| _goblin | nothing much....appart from it being hardly long lived. | Apr 03 00:01 |
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| _goblin | infact diabolical apparently. | Apr 03 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Well, guess what? | Apr 03 00:01 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5790 | Apr 03 00:01 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Windows 7 battery fix available for LG notebooks and more Windows news bits | All about Microsoft | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 94.32 KB | Apr 03 00:02 |
| _goblin | Windows 7 no longer needs batteries? | Apr 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft previously denied any such problem existed | Apr 03 00:02 |
| _goblin | yep, thats the Microsoft way.....when theres nobody to blame, merely deny. | Apr 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=%22microsoft+denies%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Apr 03 00:02 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: "microsoft denies" - Google Search .::. Size~: 29.96 KB | Apr 03 00:02 |
| schestowitz | Watch how many Vista 7 hits | Apr 03 00:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2010/04/01/uk-broadband-provider-aaisp-drops-ipv4-completely.html | Apr 03 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Joke? | Apr 03 00:05 |
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| MinceR | date says yes | Apr 03 00:05 |
| schestowitz | "Some more April Fool's Day ISP news doing the rounds." | Apr 03 00:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: just seen headline | Apr 03 00:05 |
| *MinceR immediately suspected april's fool | Apr 03 00:05 | |
| MinceR | (or what it's called) | Apr 03 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Some pr0n freak is spreading FUD: http://www.thinkdigit.com/Features/Linux-is-a-doomed-operating-system-heres_4327.html | Apr 03 00:06 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Linux is a doomed operating system heres - Online Best Latest Linux is a doomed operating system heres Price Reviews | Features in India .::. Size~: 101.45 KB | Apr 03 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Watch the BS he talks about | Apr 03 00:06 |
| schestowitz | I smell a troll | Apr 03 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that too is a joke... me | Apr 03 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Maybe that too is a joke... me checks.. | Apr 03 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, it's a joke | Apr 03 00:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/the-linux-distillery/38031-linus-torvalds-joins-microsoft-next-gen-os-team-quits-linux | Apr 03 00:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/31/david-pogue-weighs-in-on-ipad-david-pogue-weighs-in-on-ipad/ "Do you use BitTorrent? Do you run Linux? Do you have more e-mail addresses than pants?") reiterates the standard complaints -- no Flash, not enough storage, no ports, too pricey. Then the 'for the rest of us' review proceeds to dismiss those considerations. He calls it "a new category of gadget" | Apr 03 00:10 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: David Pogue weighs in on iPad, David Pogue weighs in on iPad .::. Size~: 87.7 KB | Apr 03 00:10 |
| _goblin | lol.... | Apr 03 00:10 |
| _goblin | great stuff: | Apr 03 00:11 |
| _goblin | "While being a proponent of Linux -- and open source software in general -- there are some things about Linux which make me doubt its future as an operating system." | Apr 03 00:11 |
| _goblin | "I love Linux but........" | Apr 03 00:11 |
| _goblin | Mind you.....maybe the point of the article is to say: | Apr 03 00:12 |
| _goblin | "If you are a pervert you are well catered for with Windows" | Apr 03 00:12 |
| MinceR | click the petition :> | Apr 03 00:12 |
| _goblin | what a great advert for the platform. | Apr 03 00:12 |
| MinceR | +link | Apr 03 00:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I am seriously, seriously digging Evolution, and seriously digging the Ubuntu One contact sync. Happiness! #ubuntu #gnome | Apr 03 00:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The Windows 7 problem that never existed is finally fixed. http://tinyurl.com/yzrhh9e #microsoft #fud #windows #vista #xp #windows7 #fail | Apr 03 00:17 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: The Windows 7 problem that never existed is finally fixed. « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 28.3 KB | Apr 03 00:17 |
| schestowitz | What a stupid gimmick: http://www.pcworld.com/article/193119/waterproof_hard_drive_promises_to_save_your_files_from_the_elements.html | Apr 03 00:19 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Waterproof Hard Drive Promises to Save Your Files From the Elements - PCWorld .::. Size~: 73.13 KB | Apr 03 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Why would anyone use he hard drive around water? | Apr 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | it's not like a diving watch | Apr 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Can you imagine the marketing for such a thing? | Apr 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Some fit girl working around the house and then accidentally pouring a bucket on her PC | Apr 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | Then says, "oh, thank goodness I got the waterproof HDD" | Apr 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | If only the mobo was also waterproof... | Apr 03 00:21 |
| MinceR | it could be a waterproof laptop | Apr 03 00:26 |
| MinceR | except the connectors between the two aren't waterproof | Apr 03 00:26 |
| MinceR | still it could save them while transported | Apr 03 00:26 |
| MinceR | also, someone could carry an external hdd with himself | Apr 03 00:27 |
| MinceR | i do, though i also tend to carry a netbook :> | Apr 03 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Check out the comment here: http://www.techeye.net/software/linux-foundation-attacks-the-bbc | Apr 03 00:28 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Linux Foundation attacks the BBC | Software news | TechEye - All the technology news unfit for print .::. Size~: 16.39 KB | Apr 03 00:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: a friend of mine accidentally dunked his PMP in a water cup at the gym 2 weeks ago | Apr 03 00:29 |
| schestowitz | I never asked him if it worked later | Apr 03 00:29 |
| schestowitz | It was a very small music player | Apr 03 00:29 |
| MinceR | isn't the BBC paid for the content by taxpayers already? | Apr 03 00:29 |
| MinceR | what do they want DRM for? | Apr 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Many years ago I took a discman there | Apr 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Now I prefer talking to people | Apr 03 00:30 |
| MinceR | to strangers? | Apr 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: why carry data in the HHD? | Apr 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Local networks are fast | Apr 03 00:30 |
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| schestowitz | Hello, nitech | Apr 03 00:30 |
| nitech | hi | Apr 03 00:30 |
| MinceR | because one can't take a huge spool of UTP cable with himself to lay along his path | Apr 03 00:30 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: for Hollywood | Apr 03 00:30 |
| MinceR | what has BBC have to do with hollywood? | Apr 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Long story..... | Apr 03 00:31 |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20001628-264.html | Apr 03 00:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.mandriva.com/2010/04/02/mandriva-linux-2010-spring-beta-1-available/ | Apr 03 00:33 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Mandriva Linux 2010 Spring Beta 1 available « The Official Mandriva Blog .::. Size~: 9.97 KB | Apr 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | My brother still uses it | Apr 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | He also programs for Android now | Apr 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | Teleconferencing | Apr 03 00:33 |
| schestowitz | My sister uses OpenSUSE :-( | Apr 03 00:34 |
| schestowitz | GE focuses them to.... | Apr 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I don't know what distro to try next. Are you on kubuntu, MinceR? | Apr 03 00:35 |
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| MinceR | i am | Apr 03 00:37 |
| MinceR | waiting for the release of 10.04 so i can do my final testing | Apr 03 00:38 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=12562 | Apr 03 00:41 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Ed Roberts, MITS Altair creator dies, age 68 | Tech Broiler | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 84.96 KB | Apr 03 00:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/03/why-not-open-source-lion-tracking-collars-in-the-works/ | Apr 03 00:47 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Why Not? Open Source Lion-Tracking Collars In The Works | Gizmodo Australia .::. Size~: 25.57 KB | Apr 03 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: http://www.albawaba.com/en/countries/Kuwait/313588 | Apr 03 00:51 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: albawaba.com middle east news information::KuwaitNet & Redington Value underline importance of open source solutions .::. Size~: 44.48 KB | Apr 03 00:51 |
| tessier_ | http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/01/information-is-beautiful-military-spending <- Some interesting numbers related to the world's militaries and the US in particular | Apr 03 01:07 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Information is beautiful: war games |News |guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 173.75 KB | Apr 03 01:08 |
| tessier_ | Not BN related but related to some of the topics discussed in here occasionally | Apr 03 01:08 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: thanks, interesting, not new info to me :-) | Apr 03 01:15 |
| schestowitz | But currencies are an artificial thing | Apr 03 01:15 |
| schestowitz | Think how much labour and energy are spent making bombs to destroy things, only to rebuild them | Apr 03 01:15 |
| schestowitz | We have limited resources and the starved could be fed with these airplanes (transporting food, dropping food rather than shells) | Apr 03 01:16 |
| tessier_ | Those things are measured with currency, no? | Apr 03 01:16 |
| schestowitz | In Columbine they could have seed and medicine factories | Apr 03 01:16 |
| tessier_ | I agree with the food thing. | Apr 03 01:16 |
| tessier_ | Columbine? | Apr 03 01:16 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: yeah, currencies | Apr 03 01:17 |
| schestowitz | But we have this issue of energy conservation, food chain, water quality and pollution... | Apr 03 01:17 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: Columbine has that stereotype of bomb-making production lines | Apr 03 01:17 |
| schestowitz | I have some friends here who were in the British military | Apr 03 01:18 |
| schestowitz | They know people who went berserk after what they had experienced there. Not good at all... | Apr 03 01:18 |
| tessier_ | Is Columbine a place in the UK? I know it is a town in the US but I doubt that is what you arereferring to. | Apr 03 01:18 |
| schestowitz | I was thinking of Columbine, the Moore film | Apr 03 01:19 |
| schestowitz | He spoke about what industry was there, except the school shooting | Apr 03 01:19 |
| tessier_ | Ah, about the school thing. Ok. | Apr 03 01:19 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: BTW, I don't know for sure how Google wants site to move between domains | Apr 03 01:19 |
| tessier_ | I have never heard anything about the major products of the town. The town always seemed mundane and unimportant. | Apr 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | I want to check with you how simple it would be to redirect | Apr 03 01:20 |
| tessier_ | Good point. You don't want to lose your rankings. | Apr 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | And Google would probably not "like" it | Apr 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | I knew people who tried it and got trashed by Google | Apr 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: I think it's about passing the right code | Apr 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Like "permanent" | Apr 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Let me look it up | Apr 03 01:20 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=83106 | Apr 03 01:21 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Telling Google about your domain change - Webmaster Tools Help .::. Size~: 16.3 KB | Apr 03 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Ah, that's new | Apr 03 01:21 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: do you know how to make apache map each page in one domain onto another, with redirect set to permanent? | Apr 03 01:26 |
| tessier_ | Not off the top of my head but I bet I could look it up. | Apr 03 01:26 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Apr 03 01:34 |
| schestowitz | I'll check on Google how they do transfers too | Apr 03 01:35 |
| schestowitz | They have this tool for informing them when domains change | Apr 03 01:35 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @MADGEAustralia @GMWatch #Pfizer employee wins damages over genetically engineered 'AIDS-like' virus infection http://bit.ly/aMLvKx #gmo | Apr 03 01:39 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Python Knowledge Well: Acire - http://is.gd/bbUqm #acire #pythonsnippets | Apr 03 01:41 | |
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| schestowitz | Wow. Google offers reports for sites. Very details, with error detection too | Apr 03 01:42 |
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| schestowitz | tessier_: I got it :-) | Apr 03 01:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=83105 | Apr 03 01:52 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Moving your site - Webmaster Tools Help .::. Size~: 18.54 KB | Apr 03 01:52 |
| schestowitz | Just a 301 one-to-one between pages | Apr 03 01:52 |
| schestowitz | I can do the rest with the Google panel to inform of the change of domain so that it immediately points directly to the right domain | Apr 03 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Right now the domain respond to the requests in an identical fashion, just without warping old domain to new with "301" | Apr 03 01:53 |
| schestowitz | tessier_: more here: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=93633&hl=en | Apr 03 02:00 |
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| schestowitz | "To implement a 301 redirect for websites that are hosted on servers running Apache, you'll need access to your server's .htaccess file. (If you're not sure about your access or your server software, check with your webhoster.) For more information, consult the Apache .htaccess Tutorial and the Apache URL Rewriting Guide. If your site is hosted on a server running other software, check with your hoster for more details. " | Apr 03 02:01 |
| *schestowitz looks at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html | Apr 03 02:02 | |
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| schestowitz | tessier_: are you around? | Apr 03 02:20 |
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| schestowitz | gn | Apr 03 02:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @eikonos: Pope's preacher: anti-#pedophilia criticism like anti-Semitism //"if you're not with us, you're against us"? ...mind boggles | Apr 03 03:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | jono: My cousin tried to rip me off | Apr 03 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | I looked the car over | Apr 03 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | A list of things I found wrong with it involved a bad timing chain, a blown head gasket, a leaking oil pan gasket, a cracked windhield I already knew about, the AC compressor is shot, two completely bald tires, the muffler has broken loose, the axles are out of alignment, the passenger door has been kicked in leaving a grapefruit sized dent, the serpentine belt is worn and needs replaced, the coolant is bad and possibly eating th | Apr 03 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | entire cooling system, and the car is covered in scratches and dings from too many women drivers | Apr 03 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | it does have a hell of a nice radio and speaker system though | Apr 03 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | someone had priorities, and it was apparently sitting out in the front lawn in their broken down car listening to a $500 stereo system | Apr 03 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | which they hooked up wrong and shorted out the LED odometer display | Apr 03 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | I told her I'd take it for free seeing as how it was going to need work done equal to the fair market value of the car in good condition | Apr 03 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | she told me she wanted me to drive back to Marion with it | Apr 03 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | I told her that SHE can come pick that death trap up while she's here for Easter, because if it breaks down while I'm driving it, the entire family will start world war 3 with me | Apr 03 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's going to cost as much as the car is worth just putting a rebuilt engine in it, which is cheaper than replacing the head gasket and timing chain on the existing engine | Apr 03 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | head gasket can't just be replaced, it requires machine work on the engine block or you're going to blow another one | Apr 03 04:38 |
