| DaemonFC | that was kind of neat | Apr 04 00:00 |
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| _goblin | sorry, have I missed something....has there been a rush of demand for people wanting a joystick operated vehicle? or am I missing part of the conversation? | Apr 04 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | I liked it | Apr 04 00:00 |
| _goblin | yeah. | Apr 04 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | what confuses me is the demand for CNG as a fuel for cars | Apr 04 00:01 |
| cubezzz | so far my quest for a used sparc machine has been disappointing | Apr 04 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | Why would anyone want that? | Apr 04 00:01 |
| _goblin | yeah me too......can't understand it myself....... | Apr 04 00:02 |
| cubezzz | CNG? | Apr 04 00:02 |
| _goblin | agree | Apr 04 00:02 |
| _goblin | its simpler | Apr 04 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Compressed Natural Gas | Apr 04 00:02 |
| _goblin | thats the one. | Apr 04 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | they're trying to open up ethanol refineries and coal gassification plants in Indiana | Apr 04 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | so the state government is subsidizing all this shit | Apr 04 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | bribing people to buy CNG powered Hondas and such | Apr 04 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Ethanol compatible vehicles too | Apr 04 00:03 |
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| _goblin | hi sebsebseb! | Apr 04 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: It's more efficient to burn gasoline than most of these "alternative fuels" | Apr 04 00:04 |
| sebsebseb | _goblin: hi | Apr 04 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | and it's better for the environment too! :) | Apr 04 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | I think the answer is clear | Apr 04 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | nuclear reactors | Apr 04 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | a nuclear powerplant in every car | Apr 04 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | "No user-serviceable parts inside" | Apr 04 00:06 |
| MinceR | most of "those alternative fuels" only release carbon that was recently harvested, not from fossil sources :> | Apr 04 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's not true | Apr 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.adjb.net/post/Microsoft-Fails-the-Standards-Test.aspx " | Apr 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Now I'm intrigued. How, procedurally, would a corporation like Microsoft go about withdawing OOXML? | Apr 04 00:07 |
| schestowitz | Read more: http://www.adjb.net/post/Microsoft-Fails-the-Standards-Test.aspx#ixzz0k56rMfWc | Apr 04 00:07 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Where is there an end of it? | Microsoft Fails the Standards Test .::. Size~: 228.35 KB | Apr 04 00:07 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Where is there an end of it? | Microsoft Fails the Standards Test .::. Size~: 228.35 KB | Apr 04 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | they expend more energy from fossil fuels in the process of making them, than the resulting "alternative fuel" provides | Apr 04 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They're making the ethanol from corn because it justifies high corn prices | Apr 04 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | they're not growing fast growing grass to cut down and ferment | Apr 04 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | I would be fine with that | Apr 04 00:08 |
| MinceR | they're doing it wrong | Apr 04 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | no, they have no interest in sustainability | Apr 04 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's just a sweetheart government deal | Apr 04 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | involving bribes all around | Apr 04 00:09 |
| _goblin | daemonfc: I think the answer is with dylithium crystals. | Apr 04 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: But what if.... | Apr 04 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | she just can't take it | Apr 04 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | and she breaks apart? | Apr 04 00:10 |
| _goblin | damn..... | Apr 04 00:10 |
| MinceR | reverse the polarity. | Apr 04 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | then what? | Apr 04 00:10 |
| _goblin | you got that one. | Apr 04 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 04 00:10 |
| _goblin | what about..... | Apr 04 00:10 |
| _goblin | the infinate improbability drive | Apr 04 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | then the other people in traffic turn into dolphins? | Apr 04 00:11 |
| _goblin | now that doesn't use fossil fuels | Apr 04 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 00:11 |
| _goblin | or a ball of wool | Apr 04 00:11 |
| _goblin | can't think of any more scifi related engines. | Apr 04 00:12 |
| _goblin | oh yes.... | Apr 04 00:12 |
| _goblin | transwarp drive | Apr 04 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | "She just can't take it captain, she's breaking herself apart and Ford put the water pump behind everything. It's a three hour job and shop markups on the part!" | Apr 04 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 04 00:13 |
| _goblin | here's one......(no checking google) who developed the tech to travell through 3rd space? | Apr 04 00:13 |
| _goblin | come on.... | Apr 04 00:13 |
| _goblin | one word | Apr 04 00:13 |
| _goblin | no google | Apr 04 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | Vorlons | Apr 04 00:13 |
| _goblin | lol | Apr 04 00:13 |
| _goblin | cheater | Apr 04 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Apr 04 00:13 |
| _goblin | why did it take you so long | Apr 04 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | the artifact was speaking to me | Apr 04 00:14 |
| _goblin | ;) | Apr 04 00:14 |
| MinceR | how about putting batteries or fuel cells in the cars and charging them with (stationary) power plants using renewable energy sources? | Apr 04 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | it told me of a catfight between Ivanova and that other woman | Apr 04 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | it tried to corrupt me and failed | Apr 04 00:14 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Thanks for all the fish, Luca Longinotti http://chtekk.longitekk.com/index.php?/archives/42-Retiring-from-Gentoo.html | Apr 04 00:14 | |
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| _goblin | Even roy's getting into the spirit of our sci-fi theme | Apr 04 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Then there was the Victory and Excalibur | Apr 04 00:15 |
| _goblin | yep.....didn't like the technomages...thought they were silly | Apr 04 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | they did a lousy job at explaining the weakness of the super weapon though | Apr 04 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 00:16 |
| _goblin | did they ever finish Excalibur? | Apr 04 00:16 |
| _goblin | I think I only ever saw one series. | Apr 04 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Victory was destroyed in the battle with the Drakh fleet in Earth space | Apr 04 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | Sheridan was in command of the Excalibur | Apr 04 00:16 |
| _goblin | might have to order the dvd set from the store (providing its still available) | Apr 04 00:17 |
| _goblin | I am still tackling my battlestar box set..... | Apr 04 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | the Drakh destroyed the shipyard that built the Victory class ships on their retreat from our space | Apr 04 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | after poisoning Earth with the nanotech virus | Apr 04 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | so Excalibur was one of a kind after this :) | Apr 04 00:17 |
| _goblin | with Vorlon tech if memory serves. | Apr 04 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | which led to the Crusade spinoff | Apr 04 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | which was cancelledbefore airing | Apr 04 00:18 |
| _goblin | I prefered the shadows..... | Apr 04 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | and TNT showed the 16 produced episodes in the wrong order | Apr 04 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | motherfuckers | Apr 04 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: The Technomages were created by the Shadows | Apr 04 00:19 |
| _goblin | it was always convenient how human doorways babylon 5 where just wide enough to accomodate the shoulder pads of the vorlons | Apr 04 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | the tech they use is based on Shadow design | Apr 04 00:19 |
| _goblin | are you sure, I thought it was Minbari/Vorlon | Apr 04 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Apr 04 00:20 |
| _goblin | I remember the shadow hybrid earth ships towards the end of the Babylon 5 series...... | Apr 04 00:20 |
| _goblin | but they looked part shadow | Apr 04 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | my favorite ships were the Advanced Omega Destroyer | Apr 04 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | but the Warlock class was based on Shadow tech as well | Apr 04 00:20 |
| _goblin | the excalibur looked Vorlon when it fired its primary weapon. | Apr 04 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | and those were impressive too | Apr 04 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | the Warlock weapons were less powerful than the Advanced Omega, but they didn't need a rotating section to provide artificial gravity | Apr 04 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | so neither has a clear advantage really | Apr 04 00:22 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 04 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | if the rotating section on the Omega was disabled in a firefight, the crew would have no gravity of course | Apr 04 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | but powerful weapons are nice | Apr 04 00:22 |
| _goblin | ok....question of the day..... | Apr 04 00:23 |
| _goblin | Borg V Shadow....who would win? | Apr 04 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | tough one | Apr 04 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | depends on the size of the Borg force | Apr 04 00:23 |
| _goblin | borg cube V shadow destroyer | Apr 04 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | The Shadows would have the initial advantage, but the Borg adapt | Apr 04 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | ahhhh | Apr 04 00:24 |
| _goblin | keeping in mind that the borg got whipped by the species from fluidic space. | Apr 04 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | the Shadows | Apr 04 00:24 |
| _goblin | I agree. | Apr 04 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | they can use the tactic of warping back into hyperspace if needs be | Apr 04 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | popping back out elsewhere | Apr 04 00:24 |
| _goblin | Vorlon V Tholian | Apr 04 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | another tough one | Apr 04 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to say draw | Apr 04 00:25 |
| _goblin | and finally.... | Apr 04 00:25 |
| _goblin | Naan V Empire | Apr 04 00:25 |
| _goblin | Narn | Apr 04 00:25 |
| _goblin | Equal size fleets | Apr 04 00:25 |
| _goblin | I would say Narn only because the weaponary seemed more advanced than the Empire | Apr 04 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | well, they can use the beam weapons as a slicing tool | Apr 04 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | and that's not how energy weapons in the Star Trek universe operate :) | Apr 04 00:26 |
| _goblin | oh and I think the Vorlons would win.....Tholian ships weaponary is limited and remember the vorlons had the planet killer | Apr 04 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | but the energy shields on Imperial ships might balance things out | Apr 04 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | depends on if the Narn figure out how to bring down their shields | Apr 04 00:27 |
| _goblin | how did we get on to this? | Apr 04 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | *shrug* | Apr 04 00:27 |
| _goblin | Ballmer V Obama | Apr 04 00:27 |
| _goblin | Im going with Obama | Apr 04 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | not a valid question | Apr 04 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Ballmer contributed to Obama | Apr 04 00:28 |
| _goblin | we are being hypothetical and considering we've just been talking about sci-fi battles from two different brands I think anything goes. | Apr 04 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | of course in the political world, that doesn't make an ally | Apr 04 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | it makes a threat | Apr 04 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | serve us or your contribs go to your opponent next time | Apr 04 00:28 |
| _goblin | I still have a soft spot for Sarah Palin.. | Apr 04 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | I still want to move to the Real America | Apr 04 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | sounds cozy | Apr 04 00:29 |
| _goblin | In the UK she could never be demonized.....the media doesn't do that to attractive people. | Apr 04 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | she's a villain | Apr 04 00:30 |
| _goblin | Im sure....but she's still a fine looking woman | Apr 04 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't the UK villainize villains? | Apr 04 00:31 |
| _goblin | Not usually if they are attractive.....doesn't make for good paper headlines | Apr 04 00:31 |
| _goblin | I can't believe I missed Dr Who.... | Apr 04 00:33 |
| _goblin | I was at work when it was on..... | Apr 04 00:33 |
| _goblin | :( | Apr 04 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | never really watched it | Apr 04 00:33 |
| _goblin | shame on you! | Apr 04 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | they tried to Americanize it once | Apr 04 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | didn't survive past the pilot | Apr 04 00:34 |
| _goblin | yeah I saw that... | Apr 04 00:34 |
| _goblin | what an insult. | Apr 04 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | same with Red Dwarf | Apr 04 00:34 |
| _goblin | yeah I heard that too. | Apr 04 00:34 |
| _goblin | bad? | Apr 04 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | there's a pilot for an American Red Dwarf out there | Apr 04 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | extremely bad | Apr 04 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | especially the American version of Lister | Apr 04 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | the actor was terrible at it | Apr 04 00:34 |
| _goblin | I think the big mistake Red Dwarf in the UK made was having CGI in the later series....the whole charm and funnyness of Red Dwarft was that the creatures looked so tacky, silly and fake. | Apr 04 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | I think my favorite Red Dwarf thing ever was the Suicide Squid | Apr 04 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | that was funny | Apr 04 00:35 |
| _goblin | The Mutton Vindaloo curry beast could never have worked in CGI | Apr 04 00:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla fights for #Ogg and now fight against #Flash http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/02/mozilla_no_flash_plans/ I like! | Apr 04 00:35 | |
| DaemonFC | I still laugh about that now and then | Apr 04 00:35 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Mozilla: 'no plans' to bundle Flash with Firefox • The Register .::. Size~: 22.86 KB | Apr 04 00:35 |
| _goblin | "Duane Dibley" | Apr 04 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | and one triple thick condom | Apr 04 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | you never know! | Apr 04 00:36 |
| _goblin | you never know | Apr 04 00:36 |
| _goblin | damn | Apr 04 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 04 00:36 |
| _goblin | "What a guy...." | Apr 04 00:36 |
| cubezzz | it's not easy finding a good non-x86 machine | Apr 04 00:36 |
| DaemonFC | Ace Rimmer! | Apr 04 00:36 |
| _goblin | Rimmer is great.... | Apr 04 00:37 |
| _goblin | have you seen the latest xmas movie? | Apr 04 00:37 |
| cubezzz | I remember the pilot episode "The End" | Apr 04 00:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | o/~ Goldfish nibbling at your toes o/~ | Apr 04 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Ace Rimmer, the polar opposite of the underachieving weasel Rimmer | Apr 04 00:37 |
