17 19:30 |
| trmanco | just got off a call | Dec 17 19:30 |
| trmanco | gimme a sec | Dec 17 19:51 |
| trmanco | I got a leak :| | Dec 17 19:51 |
| trmanco | skype is strange :| | Dec 17 19:54 |
| trmanco | wtf | Dec 17 19:55 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: I can see you in my logs that you have called me, but nothing appears to answer :| | Dec 17 19:56 |
| trmanco | it's always going to voice mail :| | Dec 17 20:37 |
| schestowitz | we'll try in the weekend | Dec 17 21:21 |
| trmanco | ok | Dec 17 21:21 |
| schestowitz | Talk about Raquelle [spelling] | Dec 17 21:21 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to someone else today | Dec 17 21:21 |
| trmanco | where here? | Dec 17 21:26 |
| schestowitz | No | Dec 17 21:39 |
| trmanco | gimme a moment | Dec 17 21:41 |
| trmanco | I'm going to talk to her in a while | Dec 17 21:41 |
| schestowitz | My uncle: | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > The environment problem will be resolved before it becomes a worldwide | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > disaster...but Nukes, that's scary! | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > The more countries that develop the power, the more likely we are to have a | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > nuclear war, which will make the holocaust seem trivial by comparison of | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > death count standards. | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > Are you familiar with the product, GERITOL? | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > It's a cure all for all that ails you, it makes you feel full of vim and | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > vigor and makes one feel like he has drunk the waters from the Fountain of | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > Youth. | Dec 18 03:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 03:23 |
| schestowitz | > Naturally, it's a fake and "drunk" is the key word because it contains 12% | Dec 18 03:23 |
| schestowitz | > alcohol. | Dec 18 03:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 03:23 |
| schestowitz | > It was immensely popular many years ago, and I believe it is still being | Dec 18 03:23 |
| schestowitz | > sold today. | Dec 18 03:23 |
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| schestowitz | Seems like it'll be over in a few days.... | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | > Just to let you know, we have had a response from [x] -- Jim | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | > needs to thrash a few things out with him, but if lucky they should | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | > agree on a response to new data etc by christmas. | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | > Seems it took a flight back from Aus for Dave to get round to it -- | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | > nothing else to do I suppose, let's hope he wasn't too jet-lagged! | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | That sounds good. I can't believe it took so long. | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | I started writing my thesis after 2.5 years (March 2006), submitted by the deadline, then waited 8 months for viva, did corrections by the deadline... :-) | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Thanks a lot, [x]! | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Been 6 years of me here... and I only did about 2-3 years of real work :-) | Dec 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz | When it's all done I'll need to move on... | Dec 18 13:37 |
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| trmanco | I just woke up | Dec 18 14:18 |
| trmanco | lol | Dec 18 14:18 |
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| trmanco | we can talk later if you have some time schestowitz | Dec 18 16:55 |
| schestowitz | http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.linux-sucks/browse_thread/thread/928db37c3da4f0ed/b857e7afe98079b0 | Dec 18 17:07 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, after reading Flatfish's spiel below, yes, he is a piece of work. | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | > Below is a seed to subterfuge Flatfish who was doing the seeding. It | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | > was no mistake, the specific language and methodologies that so | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | > characterised a Flatfish post. He is lying about not posting since | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | > 11/16/09. He used AIOE and Eternal-September (Motzarella) to do his | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | > dirty work. AIOE header, NNTP-Posting-Host was the tipoff that it was | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | > him, along with his homophobic libel and ad hominem verbiage. However, | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | > this is nothing new from such a habitual, prolific liar. | Dec 18 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Also: | Dec 18 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > Flatfish always reveals a lot about himself in his posts. I think he | Dec 18 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > can't help it, it is part of his personality. "truly sick, deceptive, | Dec 18 17:09 |
