| *jono has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 00:03 | |
| *jono (n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 00:04 | |
| *fewa has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | Nov 04 00:17 | |
| *fewa_ is now known as fewa | Nov 04 00:17 | |
| schestowitz | fewa: I finished watching all those videos you gave | Nov 04 00:18 |
|---|---|---|
| schestowitz | I'm linking to some | Nov 04 00:18 |
| schestowitz | If only there were more oggs | Nov 04 00:18 |
| *merriam_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 00:19 | |
| *merriam_ (n=merriam@wmerriam.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 00:20 | |
| *stefanc has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 00:23 | |
| schestowitz | I ought to microblog some news..... | Nov 04 00:26 |
| schestowitz | Lessig quit blogging in lessig.org. Is he still involved in activism at all? | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | <p align="center"><a href="" title="Read the log"><img src="http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/116px-Gartoon-Gedit-icon.png" border="0" hspace="20" vspace="4" alt="GNOME Gedit" /></a></p> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | <p align="center"> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | <font size="5"><a href="" title="Read the log">Read the log</a></font> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | </p> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | <p align="center"> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | <font size="5"><a href="http://boycottnovell.com/irc-channel/" title="IRC Channel">Enter the IRC channel now</a></font> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | </p> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: IRC Channel | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 70.43 KB | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | <p>To use your own IRC client, join channel #boycottnovell in <a href="irc://irc.freenode.org">FreeNode</a>.</p> | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | IRC Log for November xxxth, 2009 | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | irc-log-xxxx112009 | Nov 04 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Darn | Nov 04 00:30 |
| *bard (i=c096b146@gateway/web/freenode/x-9b577d9da00298da) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 00:32 | |
| cubezzz | ? | Nov 04 00:32 |
| *bard has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | I hit the middle mouse button | Nov 04 00:34 |
| schestowitz | That's just a template for IRC posts, of which I've just done one | Nov 04 00:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Big day today for GNU and Linux....KDE 4.3.3 released, Mandriva 2010 Released, ogg wins, and more... | Nov 04 00:37 | |
| *fewa_ (n=fewa__@unaffiliated/fewa) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 00:46 | |
| *Tallken has quit ("Leaving") | Nov 04 00:56 | |
| *sebsebseb has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 00:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux in a Nutshell Author #Interview http://bit.ly/1kZYde | Nov 04 00:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Roundup of #Bioinformatics Software for #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/3uPojk | Nov 04 00:58 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Free and Open Source Bioinformatics Software for Linux | TECH SOURCE FROM BOHOL .::. Size~: 93.82 KB | Nov 04 00:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Applications Run #Windows Wares in #GNU #Linux More Smoothly http://ur1.ca/ez24 | Nov 04 01:01 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Version of #KDE Released, Eye on KDE 4.4 http://ur1.ca/f2ui http://ur1.ca/f2uj | Nov 04 01:02 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KDE 4.3.3 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 29.11 KB | Nov 04 01:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: [Phoronix] New Features For KDE 4.4 Desktop .::. Size~: 16.11 KB | Nov 04 01:02 |
| *fewa_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 01:02 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Plasma Team Improves Themes Management in #KDE http://ur1.ca/f2uq http://ur1.ca/f2us | Nov 04 01:03 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Tale of a little pixel - Easier Plasma themes creation .::. Size~: 12.4 KB | Nov 04 01:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KDE Plasma Netbook GUI: Admitting Limitations — Datamation.com .::. Size~: 70.23 KB | Nov 04 01:03 |
| *wallc (i=62a521f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-707bfa547f759887) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 01:03 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] News About #KDE Applications and a #Conference http://ur1.ca/f2vb http://ur1.ca/f2vc http://ur1.ca/f2vd http://ur1.ca/f2ve | Nov 04 01:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: aseigo: KRunner from the top? .::. Size~: 175.21 KB | Nov 04 01:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Moving to digiKam « Scribbles and Snaps .::. Size~: 31.51 KB | Nov 04 01:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: NLUUG Conference on Open Web | KDE.news .::. Size~: 20.53 KB | Nov 04 01:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Amarok joins the Software Freedom Conservancy - Amarok Blog .::. Size~: 32.54 KB | Nov 04 01:09 |
| *_goblin has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Nov 04 01:10 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CAINE #GNU #Linux Distribution Released http://ur1.ca/f2vl | Nov 04 01:10 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Computer Aided Investigative Environment 1.0 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 31.04 KB | Nov 04 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Hey, wallc | Nov 04 01:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vector #GNU #Linux 6 Works Very Well http://bit.ly/3wXZ35 | Nov 04 01:12 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Raiden's Realm: Review: Vector Linux 6 Standard .::. Size~: 31.55 KB | Nov 04 01:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GoblinX #GNU #Linux Distribution Comes in Four Different Flavours Now http://ur1.ca/f2vt | Nov 04 01:13 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: GoblinX An Alternative OS With 4 Different Flavors .::. Size~: 40.94 KB | Nov 04 01:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gentoo Founder to Work on #GRUB #Fork http://bit.ly/3MsiOT | Nov 04 01:15 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Funtoo by Daniel Robbins: Crazy weekend .::. Size~: 59.72 KB | Nov 04 01:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Release of #Mandriva Announced Early http://bit.ly/4sibFn | Nov 04 01:19 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Mandriva 2010.0 is out!! « Colin.Guthr.ie .::. Size~: 34.29 KB | Nov 04 01:19 |
| *DaemonFC (i=Ryan@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 01:20 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Still Behind Mandriva in Quality http://ur1.ca/ezqd I've used both and I still recommend Driva' | Nov 04 01:21 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 12 Already Looking Great http://bit.ly/hgvmE | Nov 04 01:22 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Review: Red Hat's Fedora 12 Beta Operating System - News - eWeekEurope.co.uk .::. Size~: 23.35 KB | Nov 04 01:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what's with that racist remark you made earlier? Have you no shame? | Nov 04 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | Of course I do | Nov 04 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | just not for most things | Nov 04 01:23 |
| schestowitz | You're just trying to piss people off | Nov 04 01:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu 9.10 Already Has Core of #GNOME 3 in Repository http://ur1.ca/f2w5 http://ur1.ca/f1yx | Nov 04 01:25 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Install GNOME-Shell on Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala / Ubuntu Tutorials : Hardy Intrepid Jaunty Karmic .::. Size~: 46.94 KB | Nov 04 01:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Previewing Gnome Shell in Ubuntu | WorksWithU .::. Size~: 44.78 KB | Nov 04 01:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] K/Ubuntu 10.x Development Already Under Way http://ur1.ca/f2wc http://ur1.ca/f2wi | Nov 04 01:26 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lucid open for development | The Fridge .::. Size~: 10.58 KB | Nov 04 01:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OMG! UBUNTU!: Kubuntu Project Timelord Announced .::. Size~: 91.82 KB | Nov 04 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | Gimmick-Shell | Nov 04 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why they have to mimic Microsoft, and make people relearn everything even though the last shell was working fine | Nov 04 01:27 |
| *amarsh04_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | Nov 04 01:27 | |
| DaemonFC | gives the "impression" of progress instead of actual progress | Nov 04 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't new, Microsoft has been needlessly shifting things around in the shell since Windows 98 came out | Nov 04 01:28 |
| schestowitz | Windows is not the only OS | Nov 04 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft copies other people's stuff endlessly | Nov 04 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah, but a lot of other shells tend to mimic it | Nov 04 01:29 |
| schestowitz | Everything you see, you think "Windows!!" | Nov 04 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | have to do things the Windows way just as soon as they see one of the developer previews of the new version | Nov 04 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | Apple and Microsoft are two of the same thing, they're really just Coke and Pepsi | Nov 04 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of things in a GUI that just make sense. They're there in everyone's GUI because wheels tend to work best when they're round. | Nov 04 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Nevertheless, there's always accusations of "theft" going around even though everyone copies everyone else | Nov 04 01:33 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 9.10 Called "Impressive" http://bit.ly/15fRgf | Nov 04 01:33 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu 9.10 in the clouds | greenhughes.com .::. Size~: 42.88 KB | Nov 04 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | New IE patch patches the last patch: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=976749 | Nov 04 01:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: An update is available for Internet Explorer that resolves issues that occur after you apply security update 974455 (MS09-054) .::. Size~: 138.73 KB | Nov 04 01:33 |
| *DaemonFC has quit ("Leaving") | Nov 04 01:36 | |
| *amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-58-74.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 01:37 | |
| cubezzz | everything I see I think "Xerox" | Nov 04 01:38 |
| *DaemonFC (i=Ryan@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 01:39 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Subnotebooks Still Good for #GNU #Linux , Growth Continues http://ur1.ca/f2wu http://ur1.ca/f2wv http://ur1.ca/f2ww | Nov 04 01:41 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Addons for Sun's #OpenOffice .org, #ZFS Gets Deduplicator http://ur1.ca/f2wy http://ur1.ca/f0ga | Nov 04 01:41 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Review: 3 free Linux alternatives for your netbook .::. Size~: 134.05 KB | Nov 04 01:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Eee-Control for Ubuntu 9.10 released: Control your netbook clock speed .::. Size~: 24.21 KB | Nov 04 01:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 3 recent OpenOffice.org extensions | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 44.48 KB | Nov 04 01:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: ZFS gets inline dedupe • The Register .::. Size~: 31.19 KB | Nov 04 01:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Interview with #FreeSoftware -based #Qi , #IBM VP on Free Software http://ur1.ca/f2x0 http://ur1.ca/f2x1 | Nov 04 01:42 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Interview: Qi Hardware « OpenBusiness .::. Size~: 16.88 KB | Nov 04 01:42 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bob Sutor On Advice For Open Source Startups .::. Size~: 32.93 KB | Nov 04 01:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Brazil So Confident About #Linux -based #VotingMachines That It Lets Hackers Test Them http://ur1.ca/f2x8 | Nov 04 01:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Hardware Story | Contest To Hack Brazilian Voting Machines .::. Size~: 148.11 KB | Nov 04 01:43 |
| schestowitz | gn | Nov 04 01:45 |
| amarsh04_ | night schestowitz | Nov 04 01:49 |
| *_tughbpencil has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 02:18 | |
| *jono has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 02:20 | |
| *__Balrog__ (n=__Balrog@32.164.60.245) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 02:24 | |
| *__Balrog__ (n=__Balrog@32.164.60.245) has left #boycottnovell | Nov 04 02:28 | |
| *Balrog_ (n=Balrog@32.164.60.245) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 02:29 | |
| *Ender2070 (n=ender207@bas3-toronto63-1088756701.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 02:31 | |
| *jono (n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 02:39 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2355268,00.asp | Nov 04 02:41 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: T-Mobile Service Goes Down For Many - Reviews by PC Magazine .::. Size~: 88.1 KB | Nov 04 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | Another Microsoft screw-up? | Nov 04 02:41 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] yeah, mock hangs X( ; But koji build is successful; Any idea? | Nov 04 02:45 | |
| *zer0c00l (n=user@117.199.130.60) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 02:46 | |
| *jono has quit (Connection timed out) | Nov 04 02:56 | |
| *jono (n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 02:56 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] This is #interesting http://tinyurl.com/yzc9dwv #web #girl #advice | Nov 04 03:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Aishwarya-Still Searching Who I Am.......: Why these people are still in "Stone Age"? .::. Size~: 80.31 KB | Nov 04 03:00 |
| *kernel (n=c++@125.160.55.97) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 03:04 | |
| *ThistleWeb has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Nov 04 03:08 | |
| *trenaught (i=79d91ed1@gateway/web/freenode/x-47a7ceb33a0d8e4e) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 03:09 | |
| *kernel has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 03:11 | |
| *Diablo-D3 (n=diablo@68.238.49.173) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 03:52 | |
| *oiaohm (n=oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 03:57 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #AT&T sues #Verizon for telling the truth http://ur1.ca/f379 | Nov 04 04:00 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: AT&T sues Verizon over 'there's a map for that' ads .::. Size~: 144.2 KB | Nov 04 04:00 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Ubuntu is a plot to destroy #Linux http://ur1.ca/f37f | Nov 04 04:05 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Some Early Adopters Stung By Ubuntu's Karmic Koala .::. Size~: 172.13 KB | Nov 04 04:05 |
| *zer0c00l is now known as zer0c00l|Breakfa | Nov 04 04:06 | |
| *zer0c00l|Breakfa is now known as zer0c00l|Away | Nov 04 04:06 | |
| *zer0c00l|Away has quit ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") | Nov 04 04:06 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #BlackBerry #Netbook, RIM jealous of #Android? http://ur1.ca/f37s #google | Nov 04 04:10 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Rejoice! BlackBerry support arrives on Celio REDFLY .::. Size~: 93.82 KB | Nov 04 04:10 |
| DaemonFC | 75% of Windows 7 growth comes at the expense of Vista, only about 20% comes at the expense of XP | Nov 04 04:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/11/03/windows-7-begins-the-long-process-of-replacing-vista-and-xp/ | Nov 04 04:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Windows 7 begins the long process of replacing Vista and XP .::. Size~: 31.26 KB | Nov 04 04:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not sure why everyone is worried, btw | Nov 04 04:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | most w7 sales wont happen until around the time sp1 is slated to come out | Nov 04 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, Windows 7 is not really a full upgrade over Vista | Nov 04 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | it's something in between a service pack and a new version of Windows | Nov 04 04:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, but its buggy | Nov 04 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | XP SP2 was a bigger change than Vista to 7 | Nov 04 04:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | and follows the new windows rule | Nov 04 04:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | wait until sp1 | Nov 04 04:17 |
| Ender2070 | nah | Nov 04 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, That's never been a new rule | Nov 04 04:17 |
| Ender2070 | win7 is vista sp3 | Nov 04 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | any NT 4 user could have told you what a mess that was | Nov 04 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | same for 2000, XP, and Vista | Nov 04 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | in Vista's case it actually took two service packs to get it to be somewhat dependable | Nov 04 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | I think the only RTM Windows version I've been OK with was Windows 2003 | Nov 04 04:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: no | Nov 04 04:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | the "new windows" ruke. | Nov 04 04:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | the rule is old | Nov 04 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | oh, right | Nov 04 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 04 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't ran into many bugs in 7 that aren't there in Vista SP2 | Nov 04 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | they may have even fixed some | Nov 04 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | but there's just not that many new features worth mentioning | Nov 04 04:20 |
| oiaohm | There is nothing in 7 to get the market back from those who jumped to Linux. | Nov 04 04:27 |
| oiaohm | Thing is the phone OS makers are going to be crossing turf with the desktop makers. | Nov 04 04:28 |
| oiaohm | I don't see anything MS has done sets up for this kind of battle. | Nov 04 04:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: well | Nov 04 04:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd use windows | Nov 04 04:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they'd have to do me favors | Nov 04 04:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously, I'd go out and buy 7 if they'd do it for me | Nov 04 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, XP users are not buying it as upgrade discs | Nov 04 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'd imagine the 0.5% loss for XP is people buying new PCs | Nov 04 04:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | 1) allow me to configure the fucking mouse behavior so I can middle click to paste and not have to click to focus | Nov 04 04:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats the worst fucking problem | Nov 04 04:31 |
| amarsh04_ | it's amazing how quickly people take to focus follows mouse if given the chance to try it | Nov 04 04:37 |
| *lohse (i=634106fb@gateway/web/freenode/x-9e8dc7aa43a24073) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 05:01 | |
| *lohse has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 05:04 | |
| *zer0c00l (n=user@117.199.142.45) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 05:04 | |
| DaemonFC | http://blogs.howstuffworks.com/2009/11/03/public-service-announcement-if-you-donate-a-kidney-you-may-have-to-pay-a-lot/ | Nov 04 05:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Public Service Announcement If you donate a kidney, you may have to pay& a lot The Blogs at HowStuffWorks .::. Size~: 44.32 KB | Nov 04 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091101/1818186751.shtml | Nov 04 05:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 60 Minutes Puts Forth Laughable, Factually Incorrect MPAA Propaganda On Movie Piracy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 214.78 KB | Nov 04 05:07 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Star movies is screening good movies today; Now signs and next is 'pulp fiction' xD | Nov 04 05:20 | |
| cubezzz | yes I saw that | Nov 04 05:23 |
| *DaemonFC has quit ("Leaving") | Nov 04 05:28 | |
| *amarsh04__ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-115-244.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 05:37 | |
| *amarsh04_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 05:38 | |