| cubezzz | or at least I think that was the pilot | Apr 04 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | that was hilarious to see them side by side | Apr 04 00:37 |
| _goblin | a 3 parter that came out christmas just gone.....they return to earth in present day..... | Apr 04 00:37 |
| cubezzz | is Red Dwarf still in production? | Apr 04 00:38 |
| _goblin | yep | Apr 04 00:38 |
| cubezzz | came out in the 80's didn't it? | Apr 04 00:38 |
| _goblin | theres a movie coming apparently | Apr 04 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: But who ever heard of a wormskin rug? ;) | Apr 04 00:38 |
| _goblin | lol.... | Apr 04 00:38 |
| _goblin | cant remember which episode that came from | Apr 04 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | Reminds me of a quote I once heard "Eagles may soar, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines" | Apr 04 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 00:38 |
| cubezzz | Eddy the Eagle :) | Apr 04 00:39 |
| _goblin | Still love the quote "If you don't gosub a program loop,you'll never get a subroutine."" | Apr 04 00:39 |
| _goblin | Android for "nothing ventured nothing gained" | Apr 04 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | our version is catchier ;) | Apr 04 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Kryton | Apr 04 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | the "bog bot from hell" | Apr 04 00:40 |
| _goblin | with a head shaped like a novelty condom | Apr 04 00:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw | Apr 04 00:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | I thought they canceled the movie | Apr 04 00:40 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Next #Ubuntu looks kind of neat, if only they actually used #Firefox with its default SE.. http://ur1.ca/t4v6 | Apr 04 00:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | _goblin: I actually got in trouble in the 3rd grade for calling someone "Dingleberry breath" | Apr 04 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | lmao | Apr 04 00:41 |
| _goblin | Diablo-D3, they may well have....Ive been out of the sci-fi loop for a bit | Apr 04 00:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: oh smeg. | Apr 04 00:41 |
| cubezzz | ok, now I feel old | Apr 04 00:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | so do I | Apr 04 00:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | thanks assholes | Apr 04 00:41 |
| _goblin | So did I 5 years ago | Apr 04 00:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: christ, you already have one foot in the grave then | Apr 04 00:41 |
| cubezzz | I still have "Confidence and Paranoid" on VHS :) | Apr 04 00:42 |
| _goblin | yeah.....gives me a good excuse though to wear bad clothes and be miserable in public | Apr 04 00:42 |
| cubezzz | somewhere | Apr 04 00:42 |
| _goblin | Off topic - "Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of our adversaries" Im not sure I like that. | Apr 04 00:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol vhs | Apr 04 00:42 |
| _goblin | its suggests paranoia | Apr 04 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | free software sentry - the fox news of the open source community | Apr 04 00:43 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, they want $200 for c64's on ebay now | Apr 04 00:43 |
| *Diablo-D3 snickers | Apr 04 00:43 | |
| cubezzz | it's becoming expensive again | Apr 04 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: wow, thats gone up | Apr 04 00:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | its cheaper to just, you know, DOWNLOAD AN EMULATOR | Apr 04 00:43 |
| cubezzz | not the same | Apr 04 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Where Lister came down with some mutated flu and it caused his confidence and paranoia to materialize as people? | Apr 04 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | yep, remember that one | Apr 04 00:44 |
| _goblin | DaemonFC, yeah I remember that..... | Apr 04 00:44 |
| cubezzz | without the clicking 1541 that takes 10 years to load something ;-0 | Apr 04 00:44 |
| _goblin | DaemonFC, the other time Lister was ill was the Space Mumps issue, when his head exploded over the cat. | Apr 04 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | the wax world one was pretty good too | Apr 04 00:45 |
| cubezzz | I have vice of course | Apr 04 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | where they lynched Winnie the Pooh at the Evil fortress | Apr 04 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | of course they forgot to have a wax Dick Cheney there | Apr 04 00:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I hate the new YouTube user interface. I've begun moving to archive.org (ogg heaven) | Apr 04 00:45 | |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Apr 04 00:45 |
| cubezzz | haha, that was a funny episode | Apr 04 00:46 |
| schestowitz | Really? | Apr 04 00:46 |
| schestowitz | That bad? | Apr 04 00:46 |
| cubezzz | I hope no one taped over it | Apr 04 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: Talk about a load off your mind! | Apr 04 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 04 00:46 |
| _goblin | yeah....as we would say in London......"that was well minging" | Apr 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | the Cat has green chunks all over him | Apr 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 00:47 |
| *schestowitz has changed the topic to: sci-fi | Apr 04 00:47 | |
| _goblin | thought they were yellow | Apr 04 00:47 |
| DaemonFC | maybe they were | Apr 04 00:47 |
| *schestowitz gives channel operator status to _goblin | Apr 04 00:47 | |
| _goblin | lol | Apr 04 00:47 |
| schestowitz | Feel free to change it | Apr 04 00:47 |
| schestowitz | with /topic <name> | Apr 04 00:47 |
| *_goblin has changed the topic to: Talk about anything as long as it's Sci-Fi or wrestling | Apr 04 00:48 | |
| *ChanServ has changed the topic to: sci-fi | Apr 04 00:48 | |
| *ChanServ removes channel operator status from _goblin | Apr 04 00:48 | |
| _goblin | boo | Apr 04 00:48 |
| _goblin | tease | Apr 04 00:48 |
| cubezzz | it's old timers reminiscing nite | Apr 04 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Weird | Apr 04 00:48 |
| _goblin | Next up will be the Amiga | Apr 04 00:48 |
| *schestowitz has changed the topic to: "Talk about anything as long as it's Sci-Fi or wrestling" | Apr 04 00:48 | |
| _goblin | :) | Apr 04 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Fake (April Fool's) coverage leads to fake/false headlines: http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/direct2dell/archive/2010/04/02/april-fools-amp-rumors.aspx http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/DigiTimes-report-on-netbook-plans/ | Apr 04 00:49 |
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| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Are HP and Dell giving up on netbooks? - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.12 KB | Apr 04 00:49 |
| _goblin | and what about "or Sarah Palin" | Apr 04 00:49 |
| cubezzz | I was playing a bit of Impossible Mission the other day | Apr 04 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Mission Impossible? | Apr 04 00:49 |
| schestowitz | Mission: Impossible? | Apr 04 00:49 |
| _goblin | N64 ver? | Apr 04 00:49 |
| cubezzz | no, c64 version :) | Apr 04 00:50 |
| _goblin | hang on...Imp mission is an 8bit title | Apr 04 00:50 |
| cubezzz | I told you I'm old :) | Apr 04 00:50 |
| _goblin | I think I had it on spectrum | Apr 04 00:50 |
| schestowitz | http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4160 http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4160.mp3 | Apr 04 00:50 |
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| _goblin | I remember my first ever full price game I bought..... | Apr 04 00:50 |
| _goblin | Horace and the Spiders | Apr 04 00:50 |
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| cubezzz | _goblin, there's a new version for Wii or however it's spelled | Apr 04 00:50 |
| _goblin | I think it was £6.99 | Apr 04 00:51 |
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| phIRCe-BNcom | Hello World! | Apr 04 00:51 |
| _goblin | and that was alot then | Apr 04 00:51 |
| _goblin | ah the whole series was good | Apr 04 00:51 |
| _goblin | Hungry Horace | Apr 04 00:51 |
| _goblin | Horace goes Skiing | Apr 04 00:51 |
| _goblin | I think I had Jetpac included when I bought my spectrum | Apr 04 00:52 |
| cubezzz | wasn't there a BBC Micro or something? | Apr 04 00:52 |
| _goblin | yeah, never had one though | Apr 04 00:53 |
| _goblin | we did at school | Apr 04 00:53 |
| _goblin | red function keys if memory serves | Apr 04 00:53 |
| _goblin | 32k memory | Apr 04 00:53 |
| cubezzz | similar to a c64 I guess | Apr 04 00:53 |
| _goblin | 5 1/4 drive | Apr 04 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ik6vk4Om8sOQ-FN0NLHWbZz7bUBgD9ERQOQG1 | Apr 04 00:53 |
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| _goblin | very good version of Elite too. | Apr 04 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | Look what the Jesus Bunny left here mommy!!! | Apr 04 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | I got dibs on the wallet! | Apr 04 00:54 |
| schestowitz | They found a buddy | Apr 04 00:54 |
| schestowitz | That's nice | Apr 04 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Seasons for friendship | Apr 04 00:54 |
| cubezzz | that reminds me, I never got a chocolate bunny this year | Apr 04 00:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fewt.com/2010/04/system-security-what-about-your-data.html Well, duh | Apr 04 00:56 |
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| DaemonFC | "He was screaming something about God and Jesus when we cut his face off" | Apr 04 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Screamers :) | Apr 04 00:56 |
| cubezzz | store's open until 11pm though | Apr 04 00:56 |
| cubezzz | ugh | Apr 04 00:56 |
| cubezzz | what sort of movies are you watching DaemonFC? | Apr 04 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Screamers | Apr 04 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | 1995 | Apr 04 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 00:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: was it you? | Apr 04 00:57 |
| schestowitz | "(AP) – 2 hours ago" | Apr 04 00:57 |
| schestowitz | "The man's name hasn't been released pending notification of his family." | Apr 04 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | the Type II and III Screamers could cut a person's face off and wear it | Apr 04 00:57 |
| schestowitz | You came here about 2 hours ago | Apr 04 00:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you watched too much "Silence of the Lamb" | Apr 04 00:58 |
| schestowitz | BTW, my relative directed Hannibal | Apr 04 00:58 |
| cubezzz | I haven't went to the movies in a long time | Apr 04 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Dr. Lecter in Silence of the Lambs cut that guard's face off and used it to get out in the ambulance | Apr 04 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | rmember? | Apr 04 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Seen that too obviously | Apr 04 00:58 |
| cubezzz | that sounds rather implausible | Apr 04 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | and Red Dragon | Apr 04 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | and Hannibal | Apr 04 00:58 |
| _goblin | never liked those type of movies | Apr 04 00:59 |
| cubezzz | if someone really cut off a guy's face and tried to wear it, it would be 100% obvious | Apr 04 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | "Buffalo Bill" | Apr 04 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again. | Apr 04 00:59 |
| schestowitz | He also directed Red Dragon | Apr 04 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 00:59 |
| cubezzz | but that's the movies | Apr 04 00:59 |
| schestowitz | But nothing compared to the original | Apr 04 00:59 |
| schestowitz | Sequels usually suck | Apr 04 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | not always | Apr 04 01:00 |
| cubezzz | Empire Strikes Back was a good sequel | Apr 04 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't say these sucked | Apr 04 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | just not as good as the first one | Apr 04 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Yes, but Lucas was smart enough to do an open ended story taking place in a broader "universe" | Apr 04 01:01 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: I would disagree......the empire was too open ended, didn't have the feel good of good guy over bad guy that new hope did. | Apr 04 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | so he could milk and franchise forever | Apr 04 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Turns out he also did X-Men | Apr 04 01:01 |
| cubezzz | well... | Apr 04 01:01 |
| cubezzz | i thought it was good | Apr 04 01:01 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: AmazingAtheist does a list of good sequels | Apr 04 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Let me find it | Apr 04 01:01 |
| cubezzz | but it's only Star Wars after all | Apr 04 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | the worst thing they did to Star Wars was turn the Wookies into Ewoks | Apr 04 01:01 |
| cubezzz | it was a big deal when I was a lot younger | Apr 04 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | on the forest moon of Endor :) | Apr 04 01:02 |
| _goblin | back to the future seemed to retain the charm of the original whilst improving on it. | Apr 04 01:02 |
| cubezzz | yes, I liked that one too | Apr 04 01:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgu4cyzHv8 | Apr 04 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Wookies are cool | Apr 04 01:02 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- Sequels Kinda Suck .::. Size~: 83.78 KB | Apr 04 01:02 |
| _goblin | Home alone...theres a cracking set of sequals | Apr 04 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ewoks kicking stormtrooper ass, unbelievable | Apr 04 01:02 |
| cubezzz | I kind of liked War Games too :) | Apr 04 01:02 |
| cubezzz | and Tron naturally | Apr 04 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Bruce Boxleitner | Apr 04 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Apr 04 01:03 |
| _goblin | Rocky | Apr 04 01:03 |
| cubezzz | that's even older :) | Apr 04 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: Here's one for you | Apr 04 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | if you could hafve any "conventional" handheld weapon of sci-fi, what would it be? | Apr 04 01:04 |
| cubezzz | phaser | Apr 04 01:04 |
| _goblin | good question.... | Apr 04 01:04 |
| cubezzz | actually I have a phase prop :) | Apr 04 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | Gauss rifle from Fallout | Apr 04 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 01:04 |
| _goblin | does it have to be from a sci-fi series? | Apr 04 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | _goblin: yes | Apr 04 01:05 |
| _goblin | if not then the cerebral bore from Turok | Apr 04 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | that counts | Apr 04 01:05 |
| _goblin | thats my choice then. | Apr 04 01:05 |
| _goblin | everyone's got a brain......like to see any sci-fi villain get away from that weapon | Apr 04 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Gadgets from old sci-fi films look worse than today's tech | Apr 04 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Watch Mr. Data's PDA for example | Apr 04 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Primitive and oversized | Apr 04 01:06 |
| schestowitz | Give him an Android PDA | Apr 04 01:06 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.worldlabel.com/2010/unleash-your-inner-old-master-with-mypaint-open-source.html | Apr 04 01:06 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Open Source painting with MyPaint | Worldlabel Blog .::. Size~: 31.74 KB | Apr 04 01:06 |
| _goblin | thats an encouraging sign that maybe we will get some of the cool innovations today...the holodeck for starters. | Apr 04 01:06 |
| _goblin | MS have already patented that idea though...I covered it on Openbytes about a year ago | Apr 04 01:06 |
| cubezzz | I liked the original tricorder, even though I still don't know what it was supposed it do :) | Apr 04 01:07 |
| _goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/microsoft-to-boldly-blow/ | Apr 04 01:08 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Microsoft To boldly blow&. « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 30.95 KB | Apr 04 01:08 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know DJ BoBo was Swiss. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_BoBo | Apr 04 01:09 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: DJ BoBo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 92.33 KB | Apr 04 01:09 |