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| shreddar | Hey guys | Apr 03 05:22 |
| shreddar | Did everyone hear about GWT Quake II? | Apr 03 05:27 |
| shreddar | Now I can't wait until there's a Javascript NES emulator. | Apr 03 05:30 |
| shreddar | Oh wait there is one! | Apr 03 05:35 |
| shreddar | http://benfirshman.com/projects/jsnes/ | Apr 03 05:35 |
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| shreddar | Hope fully they'll solve that sound issue. I'm sure they could do fix it with the audio element (like they did with GWT Quake). | Apr 03 05:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] 'Nothing screams "get off my lawn" like a language controlled by #Oracle' #java #sad https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/03/0147255 | Apr 03 06:00 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | Apr 03 06:52 |
| Omar87 | Buenos dias/tardes all! | Apr 03 06:53 |
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| oiaohm | Really I know I should not. But I am currently considering building the max level in drm. USB stick with inbuilt cpu. Host machine ie windows linux.... Basically nothing more than a slave to draw pritty graphics. | Apr 03 07:05 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] I am glad I installed a #squid proxy cache to help cut 3G bandwidth use. Seems to help wife's #Farmville assets stay off the wire... | Apr 03 07:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @sscoop4 #Palin's #News Show a FLOP! I wonder Y? http://huff.to/aza52K // oooh I think I am experiencing #palinfreude | Apr 03 07:53 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Just a moment too late for #followfriday, but #cdnpoli folk go right ahead and @unseatharper @YukonGale | Apr 03 08:02 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Chase funds Geological Terrorism http://ur1.ca/t201 | Apr 03 08:08 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] As a reminder, if you violently protest against the government, you're just as bad as the Teabaggers who wish to destroy state sovereignty | Apr 03 08:13 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] This is how you non-violently protest, however removing Governers isn't the answer, increasing their power is http://ur1.ca/t20r | Apr 03 08:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Anybody want a #linotype Model 100, first #postscript imagesetter, for their museum of typesetting & printing? #melbourne #australia #adobe | Apr 03 08:59 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_15/b4173030234603.htm | Apr 03 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | Seems like ryan got a visit from the newegg PR police: http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/another-rant-grrrr-newegg-bad-actually-getting-a-refund-good/ | Apr 03 09:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.the-source.com/2010/04/songbird-drops-linux-support/ | Apr 03 09:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html#03%20April%202010%20%28India%20plans%20to%20take%20the%20fingerprints%20of%20everyone%20%29 | Apr 03 09:14 |
| schestowitz | "The government of India, in a tyrannical move, plans to take the fingerprints of everyone (except the Maoist rebels). " and Microsoft is behind these moves of ID management | Apr 03 09:14 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I am sorry to say fingerprint id used to keep voting clean was done by Australian forces in near by islands | Apr 03 09:41 |
| oiaohm | So India is not the first country to drop to it due to voting issues. | Apr 03 09:42 |
| oiaohm | Mine you the islands near us some have some strange beliefs that the dead releations should be able to vote for them. | Apr 03 09:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Your long-term goals are more important to you now and you wou... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11 | Apr 03 09:57 | |
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| schestowitz | I've just fixed the gravatar issue we had | Apr 03 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Hopefully today we'll move domains (when tessier_ wakes up) | Apr 03 10:08 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: who casts the vote for the dead? | Apr 03 10:09 |
| schestowitz | And what policies do the dead vote for? Graveyard management? | Apr 03 10:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] What so called floss podcasts do actually use floss tools for their recordings in their studio? | Apr 03 10:19 | |
| omar_ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8600493.stm | Apr 03 10:22 |
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| omar_ | schestowitz, so, was it really Altair-Basic or CP/M? | Apr 03 10:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @aondo Linux Basement? SFLS maybe, cause they use another studio (SFLC)? | Apr 03 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | omar_: Windows? | Apr 03 10:42 |
| schestowitz | Or DOS? | Apr 03 10:42 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz, as stated in a recent BBC article covering the death of the so-claimed "Father of PC", Dr Henry Edward Roberts, "The program was known as Altair-Basic, the foundation of Microsoft's business". | Apr 03 10:44 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, is that true? Or is it just another one of them big phat lies? | Apr 03 10:45 |
| Omar87 | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8600493.stm | Apr 03 10:46 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 85.82 KB | Apr 03 10:46 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: "foundation" as in "something to copy" | Apr 03 10:49 |
| schestowitz | Like Apple | Apr 03 10:49 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, or more accurately "Something to steal". | Apr 03 10:49 |
| schestowitz | Someone who claims to be Henry Edward Roberts' son has just commented in BN | Apr 03 10:49 |
| schestowitz | I say "Claims" | Apr 03 10:50 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, can you provide me with the link please? | Apr 03 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Cause he uses a Hotmail account | Apr 03 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Look at that post | Apr 03 10:50 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, sure he does. :-) | Apr 03 10:51 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, which one? | Apr 03 10:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.english.globalarabnetwork.com/201003315350/Technology/kuwaitnet-open-source-solutions-to-boost-performance-and-cost-effectiveness-among-business-community.html | Apr 03 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: there's just one | Apr 03 10:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “ISO is dead for software standards. Do you need an official funeral?” ~Benjamin Henrion, FFII | Apr 03 10:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.albawaba.com/en/countries/Kuwait/313588 | Apr 03 10:53 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: albawaba.com middle east news information::KuwaitNet & Redington Value underline importance of open source solutions .::. Size~: 44.48 KB | Apr 03 10:53 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, actually, I can see more than one. | Apr 03 10:53 |
| schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mozilla-Firefox-over-350-Million-Users-and-30-Market-Share-139016.shtml | Apr 03 10:54 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Mozilla: Firefox over 350 Million Users and 30% Market Share - Worldwide - Softpedia .::. Size~: 50.36 KB | Apr 03 10:54 |
| schestowitz | \0/ | Apr 03 10:54 |
| Omar87 | Oh | Apr 03 10:54 |
| Omar87 | Okay, found it. :) | Apr 03 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Some years back it was harder selling Linux cause many people thought IE=Internet | Apr 03 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Now it's easier | Apr 03 10:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “He [Bill Gates] acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was.”–Ed Roberts, Gates’ employer at MITS in the 1970’s (Atlanta Journal) | Apr 03 10:55 | |
| Diablo-D3 | heh | Apr 03 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Bill does have quite the ego | Apr 03 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | but I cant really blame him | Apr 03 10:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes just that kind of person | Apr 03 10:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “He [Bill Gates] acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was.” –Ed Roberts, Gates’ employer at MITS (Atlanta Journal) @hammadrajjoub | Apr 03 10:58 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “He [Bill Gates] acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was.” –Ed Roberts, Gates’ employer at MITS (Atlanta Journal) @mzayed | Apr 03 10:59 | |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonder if he realizes he can quote this to multiple people at the same time | Apr 03 11:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “He [Bill Gates] acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was.” –Ed Roberts, Gates’ employer at MITS (Atlanta Journal) @MSAdvertising | Apr 03 11:01 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “He [Bill Gates] acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was.” –Ed Roberts, Gates’ employer at MITS (Atlanta Journal) @Microsoft_Feed | Apr 03 11:02 | |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, totally true. | Apr 03 11:03 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] @schestowitz: yea i'm glad there are those that do, and i don't understand those that don't. | Apr 03 11:03 | |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, can I really quote to multiple people even though it will exceed the 140-character limit? | Apr 03 11:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/02/mozilla_no_flash_plans/ | Apr 03 11:05 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Mozilla: 'no plans' to bundle Flash with Firefox • The Register .::. Size~: 22.87 KB | Apr 03 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Google is being stupid | Apr 03 11:07 |
| schestowitz | They promote Flash | Apr 03 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Chrome is no longer FOSS | Apr 03 11:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I was playing R-Type on the Wii yesterday. Scary to think that I used to play it in arcades over 20 years ago. Still love it today. | Apr 03 11:08 | |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, RIP Chrome, long live Chromium. | Apr 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Google Chrome is *not* open source after the Flash inclusion. And I will list it along with Opera under the "proprietary" basket from now on. | Apr 03 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Chromium is like Chrome | Apr 03 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | Omar87: no, but you can use shorter quotes | Apr 03 11:10 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If #Chrome encourages people to be proprietary (which is now does), then I can no longer accept/endorse Chromium | Apr 03 11:11 | |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, I know. But I wanted to put some evidence to validate it (prove it's a true quote and not a fabricated one). | Apr 03 11:13 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, because you know, these MS Hypocrites will probably not believe it even if they hear it from Ed Roberts himself. | Apr 03 11:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,212940,00.html | Apr 03 11:15 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: US Navy Wants to Field Cyber-Attack System .::. Size~: 37.41 KB | Apr 03 11:15 |
| schestowitz | Laser wars | Apr 03 11:15 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=%E2%80%9CHe+acted+like+a+spoiled+kid%2C+which+is+what+he+was.%E2%80%9D&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= | Apr 03 11:16 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: “He acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was.” - Google Search .::. Size~: 19.62 KB | Apr 03 11:16 |
| schestowitz | I got it from a book | Apr 03 11:16 |
| schestowitz | From someone whose mother does Microsoft's PR | Apr 03 11:17 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, the guy who claimed to be Ed Robert's son, he's a big BIG phat liar, imho. | Apr 03 11:17 |
| schestowitz | "Excerpted from an Atlanta Journal Constitution newspaper article, 04/27/97." | Apr 03 11:17 |
| schestowitz | http://webpages.charter.net/dperr/mits.htm | Apr 03 11:17 |
| schestowitz | Ed's thoughts on: | Apr 03 11:18 |
| schestowitz | The computer revolution: | Apr 03 11:18 |
| schestowitz | "You'll read that Bill Gates envisioned it all, which is a crock. He didn't envision any of it. Nobody did." | Apr 03 11:18 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, these people won't take the time to look for the truth themselves. You have to spoon-feed it to them. | Apr 03 11:18 |
| schestowitz | Don't you wish you stuck with computers and became a billionaire like Bill Gates: | Apr 03 11:18 |
| schestowitz | "The implication in that question is, 'Do I wish I stayed and done something important?' But I feel that what I'm doing now is important," he says, "I serve a useful purpose." | Apr 03 11:18 |
| schestowitz | "Roberts took his share of the MITS sale and moved his family back to southern Georgia, his mother's native land. He planned to grow corn and soybeans but farming lost it's appeal "after about 10 or 15 seconds." In 1984, at age 42, he entered Mercer University's first class of medical students. It wasn't a new idea: As a teenager growing up in Miami he had worked as a scrub technician for heart surgeons at Jackson Memorial hospital. " | Apr 03 11:20 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, remember, when we are dealing with MS ppl, we are dealing with either zombies, vampires or MS kool-aide junkies. | Apr 03 11:20 |
| schestowitz | "Ed Roberts, creator of the first personal computer, left the "fast track" pace of the computer business for the challenges of being a small-town physician. At 55, he now practices medicine in a small south Georgia town, (pop. 4390) living with his wife, two Great Danes and a raft of IBM clones. " | Apr 03 11:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | Omar87: btw, I agree, it should be 1000 characters | Apr 03 11:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | not 140 | Apr 03 11:20 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, exactly. | Apr 03 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Breaking his silence: | Apr 03 11:21 |
| schestowitz | "Apple started claiming to have invented the personal computer and it pissed me off! " | Apr 03 11:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | but | Apr 03 11:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | didnt they? | Apr 03 11:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | IBM PC was rather late to the game there | Apr 03 11:21 |
| Omar87 | I really fail to understand how the hell did they come up with this particular number as a max character limit. | Apr 03 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | Omar87: twitter | Apr 03 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | the question is, where did twitter get it | Apr 03 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | I assume the average sentence length | Apr 03 11:22 |
| Omar87 | Why 140? Why not 150? Or 200? | Apr 03 11:22 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, true, | Apr 03 11:22 |
| Omar87 | Yeah, perhaps. | Apr 03 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, I would have at least rounded it up to the next 100 | Apr 03 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | so its a nice round number | Apr 03 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | who knows, I might clone identica some day | Apr 03 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | they have the intraserver shit | Apr 03 11:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | so I could always just copy that | Apr 03 11:26 |