| *amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-22-140.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 05:39 | |
| *jmpnop has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 05:48 | |
| *tessier has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 05:48 | |
| *tessier (n=treed@kernel-panic/sex-machines) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 05:48 | |
| *jmpnop (n=vacit@94.229.57.45) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 05:48 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to tessier jmpnop | Nov 04 05:48 | |
| *amarsh04_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 05:50 | |
| *amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-59-176.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 05:50 | |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 05:52 | |
| *amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 05:55 | |
| *wallc has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 06:17 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Recently I tweeted "flu got the swine at last" abt Modi Flu . Kafila Reports Gujarat way of handling such messages http://tr.im/E5pX | Nov 04 06:30 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Narendra Modi Murdabad! Murdabad, murdabad! « Kafila .::. Size~: 55.59 KB | Nov 04 06:30 |
| *Balrog_ has quit ("bye") | Nov 04 06:33 | |
| *jono has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Nov 04 06:41 | |
| *amarsh04__ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-178-49.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 06:46 | |
| *zer0c00l has quit ("brb") | Nov 04 06:57 | |
| *amarsh04_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 07:02 | |
| *amarsh04 (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-110-136.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 07:23 | |
| *amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 07:37 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Yahoo Releases #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/f3ii http://ur1.ca/f3ij http://ur1.ca/f3ik | Nov 04 08:01 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yahoo! open sources uber web server • The Register .::. Size~: 28.04 KB | Nov 04 08:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yahoo Open Sources Traffic Server .::. Size~: 68.96 KB | Nov 04 08:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yahoo! Announces Open Source Distribution of Traffic Server .::. Size~: 22.56 KB | Nov 04 08:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Makes Market Gains, Glimpse at #Firefox 3.6 Beta http://ur1.ca/f3io http://ur1.ca/f3ip http://ur1.ca/f3iq | Nov 04 08:03 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Internet Explorer Losing Market Share in Europe | WebProNews .::. Size~: 32.65 KB | Nov 04 08:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: DE: Rate of government adoption of their software surprises Mozilla — .::. Size~: 28.44 KB | Nov 04 08:03 |
| *Ender2070 has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Nov 04 08:05 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New IE Patch Patches the last #Patch http://bit.ly/3kwLn4 | Nov 04 08:11 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: An update is available for Internet Explorer that resolves issues that occur after you apply security update 974455 (MS09-054) .::. Size~: 138.77 KB | Nov 04 08:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review / Introduction of the #GPL -licensed #RepRap Replicator http://ur1.ca/f3jb | Nov 04 08:15 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: RepRap, the replicating machine: The Free and Open Source Factory on the Desktop? .::. Size~: 44.65 KB | Nov 04 08:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Nations Assist Chinese #Censorship http://bit.ly/4ofyY4 | Nov 04 08:24 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | China looks to export censorship .::. Size~: 57.16 KB | Nov 04 08:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Copyright Greed Leads to Resentment, Reform http://ur1.ca/f3jq http://ur1.ca/f3jr http://ur1.ca/f3js | Nov 04 08:25 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: German Chancellor Proposes Special 'Save Newspapers' Copyright Law | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.92 KB | Nov 04 08:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.81 KB | Nov 04 08:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CBS Airs #MAFIAA #Propaganda, Contrary to Truth http://ur1.ca/f3ju http://ur1.ca/ezwg http://ur1.ca/f3jv | Nov 04 08:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 60 Minutes Puts Forth Laughable, Factually Incorrect MPAA Propaganda On Movie Piracy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 216.44 KB | Nov 04 08:27 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | Entertainment | The golden age of infinite music .::. Size~: 52.24 KB | Nov 04 08:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Paper Argues #Copyright Burden of Proof Should Pass Hands http://bit.ly/34xn18 | Nov 04 08:29 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: SSRN-Why Plaintiffs Should Have to Prove Irreparable Harm in Copyright Preliminary Injunction Cases by Pamela Samuelson, Krzysztof Bebenek .::. Size~: 33.5 KB | Nov 04 08:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bottled Water is a #Monopoly http://ur1.ca/f3k6 http://ur1.ca/f3k7 | Nov 04 08:36 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Pepsi Told To Pay Over A Billion Dollars For 'Stealing' The Idea For Bottled Water | Techdirt .::. Size~: 135.84 KB | Nov 04 08:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: And the monopoly goes to& | FactoryCity .::. Size~: 25.56 KB | Nov 04 08:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canada Shows That #Patents Do More Harm Than Good http://ur1.ca/f3k9 | Nov 04 08:37 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Intellectual Property Watch » Blog Archive » Canada Finds Patents No Help For Poorest In Need Of Medicine .::. Size~: 39.48 KB | Nov 04 08:37 |
| *axaxax (i=c362aa0c@gateway/web/freenode/x-720071ed3b4f51ed) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 08:47 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Skype "Free Software" Just Confusion, PR http://ur1.ca/f3kn http://ur1.ca/f3kp | Nov 04 08:48 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: No open-source Skype ... yet - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 135.82 KB | Nov 04 08:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Olivier FAURAX : Skype Open Source: questions and answers, perhaps .::. Size~: 27.43 KB | Nov 04 08:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sun Happy About Oracle's Obligation to #OpenOffice .org http://bit.ly/N50U4 | Nov 04 08:50 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Meall Dubh » Blog Archive » Oracle and OpenOffice.org .::. Size~: 13.33 KB | Nov 04 08:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #NASSCOM Still Helps Proprietary Uncle Sam Rather Than People of #India http://www.frontline.in/stories/20091120262309100.htm | Nov 04 08:52 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/genes/ | Nov 04 09:04 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Judge OKs Challenge to Human-Gene Patents | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 100.55 KB | Nov 04 09:04 |
| schestowitz | http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/towerticker/2009/11/tribune-co-papers-rewiring-for-experimental-week-without-ap.html | Nov 04 09:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Tower Ticker: Tribune Co. papers rewiring for experimental week without AP .::. Size~: 71.14 KB | Nov 04 09:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Here's a good reason to shut down Fox. http://ping.fm/8gs7K | Nov 04 09:13 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: White House Environmental Adviser Van Jones Resigns Citing "Vicious Smear Campaign Against Me" .::. Size~: 57.07 KB | Nov 04 09:13 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @schestowitz: #NASSCOM Still Helps Proprietary Uncle Sam Rather Than People of #India http://tinyurl.com/yhtmg4r | Nov 04 09:15 | |
| *zer0c00l (n=user@117.199.142.45) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 09:31 | |
| *zub (i=[U2FsdGV@linux.fjfi.cvut.cz) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 09:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Godwin 2.0 http://ping.fm/AvBaa @glynmoody coined it | Nov 04 09:59 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Godwin 2.0 | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 91.83 KB | Nov 04 09:59 |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:02 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:02 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:02 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:05 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:06 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:06 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:07 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:07 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:07 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:09 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:09 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:09 | |
| *magentar (n=magentar@ip-109-90-128-158.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:10 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:12 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:13 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:13 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:14 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:15 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:15 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:16 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:16 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:16 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:19 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:20 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:20 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:21 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:22 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:22 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:25 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:25 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:25 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:27 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:27 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:27 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:29 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:29 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:29 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:30 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:31 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:31 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:32 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:33 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:33 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:34 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:35 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:35 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:36 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:37 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:37 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:40 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:40 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:40 | |
| *MinceR has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 10:41 | |
| *MinceR (n=mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:42 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:44 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:44 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:44 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:47 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:48 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:48 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:51 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:52 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:52 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:53 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 10:54 | |
| *irc.freenode.net gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 10:54 | |
| *BNi has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 10:54 | |
| schestowitz | What the heck is this? http://webvw.info/software/2009/11/04/godwin-2-0-boycott-novell/ | Nov 04 11:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Godwin 2.0 | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 5.58 KB | Nov 04 11:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Orwellian #EIF , Fake #OpenSource , and #Security Implications http://ping.fm/2KE5p #skype | Nov 04 11:01 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Orwellian EIF, Fake Open Source, and Security Implications | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 102.99 KB | Nov 04 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Tailban has taken over for the old insult a natiz Ok I think I got that typed wrong. | Nov 04 11:02 |
| *zer0c00l is now known as zer0c00l|Away | Nov 04 11:04 | |
| *_Hicham_ (n=hicham@wana-145-245-12-196.wanamaroc.com) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 11:13 | |
| *axaxax has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 11:31 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what do you mean? | Nov 04 11:40 |
| *candyboy (i=77983425@gateway/web/freenode/x-fdb772735b99fe02) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 11:41 | |
| *wallc (i=62a521f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-2ed2e245de6d0b30) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 11:42 | |
| *candyboy has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 11:44 | |
| oiaohm | The worlds insults have moved on. schestowitz yet the reason why it used has not changed. Don't want to face a debate. | Nov 04 11:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bright #OpenOffice .org Future, #ODF News, and Antagonisers Spotted http://ping.fm/QpFZ1 | Nov 04 11:50 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bright OpenOffice.org Future, ODF News, and Antagonisers Spotted | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 99.34 KB | Nov 04 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Companies are shaped on modeled after opinions of their tyrants and it seems like Canada finally writes about pharmaceutical monopoly, and slams ut :-) | Nov 04 12:08 |
| schestowitz | Turkey claims Google owes it cash http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1560829/turkey-claims-google-owes-cash | Nov 04 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Haha. oiaohm: Device that 'smells' human fear could identify terrorists http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6481635/Device-that-smells-human-fear-could-identify-terrorists.html | Nov 04 12:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Device that 'smells' human fear could identify terrorists - Telegraph .::. Size~: 47.21 KB | Nov 04 12:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/11/detecting_terro.html "Seems like yet another technology that will be swamped with false positives." | Nov 04 12:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Schneier on Security: Detecting Terrorists by Smelling Fear .::. Size~: 62.13 KB | Nov 04 12:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/11/03/turkey-asks-google-for-47-million-in-taxes | Nov 04 12:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Turkey Asks Google For $47 Million In Taxes | WebProNews .::. Size~: 33.07 KB | Nov 04 12:20 |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | No economic recovery like GE et al (NBC) would love us to believe.. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/adaptec_q2_10_ceo_out/ | Nov 04 12:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Adaptec CEO on the ropes after dreadful results • The Register .::. Size~: 34.07 KB | Nov 04 12:22 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] False positive extravaganza. http://ping.fm/0suNj Sci-Fi fantasy implemented | Nov 04 12:25 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Facebook FUD is being spread because, well... it can carry TEXT !!111 http://ping.fm/BJEP5 | Nov 04 12:25 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Device that 'smells' human fear could identify terrorists - Telegraph .::. Size~: 47.21 KB | Nov 04 12:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Trojan pokes Facebook for zombie commands • The Register .::. Size~: 28.78 KB | Nov 04 12:25 |
| oiaohm | Id by fear is a mistake schestowitz | Nov 04 12:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I reckon terrorists are calm about what they do. They sometimes think it takes them to heaven | Nov 04 12:26 |
| oiaohm | People like me can pass lie detectors very well even brain scanning ones while lieing. | Nov 04 12:26 |
| schestowitz | it needs to be proven that people who fly planed into building are actually fearful and nervous. | Nov 04 12:27 |
| schestowitz | *planes | Nov 04 12:27 |
| schestowitz | *buildings | Nov 04 12:27 |
| oiaohm | Its only a matter of time until terrorists work out how. | Nov 04 12:27 |
| schestowitz | How do you know? Did you try polygraphs? | Nov 04 12:27 |
| schestowitz | I'd like to try one sometimes. | Nov 04 12:27 |
| oiaohm | I have beaten polygraphs. | Nov 04 12:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Sw6by7pig | Nov 04 12:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Jerry lie detector test .::. Size~: 114.94 KB | Nov 04 12:28 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: why were you put on one? | Nov 04 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Just because I had worked out a method to defeat them schestowitz | Nov 04 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Mental or workaround? | Nov 04 12:30 |
| oiaohm | I can defeat a brain scan schestowitz. | Nov 04 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Looking for activity showing a lie. | Nov 04 12:31 |
| schestowitz | Activity is not thought | Nov 04 12:31 |
| schestowitz | I guess it's an issue of measuring the wrong thing | Nov 04 12:31 |
| schestowitz | As in this case, being afraid is not the same as being evil | Nov 04 12:31 |
| schestowitz | They need to smell intent to harm, not fear | Nov 04 12:31 |
| oiaohm | Person can be trained to act without fear. | Nov 04 12:31 |
| oiaohm | It called mental compartentalistion. | Nov 04 12:32 |
| oiaohm | Effectivelly shutdown emotions. | Nov 04 12:32 |
| oiaohm | So looking for fear is something a person can be trained not to do. | Nov 04 12:33 |
| oiaohm | Shutdown down fear alown screws up all the early lie detectors. | Nov 04 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmmmmmm....... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/ | Nov 04 12:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bug in latest Linux gives untrusted users root access • The Register .::. Size~: 30.39 KB | Nov 04 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Did you see this? | Nov 04 12:34 |
| oiaohm | Yes I have schestowitz | Nov 04 12:35 |
| oiaohm | The applications are all win32 running in wine schestowitz | Nov 04 12:36 |
| schestowitz | wallc: isn't it like 5am there? | Nov 04 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Note only some win32 applications need it. | Nov 04 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Also dosemu as well schestowitz. | Nov 04 12:36 |
| oiaohm | Bigger question does windows have the same issue hidden in it. | Nov 04 12:37 |
| schestowitz | "What's more, many administrators are forced to disable the feature so their systems can run developer tools or desktop environments such as Wine." | Nov 04 12:37 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Nov 04 12:37 |
| schestowitz | wallc: Your work helped gain about 10k unique folks yesterday... it seems to have hit a nerve in Taiwan. | Nov 04 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Ah. | Nov 04 12:38 |
| schestowitz | Novell layoffs :-S | Nov 04 12:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonder if I offered money to Wine they'd fix the TF2 bug | Nov 04 12:42 |
| oiaohm | You can employ codeweavers to work on what ever on wine Diablo-D3 | Nov 04 12:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes money does talk in the Open Source world. | Nov 04 12:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just want tf2 to work ;_; | Nov 04 12:43 |
| *fewa_ (n=fewa__@unaffiliated/fewa) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 12:44 | |
| schestowitz | fewa: that last video from vimeo was quite good | Nov 04 12:46 |
| schestowitz | What OS does this run? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/11/04/asus_keyboard_update/ | Nov 04 12:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Hands on with Asus' redesigned Eee Keyboard • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 22.66 KB | Nov 04 12:47 |
| trmanco | schestowitz: how is the bot doing? | Nov 04 12:47 |
| trmanco | has it crashed? | Nov 04 12:47 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: seems like something funny happened | Nov 04 12:49 |
| schestowitz | With twitfolk | Nov 04 12:49 |