| schestowitz | I thought he was German | Apr 04 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | TNG? more than 20 years old | Apr 04 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | of course it looks dated | Apr 04 01:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Been talking Sci-Fi on BN IRC...reminds me of my article http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/microsoft-to-boldly-blow/ #microsoft | Apr 04 01:10 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Microsoft To boldly blow&. « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 31.06 KB | Apr 04 01:10 |
| schestowitz | YouTube added queue functionality now | Apr 04 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Still, it stinks | Apr 04 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Downloaders with greasemonkey don't work either | Apr 04 01:14 |
| schestowitz | How am I supposed to make oggs for BN now? | Apr 04 01:14 |
| cubezzz | you can't download at all? | Apr 04 01:14 |
| schestowitz | I need to find another route | Apr 04 01:14 |
| _goblin | a youtube queue? Ive been waiting for that it will be better to watch Steptoe and Son episodes without having to load in each part manually. | Apr 04 01:14 |
| schestowitz | They keep changing/moving goalposts | Apr 04 01:14 |
| cubezzz | have you tried youtube-dl script? | Apr 04 01:14 |
| schestowitz | Not yet | Apr 04 01:15 |
| _goblin | and I hope everyone watches steptoe and son...classic uk comedy | Apr 04 01:15 |
| schestowitz | I've used like 4 methods over the years | Apr 04 01:15 |
| schestowitz | Google tries to trash them | Apr 04 01:15 |
| schestowitz | If Google did Ogg, then I could just link to YouTube | Apr 04 01:15 |
| schestowitz | It's uses MPEG-LArd | Apr 04 01:16 |
| schestowitz | *It | Apr 04 01:16 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, looking for new version of the script now | Apr 04 01:18 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, there's a new version of the script | Apr 04 01:19 |
| cubezzz | came out today :) | Apr 04 01:20 |
| cubezzz | http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2010.04.03/youtube-dl | Apr 04 01:20 |
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| cubezzz | you just need to keep the script current, the author keeps it up to date | Apr 04 01:21 |
| cubezzz | it works | Apr 04 01:21 |
| schestowitz | I use http://www.downloadhelper.net/ | Apr 04 01:21 |
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| cubezzz | just use it like this: | Apr 04 01:22 |
| cubezzz | youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZoswrKrFEI | Apr 04 01:22 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- Star Trek TOS Science Tricorder .::. Size~: 85.78 KB | Apr 04 01:22 |
| cubezzz | cli ftw | Apr 04 01:22 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... yours is better | Apr 04 01:23 |
| schestowitz | installed it | Apr 04 01:23 |
| schestowitz | [youtube] tMJBk7YhsN0: Downloading video info webpage | Apr 04 01:23 |
| schestowitz | [youtube] tMJBk7YhsN0: Extracting video information | Apr 04 01:23 |
| schestowitz | [download] Destination: tMJBk7YhsN0.flv | Apr 04 01:23 |
| schestowitz | [download] 50.0% of 9.33M at 73.12k/s ETA 01:05 | Apr 04 01:23 |
| schestowitz | I can now download and convert on the server directly | Apr 04 01:27 |
| schestowitz | If I install ffmpeg | Apr 04 01:28 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a script to chain these | Apr 04 01:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://heronsperch.blogspot.com/2010/03/rudy-on-macdev-on-irc-is-coward-who.html | Apr 04 01:31 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Heron's Perch: Rudy on #macdev on IRC is a coward who can't tolerate the opinions of others (Muted on #macdev (irc.freenode.net) for no reason) .::. Size~: 72.3 KB | Apr 04 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol | Apr 04 01:31 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~/Desktop$ /home/roy/Main/Programs/ffmpeg2theora-0.24.linux32\(2\).bin ~/Desktop/*.flv | Apr 04 01:31 |
| sebsebseb | it's been a while for us, but Happy Easter _goblin and schestowitz | Apr 04 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | as for Diablo-D3 DaemonFC and cubezzz not time just yet for you, so an early Happy Easter for you | Apr 04 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | and Happy Easter to anyone else in here who celebrates it. | Apr 04 01:34 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~/Desktop$ echo '/home/roy/Main/Programs/ffmpeg2theora-0.24.linux32\(2\).bin ~/Desktop/*.flv' > vid.sh | Apr 04 01:34 |
| schestowitz | roy@roy:~/Desktop$ chmod 755 vid.sh | Apr 04 01:34 |
| cubezzz | thanks sebsebseb | Apr 04 01:34 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: ta | Apr 04 01:34 |
| _goblin | sebsebseb, thanks, youi too | Apr 04 01:35 |
| cubezzz | sure there's macdev, where's the armdev? | Apr 04 01:36 |
| cubezzz | or Sparcdev? | Apr 04 01:36 |
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| cubezzz | everyone's an intel zombie | Apr 04 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | Early Happy Easter jono (well it woudn't be if you were in the UK, where it's already been for nearly an hour and a half) | Apr 04 01:37 |
| jono | thanks sebsebseb | Apr 04 01:38 |
| jono | you too :) | Apr 04 01:38 |
| schestowitz | http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2010-March/008247.html | Apr 04 01:41 |
| *schestowitz has changed the topic to: Grouphug | Apr 04 01:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/reviews/element-11 | Apr 04 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | Nice ideas here: http://www.tux-planet.fr/16-best-linux-desktop-customization-3/ | Apr 04 01:46 |
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| _goblin | Right thats me done for the night....."Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" | Apr 04 01:54 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, Im done for the night. I hope Sunday will see a return of Robotron, a new commenter on Openbytes....night all! | Apr 04 01:56 | |
| schestowitz | heck out the hover effect here with JS enabled: http://www.daniweb.com/news/story272681.html | Apr 04 02:04 |
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| schestowitz | What do you think? | Apr 04 02:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WzCP6ZTGsw | Apr 04 02:47 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7cuFnVJDyY | Apr 04 02:54 |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | Apr 04 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The government of Connecticut in 2005 used its eminent domain authority to seize and bulldoze an entire (non-blighted) housing community in violation of the US Constitution | Apr 04 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | it went to court and the US Supreme Court glossed over the fact that the state was NOT using the power within the scope of Constitutional law | Apr 04 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | the reason it was unconstitutional is because the Fifth Amendment requires any land taken to be for public use | Apr 04 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | and the state government wanted to seize it and in turn have the companies that wanted to move in their rent it to them for ONE DOLLAR PER YEAR | Apr 04 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | so if that's not already bad enough, nothing has been built there, five years later, largely because the Pfizer drug cartel member closed all of its facilities in that state anyway and canceled the one they wanted to plant on the illegally seized property | Apr 04 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | so the state spent $80 million in public looting funds to bulldoze a bunch of peoples houses so that corporations could rent the land essentially rent free, on the vague promise of providing a few jobs | Apr 04 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | and it's a gigantic empty field now | Apr 04 03:03 |
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| DaemonFC | "There's bigger problems around than which corrupt malicious jerk stuffing a suit happens to be the county sheriff at the moment. :) | Apr 04 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | We live in a society where the police make up the law as they go and the courts back them up, you can't fix the problem by complaining about a symptom." | Apr 04 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | How's that sound? | Apr 04 03:15 |
| schestowitz | iPod idiocy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rusGX_of8gc | Apr 04 03:16 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I was just gonna post about it | Apr 04 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It really bugs me that that guy is running a hate blog about our local politicians being corrupt | Apr 04 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | not because I like them | Apr 04 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | not because they're not corrupt, they are | Apr 04 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | because he runs as a Republican or Democrat for whatever spot is open | Apr 04 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | year by year | Apr 04 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | his supporters don't even seem to notice that he's a turncoat political candidate who is in multiple parties sometimes within the same year in order of where he can squeeze in or has the best chance of winning | Apr 04 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 04 03:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] US #EPA estimates that for every 1 job in landfill, six jobs are created #recycling the same material. | Apr 04 03:33 | |
| DaemonFC | I'd believe it | Apr 04 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | it probably does take more manpower to recycle something than throwing it in a pit and burying it | Apr 04 03:37 |
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| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Apr 04 03:41 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13406 | Apr 04 03:42 |
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| DaemonFC | One of the few things Bush did that I agree with | Apr 04 03:42 |
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| DaemonFC | updated my Opera version to the latest snapshot :) | Apr 04 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | they're still nailing tons of bugs introduced by 10.5 | Apr 04 03:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Building a road to solve congestion is like loosening your belt to solve obesity." V. McKenzie-McHarg, #Environment #Victoria | Apr 04 03:56 | |
| neighborlee | yes its not stable at all | Apr 04 03:57 |
| neighborlee | I wanted to like it, I really did; but pfft | Apr 04 03:57 |
| neighborlee | no way jose | Apr 04 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | 10.51 is solid | Apr 04 03:57 |
| neighborlee | if I want bugs ill go outside into the forest. | Apr 04 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't have any problems with it | Apr 04 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | 10.50 crashed a lot | Apr 04 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm on a 10.52 snapshot now | Apr 04 03:58 |
| neighborlee | opera is nice for browsing, but the rest isn't very intuitive at all | Apr 04 03:59 |
| neighborlee | I wanted to use its irc client but its a mess | Apr 04 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm using it right now | Apr 04 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's not terrible | Apr 04 03:59 |
| neighborlee | everything under one roof would have been kind nice. | Apr 04 03:59 |
| neighborlee | for average use maybe not o_0 | Apr 04 03:59 |
| *WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulf | Apr 04 04:00 | |
| DaemonFC | the vast majority of bugs happen in things I don't care about | Apr 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | like widgets :) | Apr 04 04:00 |
| DaemonFC | so I'm happy | Apr 04 04:00 |
| neighborlee | those look pretty darn kewl though | Apr 04 04:01 |
| neighborlee | those games etal | Apr 04 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | some of them are | Apr 04 04:01 |
| neighborlee | yup | Apr 04 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | they feel like Vista-ish widgets | Apr 04 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | but Opera had them back before Vista | Apr 04 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | they can double as miniature desktop apps | Apr 04 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | but I don't think it worked out as well as they hoped | Apr 04 04:02 |
| neighborlee | yeah ick vista widgets hate those things | Apr 04 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | probably case Vista and 7 have a widgets engine and so does Google | Apr 04 04:02 |
| DaemonFC | *cause | Apr 04 04:02 |
| neighborlee | honeslty I wish I could go all mac..but not yet..if I do it has to be intel as I need some windows apps and games | Apr 04 04:02 |
| neighborlee | bleh | Apr 04 04:03 |
| neighborlee | but i'd love to try :) | Apr 04 04:03 |
| DaemonFC | yes, Opera does have a somewhat Mac-like interface, with the biggest exception being that it works well and isn't missing options you need | Apr 04 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | most Mac-like apps dumb shit down | Apr 04 04:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.walmart.com/ip/eZip-Trailz-Electric-Bicycle/11988713 | Apr 04 04:05 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Walmart.com: eZip Trailz Electric Bicycle: Bikes, Scooters & Skates .::. Size~: 150.79 KB | Apr 04 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | think I've decided on this | Apr 04 04:05 |
| neighborlee | mac like interface is safari and itunes | Apr 04 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, which don't work well | Apr 04 04:05 |
| neighborlee | safar is growing on me a bit..though I dont like default 'find' code as it exits when you goto another url | Apr 04 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | If I ended up with a Mac, I would end up bypassing most of the stuff that came with it | Apr 04 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | just like I do on Windows | Apr 04 04:06 |
| neighborlee | heh | Apr 04 04:06 |
| neighborlee | thats whyI got win7..all that crap is mostly gone | Apr 04 04:06 |
| neighborlee | and I like aero so I dont care about that | Apr 04 04:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4043/94064984.png | Apr 04 04:09 |
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| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 04 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | My Vista7 desktop :) | Apr 04 04:09 |
| DaemonFC | Opera supports Aero Peek now | Apr 04 04:10 |
| neighborlee | ahhhhh I see you are a bethesda enthusiast ;00- | Apr 04 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | mmhm | Apr 04 04:11 |
| neighborlee | its ok I have both games lol | Apr 04 04:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/171/17379417.png | Apr 04 04:12 |
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| neighborlee | fallout3 has amazing plot and stunning ,if not horrific world | Apr 04 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Oblivion is definitely more upbeat | Apr 04 04:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 04:12 |
| neighborlee | heh | Apr 04 04:12 |
| neighborlee | dain shame its not mp | Apr 04 04:12 |
| neighborlee | well there is aplugin never tried it.. | Apr 04 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | shame I can't mod VATS and the Fallout 3 weapons sets into Oblivion | Apr 04 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | that would be badass | Apr 04 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | done with main quest in 5 minutes | Apr 04 04:13 |
| neighborlee | heh | Apr 04 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | used Gauss Rifle | Apr 04 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | bored now :) | Apr 04 04:13 |
| neighborlee | did you play any of the expansions ? | Apr 04 04:13 |
| DaemonFC | \Oblivion? | Apr 04 04:13 |
| neighborlee | fallout | Apr 04 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | I have the GOTY version of oth | Apr 04 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | so I have all add-ons | Apr 04 04:14 |