| schestowitz | What is this, PR? http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9174539/Microsoft_runs_fuzzing_botnet_finds_1_800_Office_bugs | Apr 03 11:26 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Microsoft runs fuzzing botnet, finds 1,800 Office bugs .::. Size~: 121 KB | Apr 03 11:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, but I dont particularly like the outcome | Apr 03 11:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're running their own private @home on personal machines | Apr 03 11:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | without warning or permission | Apr 03 11:27 |
| schestowitz | How can I download my identica data? | Apr 03 11:27 |
| schestowitz | I did check this when I first joined | Apr 03 11:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: you cant | Apr 03 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Didn't find a way, made a feature request | Apr 03 11:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | not because they dont allow you | Apr 03 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: really? | Apr 03 11:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | they just never coded it in | Apr 03 11:27 |
| schestowitz | So what's the point of it being AGPL? | Apr 03 11:27 |
| schestowitz | No migration? | Apr 03 11:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | remember, it _is_ open source after all | Apr 03 11:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | go submit a patch | Apr 03 11:28 |
| schestowitz | It's a fundamental feature | Apr 03 11:28 |
| schestowitz | A company can't get its employees with their data off identica | Apr 03 11:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: thats not an issue | Apr 03 11:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can google identica anyhow | Apr 03 11:29 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 03 11:29 |
| schestowitz | It can vanish one day | Apr 03 11:29 |
| schestowitz | How do I download my 13,000+ comments in Digg? | Apr 03 11:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh sure, it can _vanish_ | Apr 03 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Or my submissions there | Apr 03 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Or site mail in various sites? | Apr 03 11:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: you really want me to succeed | Apr 03 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Just a whole 'cloud' nonsense | Apr 03 11:30 |
| schestowitz | It's a sucker | Apr 03 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Sucking data | Apr 03 11:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | I intend on using a centralized storage system for my stuff | Apr 03 11:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | and not get me wrong when I say centralized | Apr 03 11:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a multi-continent storage could | Apr 03 11:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, cloud | Apr 03 11:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just that all data of yours really does belong to you | Apr 03 11:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “He [Bill Gates] acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was.” –Ed Roberts, Gates’ employer at MITS (Atlanta Journal) @BillGates | Apr 03 11:31 | |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, okay, this is weird. Shouldn't we find at least one tweet from Bill Gates eulogizing his former employer? Well, guess what, we don't. | Apr 03 11:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Okay, this is weird. Shouldn't we find at least one tweet from @BillGates eulogizing his former employer? Well, guess what ppl, we don't... | Apr 03 11:35 | |
| Omar87 | Oh.. actually, there it is. | Apr 03 11:36 |
| Omar87 | That was my mistake. | Apr 03 11:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wasnt aware bill tweeted | Apr 03 11:40 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, He did. | Apr 03 11:41 |
| Omar87 | @BillGates | Apr 03 11:41 |
| Omar87 | Sometime I mention him in some quotes like those of Gary Killdall and others. | Apr 03 11:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont do the twitter thing, so | Apr 03 11:43 |
| *Diablo-D3 shrugs | Apr 03 11:43 | |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, why not | Apr 03 11:44 |
| Omar87 | ? | Apr 03 11:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "You'll read that Bill Gates envisioned it all, which is a crock. He didn't envision any of it. Nobody did." ~Ed Roberts. | Apr 03 11:48 | |
| Diablo-D3 | Omar87: because its just shit | Apr 03 11:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Upgrading a Viglen MPC-L from Ubuntu Karmic to Lucid (beta) to test it.Whilst ripping the only mini CD I own. Soul II Soul - "Keep on movin" | Apr 03 11:50 | |
| Diablo-D3 | its turned into livejournal and facebook and that shit | Apr 03 11:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yesterday I introduced my boss to byobu, dyndns, corkscrew, ssh port forwarding, and mythbuntu 10.04 | Apr 03 11:52 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Made a den in the lounge for the kids. 4 chairs, 3 blankets, cushions, pegs. Win! | Apr 03 11:53 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Falling back in love with my slow cooker. Might do some slow cooked lamb next weekend. Clare hates the smell of lamb cooking though. Loony. | Apr 03 11:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wife is as excited as me about Doctor Who tonight.Gonna let Sophie stay up even though she thinks she might be scared.Part of growing up :) | Apr 03 11:57 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyUs8F4m5bM | Apr 03 11:58 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- A Fair(y) Use Tale — Novell Explains COPYRIGHT protections. .::. Size~: 67.04 KB | Apr 03 11:58 |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 03 11:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Seen on irc "You must be insane if you choose Kubuntu over Ubuntu". :S Is that generally regarded or just the ramblings of a loony himself? | Apr 03 12:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Pro wrestling is really pretty jawdropping improv theatresports. Imagine practicing this one: http://i.imgur.com/LgZOl.gif | Apr 03 12:13 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Apr 03 12:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Has anyone made that Windows 7 like feature which snaps two windows tiled on the screen, but on Linux? | Apr 03 12:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Brother looking to move to this area. Opposite neighbours to us are putting house on the market.Might be weird living opposite family. | Apr 03 12:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] #rawstudio is getting close to a 2.0 with many improvements. Great tool for photographers - http://rawstudio.org/blog/ | Apr 03 12:26 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Blog .::. Size~: 18.58 KB | Apr 03 12:26 |
| Omar87 | Diablo-D3, I agree with you about Facebook. I stopped using it recently. It now uses Bong, plus it's one of the most disgusting inventions the human mind has ever made. | Apr 03 12:34 |
| *Diablo-D3 has never had a twitter or facebook or livejournal account | Apr 03 12:36 | |
| *MinceR misread Bong as "Borg" | Apr 03 12:36 | |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well, microsoft _is_ the borg after all | Apr 03 12:36 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 03 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Borng | Apr 03 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Silent "n" | Apr 03 12:48 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, the Jdrmd guy has a twitter account too. | Apr 03 12:57 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, "J Roberts" | Apr 03 12:57 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Though, I can almost swear by the name of Allah that he's a liar. :) | Apr 03 13:01 |
| *Tallken (~f2f93bf57@93.102.71.93.rev.optimus.pt) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 03 13:08 | |
| oiaohm | Really one of the big things that need to be gone after is this idea that copyrights can just keep on being made longer. | Apr 03 13:11 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz by that logic, ff could not be endorsed after aol purchased netscape- what about iron browser? can you endorse it?" | Apr 03 13:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm talking about Flash *sigh* | Apr 03 13:15 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: seen that video? | Apr 03 13:15 |
| oiaohm | Yep its right on. | Apr 03 13:15 |
| oiaohm | And very well done. | Apr 03 13:15 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/kabatology/statuses/11528621737 | Apr 03 13:16 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Twitter / Martin Kaba: @schestowitz Google likes ... .::. Size~: 10.43 KB | Apr 03 13:16 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Google likes being partially open, 50/50 so it can stuff in h.26 and integrate flash & get away with it. Mozilla can't." | Apr 03 13:16 |
| schestowitz | exactly. | Apr 03 13:16 |
| oiaohm | With the voting for the dead in some of the islands near us its not like the USA case where it what you would call fraud. Problem of having some head hunter and other strange bases of beliefs near us. Ie as long as the bones of the person is being taken care off by some of there beliefs they are not dead. | Apr 03 13:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I can tell it's spring because I am the unwilling star of a plant bukkake porn epic. | Apr 03 13:18 | |
| oiaohm | Ie so by their beliefs since in their eyes they the bones are still living. Voting by proxy for them is fine. | Apr 03 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Candidates change | Apr 03 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Policies too | Apr 03 13:19 |
| oiaohm | Bones don't have finger prints. | Apr 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | You can't assume what dead people will have decided based on the PR campaigns du jou8r | Apr 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: maybe some NDA? | Apr 03 13:20 |
| oiaohm | So voting by finger prints solves problem. | Apr 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | *DNA | Apr 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Carbon dating works on bones AFAIK | Apr 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | Radio-metrics would anyway | Apr 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | They can ascertain dates with great accuracy going back to before the universe was made | Apr 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | 50 billion years | Apr 03 13:21 |
| schestowitz | With error bar/std deviations at just tens of millions | Apr 03 13:21 |
| oiaohm | You know you have a problem when a person has been voting for over 150 years and they look about 20. | Apr 03 13:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.novell.com/prblogs/?p=2166 | Apr 03 13:22 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: NOVELL: Novell News » Blog Archive » Novell to appeal court ruling in WordPerfect case .::. Size~: 54.66 KB | Apr 03 13:22 |
| oiaohm | No dna is taken. Finger prints are classed good enough to prevent people form voting many times. | Apr 03 13:22 |
| oiaohm | One village reduced from a population of 1000 to about 200 after the dead were removed. | Apr 03 13:23 |
| Eruaran | ? | Apr 03 13:24 |
| Eruaran | oh | Apr 03 13:24 |
| oiaohm | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html#03%20April%202010%20%28India%20plans%20to%20take%20the%20fingerprints%20of%20everyone%20%29 What I was talking to schestowitz about releated to this earlier Eruaran | Apr 03 13:25 |
| schestowitz | http://reverendted.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/microsoft-still-breathtakingly-evil-a-rant/ | Apr 03 13:25 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Microsoft: Still Breathtakingly Evil (a rant) « Reverend Teds Blog .::. Size~: 31.28 KB | Apr 03 13:25 |
| schestowitz | April Fool's | Apr 03 13:25 |
| schestowitz | ? | Apr 03 13:25 |
| schestowitz | I think it's partly serious | Apr 03 13:25 |
| schestowitz | PArtly | Apr 03 13:25 |
| schestowitz | He's from Novell | Apr 03 13:25 |
| oiaohm | Could be a april fools threat to get more money out of ms schestowitz | Apr 03 13:26 |
| Eruaran | thanks oiaohm | Apr 03 13:28 |
| Eruaran | That Microsoft is breathtakingly evil should not be taken lightly. | Apr 03 13:30 |
| Eruaran | Or any very large and powerful corporation. | Apr 03 13:30 |
| Eruaran | I think most people are out of touch with just how wealthy and powerful corporations are today. | Apr 03 13:31 |
| Eruaran | Even before World War Two it was a serious issue. | Apr 03 13:31 |
| schestowitz | This is a good explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSr7hyOHO1Q | Apr 03 13:32 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- SciAm Special: How Do Quantum Computers Work? .::. Size~: 74.36 KB | Apr 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran: people are educated to love companies | Apr 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | They view school as a gift that prepares them to work for one | Apr 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Scientific American's youtube channel is sooooo quiet. http://www.youtube.com/user/SciAmerican#p/u/1/D4mWdz2179M | Apr 03 13:33 |
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| schestowitz | Simulation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4mWdz2179M | Apr 03 13:35 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- SciAm Special: An Earth Without People .::. Size~: 64.63 KB | Apr 03 13:35 |
| Eruaran | The Plot known as "The Business Plot", to overthrow President Roosevelt in 1934: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot | Apr 03 13:38 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Business Plot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 114.22 KB | Apr 03 13:38 |
| Eruaran | A number of powerful people and corporations allegedly backed the plot | Apr 03 13:39 |
| Eruaran | Including a familiar family name | Apr 03 13:39 |
| Eruaran | Bush | Apr 03 13:39 |
| Eruaran | Prescott Bush | Apr 03 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | Eruaran: actually its worse | Apr 03 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | I bet that article doesnt mention The Fed, does it? | Apr 03 13:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | which DUN DUN DUNNNNN prescott bush was involved in | Apr 03 13:42 |
| Eruaran | I haven't noticed | Apr 03 13:42 |
| schestowitz | 1914? | Apr 03 13:42 |
| Eruaran | Interestingly the Bush family's involvement with the military industrial complex goes right back to Prescott Bush | Apr 03 13:42 |
| schestowitz | Well, the Rockefeller dynasty survived this overthrow | Apr 03 13:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Prescott wasnt the first | Apr 03 13:43 |
| Eruaran | yes | Apr 03 13:45 |
| Eruaran | actually it goes back further | Apr 03 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | Samuel Prescott Bush, his father, had a big political career | Apr 03 13:46 |
| Eruaran | holy cow | Apr 03 13:46 |
| Eruaran | Samuel Prescott Bush: a railroad executive, then a steel company president, and, during World War I, also a federal government official in charge of coordination and assistance to major weapons contractors. | Apr 03 13:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | the Reverend James Smith Bush, his father, graduated from Yale and was, apparently, a great attorney | Apr 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mKotQs93Dc | Apr 03 13:48 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- World's deepest living fish .::. Size~: 78.36 KB | Apr 03 13:48 |
| Eruaran | Looks to me like the Bush's learned there's money to be made in war as far back as World War 1. | Apr 03 13:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | James was one of the founding members of the Wolf's Head Society | Apr 03 13:49 |
| Eruaran | Wolf's Head? | Apr 03 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a competing secret society to Skull and Bones | Apr 03 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | but competing in the sense that they both have the same goals | Apr 03 13:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | several members of the Bush family have been members of Skull and Bones as well | Apr 03 13:50 |
| Eruaran | yes I know | Apr 03 13:51 |
| Eruaran | I watched Loose Change 911: An American Coup today | Apr 03 13:52 |