| schestowitz | > lying, mentally ill scumbag" of course refers refers to himself. | Dec 18 17:09 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: CAN YOU CHAT LATER? | Dec 18 19:16 |
| trmanco | oops | Dec 18 19:16 |
| trmanco | :/ | Dec 18 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | In 4-5 hours maybe | Dec 18 19:43 |
| trmanco | ok | Dec 18 19:50 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: when your ready :-P | Dec 18 22:57 |
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| trmanco | hey roy | Dec 18 23:17 |
| trmanco | hey schestowitz nice SEO -> http://www.google.com/search?q=kde+4.4+videos&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a | Dec 18 23:17 |
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| fewa | http://thecontraryfarmer.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/culture-wars-between-farmers/ | Dec 19 12:35 |
| fewa | http://rt.com/Russia_Now/Russian_Women_Guide.html | Dec 19 14:33 |
| fewa | russia today tends to be pretty good | Dec 19 14:33 |
| fewa | doesn't have the long tradition of western bullshit | Dec 19 14:34 |
| fewa | the woman that wrote it is very read | Dec 19 14:38 |
| fewa | *well read | Dec 19 14:38 |
| fewa | and needs to make that known | Dec 19 14:38 |
| fewa | o shiiii | Dec 19 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Some journos get assassinated there | Dec 19 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Others hounded for "piracy" and jailed | Dec 19 14:43 |
| schestowitz | But they have less debt, lots of gas, maybe a rising power in the future | Dec 19 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Greece, Turkey, Portugal were superpowers... makes you wonder how fast things change | Dec 19 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Even tiny Britian | Dec 19 14:44 |
| schestowitz | *Britian | Dec 19 14:44 |
| schestowitz | *>Britain | Dec 19 14:44 |
| fewa | sail | Dec 19 14:45 |
| fewa | sail is coming back | Dec 19 14:45 |
| fewa | http://www.energybulletin.net/node/19396 | Dec 19 14:45 |
| fewa | that was the basis of portugal and greece as wel | Dec 19 14:50 |
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| schestowitz | GNOME ponders its code of conduct | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Posted Dec 17, 2009 1:26 UTC (Thu) by BrucePerens (subscriber, #2510) [Link] | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Isn't this just about Lefty's anti-RMS jihad? | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | GNOME ponders its code of conduct | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Posted Dec 17, 2009 8:21 UTC (Thu) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link] | Dec 19 19:52 |
| schestowitz | > Posted Dec 17, 2009 8:57 UTC (Thu) by *AlexHudson* (subscriber, #41828) | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > [Link <http://lwn.net/Articles/367060/>] | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > More fodder for his blog to complain about it: | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.boycott-boycottnovell.com/index.php/the-news/9... | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > <http://www.boycott-boycottnovell.com/index.php/the-news/93-richard-stallman-calls-for-planet-gnome-changes> | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > Notice he writes about it as if a bystander to the discussion. | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > Sad, really - rather than highlight the nonsense that well-known web | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > sites peddle about GNOME etc., he's instead joined their ranks on the | Dec 19 19:53 |
| schestowitz | > opposite side - just another #BoycottBoy. | Dec 19 19:54 |
| schestowitz | > Posted Dec 17, 2009 18:07 UTC (Thu) by *BrucePerens* (subscriber, | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > #2510) [Link <http://lwn.net/Articles/367127/> ] | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > I ran into Lefty at a community summit out here a while back, and | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > his emotional state was really high. He explained his beef with RMS | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > with a cry in his voice, I kid you not. When I was less than | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > sympathetic, he practically ran out of the room in tears. | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > Now, I am no stranger to getting emotional about things. But I've | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > learned that it doesn't generally help me win the argument. | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > He really needs to focus on ACCESS, which, IMO, is a sinking ship. | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | > RMS isn't the big problem in front of him. | Dec 19 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Ouch: | Dec 19 19:58 |
| schestowitz | > nice place to play a show, but I live in Woodstock, Illinois, now don't | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > I, Gramps? | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > you are starting to embarrass ACCESS... the tide is turning, nice that | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > you have your beloved Dildo Hut to fall back on, innit, Grampa? | Dec 19 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe I'm saying it, but I feel bad for this madman. Better not to feed him. | Dec 19 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > he is what is called a 'functional psychotic/sociopath', ted bundy was a | Dec 19 20:08 |