| schestowitz | phIRCe never crashed, except when there was netslipt | Nov 04 12:49 |
| schestowitz | *netsplit | Nov 04 12:49 |
| trmanco | yeah | Nov 04 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Code could retry connecting, I guess | Nov 04 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Just to make it fault-tolerant | Nov 04 12:51 |
| trmanco | yeah, I'll do that when I have some tome | Nov 04 12:51 |
| trmanco | time* | Nov 04 12:51 |
| oiaohm | http://gizmodo.com/5291312/asus-eee-keyboard-shown-running-intels-moblin-netbook-os << A penguin schestowitz | Nov 04 12:55 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Asus Eee Keyboard Shown Running Intel's Moblin Netbook OS - Eee keyboard - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 66.16 KB | Nov 04 12:55 |
| *fewa has quit ("ZNC by prozac - http://znc.sourceforge.net") | Nov 04 12:58 | |
| *fewa- has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 12:58 | |
| *_Hicham_ has quit ("Leaving") | Nov 04 12:58 | |
| *fewa (n=fewa@unaffiliated/fewa) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 12:59 | |
| *fewa has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 12:59 | |
| *fewa (n=fewa@unaffiliated/fewa) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 13:00 | |
| *fewa has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 13:00 | |
| *fewa (n=fewa@unaffiliated/fewa) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 13:01 | |
| *fewa_ has quit () | Nov 04 13:02 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Canada ’s National Bureau of #Economic Research: #Patents Harm Poor People (and Help Rich People) http://ping.fm/vHwHM | Nov 04 13:02 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Canada’s National Bureau of Economic Research: Patents Harm Poor People (and Help Rich People) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 94.73 KB | Nov 04 13:02 |
| fewa | schestowitz, nice study | Nov 04 13:03 |
| fewa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzhD7KVs-R4#t=16m00s | Nov 04 13:04 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Authors@Google: Joseph Stiglitz .::. Size~: 127.73 KB | Nov 04 13:04 |
| schestowitz | fewa: :-) I put it in simple terms | Nov 04 13:08 |
| fewa | thats the stuff that can really topple the king | Nov 04 13:08 |
| fewa | injecting a little realism into the heart of the spin | Nov 04 13:09 |
| fewa | ELECTION RESULTS! | Nov 04 13:09 |
| fewa | the results look _really_ good so far | Nov 04 13:10 |
| fewa | Tthe evil ABOR looks dead in Maine and Washington | Nov 04 13:11 |
| fewa | *the evil TABOR | Nov 04 13:11 |
| fewa | http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/2009_ballot_measure_election_results | Nov 04 13:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 2009 ballot measure election results - Ballotpedia .::. Size~: 71.22 KB | Nov 04 13:11 |
| fewa | *certainly dead in Maine 60-40 | Nov 04 13:12 |
| schestowitz | fewa: that's a brilliant video | Nov 04 13:13 |
| schestowitz | Let me make a post about it | Nov 04 13:13 |
| fewa | texas authorized a additional higher education fund http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Texas_Proposition_4_%282009%29 | Nov 04 13:13 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Texas Proposition 4 (2009) - Ballotpedia .::. Size~: 65.15 KB | Nov 04 13:13 |
| fewa | militias! http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Texas_Proposition_7_%282009%29 | Nov 04 13:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Texas Proposition 7 (2009) - Ballotpedia .::. Size~: 50.4 KB | Nov 04 13:14 |
| fewa | great stuff http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Texas_Proposition_11_%282009%29 | Nov 04 13:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Texas Proposition 11 (2009) - Ballotpedia .::. Size~: 59.78 KB | Nov 04 13:15 |
| fewa | emminent domain limitations | Nov 04 13:15 |
| fewa | look how the cost of the war is now being sattled on states http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Ohio_Issue_1,_Bonds_for_Veterans_%282009%29 | Nov 04 13:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ohio Issue 1, Bonds for Veterans (2009) - Ballotpedia .::. Size~: 58.31 KB | Nov 04 13:15 |
| schestowitz | fewa: see minute 23 in that video | Nov 04 13:15 |
| schestowitz | Bingo | Nov 04 13:16 |
| schestowitz | On people using his text... | Nov 04 13:16 |
| schestowitz | The publisher went ballistic | Nov 04 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Publishers treat text like meat | Nov 04 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Writers as ideas they want to spread | Nov 04 13:16 |
| schestowitz | Same with singers and moguels | Nov 04 13:16 |
| schestowitz | &moguls | Nov 04 13:16 |
| fewa | the way you quote is fair | Nov 04 13:16 |
| fewa | of course I have no idea of UK CC laws | Nov 04 13:16 |
| fewa | instant run-off! http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/2009_ballot_measure_election_results#Minnesota | Nov 04 13:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 2009 ballot measure election results - Ballotpedia .::. Size~: 71.22 KB | Nov 04 13:17 |
| fewa | these results are great | Nov 04 13:17 |
| fewa | all the progressive things are passing | Nov 04 13:17 |
| oiaohm | http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1373285,00.html All the singles of tide turning. | Nov 04 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Hmm what key did I just tap to set away. | Nov 04 13:18 |
| fewa | and all the neoliberal/neo-con stuff is failing | Nov 04 13:18 |
| oiaohm | http://www.itworld.com/comments/83406 Someone needs to add a bot filter. | Nov 04 13:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Patch and Patch Again - comments | ITworld .::. Size~: 87.22 KB | Nov 04 13:20 |
| fewa | this country really needs direct democracy at the federal level | Nov 04 13:23 |
| *oiaohm has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Nov 04 13:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #JosephStiglitz on Why #TRIPS ( #Patents ) is Like Murder http://ping.fm/NC2ZJ | Nov 04 13:40 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Joseph Stiglitz on Why TRIPS (Patents) is Like Murder | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 94.04 KB | Nov 04 13:40 |
| fewa | note he is a nobel laureate | Nov 04 13:46 |
| fewa | for what I consider highly important research | Nov 04 13:46 |
| fewa | on information assymtry, breaking the myth of free markets | Nov 04 13:47 |
| fewa | *unregulated free markets | Nov 04 13:47 |
| schestowitz | What do these show? http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewsecfiling/articleid/3599903 | Nov 04 14:14 |
| schestowitz | http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewsecfiling/articleid/3599907 | Nov 04 14:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Swinomish Tribe Chairman calls for Obama to recognize climate change and reasonably fund Indian Health Service @CSPANWJ http://ur1.ca/f44z | Nov 04 14:14 | |
| schestowitz | I didn't look closely | Nov 04 14:14 |
| schestowitz | I can't interpret this so easily, with confidence | Nov 04 14:14 |
| schestowitz | fewa: take a look. See what you make of it | Nov 04 14:14 |
| *wallc has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 14:17 | |
| fewa | its all common stock | Nov 04 14:18 |
| *Python1320 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | Nov 04 14:19 | |
| *Python132O (i=Python13@unaffiliated/python1320) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 14:19 | |
| fewa | schestowitz, look up the stock price on those days | Nov 04 14:21 |
| fewa | and figure out what the option value was | Nov 04 14:21 |
| fewa | like see how a bunch of those were "free" | Nov 04 14:21 |
| fewa | its its basically a bonus | Nov 04 14:22 |
| schestowitz | OK | Nov 04 14:31 |
| schestowitz | So if I get this right, they are given more shares.holdings? | Nov 04 14:31 |
| fewa | http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewsecfiling/articleid/3599903 312*$4=$1200 | Nov 04 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Two board members? | Nov 04 14:31 |
| fewa | http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewsecfiling/articleid/3599907 764*$4=$2,800 | Nov 04 14:31 |
| fewa | its common stock | Nov 04 14:31 |
| fewa | so it doesn't have extra-proportional voting power | Nov 04 14:32 |
| schestowitz | http://people.forbes.com/profile/claudine-b-malone/58814 | Nov 04 14:32 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Claudine B. Malone Profile - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 39.73 KB | Nov 04 14:32 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_stock | Nov 04 14:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Common stock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 22.68 KB | Nov 04 14:33 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_stock | Nov 04 14:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Preferred stock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 72.95 KB | Nov 04 14:33 |
| fewa | I think the distinction should be abolished | Nov 04 14:33 |
| fewa | well, its not much money | Nov 04 14:40 |
| *amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-110-136.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 14:41 | |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I figured... | Nov 04 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Just doing a post about the issues Novell is having. | Nov 04 14:43 |
| *sebsebseb (n=sebastia@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 14:57 | |
| sebsebseb | hi | Nov 04 14:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] The Republican Joe Libermann pushes national ID card, pretends that people and states want it CSPAN3 http://www.realnightmare.org/ | Nov 04 15:04 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Real Nightmare .::. Size~: 10.98 KB | Nov 04 15:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Problems at #Novell : Media Backlash, #Layoffs , Pension Takeaways http://ping.fm/i3hOK | Nov 04 15:07 | |
| schestowitz | Ewwwwwww...... http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iloveyouroy | Nov 04 15:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New Problems at Novell: Media Backlash, Layoffs, Pension Takeaways | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 97.54 KB | Nov 04 15:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Ewwwwwww...... http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23iloveyouroy | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | re: "the real reason for TRIPS" | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Could you get your friend to do a translation. This is dynamite !!! | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzhD7KVs-R4&feature=player_embedded | Nov 04 15:09 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Authors@Google: Joseph Stiglitz .::. Size~: 128.17 KB | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | "One of the main purpose [of TRIPS] was to make access to .. generic | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | drugs less available" | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Can anyone do this? | Nov 04 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Get portions of the words from the talk into text? | Nov 04 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise people will be too lazy to check and Google hasn't access to it, let alone other facilities that can quote Joseph's words | Nov 04 15:10 |
| *jono (n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 15:16 | |
| schestowitz | The Iphone gets jailbroken again < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1560894/the-iphone-jailbroken > Why doesn't Apple just give up? | Nov 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Oh, look. Microsoft ads in the Beeb. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8342016.stm | Nov 04 15:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 80.27 KB | Nov 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Someone mailed me this an hour ago: | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Knoppix breaks BBC guidelines... | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Dear BBC community member, | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Thank you for contributing to a BBC community site. Unfortunately | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | we've had to edit your Posting below because it contravened one of our | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | House Rules. | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Postings to BBC messageboards may be removed if they: | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | * Contain links to other websites which break our Editorial Guidelines | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | The URL(s) which failed were: | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.knoppix.org/ | Nov 04 15:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KNOPPIX Linux Live CD .::. Size~: 0.22 KB | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/ | Nov 04 15:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Format | The #1 source for Linux .::. Size~: 37.38 KB | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe ubuntu Web sites are also banned by the bbc | Nov 04 15:19 |
| schestowitz | ;-) | Nov 04 15:19 |
| *amarsh04_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | Nov 04 15:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/04/google_wallace/ | Nov 04 15:23 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Wallace and Gromit get the Google doodle treatment • The Register .::. Size~: 24.85 KB | Nov 04 15:23 |
| *amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-66-170.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 15:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/04/naked_win7_security/ | Nov 04 15:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Naked Win 7 still vulnerable to most viruses • The Register .::. Size~: 30.23 KB | Nov 04 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Shocka!!!! | Nov 04 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Who woulda' thunk! | Nov 04 15:26 |
| *amarsh04__ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-66-170.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 15:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/04/t_mobile_outage/ | Nov 04 15:27 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: T-Mobile back up after US outage • The Register .::. Size~: 26.74 KB | Nov 04 15:27 |
| *DaemonFC (i=Ryan@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 15:28 | |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 15:29 | |
| DaemonFC | the incompetence of our mayor leads to six layoffs with more to come, after he already authorized the city to buy two dump trucks and double the size of the library | Nov 04 15:31 |
| *amarsh04 (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-117-183.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 15:31 | |
| DaemonFC | and rehired a police detective that was looking at porn and masturbating at work | Nov 04 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | he keeps his buddies employed no matter what they do | Nov 04 15:32 |
| *amarsh04_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 15:32 | |
| DaemonFC | funny how Rethuglicans are supposedly the party of low taxes and small government, and an all Republican government for this town has been so addictedto tax hikes | Nov 04 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | last time they tried to raise taxes by assessing the value of everyone's property for twice what it was worth | Nov 04 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | "The mayor said he was able to address the predicted $975,000 shortfall in the spring by canceling the city’s recycling program, including 26 pay periods instead of 27 on the 2010 city government calendar, and arranging for the city landfill to accept trash from Allen County, he said." | Nov 04 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20091103/LOCAL/911039937/1002/LOCAL | Nov 04 15:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Huntington lays off six | The Journal Gazette, Fort Wayne, Ind. .::. Size~: 30.21 KB | Nov 04 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/dud-baby-dud-the-lesson-o_b_345049.html | Nov 04 15:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Chris Kelly: Dud, Baby, Dud: The Lesson of Doug Hoffman .::. Size~: 245.02 KB | Nov 04 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | Doug Hoffman lost his election last night. He was supported by a plurality of talk radio entertainers, and a majority of former half-term governors of Alaska, but it wasn't enough. An obscure quirk of constitutional law says you also need votes from voters." | Nov 04 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | rofl | Nov 04 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | that's a good one | Nov 04 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | "With their help, and a million dollars from the Club for Growth, Doug Hoffman lost a part of New York State that had voted Republican since the best way to get from Albany to Buffalo was by canal." | Nov 04 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like the NY-23 Congressional seat was going to turn the tide of power, the Republicans just wanted any victory they could get ahold of | Nov 04 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | something to point to, to say that all was not lost | Nov 04 15:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] AT&T shows its very evil side again: http://ping.fm/MTibb for background: http://ping.fm/vU3Rp | Nov 04 15:46 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: AT&T Sues Verizon Over 'There's A Map For That' Ad Campaign | Techdirt .::. Size~: 52.09 KB | Nov 04 15:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Gentle Introduction to AT&T, Patents Deform Lobbyist | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 115.9 KB | Nov 04 15:46 |
| *amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 15:46 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Novell laid off many moe | Nov 04 15:47 |
| schestowitz | *more | Nov 04 15:47 |
| schestowitz | But what is the relevance? | Nov 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | The big corruption happens not a city council | Nov 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymarkets.com/stocks/2009/11/02/goldman-sachs-hopes-to-receive-approval-this-week-for-1-billion-worth-of-tax-credits-from-fannie/ | Nov 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/77844.html | Nov 04 15:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Goldman Sachs Hopes To Receive Approval This Week For $1 Billion Worth Of Tax Credits From Fannie | Daily Markets .::. Size~: 66.61 KB | Nov 04 15:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Goldman left foreign investors holding the subprime bag | McClatchy .::. Size~: 64.27 KB | Nov 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.americanbankingnews.com/2009/11/02/jp-morgan-chase-nyse-jpm-citibank-nyse-c-goldman-sachs-nyse-gs-morgan-stanley-nyse-ms-ceos-meet-with-federal-reserve-over-pay-packages/ | Nov 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/11/02/goldman-sachs-pursues-another-1-billion-federal-tax-benefit/ | Nov 04 15:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: JP Morgan Chase (NYSE: JPM), Citibank (NYSE: C), Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS), Morgan Stanley (NYSE: MS) CEOs Meet with Federal Reserve Over Pay Packages - American Banking News .::. Size~: 46.85 KB | Nov 04 15:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Goldman Sachs Pursues Another $1 Billion Federal Tax Benefit -- Politics Daily .::. Size~: 128.93 KB | Nov 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/1109/Geithner_urges_banks_to_take_a_chance_again.html?showall | Nov 04 15:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Geithner urges banks to 'take a chance again' - POLITICO Live - POLITICO.com .::. Size~: 54.19 KB | Nov 04 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Republicans say they want low taxes and small government, then when they get low tax revenue and have to make the government smaller, all they can do is bitch | Nov 04 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | because they really did want to raise taxes every year and grow the government | Nov 04 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | it probably doesn't help that their policies are chasing jobs away and the fact that 1 out of 3 houses in this town sits empty cause of that is also causing a revenue shortfall | Nov 04 15:52 |
| schestowitz | http://abovethecrowd.com/2009/10/29/google-redefines-disruption-the-%E2%80%9Cless-than-free%E2%80%9D-business-model/ | Nov 04 15:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Google Redefines Disruption: The “Less Than Free†Business Model « abovethecrowd.com .::. Size~: 220.89 KB | Nov 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/business/media/02ratings.html?_r=2 | Nov 04 15:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.7 KB | Nov 04 15:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that whole "small government" thing is the stuff Paul talks about. It sounds vague... unless he means less tax, less laws, and less intervention like police | Nov 04 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Of course he doesn't | Nov 04 15:59 |