| neighborlee | ah | Apr 04 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | my character in Fallout 3 is level 30 something | Apr 04 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | all attributes are more or less as high as they can get | Apr 04 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | he has T-51b Winterized Power Armor and Chinese Stealth Armor | Apr 04 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | and almost every weapon there is in the game | Apr 04 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | and lots of perks, including that animals don't attack him | Apr 04 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | and they fight whatever does attack him | Apr 04 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | about the only non-humans I have to watch out for are super mutants, deathclaws, scorpions, and roaches | Apr 04 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | he has the ghoul mask so those won't attack him either | Apr 04 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | Lincolns Repeater and the Gauss Rifle are what I use most all the time | Apr 04 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | I have plenty of weapons though | Apr 04 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | Lincoln's Repeater uses .40 Magnum rounds | Apr 04 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's a better sniper rifle than the sniper rifle | Apr 04 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | it also is very accurate | Apr 04 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | I bust out the Gauss Rifle for things like Deathclaws and Super Mutants | Apr 04 04:19 |
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| DaemonFC | not worth wasting rounds for the Gauss Rifle on humanoids | Apr 04 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | well, Gauss Rifle is also very effective against Enclave soldiers cause of their power armor | Apr 04 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | it does lots of damage, has a good knockdown chance | Apr 04 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | makes it ideal for huge monsters and heavily armored humans | Apr 04 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | if your opponent is too close for comfort when you notice them, hit them in the torso with a gauss round and watch them go flying about 10 feet | Apr 04 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | grenades around corners and through windows work nicely too :) | Apr 04 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | neighborlee: I always have preferred semi-automatic handguns and rifles to "spray and pray" | Apr 04 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | shotguns are useless for distance combat too | Apr 04 04:24 |
| neighborlee | ic ;) | Apr 04 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | spray and pray weapons are for people who can't aim | Apr 04 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that a person with an accurate semi-automatic rifle who can aim is more dangerous than a guy out there with an AK-47 | Apr 04 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | he'd be out there unloading magazines to kill all of 3 people and I'd be sneaking over to a firing point to take the guy out with one shot | Apr 04 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | assault rifles are for pussies | Apr 04 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | do the police ever go in there spraying bullets in the guy's general direction or do they get on a rooftop and crack the guy's head wide open with one round? | Apr 04 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | the government should have outlawed semi-automatic rifles and left the automatic ones alone if they really wanted to make the general public "safer" | Apr 04 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | I've noticed the people with semi-automatic weapons usually manage to kill 2-3 times as many people as the nuts with full auto | Apr 04 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | it works out that way in Fallout 3's targeting system too | Apr 04 04:31 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Since 1970 we have lost more than 30% of the resources that sustain life on this planet." #Environment #Victoria | Apr 04 04:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "Known reserves of most industrial metals will be exhausted within 20 years, some in as little as 10." #Environment #Victoria | Apr 04 04:44 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "1/2 of Victoria's native plants & 1/3 of native vertebrate species thought to be extinct, threatened or vulnerable" #Environment #Victoria | Apr 04 04:45 | |
| DaemonFC | neighborlee: you figure I should buy this bicycle now or wait until I can afford a second battery pack? | Apr 04 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 04 04:50 |
| DaemonFC | I would like to be able to make it to Marion and two battery packs would get me there | Apr 04 04:50 |
| *DaemonFC hates the transportation issue | Apr 04 04:51 | |
| *DaemonFC growls | Apr 04 04:51 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] A nation that continues yr after yr to spend more money on mil defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death -MLK | Apr 04 05:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #unfollowSaturday blocked @omgfacts. That was easy. | Apr 04 05:11 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Cool promotion by Australian #Conservation Foundation - a card impregnated with Bottlebrush seeds. Soak & plant. Good project for kids! #acf | Apr 04 05:13 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Victoria's helmeted honeyeater - state bird emblem - reached a critical low population of just 50 :( http://www.helmetedhoneyeater.org.au/ | Apr 04 05:15 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Honestly, is this what we have become? http://is.gd/bdAT7 | Apr 04 07:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Don't you figure that mass extinction is really a mixed blessing? | Apr 04 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | think of all that carbon dioxide those things aren't breathing out | Apr 04 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | we can add that to our credit allotment I think | Apr 04 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 07:06 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @rjurney I want a 2 minute mulligan on @twitter typos. // well yeah I've wanted that forever :) | Apr 04 07:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] .@quelsolaar New #LOVE release http://quelsolaar.com //any idea why this won't run on my #Radeon X1650 Pro? Also, whither #Linux client? :-) | Apr 04 07:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] I wish to add a fuel cell at my back. Cannot eat outside daily and waste time :( #food | Apr 04 07:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “The only thing necessary for the triumph [of bad] is for good men to do nothing.” –Edmund Burke | Apr 04 07:47 | |
| *WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-away | Apr 04 07:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Christopher Daniels appears in ROH? Are we to take it that he's left TNA? #wrestling #roh #tna #wwe | Apr 04 08:11 | |
| *schestowitz has changed the topic to: Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of our adversaries | Apr 04 08:20 | |
| schestowitz | http://madhatter.ca/2010/04/03/whos-blog-is-this-anyway/ | Apr 04 08:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/TechRights WTH? | Apr 04 08:26 |
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| Zeusoft_ | Hi all | Apr 04 08:27 |
| schestowitz | Hi, what's up? | Apr 04 08:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] @popey happy birthday, pal! | Apr 04 08:28 | |
| DaemonFC | at this rate, my birthday surprise will be getting killed by a flaming piece of de-orbited space debris | Apr 04 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 04 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | I can hardly wait | Apr 04 08:32 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @popey happy birthday | Apr 04 08:35 | |
| Zeusoft_ | Currently planning to make Pocket OS | Apr 04 08:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft v Datel – MS looking for scraps off the table? http://tinyurl.com/ycqxc3h #microsoft #windows #patent #fail | Apr 04 09:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think it was Jeff Foxworthy that I thought of with the car my cousin tried to pawn off on me | Apr 04 09:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Training in Nigeria, 1,500 Educators in Romania Trained to Make Software http://ur1.ca/t63x http://ur1.ca/s2ib | Apr 04 09:04 | |
| DaemonFC | when he was talking about rental cars and women that have gotten around | Apr 04 09:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Proprietary operating systems are coming to a close" http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/what-will-come-after-linux-37837 | Apr 04 09:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | "I don't want to stick my key in something that's been driven that hard, that many miles, by that many people" | Apr 04 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 04 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | I think the joke was something like "Buying a rental car is like going to a whorehouse looking for a wife" | Apr 04 09:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Audiocast/Episodes of Linux Outlaws, #FLOSS Weekly http://linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/143 http://twit.tv/floss115 | Apr 04 09:08 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Yes! 4 articles in a row and not one mentioning piracy....A busy week and Ive still had time for my blog: http://tinyurl.com/knvxnm #foss | Apr 04 09:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Examples of Great Appearance in #GNU #Linux Desktops http://ur1.ca/t651 http://ur1.ca/t652 http://ur1.ca/t653 | Apr 04 09:10 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin it's not "piracy" | Apr 04 09:12 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Linux Kernel Releases (Maintenance), X.Org Server 1.8.0 Released http://ur1.ca/t65p http://ur1.ca/t65q | Apr 04 09:13 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Wine 1.1.42 is Released, #CrossOver #Linux 9 Reviewed http://ur1.ca/t669 http://ur1.ca/t66a | Apr 04 09:16 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_kills_nv&num=1 | Apr 04 09:17 |
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| DaemonFC | lmao | Apr 04 09:17 |
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| _goblin | How could I not come into the chat room to defend my use of the word pirate. | Apr 04 09:22 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I'll meet you in your chat room to discuss this...even the "crews" define themselves as pirates, I think the word is accepted. | Apr 04 09:22 | |
| _goblin | its a term thats been adopted like google has for search..... | Apr 04 09:23 |
| _goblin | even the piracy crews call themselves pirates and I think its accepted that its a wholly different meaning from stripey jumpers, parrots and making people walk the plant | Apr 04 09:23 |
| _goblin | *plank | Apr 04 09:23 |
| _goblin | the term "Pirate" was being used by Fairlight during the 16bit computing days | Apr 04 09:24 |
| _goblin | they revelled in using it. | Apr 04 09:24 |
| _goblin | there is no problem with it having a double meaning and everyone knows that its a whole different world to that of piracy on the high seas. | Apr 04 09:25 |
| _goblin | and its far better than the word "theft" since as defined in Sec(1) of theft act, data is wholly inappropriate to be described in that way. | Apr 04 09:25 |
| _goblin | So there.... ;) | Apr 04 09:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Simple Games for #GNU #Linux Go Free (GPLv3), Open Beta for Heroes of Newerth http://ur1.ca/t679 http://ur1.ca/t67a | Apr 04 09:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Arch #GNU #Linux Running on the #Meso http://www.thelinuxlink.net/myblog/?p=379 | Apr 04 09:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz I will not give Mandriva another chance. Every time I tried it,its been fraught with issues.Out of the box?- it can stay in it. | Apr 04 09:32 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Receives #GroundWork Backing, Reviewed http://ur1.ca/t68b http://ur1.ca/t68c http://ur1.ca/t68d | Apr 04 09:33 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxMint 8 Has New #Xfce and #LXDE Editions http://ur1.ca/t68x http://ur1.ca/t68z | Apr 04 09:36 | |
| Zeusoft_ | Back | Apr 04 09:37 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linksys #Routers Run #Linux , New Products Contain It http://ur1.ca/t698 http://ur1.ca/t699 http://ur1.ca/t69a | Apr 04 09:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Motorola VE66 Runs #Linux http://www.newsbroadcast.co.uk/783/the-motorola-ve66-is-an-effective-and-stylish-slider-phone-handset | Apr 04 09:38 | |
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| Zeusoft | Hello again | Apr 04 09:39 |
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| _goblin | that was short and sweet. | Apr 04 09:43 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Nokia's #Linux Said to be Running on #Windows Phones http://pocketnow.com/software-1/maemo-shown-running-on-an-htc-hd2-fake | Apr 04 09:51 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks Running #GNU #Linux Only (with Lotus) http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/59445 | Apr 04 09:54 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Tablets Running #GNU #Linux Arrive at the Scene http://ur1.ca/t6dn http://ur1.ca/t6do | Apr 04 09:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #MyPaint for #GNU #Linux http://blog.worldlabel.com/2010/unleash-your-inner-old-master-with-mypaint-open-source.html | Apr 04 09:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] WebGL and HTML5 API opened a door for having a 3D web (like second life). Web 3.0 is all about 3D and virtual and augmented reality. #html5 | Apr 04 09:59 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla / #Firefox Claims Over 350 Million Users http://ur1.ca/t6e2 http://ur1.ca/t6e4 | Apr 04 10:00 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You may grow increasingly uncomfortable throughout the day as ... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11 | Apr 04 10:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Oracle Remains Committed to #Java http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-10471501-62.html | Apr 04 10:11 | |
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| Zeusoft | Has anyone watched The Pirates from SIlicon Valey movie? | Apr 04 10:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Case of Proprietary Going Free/Libre in New Releases http://flowingdata.com/2010/04/01/streamgraph-code-is-available-and-open-source/ | Apr 04 10:16 | |
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| schestowitz | [09:24] <_goblin> the term "Pirate" was being used by Fairlight during the 16bit computing days | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | OK, so I will call proprietary software makers "gangsters" | Apr 04 10:29 |
| schestowitz | Then, I will demand that the press calls them that | Apr 04 10:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Thanks @tonywhitmore @lauracowen @jonobacon @airurando @schestowitz @opensourcerer @j0nr @threethirty @fabsh @marxjohnson @raprap30 ! | Apr 04 10:29 | |
| schestowitz | I will mail the New York Times and Britannica saying that they need to rename Apple employees "gangsters" | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Cause the name is hereby seen as accepptable | Apr 04 10:30 |