| Eruaran | In a word: Disturbing. | Apr 03 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah its funny | Apr 03 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, Bush and his pals | Apr 03 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | would want to say Im an extremist trying to overthrow the government | Apr 03 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | but Im not | Apr 03 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'm trying to put the Constitution back up on the wall where it belongs | Apr 03 13:53 |
| Eruaran | You know the Project For A New American Century? | Apr 03 13:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | a New World Order. | Apr 03 13:53 |
| Eruaran | The group that published the paper talking about a catalyzing event, a new Pearl Harbour... | Apr 03 13:53 |
| Eruaran | Or mentioning it | Apr 03 13:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yes | Apr 03 13:54 |
| Eruaran | Dick Cheney was one of the authors | Apr 03 13:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | however, 9/11 wasnt a false flag attack | Apr 03 13:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was just absolutely perfect to use for their little scheme | Apr 03 13:54 |
| Eruaran | No less than 17 members of that project ended up in the Bush Administration | Apr 03 13:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | well plus | Apr 03 13:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | Cheney and Rummy were both right hand men of Bush's father | Apr 03 13:55 |
| Eruaran | Did you know during the Regan administration they had a name for the neocons | Apr 03 13:55 |
| Eruaran | Cheney, Rummy and pals | Apr 03 13:56 |
| Eruaran | Everyone in the Regan administration that wasn't part of that group called them the crazies | Apr 03 13:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they are | Apr 03 13:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | their kind we eradicated in American politics during the creation of our country | Apr 03 13:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | they do everything possible to destroy the Freedoms of our fellow Americans. | Apr 03 13:57 |
| Eruaran | And the same Wall St bankers that advised the Bush Whitehouse is also advising the Obama Whitehouse | Apr 03 13:57 |
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| Diablo-D3 | Eruaran: not quite | Apr 03 13:57 |
| sebsebseb | Hi | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Obama has his own little plan going on | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think hes actually attempting to let the fuckers hang themselves | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Which would make him the most epic political troll ever | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Eruaran | I hope so | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Well, look at how he left them out in the cold over the health care bill | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | Obama slightly overplayed his hand there | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | And I think quite a few people caught him | Apr 03 13:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | It stopped being about the bill, and about really crippling neocons in the Government | Apr 03 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | the problem is, the GOP set itself up for it | Apr 03 13:59 |
| Eruaran | If you're right, he must be careful. | Apr 03 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Obama must be _very_ careful | Apr 03 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Hes playing a game I'm not entirely sure he understands all the rules of | Apr 03 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | People are already threatening the lives of people (who are lower on the totem pole) who supported him | Apr 03 14:00 |
| Eruaran | These are powerful people... He needs to be smarter than Kennedy | Apr 03 14:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | Heh, Kennedy won | Apr 03 14:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | Died, but won | Apr 03 14:00 |
| Eruaran | this is pretty scary stuff | Apr 03 14:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | Well, not really | Apr 03 14:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | This is the eternal battle between Good and Evil, if anything | Apr 03 14:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | These things have played out before, and will continue to happen over and over. | Apr 03 14:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | Every great society has done it at least once. | Apr 03 14:01 |
| Eruaran | Were talking about people who are very powerful and basically traitors to their own country. | Apr 03 14:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yes, but look at the big picture | Apr 03 14:02 |
| Eruaran | The big picture is that if these men get their way they will take the US into the abyss. | Apr 03 14:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | The big picture is Good continues to win, even if we lose a few societies along the way. | Apr 03 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | As the average intelligence of the people of the world rises, it becomes harder for evil to flourish | Apr 03 14:06 |
| Eruaran | sry have been afk | Apr 03 14:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "iPad Lines Around the World" http://bit.ly/b30BwH where of course USA==World. | Apr 03 14:30 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | lol ipad | Apr 03 14:33 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just noticed the tickbox in the Rhythmbox indicator menu in Lucid is now just a nice little tick. | Apr 03 14:33 | |
| Eruaran | I think if you put an Apple logo on a white shoebox people will line up for it. | Apr 03 14:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | iCoffin | Apr 03 14:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | dohohohoho | Apr 03 14:34 |
| Eruaran | iPillow | Apr 03 14:34 |
| Eruaran | Plays music from iTunes while you sleep, interspersed with short statements from Steve Jobs like, "It's magical". | Apr 03 14:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | iPillow, the other more Japanese kind | Apr 03 14:35 |
| MinceR | ew | Apr 03 14:35 |
| Eruaran | lol | Apr 03 14:35 |
| oiaohm | Hmm I am supprised no one has done a iCoffin yet. | Apr 03 14:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | with changeable covers, one with Steve Jobs in a vulnerable position, the other with the Woz | Apr 03 14:36 |
| Eruaran | No changeable covers | Apr 03 14:36 |
| Eruaran | Apple doesn't do that sort of thing | Apr 03 14:36 |
| MinceR | there would be a need for multiple sizes of iCoffins | Apr 03 14:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no | Apr 03 14:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | one size fits all | Apr 03 14:37 |
| Eruaran | iCoffin Nano? | Apr 03 14:37 |
| MinceR | for exploded hypePhones and self-bricked macs at least | Apr 03 14:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | Eruaran: thats just... disturbing | Apr 03 14:37 |
| Eruaran | lol | Apr 03 14:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they're for people | Apr 03 14:37 |
| *Diablo-D3 would rather be interred inside a large black featureless monolith | Apr 03 14:37 | |
| *MinceR was thinking along the lines of http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/rip_beloved_console_friend_xbo.php | Apr 03 14:38 | |
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| Eruaran | System Z ? | Apr 03 14:38 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] PROTIP: Your XP partition boots better if NTLDR and NTDETECT.COM are actually present. Who'da thunk! | Apr 03 14:40 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I do like that my local Home Brew shop has a page on facebook. I don't know why, I just do. http://bit.ly/aUnx9R | Apr 03 14:40 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.laughitout.com/2010/02/icoffin-for-hi-tech-send-off.html O boy Sometimes I should not search things. | Apr 03 14:45 |
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| oiaohm | I know where I would be able to order something done like that. | Apr 03 14:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Does Have Battery Issues and #Microsoft Gives “MVP” to Man Who Loves “to Argue Against #Linux Fanatics” http://ur1.ca/t345 | Apr 03 14:55 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Vista 7 Does Have Battery Issues (Microsoft Lied) and Microsoft Gives “MVP” to Man Who Loves to Argue Against Linux Fanatics | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.25 KB | Apr 03 14:55 |
| oiaohm | You might want to keep the iCoffin picture around. schestowitz | Apr 03 15:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Inserting a James CD just barfed my entire desktop. Glad the karmic-lucid upgrade was happening in byobu over ssh! | Apr 03 15:09 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: which one? | Apr 03 15:28 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: I see now... maybe copyrighted | Apr 03 15:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] methinks .11 guage strings were a tad on the heavy side for soft fingers, but they'll learn | Apr 03 15:38 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Love to put tracks on and watch Sophie do her own freestyle dancing.Right now Jamiroquai-Canned Heat.Yesterday Wii Sports resort music :) | Apr 03 15:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I need to make some business cards. Someone fancy designing some for me? I have the design skills of well.. me. | Apr 03 15:48 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Could Buy #UNIX , #Novell and Microsoft to Return to the Courtroom http://ur1.ca/t3a4 #wordperfect #sco | Apr 03 15:51 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Microsoft Could Buy UNIX, Novell and Microsoft to Return to the Courtroom | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.06 KB | Apr 03 15:51 |
| oiaohm | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_70 Nice | Apr 03 16:01 |
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| oiaohm | The UNIX copyrights are not a threat even if MS gets them. Novell willing gave code to Linux. So anything SCO had is worthless. | Apr 03 16:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] congrats to @redcountess on her house move and new room! | Apr 03 16:05 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Beware! http://j.mp/daX99H | Apr 03 16:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Love taking hard disks to bits. :) | Apr 03 16:16 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/34 | Apr 03 16:25 |
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| ender2070 | lol they are trying to steal iControlPad | Apr 03 16:25 |
| ender2070 | wow malware creation is profitable for criminals too | Apr 03 16:28 |
| ender2070 | http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/04/spyeye-vs-zeus-rivalry/ | Apr 03 16:28 |
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| ender2070 | the ZeuS malware kit costs $4000 | Apr 03 16:28 |
| ender2070 | add-ons bring it up even more | Apr 03 16:29 |
| ender2070 | -Windows7/Vista compatibility module – $2,000 | Apr 03 16:29 |
| ender2070 | -Backconnect module (lets criminals connect back to victim and make bank transactions through that PC) – $1,500 | Apr 03 16:29 |
| ender2070 | -Firefox form grabbing (copies out any data entered into a form field, such as a user name and password) – $2,000 | Apr 03 16:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wohoo! I mention Business cards and get spammed by a bot to a link that doesn't actually work! :D | Apr 03 16:29 | |
| ender2070 | the SpyEye malware kit hijacks and removes ZeuS | Apr 03 16:30 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 03 16:30 |
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| ender2070 | another reason to use chromium: sandboxing on linux | Apr 03 16:50 |
| ender2070 | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxSandboxing | Apr 03 16:50 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple ’s use of the #USITC loophole leads to embargo-based pressure against a distributor of phones with #Linux http://ur1.ca/t3hg | Apr 03 16:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: AppArmor or SELinux can do that for Firefox easily | Apr 03 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | more thorough even | Apr 03 17:01 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Currently trying to write a newstechnica that will justify the brilliant headline. This is not easy! | Apr 03 17:01 | |
| DaemonFC | I suppose you could also use them to fortify Chrome/Chromium too | Apr 03 17:02 |
| ender2070 | i dont think they do | Apr 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | no, YOU could | Apr 03 17:03 |
| ender2070 | as firefox doesn't support sandboxing | Apr 03 17:03 |
| ender2070 | you could sandbox the whole thing | Apr 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Firefox doesn'r | Apr 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | MAC can contain it from the outside | Apr 03 17:03 |
| ender2070 | but then it might not even work at accessing stuff on your system it needs | Apr 03 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | that's why you run it in complain mode first | Apr 03 17:04 |
| ender2070 | still | Apr 03 17:04 |
| ender2070 | chromium is a more secure design, each tab is in its own sandbox | Apr 03 17:04 |
| ender2070 | even in linux now | Apr 03 17:04 |
| ender2070 | each sandbox has no network access or system access either | Apr 03 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | yes, but each tab and the main process still have broad access to your files and folders | Apr 03 17:05 |
| ender2070 | no | Apr 03 17:05 |
| ender2070 | only the main process does | Apr 03 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | and if they are exploited or elevated, they still may gain system access | Apr 03 17:05 |
| ender2070 | the tabs don't get shit | Apr 03 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | and even if they can't elevate, they can see what's out there | Apr 03 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | hmm | Apr 03 17:05 |
| ender2070 | if they hack a tab, they are stuck within it | Apr 03 17:05 |
| ender2070 | as far as I know, nobody has broken out yet | Apr 03 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | well, I'm just saying that a second line of defense is not a terrible idea | Apr 03 17:06 |
| ender2070 | oh for sure | Apr 03 17:06 |
| ender2070 | do both | Apr 03 17:06 |
| ender2070 | sandboxing within chromium, and sandboxing that on the system | Apr 03 17:06 |
| ender2070 | but if u break firefox right now, sure it wont get access to your system | Apr 03 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I'd really like to see someone pwn Chrome running with a proper SELinux or AppArmor policy | Apr 03 17:07 |
| ender2070 | but it will have access to everything firefox has | Apr 03 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | that would be an accomplishment | Apr 03 17:07 |
| ender2070 | did they even pwn chrome on windows yet? | Apr 03 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | nobody tried on pwn to own | Apr 03 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | why choose Chrome when you have IE? | Apr 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | I mean shit | Apr 03 17:08 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 03 17:08 |
| ender2070 | thats true | Apr 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | you DO want maximum chance to win the laptop | Apr 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | right??? | Apr 03 17:08 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Apr 03 17:08 |
| ender2070 | but pwn2own isnt really fair anyways | Apr 03 17:08 |
| ender2070 | the same guy won it for years | Apr 03 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | it's fair *if* he legitimately won it and everyone had a chance | Apr 03 17:08 |
| ender2070 | he had his exploits kept secret for those years too, he knew all of them before all the years he participated | Apr 03 17:08 |
| ender2070 | i read an article interviewing him last year | Apr 03 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | that's what's scary, he can queue his IE exploits 5 years in advance | Apr 03 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | and they're STILL unfixed 5 years in | Apr 03 17:09 |
| ender2070 | we wanted to maximize his winnings | Apr 03 17:09 |
| ender2070 | honestly i'd do the same thing | Apr 03 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | that's a real statement about how swiss cheese IE is | Apr 03 17:10 |
| ender2070 | if its for a competition where I could earn something from it | Apr 03 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | it really is | Apr 03 17:10 |