| schestowitz | UK is an excessively litigious society | Nov 04 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | he means letting corporations go rampant | Nov 04 15:59 |
| schestowitz | ALso can afford CCTV at every corner | Nov 04 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | let people fend for themselves | Nov 04 15:59 |
| schestowitz | The assumption that by compartmentalising you get more security, law, and order | Nov 04 15:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: he doesn't mean that | Nov 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | he means the opposite | Nov 04 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Incoming........ FOSS event in Italy. http://www.stol.it/Artikel/Wirtschaft/Am-13.-November-South-Tyrol-Free-Software-Conference-in-Bozen | Nov 04 16:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Am 13. November „South Tyrol Free Software Conference” in Bozen / Wirtschaft / Artikel / Home - stol.it Schlagzeilen aus Südtirol .::. Size~: 124.68 KB | Nov 04 16:01 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8339223.stm | Nov 04 16:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 80.64 KB | Nov 04 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Yuck. AIR. http://stephentrainor.com/tools | Nov 04 16:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: stephentrainor.com: tools .::. Size~: 44.94 KB | Nov 04 16:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1063_signs.jpg | Nov 04 16:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 04 16:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Buggy clockware (image): http://ping.fm/FhOQK | Nov 04 16:11 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @PNHP SF Chronicle: 12 #singlepayer activists arrested at Speaker Pelosi's office. http://bit.ly/1H6vx6 she promised! http://ur1.ca/8wq0 | Nov 04 16:12 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 12 protesters arrested in Pelosi's office .::. Size~: 70.64 KB | Nov 04 16:12 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Waxman to Weiner: Pelosi Will Allow Single-Payer Full House Vote! .::. Size~: 139.01 KB | Nov 04 16:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Mysterous-Mail-Will-Skype-Become-Open-Source | Nov 04 16:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/11/open-source-napster-resurrected/ | Nov 04 16:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Open Source Napster Resurrected After 8-Year Dormancy | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 72.24 KB | Nov 04 16:14 |
| schestowitz | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/11/the-web-may-have-won-but-gopher-tunnels-on.ars | Nov 04 16:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Web may have won, but Gopher tunnels on - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 49.35 KB | Nov 04 16:29 |
| *zer0c00l|Away is now known as zer0c00l | Nov 04 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | Hmmmm.. what's this forum? http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.358464/browse_thread/thread/eb98c0b59cf490a7 | Nov 04 16:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: isnt it clear? | Nov 04 16:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | its on google finance for microsoft | Nov 04 16:36 |
| schestowitz | But it seems like the Groups hierarchy | Nov 04 16:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | its provided by the groups software | Nov 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz | "Another report the bombings in Iraq may have been done with help from inside the government "security" forces, for political infighting." http://www.stallman.org/archives/2009-sep-dec.html#04%20November%202009%20%28Bombings%20in%20Iraq%29 | Nov 04 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Didn't they catch a British soldier dressing up as an Arab and shooting people in Basra? That stirred up speculations they civil wars are provoked as an excuse to stick around and steal oil from Iraqis | Nov 04 16:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: type msft into finance | Nov 04 16:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | then scroll down to "View all discussions" | Nov 04 16:39 |
| schestowitz | What are people's opinion on instigation of wars and infighting? Crazy assumptions? | Nov 04 16:40 |
| *gargoyle-grin (n=randerso@gentoo/contributor/gargoyle-grin) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 16:41 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2009/nov/02/scientology-expose-track-down-former-members | Nov 04 16:42 |
| schestowitz | Damn. It's raining bullets here today. So cloudy that it gets dark at 4 | Nov 04 16:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/02/woman-admits-terror-charges "Houria Chahed Chentouf, 41, a mother of six from Manchester, entered the guilty pleas at Manchester crown court to charges under the Terrorism Act 2000 of possessing an article which gave rise to suspicions that "the possession was for a purpose connected with the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism"." | Nov 04 16:43 |
| schestowitz | "The UK convicted a woman of the "crime" of being suspect." --RMS | Nov 04 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm using a pill splitter because my doctor's office forgot to reorder my 90 day supply of Crestor | Nov 04 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Is possession alone a crime for her? | Nov 04 16:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | A woman who accidentally dropped a computer memory stick containing "a mini-encyclopaedia of weapons-making" from beneath her burka while she was being interviewed at an airport admitted two terror charges today when she appeared in court. | Nov 04 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | soI'm going to have to take 5 mg instead of 10 mg or else pay about $200 for a refill out of pocket | Nov 04 16:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | a muslim with weapons plans. | Nov 04 16:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | yup, Im going to have to honestly say shes guilty | Nov 04 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Ok, fair enough | Nov 04 16:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | A search of the rented property unearthed a handwritten note in which she said she and her children would be "bombs for the sake of this religion". Another document contained information about the military use of electronics, the court heard. | Nov 04 16:45 |
| schestowitz | I haven't read it all. Did she admit to having intent? | Nov 04 16:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | _wow_ | Nov 04 16:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | I hope she gets raped in prison | Nov 04 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | the doctor was like "Yeah, sure whatever" and was blaming me for their screw up | Nov 04 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Eww... | Nov 04 16:45 |
| schestowitz | OK, so I ought to have read it fully | Nov 04 16:45 |
| schestowitz | RMS gives her the benefit of doubt | Nov 04 16:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you see the video about generics? | Nov 04 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | "We need income verification" Me: "I already gave you that!" Them: "Where is it?" Me: "Right under that post-it that says 'Need Income Verification'" | Nov 04 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Nov 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/04/trips-intellectual-monopolies/ | Nov 04 16:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Joseph Stiglitz on Why TRIPS (Patents) is Like Murder | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 94.04 KB | Nov 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Skip to minute 16 | Nov 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz | He talks about how they screw you too | Nov 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz | If you can, get the text from the speech for us | Nov 04 16:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: ping.fm that scientology url so I can retweet it | Nov 04 16:46 |
| schestowitz | Naaa.. I'm not shoving that cultist thing into those tubes | Nov 04 16:47 |
| fewa | I bet you could make a transcript | Nov 04 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The drug companies have Patient Assistance Programs, but they're almost impossible to qualify for usually | Nov 04 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | you have to be at the federal poverty level or sometimes 150% of it | Nov 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz | fewa: I don't think he has watched it | Nov 04 16:48 |
| schestowitz | I got mail about it | Nov 04 16:48 |
| schestowitz | Painful death of the American economic dream http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/nov/02/globalisation-financial-markets-reforms | Nov 04 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, What's funny is the names of those programs | Nov 04 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | "Lilly Cares" for Eli Lilly, "AZ&ME" for AstraZeneca | Nov 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Nov 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | "Cares..." | Nov 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | "Lilly Dares" | Nov 04 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | Lilly Cares about Lilly's Shares | Nov 04 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Nov 04 16:50 |
| schestowitz | AstraZeneca ME ME ME ME ! | Nov 04 16:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] One in five mammal species on extinction 'red list' < http://ping.fm/0ygM4 > | Nov 04 16:51 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I probably will go on generic statins when I can't get the Crestor for free anymore | Nov 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz | They are monopolising disease | Nov 04 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | depends on what Medicare program I end up in | Nov 04 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Disease = busine$$ | Nov 04 16:52 |
| schestowitz | "Flu is all MINE!! MINNNNNNNNE!" | Nov 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | some only charge you $4 for 30 day or $10 for 90 day | Nov 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | for the name brands | Nov 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Swine Flu vaccine I think is mostly a ruse to inflate drug company profits | Nov 04 16:52 |
| schestowitz | Derry Irvine reveals Blair row over lord chancellor abolition http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/01/derry-irvine-blair-lord-chancellor | Nov 04 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's not any worse than the normal seasonal flu, but people act like the end of the world has gotten here and "Dammit, where's my shot!?" | Nov 04 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Shoot the swine :-) | Nov 04 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | If we get children vaccinated, that would solve 99% of swine flu deaths | Nov 04 16:54 |
| schestowitz | "Afghanistan election challenger Abdullah Abdullah pulls out of runoff" http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/01/afghan-election-karzai-abdullah | Nov 04 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's really only killing children, and not much faster than seasonal flu does every year | Nov 04 16:54 |
| schestowitz | But they call it "swine" | Nov 04 16:54 |
| schestowitz | It scares the c* outta people | Nov 04 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, CDC estimates that millions already have had it and never knew | Nov 04 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | cause there were no symptoms | Nov 04 16:54 |
| schestowitz | They think their kids will start snorting | Nov 04 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | hardly sounds like an end of the world disease to me | Nov 04 16:55 |
| schestowitz | It's like calling Conficker varient Ultra Conficker++++ | Nov 04 16:55 |
| schestowitz | *variant | Nov 04 16:55 |
| schestowitz | "The Conficker of DEATH" | Nov 04 16:55 |
| schestowitz | The "DIE DIE DIE Conficker" | Nov 04 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | I think that antivirus companies release most viruses out there | Nov 04 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | makes you need their product more | Nov 04 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | back in the early 90s, virus making toolkits started cropping up | Nov 04 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | I always figured it was the antivirus companies making them | Nov 04 16:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe | Nov 04 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Variants | Nov 04 16:57 |
| schestowitz | But.... | Nov 04 16:58 |
| schestowitz | They have competitors | Nov 04 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can create viruses that only they know how to block | Nov 04 16:58 |
| *lordtoran (n=lordtora@dslb-088-078-092-186.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 16:58 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Coca Cola 'corrupts' The American Academy of Family Physicians http://ping.fm/X4FK6 many quit in disgust | Nov 04 16:58 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Julie's Health Club: Coke partners with doctors' group .::. Size~: 84.15 KB | Nov 04 16:58 |
| schestowitz | trenaught is mutex | Nov 04 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I asked the nurse practitioner who refills my medicines why the psychiatrist I originally saw put me on Abilify ($300 a bottle) and initially refused to take me off even when I had life threatening complications. | Nov 04 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | She said "Some drug company rep probably bought him dinner and peppered his office with "gifts" and samples." | Nov 04 17:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itproportal.com/oss/news/article/2009/11/3/ubuntucom-underwent-periodic-downtime-many-download-karmic-koala/ | Nov 04 17:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu.com Underwent Periodic Downtime As Many Download Karmic Koala - OpensourceProPortal.com .::. Size~: 44.11 KB | Nov 04 17:01 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on trenaught!*@* | Nov 04 17:01 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm on Lithium now, I told the doctor that I would leave and not come back unless he switched me to the Lithium | Nov 04 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | well, he didn't want to lose the $150 an hour he got for office visits I guess, so he switched me to the Lithium | Nov 04 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up leaving anyway when I lost my insurance | Nov 04 17:03 |
| *schestowitz has kicked trenaught from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Nov 04 17:03 | |
| DaemonFC | Lithium has done it's job (for me anyway), no side effects, $4 a month | Nov 04 17:03 |
| *schestowitz sets ban on *!79d*@gateway* | Nov 04 17:03 | |
| DaemonFC | So why don't doctors like to use it? They've been bribed. | Nov 04 17:03 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube kobain lithium | Nov 04 17:04 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - YouTube - Nirvana- Lithium | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsUUHNf0S5cA | Nov 04 17:04 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - FeelNumb.com » Kurt Cobain | http://www.feelnumb.com/%3Fcat%3D9 | Nov 04 17:04 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Download Kurt Cobain Clips | http://www.metacafe.com/tags/kurt_cobain/page-6/ | Nov 04 17:04 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - YouTube Blog: Today in History: Kurt Cobain Is Born, John Glenn ... | http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2009/02/today-in-history-kurt-cobain-is-born.html | Nov 04 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Nov 04 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Lithium worked wonders for me | Nov 04 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | I was a wreck | Nov 04 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | total wreck | Nov 04 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Yes, you posted photos. Nasty bruises. | Nov 04 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's been used as a mood stabilizer for at least 160 years | Nov 04 17:05 |
| schestowitz | So wrecked you started hitting the furniture :-p | Nov 04 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's only been a FDA-regulated drug since like the 1950s I think | Nov 04 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, seizures | Nov 04 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | muscles tensed up bedly enough to bruise themselves | Nov 04 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | I'm assuming that the bruises on the outer arms were from banging them against the walls in the shower | Nov 04 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | obviously I have no recollection of those events | Nov 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz | http://lifehacker.com/5396028/boot-os-x-xp-and-ubuntu-from-a-mac | Nov 04 17:06 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Boot OS X, XP, and Ubuntu from a Mac - Multi-boot - Lifehacker .::. Size~: 61.36 KB | Nov 04 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | that sounded like a politician, but I don't | Nov 04 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't :P | Nov 04 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Scary. | Nov 04 17:07 |
| schestowitz | I'm not making fun BTW. | Nov 04 17:07 |
| schestowitz | !google kramer seizures | Nov 04 17:07 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - TV ACRES: Medicine > Diseases & Ailments > Mary Hart Syndrome ... | http://www.tvacres.com/diseases_ailments_mary.htm | Nov 04 17:07 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - "Seinfeld" The Good Samaritan (1992) | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697704/ | Nov 04 17:07 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Seinfeld - The Good Samaritan | http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheGoodSamaritan.html | Nov 04 17:07 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Clinical characteristics, seizure spread patterns and prognosis of ... | http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1059131198800721 | Nov 04 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's partially why I went on the blood pressure and cholesterol medication | Nov 04 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH3yRojpU8M | Nov 04 17:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - 2 of Kramer's best scenes in Seinfeld .::. Size~: 119.59 KB | Nov 04 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | high blood pressure has been known to cause seizures | Nov 04 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | high cholesterol is bad, but obviously would raise blood pressure as it builds up on your arteries | Nov 04 17:09 |
| *jose_X (n=jose@adsl-233-2-144.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 17:09 | |
| lordtoran | this reads like fearmongering to me: | Nov 04 17:11 |
| lordtoran | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/ | Nov 04 17:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bug in latest Linux gives untrusted users root access • The Register .::. Size~: 30.19 KB | Nov 04 17:11 |
| lordtoran | only far into the article they state only RHEL is affected (and already patched) | Nov 04 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | lordtoran, I would assume that Red Hat backported the patch | Nov 04 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | so what's the worry? | Nov 04 17:12 |
| lordtoran | how el reg words the article, otherwise i'm not worried ;-) | Nov 04 17:13 |
| schestowitz | lordtoran: it is | Nov 04 17:14 |
| schestowitz | We discussed it earlier | Nov 04 17:14 |
| schestowitz | wine | Nov 04 17:14 |
| lordtoran | a "desktop environment" | Nov 04 17:14 |
| lordtoran | yeah | Nov 04 17:14 |
| schestowitz | Gavin from The Reg (he's a Microsoft booster) seeded slurs of Ubuntu 9.10 | Nov 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz | I see other sites linking to him now claiming "many bugs" | Nov 04 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Comments: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/linux_kernel_vulnerability/comments/ | Nov 04 17:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Comments on “Bug in latest Linux gives untrusted users root access” • The Register .::. Size~: 68.94 KB | Nov 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz | "Wine is not a desktop environment, as many other commentards are likely to have pointed out before me." | Nov 04 17:16 |
| lordtoran | i see these "many bugs" people also post in the comments there | Nov 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz | "So this is why I never could make Wine work on my Fedora. Linux desktop for the masses my foot. Gimme less security, not more." | Nov 04 17:16 |