| schestowitz | Politicians need to be named "tyrants" | Apr 04 10:30 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Got a lovely pressy for my birthday a Panasonic SD255 Breakmaker! mmmmm dough! http://drool.popey.com/ #fb | Apr 04 10:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Dear BBC. You are made of fail. Switching F1 from BBC1 to BBC2 seemed like a good idea to who exactly? Thanks for that, missed recording. | Apr 04 10:41 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Push from #EFF for Civil Rights http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/03/30 | Apr 04 10:44 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #DRM Fails Gamers Again http://games.on.net/article/8521/Australian_gamers_unable_to_play_Settlers_7_due_to_DRM_woes | Apr 04 10:45 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Take on Software and Harm Videos Along the Way http://techdirt.com/articles/20100401/1532138839.shtml | Apr 04 10:46 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Digital Economy Bill: "What’s Yours Is Ours" http://webmink.com/2010/03/31/digital-activism/ http://stop43.org.uk/pages/read_more.html | Apr 04 10:48 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] WTF #fail gujarat e-tendering site https://www.nprocure.com require IE to view it ! give me gun, I wann shoot them ! | Apr 04 10:54 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 04 10:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Thanks @selinium @philotes82 @Bassetts :D | Apr 04 11:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Slashdot is the geek reptile brain. Sex/money stories really get the juices flowing, even there. #murdoch #tabloid #sexsells | Apr 04 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/27131210#notice-27200611 " | Apr 04 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | openuniverse | Apr 04 11:11 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz this makes me wish i had a "favorite favorites" page, whcih stuck a handful of uber-favorite notices on my profile. | Apr 04 11:11 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 04 11:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Included in webcast (28 mins) interesting articles, future of newspapers also corporations being elected to run USA, why bother they do. | Apr 04 11:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Link http://is.gd/bdPWS | Apr 04 11:17 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] has updated his avatar/profile picture. *check check* :-) | Apr 04 11:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2010/mar/10030810.html | Apr 04 12:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wheeee off to the pub with the family! Expect nothing coherent from me this afternoon. | Apr 04 12:14 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] is preparing to catch a bus to go to chennai | Apr 04 12:23 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "He's [Ratzinger] as tainted as any of the bishops who kept these cases under wraps" http://j.mp/dzMm4v HT @ciphergoth | Apr 04 12:35 | |
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| schestowitz | Site is down | Apr 04 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Weird, no apparent cause. Maybe the proxy | Apr 04 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Damn. I think the proxy may have fallen over | Apr 04 12:56 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Apr 04 13:01 |
| schestowitz | It's a miracle, it's back | Apr 04 13:01 |
| schestowitz | I worried that tessier_ will be upset at me for paging :-) | Apr 04 13:01 |
| schestowitz | *would | Apr 04 13:02 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it was just a network disruption, either way it's fine now | Apr 04 13:09 |
| schestowitz | Sites that make it seem like it's just Microsoft versus Apple: http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Money/Business/5548011-147/story.csp | Apr 04 14:02 |
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| schestowitz | Where are all the lInux tablets they omit? | Apr 04 14:02 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] About to fly to Mexico for some down-time. Excited! Bloody early, mind. | Apr 04 14:23 | |
| Eruaran | I just did a grep -R shit /usr/src/* | Apr 04 14:32 |
| Eruaran | Mostly stuff from one company has the sort "shit" in the remarks | Apr 04 14:33 |
| Eruaran | Panasonic :D | Apr 04 14:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | at east panasonic is honest about things | Apr 04 14:34 |
| oiaohm | Hmm would be interesting to see who added those commits. | Apr 04 14:37 |
| oiaohm | It would be funny if its a panasonic employee | Apr 04 14:37 |
| Eruaran | heh | Apr 04 14:38 |
| Eruaran | it is | Apr 04 14:38 |
| Eruaran | Nearly all of them are from 2007 | Apr 04 14:38 |
| Eruaran | Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. | Apr 04 14:38 |
| Eruaran | (Panasonic) | Apr 04 14:38 |
| Eruaran | oh | Apr 04 14:40 |
| Eruaran | I am an idiot | Apr 04 14:40 |
| Eruaran | my bad | Apr 04 14:40 |
| oiaohm | I cannot remember the company with the love of the f8*%&d comments in the Linux kernel. | Apr 04 14:40 |
| oiaohm | swear word diving in the Linux kernel gets interesting at times. | Apr 04 14:40 |
| Eruaran | shit is flagged because the use of their copyright notice under MatsuSHITa | Apr 04 14:40 |
| oiaohm | Yep. | Apr 04 14:41 |
| MinceR | those sneaky guys managed to sneak a swear word into the company name | Apr 04 14:42 |
| oiaohm | http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/ I guess you know about this Eruaran | Apr 04 14:45 |
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| Eruaran | No I hadn't seen that :P | Apr 04 14:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Do android mobile phone support Ogg Ringtones? #ogg #andriod | Apr 04 14:46 | |
| oiaohm | Recent years bad words has reduced as company policies have caught up with source code comments. | Apr 04 14:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] This comparison shows that HTC tatto is better then HTC Hero - http://www.phonegg.com/compare/26/HTC-Tattoo-vs-HTC-Hero.html #andriod #htc | Apr 04 14:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] I want to buy HTC tatto in Delhi (India), where I can find at cheapest price. #htc #delhi #india #buy #android ? | Apr 04 14:54 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @eduvid Do android mobile phone support Ogg Ringtones? #ogg #andriod | Apr 04 15:03 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Started making document for Indian Website which totally sucks - http://bit.ly/djHakg #suck #website #indian | Apr 04 15:06 | |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.prweb.com/releases/Marshall/Phelps/prweb3802834.htm | Apr 04 15:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW: You wouldn't bother downloading a car. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/33159.html | Apr 04 15:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @eduvid @charlesschulz says "@schestowitz : it does !" | Apr 04 15:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] @schestowitz Thanks ! | Apr 04 15:35 | |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Apr 04 16:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Was that Linux running on a laptop in the new episode of Doctor Who? Certainly looks like it.... #linux #foss #drwho | Apr 04 16:47 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] It is the duty of Govt to make sure for the mass-availability of OS and Software Applications for its public #righttosoftware | Apr 04 16:47 | |
| -Martinp23-[Global Notice] We're pleased to announce the launch of the Groups Advisory Board, which will give approved groups a greater say in the direction that freenode and certain other PDPC projects take in the future. Read all about it at http://bit.ly/ceCbIA and encourage your group contact(s) to join! Thanks for using freenode and have a great day! | Apr 04 17:26 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I don't know what the general feeling is but I think the new Doctor is great. #drwho | Apr 04 17:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "If you can't make it good, at least make it look good" ~@BillGates | Apr 04 17:29 | |
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| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/35 | Apr 04 18:03 |
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| MinceR | ender2070: you seem to have reversed the meaning of the title | Apr 04 18:05 |
| ender2070 | whoops | Apr 04 18:07 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Apr 04 18:07 |
| ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/35 | Apr 04 18:08 |
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| ender2070 | there we go | Apr 04 18:08 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | Apr 04 19:08 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, Jan Wildeboer is in Riyadh now! :-) | Apr 04 19:08 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, hey! | Apr 04 19:18 |
| _goblin | hi! | Apr 04 19:22 |
| _goblin | im telling you.....rey will be joining the straight edge society | Apr 04 19:22 |
| _goblin | nearly 100% cert | Apr 04 19:22 |
| _goblin | :) | Apr 04 19:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Now translating Ubuntu Manuals into Hindi https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/main/+pots/ubuntu-manual/hi | Apr 04 19:31 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Hindi (hi) : Template “ubuntu-manual” : Translations : Series main : Ubuntu Manual .::. Size~: 49.84 KB | Apr 04 19:32 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, btw. I didn't enjoy this week's Smackdown that much. | Apr 04 19:39 |
| _goblin | no? shock about Jack Swagger though | Apr 04 19:40 |
| Omar87 | Swagger is now the champion which is pretty interesting, though. :) | Apr 04 19:40 |
| _goblin | especially if we get a Jericho v Swagger.......two bad guys | Apr 04 19:42 |
| Omar87 | I enjoyed watching Dolph Ziggler's sleeper hold bring The Great Khali to his knees. :P | Apr 04 19:42 |
| _goblin | more likely though it will be Edge V Swagger (after number 1 contender) | Apr 04 19:42 |
| Omar87 | Yeah. | Apr 04 19:42 |
| _goblin | although these money in the bank matches merely cheapen the championship belt | Apr 04 19:43 |
| Omar87 | I don't think Edge should have any trouble defeating Swagger, imho. | Apr 04 19:44 |
| _goblin | Undi v HBK was seen as a more important match at WM and I think shows the belts have no value | Apr 04 19:44 |
| _goblin | omar87: Im sure that will be the case. | Apr 04 19:44 |
| Omar87 | _goblin, just like he speared Big Show, he can easily do the same to Swagger. | Apr 04 19:44 |
| _goblin | I think they need to make the WWE title and the world title one. | Apr 04 19:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "Before we can understand recursion, we must first understand recursion." ~Author Unknown. #quote | Apr 04 19:49 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] WWE still making out that Daniel Bryan is their rookie, how insulting to him. Funny thing is he's streets ahead of most of the WWE roster | Apr 04 19:55 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Having said all that I do think NXT is a great product. I am thoroughly enjoying the show. | Apr 04 19:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ripping more CD's to FLAC. Re-discovered a track that blew some TDL RTL2 speakers back in the day :S http://bit.ly/a0wkJn | Apr 04 20:21 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Top three products- RTL2 .::. Size~: 10.37 KB | Apr 04 20:21 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] At Mexico City airport. Cool place. We even had...wait for it...decent priced, good food. We must be in an episode of 'Lost' or something. | Apr 04 20:39 | |
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| yuhong | And yes, I noticed the renaming to Techrights. | Apr 04 21:07 |
| yuhong | And on the battery issues, Windows isn't the only one to have to deal with BIOS bugs. | Apr 04 21:15 |
| yuhong | Linux has to deal with it a lot too. | Apr 04 21:15 |
| cubezzz | closed source is just a bad idea | Apr 04 21:18 |
| cubezzz | that includes closed source BIOS | Apr 04 21:18 |
| yuhong | Yea, I just sent a reply to David Woodhouse from Intel about this after he mentioned it on LKML. | Apr 04 21:20 |
| cubezzz | Commodore was the most open of all manufacturers | Apr 04 21:20 |
| cubezzz | every register was documented | Apr 04 21:20 |
| yuhong | http://lwn.net/Articles/356766/ | Apr 04 21:20 |
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| cubezzz | now we have secretive manufacturers | Apr 04 21:20 |
| yuhong | This is Linus's reply to that email. | Apr 04 21:21 |
| yuhong | This is Linus's reply to that email, actually. | Apr 04 21:21 |
| yuhong | From: Yuhong Bao (yuhongbao_386@hotmail.com) | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | Sent: Sun 4/04/10 12:47 AM | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | To: david.woodhouse@intel.com | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | Cc: bios@gnu.org | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | > The only viable solution (short of an open source BIOS written by sober | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | > people) | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | Yea, you know that the FSF has been pushing for this for a while now. | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | They are frustrated at the lack of support from Intel (compared to AMD) regarding coreboot. | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | In fact, the FSF has the following pages about this: | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/free-bios.html | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/supportlinuxbios.html | Apr 04 21:22 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Campaign for Free BIOS — Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 32.87 KB | Apr 04 21:22 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Chips and Motherboards that support a Free BIOS - coreboot — Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 26.56 KB | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | Considering that you work for Intel, could you help? | Apr 04 21:22 |
| yuhong | Right from my Sent Messages. | Apr 04 21:22 |
| cubezzz | well who writes the BIOS code? No one knows | Apr 04 21:22 |
| cubezzz | so all speculation on Linus' part | Apr 04 21:23 |
| cubezzz | has he _seen_ BIOS source code? | Apr 04 21:23 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Apr 04 21:23 |
| yuhong | Probably not. | Apr 04 21:23 |
| yuhong | But anyway, above is the reply I sent. | Apr 04 21:24 |
| cubezzz | you may has well check out coreboot | Apr 04 21:24 |
| yuhong | To David Woodhouse from Intel. | Apr 04 21:24 |
| cubezzz | ok, this is my eperience... | Apr 04 21:24 |
| yuhong | Noticed I CCed bios@gnu.org. | Apr 04 21:24 |
| cubezzz | experience.... manufacturers don't care about old hardware AND they don't care about last year's hardware | Apr 04 21:25 |
| yuhong | I know. | Apr 04 21:25 |
| cubezzz | all they care about is current hardware | Apr 04 21:25 |
| yuhong | Of course, I know. | Apr 04 21:25 |
| cubezzz | "you need to upgrade" ;-) | Apr 04 21:25 |
| yuhong | That email thread I was responding to was discussing DMAR table troubles. | Apr 04 21:26 |
| cubezzz | I have hp 4700C scanner and it took me 5 years to figure it out well enough to use it on Linux | Apr 04 21:26 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Nasty Boys have been let go from TNA. At least we won't have to watch another match vs Dudleys.... #tna #wwe #wrestling | Apr 04 21:26 | |
| yuhong | So far, nobody has responded to my emails. | Apr 04 21:27 |
| cubezzz | Linux is actually pretty good with older hardware most of the time | Apr 04 21:27 |
| yuhong | Of course. | Apr 04 21:27 |
| cubezzz | that's one thing that FSF or Stallman should be doing that I don't really see them doing... | Apr 04 21:27 |
| cubezzz | and that's recommending hardware | Apr 04 21:28 |
| yuhong | So far, nobody has responded to that email. | Apr 04 21:28 |
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| cubezzz | anyways... | Apr 04 21:29 |
| cubezzz | boy do they not care about old hardware | Apr 04 21:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Please do not teach Indian child about Microshit http://post.ly/XnM3 | Apr 04 21:29 | |
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| cubezzz | you know in the 80's I had to drive to Toronto to buy a C compiler | Apr 04 21:30 |
| cubezzz | I couldn't find one in the city I live in anywhere | Apr 04 21:31 |
| cubezzz | there was a lot of things I couldn't do on the Amiga 500 | Apr 04 21:38 |
| cubezzz | the one thing I miss the most was the community that formed around Commoddore computers | Apr 04 21:40 |
| ender2070 | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/04/04/1627226/Multi-Platform-App-Created-Using-Single-Code-Base?art_pos=2 | Apr 04 21:42 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Slashdot Developers Story | Multi-Platform App Created Using Single Code Base .::. Size~: 134.12 KB | Apr 04 21:42 |
| ender2070 | nobodys heard of Java I take it | Apr 04 21:42 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] technologist is someone with a open mouth who can eat anything. Activist is says what to eat. Developer try to create great recipes #quote | Apr 04 21:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] No return yet from Robotron on Openbytes, shame. :( | Apr 04 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | ender2070: LINA | Apr 04 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Adobe AIR is proprietary junk. They can call it "open source", but it ain't | Apr 04 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Cross-platform (meaning 3 platform) is their sheep's clothing | Apr 04 21:47 |
| Eruaran | Why is Adobe on the Linux foundation again? | Apr 04 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Makes them look credible | Apr 04 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Also helps them spread Flush and stuff | Apr 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Damn. So much news despite Easter today........ | Apr 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Been out with friends and stuff thinking it would be quieter, but it's not | Apr 04 21:48 |