| ender2070 | IE being secure is a joke | Apr 03 17:10 |
| ender2070 | it really is | Apr 03 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | RMS's "Swatting at mosquitos" comment really comes to mind | Apr 03 17:11 |
| ender2070 | ZeuS sells a addon that captures from IE | Apr 03 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | when I think of IE security patches | Apr 03 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | they killed one, only a billion more to go | Apr 03 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft unfairly criticizes Firefox as having more vulnerabilities when most Firefox ones "read your cookies" and most IE ones grant full system access | Apr 03 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | not really the same severity, but they only cite numbers | Apr 03 17:12 |
| ender2070 | ms just recently ran office 2010 through a new dev process which found thousands of bugs | Apr 03 17:14 |
| ender2070 | recently | Apr 03 17:14 |
| ender2070 | some program that fills input fields in with random data looking for buffer overflows | Apr 03 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | so fixed or "ship like that and send out SP1 next year"? | Apr 03 17:14 |
| ender2070 | fixed | Apr 03 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | there's been only a handful of Windows 7 bugs fixed thus far and Microsoft is insisting that SP1 will be no big deal | Apr 03 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if that's PR or that it just doesn't need many fixes | Apr 03 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | the most annoying Windows 7 bug in the RTM which is fixed by a patch so far, in my experience was the shortcut icons disappearing if you upgraded an application in place | Apr 03 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | like I would lose my Opera or Firefox icon if I installed a new version of the EXE over the old one | Apr 03 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 17:17 |
| ender2070 | they can't deliver any news as bad news, even if it | Apr 03 17:17 |
| ender2070 | is | Apr 03 17:17 |
| ender2070 | shareholders | Apr 03 17:17 |
| ender2070 | they have to give everything a positive spin | Apr 03 17:17 |
| ender2070 | they'll insist it adds new features or something and downplay the fixes | Apr 03 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.freep.com/article/20100403/BUSINESS07/4030334/1319/ | Apr 03 17:18 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: U.S. job gain largest in 3 years | freep.com | Detroit Free Press .::. Size~: 51.23 KB | Apr 03 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | (and half those aare the government hiring census workers to go bug people that don't fill out their form) | Apr 03 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | let's not mention that ;) | Apr 03 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I'm loving the Census already | Apr 03 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Texas is going to get one hell of an undercount | Apr 03 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | the northern states might not lose as many Congressional seats | Apr 03 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | the Glenn Becks and Rush Limbaughs are scaring the south into under-representing themselves | Apr 03 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | which is a great service they'd done for the country | Apr 03 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh deserve the Presidential Medal of Freedom after this | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | just to pour salt in | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | instead of hiring people to canvas Texas, we should just accept their count and move on | Apr 03 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | let them figure out later what they've done | Apr 03 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | Another awesome L-shaped economy | Apr 03 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | thanks to the forces of globalization | Apr 03 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | every once in a while, there's just a great jobs purge all at once, then the situation "stabilizes" and they call it a recovery | Apr 03 17:24 |
| ender2070 | hmmm | Apr 03 17:24 |
| ender2070 | I might maintain linux-libre for fedora | Apr 03 17:24 |
| ender2070 | buahahahaha | Apr 03 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's like schestowitz referring to the homes being bulldozed in Detroit | Apr 03 17:24 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - i referenced that | Apr 03 17:25 |
| ender2070 | its part of Agenda 21 | Apr 03 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm? | Apr 03 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's not a conspiracy if it's in full view | Apr 03 17:25 |
| ender2070 | compacting cities, removal of rural areas, passing laws to make it difficult not living in cities (building codes) | Apr 03 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | people are just too fat and stupid to go pull those sons of bitches out of their homes and send them to the gallows | Apr 03 17:26 |
| ender2070 | the definition of conspiracy isnt what most people think it is | Apr 03 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | that's the only problem with the USA right now | Apr 03 17:26 |
| ender2070 | a conspiracy is just a group of people with an agenda | Apr 03 17:26 |
| ender2070 | what i think you mean is its not a theory | Apr 03 17:26 |
| ender2070 | because its in plain sight | Apr 03 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | we could do something about this | Apr 03 17:27 |
| ender2070 | you can look up UN Agenda 21 for yourself | Apr 03 17:27 |
| ender2070 | people have been talking about it for years | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | we need to pull these people out of their homes and offices | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | and lynch them | Apr 03 17:27 |
| ender2070 | agenda 21 aims towards getting everyone into cities, they are easier to manage | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | scare the banksters into running to Canada | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | begging for amnesty | Apr 03 17:27 |
| ender2070 | the banksters own Canada due | Apr 03 17:27 |
| ender2070 | dude | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | mmhm, I mean ours too | Apr 03 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 03 17:28 |
| ender2070 | like | Apr 03 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | take all of them | Apr 03 17:28 |
| ender2070 | you guys fought your martial law stuff | Apr 03 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | we don't mind | Apr 03 17:28 |
| ender2070 | we got the laws in 1997 | Apr 03 17:28 |
| ender2070 | before 9/11 | Apr 03 17:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Going to have to go internet dark at 6:20, so as not to see any irc/twitter/email based spoilers about new Doctor Who. | Apr 03 17:28 | |
| DaemonFC | yeah, we didn't win | Apr 03 17:28 |
| ender2070 | thats why Canada seems to be doing nothing to prevent terrorism | Apr 03 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | we forced it underground | Apr 03 17:28 |
| ender2070 | because we already have the laws in place being used | Apr 03 17:29 |
| ender2070 | there were two thwarted terrorist attacks here | Apr 03 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | secret operation to deploy the military to encircle major cities | Apr 03 17:29 |
| ender2070 | they were being monitored on the internet | Apr 03 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure they have those | Apr 03 17:29 |
| ender2070 | daemonfc - check out "DCDC Out to 2040" | Apr 03 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | heavily armed soldiers then storm the place | Apr 03 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | in Stryker vehicles | Apr 03 17:29 |
| ender2070 | http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/D70F2CC7-5673-43AE-BA73-1F887801266C/0/20100202GST_4_Global_Strategic_Trends_Out_to_2040UDCDCStrat_Trends_4.pdf | Apr 03 17:29 |
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| DaemonFC | and take over | Apr 03 17:29 |
| ender2070 | the UK DOD predicts a lot of stuff | Apr 03 17:30 |
| ender2070 | UK Department of Defense | Apr 03 17:30 |
| ender2070 | they dont fuck around | Apr 03 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | parasites | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | lampreys | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | former rulers of an "Empire" that now have to latch on and suck blood from bigger fish | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | ho-hum | Apr 03 17:31 |
| ender2070 | "surveillance of personnel via mood sensing devices" | Apr 03 17:31 |
| ender2070 | they'll know your slacking off | Apr 03 17:32 |
| ender2070 | communistic efficiency | Apr 03 17:32 |
| ender2070 | "you had fun doing this for a few minutes, we're docking x amount of credits for not working" | Apr 03 17:32 |
| ender2070 | the world is going to hell | Apr 03 17:33 |
| ender2070 | ill show you agenda 21 | Apr 03 17:34 |
| ender2070 | http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda21_00.shtml | Apr 03 17:34 |
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| ender2070 | one of the UN's goals is to control food production for the entire world | Apr 03 17:35 |
| ender2070 | they plan to ration out to countries | Apr 03 17:35 |
| ender2070 | countries will be told to reduce their own populations if they can't meet their rations | Apr 03 17:35 |
| ender2070 | monsanto will assist in this | Apr 03 17:36 |
| ender2070 | as they will own all ways of making food | Apr 03 17:36 |
| ender2070 | via patents | Apr 03 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: "This world view is characteristic of large scale societies, heavily dependent on resources brought from considerable distances. It is a world view that is characterized by the denial of sacred attributes in nature, a characteristic that became firmly established about 2000 years ago with the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religious traditions." | Apr 03 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | "Eastern cultures with religious traditions such as Buddhism, Jainism and Hinduism did not depart as drastically from the perspective of humans as members of a community of beings including other living and non-living elements." | Apr 03 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Apr 03 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: A lot of the opposition to this seems to be bogeymen that the conservative Christians are conjuring up to justify their long-standing and undeserved persecution complex | Apr 03 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | you notice that Wikipedia has a lot of articles about persecution directed AT Christians | Apr 03 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | but little or nothing about atrocities committed BY Christians | Apr 03 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I told someone that I'm going to vote for all the local rat bastards in this year's elections | Apr 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | they asked me why I would do such a thing | Apr 03 18:12 |
| ender2070 | those are your only choices | Apr 03 18:12 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | I told them I want to make things as miserable here as possible so the Republicans who only care about themselves are personally inconvenienced enough to rally and change things | Apr 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | my viewpoint is that Conservatives only care about themselves, and unless I can help make their world go to hell too, things will not get better | Apr 03 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | so we need a race to the bottom here | Apr 03 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | I want the town to get as bad as it can until people throw all these assholes out at once | Apr 03 18:14 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | that's how you get change, it comes when things are so bad for so many people that they won't tolerate it anymore | Apr 03 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | and going from Bush to Obama wasn't change | Apr 03 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | it was mild dissatisfaction | Apr 03 18:18 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] trying out Pino for Identi.ca http://pino-app.appspot.com/index | Apr 03 18:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | American politicians will stay in office in two ways combined | Apr 03 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Keep things just good enough to not cause an open revolt. | Apr 03 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | 2. Have guys in a different team jacket who are just like you on all important areas. Let the people throw you out and put the other guys in ad infinitum. | Apr 03 18:20 |
| ender2070 | yup | Apr 03 18:20 |
| ender2070 | it also helps if the same lobbists are paying every new elected official | Apr 03 18:21 |
| ender2070 | lobbyists* | Apr 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | yes, companies bribe the candidates of both parties | Apr 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | then they own whoever wins | Apr 03 18:21 |
| ender2070 | every new us president gets shown JFK assassination footage from an angle never seen before, from the grassy knoll (bill hicks, lol) | Apr 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | you have to wonder about that sometimes | Apr 03 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | like "is that why they changed so quickly?" | Apr 03 18:22 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 03 18:23 |
| ender2070 | too bad election promises aren't grounds for impeachment | Apr 03 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | exactly | Apr 03 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | what would have been nice would be if the US Constitution had a third way to change it | Apr 03 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | ballot initiative | Apr 03 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | the people are not an effective check on government power without that ability | Apr 03 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | how long do you figure that the income tax would have lasted if there could be a popular vote to repeal it? | Apr 03 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 18:25 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Apr 03 18:25 |
| ender2070 | we're slaves | Apr 03 18:26 |
| ender2070 | we get to choose our dictators and live in their system until we die, paying a percentage of our income for services we don't really need to survive | Apr 03 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I would also like to see an amendment to ban the central banking system | Apr 03 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 03 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | "The government of the United State of America shall enter into no agreement with a national banking system or any similar institution" | Apr 03 18:27 |
| ender2070 | then we're given things that we think are really cool and awesome, so we continue being slaves to pay for it | Apr 03 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | how's that? | Apr 03 18:27 |
| ender2070 | then they make so much of it, we go into debt to get the cool stuff | Apr 03 18:28 |
| ender2070 | which further reinforces slavery | Apr 03 18:28 |
| ender2070 | keeping you at your job to pay for it all | Apr 03 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | "The government of the United State of America shall have no authority to enact or enforce any unapportioned taxation of any kind" | Apr 03 18:29 |
| ender2070 | then they hope you die before you collect your pension and kill nutrition in average meals so people die and get sick faster | Apr 03 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | now we're getting somewhere | Apr 03 18:29 |
| ender2070 | who wins in all this? banks | Apr 03 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, if you die before you collect, they just call yours a "surplus" | Apr 03 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | and spend it | Apr 03 18:30 |
| ender2070 | yup | Apr 03 18:30 |
| ender2070 | elderly homes are even getting funding cuts all over the place | Apr 03 18:30 |
| ender2070 | some are implementing required feeding tubes | Apr 03 18:30 |
| ender2070 | making it more cost effective to take care of eating habbits of the elderly | Apr 03 18:31 |