| schestowitz | I take the Reg with a pinch of salt So this is why I never could make Wine work on my Fedora. Linux desktop for the masses my foot. Gimme less security, not more. | Nov 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Oops. | Nov 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/03/register-sells-out-msft-novl/ | Nov 04 17:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Readers Contribution: The Register Sells Out to Microsoft and Novell | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 111.33 KB | Nov 04 17:17 |
| schestowitz | "Bit of an alarmist headline - All my boxen are fine. " | Nov 04 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Dan Goodin, the writer, is actually not a bad guy | Nov 04 17:18 |
| schestowitz | He's not a Microsoft booster | Nov 04 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Maybe misinformed here, I don't know | Nov 04 17:18 |
| schestowitz | He's one of their good writers | Nov 04 17:18 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/15035/5_reasons_why_ubuntu_9_10_is_better_than_windows_7 | Nov 04 17:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 5 Reasons why Ubuntu 9.10 is better than Windows 7 - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 143.33 KB | Nov 04 17:19 |
| lordtoran | heise.de says debian is affected too, but not ubuntu | Nov 04 17:19 |
| lordtoran | my sidux (debian sid based) is not affected either | Nov 04 17:20 |
| lordtoran | hmm | Nov 04 17:20 |
| lordtoran | heise also says setting that value to 0 may be required for wine and dosemu | Nov 04 17:20 |
| lordtoran | the reg also spoke of "developer tools" | Nov 04 17:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailytech.com/White+House+Embraces+Open+Source+Utilizes+Drupal/article16685c.htm | Nov 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz | IOW, trying to emulate One Microsoft Way is not a safe route to running executables | Nov 04 17:22 |
| schestowitz | Reg should tell us something we didn't know :-) :-) | Nov 04 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Like wine's ability to run malware | Nov 04 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Damn paywalls...... http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091102-707450.html | Nov 04 17:24 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: British Airways' Cabin Crew Ballot Not Yet Open - Source - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 104.13 KB | Nov 04 17:24 |
| lordtoran | yes, malware could of course run (with user rights) | Nov 04 17:24 |
| *zer0c00l is now known as zer0c00l|dnd | Nov 04 17:24 | |
| lordtoran | but who wants to do that? | Nov 04 17:24 |
| lordtoran | nostalgics? | Nov 04 17:25 |
| *merriam_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 17:28 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article5085878/Ich-stand-auf-und-gab-mir-selbst-das-Kommando.html | Nov 04 17:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Geständnis im Marwa-Prozess: "Ich stand auf und gab mir selbst das Kommando" - Nachrichten Vermischtes - WELT ONLINE .::. Size~: 146.89 KB | Nov 04 17:33 |
| schestowitz | lordtoran: legacy | Nov 04 17:33 |
| lordtoran | that's about the german-russian who killed an egypt woman | Nov 04 17:35 |
| schestowitz | lordtoran: I guess nostalgia is more recreational and legacy is due to need, like old apps that have no suitable replacement | Nov 04 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Some airlines and travel agents still worked in CLI/query mode when I last visited any... | Nov 04 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Now it's done online with forms | Nov 04 17:36 |
| schestowitz | But the fact remains that it suited them better than GI | Nov 04 17:36 |
| schestowitz | *GUI | Nov 04 17:36 |
| schestowitz | ANd I can imagine many can move to RHEL desktops | Nov 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz | And run their apps more safely affordable on that | Nov 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz | !google rhel russia mail | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Backup Exec 12.5 for Windows Servers revision 2213 Service Pack 2 ... | http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/324919.htm | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Forum GLPI-Project / Problem with Receivers | http://www.glpi-project.org/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D92915 | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - mail server - Linux Servers and Apache | http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread212989.html | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Re: Gran Pradiso site looks hacked - rhel...@gmail.com - org ... | http://markmail.org/message/3exlqmcptvjb4dfk | Nov 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz | !google rhel russia post office | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - php 5 instaltion error on RHEL 4.0 : rhel, 5, cannot | http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Q_22758087.html | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - CentOS -- A great way to Linux! - Upcoming News Stories News Story | http://www.daniweb.com/news/post971130.html | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Computer Tips & Tricks | http://praveenkumarg.blogspot.com/ | Nov 04 17:37 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Problem of installing IC5141 on RHEL5 | http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic352707.html | Nov 04 17:37 |
| schestowitz | well, never mind. | Nov 04 17:37 |
| lordtoran | fix for debian | Nov 04 17:38 |
| lordtoran | http://wiki.debian.org/mmap_min_addr | Nov 04 17:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: mmap_min_addr - Debian Wiki .::. Size~: 14.03 KB | Nov 04 17:38 |
| lordtoran | in case someone needs it | Nov 04 17:38 |
| lordtoran | i usually book online when flying | Nov 04 17:39 |
| lordtoran | so i don't know much about the software they use :-( | Nov 04 17:39 |
| lordtoran | i know the hamburg subway uses linux for their arrival/departure displays | Nov 04 17:40 |
| lordtoran | never been in hamburg though | Nov 04 17:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC NEWS | Business | Intel in threats and bribery suit http://tinyurl.com/yzlokt3 | Nov 04 17:42 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | Business | Intel in threats and bribery suit .::. Size~: 45.76 KB | Nov 04 17:42 |
| *merriam_ (n=merriam@wmerriam.gotadsl.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 17:42 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Microsoft reveals new-look MSN - Yet another MS slog from the BBC http://tinyurl.com/yh3q7uw | Nov 04 17:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | Technology | Microsoft reveals new-look MSN .::. Size~: 45.13 KB | Nov 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | lordtoran: http://images.google.com/images?rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&hl=en&source=hp&q=train+bsod&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=&aqi= | Nov 04 17:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: train bsod - Google Images .::. Size~: 42.22 KB | Nov 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Many displays in the UK rail stations use WIndows | Nov 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | But UK is a Microsoft state | Nov 04 17:43 |
| lordtoran | the mass transport ticket dispensers in my city run an old version of windows, i think 98 because i saw one reboot | Nov 04 17:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Doesn't everyone who wants to buy Beatles music already own it already? It's not as if they're an active band. http://tinyurl.com/ylluagh | Nov 04 17:45 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | Entertainment | EMI sues Beatles download website .::. Size~: 47.76 KB | Nov 04 17:45 |
| lordtoran | if anything runs linux, i probably won't notice because it won't crash :-) | Nov 04 17:45 |
| lordtoran | POS terminals i see in supermarkets and shops seem to run something embedded with a text interface | Nov 04 17:46 |
| lordtoran | most of them are from siemens-nixdorf | Nov 04 17:47 |
| schestowitz | eZ lost its CEO.. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/11/prweb3149524.htm | Nov 04 17:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: World's Largest Open Source Content Management Software Company Names New CEO .::. Size~: 29.46 KB | Nov 04 17:50 |
| schestowitz | lordtoran: http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2009/May_2009/msg01591.html | Nov 04 17:51 |
| lordtoran | i think many nixdorf terminals might run linux | Nov 04 17:53 |
| lordtoran | http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-131330862.html | Nov 04 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Some much disinfo in the news..... http://www.v3.co.uk/v3/news/2252463/skype-goes-open-source | Nov 04 17:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPO judges are part of the patent family, expect a disaster when it comes to reinterpretation of software "as such" http://i5.be/Rm | Nov 04 17:57 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Enlarged Board Of Appeal at EPO: Can Impartiality of Member Be Challenged By Amicus Curiae Brief? - BLOG@IPJUR.COM .::. Size~: 43.44 KB | Nov 04 17:57 |
| schestowitz | Another FUD piece links to Microsoft booster Gavin... http://www.product-reviews.net/2009/11/03/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-are-you-experiencing-problems/ | Nov 04 17:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala): Are You Experiencing Problems? : Product Reviews Net .::. Size~: 37.64 KB | Nov 04 17:59 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if Microsoft coordinates a smear like this | Nov 04 17:59 |
| schestowitz | All the Microsoft trolls seem to be attacking 9.10 | Nov 04 17:59 |
| fewa | Works great for me..... | Nov 04 18:00 |
| fewa | except pulseaudio, which has never worked with my sound card | Nov 04 18:00 |
| fewa | the rolling releases hurts their smears | Nov 04 18:01 |
| fewa | reduces their effectiveness | Nov 04 18:01 |
| *Lns (n=lns@pdpc/supporter/professional/lns) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 18:01 | |
| schestowitz | Useless press release.... http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS128380+03-Nov-2009+BW20091103 | Nov 04 18:02 |
| lordtoran | half-year releases are not really "rolling release" ;-) | Nov 04 18:02 |
| schestowitz | Ones about who will speak where and attend which events.... | Nov 04 18:02 |
| fewa | well anyways, releasing often | Nov 04 18:02 |
| fewa | lordtoran, your right | Nov 04 18:02 |
| lordtoran | but anyway ubuntu rains on their parade | Nov 04 18:02 |
| fewa | but if they released every two years it would be easier to attack ubuntu releases | Nov 04 18:02 |
| schestowitz | You could... just choose LTS | Nov 04 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Upgrade every 2 years | Nov 04 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Windows takes 3-5 years to \update' | Nov 04 18:03 |
| fewa | but thats not what users see schestowitz | Nov 04 18:03 |
| fewa | desktops | Nov 04 18:04 |
| schestowitz | After the waiting you get an SP with gimmicks and bloat | Nov 04 18:04 |
| fewa | IE7 == "critical" release | Nov 04 18:05 |
| fewa | same for WGA | Nov 04 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Against Moore: http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/1103/p09s03-coop.html | Nov 04 18:05 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Michael Moore ignores capitalism's blessings | csmonitor.com .::. Size~: 83.87 KB | Nov 04 18:05 |
| fewa | a great -advantage! | Nov 04 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Good luck explaining all this to people | Nov 04 18:06 |
| schestowitz | people's natural reaction when their choices are criticised is to attack the messenger | Nov 04 18:06 |
| schestowitz | If they agree with the messenger it implies one's own bad choice, i.e. stupidity | Nov 04 18:07 |
| lordtoran | and they didn't even choose but think that | Nov 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | So they stick with sides blidnly | Nov 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | No matter the circumstance | Nov 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | To almost 90% of people it means Windows desktops "needs" to be defended | Nov 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | No regrets this way | Nov 04 18:07 |
| schestowitz | lordtoran: "Vista7 was my idea" | Nov 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz | "Windows, the OS of 'the people'" | Nov 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz | It's not the OEM that 'chose' it and bought it... it's 'them' | Nov 04 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Odd affair: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS129250+03-Nov-2009+PRN20091103 | Nov 04 18:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/11/open-source-napster-resurrected/ | Nov 04 18:11 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Open Source Napster Resurrected After 8-Year Dormancy | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 72.24 KB | Nov 04 18:11 |
| schestowitz | http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/Skype_going_Open_Source-nid-62550.html | Nov 04 18:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Skype going Open Source? - SiliconIndia .::. Size~: 56.31 KB | Nov 04 18:19 |
| *microdot (i=79d91ed1@gateway/web/freenode/x-3ed6fc778e349846) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 18:26 | |
| *schestowitz has kicked microdot from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Nov 04 18:28 | |
| schestowitz | mutx | Nov 04 18:28 |
| schestowitz | ban0evading | Nov 04 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The idea of suing the maintainers of a file sharing protocol is ridiculous | Nov 04 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I coudl easily trade music files on Windows Live Messenger, but does that mean that the RIAA will sue Microsoft? | Nov 04 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Of course | Nov 04 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I wonder when they'll get the bright idea to sue browser makers over implementing HTTP and FTP | Nov 04 18:30 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, look at GMG v Grokster | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Because it's more centralised IMHO | Nov 04 18:30 |
| fewa | that issue has already been settled | Nov 04 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | where does it end? | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Forget about Net | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | People can swap music with terabyte HDDs | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Or USB sticks | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Films too | Nov 04 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Sneakernets | Nov 04 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Nov 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz | So the idea of preventing copying is futile | Nov 04 18:31 |
| fewa | you cant sue to developer of a computer program which can be used for illegal purposes for contributory infringement, if it can be shown that the application is capable of substansial non-infringing uses | Nov 04 18:31 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, already settled | Nov 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz | They need to try new business models. As for me, I use the music that artists willingly give away | Nov 04 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The "Windows 7 Sins" site accidentally gives Windows a point | Nov 04 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's still your computer, and they can't stop you from using your software | Nov 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I got over 1000 tracks now that I listen to cause the singers wanted exposure and made them downloadable | Nov 04 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Signing your music over to the RIAA is the biggest mistake you could make as a singer/band | Nov 04 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | it means it's theirs for all eternity and they pay you a pittance up front | Nov 04 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | and you can't stop them from suing people even if you don't mind those people listening to a copy of your work | Nov 04 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | the RIAA is responsible for a lot of good bands getting burned out and giving up | Nov 04 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Whatever happened to that woman that was countersuing the RIAA under the RICO Act? | Nov 04 18:34 |
| *zer0c00l|dnd has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) | Nov 04 18:34 | |
| schestowitz | http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2009/10/100000000-downloads.html | Nov 04 18:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Lodahl's blog: 100,000,000 downloads .::. Size~: 124.46 KB | Nov 04 18:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, same with Nirvana | Nov 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Geffen/Universal | Nov 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | The same mafia that had Mandy give them out internetz | Nov 04 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I haven't been watching the RIAA as closely lately | Nov 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: never heard of the outcome | Nov 04 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | are they still filing fresh SLAPPs? | Nov 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Not as much | Nov 04 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | and is Media Defender still out there? | Nov 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Not many lawsuit cases... | Nov 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Since they said they would stop but didn't | Nov 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Here's a thought: | Nov 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Say file-sharing was made popular 10 years ago | Nov 04 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, So they slowed down, but did not stop? | Nov 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Napster was among the first | Nov 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Why do they only NOW do the 'graduated response' | Nov 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Which is euphemism for "we'll cut off your whole family" | Nov 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | What makes NOW different? | Nov 04 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't heard much about RIAA in months, MPAA still pops their head out and bitches about file trading now and then | Nov 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | They just try to pervert the law inn different ways | Nov 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Now ACTA is coming | Nov 04 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | MPAA even said that when you don't go to the movies, you're stealingfrom corn farmers cause less popcorn is sold | Nov 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091103/1308526784.shtml | Nov 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4510/125/ | Nov 04 18:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: More ACTA Details Leak: It's An Entertainment Industry Wishlist | Techdirt .::. Size~: 82.08 KB | Nov 04 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | now that's a stretch even with their crooked logic | Nov 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/leaked-acta-internet-provisions-three-strikes-and- | Nov 04 18:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Leaked ACTA Internet Provisions: Three Strikes and a Global DMCA | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 25.75 KB | Nov 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/03/secret-copyright-tre.html | Nov 04 18:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Secret copyright treaty leaks. It's bad. Very bad. - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 241.52 KB | Nov 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | What does it have to do with popcorn? | Nov 04 18:39 |
| fewa | They cannot stop the sharing economy, they can only send it underground. | Nov 04 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, If they manage to stop all file trading, it's still not going to get me to buy music or movies | Nov 04 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Mos corn is used for other things | Nov 04 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Like cereal | Nov 04 18:39 |