| ender2070 | yeah I figured the article was stupid anyways | Apr 04 21:49 |
| Eruaran | Ironic that Apple is throwing its weight behind HTML5 | Apr 04 21:49 |
| ender2070 | Apple is throwing its weight behind HTML5/H.264 | Apr 04 21:49 |
| Eruaran | Why does Apple have a problem with Java? | Apr 04 21:49 |
| ender2070 | Java is open source | Apr 04 21:49 |
| ender2070 | thats why, lol | Apr 04 21:49 |
| Eruaran | So is KHTML | Apr 04 21:49 |
| ender2070 | theres probably no java interpreters with a license that allows them to steal all the work | Apr 04 21:49 |
| ender2070 | like KHTML | Apr 04 21:50 |
| ender2070 | and BSD | Apr 04 21:50 |
| Eruaran | hmm | Apr 04 21:50 |
| ender2070 | Apple has a history of theft | Apr 04 21:50 |
| Eruaran | I liked the story Jonathan Schwartz told about Steve Jobs threatening Sun | Apr 04 21:51 |
| ender2070 | yeah :) | Apr 04 21:51 |
| ender2070 | I did too | Apr 04 21:51 |
| ender2070 | he was like "well windows and .net use our patents, we'd like royalties on every copy of windows sold" | Apr 04 21:51 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202446920424&Pfizer_Hit_With__Million_RICO_Penalty_Over_Neurontin_Promotion | Apr 04 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | [21:49] <ender2070> Apple is throwing its weight behind HTML5/H.264 | Apr 04 21:51 |
| ender2070 | im quoting roughly | Apr 04 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, exactly | Apr 04 21:52 |
| ender2070 | even Apple's gui is left from Xerox | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: he didn't say it like this | Apr 04 21:52 |
| ender2070 | theft* | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | He didn't retaliate | Apr 04 21:52 |
| ender2070 | he hinted at it | Apr 04 21:52 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | He said something like, "we have Java" | Apr 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | He didn't say he wants Windows royalties | Apr 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Ponytail has class | Apr 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Steve and Bill are gangsters | Apr 04 21:53 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Apr 04 21:53 |
| ender2070 | "We’ve looked at .NET, and you’re trampling all over a huge number of Java patents. So what will you pay us for every copy of Windows?”" | Apr 04 21:54 |
| ender2070 | http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/good-artists-copy-great-artists-steal/ | Apr 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mayitpleasethecourt.com/journal.asp | Apr 04 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070: I missed that, thanks | Apr 04 21:55 |
| ender2070 | np :) | Apr 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I have a good expose of b&m foundation tomorrow | Apr 04 21:55 |
| ender2070 | my favorite line of txt on it | Apr 04 21:55 |
| schestowitz | I've just shown a mate Alex Jones going crazy | Apr 04 21:55 |
| ender2070 | going? | Apr 04 21:56 |
| ender2070 | he _is_ crazy | Apr 04 21:56 |
| ender2070 | lol | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | He saw it on my computer, hopefully that'll keep him off that nutter :-) | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: yeah | Apr 04 21:56 |
| ender2070 | hes either nuts, or he works for the government and its his job | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Hold on, I'll show you | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APTn1EPg9E&feature=related | Apr 04 21:56 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- Alex Jones Interviews Noam Chomsky (Part 5) .::. Size~: 78.7 KB | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | Watch the lunatic go | Apr 04 21:56 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: my friend says he's "controlled opposition" | Apr 04 21:57 |
| schestowitz | But I don't think so | Apr 04 21:57 |
| schestowitz | He's just selling crap with lies | Apr 04 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Water filters *LOL* | Apr 04 21:57 |
| ender2070 | what is crazy that hes saying? | Apr 04 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Snake oil! | Apr 04 21:57 |
| ender2070 | his water filters are a scam y es | Apr 04 21:57 |
| ender2070 | but i do think theres a need to remove chlorine and flouride from water | Apr 04 21:58 |
| schestowitz | Pretend FEMA plans genocide, then sell some alien stories and | Apr 04 21:58 |
| schestowitz | other snake oil | Apr 04 21:58 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: some people here still think 9/11 was planned by the government | Apr 04 21:58 |
| ender2070 | im open minded on that one | Apr 04 21:58 |
| schestowitz | I ask for strong evidence and they get angry | Apr 04 21:58 |
| ender2070 | i dont trust the governments stories on anything | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | OK, fair enough | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | But we need real evidence | Apr 04 21:59 |
| ender2070 | yes we do | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Fabrications and lies don't cut it | Apr 04 21:59 |
| ender2070 | too bad every investigation was watered down or cut short | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | Here is my new favourite site: http://skeptoid.com/episode_guide.php | Apr 04 21:59 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Skeptoid Episode Guide .::. Size~: 92.03 KB | Apr 04 21:59 |
| ender2070 | it gives idiots ammo | Apr 04 21:59 |
| schestowitz | I've gone through about half of these | Apr 04 22:00 |
| ender2070 | i could only stand listening to that alex jones thing for about a minute | Apr 04 22:00 |
| ender2070 | hes such an idiot | Apr 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: yeah, RMS too | Apr 04 22:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] If you still unable to figure out how you can contribute to FOSS (without coding), Do contact me +91-9312166995. | Apr 04 22:00 | |
| schestowitz | He is among those who just ask for a comprehensive report | Apr 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: heh | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | It seems like you referred to RMS | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Actually, RMS spoke to Jones | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Which was s bit surprisiing | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Bad neighbourhood | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | But they only spoke about Free software | Apr 04 22:01 |
| ender2070 | i dont think RMS knew what it was about | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | I watched that whole show | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: he didn't | Apr 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Like Chomsky didn't know what Hustler was when he did a piece with them | Apr 04 22:02 |
| ender2070 | alex jones was trying to put words in his mouth | Apr 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | They passed him a list of past people | Apr 04 22:02 |
| ender2070 | stuff about internet 2 | Apr 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Anyone, my friend is thinking about doing a PhD after I showed him around | Apr 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | He already had 3 Masters degree | Apr 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | *s *rees | Apr 04 22:02 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: Internet2 is just a word | Apr 04 22:03 |
| schestowitz | They have the academic fibres and all | Apr 04 22:03 |
| schestowitz | I think RMS too knows that | Apr 04 22:03 |
| schestowitz | The alarmists try to say it's to do with censorship | Apr 04 22:03 |
| schestowitz | It's just a framework for fast data routes | Apr 04 22:04 |
| ender2070 | they tie internet2 in with net neutrality | Apr 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Apr 04 22:04 |
| ender2070 | thinking its a seperate tier | Apr 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Opposites | Apr 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Internet2 is like Web 2.0 | Apr 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | It's buzzwords | Apr 04 22:04 |
| ender2070 | yeah exactly | Apr 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | I can call the next AMD chip "processor2" | Apr 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't mean much | Apr 04 22:04 |
| ender2070 | i think alex jones freaked out over y2k too | Apr 04 22:04 |
| MinceR | seeing how governments worldwide have recently realized that free speech on the Internet is a threat to their power, it isn't entirely unthinkable | Apr 04 22:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Alrighty, folks, we have a plane to catch: thanks for all the tweeting/denting fun, see you later! | Apr 04 22:04 | |
| ender2070 | mincer - true but its not internet2 thats doing it | Apr 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | If anything, this "internet2" may obviate the need for 'neutrality'/tiering | Apr 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Hungary too? | Apr 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | That would be........ absurd | Apr 04 22:05 |
| ender2070 | freedom is a threat to world sustainability, it will be gone shortly | Apr 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | UK doesn't really have black lists,except IWF AFAIK | Apr 04 22:06 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: we don't have a Great Firewall yet | Apr 04 22:06 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: I heard from a friend that the press daemoniss Catholism | Apr 04 22:06 |
| schestowitz | He reckons it's deliberate | Apr 04 22:06 |
| MinceR | one thing that's good about hungary is that we're behind in tracking the newest assaults on our rights | Apr 04 22:07 |
| MinceR | but there isn't much resistance once they arrive | Apr 04 22:07 |
| schestowitz | With the archbishop of Canterbury or whatever saying that the church "has lost all credibility" | Apr 04 22:07 |
| MinceR | catholicism doesn't need to be demonised, it's pretty horrible as it is | Apr 04 22:07 |
| ender2070 | Mincer- that seems to happen everywhere | Apr 04 22:07 |
| MinceR | and it never deserved credibility to begin with | Apr 04 22:07 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: firewalls are Great? | Apr 04 22:07 |
| schestowitz | With capital G? | Apr 04 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Like Spaghetti Monster{Tm}? | Apr 04 22:08 |
| ender2070 | giving it a proper name | Apr 04 22:08 |
| ender2070 | The Great Firewall of China | Apr 04 22:08 |
| MinceR | some countries only have DNS-based internet censorship yet | Apr 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Church is good | Apr 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | For power | Apr 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | You assign peopel to clergy | Apr 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | They control the masses not under role of rulers | Apr 04 22:08 |
| MinceR | afaik we don't even have that | Apr 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | But spiritual leaders, supposedly have descended from above or blessed | Apr 04 22:09 |
| schestowitz | It's an old mechanism | Apr 04 22:09 |
| ender2070 | schestowitz - then they talk to god on their two way radios | Apr 04 22:09 |
| MinceR | though webservers do occasionally get closed down for disclosing controversial opinions | Apr 04 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Or copyright | Apr 04 22:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Easter: the soldier who first pulled the pin on the grenade, then smothered the explosion with his bunkmate's body. http://is.gd/bet0z | Apr 04 22:09 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Sunday Sacrilege: The silliest story ever told : Pharyngula .::. Size~: 116.46 KB | Apr 04 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Or incitations leading to malpractice | Apr 04 22:10 |
| schestowitz | That's a horrible story | Apr 04 22:11 |
| schestowitz | It's worse than Bush wiping his hands on Clinton | Apr 04 22:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtwkTS9mq8 | Apr 04 22:11 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: YouTube- hand shake .::. Size~: 68.93 KB | Apr 04 22:11 |
| schestowitz | Why would people in Haiti want to see Bush? | Apr 04 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Is that supposed to calm them down? | Apr 04 22:12 |
| schestowitz | Bush creates disasters (Iraq), he doesn't repair any (Katrina) | Apr 04 22:12 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/03/new-york-times-time-going-with-html5-video-for-ipad-too.ars | Apr 04 22:16 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Et tu? New York Times, Time going with HTML5 video for iPad .::. Size~: 26.81 KB | Apr 04 22:16 |
| schestowitz | It seems like all the debt-saddled papers go there | Apr 04 22:17 |
| schestowitz | As though Apple's platter can do something to help them | Apr 04 22:17 |
| MinceR | maybe it can | Apr 04 22:17 |
| MinceR | send them some zealots with too much money and too little sense | Apr 04 22:17 |
| schestowitz | We need a new name for iPad. Somehthing that explains what it really is and not too cryptic for people to know what product we refer to | Apr 04 22:17 |
| schestowitz | "Vista 7" came up in IRC 2 years ago | Apr 04 22:18 |
| MinceR | hypePod Don'tTouch, Oversized Edition? | Apr 04 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Well, just less than 2 | Apr 04 22:18 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: pad? | Apr 04 22:18 |
| MinceR | (not sure if it has phone capability, probably not) | Apr 04 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Hypad? | Apr 04 22:18 |
| MinceR | hypePad | Apr 04 22:18 |
| MinceR | but that isn't a new name | Apr 04 22:18 |
| schestowitz | What isn't? | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | I can't call it iPad | Apr 04 22:19 |
| MinceR | "HypePad" | Apr 04 22:19 |
| MinceR | s/H/h/ | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | I feel like I advertise it when I type that | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Repeating brand names help them | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | I borrowed "Flush" from you | Apr 04 22:19 |
| MinceR | or "crApple PaperWeight Intermediate Mass Edition" | Apr 04 22:19 |
| ender2070 | how about the iTampon | Apr 04 22:19 |
| schestowitz | hypePad is good | Apr 04 22:19 |
| MinceR | (between hypePhone/hypePod and their craptops) | Apr 04 22:20 |
| schestowitz | And hypePod | Apr 04 22:20 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: too vulgar | Apr 04 22:20 |
| MinceR | Time Bomb Increased Payload Edition | Apr 04 22:20 |
| ender2070 | what about the criPad | Apr 04 22:20 |
| schestowitz | People associated hygienic products with sex | Apr 04 22:20 |
| ender2070 | because of the whiners | Apr 04 22:20 |
| MinceR | (Bigger Battery -- Bigger Explosions!) | Apr 04 22:20 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: looks like "crap" | Apr 04 22:21 |
| MinceR | "Lame Tablet PC Imitation by crApple" | Apr 04 22:21 |
| schestowitz | HypePad is pronounced the same too | Apr 04 22:21 |
| schestowitz | I see more people who write "Vista 7" now | Apr 04 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Some read my USENET posts and BN | Apr 04 22:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's a good think they don't make tampons then | Apr 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | It would hurt when that explodes | Apr 04 22:22 |
| schestowitz | Fertility problems and all, y'know.. | Apr 04 22:22 |
| MinceR | it would neuter crApple fangirls though | Apr 04 22:23 |
| MinceR | natural selection! | Apr 04 22:23 |
| ender2070 | they dont let you remove the battery yourself due to the potential nuclear explosion? | Apr 04 22:23 |
| MinceR | i think m$ is going to beat them on nuclear explosion grounds | Apr 04 22:23 |
| MinceR | at least gate$ is | Apr 04 22:23 |
| schestowitz | What the gender ditsrib' among APple customers? | Apr 04 22:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no, it's just PR for Gates | Apr 04 22:25 |
| schestowitz | He's not a scientist | Apr 04 22:25 |
| MinceR | is winblows going to run on the computers that control it? | Apr 04 22:25 |
| MinceR | s/run/crawl/ | Apr 04 22:25 |
| schestowitz | BillG is the Kent E. Hovind of software | Apr 04 22:26 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind | Apr 04 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Hilarious | Apr 04 22:27 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Kent Hovind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 308.92 KB | Apr 04 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Why does Wikipedia even pay attention to him *blech!* | Apr 04 22:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/large_hadron_collider_switches_if_its_end_world_it_will_be_powered_gnu_linux | Apr 04 22:27 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: The Large Hadron Collider switches on. If it's the end of the world, it will be powered by GNU/Linux .::. Size~: 49.04 KB | Apr 04 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Black h0le | Apr 04 22:27 |