| ender2070 | even though the operation can be fatal | Apr 03 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, and the government gives seniors and the disabled so little to live on that they have to sell property and mortgage their house and borrow against their car | Apr 03 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | and the banks hit them all over again | Apr 03 18:31 |
| ender2070 | yup | Apr 03 18:31 |
| ender2070 | they get put into homes | Apr 03 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | that too | Apr 03 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | and the nursing home steals their house and car if they managed to keep those | Apr 03 18:32 |
| ender2070 | and the homes are going to get worse | Apr 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | and the government lets them steal the house and car from relatives | Apr 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | if they were signed over in the last 5 years | Apr 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | so they have nothing at all left to leave their children as an inheritence | Apr 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | the nursing home took it all | Apr 03 18:32 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Apr 03 18:32 |
| ender2070 | this world is fucked | Apr 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Medicaid won't pay one cent until ALL your property is GONE | Apr 03 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | my parents and I talked | Apr 03 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | they'll sign all their things over to me and my brother well before they go into the home | Apr 03 18:33 |
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| DaemonFC | so we technically own it long enough for the home to not take it | Apr 03 18:34 |
| ender2070 | i dont want to be in a home when im old | Apr 03 18:34 |
| ender2070 | it'll be way too fucked up by then | Apr 03 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | well, like 10 years or so before they thing it's time, they'll sign things over to me just in case | Apr 03 18:34 |
| ender2070 | thats if they dont forcibly kill the elderly | Apr 03 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | so I've owned them on paper for more than 5 years | Apr 03 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | good plan, huh? | Apr 03 18:34 |
| ender2070 | for being "useless" to the communistic society we'll live in | Apr 03 18:34 |
| ender2070 | they're passing laws that allow doctors to kill their patients | Apr 03 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | well, it's sick and damned disgusting that I have to own the houses they live in on paper for that long or else the home can come steal them from me | Apr 03 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | if I owned them for less than 5 years, the home will sue me and take my property | Apr 03 18:36 |
| ender2070 | thats fucked up | Apr 03 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | it is | Apr 03 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | they should not have the authority to seize things that were given to me by the rightful owner | Apr 03 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | ever | Apr 03 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: My grandmother is getting to the age where she may have to be in a home soon | Apr 03 18:37 |
| ender2070 | "Jay Rockefeller went on record to say that at some point the government has to decide whether or not you are allowed to receive any more medical benefits if the cost outweighs the potential benefits." | Apr 03 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | so she went ahead and took a reverse mortgage on all the value of her house | Apr 03 18:37 |
| ender2070 | http://arkansasgopwing.blogspot.com/2009/07/democrats-obamacare-plan-save-costs.html | Apr 03 18:37 |
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| DaemonFC | so there's nothing to take | Apr 03 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | either that or the home will have to sue the bank | Apr 03 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 18:38 |
| ender2070 | thats happening sort of in Canada already | Apr 03 18:38 |
| ender2070 | they want to take health care away from smokers to cut costs | Apr 03 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: I agree with that much | Apr 03 18:38 |
| ender2070 | it makes sense but its hypocritical of the government | Apr 03 18:38 |
| ender2070 | they tax smokes | Apr 03 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | if you want to do that, you're on your own | Apr 03 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | well, hmm | Apr 03 18:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: if you engage in behavior that is known to kill you, you shouldnt have the right to free medical care | Apr 03 18:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | period. | Apr 03 18:39 |
| ender2070 | yeah i agree too but they tax smokes, lol | Apr 03 18:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they should tax smokes | Apr 03 18:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | in the US, taxing is how we stop unwanted behavior | Apr 03 18:39 |
| ender2070 | yes | Apr 03 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3: If they tax them enough to fund the added burden to the system, then they shouldn't be cut off | Apr 03 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | if not, then either tax them or cut them off | Apr 03 18:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | which is why the whole illegal drug schedule process is pretty much bullshit | Apr 03 18:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: unrelated things | Apr 03 18:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | they tax you to make you stop | Apr 03 18:40 |
| ender2070 | I agree but one you accept that they can cut people out of healthcare, it opens the floodgates for all sorts of cuts for behavior | Apr 03 18:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you dont stop, you dont have a right to healthcare | Apr 03 18:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're unrelated things | Apr 03 18:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | you can tax things that dont kill you | Apr 03 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | Bill Hicks again......The drugs that are legal are the ones that do NOTHING good for you which they can also tax. | Apr 03 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 18:40 |
| ender2070 | they might decide to cut healthcare for those who eat fatty food, due to heart attack related risks | Apr 03 18:40 |
| ender2070 | etc | Apr 03 18:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: yes, and then they should start taxing food based on fat content | Apr 03 18:40 |
| ender2070 | they should just increase the taxes more | Apr 03 18:40 |
| ender2070 | not cut health care | Apr 03 18:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Devil sells soul to Mandelson http://newstechnica.com/?p=1941 (title nicked from @suw) | Apr 03 18:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | ender2070: What is the penalty for possession of Marijuana in Canada | Apr 03 18:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | which means McDs would be out of business by the end of the decade | Apr 03 18:40 |
| ender2070 | tax smokes and fast food | Apr 03 18:41 |
| ender2070 | bam | Apr 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | is that Province-level? | Apr 03 18:41 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - like a ticket? | Apr 03 18:41 |
| ender2070 | and you might have to go to court | Apr 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | an ounce or less in most states gets you a possible year in jail | Apr 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | and a $5,000 or so fine | Apr 03 18:41 |
| ender2070 | DaemonFC - its all tickets and fines here | Apr 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | more than that and it's felony intent to sell | Apr 03 18:41 |
| ender2070 | unless you have a massive amount | Apr 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 18:41 |
| ender2070 | if you have like a dime bag they'll usually let you go | Apr 03 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | Massachusetts an ounce or less is just a $100 fine and it's only an infraction | Apr 03 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's not even a misdemeanor there | Apr 03 18:42 |
| ender2070 | if you have a certain amount they consider you a dealer and fine you more | Apr 03 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | infractions can only carry fines, and only under $500 | Apr 03 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | well, in most states | Apr 03 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | California is handing out $800 speeding tickets now | Apr 03 18:42 |
| ender2070 | I think jail time only happens if you have a really really large amount of pot, or a grow-op | Apr 03 18:43 |
| ender2070 | the amount of pot you could carry on yourself is getting you a ticket afaik | Apr 03 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | California is taxing people through traffic citations | Apr 03 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | because there's no way out of that | Apr 03 18:43 |
| ender2070 | you can fight traffic citations here | Apr 03 18:43 |
| ender2070 | in court | Apr 03 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | you can here too, but you almost never get out of them | Apr 03 18:44 |
| ender2070 | it works very well if the cop doesnt show up | Apr 03 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's you, the judge, and the cop | Apr 03 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | yes, and only if they don't show up | Apr 03 18:44 |
| ender2070 | theres one trick a lawyer here told me once | Apr 03 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | but the court fees are in the ticket | Apr 03 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | so you may as well go and hope he doesn't show | Apr 03 18:44 |
| ender2070 | he says dont show up for court the first time and have a valid excuse, a doctors note or something getting you out for an emergency | Apr 03 18:44 |
| ender2070 | then | Apr 03 18:45 |
| ender2070 | when you go the second time, they often dont want to pay the cop to be there a 2nd time | Apr 03 18:45 |
| ender2070 | because its a waste of time | Apr 03 18:45 |
| ender2070 | time = money | Apr 03 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | police here are on salary | Apr 03 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | so they can play around with you as much as you want | Apr 03 18:45 |
| ender2070 | ahh | Apr 03 18:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but _they_ dont want to show up | Apr 03 18:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | because they have to meet their quota | Apr 03 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | There's two ways out of a ticket mostly | Apr 03 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | cop doesn't show up is one | Apr 03 18:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | and every minute in court means a minute not busting innocent Americans | Apr 03 18:46 |
| ender2070 | tell me if this would happen in the USA | Apr 03 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | second is if the cop wrote incorrect info on the ticket | Apr 03 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | like he misspelled my name or got the wrong street | Apr 03 18:46 |
| ender2070 | one of my friends was raided because someone called the cops and said they had guns | Apr 03 18:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | third is if cop violated the law | Apr 03 18:46 |
| ender2070 | the cops searched the house and found drugs and booked him for that | Apr 03 18:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: did he have a license? | Apr 03 18:46 |
| ender2070 | now | Apr 03 18:46 |
| ender2070 | he got out of that on court | Apr 03 18:47 |
| ender2070 | because, they were looking for guns | Apr 03 18:47 |
| ender2070 | and he didnt have any | Apr 03 18:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | because if he didnt, then yes, thats an illegal search | Apr 03 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3: I challenged a speeding ticket once on the grounds that the cop splled my name wrong and that made it an invalid citation | Apr 03 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | and the judge ruled the ticket was invalid | Apr 03 18:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, if he did I mean | Apr 03 18:47 |
| ender2070 | the cops didnt even show up for court | Apr 03 18:47 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 03 18:47 |
| ender2070 | the search warrant was for guns | Apr 03 18:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: btw, if a cop sees something illegal being done while already there for something, then its legit | Apr 03 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: If the cop fucks up anything on that ticket, DON'T correct him | Apr 03 18:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | however, if they cant find the original thing, they're really really boned | Apr 03 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | bring it to court and get it invalidated | Apr 03 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 18:48 |
| ender2070 | :) | Apr 03 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070: Another thing, like if it's the street that he messed up | Apr 03 18:48 |
| ender2070 | the cops even apoligized to my buddy | Apr 03 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | then question the cop, ask him what street he pulled you over on | Apr 03 18:49 |
| ender2070 | they thought he was a hardened criminal the way the report was made | Apr 03 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | like he might answer "Briant St." | Apr 03 18:49 |
| ender2070 | the person said he had all sorts of funs | Apr 03 18:49 |
| Omar87 | Those people who make fun or right anti-BN/TR posts never fail to prove how stupid they really are. | Apr 03 18:49 |
| ender2070 | guns | Apr 03 18:49 |
| ender2070 | and he had killed people | Apr 03 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | and then say "Well, says here it was Etna Ave." | Apr 03 18:49 |
| ender2070 | omar87 -refering to what exactly? | Apr 03 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | trick the cop into giving the wrong answer | Apr 03 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | then he can't easily back out of it later | Apr 03 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | or change his story | Apr 03 18:50 |
| Omar87 | ender2070, generally all of the people who write articles opposing BN/TR of being a spam site. | Apr 03 18:50 |
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| ender2070 | like who | Apr 03 18:52 |
| ender2070 | i agree with you, but have you read anything recently | Apr 03 18:52 |
| Omar87 | ender2070, yeah. There was that article that I read a couple days ago. As usual, it makes fun of how Roy uses "Totally irrelevant images", and proves that its author has never read a single article at BN. :) | Apr 03 18:55 |
| *sebsebseb found someone on another network that likes OpenSuse a lot... | Apr 03 18:57 | |
| ender2070 | I want to read it too | Apr 03 18:57 |
| ender2070 | ewww opensuse | Apr 03 19:00 |
| Omar87 | ender2070, I'm looking for the link, but for some reason I can't find it anywhere. Once I find it, I'll pass it to you. | Apr 03 19:00 |
| ender2070 | omar87 - thanks | Apr 03 19:01 |
| ender2070 | omar87 - i want to see how badly its written | Apr 03 19:01 |
| Omar87 | ender2070, yep! Got it! http://openattitude.com/2010/03/29/is-boycott-novell-spamming-me/ | Apr 03 19:02 |
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| sebsebseb | ender2070: indeed | Apr 03 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | ewww opensuse | Apr 03 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | however it also has it's fan boys | Apr 03 19:04 |
| sebsebseb | just like Ubuntu and the other distro's | Apr 03 19:04 |
| ender2070 | omar87 - interesting, he refers to Verofako as a source of intelligence | Apr 03 19:05 |
| ender2070 | Verofako in my opinion is a Lefty pseudonym, as im sure others will agree too | Apr 03 19:06 |
| ender2070 | then goes on to bring up Boycott Boycott Novell | Apr 03 19:06 |
| Omar87 | ender2070, see? That's just a link in a chain of proofs that the guy either doesn't know what he's talking about, or that he is Verofacto himself. :P | Apr 03 19:07 |
| Omar87 | ender2070, it seems like the "Mr. Psychopath" guy from Linsux has vanished from FSDaily after I made a joke out of him there. | Apr 03 19:11 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 03 19:14 |