| fewa | --lessig | Nov 04 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, But not going to see their movies at the theater is stealing from corn farmers. | Nov 04 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Don't question it, just believe it. | Nov 04 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Nov 04 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Haha | Nov 04 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, They actually made that argument on 60 Minutes, I shit you not | Nov 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | It's also 'stealing' the job of the man who rips the ticket | Nov 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | (or woman) | Nov 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | CBS | Nov 04 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, 60 Minutes hasn't been a news program in years | Nov 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | The same scum that own anti-FOSS sites | Nov 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Silicon.com, ZDNET, CNET... | Nov 04 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's become more and more the mouthpiece for propaganda from every crooked organization out there | Nov 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: same with academic journals | Nov 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | !google journals merck corrupt | Nov 04 18:41 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - The Merck bailout vaccine | http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp%3FARTICLE_ID%3D54219 | Nov 04 18:41 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Alliance for Human Research Protection - Merck Paid Elsevier to ... | http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/585/109/ | Nov 04 18:41 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Progressive Librarians Guild Calls for Elsevier to End Corrupt ... | http://librarian.lishost.org/%3Fp%3D2415 | Nov 04 18:41 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Vaccine Files: Corrupt Journal Articles Help Determine Court Outcomes | http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/%3Fcat%3D15 | Nov 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's called 60 minutes cause it's "60 minutes up for rent" | Nov 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz | MAFIAA could pay by the minute or by the pound :-) | Nov 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz | In Elsevier maybe it's by the page :-) | Nov 04 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/11/04/0320254/Bug-In-Most-Linuxes-Can-Give-Untrusted-Users-Root | Nov 04 18:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Bug In Most Linuxes Can Give Untrusted Users Root .::. Size~: 146.67 KB | Nov 04 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Apparently OpenBSD had the same problem | Nov 04 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | Theo De Raadt blames it on Intel | Nov 04 18:43 |
| *stefanc (n=stefanc@188.25.245.163) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 18:47 | |
| *ender2070 (n=lalala@bas3-toronto63-1088756701.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 18:47 | |
| DaemonFC | Does anyone have any idea if the latest 64-bit Flash build can see your webcam when you try to broadcast on Ustream? | Nov 04 18:51 |
| *TheMill_ (i=79d91ed1@gateway/web/freenode/x-4e2ce1fb9d852a2c) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 18:54 | |
| *TheMill_ is now known as Guest18298 | Nov 04 18:55 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I should probably send a donation to Demonoid or get one of those sponsor accounts | Nov 04 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I jsut don't want to pay with some means that can be linked to me | Nov 04 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have o figure this one out | Nov 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.wsj.com/juggle/2009/11/02/late-bedtimes-and-cranky-kids-how-the-world-series-affects-my-juggle/ | Nov 04 18:56 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Late Bedtimes and Cranky Kids: How the World Series Affects My Juggle - The Juggle - WSJ .::. Size~: 77.01 KB | Nov 04 18:56 |
| *schestowitz has kicked Guest18298 from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Nov 04 18:57 | |
| schestowitz | mutex ban evading | Nov 04 18:57 |
| *jose_X has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 18:58 | |
| schestowitz | "Saw this book #Windows 7 Secrets in a bookshop. Maybe it's about misfeatures as described @ windows7sins.org :) !fsf http://ur1.ca/f264" http://identi.ca/notice/13680420 | Nov 04 18:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: http://file.status.net/identica/mdim-20091103T201004-4ercg38.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 7.94 KB | Nov 04 18:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Marko Dimjašević (mdim) 's status on Tuesday, 03-Nov-09 20:10:08 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.12 KB | Nov 04 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't even bother torrenting anything that's not lossless anyway | Nov 04 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | obviously you're going to have to take massive files to get an MP3 that sounds anywhere near decent | Nov 04 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | I can use Aotuv's Vorbis encoder and average 160 kbps, fit lots more on my portable | Nov 04 19:00 |
| ender2070 | Fedora 12 RC might hit today | Nov 04 19:00 |
| ender2070 | :D | Nov 04 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't call it twice as good as MP3, but it's close | Nov 04 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better if I could get Windows Media Player's bugs and kinks worked out | Nov 04 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | it'll play them with the codecs installed, but the progress bar doesn't work at all and it still can't read the tags | Nov 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | "The PR firm Edelman is handling a crisis management campaign" http://www.prwatch.org/node/8668 | Nov 04 19:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sugar-Coated Counterattack | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 22.39 KB | Nov 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Edelman should be jailed | Nov 04 19:03 |
| schestowitz | The whole lot | Nov 04 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Edelman does damage control for Walmart, and lots of it | Nov 04 19:04 |
| ender2070 | lossless is more than twice the quality of an mp3 | Nov 04 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | Edelman sets up fake fronts like "Working Families For Walmart" | Nov 04 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | an astroturfing blog site | Nov 04 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, I meant Vorbis, not lossless | Nov 04 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | if you're working with limited space, Vorbis makes a lot more sense | Nov 04 19:05 |
| ender2070 | I do flac to ogg all the time | Nov 04 19:05 |
| ender2070 | Q 6.5 ogg's | Nov 04 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | MP3 is a dinosaur, I can't explain why demand for it is so high | Nov 04 19:05 |
| ender2070 | it works with everything | Nov 04 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | it's alright, but a number of improved formats have been out for a while | Nov 04 19:06 |
| ender2070 | the guys who invented mp3 even tried to replace it and couldn't | Nov 04 19:06 |
| ender2070 | mp3pro failed miserably | Nov 04 19:06 |
| ender2070 | 64k files were the quality of the 128 ones | Nov 04 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, MPEG-4 AAC is spreading almost exclusively due to iTunes | Nov 04 19:06 |
| ender2070 | 1/2 the size of an mp3 with the same quality | Nov 04 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, That was the pitch anyway, but it's not true | Nov 04 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | SBR+PS helps at those bitrates, but it's not equal to twice the bitrate | Nov 04 19:07 |
| ender2070 | yeah | Nov 04 19:07 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stefanoforenza.com/oh-well/ | Nov 04 19:07 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Oh, well .::. Size~: 22.01 KB | Nov 04 19:07 |
| ender2070 | I didn't use mp3pro long enough to disprove its hype | Nov 04 19:07 |
| ender2070 | lack of decoders did it | Nov 04 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | in the end, lower bitrate always means loss of quality | Nov 04 19:07 |
| ender2070 | no free software decoders either | Nov 04 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | MP3PRO was kind of a thing born out of the fact that MP3 players back then had like 128 megs of storage | Nov 04 19:08 |
| ender2070 | they figured they'd lock in it more so they wouldnt lose so much money like they did on mp3 | Nov 04 19:08 |
| schestowitz | That would be DaemonFC using his PC: http://www.stefanoforenza.com/geeks-are-not-easy-to-distract/ | Nov 04 19:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Geeks are not easy to distract .::. Size~: 21.86 KB | Nov 04 19:08 |
| ender2070 | im not worried too much about filesize anymore | Nov 04 19:09 |
| ender2070 | i'd rather use a format everyone can support without royalties | Nov 04 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Flash memory is the reason to worry about size | Nov 04 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | but even there you're talking about 4 days of music or 10 days | Nov 04 19:10 |
| ender2070 | my gp2x can take replacable sd cards | Nov 04 19:10 |
| ender2070 | most ppl got ipods now a days with no ogg support | Nov 04 19:10 |
| ender2070 | my iriver kicked ass back in the pre-1gb days | Nov 04 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Sansa supports Vorbis and FLAC | Nov 04 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | I had an iPod and hated it | Nov 04 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | luckily there's enough Mac fanboys out there to buy it up at way over what it's worth | Nov 04 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | I only lost $20 on that deal | Nov 04 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | that was the 5th generation video model | Nov 04 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | I had a 3rd generation model I coped with for a while with Rockbox | Nov 04 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 04 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | the ipod isn't real friendly to people that just want to load music they already have | Nov 04 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | and iTunes is shit and you have to use it to "properly" sync things | Nov 04 19:16 |
| schestowitz | BakBone's Linux-Based Data Protection Solution Eases VistaCare's Backup Pains http://www.datastorageconnection.com/article.mvc/BakBones-Linux-Based-Data-Protection-0002 | Nov 04 19:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: BakBone’s Linux-Based Data Protection Solution Eases VistaCare’s .::. Size~: 17.73 KB | Nov 04 19:17 |
| schestowitz | Why does Google syndicate whitepaper trash? | Nov 04 19:17 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.techworld.com/a-world-without-walls/2009/11/karmic-koala-polish-fixes-eps-support-issues-in-inkscape/ | Nov 04 19:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Karmic Koala polish fixes EPS support issues in Inkscape - A World without Walls - Blogs - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - Techworld.com .::. Size~: 76.61 KB | Nov 04 19:17 |
| schestowitz | And what will Apple fans have to say about this: http://www.netbookchoice.com/2009/11/02/hackintosh-netbooks-rip-apple-rumoured-to-disable-intel-atom-support/ | Nov 04 19:18 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Hackintosh Netbooks RIP? Apple rumoured to disable Intel Atom support | Netbook Choice .::. Size~: 39.95 KB | Nov 04 19:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh i love this | Nov 04 19:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | come on twitterbot, hurry up | Nov 04 19:20 |
| schestowitz | Heh cute: http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/flashsticks-wooden-usb-drives-02-11-2009/ | Nov 04 19:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Flashsticks Wooden USB Drives | Geeky Gadgets .::. Size~: 25.8 KB | Nov 04 19:21 |
| schestowitz | Wed Nov 4 19:20:33 2009| *** Got 0 new tweets | Nov 04 19:22 |
| schestowitz | 5-minute poll cycle | Nov 04 19:22 |
| MinceR | does twitter require polling? | Nov 04 19:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post - The Money Shot | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/yje63tc | Nov 04 19:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Money Shot | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 20.08 KB | Nov 04 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, It would be a great thing if they stopped making frameworks for a while and made a few applications for the ones they already have | Nov 04 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's like some piece of crap like .Net or Java comes along to "revolutionize the world" and there's like 5 applications ever made for them, and 1 that you might care something about | Nov 04 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | so here's 500 megs of runtime for 1 application | Nov 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | and then everyone's talking about new frameworks ahead | Nov 04 19:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1iofeM_6k | Nov 04 19:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - My boyfriend is the PRESIDENT .::. Size~: 133.95 KB | Nov 04 19:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | behold | Nov 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | the applications to give a flying **** about to toolkits out there ratio is too high | Nov 04 19:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is what an lsd trip looks like | Nov 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Christian Finnegan: "Every time I hear techno music I feel like I'm in Abu Ghraib. 'Look man, I'll tell you where Osama is, jsut turn that shit off!'" | Nov 04 19:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: hah! | Nov 04 19:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | umpsh umpsh umpsh umpsh | Nov 04 19:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | actually, lets just daft punk this | Nov 04 19:34 |
| *PetoKraus has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 19:35 | |
| MinceR | daft punk'd? | Nov 04 19:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | o/~ TELEVISION RULES THE NAATTIOOON o/~ | Nov 04 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | "They should stop naming clubs after random nouns and adjectives and start naming them after what you get or do there." | Nov 04 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Anyone want to go to Hepatitis tonight? How about Date Rape?" | Nov 04 19:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | bwhahahaha | Nov 04 19:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | actually, date rape would be a good name for a club | Nov 04 19:35 |
| *PetoKraus (n=pk@fsf/member/petokraus) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 19:46 | |
| *amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-49-202.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 19:49 | |
| *amarsh04__ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-177-172.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 19:55 | |
| *Will_ (i=453b6936@gateway/web/freenode/x-f5afee3dc6b1ceb2) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 19:56 | |
| DaemonFC | http://blueindiana.net/diary/4312/rep-ed-delaney-viciously-attacked-in-murder-attempt | Nov 04 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | The far right Republicans resort to hitmen to try and murder Democrats | Nov 04 20:00 |
| *amarsh04 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8663 | Nov 04 20:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: House Panel Calls Out Energy Astroturfers for Corrupting Democratic Process | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 23.82 KB | Nov 04 20:08 |
| schestowitz | "Insley said ACCCE head Steve Miller, "You remind me of the guy who hired a hitman and said, 'Just take care of the problem. Don't tell me whether you're using a knife or a gun.'" Inslee and Committee Chair Ed Markey (D-MA) said that when highly-funded lobbying campaigns are willing to spread lies and falsify documents in order to stop a bill, it corrupts the entire" | Nov 04 20:08 |
| *amarsh04_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 20:10 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm wondering if this new districting plan the Republicans are proposing is really "neutral" or just a scheme to gerrymander the districts more in their favor | Nov 04 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've looked at the proposed maps, it does seem to mix together what are currently heavy Democratic and heavy Republican districts | Nov 04 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | but I'm sure I'm missing something | Nov 04 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to believe it would be fair | Nov 04 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to see Dan Burton get thrown out of office | Nov 04 20:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | dude | Nov 04 20:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | what happened to my twitter bot? | Nov 04 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/04/1934242/NY-AG-Files-Antitrust-Lawsuit-Against-Intel | Nov 04 20:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | N.Y. AG Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Intel .::. Size~: 69.19 KB | Nov 04 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140330/N.Y._attorney_general_files_antitrust_lawsuit_against_Intel | Nov 04 20:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: N.Y. attorney general files antitrust lawsuit against Intel .::. Size~: 134.74 KB | Nov 04 20:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know why Im pissed? | Nov 04 20:18 |
| *frodon_ (i=79d91ed1@gateway/web/freenode/x-a9aa200b6da56d13) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 20:18 | |
| Diablo-D3 | because I posted that like an hour ago | Nov 04 20:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | and the echo bot seems to be dead | Nov 04 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | The US does need to do something about Intel if those allegations are true | Nov 04 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | (I believe they probably are) | Nov 04 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | well | Nov 04 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | the problem here is | Nov 04 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt matter | Nov 04 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | intel is pretty much doomed | Nov 04 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | of course it matters | Nov 04 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | they sold, are selling, or are killing the profitable deparments | Nov 04 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather see us do a real antitrust case against Microsoft | Nov 04 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | they sold their ARM shit | Nov 04 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | there's currently three major x86 processor makers | Nov 04 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | there's only one maker of Windows | Nov 04 20:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | they want to offload their NIC and other small prephipherial shit | Nov 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.olpcnews.com/people/negroponte/negroponte_xo-175_goes_arm_xo-2_is_cancelled.html | Nov 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | OLPC goes ARM | Nov 04 20:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Negroponte: XO-1.75 goes ARM, XO-2 is canceled - OLPC News .::. Size~: 126.79 KB | Nov 04 20:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | they want to split graphics off | Nov 04 20:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: wtf happened to my twitter bot | Nov 04 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to see something done to Microsoft, I was in support of them being broken up like AT&T was | Nov 04 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | back in United States v. Microsoft | Nov 04 20:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: it doesnt make sense to break up microsoft | Nov 04 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | yeah it does | Nov 04 20:21 |
| *schestowitz gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 20:21 | |
| Diablo-D3 | no, not really | Nov 04 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, Yes, really, it does | Nov 04 20:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | you'd end up with the same 12 employees working at all the baby microsofts. | Nov 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | Wed Nov 4 19:25:33 2009| *** Tweet 13770243: [diablod3/@diablod3] #Intel hit with #antitrust suit in US http://ur1.ca/f4ue | Nov 04 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | means they can't subsidize everything else using Windows + Office profits | Nov 04 20:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Intel Hit With a Massive Antitrust Suit, In the US This Time - Intel antitrust - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 63.84 KB | Nov 04 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | giving the new product and unnatural advantage over competing software | Nov 04 20:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: except they don't have hard definitions of teams | Nov 04 20:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | that'd be like "oh hey, lets split up google" | Nov 04 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Weird. it doesn't post them | Nov 04 20:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: yeah, Im not seeing anything | Nov 04 20:22 |