| schestowitz | 6,000 years of creation down the drain | Apr 04 22:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cultofmac.com/chip-maker-to-apple-hands-off-touchscreen-patents/35617 | Apr 04 22:28 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Elan Asks to Block iPad Imports Over Screen Patents | Cult of Mac .::. Size~: 27.02 KB | Apr 04 22:28 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 04 22:29 |
| ender2070 | LOL | Apr 04 22:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/0,1518,686622,00.html | Apr 04 22:29 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Linux-Prozess: Der Anfang vom Ende der Pinguinjagd - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Netzwelt .::. Size~: 56.49 KB | Apr 04 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw is putting promotional Apple articles up again | Apr 04 22:30 |
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| scientes | where is the ARM netbooks? | Apr 04 22:31 |
| MinceR | there's the Netwalker | Apr 04 22:32 |
| scientes | yeah | Apr 04 22:32 |
| scientes | kinda expensive | Apr 04 22:32 |
| scientes | been looking at it though | Apr 04 22:32 |
| scientes | any experience with it? | Apr 04 22:32 |
| MinceR | i don't have any | Apr 04 22:33 |
| MinceR | my netbook is an Eee PC 1005HA | Apr 04 22:33 |
| scientes | http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=570 | Apr 04 22:33 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Sharp Netwalker touchscreen PC-Z1 [English OK, Black] [ PC-Z1-B ] - -=- Conics.Net .::. Size~: 42.38 KB | Apr 04 22:33 |
| scientes | all that maters about atom netbooks is the chipset | Apr 04 22:33 |
| schestowitz | Mutilated hypePad: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad-Teardown/2183/1 | Apr 04 22:35 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: iPad Teardown - iFixit .::. Size~: 98.83 KB | Apr 04 22:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/SCO-vs-Linux-Die-Rolle-von-Groklaw-969777.html | Apr 04 22:35 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: heise online - SCO vs. Linux: Die Rolle von Groklaw .::. Size~: 39.29 KB | Apr 04 22:35 |
| *schestowitz tempted to do some posts on Easter....... | Apr 04 22:43 | |
| schestowitz | Should I hold off? | Apr 04 22:43 |
| MinceR | Happy Zombie Jesus Day! | Apr 04 22:44 |
| *yuhong (~chatzilla@pool-96-253-143-208.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Apr 04 22:47 | |
| yuhong | Did you notice the recent discussion about DRM and Vista. | Apr 04 22:48 |
| MinceR | strange, that article about the LHC and the CERN claims cisco says "the network is the computer" even though sun did | Apr 04 22:50 |
| *yuhong has quit (Client Quit) | Apr 04 22:50 | |
| schestowitz | wildebeest antelopes is the same as gnu??? | Apr 04 22:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it's garlic time | Apr 04 22:52 |
| MinceR | are there vampires around? | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe ciSCO said so it | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Googls sez ze future is ze cllllloud. | Apr 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, they are around this time | Apr 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | You pelt eggs at them | Apr 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | They they duck or vanish | Apr 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Nagy György gave Steve Easter presents. http://nagyorgy.uw.hu/ | Apr 04 22:55 |
| MinceR | that's because vampires are not to be fought with eggs | Apr 04 22:55 |
| MinceR | vampires must be Killed With Fire. | Apr 04 22:55 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 04 22:55 |
| schestowitz | It makes them redder and hotter | Apr 04 22:55 |
| schestowitz | then you need to fight a bunch of flaming cr*p | Apr 04 22:55 |
| satipera | You are back slapping do not forget citizens opinions | Apr 04 22:56 |
| MinceR | no, they become ashes. | Apr 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/open-source-computing-masses | Apr 04 22:57 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Open Source: Computing for the masses | Al-Masry Al-Youm: Today's News from Egypt .::. Size~: 44.95 KB | Apr 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | satipera: what do you refer to? | Apr 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | "At the El Sawy Culture Wheel in Zamalek, Al-Masry Al-Youm sponsored the "Free Open Source" festival on Saturday, also known as "Install Fest" or "GNU Linux" day. Volunteers held sessions on a range of topics, with a focus on the Open Source concept, explaining how even common applications could enhance user security." | Apr 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | They say GNU | Apr 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | gnu is sunlight to Fester the vampire | Apr 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/ballmer-gplv3.jpg | Apr 04 22:58 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Apr 04 22:58 |
| satipera | Read back a bit I have just got home after a hard days drinking and am ready for bed bfn | Apr 04 22:59 |
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| yuhong | On that topic, here is an article by Raymond Chen: | Apr 04 23:03 |
| yuhong | http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2007/05/04/2402028.aspx | Apr 04 23:03 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: The Old New Thing : How my lack of understanding of how processes exit on Windows XP forced a security patch to be recalled .::. Size~: 110.24 KB | Apr 04 23:03 |
| MinceR | m$ code monkeys don't even understand the code they meddle with in their jobs, news at 11 | Apr 04 23:05 |
| yuhong | I know. | Apr 04 23:06 |
| schestowitz | satipera: which part specifically? | Apr 04 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I didn't drink myself, but went out for kebab and stuff | Apr 04 23:06 |
| schestowitz | satipera: you mean with my friends? I was not "back slapping" | Apr 04 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Actually, I am receptive to ideas and want to know more | Apr 04 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I introduced of of them to some show that my cousin introduced me to | Apr 04 23:07 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: hey | Apr 04 23:08 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: what Redmond Shill says is not without bias | Apr 04 23:08 |
| yuhong | I am looking at some old IRC logs, trying to find my discussions about Blu-Ray and HD DVD. | Apr 04 23:08 |
| yuhong | yuhong: Of course not. | Apr 04 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Redmond Shill (Raymond Chen) is yet another MSDN blog you cite | Apr 04 23:08 |
| schestowitz | They do this for a living | Apr 04 23:09 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Apr 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | They must defend their wares | Apr 04 23:09 |
| yuhong | But you can easily debug it yourself to verify. | Apr 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Apr 04 23:09 |
| yuhong | The symbols are available on MS public symbol server. | Apr 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | They have credibility is they POST CODE | Apr 04 23:09 |
| MinceR | what did you expect from m$dn? :> | Apr 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Claims they make about "this and that" code is like Diebolds | Apr 04 23:09 |
| MinceR | (other than http responses taking minutes to arrive, that is) | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | As the saying goes, "show me the code !!" | Apr 04 23:10 |
| yuhong | What do you mean? | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | They make PR statements | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | But they are developers | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I say, show me the code | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I can read Java and C++, so their code (even if c#) should be annotated to show what they do | Apr 04 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Then, we can see the bugs | Apr 04 23:11 |
| yuhong | Other MS blogs do post excerpts of source code sometimes. | Apr 04 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Instead, what I see in these blogs are words | Apr 04 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Words, words, words | Apr 04 23:11 |
| schestowitz | "Why did Vista not work?" | Apr 04 23:11 |
| schestowitz | MSDB "blah blah blah... next WIndows will FixEverything(R)" | Apr 04 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Or: | Apr 04 23:11 |
| schestowitz | "It's your fault, you're doing it wrong" | Apr 04 23:12 |
| yuhong | Which often is true. | Apr 04 23:12 |
| MinceR | and if they're running m$ software, they're indeed doing it wrong. | Apr 04 23:12 |
| yuhong | Other MS blogs do post excerpts of source code sometimes. | Apr 04 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates, FOCUS Magazine, 1995: | Apr 04 23:12 |
| schestowitz | "Gates: No! There are no significant bugs in our released software that any significant number of users want fixed." | Apr 04 23:12 |
| schestowitz | "FOCUS: Oh, my God. I always get mad at my computer if MS Word swallows the page numbers of a document which I printed a couple of times with page numbers. If I complain to anybody they say "Well, upgrade from version 5.11 to 6.0"." | Apr 04 23:12 |
| schestowitz | "Gates: No! If you really think there's a bug you should report a bug. Maybe you're not using it properly. Have you ever considered that?" | Apr 04 23:12 |
| yuhong | I know. | Apr 04 23:12 |
| yuhong | Other MS blogs do post excerpts of source code sometimes. | Apr 04 23:12 |
| yuhong | http://blogs.msdn.com/sdl/archive/2009/07/28/atl-ms09-035-and-the-sdl.aspx | Apr 04 23:12 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: The Security Development Lifecycle : ATL, MS09-035 and the SDL .::. Size~: 49.57 KB | Apr 04 23:12 |
| yuhong | And yes I have verified it by disassembly using IDA Pro and even made a binary patch. | Apr 04 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Let SCO print source code | Apr 04 23:13 |
| schestowitz | And show 'stolen' code | Apr 04 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Of a platform they DON'T OWN | Apr 04 23:13 |
| yuhong | I know. | Apr 04 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft owns it via Novell | Apr 04 23:14 |
| schestowitz | 'owns' | Apr 04 23:14 |
| schestowitz | In the pwnt sense | Apr 04 23:14 |
| yuhong | See my comments. | Apr 04 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Cute: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/look-at-all-ubuntu-mascots-code-names.html | Apr 04 23:15 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: A Look At All Ubuntu Mascots (Code Names) ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 101.01 KB | Apr 04 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu 12.04 Pissing Pony | Apr 04 23:16 |
| schestowitz | omg! pissing pony is in alpha! | Apr 04 23:16 |
| MinceR | Ubuntu 10.10 Microscopic Mononucleosis | Apr 04 23:17 |
| yuhong | http://techrights.org/2010/04/03/windows-7-battery-issues-confirmed/#comment-87771 | Apr 04 23:18 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Apr 04 23:18 |
| schestowitz | http://not403.blogspot.com/2010/04/kde-442-available-for-mandriva-2010.html | Apr 04 23:18 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Not 403: KDE 4.4.2 available for Mandriva 2010 !! .::. Size~: 55.67 KB | Apr 04 23:18 |
| schestowitz | This reminds me we need to redirect URLs. Is tessier_ around? | Apr 04 23:19 |
| yuhong | You know I read Raymond Chen and Larry Osterman's blog every day? | Apr 04 23:21 |
| yuhong | I find it very interesting. | Apr 04 23:21 |
| yuhong | http://techrights.org/2010/04/03/windows-7-battery-issues-confirmed/#comment-87772 | Apr 04 23:21 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Error processing the URL: .::. Size~: 0 KB | Apr 04 23:21 |
| yuhong | Notice I am trying to rebuke your_friend. | Apr 04 23:21 |
| schestowitz | ender2070: re SongBird: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/no-excuse-for-programmers-and-multiple-platforms-37847 | Apr 04 23:23 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: No excuse for programmers and multiple platforms. .::. Size~: 69.4 KB | Apr 04 23:23 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: why do you read those? | Apr 04 23:23 |
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| schestowitz | You dual-boot with Ubuntu now, no? | Apr 04 23:23 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Apr 04 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Unless you develop for WIndows | Apr 04 23:23 |
| yuhong | I do. | Apr 04 23:23 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: don't link to techrights yet, it makes duplicates in Google | Apr 04 23:24 |
| yuhong | I do a lot of Windows programming as a hobby, in fact | Apr 04 23:24 |
| MinceR | he has a deserted ubuntu partition so he can claim that he has it installed ;) | Apr 04 23:24 |
| schestowitz | We need tessier around to help out just mapping the URLs with 301, then we're good to go | Apr 04 23:24 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: gives him ammo | Apr 04 23:24 |
| schestowitz | He defends Vista now | Apr 04 23:25 |
| schestowitz | Even Seinfeld gave up, despite being paid like $20 million | Apr 04 23:25 |
| yuhong | And some Linux programming on the Linux side, but I have not played with GTK+ or Qt yet. | Apr 04 23:25 |
| MinceR | just 2 lines of shell scripting so you can claim to be proficient :> | Apr 04 23:25 |
| yuhong | Yes, I am defending Vista right now. | Apr 04 23:26 |
| yuhong | I play with C++ on both Windows and Linux. | Apr 04 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Murphy is *Still* shilling for SCO, after all those years. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1801 | Apr 04 23:26 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: A further note about SCO v. Novell | Paul Murphy | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 95.15 KB | Apr 04 23:26 |
| MinceR | lol @ ballmer's excuse for vista sucking at audio playback | Apr 04 23:26 |
| schestowitz | "I see that the jury’s decision produced the expected vacuous cheering from the groklaw hordes - but the groklaw people have it backwards: this decision was bad news for Linux and open source advocates. " | Apr 04 23:26 |
| MinceR | yuhong: you play, some of us do work. :> | Apr 04 23:27 |
| MinceR | yuhong: that's the difference between m$ and real tech companies too. | Apr 04 23:27 |
| yuhong | MinceR: I don't do much shell scripting, in fact. | Apr 04 23:27 |
| yuhong | MinceR: what do you mean? | Apr 04 23:27 |
| MinceR | you didn't say you do much C++, either. | Apr 04 23:27 |
| yuhong | I do mostly C, in fact. | Apr 04 23:27 |
| yuhong | Plain old C. | Apr 04 23:27 |
| yuhong | "that's the difference between m$ and real tech companies too." What do you mean. | Apr 04 23:28 |
| yuhong | "that's the difference between m$ and real tech companies too." What do you mean? | Apr 04 23:28 |
| yuhong | "you play, some of us do work" | Apr 04 23:28 |
| MinceR | that m$ plays while others do real work and produce usable products. | Apr 04 23:28 |
| yuhong | When I grow up I plan to do progamming work too. | Apr 04 23:28 |
| yuhong | I get it now. | Apr 04 23:28 |
| MinceR | i called attention to the fact that you called your experience with programming "playing" | Apr 04 23:29 |
| yuhong | Yes, but when I grow up I plan to do real work. | Apr 04 23:29 |
| MinceR | maybe someday you will grow up | Apr 04 23:29 |
| yuhong | Yes, and then I plan to do real work. | Apr 04 23:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | [06:16:26] <yuhong> "that's the difference between m$ and real tech companies too." What do you mean? | Apr 04 23:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | The jokes better when phrased "whats the difference between steve jobs and bill gates" | Apr 04 23:30 |
| MinceR | nothing? | Apr 04 23:30 |
| MinceR | or that gates does the same thing more successfully? | Apr 04 23:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | Bill Gates is the ultimate businessman, he destroys or buys all alternatives so you only have one choice... Steve Jobs is the ultimate salesman, he merely makes you believe Apple is the only choice you'll ever need | Apr 04 23:31 |
| yuhong | I don't defend MS all the time though. I know about the Intel/MS AML compiler disaster, for example. | Apr 04 23:31 |