| schestowitz | > very similar character type... | Dec 19 20:08 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: up for a call? | Dec 20 01:22 |
| schestowitz | Too late for it now | Dec 20 01:23 |
| schestowitz | Just a few mins | Dec 20 01:23 |
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| fewa | schestowitz, you read this from earlier? http://thecontraryfarmer.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/culture-wars-between-farmers/ | Dec 20 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I'll write about it shortly | Dec 20 20:39 |
| fewa | not that linked to your blog | Dec 20 20:41 |
| fewa | /sit | Dec 20 20:42 |
| fewa | but i thought it important/interesting | Dec 20 20:42 |
| schestowitz | What do you mean? | Dec 20 20:57 |
| schestowitz | <fewa> not that linked to your blog | Dec 20 20:57 |
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| schestowitz | Ask him... | Dec 20 23:27 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: we can talk if you want | Dec 21 22:51 |
| trmanco | I'm available | Dec 21 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | in an hour? | Dec 22 01:18 |
| trmanco | maybe | Dec 22 01:23 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/12/is-firefox-35-the-most-popular.html http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566779/firefox-world-browser | Dec 22 01:28 |
| trmanco | we can talk | Dec 22 01:36 |
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| schestowitz | I've heard about many foreclosures in Miami and it worried me cause my uncle is in the housing business... | Dec 22 15:58 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: we can talk if you want | Dec 22 20:16 |
| schestowitz | Ohhh.;... I missed this discussion: http://crankyoldnutcase.blogspot.com/2009/12/planet-gnome-and-proprietary-software.html | Dec 22 23:14 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: ping | Dec 22 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Yo | Dec 22 23:41 |
| schestowitz | I'll finish soon... | Dec 22 23:42 |
| trmanco | kk | Dec 22 23:42 |
| schestowitz | kkk | Dec 22 23:46 |
| schestowitz | I don't have enough links yet | Dec 22 23:46 |
| trmanco | oh noes | Dec 22 23:47 |
| trmanco | Ku Klux Klan | Dec 22 23:47 |
| schestowitz | No | Dec 22 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Kleenex Kleenex Kleenex! | Dec 22 23:49 |
| trmanco | oh | Dec 22 23:50 |
| trmanco | got a flu? | Dec 22 23:50 |
| schestowitz | No. Not yet. | Dec 22 23:55 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: when do you wanna talk | Dec 23 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Now | Dec 23 01:31 |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 23 09:06:51 2009 | ||
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Dec 23 09:06 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Dec 23 09:06 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz at Mon Mar 16 02:04:07 2009 | Dec 23 09:06 | |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/23/fox-in-cybersecurity-czar-role/#comments | Dec 23 14:58 |
| schestowitz | I only noticed these comments now..... | Dec 23 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | something keeps hammering the server, maybe some spider, it's hard to say.. load average: 4.48, 8.04, 6.10 | Dec 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz | [17:31] <sebsebseb> hmm just checking, your not a bit annoyed at me over something now? | Dec 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz | [18:14] <schestowitz> no, just busy | Dec 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz | He's socially deficient...... :-// | Dec 23 18:14 |
| schestowitz |  | Dec 23 18:15 |
| schestowitz | [18:14] <sebsebseb> well I just ended up in an arguement about mono | Dec 23 18:15 |
| schestowitz | [18:14] <sebsebseb> and coding and such | Dec 23 18:15 |
| schestowitz | [18:14] <sebsebseb> in another channel | Dec 23 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > while he remains unexposed, he is enabled to continue his damage to Free | Dec 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > Software. an article could really finally embarrass ACCESS enough to | Dec 23 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > remove him from the position of authority they fund on the Gnome Foundation. | Dec 23 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | Haha | Dec 27 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > I'm kind of assuming you didn't read much of the article past the link "Comes vs Microsoft". I was digging through the past to show what Microsoft is capable of doing to ensure success of C#. I made it very | Dec 27 22:16 |
| schestowitz | > clear this was old documentation/plans. | Dec 27 22:16 |
| schestowitz | >If you would like to properly re-read it, I've bolded the parts you missed, just in case some other people fail at reading too. Reading comprehension is an essential skill in todays world. Perhaps you will think twice (or even once) | Dec 27 22:17 |