| *schestowitz has kicked frodon_ from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Nov 04 20:22 | |
| schestowitz | mutex idiot nymshifting again | Nov 04 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the antitrust case in the US can sort of use the EU case as a precendent | Nov 04 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | and introduce the evidence their prosecution used | Nov 04 20:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: but the problem is | Nov 04 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | the legwork for this trial was already done for us by the EU | Nov 04 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | intel will be dead in 10 years | Nov 04 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | anything they do probably cant even hasten it | Nov 04 20:24 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @doctorow : Text of secret copyright treaty leaks. http://tinyurl.com/yhkkg73 It is really, really bad. #shadowgovernment | Nov 04 20:24 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Secret copyright treaty leaks. It's bad. Very bad. - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 337.54 KB | Nov 04 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | its already dying as fast as humanly possible | Nov 04 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, Intel is bleeding cash, yeah | Nov 04 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | so is AMD though | Nov 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: try now | Nov 04 20:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | intel is worse than bleeding cash | Nov 04 20:24 |
| *BNi has quit ("Caught SIGINT, bye.") | Nov 04 20:24 | |
| Diablo-D3 | its selling off all the profitable shit | Nov 04 20:24 |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 20:25 | |
| Diablo-D3 | like I said | Nov 04 20:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | they sold their ARM division | Nov 04 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140342/Microsoft_lays_off_another_800_workers | Nov 04 20:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft lays off another 800 workers .::. Size~: 128.83 KB | Nov 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Ah! | Nov 04 20:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | they want to sell their NIC and other similar stuff divisons | Nov 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | So I was right | Nov 04 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Nov 4th! | Nov 04 20:25 |
| trmanco | LOL | Nov 04 20:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | and they want to kill their GPU division | Nov 04 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | "The layoffs are part of the plan that Microsoft announced in January to let go of 5,000 people, although Wednesday's action adds to that original number. "In the ensuing 11 months from January until now, we realized we had to move a little beyond the 5,000, so that put us at about 5,800," said Lou Gellos, a spokesman for Microsoft." | Nov 04 20:25 |
| trmanco | for the Christmas campaign | Nov 04 20:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the only thing thats going to be left is northbridges and x86 cpus | Nov 04 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | so they're up to 5,800 firings in what was only supposed to be 5,000 | Nov 04 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | wonder if we'll see more to come | Nov 04 20:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | novell is dead | Nov 04 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | so? I doubt they'll be missed | Nov 04 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | they've been dead and walking for a while | Nov 04 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | it'll only hurt Linux development in the short term | Nov 04 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | the sales at Red Hat and others will go up, they'll hire more engineers | Nov 04 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | things will sort themselves out | Nov 04 20:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Nov 04 20:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'll make linux development better i nthe short term | Nov 04 20:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | it'll permadeath mono | Nov 04 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | how do you figure? | Nov 04 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | well, maybe | Nov 04 20:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | so people will quot talking about the fucking thing and just bang out java already | Nov 04 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | there could be interest elsewher ein maintaining Mono | Nov 04 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | doubt it | Nov 04 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | mono is so fucking slow, bloated, and featureless | Nov 04 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Java is slow and bloated | Nov 04 20:28 |
| trmanco | java is great | Nov 04 20:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | java is extremely fast and light | Nov 04 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle could put the last bullet into Java | Nov 04 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | justl ike MySQL | Nov 04 20:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | my typical java is as fast as my typical C | Nov 04 20:29 |
| trmanco | it can be even faster | Nov 04 20:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: oracle is the biggest first party java user in the world | Nov 04 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Tweet 13772944: [diablod3/@diablod3] This guy named the #Apple iMac http://ur1.ca/f50h | Nov 04 20:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Interview: The Man Who Named the iMac and Wrote Think Different | Cult of Mac .::. Size~: 38.86 KB | Nov 04 20:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: something is obviously wrong here | Nov 04 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Tweet 13773050: [diablod3/@diablod3] Duck Dodgers of the 24th and a Half Century http://ur1.ca/f50k | Nov 04 20:29 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dodge Viper logo is an upside-down Daffy Duck. - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 63.62 KB | Nov 04 20:29 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: yes | Nov 04 20:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: java is basically perfect | Nov 04 20:30 |
| schestowitz | I gets the messages, doesn't post them | Nov 04 20:30 |
| *schestowitz gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 20:30 | |
| schestowitz | Test again | Nov 04 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, Why would anyone care about the iLock-In? | Nov 04 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Nov 04 20:31 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Estou com frio nos pés :| | Nov 04 20:31 | |
| schestowitz | Still doesn't work | Nov 04 20:31 |
| schestowitz | Tweet 13775630: [diablod3/@diablod3] can anyone hear this in bn? | Nov 04 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Apple is big for a single PC maker, but if you want to divide between Apple PCs and normal PCs, they're still only about 5% | Nov 04 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | and I'd imagine that Windows is on a lot of those Apple PCs anyway | Nov 04 20:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: its interesting to read the story about the iMac name | Nov 04 20:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | basically, steve jobs rejected it and somehow we ended up using it | Nov 04 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, Apple really dropped the ball when it left PPC, it settled on x86 because Windows runs on them | Nov 04 20:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Nov 04 20:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | apple dropped the ball because x86 sucks | Nov 04 20:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | why do you think I bought a powermac long after they quit making them? | Nov 04 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | cause you wanted discontinued support from Apple? | Nov 04 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 04 20:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont even run OSX on it, dude | Nov 04 20:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wanted a ppc | Nov 04 20:34 |
| MinceR | others did ppc after crApple stopped | Nov 04 20:34 |
| MinceR | (dunno if they still do) | Nov 04 20:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yeah, but I needed a laptop too | Nov 04 20:35 |
| MinceR | ic | Nov 04 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft didn't go with x86 on XBOX 360 | Nov 04 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | I think that says a lot | Nov 04 20:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | neither did sony or nintendo | Nov 04 20:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | x86 isnt even a major player anywhere that matters | Nov 04 20:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | for 32 or 64bit processors, there are more ARMs sold than anything else | Nov 04 20:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | MIPS and PPC are the next two | Nov 04 20:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | x86 is like #4 or 5 | Nov 04 20:39 |
| ender2070 | apple just wanted to leverage cheaper hardware | Nov 04 20:40 |
| ender2070 | @ the prices they charge | Nov 04 20:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | Nov 04 20:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | they wanted to leverage more available hardware | Nov 04 20:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | they couldnt get ppc chips in the numbers they wanted because they wernt a big player | Nov 04 20:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | they simply wernt buying enough cpus to gain anyone's attention | Nov 04 20:41 |
| ender2070 | thats kind of what I meant | Nov 04 20:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | they didnt choose x86 because its cheaper | Nov 04 20:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | because its really not | Nov 04 20:43 |
| ender2070 | they wouldn't risk clones unless they stood to benefit from it | Nov 04 20:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | x86 is cheaper if you buy AMD | Nov 04 20:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | they dont. | Nov 04 20:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | intel is slow, overheating, overpriced shit. | Nov 04 20:43 |
| ender2070 | AMD is pathetic though | Nov 04 20:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wouldnt own anything but AMD | Nov 04 20:43 |
| ender2070 | AMD is slow, overheating underprices shit | Nov 04 20:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | AMD beats Intel at price per performance and price per watt | Nov 04 20:44 |
| *amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 20:44 | |
| Diablo-D3 | the only two things that matter | Nov 04 20:44 |
| ender2070 | my overclocked q6600 (@3.0Ghz) beat every phenom amd came out with for 2 years | Nov 04 20:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | good for you | Nov 04 20:44 |
| *_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 20:44 | |
| Diablo-D3 | no one really cares that you voided your warranty | Nov 04 20:44 |
| ender2070 | i dont care | Nov 04 20:44 |
| ender2070 | lol | Nov 04 20:44 |
| *amarsh04__ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-219-54.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 20:44 | |
| ender2070 | oh no, "voided my warranty" | Nov 04 20:44 |
| ender2070 | im a professional, not a dumbass | Nov 04 20:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | Uh-huh. | Nov 04 20:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | Anyhow, I | Nov 04 20:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | Anyhow, I'm going to bed, I'm too tired to deal with the crazies atm | Nov 04 20:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | night all | Nov 04 20:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: and get the bot fix kthx | Nov 04 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, The Q6600 is no match for even a middle of the road Phenom | Nov 04 20:46 |
| ender2070 | lol | Nov 04 20:46 |
| ender2070 | phenom 2 maybe | Nov 04 20:46 |
| ender2070 | it beats every phenom 1 | Nov 04 20:46 |
| ender2070 | I used to LOVE AMD, before phenom when they screwed over their loyal customers | Nov 04 20:47 |
| ender2070 | intel has better fabs, and it makes more stable chips that run at lower temps | Nov 04 20:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | ender2070: uh | Nov 04 20:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the phenom 1 is a lot slower than the phenom 2 | Nov 04 20:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | sadly, the 1 beats the i7 pretty badly | Nov 04 20:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | but thats not the point | Nov 04 20:48 |
| ender2070 | nah not at all | Nov 04 20:48 |
| ender2070 | you're totally wrong | Nov 04 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | The Phenom II has a couple advantages over the original | Nov 04 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | triple the L3 cache and no TLB bug to hinder it | Nov 04 20:49 |
| ender2070 | how many nm is it | Nov 04 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | mine is 45 nm | Nov 04 20:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | 45 | Nov 04 20:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | but that doesnt really mean anything | Nov 04 20:49 |
| ender2070 | how many years did it take amd to catch up to intel's 45 nm | Nov 04 20:49 |
| ender2070 | yes it means everything | Nov 04 20:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | AMD's design was efficient enough at 65nm to beat 45nm Core 2s | Nov 04 20:49 |
| ender2070 | if you don't think it does, i feel sorry for you | Nov 04 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, Not as long as it took Intel to euthanize the Pentium 4 | Nov 04 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 04 20:50 |
| ender2070 | the 45nm core 2s beat the i7's in the same stuff the phenom 2's do | Nov 04 20:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyhow, Im going to bed | Nov 04 20:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | night all | Nov 04 20:50 |
| ender2070 | hey, i dont disagree intel sucked before core 2 | Nov 04 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | The Pentium 4 was the worst processor to ever come out of Intel | Nov 04 20:50 |
| ender2070 | i dont disagree | Nov 04 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | and it took them years to stop lying and get rid of it | Nov 04 20:50 |
| ender2070 | i've used amd from k6-2 to X2 | Nov 04 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | I was not impressed with the Core 2 Duo I had | Nov 04 20:51 |
| ender2070 | the phenom was a disappointment, and no recall they issued bios updates | Nov 04 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | it was a bad deal, overall | Nov 04 20:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Boycott #Novell Was Right About #Microsoft #Layoffs http://ping.fm/J0GkN | Nov 04 20:51 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Quick Mention: Boycott Novell Was Right About Microsoft Layoffs | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 90.27 KB | Nov 04 20:51 |
| ender2070 | the phenom was late too | Nov 04 20:51 |
| ender2070 | their native quad core couldn't beat a q6600 that came out a year earlier | Nov 04 20:51 |
| *BNi has quit ("Caught SIGINT, bye.") | Nov 04 20:51 | |
| *BNc has quit ("Caught SIGINT, bye.") | Nov 04 20:51 | |
| *phIRCe-local has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | Nov 04 20:51 | |
| ender2070 | the thing is im not a zealot, and i support whoever is better currently | Nov 04 20:52 |
| *Diablo-D3 has quit ("do coders dream of sheep()?") | Nov 04 20:53 | |
| *BNc () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 20:53 | |
| *BNi () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 20:53 | |
| *phIRCe-local () has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 20:53 | |
| DaemonFC | there's also the fact that even though Intel's fastest processor right now is 30% faster than the fastest Phenom II X4, it also costs $1100 | Nov 04 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | where the Phenom II X4 is $200 | Nov 04 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | $1100 for the processor alone is just insane anyway | Nov 04 20:54 |
| ender2070 | it'll come down | Nov 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | so you get to pay 7 times more for a third again as much performance | Nov 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | something doesn't add up here | Nov 04 20:54 |
| ender2070 | its still _better_ | Nov 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | only technically | Nov 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's still a stupid buy | Nov 04 20:54 |
| ender2070 | over time the intel will get better | Nov 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's not worth having at over $300 | Nov 04 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | it costs $1,100 | Nov 04 20:55 |
| ender2070 | intel retail edge | Nov 04 20:55 |
| ender2070 | I got an i7 920 for $200 | Nov 04 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | meh, screw em | Nov 04 20:55 |
| ender2070 | w/ vista | Nov 04 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | then after you buy the $1,100 processor, they'll just release a new one 3-4 months later | Nov 04 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | and yours is obsolete | Nov 04 20:55 |
| ender2070 | vista ultimate 64 is $200 | Nov 04 20:55 |
| ender2070 | amd will do the same thing | Nov 04 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | AMD doesn't have processors that costs that much | Nov 04 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Gates picks a new puppet... http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2009/10/26/daily50.html | Nov 04 20:56 |
| ender2070 | AMD processors aren't worth it | Nov 04 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'd feel robbed if I had to pay $1,100 for something that doesn't perform noticably better | Nov 04 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Intel is a bunch of shysters | Nov 04 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Test phIRCe-local http://ping.fm/J0GkN | Nov 04 20:57 |
| ender2070 | everyone are shysters | Nov 04 20:57 |
| *schestowitz gives voice to phIRCe-local | Nov 04 20:57 | |
| ender2070 | intel puts more money into linux than amd, so I tend to side with them lately | Nov 04 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Test with voice on - phIRCe-local http://ping.fm/J0GkN | Nov 04 20:58 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Quick Mention: Boycott Novell Was Right About Microsoft Layoffs | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 90.27 KB | Nov 04 20:58 |
| *schestowitz gives voice to BNc | Nov 04 20:58 | |
| *schestowitz gives voice to BNi | Nov 04 20:58 | |
| DaemonFC | ender2070, It would be like if GM said "Our car has an engine that's 30% more powerful than the $20,000 Ford, but our car costs $140,000 and everything else about the two is comparable" | Nov 04 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | would you buy the $140,000 one or the $20,000 one? | Nov 04 20:58 |
| ender2070 | actually DaemonFC, i got a better example | Nov 04 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Intel is ripping people off | Nov 04 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | left and right | Nov 04 20:59 |
| schestowitz | fewa: enabling the voice-only thing seems to have had an effect even after it had been disabled | Nov 04 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | have to make up for that 1.5 billion dollar antitrust fine I guess | Nov 04 20:59 |
| ender2070 | your $20,000 Ford vs $2,000,000 Bugatti Veyron | Nov 04 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | if all their customers jsut pitch in an extra $1,000 per CPU, they can get back on track in a mere 10 years or so | Nov 04 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | I guess | Nov 04 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | or something | Nov 04 21:00 |
| ender2070 | some people will pay for the extra power | Nov 04 21:00 |
| ender2070 | if they have the money | Nov 04 21:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Strong signs for #GNU and #Linux this week... Novell/Microsoft lost their balance completely... | Nov 04 21:00 | |
| ender2070 | i would love nothing more than for AMD to get better | Nov 04 21:01 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_xvba_vaapi&num=1 | Nov 04 21:02 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: [Phoronix] AMD's UVD2-based XvBA Finally Does Something On Linux .::. Size~: 19.43 KB | Nov 04 21:02 |
| ender2070 | lol @ uvd2 | Nov 04 21:02 |
| ender2070 | "finally" | Nov 04 21:02 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Change Congress poll on Sebator Burr's vote against abilty to sue war contractors fallowing gang #rape http://ur1.ca/f56c | Nov 04 21:03 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Change Congress .::. Size~: 57.49 KB | Nov 04 21:03 |