| ender2070 | yeah its quite likely | Apr 03 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.gasbike.net/izip_electric_mountain_bike_mountain_trailz_al_mens.html | Apr 03 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | might get one of these | Apr 03 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's inelegant but simple and don't have to insure it or put gas in it | Apr 03 19:15 |
| ender2070 | though its likely hes just talked to or is friends with vero | Apr 03 19:16 |
| ender2070 | the writing style isn't quite the same | Apr 03 19:16 |
| ender2070 | but vero = lefty, totally possible | Apr 03 19:16 |
| ender2070 | the owner of openattitude is johnblair | Apr 03 19:18 |
| ender2070 | www.johnblair.ca | Apr 03 19:18 |
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| DaemonFC | sebsebseb: I'm proud of myself :P | Apr 03 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | I bought an 80cc 4 stroke gasoline engine to mount on my bicycle (which is 30cc larger that the state allows) | Apr 03 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | but what cop pulls over a bicycle and checks, right? | Apr 03 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | 150 miles per gallon and a maximum speed for 45 miles per hour | Apr 03 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 03 20:27 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] o_0 RT *denny Christian Voice anti-BNP because saying 'blacks are less evolved than whites' shows belief in evolution: http://tr.im/Un5g | Apr 03 20:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] iPad??!! What on Earth is that? Oooh!! You mean "iPay"? the useless lump of plastic that doesn't even have multi-tasking?! :D @ChrisPirillo | Apr 03 20:43 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Has #Novell Exceeded Lobbying Power in #GNOME ? http://ur1.ca/t496 Analysis of the great influence Novell has gained | Apr 03 20:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm going fishing next weekend :) | Apr 03 20:45 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning, all! Little later than usual, nice sleep in, great breakfast, up-coming vacation, life is good! :-) | Apr 03 20:50 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to get jiggy with three merge proposals for Python Snippets. Rock and roll. :-) | Apr 03 20:51 | |
| DaemonFC | jono doesn't get vacation | Apr 03 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | jono needs to write more Python snippets | Apr 03 20:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Quick test of a new Python Snippet for the 'twitter' module! | Apr 03 20:54 | |
| Omar87 | DaemonFC, nice guess! :D | Apr 03 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | about what? | Apr 03 20:56 |
| Omar87 | about Jono writing more Python snippets. | Apr 03 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | jono: enough with the Python Snippets, you're OBSESSED with the Python Snippets! | Apr 03 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's not natural! :P | Apr 03 20:59 |
| jono | DaemonFC, hehe | Apr 03 20:59 |
| jono | it helps people write free software, a good obsession to have :) | Apr 03 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | jono: My dad was forced to learn C# and VB.NET | Apr 03 21:00 |
| jono | heh | Apr 03 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | in order to keep his job :P | Apr 03 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | he said the company he's on contract with right now is doing that Microsoft Suse deal | Apr 03 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | so there's XP, 2003, and SLES out there right now | Apr 03 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | lots of businesses are still trying to beat a couple more years out of XP and 2003 | Apr 03 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's sad really | Apr 03 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | jono: I gave up on my search for a car I think | Apr 03 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | tired of inheriting other people's problems, paying to insure the thing, and filling up a gas guzzler :) | Apr 03 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm retrofitting a gasoline engine onto my bicycle | Apr 03 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | interesting thing to see will be if I get pulled over on my bike for speeding | Apr 03 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3: I'm going to agree with ender2070 on this | Apr 03 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Getting me to abandon my car and go with a motorized bicycle is definitely part of Agenda 21 | Apr 03 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 21:06 |
| jono | DaemonFC, wise | Apr 03 21:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | I... didnt say anything? | Apr 03 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | jono: My own cousin tried to saddle me with paying her $800 for a car with $3,000 of problems | Apr 03 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | which was worth $1800 in good condition :) | Apr 03 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | can't trust anyone | Apr 03 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | not even family | Apr 03 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | before I took off with it to go get it checked out they're like "Oh, btw, there's no gas in it" | Apr 03 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | so I put about 4 gallons in it assuming I'd have to drive it back down there | Apr 03 21:10 |
| cubezzz | everyone is against you :) | Apr 03 21:10 |
| cubezzz | it's a conspiracy | Apr 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | thinking I might just fire it up and let it idle until it's about out of gas again | Apr 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | so they have to buy their own gas to get back | Apr 03 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | drive around the block 20 or 30 times | Apr 03 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 03 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I think I will | Apr 03 21:11 |
| MinceR | is the gas gauge broken? | Apr 03 21:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] doctest, unittest, and twitter snippets all freshly added. :-) | Apr 03 21:12 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Nope | Apr 03 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | and to paraphrase John Candy from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles (after getting pulled over in the car they burned up with that guy's cigar) | Apr 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | No officer, but the radio is clear as a bell | Apr 03 21:13 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] REALLY getting back into Susanna Hoffs, big style | Apr 03 21:13 | |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 21:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | or Lucy and Ethel :) | Apr 03 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | How fast are we going? | Apr 03 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, the speedometer just spun around a few times and flew off | Apr 03 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 03 21:14 |
| MinceR | what's brown and sounds like a bell? | Apr 03 21:15 |
| MinceR | DUNG! | Apr 03 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: The hicks that owned that car before my cousin ruined it | Apr 03 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | by dogging it and skipping all maintenance | Apr 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | but then they put in a $500 stereo/speaker system | Apr 03 21:16 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | and managed to short out the odometer in doing so | Apr 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | I did manage to fix that :) | Apr 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | I asked my cousin what her friend's husband's plan was | Apr 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | ruin the car and sit in the lawn listening to the stereo? | Apr 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | it defies logic how much those idiots value having a nice stereo in their car that doesn't run | Apr 03 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I mean I'm all for a nice stereo, but if I had the money for that or maintaining the car.... | Apr 03 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why my cousin bought it from them, you can hear that timing chain a mile away | Apr 03 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | and you can't very well miss the smoke coming out of the oil cap when the car heats up | Apr 03 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | even if you know nothing about a car, you can kind of tell that's probably not a good thing | Apr 03 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | And since it's family, I can't even get the satisfaction of shouting "You damned dirty swindler!" | Apr 03 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: You ever felt such frustration? | Apr 03 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | glad I didn't just pay them for it and figure this out later | Apr 03 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of suspected that chain noise was bad | Apr 03 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I didn't | Apr 03 21:23 |
| MinceR | i have | Apr 03 21:24 |
| MinceR | if you mean the frustration at one's own family members being idiots | Apr 03 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Apr 03 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | it makes it worse that you share their genes and are aware of this | Apr 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't it? | Apr 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | that's OK, I'm going to go run that thing out of gas in a bit | Apr 03 21:26 |
| MinceR | or living together with them :> | Apr 03 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | let them figure out how to get home with it | Apr 03 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | well, I don't have to live with family, but if I don't find a way to scuttle some bills soon, I will :( | Apr 03 21:27 |
| *WireWulf is now known as {8}bit | Apr 03 21:28 | |
| *{8}bit is now known as WireWulf | Apr 03 21:28 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Who's blog is this anyway? Off-Topic Comments, and why I kill them. http://bit.ly/c9Z9ya | Apr 03 21:45 | |
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| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Apr 03 21:46 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Anyone know how to return a list of Python modules used by a script? http://is.gd/bd5iW #python | Apr 03 21:47 | |
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| _goblin | hi all | Apr 03 22:05 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, hey! | Apr 03 22:09 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, so now is it true that there'll be no more HBK? | Apr 03 22:10 |
| _goblin | yeah | Apr 03 22:14 |
| _goblin | he's apparently retired for good (according to Wrestling Observer) | Apr 03 22:14 |
| _goblin | and they are usually very accurate | Apr 03 22:14 |
| _goblin | Omar87: Did you see Wrestlemania 26? | Apr 03 22:15 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, nope.. | Apr 03 22:16 |
| _goblin | Omar87: Very good event. | Apr 03 22:16 |
| _goblin | Omar87: and I rarely say that about WWE PPV's | Apr 03 22:16 |
| _goblin | Omar87: it was well worth the £16 on sky box office | Apr 03 22:16 |
| _goblin | Omar87: only shame was, it wasn't in HD | Apr 03 22:17 |
| Omar87 | _goblin: Though as I told you before, Rey Mysterio was definitely going to humiliate CM Skunk and his SES goons. | Apr 03 22:19 |
| Omar87 | Once and for all. | Apr 03 22:19 |
| _goblin | you were right.....I thought he would turn bad guy..... | Apr 03 22:20 |
| _goblin | having said that...theres still time. | Apr 03 22:20 |
| Omar87 | time? | Apr 03 22:21 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, CM Punk is not match for Rey. Even with all the cheating tricks that can come up with. | Apr 03 22:22 |
| Omar87 | no* | Apr 03 22:22 |
| Omar87 | that *he* can come up with | Apr 03 22:22 |
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| _goblin | omar87: I still predict Rey will turn bad guy......he even hinted at it in the WWE Magazine | Apr 03 22:27 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, I don't think so. | Apr 03 22:28 |
| Omar87 | Because if he does, who are they going to attack next? Matt Hardy? Or Chris Jericho? | Apr 03 22:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SUSE and #IBM Cuddle, #Android ’s #Patent Problem in Asia http://boycottnovell.com/2010/04/03/hostages-of-microsoft/ #samsung #lg #linux | Apr 03 22:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] This is going to bug me until I know where it came from http://bit.ly/aUv78h | Apr 03 22:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Novell News Summary – Part I: Matt Berringer at #UKUUG, #OpenSUSE Beego, and FAIL Page http://ur1.ca/t4kb | Apr 03 22:32 | |
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| _goblin | omar87: The straight edge gimmick is a good way to use all the talent which cannot get a top slot and the WWE have no new creative ideas for. | Apr 03 22:33 |
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| Omar87 | _goblin, I'm not sure what he's up to. But I'm almost totally sure they won't succeed at turning Mysterio into their side. | Apr 03 22:36 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: Clair obscur. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/32782.html | Apr 03 22:38 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: reddragdiva | Clair obscur. .::. Size~: 28.36 KB | Apr 03 22:38 |
| _goblin | omar87: lets face it Rey can't really be a viable WWE headliner and they have so much new tallent to promote......Shaemus is getting a push from HHH, you have Edge returning......I don't think theres alot to do with Rey at the moment....Christian is well suited to NXT and I think in hindsight Rey should have been sent there. Don't get me wrong Rey is great its just I don't think theres much of a place for him at the moment. | Apr 03 22:39 |
| _goblin | now over on TNA Rey could be great in the X-division....but the WWE has never had much sucess with its lightwieght divisions. | Apr 03 22:40 |
| _goblin | After Mr Kennedy moved to TNA, I would not be surprised if Rey at least considered it when his contract was up.... | Apr 03 22:42 |
| _goblin | that being said, TNA pulled a VERY poor rating this week (0.6) which is even less than the ECW replacement NXT...which has turned out to be quite popular. | Apr 03 22:43 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, so ECW was NXT? A WWE for the rookies? | Apr 03 22:44 |
| _goblin | Otherway round NXT was ECW.......ECW was cancelled and the new show replaced it. | Apr 03 22:44 |
| Omar87 | Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | Apr 03 22:44 |
| _goblin | its sort of like reality tv/wrestling/gameshow | Apr 03 22:44 |
| Omar87 | I see. | Apr 03 22:45 |
| _goblin | it is actually quite good.... | Apr 03 22:45 |
| Omar87 | NXT is boring, imho. | Apr 03 22:45 |
| _goblin | being an ROH fan....seeing Chris Danielson is great...although insulting that he's treated as a rookie...he's wrestled longer than Miz | Apr 03 22:45 |
| Omar87 | I watched the latest show, and I didn't enjoy it much. | Apr 03 22:45 |
| _goblin | *Bryan Danielson | Apr 03 22:46 |
| Omar87 | I'm currently downloading last week's TNA. | Apr 03 22:47 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Apr 03 22:49 | |
| *schestowitz has changed the topic to: Wrestlemania | Apr 03 22:49 | |
| _goblin | lol | Apr 03 22:50 |
| _goblin | omar87: Its not particularly good..... | Apr 03 22:50 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, really? | Apr 03 22:50 |
| _goblin | for a few weeks it looked like TNA was getting better than WWE....now im not sure..... | Apr 03 22:51 |
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| _goblin | it seems like its going back to the days of WCW v WWE when the WCW was trying so hard to compete. | Apr 03 22:51 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, you think it's not worth my bandwidth? | Apr 03 22:51 |
| _goblin | How much have you d/l'd | Apr 03 22:51 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, not quite sure. | Apr 03 22:52 |
| _goblin | bin it....get smackdown instead....theres a hell of a surprise on it! | Apr 03 22:52 |
| _goblin | you will be shocked. | Apr 03 22:52 |
| Omar87 | But it's probably somewhere between 4 and 7 GB's | Apr 03 22:52 |
| _goblin | 4gb? | Apr 03 22:52 |
| _goblin | you not downloading the Xvid? | Apr 03 22:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Had to spend most of today going "LALALALA" as my 3 year old said "Shh! Daddys birthday tomorrow" then tried to tell me what my present was. | Apr 03 22:52 | |