| schestowitz | before you write something that clearly shows your ignorance. | Dec 27 22:17 |
| schestowitz | > It's also not uncommon to analyze the past deeds of companies or organizations to try and predict their future. | Dec 27 22:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 27 22:17 |
| schestowitz | > By claiming this information is old and irrelevant. You are essentially downplaying the past to alter the current/future. | Dec 27 22:17 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 27 22:17 |
| schestowitz | > "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." - George Orwell | Dec 27 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | <zoobab_> hi | Dec 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> you should clip some parts of the STOA videa | Dec 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> video | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> notably the one with Commission saying there are no patent trolls in Europe | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> and make a link to this: | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> I cannot find the letter... | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> your friend Zuck in the video | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> http://i5.be/5Z | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> at the end of the second panel | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> you there? | Dec 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | <zoobab_> i need to find time to extract those videos | Dec 29 12:08 |
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| schestowitz | fewa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9S5EGNeM1M&feature=channel | Dec 29 13:56 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Dec 29 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Chomsky: "Obama bin Laden" Oops! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAI7ShBQEk | Dec 29 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | PJ didn't know about the EDGI stuff...... | Dec 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > Thank you very much for pointing me to your stuff. I haven't had a | Dec 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > minute due to the holiday to look at the text, but I definitely will. | Dec 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | > I'm absolutely stunned at what I am ready. Simply stunned. | Dec 29 19:59 |
| schestowitz | I thought you had seen it. Me and Wallclimber (she's ~60, from Arizona) did hundreds of docs... some made the press. | Dec 29 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > 1) Do you have any good, authoritative, recent links to Novell | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > eliminating its linux development mostly or entirely? | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Yes, hold on... | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Novell-openSUSE-Development-Ebbing | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/novell-cuts-suse-developers/109036 | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10288910-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/linuxkerneldevelopment.php | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Novell down sharply. | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Also: | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Companies_That_Lost_GNU/Linux_Focus_After_Microsoft_Deals | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > 2) Any recommendations for managing citations and links along with | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | > annotations is very welcome | Dec 30 21:30 |
| schestowitz | I use my postings with Google search to scan them | Dec 30 21:30 |
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| MinceR | Companies That Lost GNU/Linux Focus After Microsoft Deals <- Asus (Eee PC) | Dec 30 22:47 |
| MinceR | also, apparently Epic Games (UT3 for Linux missing, apparently after deeper xbox involvement) | Dec 30 22:48 |
| MinceR | there was some crap about id Software not releasing Rage for Linux, and then changing their minds, but i'm not so up-to-date about that | Dec 30 22:48 |
| MinceR | then again, these items might not really be about "losing a GNU/Linux focus" | Dec 30 22:50 |
| schestowitz | I'll add that | Dec 30 23:17 |
| schestowitz | OK, fixed. http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Companies_That_Lost_GNU/Linux_Focus_After_Microsoft_Deals | Dec 30 23:26 |
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| MinceR | s/Cbox/Xbox/ | Dec 30 23:28 |
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| schestowitz | ACK | Dec 30 23:29 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 30 23:30 |
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| schestowitz | In a video I found something interesting about building 9 (IIRC) | Dec 31 19:16 |
| schestowitz | They were captured on tape talking about it "exploding", but that's not WTC anyway. Weird. | Dec 31 19:16 |
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| MinceR | apparently there indeed is a demand from visitors to see the goals of BN summarized :> | Dec 31 22:37 |
| schestowitz | New: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Mission | Dec 31 23:10 |
| schestowitz | May contain typos | Dec 31 23:11 |
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