| *Will_ has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 21:03 | |
| _goblin | hi all. | Nov 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | http://onensemble.org/2009/10/howto-track-your-practice-with-wordpress-and-gnuplot/ | Nov 04 21:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: On Ensemble : Masato Baba, Kristofer Bergstrom, Shoji Kameda and Kelvin Underwood » Blog Archive » Howto: Track your practice with Wordpress and gnuplot .::. Size~: 32.16 KB | Nov 04 21:14 |
| schestowitz | Eventing, _goblin | Nov 04 21:14 |
| _goblin | wd for your 800 job loss news! | Nov 04 21:15 |
| _goblin | Im mentioning it now. | Nov 04 21:15 |
| _goblin | you got in before the mainstream media! | Nov 04 21:15 |
| schestowitz | KDE site down? http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.3.php | Nov 04 21:15 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KDE - KDE 4.3.3 Release Announcement .::. Size~: 15.54 KB | Nov 04 21:15 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: indeed | Nov 04 21:15 |
| schestowitz | I was alone | Nov 04 21:15 |
| schestowitz | BUT>.. | Nov 04 21:16 |
| schestowitz | I got it from a comment from anonymous Microsoft employee | Nov 04 21:16 |
| schestowitz | nm, kde site back on | Nov 04 21:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Canalys-market-research-indicts-presentday-UIs/?kc=rss | Nov 04 21:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Most touchscreen phone users wouldn't buy again, survey claims - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.2 KB | Nov 04 21:22 |
| *homembit (i=bd36d832@gateway/web/freenode/x-f356d0ac0661c1cf) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 21:23 | |
| *ikonia has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 21:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-9.10-karmic-koala | Nov 04 21:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Perfect Desktop - Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials .::. Size~: 51.36 KB | Nov 04 21:25 |
| *ikonia (n=mattd@pdpc/supporter/bronze/ikonia) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 21:25 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin: are you still on kde? | Nov 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | There's a new version | Nov 04 21:26 |
| _goblin | yep | Nov 04 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Episode 125: Crop it! But how? < http://meetthegimp.org/episode-125-crop-it-but-how/ > | Nov 04 21:28 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Meet the GIMP » Blog Archive » Episode 125: Crop it! But how? .::. Size~: 33.55 KB | Nov 04 21:28 |
| schestowitz | http://journalxtra.com/2009/11/why-oh-why-are-so-many-linux-users-twats-to-newcomers/ | Nov 04 21:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Why, Oh Why, Are So Many Linux Users Twats to Newcomers? « JournalXtra .::. Size~: 105.97 KB | Nov 04 21:30 |
| *homembit has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 21:31 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Google ad keyword fail http://bit.ly/4nIEZ5 HT @picturecool | Nov 04 21:31 | |
| *amarsh04 (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-68-53.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 21:31 | |
| *amarsh04__ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) | Nov 04 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/519-truecrypt-make-your-data-safe | Nov 04 21:33 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard what if the page was about an ARRAY of strings? | Nov 04 21:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Linux share on netbooks is 32% http://is.gd/4NisK yes, MSFT lied, how surprising | Nov 04 21:39 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux's share of netbooks surging, not sagging, says analyst .::. Size~: 136.5 KB | Nov 04 21:39 |
| schestowitz | Meh. That 'open core' nonsense again: http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/11/openoffice_go_o.html;jsessionid=3TVUINCD4BQXXQE1GHPSKH4ATMY32JVN | Nov 04 21:39 |
| *ThistleWeb (n=gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 21:39 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OpenOffice: Go Open Core - Open Source Blog - InformationWeek .::. Size~: 80.37 KB | Nov 04 21:40 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.pear.php.net/2009/11/03/ubuntu-karmic-ships-with-pear-affecting-issues/ Hmmmmmmmmmmm] | Nov 04 21:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: PEAR Blog .::. Size~: 22.86 KB | Nov 04 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Lithium_carbonate.jpg | Nov 04 21:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 04 21:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft cuts another 800 jobs – Whats the “story” this time? http://tinyurl.com/yhaacp9 #microsoft #windows #windows7 #vista #xp | Nov 04 21:46 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft cuts another 800 jobs Whats the story this time? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 34.52 KB | Nov 04 21:46 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: man! You stole my ship meme... j/k | Nov 04 21:46 |
| _goblin | seriously? | Nov 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | For future installs: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_Tour | Nov 04 21:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: 2010.0 What's New - Mandriva Community Wiki .::. Size~: 66.17 KB | Nov 04 21:48 |
| _goblin | I'll change it now.... | Nov 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | KDE 4.3, VERY polished distro.. my favourite | Nov 04 21:48 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: no, I was joking | Nov 04 21:49 |
| _goblin | I thought I had seen it somewhere before.... | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | j/k-just kiddingh | Nov 04 21:49 |
| ender2070 | I like Fedora | Nov 04 21:49 |
| _goblin | I'll at least credit you! | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I put free photos of ships, usually sinking, as Microsoft declines | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | This is not the end of that | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 is just Vista | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | $300,000,000 in hype | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | And all they got was a couple of % market share | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | People don't buy new PCs | Nov 04 21:49 |
| schestowitz | ANd some get it with other OSes | Nov 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 offers no value to buy without a new PC | Nov 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: http://images.google.com/images?q=site%3Aboycottnovell.com%20ship&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&hl=en-GB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi | Nov 04 21:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: site:boycottnovell.com ship - Google Images .::. Size~: 46.13 KB | Nov 04 21:50 |
| schestowitz | http://images.google.com/images?imgtbs=s&hl=en&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&um=1&c2coff=1&sa=1&q=site%3Aboycottnovell.com+sinking&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0 | Nov 04 21:50 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: site:boycottnovell.com sinking - Google Images .::. Size~: 43.29 KB | Nov 04 21:51 |
| *voltronw (n=voltronw@ip65-46-255-182.z255-46-65.customer.algx.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 21:52 | |
| *krenso_ (n=krenso@91.146.240.107.ip.abpl.pl) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 22:12 | |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) | Nov 04 22:16 | |
| *krenso_ has quit (Client Quit) | Nov 04 22:16 | |
| *krenso_ (n=krenso@91.146.240.107.ip.abpl.pl) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 22:16 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Device that "smells" snake oil could identify terrorists http://notnews.today.com/?p=716 | Nov 04 22:24 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Device that smells snake oil could identify terrorists - News of the News .::. Size~: 34.56 KB | Nov 04 22:24 |
| _goblin | Anyone here got a GoogleWave invite spare I could send to an on-line twitter friend? | Nov 04 22:25 |
| *jmpnop has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Nov 04 22:27 | |
| *jmpnop (n=vacit@5ee5392d.ftth.concepts.nl) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 22:27 | |
| *Festers (i=79d91ed1@gateway/web/freenode/x-6db39a5df21179ca) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 22:34 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://bit.ly/2G4Iz1 Great analysis from Bryce Harrington about !ubuntu !karmic !upgrade issues involving !nvidia cards. | Nov 04 22:39 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Rendition trial ends with Milan CIA chief given eight years - Lets see if the US respect the verdict http://tinyurl.com/yev72hc | Nov 04 22:42 | |
| voltronw | _goblin: i have some | Nov 04 22:44 |
| cubezzz | http://www.umotivate.com/pics/32-poster3.jpg | Nov 04 22:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 04 22:46 |
| *schestowitz has kicked Festers from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Nov 04 22:46 | |
| schestowitz | Mutex nymshifting | Nov 04 22:46 |
| cubezzz | wow, who would have thought? :) | Nov 04 22:46 |
| cubezzz | that mutex is tricky | Nov 04 22:46 |
| cubezzz | http://www.umotivate.com/pics/42-poster17.jpg | Nov 04 22:49 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 04 22:49 |
| *treto (i=79d91ed1@gateway/web/freenode/x-6b5a657fcedcbc1e) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 22:50 | |
| cubezzz | hmmm, Novell down again | Nov 04 22:53 |
| cubezzz | almost 4% | Nov 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: works here | Nov 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Oh!! | Nov 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Nov 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I checked the server | Nov 04 22:54 |
| cubezzz | you may have to change the name :) | Nov 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | I though you meant BN | Nov 04 22:54 |
| schestowitz | *thought | Nov 04 22:54 |
| cubezzz | no, Novell stock is down | Nov 04 22:54 |
| cubezzz | 4% :) | Nov 04 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, but it was already close to $2 | Nov 04 22:55 |
| *schestowitz watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPopLEuSVRY&feature=related | Nov 04 22:55 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Joseph Stiglitz: comments on the financial crisis .::. Size~: 175.06 KB | Nov 04 22:55 |
| cubezzz | if Novell disappears then what? :) | Nov 04 22:55 |
| schestowitz | it won't | Nov 04 22:55 |
| schestowitz | It might get acquired | Nov 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Many think it will | Nov 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | One of the most likely to be bought this year, based on poll | Nov 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | MOST likely | Nov 04 22:56 |
| cubezzz | acquired by...? | Nov 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Sun was just behind and indeed acquired.. by Oracle | Nov 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: dunno | Nov 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Some speculations exist | Nov 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | April Fools: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/03/31/ibm-to-acquire-novell/ | Nov 04 22:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: IBM in Negotiations to Acquire Novell | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 119.1 KB | Nov 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/03/novell-lacks-humor/ | Nov 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | v | Nov 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/13/motley-fool-on-cisco-novell/ | Nov 04 22:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Hypocritical Novell Lacks a Sense of Humour | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 152.19 KB | Nov 04 22:57 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft-friendly Press Thinks Cisco Might Buy Novell | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 111.57 KB | Nov 04 22:57 |
| cubezzz | surely Microsoft would never be allowed to acquire Novell | Nov 04 22:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft can do anything | Nov 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Just bribe/influence the right people | Nov 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | See oracle | Nov 04 22:58 |
| cubezzz | 2.97 is the 52 week low | Nov 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | They always approve buyouts, eventually | Nov 04 22:58 |
| cubezzz | Quicken? | Nov 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Just a matter how how much legalised bribery (euphemism lobbying) and time is needed | Nov 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes concessions are made.. like spinning off mysql | Nov 04 22:58 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes | Nov 04 22:59 |
| cubezzz | or Inuit I should say | Nov 04 22:59 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/15/novell-wall-street-vs-private/ | Nov 04 22:59 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Novell (NOVL) at $3 Something; Should Leave Wall Street? | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 140.95 KB | Nov 04 22:59 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09/13/market-cap-falls/] | Nov 04 23:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Novells Market Cap Falls Below $2 Billion | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 102.39 KB | Nov 04 23:00 |
| schestowitz | I can't find the one about $2.98 | Nov 04 23:00 |
| schestowitz | But there's a post with a screenshot | Nov 04 23:00 |
| cubezzz | DOJ stopped Microsoft from acquiring Intuit in 1995 | Nov 04 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/novl-3-dollars.png | Nov 04 23:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 04 23:00 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/03/02/market-cap-stack-fall/ | Nov 04 23:01 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Novell Flirts with New Lows | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 167.77 KB | Nov 04 23:01 |
| cubezzz | in your pic at the top with Ballmer, who is the other person? | Nov 04 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Novell's CEO | Nov 04 23:02 |
| cubezzz | ah, of course | Nov 04 23:02 |
| schestowitz | How did Bush manage to double the national debt? | Nov 04 23:05 |
| schestowitz | 5.7->11-13 | Nov 04 23:05 |
| cubezzz | it would be interesting to make a list of the most Microsoft resistant companies | Nov 04 23:05 |
| schestowitz | Some say 55 | Nov 04 23:05 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: why? | Nov 04 23:05 |
| cubezzz | to see what sort of tactics work vs Microsoft | Nov 04 23:06 |
| ender2070 | some say bush did worse than that | Nov 04 23:06 |
| ender2070 | clinton had USA in a surpluss | Nov 04 23:06 |
| cubezzz | well, incredible spending on the military I guess | Nov 04 23:07 |
| cubezzz | pizza huts in Iraq? | Nov 04 23:07 |
| *ender2080 (n=lalala@bas3-toronto63-1088756701.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 23:08 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] More Microsoft "stories"? - The stats Microsoft doesn't mention. http://tinyurl.com/yfdenku #microsoft #windows7 #vista #xp #linux #netbook | Nov 04 23:09 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: More Microsoft stories? The stats Microsoft doesnt mention. « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 37.41 KB | Nov 04 23:09 |
| *gargoyle-grin has quit ("Leaving.") | Nov 04 23:10 | |
| *ThistleWeb has quit ("Ex-Chat") | Nov 04 23:10 | |
| cubezzz | I can see a future where Microsoft is about 1/3 of the market | Nov 04 23:12 |
| cubezzz | only question is how long it takes | Nov 04 23:12 |
| lordtoran | after a possible tipping point where open source becomes the default choice, it will not take very long | Nov 04 23:16 |
| lordtoran | a year? | Nov 04 23:16 |
| cubezzz | well we have an open system, the internet itself | Nov 04 23:18 |
| cubezzz | protocols are not secret, for the most part | Nov 04 23:18 |
| lordtoran | and we see how successful MS is there | Nov 04 23:18 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft can't take over the net, although they did try some tricks | Nov 04 23:18 |
| lordtoran | it's important to keep web technologies open | Nov 04 23:21 |
| cubezzz | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Standard_oil_octopus_loc_color.jpg | Nov 04 23:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Nov 04 23:21 |
| lordtoran | else the net will fragment, turn into something like a TV shopping channel and then die off | Nov 04 23:21 |
| cubezzz | that's what they are like basically | Nov 04 23:21 |
| cubezzz | the net is big time now, it won't die | Nov 04 23:22 |
| cubezzz | over 1 billion users | Nov 04 23:22 |
| cubezzz | in science fiction we had stories about 100 mhz machines and the "wordnet" :) | Nov 04 23:22 |
| cubezzz | er, WorldNet I should say | Nov 04 23:23 |
| lordtoran | ah, and about incredibly small and fast magnetic tapes | Nov 04 23:23 |
| lordtoran | :-) | Nov 04 23:23 |
| lordtoran | like in the 1960s stories | Nov 04 23:23 |
| *ender2070 has quit (Connection timed out) | Nov 04 23:24 | |
| *tessier has quit (kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) | Nov 04 23:28 | |
| cubezzz | ok found the reference I was looking for | Nov 04 23:29 |
| *tessier (n=treed@216.105.40.113) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 23:29 | |
| cubezzz | it's not as old as I thought though | Nov 04 23:29 |
| cubezzz | http://www.streettech.com/bcp/BCPgraf/Media/valentina.htm | Nov 04 23:29 |
| cubezzz | 1984 :) | Nov 04 23:30 |
| *magentar has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Nov 04 23:30 | |
| cubezzz | worth a read | Nov 04 23:31 |
| *schestowitz looks | Nov 04 23:35 | |
| schestowitz | I've just posted http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/04/red-hat-kvm-rhel/ | Nov 04 23:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Links 04/11/2009: Red Hats KVM Punch | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 175.82 KB | Nov 04 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Took an hour and a half | Nov 04 23:35 |
| *DaemonFC (i=Ryan@c-69-245-242-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 23:39 | |
| cubezzz | schools are so important | Nov 04 23:41 |
| cubezzz | I had to use cards in my first programming class | Nov 04 23:41 |
| cubezzz | this was 1980 | Nov 04 23:41 |
| cubezzz | no computers in the school, only at the board | Nov 04 23:42 |
| cubezzz | the year after that we got Commodore PETs | Nov 04 23:42 |
| cubezzz | so no Microsoft monopoly in those days :) | Nov 04 23:42 |
| *amarsh04_ (n=amarsh04@ppp118-210-83-135.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 23:48 | |
| cubezzz | "Eric Raymond: The half-life of monopolies is about 12 years" | Nov 04 23:48 |
| cubezzz | so Microsoft became a Monopoly... people can argue the exact year, somewhere between 1992 and 1995 | Nov 04 23:49 |
| cubezzz | in the win 3.1 to win95 era | Nov 04 23:49 |
| cubezzz | if we assume Microsoft became a monopoly in 1995 then 12 years later is 2007 | Nov 04 23:50 |
| *ender2080 (n=lalala@bas3-toronto63-1088756701.dsl.bell.ca) has left #boycottnovell | Nov 04 23:51 | |
| *ender2070 (n=lalala@bas3-toronto63-1088756701.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 23:51 | |
| ender2070 | thats annoying | Nov 04 23:51 |
| cubezzz | Bell is annoying :) | Nov 04 23:52 |
| cubezzz | I sympathize | Nov 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Duopoly | Nov 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | CA telecoms | Nov 04 23:52 |
| cubezzz | yes | Nov 04 23:52 |
| ender2070 | yeah it's either bell or rogers here | Nov 04 23:53 |
| schestowitz | Pretence of competition | Nov 04 23:53 |
| ender2070 | i hate rogers more than bell | Nov 04 23:53 |
| cubezzz | well there is Satellite :) | Nov 04 23:53 |
| schestowitz | It takes two to run each other's back (no need for 3) | Nov 04 23:53 |
| cubezzz | strictly speaking | Nov 04 23:53 |
| schestowitz | /sun/rub/ | Nov 04 23:53 |
| cubezzz | there is NCF and also Toronto Freenet sells broadband | Nov 04 23:53 |
| cubezzz | but they don't market it much | Nov 04 23:54 |
| cubezzz | BeOS makes it's last release in Nov. 2001, sues Microsoft i 2002 | Nov 04 23:55 |
| cubezzz | in | Nov 04 23:55 |
| *wallc (i=62a521f3@gateway/web/freenode/x-cc017a7e9840faa5) has joined #boycottnovell | Nov 04 23:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Ready for the floor. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/18242.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/532074.html | Nov 04 23:58 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva | Ready for the floor. .::. Size~: 27.77 KB | Nov 04 23:58 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva: Ready for the floor. .::. Size~: 18.81 KB | Nov 04 23:58 |
| cubezzz | one email system, one www system | Nov 04 23:58 |
| cubezzz | many IM systems | Nov 04 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