| _goblin | should only run in at about 800mb | Apr 03 22:52 |
| cubezzz | http://www.wanderinggoblin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Blue-Screen-Soda-Machine.jpg | Apr 03 22:53 |
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| Omar87 | _goblin, yes. I'm downloading the XViD | Apr 03 22:54 |
| _goblin | shouldn't be 4gb..... | Apr 03 22:55 |
| _goblin | should be around 2gb max....even for the HD version | Apr 03 22:55 |
| _goblin | although it depends if you are getting it from Pay to download service or not. | Apr 03 22:55 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, I was talking about my Download limit. | Apr 03 22:55 |
| Omar87 | The video itself is around 740MB | Apr 03 22:56 |
| _goblin | I didn't know that the WWE was available on demand over in your country....although the xvid is always preferable. | Apr 03 22:56 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, demand? | Apr 03 22:57 |
| Omar87 | No, I'm downloading it from ThePirateBay. :) | Apr 03 22:57 |
| _goblin | ah.... | Apr 03 22:57 |
| cubezzz | is that ..... legal? :) | Apr 03 22:58 |
| _goblin | is Smackdown not available on demand? | Apr 03 22:58 |
| Omar87 | I don't think so. | Apr 03 22:58 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: I think its the free previews that he's downloading......I think those promo's are ok. | Apr 03 23:02 |
| _goblin | they are spread on youtube without issue....I think it would be in the WWE's interests since it helps sell the PPV's and DVD's | Apr 03 23:03 |
| _goblin | luckily for me I get them on Sky Sports HD! | Apr 03 23:03 |
| _goblin | fantastic this HD lark......could never be a "normal" tele viewer again. | Apr 03 23:04 |
| _goblin | HD is to TV what Linux is to Windows. | Apr 03 23:04 |
| *schestowitz has changed the topic to: Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of our adversaries | Apr 03 23:12 | |
| _goblin | would that be the "Straight edge society" or Kevin Nash turning on the fans in TNA? | Apr 03 23:28 |
| _goblin | ;) | Apr 03 23:28 |
| _goblin | could we change it to "....including: AJ-Styles, Kevin Nash, Chris Jericho" | Apr 03 23:29 |
| schestowitz | What's TNA? | Apr 03 23:29 |
| _goblin | total nonstop action | Apr 03 23:31 |
| _goblin | its the Linux of the wrestling world....competitor to WWE | Apr 03 23:31 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: you're being Turfed | Apr 03 23:32 |
| schestowitz | "8xSNv-DNzK" | Apr 03 23:32 |
| schestowitz | "Robotron 2084" | Apr 03 23:32 |
| _goblin | ah..... Robotron | Apr 03 23:32 |
| schestowitz | He's nymshifting a lot | Apr 03 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Also abusing people in /.. | Apr 03 23:32 |
| _goblin | yeah he pooped up (sic) today on my site. | Apr 03 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Congrats. Maybe Microsoft assigned what it internally calls "buddies" to you | Apr 03 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Mary Jo Foley told me about Microsoft "buddies" | Apr 03 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | so my mom said that if Gonad The Barbarian doesn't have the money he stole from her when she wins the lawsuit, she's going to ask for his truck and give it to me | Apr 03 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Apr 03 23:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you too | Apr 03 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Newegg | Apr 03 23:33 |
| _goblin | what they don't realize is that comments like his make articles more popular....my site stats show that. | Apr 03 23:33 |
| schestowitz | They seem to be monitoring | Apr 03 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Fast response to your rant | Apr 03 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Like Comcast, similar style | Apr 03 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'll check my referrals | Apr 03 23:34 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Apr 03 23:34 |
| schestowitz | If you find a PR firm, let me know | Apr 03 23:34 |
| schestowitz | They should be shamed | Apr 03 23:34 |
| _goblin | Thanks to Robotron I have recieved 200 xtra readers for that article. | Apr 03 23:34 |
| schestowitz | How so? | Apr 03 23:34 |
| _goblin | because my regulars check back on the articles repeatedly if there is a debate going on. | Apr 03 23:35 |
| _goblin | otherwise they read once then move on. | Apr 03 23:35 |
| _goblin | (or thats what my stats show) | Apr 03 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Maybe he and Andre are alike | Apr 03 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Two Turfers | Apr 03 23:35 |
| schestowitz | One defends another | Apr 03 23:35 |
| _goblin | whoever it is I welcome them.....it spikes my readership...... | Apr 03 23:36 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: but stats are for UIPs | Apr 03 23:36 |
| _goblin | on a 24 hour basis | Apr 03 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I no longer follow stats, I can't even | Apr 03 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: s8-us2.ixquick.com/do/metasearch.pl | Apr 03 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I'm waiting for tessier_ now | Apr 03 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I hope to move the site to the new domain this weekend. We just need a simple 301 redirect rule | Apr 03 23:36 |
| _goblin | I am on course for doubling my total UIP's in the last 3 months alone....I must be doing something right....theres certainly a few people who enjoy reading. | Apr 03 23:37 |
| schestowitz | Then I can submit the change to Google | Apr 03 23:37 |
| schestowitz | http://ixquick.com/ | Apr 03 23:37 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Only odd referral I have in the last week | Apr 03 23:38 |
| schestowitz | I never heard of this engine. | Apr 03 23:38 |
| schestowitz | http://ixquick.com/do/metasearch.pl | Apr 03 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | maybe one of those spy things uses it? | Apr 03 23:38 |
| MinceR | it's a decent metasearch engine | Apr 03 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's private | Apr 03 23:38 |
| MinceR | it's a pity that the engines it can use are weak | Apr 03 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Claims high privacy | Apr 03 23:38 |
| schestowitz | I can't even link to a SERP | Apr 03 23:38 |
| MinceR | so it gives worse results than google/scroogle | Apr 03 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | and what do spy outfits want? | Apr 03 23:39 |
| schestowitz | So you can't see what was searched for | Apr 03 23:39 |
| MinceR | scroogle uses POST to obscure search terms from Referers, too | Apr 03 23:39 |
| _goblin | can't you just use incognito or something similar? | Apr 03 23:39 |
| MinceR | obviously the best method would be using fake Referer strings | Apr 03 23:39 |
| MinceR | via privoxy or such | Apr 03 23:40 |
| _goblin | Roy, Im going to have to change the BN gfx link on my site to TechRights...... | Apr 03 23:40 |
| MinceR | hm, there are firefox extensions to deal with this, apparently | Apr 03 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmm.. | Apr 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.digitalmajority.org/editors | Apr 03 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't know I was listed as an editor there | Apr 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: thanks, you don't *have* to though, BN still will exist | Apr 03 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Heh. This one is still alive: http://www.newassignment.net/blog/schestowitz | Apr 03 23:43 |
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| Omar87 | LOL! MVP = Most Valuable Hypocrite. :P | Apr 03 23:44 |
| _goblin | Schestowitz: I like the name change, I think its a very good idea and properly represents the site as it has become now. | Apr 03 23:44 |
| _goblin | BN does not represent the depth of the site anymore. | Apr 03 23:45 |
| _goblin | or diversity should I say. | Apr 03 23:45 |
| _goblin | I am so pleased I chose a generic name for mine, I have the scope to pretty much write about anything without the title implying otherwise...... | Apr 03 23:46 |
| MinceR | so is it TechRights or Free Software Sentry now? | Apr 03 23:46 |
| _goblin | TR gets my vote | Apr 03 23:46 |
| schestowitz | Classic quote: "He [Bill Gates] acted like a spoiled kid, which is what he was." we need more such quotes... | Apr 03 23:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] LOL! MVP = Most Valuable Hypocrite. :P #microsoft #mvp #hypocrisy | Apr 03 23:46 | |
| _goblin | thats good...welldone Omar! | Apr 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: some people hate the new name | Apr 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | But we also cover patents | Apr 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | Even medical ones | Apr 03 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Should I go for NiMH or Lead Acid? | Apr 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | So software in the name would be limiting | Apr 03 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | batteries for a bicycle motor | Apr 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | The name was tessier_'s idea | Apr 03 23:47 |
| _goblin | Techrights to me suggests the challenging of any wrongs in respect of tech.....I think it sums the site up nicely. | Apr 03 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | I may go with the electric instead of gasoline | Apr 03 23:47 |
| schestowitz | The heading is RMS' idea | Apr 03 23:48 |
| schestowitz | We swapped about 20 E-mails over the past week | Apr 03 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe 30 | Apr 03 23:48 |
| _goblin | I would love to meet RMS one day. | Apr 03 23:48 |
| _goblin | maybe if he is in the UK. | Apr 03 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | although it's not like 1 gallon per 150 miles is the worst thing ever, a gas engine is still less reliable, heavier, harder to service, etc. | Apr 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: scientes/fewa moved to bicycles to | Apr 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | *too | Apr 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | More green | Apr 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: depends what one means by "Rights" | Apr 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | RMS thinks it's like the "DRM" interpretation of "rights" | Apr 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | Like ability to access | Apr 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | But it can be about rights and wrongs, as one reader from NZ suggested | Apr 03 23:49 |
| _goblin | but the DRM is also the right of the IP owner to release their material in any form they wish | Apr 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | He made the Wiki graphics | Apr 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | The logo we have is interim | Apr 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Eruaran works on a new one | Apr 03 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I also have the concern that a two stroke engine right under the seat would make the ride.....unpleasant? | Apr 03 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: impotence | Apr 03 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | two lead acid batteries could get me about 25 miles | Apr 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Not a concern to you, fertility is to those who reproduce | Apr 03 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | even if I never peddled | Apr 03 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | on an 8 hour charge | Apr 03 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | at 18 miles per hour | Apr 03 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's just a myth | Apr 03 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Room for scepticism, correlation vs causation | Apr 03 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | the gas engine could get me 150 miles per gallon at 40 miles per hour | Apr 03 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe bikers use steroids, maybe that's why they are impotent | Apr 03 23:51 |
| _goblin | oi! | Apr 03 23:51 |
| _goblin | Im a biker | Apr 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Bicycle? | Apr 03 23:52 |
| _goblin | and ive three kids... | Apr 03 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: If it was just the how far could I get on what type of fuel, I'd go with gasoline | Apr 03 23:52 |
| _goblin | motorcycle | Apr 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | That's different | Apr 03 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | but there's other considerations | Apr 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Big cushion | Apr 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | He probably rides a Harley Davidson | Apr 03 23:52 |
| _goblin | Ive an R1.....couldn't imagine that running on batteries. | Apr 03 23:52 |
| Omar87 | Is there a decent way I can hook Google Adsense to a Wordpress blog? | Apr 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Cowboy hat, goatie beard... the whole deal | Apr 03 23:53 |
| _goblin | lol | Apr 03 23:53 |
| _goblin | cowboy hat looks silly ontop of a crash helmet though | Apr 03 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't mind having some lithium ion batteries for the thing | Apr 03 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | those would be a fortune if they even make them I'm sure | Apr 03 23:53 |
| *MinceR tries the RefControl extension for Firefox | Apr 03 23:53 | |
| *schestowitz only tried a motorcycle twice... in a parking garage | Apr 03 23:54 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've only ever driven two vehicles battery powered | Apr 03 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | both were forklifts | Apr 03 23:54 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 23:54 |
| schestowitz | I was 17 and had only earned my driver's licence | Apr 03 23:54 |
| Omar87 | Alright. | Apr 03 23:54 |
| Omar87 | Buenas noches everyone! | Apr 03 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | order picker lifts are actually pretty fun to drive | Apr 03 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | Adios | Apr 03 23:55 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I have some video for you | Apr 03 23:55 |
| MinceR | what's an 'order picker lift'? | Apr 03 23:55 |
| schestowitz | http://ia331428.us.archive.org/1/items/freespeechtv_sourcecode209/sc209.ogv?freespeechtv_sourcecode209/sc209.ogv | Apr 03 23:55 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Apr 03 23:55 |
| schestowitz | http://nomoredeaths.org/ | Apr 03 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: forks are on the back, you pick up an empty pallet with them and go to your picking locations | Apr 03 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | you go up with the rest of the platform | Apr 03 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | the lift is drive by wire | Apr 03 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | you flip a switch and it locks onto the wire in that aisle and your joystick can still go back and forward | Apr 03 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | but your steering is shut off until you leave the aisle or flip off the switch | Apr 03 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 23:56 |
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| DaemonFC | the beeping noise it makes while it locks onto the wire is really cool | Apr 03 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | it sounds like you're playing space invaders or something B-) | Apr 03 23:57 |
| _goblin | is an order picker really a practical way to get about? | Apr 03 23:57 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 03 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: If you have orders to pick, yes | Apr 03 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | in my case, I had a computer mounted on the thing with a wifi connection and a bar code scanner | Apr 03 23:58 |
| _goblin | can't say you are selling the idea to me, Im happier with my TT...or my bike which can both pick orders at Mcdonnalds drive in very easily thank you very much. | Apr 03 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | steering wheel, and joystick which controls speed, direction, and lift/lower | Apr 03 23:58 |
| _goblin | yeah.... | Apr 03 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | the computer handled inventory but also had a card reader | Apr 03 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | I could play my music off an SD card through the internal speaker | Apr 03 23:59 |
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