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| schestowitz[TR] | Subject: Github Copilot lawsuit | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 07:08:20 +0900 (JST) | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | From: Akira Urushibata <afu@wta.att.ne.jp> | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | References; <2023.02.16.06.17.13.131492001@afu.wta.att.ne.jp>, | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <f3ba1cf3-c547-7fe4-5e4a-8585185d5873@disroot.org>, | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <f68c3850-65be-487e-2ef6-56beeb65cdbf@shellblade.net>, | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | <2023.02.19.09.06.07.127534277@afu.wta.att.ne.jp> | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | In February I posted a message to this list concerning generative AI | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | systems known to be trained with commonly available free software | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | source providing computer code. | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | libreplanet-discuss (thread) Feb 2023 | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2023-02/threads.html | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I was not aware that a few months before, in November 2022, a group of | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | programmers had filed a suit against Github, Microsoft and OpenAI, | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | claiming that Github was violating their stated terms of service and | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the generative AI system was illegally removing copyright license | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | notices. | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | The defendants desired to have the case dismissed. They argued that | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | the source code remains available; their current practice does not | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | forfeit anything from the plaintiffs. The presiding judge has decided | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | that the plaintiffs have sufficient ground for the case to be accepted. | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Key points brought forth by them will at least be heard. | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | The defendants are aware that their system produces output with | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | copyright license notices removed. Those who don't see the license | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | notice are not going to respect the terms. This will provide | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | opportunities to exploit free software in ways that the original | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | authors would have never anticipated. | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | This is a case free software authors and users should pay attention to. | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | I believe the FSF should make an official statement now or at some point | Jun 03 02:23 |
| schestowitz[TR] | in the near future. | Jun 03 02:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.gnu.org | libreplanet-discuss (thread) | Jun 03 02:23 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/11/survey-have-you-been-able-to-access.html?showComment=1685633770529#c5665350780952111267 "The system is up and tested in a Gamma - Version by German users. It changes permanently and does not work with all browsers said to be working. i have been lucky to get a good help by d-trust, who helped me through the not self explainatory procedure to become an authenticated user and then to open CMS with | Jun 03 03:29 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Edge. No other browser worked. Today it is only Chrome that works satisfactorily. And I still get errors when trying to lodge documents ( I am working with a Mandate). I think it would be nice to send UPC an invoice for the work we have to make it work. We need a stable system and not a developing program. I checked this with other German European Patent ATtorneys - they are all very disappointed." | Jun 03 03:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Survey] Have you been able to access the UPC's Case Management System via strong authentication? - The IPKat | Jun 03 03:29 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/us-supreme-court-decision-in-amgen-v.html?showComment=1685608171885#c154316961890392309 | Jun 03 03:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | "We're now going through an era where patent offices and patent courts are no longer blinded by the science in biotech case, so we're going to get much more considered decisions such as this resetting the boundaries on what is patentable in key biotech fields. We've already seen how much more difficult it is to refer to homologues defined by percentage identity for DNA and protein cases, and now it's time for the antibody field to a | Jun 03 03:30 |
| schestowitz[TR] | lso be brought into line in terms of what is fair in the field. Where different parties are targetting the same protein with antibodies it's only fair everyone only gets claims to their own antibodies and not go beyond that. That reflects the R&D reality, and this is a very good decision from the Supreme Court which will help the field immensely" | Jun 03 03:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | US Supreme Court decision in Amgen v Sanofi: The European Perspective - The IPKat | Jun 03 03:30 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/05/inauguration-of-unified-patent-court.html?showComment=1685542404866#c4436180352813160845 | Jun 03 03:31 |
| schestowitz[TR] | EPO has a good overview: https://documents.epo.org/projects/babylon/eponot.nsf/0/FCE7ECF7D75918FDC125836800583391/$File/the_jurisdiction_of_european_courts_in_patent_disputes_en.pdf | Jun 03 03:31 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Inauguration of Unified Patent Court held today in Luxembourg - The IPKat | Jun 03 03:31 | |
| schestowitz[TR] | "Solely the national tribunals are competent to decide infringement." That's since Brussels/Lugano Convention/Brussels I regulation not the case anymore...." | Jun 03 03:31 |
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| schestowitz[TR] | Re: OpenSource.com shut down | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Hi Dr Schestowitz, | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Thank you for your articles at TechRights.org. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | You're welcome. We try to cover "difficult" topics others do not. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > To confirm what you already know about the suspension of OpenSource.com, | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > for the past several years I've contributed a few articles to them each | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > year. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > When I submitted my most recent article, I received a message saying in | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > part -- | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > /"...The [Red Hat] Digital Communities sites are rich repositories read | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > by hundreds of/ | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > /thousands of people, which is why we are keeping the sites (and content)/ | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > /online, but will not be publishing new articles on them. If you've | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > drafted/ | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > /something for publication on one of our community sites, we encourage you/ | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > /to publish that content elsewhere."/ | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | So it sounds like they at least plan to keep the current "catalogue" online, but how long for? With sites that lack activity the incentive is reduced as a function of time, due to various factors. Age deranks pages, sometimes delists them. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > I responded to them that OpenSource.com is a very valuable piece of | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > internet real estate, but that this value would decline drastically if | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > new articles did not occasionally appear. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | Similar problem with OpenSource.org and Linux.com. They were taken over by (covertly) hostile voices. Linux.org is barely active, but not covertly hostile. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Not surprisingly, I received no reply to this "sage advice." | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > If you know any widely read tech websites that would appreciate the | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > occasional linux techie article, please let me know. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | TechRights and TuxMachines probably have lower reach than OpenSource.com, but they're still big and eager to publish for you. | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | > Cheers and thank you, | Jun 03 12:33 |
| schestowitz[TR] | You too. | Jun 03 12:33 |
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