| satipera | Roy, warm milk beginning to run through my veins after the days excess, my apologies for using the language I did, it was uncalled for, really I have support for what you do and do my best to support it my technical ignorance. Do hope we hyave not fallen out. | Apr 04 23:31 |
| yuhong | "Bill Gates is the ultimate businessman, he destroys or buys all alternatives so you only have one choice... St" | Apr 04 23:31 |
| yuhong | "Bill Gates is the ultimate businessman, he destroys or buys all alternatives so you only have one choice..." Yea, I think that is part of why MS ended up being so evil. | Apr 04 23:32 |
| yuhong | Compare with Larry and Sergey of Google. | Apr 04 23:32 |
| yuhong | And the reason I mention it is because of this: | Apr 04 23:33 |
| yuhong | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1604884&cid=31712638 | Apr 04 23:33 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Slashdot Comments | Standards Expert — "Microsoft Fails the Standards Test" .::. Size~: 40.01 KB | Apr 04 23:33 |
| yuhong | Notice I had to rebuke. | Apr 04 23:33 |
| cubezzz | Gates time is over | Apr 04 23:33 |
| schestowitz | satipera: np :-) | Apr 04 23:33 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: in software maybe | Apr 04 23:33 |
| schestowitz | he does other things now | Apr 04 23:33 |
| schestowitz | other monopolies | Apr 04 23:33 |
| MinceR | yuhong: your "rebuke" is pathetic. | Apr 04 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Gates came to software for money | Apr 04 23:34 |
| schestowitz | He was a lawyer | Apr 04 23:34 |
| MinceR | i see you feel the urge to defend m$ tooth and nail everywhere, but you can't pull it off. | Apr 04 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Still looking for money, using other means | Apr 04 23:34 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, I'm pretty sure he uses Linux too | Apr 04 23:34 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@everydaywitch Palin read "Where The Wild Things Are" and is now demanding a map. // it's set in an oilfield?? | Apr 04 23:34 | |
| yuhong | Are you referring to the slashdot rebuke or something else? | Apr 04 23:34 |
| cubezzz | anyways, Amiga or Sparc next :) | Apr 04 23:35 |
| yuhong | "Notice I had to rebuke" referred to http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1604884&cid=31712638. | Apr 04 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/04/im-collecting-you.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Acos+%28AC%2FOS%29 | Apr 04 23:35 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: AC/OS: I'm collecting you.. .::. Size~: 55.49 KB | Apr 04 23:35 |
| MinceR | yuhong: to the /. one. | Apr 04 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Mac Asay: "A good friend of mine, Jason Matusow..." | Apr 04 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Jason Matusow is Microsoft's OOXML gangster | Apr 04 23:35 |
| yuhong | I was not defending MS here. | Apr 04 23:36 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yeah, the m$ and crApple cults are pretty much intertwined. | Apr 04 23:36 |
| MinceR | yuhong: yeah, tell yourself that. | Apr 04 23:36 |
| yuhong | I know about the disaster that was OOXML. | Apr 04 23:36 |
| cubezzz | who here uses non x86 cpu? | Apr 04 23:36 |
| schestowitz | http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-stand-all-amazed.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Acos+%28AC%2FOS%29 "Could this world be any better? I mean, really? ..." | Apr 04 23:36 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: AC/OS: I stand all amazed .::. Size~: 58.04 KB | Apr 04 23:36 |
| yuhong | I am trying to defend Google. | Apr 04 23:36 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: my mobile phones have non x86 CPUs | Apr 04 23:36 |
| schestowitz | "I'm on a 767 flying home to Salt Lake." | Apr 04 23:36 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: and the ZX Spectrum in the cupboard :> | Apr 04 23:36 |
| cubezzz | ah | Apr 04 23:37 |
| yuhong | Notice the part of the comment I quoted. | Apr 04 23:37 |
| schestowitz | "(Admission: I'm writing this from first class, after a surprise upgrade. It's possible I wouldn't be exuding so much praise if I were in 37B.)" | Apr 04 23:37 |
| cubezzz | I should have kept my commodore boxes | Apr 04 23:37 |
| yuhong | I was not intending to defend MS (the OOXML was indeed a real disaster). | Apr 04 23:37 |
| yuhong | I was not intending to defend MS (the OOXML was indeed a real disaster) in the slashdot comment. | Apr 04 23:37 |
| yuhong | "The ugly fact is that no American corp in a monopoly position can do anything other than cheat and lie and steal in the end. It is ingrained in the business culture and all that is required for any traded corp to be made to work this way is a bit of investor and executive turnover with a sprinkling of lawsuits. Even Google will succumb to this as their regular M.O. eventually." | Apr 04 23:38 |
| yuhong | Rebunking this. | Apr 04 23:38 |
| MinceR | yuhong: you aren't "rebunking" anything. | Apr 04 23:38 |
| yuhong | Why? | Apr 04 23:38 |
| MinceR | yuhong: you said "i would not go that far" and then you compared him to someone else | Apr 04 23:39 |
| schestowitz | More religious creeds: http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/04/two-things-guide-mealbeit-imperfectly.html | Apr 04 23:39 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: AC/OS: Two things guide me...albeit imperfectly .::. Size~: 59.96 KB | Apr 04 23:39 |
| MinceR | yuhong: no facts, no reasoning, no nothing. | Apr 04 23:39 |
| MinceR | yuhong: this is not "debunking" if that's the word you were looking for | Apr 04 23:39 |
| yuhong | Sorry. | Apr 04 23:39 |
| cubezzz | MinceR: http://www.a-eon.com/6.html | Apr 04 23:39 |
| MinceR | yuhong: and most importantly, no counterexamples. | Apr 04 23:39 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: X is many things .::. Size~: 9.87 KB | Apr 04 23:39 |
| yuhong | But I was certainly not defending MS here. | Apr 04 23:39 |
| schestowitz | US tech coalition calls for new online privacy law http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8595775.stm | Apr 04 23:40 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 86.65 KB | Apr 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: i'm underwhelmed by amigaos | Apr 04 23:40 |
| yuhong | So maybe my rebuttal was not very good. | Apr 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | yuhong: you were defending all the usian megacorps, primarily m$. | Apr 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "I'm not an apologist, but..." | Apr 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | yuhong: "i would not go that far" is not a "rebuttal", either. | Apr 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | If you are seen as a solid defender, then you are less credible | Apr 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: he has absolutely no credibility. | Apr 04 23:41 |
| MinceR | never had any. | Apr 04 23:41 |
| yuhong | "you were defending all the usian megacorps" other than MS. | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: it's about what you do and say | Apr 04 23:41 |
| cubezzz | well no X1000 yet | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Many times you do this | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | You go like, "Vista is OK.... but hey, I'm not defending VIsta" | Apr 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | This has become comical | Apr 04 23:41 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: what's the CPU in all this? the "X1000"? | Apr 04 23:41 |
| yuhong | "Vista is OK.... but hey, I'm not defending VIsta" for something else. | Apr 04 23:42 |
| MinceR | also, "most powerful and up-to-date platform for running amigaos" is saying very little, to say the least. :> | Apr 04 23:42 |
| yuhong | I am not defending Vista | Apr 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | amigos? :-) | Apr 04 23:42 |
| yuhong | I am not defending Vista's DRM. | Apr 04 23:42 |
| yuhong | DRM is definitely bad. | Apr 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | Here we go again | Apr 04 23:42 |
| schestowitz | LMAO | Apr 04 23:42 |
| yuhong | I am merely challenging claims that look like they go too far. | Apr 04 23:43 |
| *MinceR waits for the "...but vista, vista7 and WMP are totally great!" | Apr 04 23:43 | |
| schestowitz | grate | Apr 04 23:43 |
| MinceR | and apparently any claim criticizing m$ for their crimes is "going too far" | Apr 04 23:43 |
| cubezzz | Doze isn't good | Apr 04 23:43 |
| yuhong | Nope. | Apr 04 23:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: hey !! | Apr 04 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I would not go that far | Apr 04 23:43 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 04 23:43 |
| MinceR | oh noes, now i've been rebutted | Apr 04 23:44 |
| yuhong | schestowitz: Glad you agree with me. | Apr 04 23:44 |
| MinceR | and rebuked, and similarly looking words | Apr 04 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=%22+I+would+not+go+that+far%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Apr 04 23:44 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: " I would not go that far" - Google Search .::. Size~: 28.29 KB | Apr 04 23:44 |
| cubezzz | Dual-core PowerISA v2.04+ CPU | Apr 04 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:boycottnovell.com+%22+I+would+not+go+that+far%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GB | Apr 04 23:44 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: site:boycottnovell.com " I would not go that far" - Google Search .::. Size~: 28.37 KB | Apr 04 23:44 |
| schestowitz | yuhong monopolised this phrase in the site \0/ | Apr 04 23:44 |
| yuhong | Funny. | Apr 04 23:44 |
| cubezzz | and... | Apr 04 23:45 |
| cubezzz | http://www.natami.net/index.htm | Apr 04 23:45 |
| schestowitz | " Results 1 - 10 of about 173" | Apr 04 23:45 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Natami Project Home Page .::. Size~: 3.44 KB | Apr 04 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Does. Not. Compute. | Apr 04 23:45 |
| cubezzz | http://www.natami.net/hardware.htm | Apr 04 23:46 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Natami Project Home Page .::. Size~: 8.34 KB | Apr 04 23:46 |
| yuhong | Anyway, notice I have never challenged all of your_friend claims, I know some of them are true. | Apr 04 23:46 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: would it be worth exposing asay's "good friends" to make it more obvious whom canonical is making "friends" with now? | Apr 04 23:46 |
| MinceR | yuhong: the claims you "challenged" were true too | Apr 04 23:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/eWeek-Labs-new-site/?kc=rss\ | Apr 04 23:48 |
| schestowitz | http://labs.eweek.com/review/review-centos-5-4-centos-5-3-has-keen-focus-on-virtualization/ | Apr 04 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Oh no | Apr 04 23:48 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Ziff Davis Enterprise launches product review site - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.67 KB | Apr 04 23:48 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: CentOS Has Keen Focus on Virtualization « eWEEK Labs .::. Size~: 20.8 KB | Apr 04 23:48 |
| yuhong | I challenged them because it seemed that they go too far. | Apr 04 23:48 |
| schestowitz | Ziff |Gates as it's known to many | Apr 04 23:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Hilf | Apr 04 23:48 |
| MinceR | yuhong: yes, they all seem to go too far for any m$ apologist | Apr 04 23:48 |
| yuhong | I challenged them because it seemed that they go too far, which looked to me that they were probably untrue. | Apr 04 23:48 |
| schestowitz | He's friends with others in Microsoft | Apr 04 23:48 |
| yuhong | Really? | Apr 04 23:48 |
| yuhong | I could easily make friends with them, true. | Apr 04 23:49 |
| schestowitz | http://vogons.zetafleet.com/files/orly.jpg | Apr 04 23:49 |
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| MinceR | yuhong: we were discussing asay, not you | Apr 04 23:49 |
| yuhong | Ok. | Apr 04 23:49 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: no, not you | Apr 04 23:49 |
| schestowitz | MacAsay | Apr 04 23:49 |
| yuhong | OK, sorry. | Apr 04 23:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #iPad jailbroken https://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/04/2223237 by @MuscleNerd | Apr 04 23:49 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Win-Enterprises-PL80190/?kc=rss | Apr 04 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Rusn Fedora | Apr 04 23:50 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Rugged box PC offers choice of Pineview Atom CPUs - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.2 KB | Apr 04 23:50 |
| schestowitz | *runs | Apr 04 23:50 |
| yuhong | "yes, they all seem to go too far for any m$ apologist" but not to me, I have done research and can prove some of your_friend's claims are true, which is why I don't rebuke them. | Apr 04 23:50 |
| MinceR | why didn't you prove those claims wrong, then? | Apr 04 23:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #iPad jailbroken https://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/04/04/2223237 @comex via @MuscleNerd #apple #drm #defectivebydesign | Apr 04 23:50 | |
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| yuhong | Because I know they are true. | Apr 04 23:50 |
| MinceR | you keep saying you have knowledge yet all we get from you is "i would not go that far" | Apr 04 23:51 |
| MinceR | sounds like assertions from faith to me. | Apr 04 23:51 |
| yuhong | I say it because it looks like it might be untrue to me, not because I confirmed it. | Apr 04 23:52 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] It is interesting to find that Jason Matusow, one of the main OOXML conspirator, is Mac Asay's mate. http://ur1.ca/tawq | Apr 04 23:52 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: AC/OS: I'm collecting you.. .::. Size~: 55.49 KB | Apr 04 23:52 |
| yuhong | Any poster is welcome to rebuke by providing evidence. | Apr 04 23:52 |
| MinceR | so you haven't done conclusive research after all | Apr 04 23:52 |
| yuhong | No. | Apr 04 23:53 |
| MinceR | you "rebuke" by saying that they said falsehoods and now they're somehow required to prove things to you, while you just stand by and keep saying "i would not go that far" | Apr 04 23:53 |
| MinceR | i doubt anyone will take you seriously. :> | Apr 04 23:53 |
| MinceR | also, your claim that "I have done research" is meaningless after all | Apr 04 23:54 |
| yuhong | And others did. | Apr 04 23:54 |
| MinceR | and probably the "can prove" claim is false as well | Apr 04 23:54 |
| MinceR | what "others"? other m$ apologists? | Apr 04 23:54 |
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| MinceR | did that "research" consist of more than saying "i would not go far"? | Apr 04 23:55 |
| MinceR | +that | Apr 04 23:55 |
| yuhong | Yes, I do a lot of research on the web everyday. | Apr 04 23:55 |
| MinceR | i see, you call browsing and reading unproven statements on m$ blogs "research" | Apr 04 23:55 |
| yuhong | No. | Apr 04 23:56 |
| yuhong | I read plenty of web sites everyday. | Apr 04 23:56 |
| MinceR | oh, i see | Apr 04 23:56 |
| yuhong | Ars, TechCrunch, so on... | Apr 04 23:56 |
| MinceR | so browsing _plenty_ of web sites is "research" | Apr 04 23:56 |
| yuhong | Yes. | Apr 04 23:56 |
| yuhong | I have seen some of the issues raised by Guttman discussed on AnandTech, for example. | Apr 04 23:57 |
| MinceR | even if they only contain assertions of various kinds and you filter them and keep the ones that are favorable to m$ | Apr 04 23:57 |
| yuhong | Which I don | Apr 04 23:57 |
| MinceR | without support of claims | Apr 04 23:57 |
| yuhong | Which I don't. | Apr 04 23:57 |
| yuhong | I have sometimes disassembled code too. | Apr 04 23:57 |
| MinceR | so you keep claiming you do "research" and yet your "rebuttals" consist of saying 'that's not true!' | Apr 04 23:57 |
| MinceR | i have disassembled code, too. | Apr 04 23:58 |
| MinceR | big deal. | Apr 04 23:58 |
| yuhong | Yes, I mean "this is probably not true". | Apr 04 23:58 |
| MinceR | that must be really convincing | Apr 04 23:58 |
| MinceR | especially with the amount of proof you provide (0) | Apr 04 23:58 |
| yuhong | Others provided evidence that it was true, and I believe them. | Apr 04 23:58 |
| cubezzz | if you have source, you don't need to dissemble :) | Apr 04 23:58 |
| yuhong | Others provided evidence that it was true, and I believed them. | Apr 04 23:59 |
| MinceR | yet you haven't referenced that supposed "evidence" | Apr 04 23:59 |
| MinceR | it's just like m$'s "proof" that Linux contains code that belongs to m$. | Apr 04 23:59 |
| cubezzz | bah | Apr 04 23:59 |
| yuhong | And it is by doing research that I know that it could be believed. | Apr 04 23:59 |
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